Solas is like that friend we all have in our group that is so bound to their virtues and moral standards that they disagree to everything that seems "unethical" to them, ignoring the logic and practicality of whatever that is
Inquisitor: Solas? -solas slighty approves- Solas: What shall I say,Inquisidor?It's not like I was worshiped as their God or anything like that like freeing them from the fake ones or anything...
@Jake M. He does not, he only lies by omission, everything he said was true, he just doesnt reveal the whole truth. From the village he came from (its a ruin now) and his name (he was solas first) he was honest when asked. The only occasion i remember he was directly lying was when you ask him when did he see such courtly intrigue, however, he does disapprove when you ask (unlike with all the other questions) maybe there is a pattern, solas disapproves when he has to lie for the questions.
"Elvhen such as you." See, by that point we should all just KNOW Solas is what Solas is. Abelas has been rude af to Inquisitor and calls her shem (quick blood), but Solas gets Elvhen treatment.
To me on my first play through this seemed like he was being condescending, as if to say "i don't want to be anywhere with your type I'm better than you" with Solas sticking by and saying "yeah man come on you're welcome". Now it's clear that Abelas recognises Solas one way or another and asks if anyone remains, perhaps the gods or just other ancient elves. And Solas responds with a yes. So did Solas mean Flemeth when he said yes? Are there more of the gods alive? Does Solas keep the Gods within himself to keep them alive but locked away and that's why Flemeth was absorbed into him?
@@kbat There's no pure evidence of the Evanuris being whom Solas was referring to exactly. There could be more sentinels in different places, using similar magic to enter and exit stasis. More than likely, Abelas was asking if there were other ancient elves, but not necessarily the Evanuris. And to that Solas could more confidently affirm. Additionally, given what Solas did, Abelas would likely have much more to say if he knew Solas was Fen'Harel.
Nah, not who he is. We may suspect he's an ancient elf, but that's fine because we've just been told they're around. It's not like being an ancient elf in itself means he would betray you. I'm not even sure Abelas recognized Solas. Another interpretation is of course that Solas recruits him as his agent if he lives.
@@Valyrianalien Agreed. If he truly recognize the dread wolf, he would probably have a more noticeable reaction or something, it's not his first time to wake up and defend the well, after all. He probably just recognize him as an ancient elve or something since that's what elvhan means. I guess Abelas could be hiding his emotions if he realized what the dread wolf was doing, but considering Solas' plan went awry in the first place, it's quite unlikely. My opinion anyway.
I dont think abelas recognized solas as a "god" and former lover of their god mythal. Makes no sense to show so little reaction when he is in front of a god...
(Spoilers) He is only "destroying the world" to save the Elvish. to save his people, so I believe, yes, he would approve of Sentinels helping the Elvish teach them the old ways, especially ones those dedicated to his "dearest friend" Mythal. Plus they know the REAL history of the Elvish, the real story of Fen'Harel, so yes, this is the only time Solas would approve you asking another of the Elvish to help. That and asking Flemeth (Mythal) to help the Elvish as well. :)
+MinecraftPro15 Solas would tear down the Veil which will certainly release the Evanuris who I should remind you, weaponized the Blight. Why else would the Black City would have the Blight? The Blight is not from the Fade since it can only effect the living. Solas says he has plans for getting rid of the Evanuria. But from he's dialogue with Varric on Lyrium, Solas was disappointed that the Dwarves have not yet study Lyrium for academic purposes. Whatever he's plan are, he will not be able to neutralize Red Lyrium or Blight Magic as Vivienne calls it. They all can't conveniently slayable dragons like Corypheus.
oodsong Solas respects the ideal your character offers at that point. He has a much more extreme solution to improving the world, but you making that suggestion shows that you, too, wish to truly improve things. Don't forget that Solas passionately hates the duty he feels bound to fulfill.
Well he is prepared to tell lavellan that what her people believe in is a lie, wanting to rid her of her valleslin. Despite already wanting to destroy the world and everyone in it, even the one he loves.
Minadori123 At first I didn't know how Abelas knew about Solas being the Dread Wolf. But after what Solas said about how it's like walking around in a world full of tranquil for him (An ancient elf) it makes more sense
Which doesn't really make any sense because shemlen simply means human; shem is the slang derogatory version. Then again, Abelas didn't refer to a dwarven Inquisitor as durgen’len. For a quest about elves, it really seemed to ignore the fact that you were elven at times (the 'Who is Mythal' is just ridiculous).
The most tragic part of Morrigan killing Abelas is that the reason Morrigan cares about preserving the magic of the past is because that's how Flemeth/Mythal raised her. She said so herself. Both of them were trying to act out the will of Mythal. If Mythal had simply shown up and told them to give it to her they might well have done so. To me that makes this so much sadder.
Mythal knows Morrigan is under her service even after she was freed she is naive and loyal that her doom to always trust ad be betrayed Flemeths/Mythal words
Aaaaah. Seeing her transform into a bird makes me wish so badly Morrigan could have been playable, or that Shapeshifter becomes playable again in the next game. It's such a cool idea, but it was so awful in Origins... I think they can do better now.
CreativeUsernameEh Even worse is that if Morrigan drinks from the well, she turns into a dragon for the final fight. While if you drink from the well, even if you are a Mage, you just get to have dragon to fight for you in the final fight. I wanna be a dragon, damn it
@@TheBieber27 . Morrigan is able to change into a Dragon because she already posses de Shapeshifting magic taught by Flemeth herself. Drinking from the well just let us say opens that form for her.
@@SeventhheavenDK Flemeth lol she is their elven Godess not just a witch lol she wanted Morrigan as a vessel but she changed her mind and freed her from her duty
The condescension, the whole "you are not our people" idk Abelas you sure sound like a Dalish, i can already picture a Dalish elf saying the same thing to a city elf. Actually I don't need to picture it, i've seen it.
@@notoriousbig3k wrong, they are the same kind just like human kind covers every human in this world, but they are not the same people, orlesians and ferelden people are not the same people because of their diverse cultures and different lineages, but they are the same kind because they are humans.
@@notoriousbig3kThis isn’t correct. There are 3 types of elves: *City elves= not that in touch with their heritage. Some still care about it but many don’t anymore, and they engage more with human culture. *Dalish= they try to stay in touch with their heritage, and they believe they do, but they have the wrong idea. The valaslin for example are not markings used to honour their gods, they were actually used by the evil elven gods (evanuris) to mark their slaves. Dalish saw these markings in ancient images and got the wrong idea. The dalish also don’t really have any actual direct knowledge of the ancient elves, and mostly try to blindly worship and follow the old ways. They are honourable, but they’re misinformed. It’s not their fault that they have no real knowledge of the ancient elves *Ancient elves= Solas, Mythal, and Abelas and the Sentinels are this type. They are actual remnants of the true ancient elves and they know the truth (maybe the Sentinels don’t fully know, since they are just descendants, but Solas/Fen’harel and Flemeth/Mythal definitely know the actual truth). They are different than Dalish (hence why Abelas insults a dalish inquisitor) since as I’ve said the dalish have a misinformed/warped view on the ancient elves and the gods
Yeah, yet another character making anti-Dalish remarks to Lavellan. It would've been nice if the entire game didn't crap on the elves while circle jerking the Chantry.
MinecraftPro15 They're not slave markings to them. This isn't Tevinter that laid its slavery out for all to hate/grovel at. The elven gods were truly worshiped and it was, to many of them (a mix at times, and obviously there was discontent), proper to be marked. From what I gather.
Malcolm Swoboda Thats what the elvish think. Yes, the elvish gods were worshipped, but the markings were for slaves. Ask Solas. He told us. And destroyed all our dreams.
MÓNICA ANDRADE You're missing my point. From any lore implications, the elven gods were part of triumphing over the titans. They grew in power and prominence and were indeed worshipped. Yes it was almost certainly an esteemed thing to receive markings. What it *turned into*, encouraging Solas' revolutionary views, is another matter. We know Solas has bias like anyone else. Doesn't mean he's necessarily 'wrong', just that he views things from his own perspective, wide as that perspective supposes to be. But there's also more to it, and I don't think its all as clear as Solas puts it. But it sure can put us on an anti-elven standpoint going into the next game (hmmmm). What is almost certain is that by the time of Solas' revolution and disastrous actions, its at least the case that things had degraded so much that vallaslin WERE at least effectively 'slave markings' to the warring deities, save for perhaps Mythal's relatively 'mark of respect' hers might have more meant. If the Dalish view it one way and Solas views it another, just don't be surprised when the next narrative explains how it was viewed even another way.
I was a human and saw the value in letting them live, it very well may be necessary to preserving the old and new world in the next game (Solas has friends who can, through combined power, help him handle the Fade, the Evunaris, and other problems that would destroy the world we know). Killing unnecessarily is a tragedy
At least Flemeth/Mythal recognize the modern elves as one of her People, unlike Solas and Abelas. I know Dalish vs City Elf relations tend to be rocky too, but that doesn't excuse Solas and Abelas' shitty treatment towards the modern elves. And what's wrong Solas? Can't speak up without blowing up your cover? And oh Abelas, little you know that ultimately your goddess doesn't even give a shit or two about you.
+Solas Apostate Hobo 4 days till TW3 expansion, then KotFE, then F4, then MEA sometime after that, I also have a million things to read, like A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, The Paladin Caper and so on. All this should help take my mind of it :)
+Francis5795 We will let him go when we are ready! (I am so not ready) *cries* And I do appreciate those vids Fluffy - I watch them to get my daily dose of Solas :)
Did Abelas realize Solas's identity, or did he simply recognise him as an ancient elf? Both have interesting implications. I could honestly see it either way. What do you guys think?
I doubt Abelas knew Solas was Fen’Harel. I think the reaction would have been more extreme. I’m guessing Abelas just knew Solas was an ancient elf in general.
man on my very first playthrough "Elvhen such as you?" comment to Solas totally went over my head.. I took it as as a sarcastic insult when it's so obvious he is actually addressing him differently and realizes he is ancient. Also Solas saying "our shared blood". all these statements are written so well and could be seen as totally revealing but also vague enough not to reveal the truth when you hear it first.... awesome writing. Also never done this, Abelas dying by being stabbed in the back like this breaks my heart.
I must say that I liked Morrigan in Origins, but I actually hated her in Inquisition. She's stuck up and thinks she's the only one who knows things about the elves just because "she's studied them".
It's not that, it's that she thinks she knows *best*. Not just about the elves, but about everything. You do remember what Flemeth says in DA2? "She's a girl who thinks she knows what is what better than I or anyone".
***** Yes, but you mentioned knowledge about Elves while she had a good reason to think she actually knew best. As for other cases, she was like that in Origins, too, it's part of her character, I liked her too but I kepr her out of the party after getting Wynne to prevent approval loss.
According to Solas the mark or the tattoo that Elven have are born out of slavery so why does these Elven guardians wear the markings? Are they slaves to Mythal then?
Blonde Viking yes and no. Solas tells us that Mythal was not like the rest of the Evanuris, that she actually cared for and protected her people/subjects. So if we believe Solas then I don’t believe any of Mythal’s people were actually slaves? But maybe they were, honestly who knows it’s all speculation right now
Maybe they also used the tattoo to show which gods they served- not slavery, just worship. That way, if their paths crossed with others, they would know that they served a god. It makes more sense in my mind than it does while I'm explaining it, where the tattoo would show their devotion and dedication to Mythal, as they would permanently mark their faces with her specific face tattoo. I wouldn't take it as a complete sign of slavery as Solas had stated, because he was trying to prove how awful the mark was so he could remove it off the inquisitor, so I think that it was more for servants, priests or sentinels, and finally slaves.
@@morganmarks5286 thats what Solas means they were slaves each Tattoo depicts a god each tattoo is a brand to know who is whoms property too even Flemeth said that Mythal did enslaved her people but she gived them always to choose if they live or die for her ....
Bc if the elves overwhelm and kill the inquisitor then there's no other way to seal the rifts, just like Solas gets pissed if you decide to kill his spirit friend turned demon but still helps you fight it anyways, even if the entire inquisition hates your guts they don't have much choice other than to help keep you alive.
So, no one's gonna talk about the 4 staff wielders including Morrigan? You should also bring Vivienne with you and make it actually a staff party. Quite literally
Svarah Sun-Hair no you can’t. You can craft him superb enchanter armor or something which will give him the wolf pelt over his robes, but the ancient elvhen golden armor + wolf pelt can only be given to him by mods
I think it was confirmed to be a mistake, but they justified it after the fact by saying it just refers to those who live quick lives, so technically, even a modern elf who lives and dies in less than 100 years would be a "shemlen".
i was hoping the outcome will different, like if you kill abelas morrigan will drink it anyway, but if you allied, you can choose who will drink or the other way around. Because both choices end the same, so why would i killed them if its only makes my party dissaprove? of course i will choose to allied with them if the end is no different so my party won't disapprove as much as if i killed them
I didn't know Abelas could die... I always do the little puzzle, I like it :) But it should have had consequences for losing time there. Killing Sentinels is just so cruel :/
You're not really losing time tho, it takes time to go through the area after jumping as well. You are losing time of course if you do the rituals and then jump to get the loot (and codexes), but it's very hard to find a non-meta reason for that anyway. From the Inq's point of view, the rituals will let them bypass a potentially dangerous area. It's also reasonable to assume that the temple could have more magical defenses (like the one that roasted Cory at the gate), and the rituals could make it so they don't trigger. On the other hand, if you jump after Samson/Calpernia, they'll probably trigger any traps for you and you get to stay on their tail, so that's a valid decision too.
@@Valyrianalien Mhhh I'm not sure about the time thing. For me, jumping into the hole was like the 10 minutes option and doing the rituals like the 30 minutes option. Companions clearly said you will losing more time doing them while Inky soldiers are dying outside. Also, the enemies are supposed to perhaps reach the well during that time. That what my message was about. But in reality, you can go slow, respect the place, having no consequence for your soldiers, having sentinels on your side and still have the well... You can have *everything*. That's what bother me. I totally agree with you about protection and stuff in the temple. Make sense. Plus I love having more lore :D
I didn't took this path nor do I ever intend to but even if I did I still love Morrigan for what she did. I wonder if the dagger she used could've been a gift from her Warden, something to use in case Magic can't be used. In my playthroughs I took the deal and let Abelas go also letting Morrigan drink from the Well, this is an interesting path if I ever play it as an elf, alas, I prefer to be a Human Assassin Rogue in all three games. Thanks for the videos as always great to watch other paths from this game.
Idk, all things considered, killing them might not be so bad. Perhaps it diminishes Solas' forces in DA4? This choice is in the Tapestry in Dragon Age Keep so it mush be somewhat relevant.
Dude, I ignored this guy so hard, that when the final cutscene played and Flemeth was talking to him and call him the dread wolf, I thought my game broke and was playing other ending or some shit!
I believe its a dlc armor from Trespasser. After this mission, once you complete a war table operation for researching the well of sorrows it gives it as a reward.
The Inquisitor's armour! I must know what it is! And the crafting materials used to make that exact set (if you remember)! That purple armour sleeve is just calling out to me. (Sorry for asking tho lmao you've probably gotten the question a thousand times)
+fooboo24lala Here's how to get the armor: th-cam.com/video/jyUxNAhvjPM/w-d-xo.html As for mats, it's Dales Loden Wool, Avvar Cotton and Dragon Scales if I remember right.
Yup, but Solas is definitely going to use the well somehow to his benefit. Considering he's consumed Mythal, it's why I'm willing to sacrifice my inquisitor, to ensure morrigan and my wardens son is safe. Its also sort of poetic as my inky romanced Solas in a sense.
ok I have to ask, Fluffy what is the mage set/ robe you are wearing? I've seen it so many times now and yet i have yet to make it/ get it's schematic. thanks :)
What armor is Solas using?? It's the one he's wearing on Tresspasser! I'd love to craft it for him on my playthrough, looks sick! Is that a mod or an armor I haven't obtained yet?
I've let Morrigan drink from the Well in my former playthroughs... but now that I see just how greedy she is and that she'd even stab Abelas, I don’t think I can let this particular decision be final. This just calls for another playthrough.
@@morganguffey7534 Let's put it this way. If you play Trespasser, it locks you out of the rest of the game. It's a Point of No Return sort of thing. You have to play Trespasser absolutely last: after the main game, after The Descent and after Jaws of Hakkon. You cannot even load up the game and return to Skyhold after completing Trespasser. The armor is from a Nexus mod.
Okay... so Solas is thought to have killed Mythal, yeh? So tbqh I can understand why he doesn’t say, “hey I’m the Dread wolf, how y’all doing?” But if he knows that Flemeth is Mythal, and probably knows that Morrgain is Flemeth, and by proxy Mythal’s kid, why doesn’t he use that? Like... “yo... we got the daughter of Mythal right here... uh... let us through?” That would make things easier on literally everyone, also it’s just the right amount of manipulative that I think Solas would pull that shit.
xMIIKOxMIIKOxXD When you acquire it during the trespasser dlc synchronise with the golden nug. Start a new playtrough and synchronise once again at haven and all the schematics will be carried over from the previous playtrough that you used the golden nug on.
How exactly did each servant reach the end of their years when the elves were immortal before the Veil? I'm so confused. Doesn't this contradict the rest of the lore??
Shut up Solas, the Inquisitor needs exp.
Date Masamune A year later, and still makes me laugh.
Solas is like that friend we all have in our group that is so bound to their virtues and moral standards that they disagree to everything that seems "unethical" to them, ignoring the logic and practicality of whatever that is
You actually get more by doing the rites :)
@@sekkai_ but you get more from doing the rituals.
LOL IT'S BEEN 4 YEARS AND THIS COMMENT STILL CRACKS ME UP.
Inquisitor: Solas?
-solas slighty approves-
Solas: What shall I say,Inquisidor?It's not like I was worshiped as their God or anything like that like freeing them from the fake ones or anything...
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Solas approves being asked questions. In this case, it's kind of off for the context but it is coded into his approval system.
@Jake M. He does not, he only lies by omission, everything he said was true, he just doesnt reveal the whole truth. From the village he came from (its a ruin now) and his name (he was solas first) he was honest when asked. The only occasion i remember he was directly lying was when you ask him when did he see such courtly intrigue, however, he does disapprove when you ask (unlike with all the other questions) maybe there is a pattern, solas disapproves when he has to lie for the questions.
@@berika0023 he is the The Trickster and he killed Flemmeth at the end of the DLC
notoriousbig3k: he did that in the main story, the dlc is where he betrays you.
00:06 Morrigan: What was this chamber used for...
Solas: Orgies.
Пиер Стоянов gross lol
Morrigan: "Hmmm..."
Of course is this a witcher school or an elven bathhouse
Well... truth be told - Hmm
Sera greatly approves
"Elvhen such as you." See, by that point we should all just KNOW Solas is what Solas is. Abelas has been rude af to Inquisitor and calls her shem (quick blood), but Solas gets Elvhen treatment.
To me on my first play through this seemed like he was being condescending, as if to say "i don't want to be anywhere with your type I'm better than you" with Solas sticking by and saying "yeah man come on you're welcome".
Now it's clear that Abelas recognises Solas one way or another and asks if anyone remains, perhaps the gods or just other ancient elves. And Solas responds with a yes.
So did Solas mean Flemeth when he said yes? Are there more of the gods alive? Does Solas keep the Gods within himself to keep them alive but locked away and that's why Flemeth was absorbed into him?
@@kbat There's no pure evidence of the Evanuris being whom Solas was referring to exactly. There could be more sentinels in different places, using similar magic to enter and exit stasis. More than likely, Abelas was asking if there were other ancient elves, but not necessarily the Evanuris. And to that Solas could more confidently affirm. Additionally, given what Solas did, Abelas would likely have much more to say if he knew Solas was Fen'Harel.
Nah, not who he is. We may suspect he's an ancient elf, but that's fine because we've just been told they're around. It's not like being an ancient elf in itself means he would betray you. I'm not even sure Abelas recognized Solas. Another interpretation is of course that Solas recruits him as his agent if he lives.
@@Valyrianalien Agreed. If he truly recognize the dread wolf, he would probably have a more noticeable reaction or something, it's not his first time to wake up and defend the well, after all. He probably just recognize him as an ancient elve or something since that's what elvhan means.
I guess Abelas could be hiding his emotions if he realized what the dread wolf was doing, but considering Solas' plan went awry in the first place, it's quite unlikely. My opinion anyway.
I dont think abelas recognized solas as a "god" and former lover of their god mythal. Makes no sense to show so little reaction when he is in front of a god...
Funny how Solas approves of telling Abelas "the elves could learn from you," given that his own plan amounts to "tear down the whole world *again*."
(Spoilers) He is only "destroying the world" to save the Elvish. to save his people, so I believe, yes, he would approve of Sentinels helping the Elvish teach them the old ways, especially ones those dedicated to his "dearest friend" Mythal. Plus they know the REAL history of the Elvish, the real story of Fen'Harel, so yes, this is the only time Solas would approve you asking another of the Elvish to help. That and asking Flemeth (Mythal) to help the Elvish as well. :)
+MinecraftPro15 Solas would tear down the Veil which will certainly release the Evanuris who I should remind you, weaponized the Blight. Why else would the Black City would have the Blight? The Blight is not from the Fade since it can only effect the living. Solas says he has plans for getting rid of the Evanuria. But from he's dialogue with Varric on Lyrium, Solas was disappointed that the Dwarves have not yet study Lyrium for academic purposes. Whatever he's plan are, he will not be able to neutralize Red Lyrium or Blight Magic as Vivienne calls it. They all can't conveniently slayable dragons like Corypheus.
oodsong Solas respects the ideal your character offers at that point. He has a much more extreme solution to improving the world, but you making that suggestion shows that you, too, wish to truly improve things.
Don't forget that Solas passionately hates the duty he feels bound to fulfill.
Well he is prepared to tell lavellan that what her people believe in is a lie, wanting to rid her of her valleslin. Despite already wanting to destroy the world and everyone in it, even the one he loves.
@@Nyzer_ he also applauds the pursuit of history. Saying the elves could learn from them is something that he would consider important for them.
'The Elvhen such as you' line makes much more sense after Trespasser
+Mike dN before Trespasser it didn't? (realy just curious!)
Minadori123 At first I didn't know how Abelas knew about Solas being the Dread Wolf.
But after what Solas said about how it's like walking around in a world full of tranquil for him (An ancient elf) it makes more sense
Mike dN interesting~.. thank you!
+Mike dN Actually this line is what made me raise my eyebrows and start wondering about Solas and what he's not telling us when i first played DA:I :)
Mike ` so true! It stood out to me after playing trespasser as well!!
5:48 A dalish being called "shemlen"......ouch
+Cavik96 Gonna need a lot of ice for that burn. :P
;)
It's accurate, though. The modern elves have short life spans just like humans.
Luiz Antonio I know. But that must have hurt anyway.
Which doesn't really make any sense because shemlen simply means human; shem is the slang derogatory version. Then again, Abelas didn't refer to a dwarven Inquisitor as durgen’len. For a quest about elves, it really seemed to ignore the fact that you were elven at times (the 'Who is Mythal' is just ridiculous).
"It is not for you. It is not for any of you."
Inq: *does a cannonball while giving Abelas the bird*
A random Butterfly Cat
I would have loved for that to be an option
Morrigan already gave him the bird in a way
The most tragic part of Morrigan killing Abelas is that the reason Morrigan cares about preserving the magic of the past is because that's how Flemeth/Mythal raised her. She said so herself. Both of them were trying to act out the will of Mythal. If Mythal had simply shown up and told them to give it to her they might well have done so. To me that makes this so much sadder.
Mythal knows Morrigan is under her service even after she was freed she is naive and loyal that her doom to always trust ad be betrayed Flemeths/Mythal words
I don't know how they would react to mythal being carried in a human body
In they end, all of us are played by Flemeth's agenda.
Aaaaah. Seeing her transform into a bird makes me wish so badly Morrigan could have been playable, or that Shapeshifter becomes playable again in the next game. It's such a cool idea, but it was so awful in Origins... I think they can do better now.
CreativeUsernameEh Even worse is that if Morrigan drinks from the well, she turns into a dragon for the final fight. While if you drink from the well, even if you are a Mage, you just get to have dragon to fight for you in the final fight. I wanna be a dragon, damn it
@@TheBieber27 . Morrigan is able to change into a Dragon because she already posses de Shapeshifting magic taught by Flemeth herself.
Drinking from the well just let us say opens that form for her.
@@SeventhheavenDK Flemeth lol she is their elven Godess not just a witch lol she wanted Morrigan as a vessel but she changed her mind and freed her from her duty
@@notoriousbig3k . She hasn't freed from her duty. It is implied that Morrigam one day will accept Flemeth's mantle.
@@SeventhheavenDK but there is no mantle anymore, Mythal soul passed to Fen'Harel
Never let go Fluffy. I need to see every interaction with Solas. You sustain me with your videos. Thank you.
Where has she gone? 😢 It's been years now I am worried.
The condescension, the whole "you are not our people" idk Abelas you sure sound like a Dalish, i can already picture a Dalish elf saying the same thing to a city elf. Actually I don't need to picture it, i've seen it.
all elves are Dalish no matter what they are they are the last of their people lol
@@notoriousbig3k wrong, they are the same kind just like human kind covers every human in this world, but they are not the same people, orlesians and ferelden people are not the same people because of their diverse cultures and different lineages, but they are the same kind because they are humans.
Well, he IS right in that regard, as are Dalish. The three of those are not the same people.
@@notoriousbig3kThis isn’t correct. There are 3 types of elves:
*City elves= not that in touch with their heritage. Some still care about it but many don’t anymore, and they engage more with human culture.
*Dalish= they try to stay in touch with their heritage, and they believe they do, but they have the wrong idea. The valaslin for example are not markings used to honour their gods, they were actually used by the evil elven gods (evanuris) to mark their slaves. Dalish saw these markings in ancient images and got the wrong idea. The dalish also don’t really have any actual direct knowledge of the ancient elves, and mostly try to blindly worship and follow the old ways. They are honourable, but they’re misinformed. It’s not their fault that they have no real knowledge of the ancient elves
*Ancient elves= Solas, Mythal, and Abelas and the Sentinels are this type. They are actual remnants of the true ancient elves and they know the truth (maybe the Sentinels don’t fully know, since they are just descendants, but Solas/Fen’harel and Flemeth/Mythal definitely know the actual truth). They are different than Dalish (hence why Abelas insults a dalish inquisitor) since as I’ve said the dalish have a misinformed/warped view on the ancient elves and the gods
"Shadows wearing Vallaslin? YOU are NOT my people."
You are using Vallaslin too.
+MÓNICA ANDRADE Emphasis on 'Shadows' though. He's saying we don't deserve the markings. They're a positive to him, unlike with Solas' opinion.
Yeah, yet another character making anti-Dalish remarks to Lavellan. It would've been nice if the entire game didn't crap on the elves while circle jerking the Chantry.
MinecraftPro15 They're not slave markings to them. This isn't Tevinter that laid its slavery out for all to hate/grovel at. The elven gods were truly worshiped and it was, to many of them (a mix at times, and obviously there was discontent), proper to be marked.
From what I gather.
Malcolm Swoboda Thats what the elvish think. Yes, the elvish gods were worshipped, but the markings were for slaves. Ask Solas. He told us. And destroyed all our dreams.
MÓNICA ANDRADE You're missing my point. From any lore implications, the elven gods were part of triumphing over the titans. They grew in power and prominence and were indeed worshipped. Yes it was almost certainly an esteemed thing to receive markings. What it *turned into*, encouraging Solas' revolutionary views, is another matter.
We know Solas has bias like anyone else. Doesn't mean he's necessarily 'wrong', just that he views things from his own perspective, wide as that perspective supposes to be. But there's also more to it, and I don't think its all as clear as Solas puts it. But it sure can put us on an anti-elven standpoint going into the next game (hmmmm).
What is almost certain is that by the time of Solas' revolution and disastrous actions, its at least the case that things had degraded so much that vallaslin WERE at least effectively 'slave markings' to the warring deities, save for perhaps Mythal's relatively 'mark of respect' hers might have more meant.
If the Dalish view it one way and Solas views it another, just don't be surprised when the next narrative explains how it was viewed even another way.
now now,Morrigan learned well from HoF. the Murder Knife has claimed another victim.
kingsedra HoF?
SharpNo2Pencil hero of ferelden?
Cool to see this! I was never able to bring myself to fight the ancient elves - it seems... Particularly wrong.
It is. Its unnecessary. I agree with Solas.
Just by being Dalish I couldn't do that. I'm pro elf all the way so I allied with them lol
I was a human and saw the value in letting them live, it very well may be necessary to preserving the old and new world in the next game (Solas has friends who can, through combined power, help him handle the Fade, the Evunaris, and other problems that would destroy the world we know).
Killing unnecessarily is a tragedy
I killed them for Morrigan.
@@mrbust999 i'd kill morrigan for morrigan lol
inky:solas?
solas: what am I to say
You are taken the Solas thing hard I see
At least Flemeth/Mythal recognize the modern elves as one of her People, unlike Solas and Abelas. I know Dalish vs City Elf relations tend to be rocky too, but that doesn't excuse Solas and Abelas' shitty treatment towards the modern elves.
And what's wrong Solas? Can't speak up without blowing up your cover? And oh Abelas, little you know that ultimately your goddess doesn't even give a shit or two about you.
*Intervention* FluffyNinjaLlama, we believe you have a problem... You need let him go...
+Francis5795 This is hopeless :( Favorite love story of all time
+FluffyNinjaLlama ;3; NO, don't ever let him go, Fluffy! *clings* No worries, it's also my favourite tragic love story ever. SOLAMAAANNCCEE!
+FluffyNinjaLlama How will you handle this in the years to come? Next game will take a while :D
+Solas Apostate Hobo 4 days till TW3 expansion, then KotFE, then F4, then MEA sometime after that, I also have a million things to read, like A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, The Paladin Caper and so on. All this should help take my mind of it :)
+Francis5795 We will let him go when we are ready! (I am so not ready) *cries* And I do appreciate those vids Fluffy - I watch them to get my daily dose of Solas :)
Did Abelas realize Solas's identity, or did he simply recognise him as an ancient elf? Both have interesting implications. I could honestly see it either way. What do you guys think?
I doubt Abelas knew Solas was Fen’Harel. I think the reaction would have been more extreme. I’m guessing Abelas just knew Solas was an ancient elf in general.
man on my very first playthrough "Elvhen such as you?" comment to Solas totally went over my head.. I took it as as a sarcastic insult when it's so obvious he is actually addressing him differently and realizes he is ancient. Also Solas saying "our shared blood". all these statements are written so well and could be seen as totally revealing but also vague enough not to reveal the truth when you hear it first.... awesome writing. Also never done this, Abelas dying by being stabbed in the back like this breaks my heart.
When was this said?
Nvm 6:41
1:27 How the hell did I miss THAT he literally just revealed who he was
he revealed nothing and by now the Inquisitor knows Solas lived a long live
You missed it because he didn't...
I must say that I liked Morrigan in Origins, but I actually hated her in Inquisition. She's stuck up and thinks she's the only one who knows things about the elves just because "she's studied them".
To be fair, she had Flemeth's Grimoire to study for 10 years and she had the Eluvians, so she definitely knows more than most Dalish.
yea and considering her mom is literally an elven god, I'd listen to her before anyone else
It's not that, it's that she thinks she knows *best*. Not just about the elves, but about everything. You do remember what Flemeth says in DA2? "She's a girl who thinks she knows what is what better than I or anyone".
***** Yes, but you mentioned knowledge about Elves while she had a good reason to think she actually knew best. As for other cases, she was like that in Origins, too, it's part of her character, I liked her too but I kepr her out of the party after getting Wynne to prevent approval loss.
Aska2468 true :P sorry ^_^
I've played this game like 6 times and I had no idea that Abelas could die! oh my poor soul-didn't see that shite coming
2:34 so who would approve this decision? Sera?
Yes
According to Solas the mark or the tattoo that Elven have are born out of slavery so why does these Elven guardians wear the markings? Are they slaves to Mythal then?
Blonde Viking yas
Blonde Viking yes and no. Solas tells us that Mythal was not like the rest of the Evanuris, that she actually cared for and protected her people/subjects. So if we believe Solas then I don’t believe any of Mythal’s people were actually slaves? But maybe they were, honestly who knows it’s all speculation right now
Maybe they also used the tattoo to show which gods they served- not slavery, just worship. That way, if their paths crossed with others, they would know that they served a god.
It makes more sense in my mind than it does while I'm explaining it, where the tattoo would show their devotion and dedication to Mythal, as they would permanently mark their faces with her specific face tattoo. I wouldn't take it as a complete sign of slavery as Solas had stated, because he was trying to prove how awful the mark was so he could remove it off the inquisitor, so I think that it was more for servants, priests or sentinels, and finally slaves.
they're all suckers...
@@morganmarks5286 thats what Solas means they were slaves
each Tattoo depicts a god each tattoo is a brand to know who is whoms property too
even Flemeth said that Mythal did enslaved her people but she gived them always to choose if they live or die for her ....
"Elvhen such as you?"
*solas sweating*
"Y.... Yes"
I like how solas, Dorian and cole disagree with fighting the elves but didn’t hesitate to jump right in to murdering them with the inquisitor lmao
Bc if the elves overwhelm and kill the inquisitor then there's no other way to seal the rifts, just like Solas gets pissed if you decide to kill his spirit friend turned demon but still helps you fight it anyways, even if the entire inquisition hates your guts they don't have much choice other than to help keep you alive.
I could NEVER do this. It makes me ill just watching it.
Destroying them is so pointless, considering you get the Well anyways.
You don't know that at this point in the game...
And the puzzles are piece of cake, at least for me.
So, no one's gonna talk about the 4 staff wielders including Morrigan? You should also bring Vivienne with you and make it actually a staff party. Quite literally
I will never get over not being able to fucking kill Morrigan in DAI
I hope next game we get; shapeshifter / blood mage / eleven magic (like in DA2).
How come Solas is wearing his Tresspasser amour ?
Svarah Sun-Hair no you can’t. You can craft him superb enchanter armor or something which will give him the wolf pelt over his robes, but the ancient elvhen golden armor + wolf pelt can only be given to him by mods
@@Haley123ful aw
I always wondered why Abelas calls the elven inquisitor a shemlen...she's an elf?
I think it was confirmed to be a mistake, but they justified it after the fact by saying it just refers to those who live quick lives, so technically, even a modern elf who lives and dies in less than 100 years would be a "shemlen".
Shemlen means someone who lives quickened lives. Modern elves age and die at the same rate as humans, so all modern races are shem to an ancient elf.
Charles W yep but also nope because elves still age a little bit more slowly than humans
@@Heartshapedbox81 they live like wut 10 years more ? lol
Mel P An interesting save from them having to say that the game was designed for a human protagonist originally.
i was hoping the outcome will different, like if you kill abelas morrigan will drink it anyway, but if you allied, you can choose who will drink or the other way around. Because both choices end the same, so why would i killed them if its only makes my party dissaprove? of course i will choose to allied with them if the end is no different so my party won't disapprove as much as if i killed them
I see your point, but I guess they offer the “kill the Sentinels” option just so you can roleplay
I didn't know Abelas could die... I always do the little puzzle, I like it :) But it should have had consequences for losing time there.
Killing Sentinels is just so cruel :/
You're not really losing time tho, it takes time to go through the area after jumping as well. You are losing time of course if you do the rituals and then jump to get the loot (and codexes), but it's very hard to find a non-meta reason for that anyway.
From the Inq's point of view, the rituals will let them bypass a potentially dangerous area. It's also reasonable to assume that the temple could have more magical defenses (like the one that roasted Cory at the gate), and the rituals could make it so they don't trigger. On the other hand, if you jump after Samson/Calpernia, they'll probably trigger any traps for you and you get to stay on their tail, so that's a valid decision too.
@@Valyrianalien Mhhh I'm not sure about the time thing. For me, jumping into the hole was like the 10 minutes option and doing the rituals like the 30 minutes option. Companions clearly said you will losing more time doing them while Inky soldiers are dying outside. Also, the enemies are supposed to perhaps reach the well during that time. That what my message was about.
But in reality, you can go slow, respect the place, having no consequence for your soldiers, having sentinels on your side and still have the well... You can have *everything*. That's what bother me.
I totally agree with you about protection and stuff in the temple. Make sense. Plus I love having more lore :D
Every time this scene comes up I think of the theme song that plays in LOTR two towers when the elfs come to aid Rohan.
At 4:25
Does anyone else notice cole twitching?
I didn't took this path nor do I ever intend to but even if I did I still love Morrigan for what she did. I wonder if the dagger she used could've been a gift from her Warden, something to use in case Magic can't be used.
In my playthroughs I took the deal and let Abelas go also letting Morrigan drink from the Well, this is an interesting path if I ever play it as an elf, alas, I prefer to be a Human Assassin Rogue in all three games.
Thanks for the videos as always great to watch other paths from this game.
Idk, all things considered, killing them might not be so bad. Perhaps it diminishes Solas' forces in DA4? This choice is in the Tapestry in Dragon Age Keep so it mush be somewhat relevant.
Dude, I ignored this guy so hard, that when the final cutscene played and Flemeth was talking to him and call him the dread wolf, I thought my game broke and was playing other ending or some shit!
Are the armors the inquisitor and Solas are wearing mods for pc, or are they available for ps4 too?
Hey fluffy, I know you made this video a long time ago, but is there any way too get the sentinel armor that the ancient elves are wearing.
I believe its a dlc armor from Trespasser. After this mission, once you complete a war table operation for researching the well of sorrows it gives it as a reward.
You can kill Abelas? D: I could never play a callous inquisitor, it would be too painful. Thank you for doing it for us
I like the looks of your inquisitor. Very special. You hit something there.
The Inquisitor's armour! I must know what it is! And the crafting materials used to make that exact set (if you remember)! That purple armour sleeve is just calling out to me. (Sorry for asking tho lmao you've probably gotten the question a thousand times)
+fooboo24lala Here's how to get the armor: th-cam.com/video/jyUxNAhvjPM/w-d-xo.html As for mats, it's Dales Loden Wool, Avvar Cotton and Dragon Scales if I remember right.
+FluffyNinjaLlama Is Solas armor in this vid is actualy a mod?
Tell me how you got that armor that is using Solas
would like to know aswell ^^
I will admit drinking the well myself gave me less of a headache on nightmare in Tresspasser
Yup, but Solas is definitely going to use the well somehow to his benefit. Considering he's consumed Mythal, it's why I'm willing to sacrifice my inquisitor, to ensure morrigan and my wardens son is safe. Its also sort of poetic as my inky romanced Solas in a sense.
@@leftovermonday1642 did he not consumed Mythal after the DLC ended ... the Dread Wolf who lies to all
Damn, I was close to jumping down that hole to chase the magisters. I was a mage elf tho, so I took the time to do the puzzles. Thank god x_x
ok I have to ask, Fluffy what is the mage set/ robe you are wearing? I've seen it so many times now and yet i have yet to make it/ get it's schematic. thanks :)
+Bellanouva Here's how to get armor and schematics: th-cam.com/video/jyUxNAhvjPM/w-d-xo.html
+FluffyNinjaLlama Thanks!!!
+FluffyNinjaLlama
If that's one of the Trespasser DLC armor how can you get it before the end of the vanilla game?.
+FluffyNinjaLlama that staff? is it a dlc schematic?
FluffyNinjaLlama
making Solas aid in killing the ancient elves seems particularly evil lol.
'Solas, can you talk to them?'
'What the fuck I gonna do I'm dumb as shit'
What robes are those that the inquisitor and Solas are wearing?
What armor is that on solace I know he has it at the end trespass dlc but can't find it anywhere if you can get it in game
its a mod for the pc. Can't get it on consule.
I see Morrigan stole the Waren's trusty killin' knife.
Where can I get that armor Solas is wearing? It looks awesome.
How are you usind the Tresspaser DLC armors in the base Campaign if the DLC is 2 years after the Base Campaign??
Mods??
Mods.
the golden nug lets you save all schematic so when you start a new game you can get all of the schematic your profile had
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Can anyone tell me what kind of armour solas is wearing and how/where to get it.
What armor is Solas using?? It's the one he's wearing on Tresspasser! I'd love to craft it for him on my playthrough, looks sick! Is that a mod or an armor I haven't obtained yet?
Yes, there's a mod for that
What is the armor the inquisitior have on? Is it modded if not I want it someone please know?
I've let Morrigan drink from the Well in my former playthroughs... but now that I see just how greedy she is and that she'd even stab Abelas, I don’t think I can let this particular decision be final. This just calls for another playthrough.
What is the armor called that Solas is wearing
What's the armour that solas is wearing?
Where can i find this armor for the inquisitor?
how did you get the skin that stalks before the tresspasser dlc?
The golden nug in trespasser syncs all collectable items across all characters I believe.
how did you get that armor for solas? its his god armor! i NEED it
how to get those armor for solas dude??
Where or how did you get the staff you and solas have?
How did you get the dread wolf armor?
Mod
Can someone please tell me who disapproves and approves if I do the rituals?
I know Solas approves and Bull disapproves even if he's not in your party
Do you get Solas' trespasser gear after completing the dlc or is it a special schematic?
Still wanting to know this
@@morganguffey7534 Let's put it this way. If you play Trespasser, it locks you out of the rest of the game. It's a Point of No Return sort of thing. You have to play Trespasser absolutely last: after the main game, after The Descent and after Jaws of Hakkon. You cannot even load up the game and return to Skyhold after completing Trespasser.
The armor is from a Nexus mod.
What's the armor the inquisitor is using??
I know it’s been forever but I’m curious what armor is your inquisitor wearing?
I think it's a mod here because you can get this armor only in dlc Tresspasser
Okay... so Solas is thought to have killed Mythal, yeh? So tbqh I can understand why he doesn’t say, “hey I’m the Dread wolf, how y’all doing?” But if he knows that Flemeth is Mythal, and probably knows that Morrgain is Flemeth, and by proxy Mythal’s kid, why doesn’t he use that? Like... “yo... we got the daughter of Mythal right here... uh... let us through?” That would make things easier on literally everyone, also it’s just the right amount of manipulative that I think Solas would pull that shit.
i know this may be annoying but what is the armor solas is wearing it looks so freaking cool
+squirtle OG Solas wears it in Trespasser, this is probably just a mod to get it in game.
how can you wear that armor at that point of the game?
xMIIKOxMIIKOxXD When you acquire it during the trespasser dlc synchronise with the golden nug. Start a new playtrough and synchronise once again at haven and all the schematics will be carried over from the previous playtrough that you used the golden nug on.
i know that XD
but how how can i find the golden nug when im doing the trespasser dlc
To the left of the palace there is a crafting area close to the shops, you can go there in between the quests
how do u get that armor before trespasser
What armor are you using in the video?
Good job Morrigan!
How did you get that armor for solas
Mods
What armor is solas wearing?
How exactly did each servant reach the end of their years when the elves were immortal before the Veil? I'm so confused. Doesn't this contradict the rest of the lore??
How did you get those outfit
where did you get that armor!!
where you get that armor for Solas?
Legendary Thor I think it's a mod
where do you get solas' outfit?
How do you get Sola's Tresspasser outfit? 8O
How to piss off Solas in two seconds:
A tiny question... How do i get the armor that solas wears? xD thanks for the video
Wait how is Solas in that armour, what mod is that
Where'd you get that staff? How'd you get Solas' Wolf amor?
staff is from the DLC with the dwarf expedition
Was there any way this could have been prevented?
That Solas armor wtf. That´s the armor from trespasser ending.
Where did you get this outfit for your Inquisitor?
How did you get that outfit??
is that a mod that gives you solas's wolf armor?
Connor Lindquist I think so
Why is solas wearing his Dread Wold Armor???
Dang, I love Abelas' character, I couldnt do this to him aaaaa, but thank you fluffy for showing me the choices i couldnt make >
Why is there the sound of a blade when Morrigan kills him . . . she's not a rogue.
They all pretty much carry a dagger. I suppose it's a decent backup weapon should you drop your main while in battle.
I was curious what would happen if you do that.... I won't ever be able to bring myself to do that