3 BLOWN RS3 ENGINES! WHY?
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In this video we take 3 blown RS3's, bring them back to their former glory and explain along the way the common reasons that lead these engines to blow and debunk some common myths.
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Just remove the songs so we can hear you properly
Thank you for the feedback, what do you think of the production quality on our latest video, would be good to get some feedback if we’re heading in the right direction!
@@InfinitPerformance how much is your full stage 2 package for the rs3 8v pre and post fl mate?
Video is good I agree about loosing the songs thoughh
@@InfinitPerformance video quality is amazing, overal the audio is good but yea the talking isn’t always as clear
@@InfinitPerformanceyou need to get some mics
Ive been building cosworth race engines and others for 30 years,its good to see young profetionals doing good work and explaining the teck stuff,brilliant ,keep Up the good work
Thank you for the kind words 💙
A pleasure to see no bullshit people in the business,a rare sight👍👏👏
@@diegodecasasmora2838 it is a rare sight indeed. This industry is all smoke and mirrors!
Im living in Spain,but when i go to UK ill pop round 👍
Seems a competent operator. Good stuff. Does ambient temperature during the tune impact the map? Or does the ECU compensate this?
When the ecu starts pulling timing under high boost loads bye bye engine no matter how good internals you have. Its easy to make power with modern engines its keeping them together is the art
Correct. The safeties that have been put into place by Audi on the stock ECU are not enough to save the engine when things go wrong on a tuned engine. This is why we inject additional custom code onto the stock ECU for more safeties. We prefer this approach as we are looking for long term reliable solutions opposed to dulling the knock sensors to make power which is common practice on this platform.
Great video. The importance of getting the right people to look at your engine when things aren't right.
Thank you!!
First video I’ve watched of you guys and I must say I’m really impressed. The knowledge you guys have is evident and your no bullshit approach is definitely a rare thing. Subbed!
Really reassuring to see people who know what they are going on about and able to articulate it.
🙏🏽
My basic rules to help protect my flex-fuel tuned RS3 from mechanical failures.
1. Add RON booster or E85 to each tank to prevent knock/detonation.
2. Have a tune which isn't pushing the car to its limits and has safeties.
3. Regularly datalog the car where possible/practical to do so.
4. Perform regular services, look for signs of failure and fix before it breaks.
5. Have some mechanical sympathy, don't beat up on it if not datalogged.
Listen to this man! 👌🏽
This is the biggest thing, some of the these people tuning cars. Do nothing but beat on them and expect a warranty style Life. Logging the car is key, warming it up properly as well.
We all
Love our tuned fast cars but we don’t have to drive it like a loon 24/7.
You forgot point .6: Replace it with an S58. A BMW, S58.
@@uslaserguideddemocracyseed1039And have the crank hub spin and grenade the whole engine?!? By the way, did they fix that on the s58 compared to s55?
@@uslaserguideddemocracyseed1039 BMWTARD DETECTED... Lol you never dissapoint us.
Really appreciate this rs3 specific knowledge, keep it coming!
More to come!
You absolutely know what youre talking about through experience and not because you read it on internet. Subscribed.
Thank you for the kind words!
Great diagnosis skills, intelligence and logic built up from experience!
Clearly explained with examples too. I would take my car here given the depth of knowledge this guy shows. Really good to see.
Very knowledgeable mechanic/tunner . Most tunner dont even pass you a quarter of information.
Well done, thats how you get business
Thank you! 👍
Really good video mate, very insightful on what can easily go wrong with these daza motors.
Thank you 🙏🏽
I can't help but watch content like this and just think keep your car stock. It's not worth the risk. I have an F82 M4 and have been tempted, but it's not worth the risk. The is a reason why the manufacturers set the power to what they set it to. For reliability so these cars last 100,000+ miles. Much better just getting a faster car
thats 100k miles WITH environmental bullshit if u tune out that crap you get more longevity
Spot on, plus you keep your 10 year/100k warranty. In my case not yours.
Love the way you explained everything... I learned alot...
Thank you!
One of the best videos on RS3 engineering I have seen
Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
Amazing work! You guys are on point!
really informative video guys, top work!
Thanks a ton!
Thanks for the great info. You have a new subscriber 👍
Worked on a few RS3’s myself and always tell customers not to go for the cheapest tunes they can find. Can’t understand how you can spend so much money on a car and skimp in the tune / supporting mods.
Ones I worked on had:
•Unitronic stage 1 / 2 ECU map - 93 octane. Was on the 95 octane map if they were running ethanol (Paired with a P3 gauge to monitor)
•Unitronic TCU map
•Unitronic carbon intake and elbow
•Unitronic Intercooler
• Downpipe with decat
Paired with Motul 8100 X-Clean+ oil and OEM filter
Not saying Unitronic is the best / only go with them etc. Just delt with them and they have “safe tunes” Not dyno happy tuners chasing numbers with huge torque spikes.
Hell, my girlfriend has a RSQ3 and that’s staying stock while it still has warranty 😂
Thank you for the kind words! As I said, maintenance is key. If you are choosing to tune your engine you are responsible to stay ontop of it. If you don’t have our safeties, over service your car. Datalog it regularly. Service intervals should be halved. If you are running E85, I would advise injector servicing every 20k miles. E85 is tough on injectors.
Another thing that is also happening in the uk is engine failure due to cars fitted with mileage tampering devices, oil quality degrading far past its lifespan and causing a condition known as LSPI.
Very knowledgeable guys !!!! great content
Thank you!
Probably the best advice u can get for an rs3 owner. I would be nervous if I had 1 n this garage never tuned it
Don’t be nervous, pick a solid tuner that has safeties or datalog it regularly and stay ontop of the maintenance!
Final explanation is top tier
Thank you!
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it. Stay tuned for the new video!
you are a genius mate .... could listen to you all day .... Luckily my S3 8p is running fine as far as I can gather ... peace
3 blown engines & your asking why. I can only assume whoever is tuning them has no clue what they are doing. If it had of been left stock it would of still been running perfectly, that i guarantee. It always blows my mind all of these people "chipping" all of these types of vehicles with not a clue what they are doing. The fact is you have to be a very talented driver or have alot of motorsport mileage under your belt to drive one of these stock vehicles to its maximum potential, never mind a 500hp one. 99% of drivers do not fit into the "talented" category, so therefore are wasting there time & money in modifying there car. leave it stock, you will go faster for longer, that i guarantee.
Word of advice, keep it stock and enjoy the ride, simple.
And save yourself a fortune!!
Great video and very informative. I have a 2018 TTRS which is stock but looking at tuning but I track my car every month. Is it possible your safety features would work even though I am tracking the car regularly? Thanks 👍🙏
Yes they would, if at any time the car is unhappy it will automatically switch to a safe map and flash the EML to notify you :)
I don’t know what camera/lens and audio you guys are using but dam this looks like watching a documentary episode! Top quality
Just cut the background songs when talking so it’s easier to hear what your saying!
Am into camera and cars so this just hits the spot!!
tuned by unitronic, after market injectors and all the bells and whistles. i beat it day in and day out and the most i had to do is replace injector gaskets or seals, and had bad luck with a bevel box. should i be worried in the future for sudden engine failure?
Brilliant video currently have mk7R stage 2 Rtech brilliant car but been looking at a daza FL 8v rs3 that’s been tuned stage one by another well known audi vag tuner company can you add your protection onto the current tune or is it full new remap by yourselves thanks in advance
We do not alter anybody else’s calibrations. It would be a full new engine and gearbox tune by Infinit Performance to add safety algorithms to your ECU.
Awesome vid bro very informative
Thank you very much!
Top video bro looking forward to future content
Thank you, look forward to making more content!
Is this also an issue on the earlier engines like in the mk2 TTRS? Thinking of getting one soon at stage 2
The knock control system on the MK2 TTRS is not as weak, nor does the stock turbo make enough power that it overcomes the allowable peak cylinder pressure limits on that engine. What I would do though is have the injectors serviced, they are extremely common for injectors being stuck open/closed which causes the cylinder to go lean!
Impressive knowledge on show, congrats on the video. Used to have an 8P RS3, Revo Stage 1 - 400 bhp was nice. Fantastic car, sadly missed but glad to have been there.
Curious about the rolling road at the end, the rear o/s and front n/s wheels seemed to have minor flutter through the rev range. Probably nothing bit thought I'd mention.
Thanks! 👍 Our rolling road is electronically linked front to rear so this is why you may see some variations between the two axles.
Very interesting, seems like its best to keep them stock or have a safety map.
Yes I agree. Even stock cars have failed however, these are generally cars that haven’t been maintained though.
Great vid, just came across your channel.
Mad! I'm an old boy and Audi were known as reliable motors back in the day.
Sounds like you got this sorted with your engine safety program
Thank you very much for the kind words, they are still reliable, in stock form 😁 we are now reaching a time where turbos are far too capable in stock form and they can easily exceed the strength limitations of the engine itself!
Turbo technology has come a long long way, these faster spooling setups are risky business! I bet if this engine was using a turbo that had a slower spool we wouldn’t see half the issues we are seeing with them at the moment due to bad tuning.
@@InfinitPerformance and this means... a revised engine character or tourqe courve help lot..or solve the issues.
Back in the day it was about 20 plus years
@@commantrosexetlos4700 yeh that's back in the day 😜
Great video and production quality! Love how the camera focuses on the small details like the rocker and injector seal. The music is fine for time lapse and non dialogue scenes but when talking it'd be better without. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much! Sorry about the music, we're new here. What did you think of our latest video? Are we headed in the right direction?
@@InfinitPerformance Yes, you are headed in the right direction because you are giving helpful tech info. I agree with CRZ 13 on the music. It is distracting when in the background, in fact, it's even worse in the other spots due to horror of that type of music. Try some nice Metallica, AC/DC, Ozzy etc 😀🤟!!
So, if i am understanding you correctly do many ECU remaps do away with the stock engines management ability to put the vehicle into "limp mode" upon detection of misfires, fuel issues etc ??
RS3 is one of my dream car, I plan to grab one of these once i got rid of my old M series and GTI. I have survey through the local workshops, and yes many of them had blown engine even on stock form. :'(
Well, now you know you need a tune which has safeties built into it :)
@@InfinitPerformancewhat are safeties?
Love that Light Blue RS3 - beautiful.
Agreed!
Do you know if the 2014 Golf R also has these injector problems?
Thanks in advance
Pre facelift engines don't make anywhere near as as much power in stock form as the facelift engines, the material of the block is not relevant at these power levels. The material of the block only becomes a weakness when you re over 1200hp.
Think I'll be coming to see you boys when my 8y is unlocked. Great video
I think our next video will be about the 8Y 😉
Won't be unlocked
Great video. Not an Audi, but I've got an M140i and after watching this video I can safely say I have no plans of ever mapping it. Seems a daft to risk when it can ruin your engine so easily. It's not like these cars fall out of christmas crackers is it. Also +340hp in a hatchback is already silly power for public roads when you think about it!
The problem is pushing the engine to its limits, this is where you start to walk the line
@@medicineman7461What do you think the limit is on this motor? While I don't drive an Audi with this engine management tech, I've own many 2nd and 3rd Gen 5cyl putting out upwards of 650hp and never had an engine failure.
B58s map so easily and make great power. Plenty are running 6-800 on stock everything except inj, turbo, fp. Its a monster. I had one :)
Stage 1 map on these should be fine ( hate calling them stage but it's what most know) The main issue is intake temps more than anything so popping on a upgraded FMIC is a good shout also though stage 1 doesn't really require hardware mods. Also a TCU tune is a good idea so it's more inline with the uprated torque the engine is producing.
But I think beyond that is when you could be pushing the engine and hardware more towards it's limits. I've seen people bolt on turbos and be fine running 600+BHP. So it also comes down to mechanical sympathy. Don't floor the car while it's still not warmed up fully and do regular oil changes and servicing.
Audi seem to recommend oil changes every couple years but I rather do once within a year atleast. Depends on the miles done as if i did 7k miles then oil change.
Well this definitely makes me anxious about my rs3 😂 already replaced the failed transfer box at 43k miles… and I haven’t even mapped it yet! 😢 really helpful info. Might have to pay you a visit soon 😇
Remember, maintenance is key. That transfer box is a sealed for life unit on RS3’s up till 2020. But on the RS3 8Y and RSQ3 2020+ which use the same transfer boxes they are a service every 20k item.
@@InfinitPerformance absolutely I agree!! I have a 2017 saloon so a sealed case. Maybe it’s been launched too much 😬
Is it possible to know how many times an RS3 has been launched???
great video mate do you find any issues with ST's ...ive just bought a puma ST and its got 12,000 on the clock
Don’t have any experience with this platform, sorry!
Slms, im in SA does mrc etc have good safety measures built in?
Lovely video
Hi infinit, do you guys have any US support or recommendations for US based tuners?
What brand x beam rods do you use for your stage 1 builds????
We have rods for this engine manufactured for us to our specifications, Infinit Performance connecting rods. Please drop us an email if this is something you are interested in purchasing.
Sorry for the late comment. Based in your experience is the TTE700 a safe turbo with stock internals?
How much for ECU/TCU tune Stage2 or 3?
Are you able to remote tune/street tune? I live in the USA.
The only fuels I have available are 91acn which is the minimum fuel I can run. As well as E85 year round. How would multi-map run on my RS3? Would we tune for 91acn,E30,E60???
In 2 more months my RS3 will be rebuilt. I’m building Stage1 motor build similar to what your shop offers. Seeing that you know what your doing with these engines. I’m seriously considering switching to Gt-flasher. Lmk. Thank You.
Yes we can set your car up remotely, drop me an email aoon@infinitperformance.co.uk
Thats why i still love my 1.8T engine...
I have a 2019 RS3 with 50k miles I just bought. I have been wanting this car for a very very long time. I just purchased the car 3 days ago and had it checked out by a performance shop that checked everything including compression which was good. All they said was there was a very little bit of oil on the spark plugs and a small oil leak in the back but nothing major. So I bought it. It is an IMS710hs RS3 with a UNI ECU /TCU non built motor tune currently on E85. It runs great! loud and fun, I don't push it too hard. I did however just watch your video. Especially just now purchasing this and I am not made of money. I wanted to ask how I can keep this car running and safe? What do I need to do for someone not just made of money? I want to have this car running strong for a long time. How can I protect the engine. I am in Miami, so I can't obviously come to you guys. Thanks so much for your time
Very ballsy. Any e85 tuned rs3 even on stock turbo are damn near the limits on stock motor. Everytime you do a pull roll into it and don’t go WOT until 3500-4000 rpm’s but I definitely recommend building that motor up with that bigger turbo.
Great video! As others have said id probably drop the music volume about -10db and use something instrumental
Thanks for the tip! What do you think about our newer videos? We have been working on our production quality!
@@InfinitPerformance sure thing, looking good. Very glad to see a shop cover details about the RS3 platform!
RS 3 details indeed! Certainly appreciated here in Virginia USA!
Have you heard of any s4’s with rocker arm failure? Have seen a few videos regarding this with stock cars and worried that this will happen to mine.
Brother looks tired of all the rs3s lmao. Great vid
Brilliant use of tech/ idea, long term whos going to care about a few diagnostic sessions and minor parts replacement if it saves that large lump sum bill for an engine rebuild. Especially if you have the money to run an RS
Exactly! Maintenance on these cars goes a long long way.
The first RS3 with the misfiring kind of scared me a bit because last year my RS3 (also a daza running revo stg 2) had quite a bit of a misfiring episode from a cold start. The engine management light came on and it through up some messages on the dash and said to take it to a dealer. I got it booked in with the local diagnostics man for the next day, next day i started it up it was fine but the messages and EML were still there. I got it plugged in with the print out the main things standing out were P030000 random/multiple misfire detected, P030400 cyl 4 misfire detected & P130A00 hide cylinder passive. The all the faults were cleared, I went for a spirited drive and then it was plugged back in and all was clear. What's bugging me is sometimes when I start the car it can be a bit lumpy/misfiring for a few seconds even when it's not a cold start. I haven't got a clue why it does it.
Thats the classic injector dripping overnight which ends up sticking one day and boom..
Sometimes its carbon blocking the tiny holes on the injector or the seal has gone.
What i always do in this scenario is just swap that injector for a new one.
Good luck
@@davidobutt thanks for the info. Saw a video last night of an S3 completely different engine but the similar symptoms which turned out to be the cam position sensor(s)
@@samspencer922 yea could be that
Also sometimes depending on oil quality the vvt oil control valve can stick causing similar issues but that usually happens when close to 100,000 miles.
What ive found with almost all vag engines since 2000 is the injectors 95% of the time is the cause.
Direct injection is a nightmare lol
@@davidobutt Gonna get it looked at asap because it's bugging me now. It's odd because like I said it doesn't do it all the time. But yeah better safe than sorry, it'd about break me if the engine died lol.
Gained a follower! And deffo be coming to you guys for a rs3 map
Thank you very much. We look forward to welcoming you!
Do you guys offer your saftie software for people in the USA? I have a stock tune 8V, but has a 4” intake and catback
Yes we do! Please get in touch to see what we can do for you.
Do you replace the block, or are the cylinder walls salvageable?
We can sleeve the block to save it!
Hi, my daza engine isnt running brillant smooth, especially after few WOT. It should run like that? Its stock.
There is no error codes.
I would advise starting with fresh coil packs and spark plugs from audi directly :)
Well after watching this you've certainly put me off getting a RS3 🫣 cracking video I'm impressed with your knowledge 👌
Glad we could help! As long as you look after the car you will be fine 🤝🏽
Great video mate
Thanks 👍
Hello guys, which camera you use?
We are using a Sony A7 III 😊
I was at a garage in cardiff at the weekend and one of these grey rs3 came in with a blown gearbox and engine too that’s mad
Well, if they need someone solid to work on it you know who to call 😎
My rs3 is 2019 one, I removed opf
Can the rs3 handle a pop and bang map? Or the car pieces will break soon?
Do you guys have much experience with bmw b58 tuning ? And are there safties maped in like with the DAZA tuning?
The b58 engine is not as weak as a DAZA when things go wrong
What about the 2019 S3? Anymore reliable? Seen many break down?
We don’t see anywhere near as many issues with the 1.8/2.0 MQB engines.
awesome video. will my mrc stage 2 tune have these engine safety's on board
I am not aware of any tuner on the planet offering additional safety algorithms via custom code for the stock ECU on this platform.
I don’t think so the one in the video was a MRC stage 2
@@daniyalmahmood5463 I wasn’t implying it was I asked if the MRC stage 2 had these safety features
@@geofsti and I’m saying I don’t think they have safety algorithms as the one in the video was done by them and blew up due to bad fuel
Interesting video to watch. Are you finding these engines are failing due to poor mapping which I know is a big thing now days, so many doing cheap flash maps. Or people pushing too hard on a standard engine.
It is a combination of everything to be honest. This engine is not as forgiving as some engines that get away with poor maintenance and bad tuning.
That Dj Khalid skit was epic 😂
Hahah
Quality content👌👌👌
Thank you!
How much is a stage 1 engine rebuild please I’m looking to buy a stage 2 ttrs and now I’m worried what happens if it fails. The car has been tuned by wrench studios so I would presume they know what there doing it terms of protecting the engine.
Hey! Our Stage 1 Engine rebuilds are £6999. We provide a 3 year 40k mile engine warranty on this as long as the car is tuned by us.
I have a map from an independent tuner how would I check or know if there are safety’s in place?
I have felt a few times that the car hesitates Slightly around 5k then goes back to full power. As a result I’m going to replace the plugs as on 34k miles they don’t have a record of change
Datalog it, send me the log and I'll give you my honest unbiased opinion about what I think. aoon@infinitperformance.co.uk
@@InfinitPerformance how is best to log the car?
Quick one regarding your comment that it’s not torque bending these rods bud, are you saying it’s ignition timing ? Or more particularly too much advance ? Would 1.8/1.9 bar at 2800rpm be safe as long as you don’t have too much advance ?
Over 1.5bar is not safe at that low of an rpm. Look into something called LSPI too. When these engines knock, peak cylinder pressure goes through the roof and that’s what bends rods. The stock turbocharger on this engine is an animal, it can build a lot of boost very quickly, 2500-3500rpm is a danger zone where boost should not be over 1.5/1.6bar. We often see 2.1 bar from other tuners in this RPM zone. Everyone thinks it’s okay to ramp in the boost as fast as possible but it is just not safe.
The stock knock control systems on tuned cars are simply not enough to save this engine when things are not running optimally. This is why we commissioned our safety algorithms.
Is this also dangerous for forged rods?
Hey man, I live in Australia and I'm looking at buying a 2016 rs3 with 60,000km's on it. Is there anything which is plug and play, or is there an ECU I can order which has safety features. I'm not too confident I would be able to find a RS3 specialist in Australia as there aren't many around.
You can buy a flashing tool online and do it yourself, or get it done at a shop, either way for about $1000. Going further after that itll need supporting hardware
We can look after you. Drop us a message or give us a call and we’ll get you sorted!
Great video’s do these cars go wrong if left standard
If they are maintained, then no :)
Does this happen on stage one engines, i.e. just a basic remap to increase power 50 or so horsepower?
The blue car in the video is a stage 1 car, software only with no additional modifications.
@@InfinitPerformance damn, was close to pulling the trigger on a stage 1 FL. Will go with plan B and get a slightly older RS6 instead. So happy I came across this video - thank you 👍
Is this issue on the FL cars or the czgb engine too?
The CZGB engines do not make anywhere near as much power as the DAZA/DNWA engine, so we do not see anywhere near as many failures on that engine. You can get away with bad tuning and poor maintenance on that engine. With the daza/dnwa, room for error is zilch.
Aoon love your content pal , outstanding work looking forward to more , you went to school with my wee bro he always said you loved your cars , class ❤
Thank you very much. Means a lot! I look forward to bringing more content to you.
Pre facelift perhaps a better proposition than we all thought given the price difference???
They don’t make anywhere near as much power so that car gets away with poor maintenance and bad tuning. It is very forgiving because it is not as powerful. They will just run 🚀
Interesting watch , just shows that stock is enough for these motors anything more and they’re prone to some gremlins , I’m a B9.5 owner completely standard and performance is just perfect , if these owners want more then they need to look at alternatives
Cars are capable of producing more power, if done correctly. Many factors get neglected and don’t get taken into consideration when adjusting software, therefore causing failure.
Is this only true of tuned RS 2.5TFSI engines? Are standard / stock engines reliable? or is this all RS 2.5 TFSI engines which will have issues? Thanks
There is a reply to this question earlier on in the comments section bro. Just keep on top of your maintenance and you should be fine on a stock engine.
If you keep ontop of maintenance you will not have any issues :)
Good video 👍
Thank you!
What kind of safeguards do you have for injector failures? Are your safeguards any different than the unitronic software safeguards? Keep up the good work with the videos!
We have never lost an engine going lean in our 4 years of tuning them. Our engine safeties pick up failing injectors months before they actually fail and melt a piston.
@@InfinitPerformance that’s amazing. How does the software alert you of an issue with an injector or coil pack for instance? I’m contemplating switching over to your software.
@@davidrojas9633 we have had safety algorithms in place for 3 years now and we have not had a single engine failure since. When an injector, coil pack or spark plug is getting weak it notifies the driver by flashing the EML as the engine starts making heavy knock corrections. It also simultaneously switches you back to a safe map to protect the engine and will not let you switch out until you have the issue addressed. This is why we are able to offer 3 year warranties on every engine we build. We are also looking into offering warranties with our tunes on stock engines for the 8Y platform.
@@davidrojas9633 I’ve linked to a video on how the safety algorithms work in the description section of the video.
@@InfinitPerformance man I wish US tuners had this
Same issue for the opf aswell??
It is worse on the DNWA engine. Is is even more sensitive to knock than the DAZA engine, combined with poor tuning as all the copycat tuners are applying DAZA ignition, fueling and boost settings onto the DNWA when it can’t take it as it is using a different exhaust camshaft.
Is this workshop in the units across from the burnbank petrol station? Hamilton ?
We are based in Cambuslang Glasgow :)
Hi bud. Do you get any of the new 8y engines come in with the same issue as the 8v I have seen in your vids
None yet, but they are new and have not been tuned yet. We are building one for a client next month. Will drop a video on that!
@@InfinitPerformance so it’s mainly when they have been modified? They are supposed to be able to withstand mods up to 1000bhp. I have seen many moded and with no issues. I think you information lacks details. they must have been badly modified. I have not seen issues from Engines tuned by reputable tuners. I would love to know and happy to be schooled, I’m. I expert in this but from what I have seen and what people say. They are bulletproof
Am I wrong
@@InfinitPerformancebro i have just seen another video of yours which shows the rebuilt. Love the contents so thank you for the time you put into them. So if you dont mod the engine is it still likely to fail? Do the new rs3 have engine safety to detect this or is this something only you install
This is good content. I'm guessing you guys are up north somewhere. Would love to work with you
Thank you very much. We are based in Glasgow, Scotland!
@@InfinitPerformance dam that's from south London. I haven't come across a lot of rs3 failing but it's interesting to see what the remaps cause
What about if it logs misfires in 3 cylinders during the high idle cold start but when the revs come back down it runs smooth. New plugs, coil packs, good compression, a bit off with the leakdown
Good to see another scottish garage showcasing their skills! Do you guys do a much work on the B8 S4 platform? Had a look on your site and the S4 page is blank. Was looking to get my pcv system refreshed and a carbon clean, would rather bring it to you guys, especially as you're only an hour away instead of having to drive all the way out to MRC in falkirk. TIA
As with all tuners mate it's always so much easier faster and easier to get to the point if u just give em a bell
@@user-uf6gc1nd7e It was pretty much well out of hours when I posted that. At the moment I don't get access to normal phone lines in the type of work I do and currently email/messaging is my only option.
Damn, feel for u bro, as I work nightshifts, emphasise with u
Our website is currently undergoing maintenance, hence why it was clear.
We can definitely help you out. The Audi B8 S4 is a platform that we have experience with. Give us a call on 0141 641 1222 or email us on info@infinitperformance.co.uk and we can discuss further details about your enquiry 🤝🏽
@@user-uf6gc1nd7e Thanks mate, it's only for security reasons I can't make normal calls during my shift. Be finishing in that sector soon though, I'll give them a buzz next week when back out on civvy street 😃
So is this likely high boost at low rpm "lugging" causing detonation? (For the 1st RS3)
probably, and timing. most EU/UK tuners map these on good fuel and run quite a lot of timing down low and also numb the knock sensors by 15-20% >. So when you have a bad batch of fuel, pop goes the engine.
@@VuBeClanI datalogged the software on every engine that failed over the last 4 years, usually it is a boost spike particularly at 2500/3500rpm or running 18/19 degrees of ignition up-top on 99 octane fuel with the knock sensors muted, wastegate pinned and engine showing no knock corrections is what kills the engine.
@@InfinitPerformance I believe this has happened to me. My rs3 threw a rod on the higway, in a high gear going slowly. I had just filled up so it may have been slightly worse fuel than usual. The car was running a revo stage 2 tune
@Infinit Performance Have you ever thought to sell your safety tuning software to all this companies?
Their egos are too big to acknowledge or address the problem, denial works better
When rebuilding do you use uprated rods
Yes we do :)
Do you have any dealers - near Chester/Liverpool? Thank you
Not at current but we do offer remote tuning via Android or Windows. Give us a call to see what we can do for you.
I heard up untill a 15 plate the engines are made fro different materials is that right? After 15 plate is weaker
Yup they switched to MDF after 2015! 💀🤣
The cepa engine is a stronger engine. The daza not so good.
The CEPA/CZGB engines are using an iron block, the material of the block is nothing to do with the strength of the engine, unless you are at a power level where you are cracking the cylinder walls (1200-1500hp) it is not the reason behind majority of the engine failures on this platform. The aluminium block engines are actually better for high horsepower applications as they have 6 bolt mains for crank support, which the iron block engine does not. The turbochargers are different and the facelift turbochargers are capable of a lot more power and spool way faster than the older engine/turbos ever could. This is one of the reason why we are seeing a lot more failures. With the old engine, you could get away with a lot as it didn’t make enough power on stock turbos in the first place and the spool was slower. So everyone could get away with poor tuning as the setup was a lot more forgiving. With the facelift engines, margin for error is extremely low which is why safeguards had to be put in place to monitor the engine management system constantly and notify the driver.
@@InfinitPerformance so you are telling me they 100% switched to MDF 👀🤣
@@sprocket-YT no they recently switched to cardboard
In the nicest possible way that was not a nice watch😢As the owner of a 2021 TTRS running full stage 2 set up it’s deeply worrying. Had 2 stage 2 RS3’s previous to TTRS but zero issues spread over 4 years of ownership 🙏🏻
Understandable, nobody cares about something like this until it happens to them and it is happening. Every single day. These three cars were tuned by the same company, some ran for a few months some ran for 2 years. The calibrations are not directly to blame but it is the dynamic environments that the cars are in.
@caneytt. What tune are you running?
@@derrickgarcia303 MRC stage 2 with switchable maps
@Infinit Performance Going to be booking in for MRC for stage 2 on my TTRS. as I currently just have a Elite remaps stage 1 that I am slightly dubious about. Who tuned all these blown engines? How do I get these safety put in place on my TTRS?
@@tdg176I am not aware of anyone other than us offering safeties for this platform at this time. I linked a video on our safeties in the description!
This gives me the PTS from my days working as a fitting engineer. "I had [some muppet] here already to look at it and they couldnt figure it out. They did X,Y, and Z... so its definitely not that"
guarantee its its X Y Z and said muppet has created 6 other issues too.
Great professional content and very informative as well. I was planning to buy a 2023 RS3 but… I’m really questioning it’s reliability, i might be switching to a 2023 M2 auto better.
BMW doesn’t burn oil, Audi’s does burn heaps. Few of the people I know have RS3’s they all talk about it because it’s a problem
@Pawelmps um, wrong..my 2023 RS3 doesn't use *any* oil, the B58 by contrast has a legacy of oil consumption
The reliability of the 8Y RS3 on pump gas is excellent
@@fzr1000981 B58 legacy of oil consumption lol. What are you on about. I was in the scene of tuning the B58 since it came out and I almost never hear of oil issues whatsoever. Its a really well build, power capable monster of an engine.
@sheilamorrison1954 tons of plastic parts, plastic oil pump impeller, throw away engine after 150k
Can you develop a patch to add your safety algorithm to MED17.9.8 ecus?
We are not working on that family of ecu at the moment, concentrating our efforts on simos18, mg1 and med17.1 family of ecu’s
@@InfinitPerformance from my experience most bosch tricore even going back to the MED 9 back in the day are very similar. You should branch out a little niche platforms could really use your experience.
@@narcoti they are very similar, but we are not manned enough currently to tackle other platforms 🙏🏽 it’s a lot of work behind the scenes to make this stuff happen, their are hundreds of different software versions etc just on one family of ecu and calibrations / code that need to be developed for each
Not surprised by the blown engine. More surprised by the cam plate and the injectors and the bolts on how that “repair” was done. How sad. Not cheap repairs aside from the engine.
It was in a bad state.