I personally LOVE the idea of the GPU getting it's own power supply.. Because that totally frees up the desktop's PSU and actually makes custom builds wayyy cheaper instead of having to shell out a few hundred extra JUST to power the GPU lol not that my opinion matters much in this space
Part of the reason i got rx6950xt instead of rtx 4070 is because rx6950xt still uses old power cables , i dont want a melting connector mess and it seems everytime i am in market for a gpu , nvidia is always in the news for wrong reasons.
Love your channel and I know you have a family to take care of but just FYI if you didn't already check Falcon Northwest seriously overprices their PCs. Their Talon Desktop which comes with a 9600x and 4060 TI is starts at $3,700 USD. More than double the price if you just built the PC yourself with the same/similar parts. Obviously when selling a pre built company's need to sell it for more than it's worth to make a profit. But this kind of pricing is INSANE. It takes advantage of people who don't know anything about PC pricing and is a total rip off. Just saying since a lot of people who watch your channel consider you credible and trustworthy. Companies that price prebuilts like Falcon Northwest are what channels like GamersNexus have been calling out. I'm sure their service is great and I'm familiar with their build quality but that kind of pricing is nuts. That being said just wanted to inform you in case you didn't look into them. Wish you the best on your recovery! Happy New Year!
People: $1200 for a 5080 is expensive Nvidia: *Leaks fake $1550 price for 5080* People: Woow, $1550 is really expensive Nvidia: *Releases 5080 for $1200* Peopple $1200 for a 5080 is not expensive
@@henrythegreatamerican8136 More like the AI market is pulling the consumer GPUs up. Why have them affordable when the expensive AI cards are several times more than even the 5080's presumed price? Even if their consumer GPUs aren't selling well, they would just sell less for the same price because most of their money isn't even coming from those but the AI cards anyways.
@@MetallicBlade the 1080ti scared nvidia away from good value cards, with good enough performance to stay relevant for an obscenely long time in terms of hardware. RTX was the response to that imo.
@carlhannah1884 The card the made pc gaming mainstream. And give them MASSIVE turnover. They were like if we're not carfull we'll get extremely rich hear😅
You are completely ignoring the performance gains made with DLSS 3. And Ray traced performance etc. We have entered a whole new paradigm of AI accelerated computing. And that is going to be the status quo for the foreseeable future. Of course the first novel architecture that props that up is going to be expensive, but prices will go down and performance will go up as the paradigm matures.
the only unfortunate news is, they are no longer making the 3080.. or i would buy that card instead of the 40xx series... also the 4080 launched at $1199 MSRP.
I'm so excited to take out a second mortgage so that I can play CURRENT_YEAR political slop at 640p upscaled to 1080 @ 30 FPS that is simultaneously blurry and sharp due to the combination of TAA and upscaling.
And if you dont fully plug in the old style, guess what. It will do the same thing as this new connector. Melt and catch fire. 100% of the issues with the connector are user error (aside from the trash cablemod adapters).
This pricing is the fault of every person who bought a scalped 30 series card back during the pandemic. Scalpers were charging more than double MSRP and selling out cards as fast as they could get them in. People were paying scalpers crazy money for cards they didn't even have in their hands yet just confirmation emails from a retailer. Nvidia learned their lesson, and now all of us get to pay Nvidia the money that used to go to scalpers.
The AI boom that made Nvidia one of the most valuable companies period is probably the main reason. The cards and entire systems they’re selling to big companies are their main money makers now. While seriously, the average consumer should reject their GPUs in favor of AMD or Intel (or consoles), we shouldn’t expect any change until all that AI money dries up (they would probably just make less consumer cards in favor of more cards aimed at AI companies).
@@BloomingSakura Nvidia is an AI chip company these days. GPUs are only a part of what they do and gaming GPUs especially are not that lucrative. Why make 4090 GPUs and sell them for relatively little money when you can make RTX 6000 Ada cards and sell them for $10000?
@@wombatillo Dunno if it's how I worded it or you replied to the wrong person, but yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's literally nothing we can do about Nvidia's pricing until the AI boom is over.
I can't say this enough, people need to combat these ridiculous GPU prices with their wallets. It's the only way to respond, that's how the free market works.
Well Nvidia will be very sad and make more B100 and sell them for 50k to the big cloud companies which will take everything Nvidia can make. Its sad but see the 5090 more as charity :-)
Some people have more money than sense, I want to upgrade my 1080ti, but I refuse to pay those prices, even if I could afford several 4090s, that's just stupid amounts of money for a GPU.
@@UltimateGattai I totally understand where you're coming from. Let's look at the recent Intel battlemage release, I think most people would say they hit the sweet spot for a lot of people. I think if that speculated pricing is similar to final, I think a lot of people will reject it, and not buy
@@toututu2993 I used to only use AMD up to the 5700 XT. My last upgrade was to the 4070 TI. That will probably be the only in NVIDIA graphics card I will ever own.
@@chrisking6695 but dlss and fsr SHOULDNT be required, devs nowadays see the powerful cards and dont optimize their games therefore it gives the illusion that you need the newer graphics cards when in reality games arent being optimized properly anymore
3080=$700. 4080=-$1,200. you still think this price is exaggerated? btw, 4090=$2,500-2,700. price went up by $900-1,200. it was $1,600. 5080 will be $1,500 US price, then they will release 5080 super at $1,200. sell 5080 first for $1,500, then release 5080 super for $1,200=4080 price.
Even over $2k for a gpu. To play games that are trending to be worse and worse. Worse -playing, worse-looking, increasingly more boring, while also becoming more and more demanding. And people are still drooling over the possibility to throw more and more money on this. Clown world.
True words man, imagine paying thousands of hard earned money just to play a half-a** game, I'm still happy with my GTX 970, still a beast in my eyes and can run games like BF1 and I'm happy.
Agreed. I think the good thing for most of us, we have GPU's that work just fine with terrible games so their is no need to upgrade. It's past time to speak with our wallets for the entirety of the gaming industry.
I just want more powerful GPUs for modded Skyrim and Star citizen. I don’t care for anything else anymore. My current setup can play all the emulators and older games I’ll ever play at this point. If I want a newer games that’s multiplayer then I’m hoping it’s on game pass so I can play on series x but other than that, I just need more powerful for next next game mods for Skyrim.
@@toututu2993 I can tell you are little children. An adult making 90k a year, which is very common here in SoCal, is far from rich but they can easily buy such a card with planning. $2600 / 12 months = $217. So, do you need to be rich to put aside $217 for 12 months? Literally every adult working a normal paying job (plumbing, electrician, nurse, EMT etc) can do that. You can even save half of it for 24 months or a 1/4 for 4 years. If you really want a 5090 at some point you need to be patient and save. You don't have to be rich for it even to pay cash. I make a little over 6 figures a year and can drop the money on the GPU because I don't have a mortgage to pay. But I'm not rich. Or do you think making 7000-10000 a month in SoCal qualifies as rich? Certainly not. In fact, if I had a mortage to pay, 50-60% of my income would be gone because of the insane interest rates and housing prices here. I don't know how that qualifies me as rich. Rich people can buy a $500k house with their yearly bonus. I'd say if you make close to or over $1 mil a year you are rich because it accumulates. If I made that much, heck, I'd buy everyone on here a 5090.
@@UserAccount-ThisOne no, he hasn't. people buy these gpu at these insane prices, so they are the ones to blame. period. 3080 was $700. 4080 was $1,200 and people bought it. you tell me consumers are not to blame? yes they freaking are. and guess what? Nvcidia will bump up the price of 5080. duh.
@@ral8031 No its not, eventually even you fanboys are going to look really dumb spending 3k for a GPU. People are just going to laugh at all the idiots spending that money and the fan boys thinking they look cool because they spent 3k.Same mentality as the idiots at strip clubs spending paychecks thinking the stripper is going home with them.
@@ral8031 its actually not, there is a reason they have said before there gaming lineup actually undersells vs there AI product stack and server product stack. they are simply offsetting the costs through there larger sales. Might be sustainable at some point, but eventually when those avenues begin to slow in growth, then so does the earnings meaning they can no longer keep the gaming side a float using costs from there other sale figures. So that either means nvidia price themselves out of a market (which is exactly why AMD aint doing a high end GPU. It costs to much and the ROI isnt worth it) OR they begin to stop doing high end products as prices will eventually increase across the board and they know selling a 3k or 4k GPU just wont happen in the next 5-10 years when inflation will increase (it always does) and cost of living also increases in many areas. Hell if Intels B770 is anything to go by, they could already price the 4070Ti out the market with better performance for either the same price OR less price. Nvidia are screwed if they carry this on in the next 2-5 years
I hope Nvidia sees abysmal sales but a lot of people will probably just buy them anyway. I'm always extremely thankful that I have no interest in playing any games that need the super high end cards.
Most games that need high end card are either badly made and optimized. If you want to play those games there is high end AMD and Intel which is a lot cheaper while also better in raw performance than Nvidia which market DLSS as if it improve anything in performance
@@toututu2993 Yeah you're right. I have a pretty decent AMD card, it's going on two generations old with the new ones coming out soon but it performs perfectly fine for everything I play. Which does include some more demanding games, but I'm happy to just not play on max settings. I don't really play all the latest games, I'm just not the biggest gamer and don't have too much time.
i dont like wishing bad stuff to ppl, but i dont like greed. How about respecting the customer for sponsoring u to reach this level/goal? This concept is lost to companies.
What the hell is 600W for a 5090!!! That's literally a microwave or a mini-oven power consumption. Producing a GPU that takes 25% more power with less than 25% in performance (I might be wrong tho) means a worse GPU + that's a huge punch to the electricity bill probably the 5090 owners won't care since they have the money for this much power
@@SapiaNt0mata Nvidia will eventually be like vehicle dealers sitting on inventory for months to years. They were pushing prices two gens ago. Only so many streamers pushing them and rich idiots out there. The bubble will pop sooner than later
Nvidia Marketing Tactics: "Leak" high price for gpu, gauge public opinion... Lower it by 100$ for launch over speculated "Leaked" price, Nvidia looks to "drop" price to look good compared to "Leaked" price. Meanwhile GPU price goes up over last gen by a substantial margin.
So that price is probably hiked up for the smugglers. We won't know because the photo source is a rumor summary video itself with no reference to the pricing.
'Nvidia can't be serious' Nvidia: I know, right? Such a ridiculously low price for the performance jump, feels like a charity! The 5000 cards are such a sweet deal. We are just too generous to those ungrateful cheap asses.
Sir, you are wearing a shirt of a band I played with once YEARS ago. How dare you make me remember my SKA days. I love it thank you. I miss Tohkay and the SM crew so much.
The good thing for most of us is we already have GPUs that work just fine with modern games that are worse playing, looking, and increasingly more boring, all while also becoming more and more demanding. Is it really worth it to upgrade? I don't think so. Maybe it's far past time for consumers like ourselves to essentially boycott and speak with our wallets to the entirety of the gaming industry until things change.
I feel the same. Is a couple of years that I'm thinking to upgrade(i78700 + rtx 2080) in the end I always choose not too, caoze the gaming scene is just filled with desolation.
Just watched Owen’s video. Those Chinese prices are guesses by a Chinese TH-camr who is making his guesses based on rumours. TH-camrs got a real ouroboros situation going on, taking one rumour, making a vid and then another takes it as fact and then makes a vid. Snake feeding itself.
@@jeje4131 I've seen it, if you trust that then I got a bridge to sell you. Brain rot these days have people trusting grainy vids from randoms that a 8 year old can make.
@@jeje4131 that is a lot to expensive. i think it will be best 10% faster than a 4080, same Graphic Memory. means. the real features of the new chip, cant be really used in highter resolutions, because to less graphic memory. I think myself nvidia knows this, put the old line on the market first, before the 5090 coming, and sell it to some ppl what buy ecverything, if it is new. After this, they will rework 5080 to 20 or 24 gb vram, and release an updatet version. That s what i think. in every situation, buying a 5080 is the most wrong way you can do.
@@mastershadow3894 A random screenshot taken by some random person. Talk about brain rot, do you also believe in all those UFO sightings last week that turned out to be airplanes?
"Nvidia can't be serious" (about the pricing for the 5000 series) This was said the previous generation too but people easily forget. So yeah, they're more than serious, and people will still buy it. And they will continue to increase prices until people stop buying.
But last time we have to wait forever for inventory to replenish and prices were so high that people got tired of waiting and so just paid the high prices. Not this time..
@@ZacharySound sure keep telling yourself that. Gamers are impatient and incapable of standing by their word, look at all the boycotts that they've done...
The 5090 will sell like hotcakes because nothing will come close to it by quite a big margin. Even if gamers didn't buy them, businesses will gobble them up nigh instantly anyways. The rest of the 50 series lineup though? Yeah. Not gonna sell well at all if the leaks are real.
with this level of price hiking I wouldnt be surprised in a decade if a top of the line pc you build yourself would cost you $10k. What i really want from Nvidia is to have a couple generations that they skip on trying to have huge gains in performance for having average to low end gains in performance, but instead focus on lowering the cost of the product. Which will probably never happen, since they are a company that strictly follows the money.
That just tells me that gaming and general productivity for my build is entirely out of the equation and they expect me to adopt 40 series at a reduced price instead. Fingers crossed they're aren't gating the next iteration of DLSS behind these cards too.
same. But I still need a desktop and I can't not have a functional GPU. Once my 1060 dies, I don't know if I'll have to settle for paying unreasonably more for something almost-decent, or paying the unreasonable minimum and getting an outdated potato. The good cards don't really reach our region at ok prices to begin with and I know the same is true for a lot of other places in the world too.
you should probably upgrade to a 5800x3d and just live off that for the next 4 years. 2070s here, i'm not playing any new games, i'm just chilling playing those indie games, or single player games these days. If im playing with friends, its usually some older game (2012-2020) anyways
I don't waste my time following the pricing on the upcoming Aston Martins or Bugattis anymore. The pricing on the Kia Tellurides is what is important to me.
exactly people dont get it 5090 = bugatti veyron and they think everyone can get this but its ultimate premium gpu you can buy so clearly it should cost alot if not premium it would be 250 bucks like b580 garbage
Jensen: "How to we get more people to buy our GPU with a 20% price hike?" Nvidia Executive: "Leak a 35% price hike." Jensen: "Do it." Lisa Su: "Nvidia is raising prices, I guess we need to do the same."
more people have 4070=$600 than rx 7600=$300 and rx 7600xt. a lot of people buy Nvidia for the brand, just how people camp outside Apple to buy the new Iphone. but unlike phones that there's Samsung, there's no Samsung for GPU. even if AMD lowers price, people will still buy Nvidia. there are good alternatives to Iphone that don't cost, $1,400. people will buy Iphone cause of the brand. same applies to Nvidia. people understimate the brand more than they should when there are cases(like Apple) that you shouldn't. people just don't want to learn.
@@SapiaNt0mata/videos I doubt Nvidia could scare away the die hard fans if they tried. My point is, if they release with a 20% price hike, a lot of media coverage may end up being "At least it's not 35%."
Anything more than 2k is just absolutely ridiculous, they have become 1 of the richest companies in the world from Ai. Theres no reason to gouge the average gamer no more than they already have
$1,200. 3080=$700. 4080=-$1,200. 5080 will be $1,500 US price, then they will release 5080 super at $1,200. sell 5080 first for $1,500, then release 5080 super for $1,200=4080 price.
The high end 5000-series are probably priced so that they can make a bundle selling technically non-enterprise powerful GPUs to restricted countries that want AI performance.
Why don't they just just XT60 high power connectors on cards? Since they work very well on high power battery connectors that are about the same size as the stupid 16 pin
@@frallorfrallor3410 That's not a new trend, it's a bad standard that needs to be changed to something that can handle the power draw better. If you ask me, I think the form factor for GPU's needs to be revised completely. There is too much weight on the pcie slot with all of the cooling needed for devices with this kind of power draw. I also refuse to buy NVIDIA, rip off company. The RX 5070 is looking to be a great deal for me.
Just a note for the editor(s) - the audio cue that was played whenever the vertical split popped up became quite annoying (for me). It felt a bit overused (even by halfway through the video) and disturbed my listening to the video as a background window. Thanks for all good work.
People that complain about these prices are the same people that complain about microtransactions in games. Enough people are buying this stuff to make the companies keep doing this. Until we stop buying this crap it will not stop.
yea honeslty there is noting to talk about whatever youtuber says dosnt matter once new tech is out you hav two option buy it or not buy it if you wait that mby most smart thing you can ever do
I remember back when my dad and I used to spec systems for our house and/or donating to our school in the early to mid-90s. Even un-adjusted for inflation they were often costing $3,000 for a system with no 3D GPU. Then prices kept coming down for years and now Nvidia is trying to get back up to that price for the GPU alone. It’s freaking ridiculous and nobody should be buying new NVidia GPUs at that price for gaming. $850 USD max for an 80-class GPU with 16GB VRAM (assuming adequate bandwidth) and $1,000 max for anything above that for gaming. Nobody should pay more than that unless they get it for work.
Random hard limits I have: Single fast food meal: $10. Video game: $40. Graphics card: $700. The quality and quantity of everything i can buy in these limits is decreasing alarmingly fast.
Everyone speculating on Nvidia leaks, but no one seems to talk about AMD leaks, like their ''Nvidia from Wish'' new naming scheme, taking a leaf from the marketing books of all those ''Iphone 19 Pro's'' you can get on wish! 😂🤣
Nvidia leaks set people to expect doomsday prices so that actual prices don't feel as bad even though they're still a ripoff, AMD leaks set the expectation that it's gonna be this amazing product that will save us from Ngreedia only to disappoint even if it's still a better value product.
If rtx 5090 is 60% faster/better than 4090 then price should be same. Otherwise it goes completely against their claim of progress! Stock will go down bad if the prices are that high.
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nGREEDIA's excuse: "Oh but, it will have way faster memory and some voodoo magic to compensate for the shit amount of vram GuYsS!" Me: Are they serious?! In what way can you replace a hard hardware bottleneck with a few snake-oil software tricks?
@@HawkHogan_ Ya, I miss having US being a great place for pc gaming, and with the birdflu/defunding that will happen I don't think our eggs are getting any cheaper....
not really surprising, without the ability to rely on die shrinks to net huge gains in performance while also reducing die sizes and improving yields, the price of the gpus will massively increases as the only way to improve performance is by either making the chips architecture way more efficient which often only made a very small improvement in the past or increasing how much power it consumes which is not ideal as it means it costs more to run, and require better cooler and we end up with bigger cards which are already huge. Another method would be a chiplet design and combining multiple smaller gpus together instead of trying to manufacture a large powerful chip, but it also has a lot of drawbacks.
The only reason NVidia, AMD, and Intel are able to price things so high is because they have a monopoly on their chips, architecture, and other stuff related to their IP claim(intellectual property, which really should be called intellectual monopoly since the "property" part is objectively deceptive word play that ignores what actual property is). This is because IP makes it illegal to do what you want with your property by circumventing property norms that have existed since humanity... you know... had the concept of property. Property itself exists because resources are scarce and ultimately, being able to secure for yourself your own stuff tends to be better than having everyone contributing to the same pool because eventually people kinda realize they can munch off the labor of others instead of putting in actual effort resulting in those that do actually put their time in getting a fraction of the value of their efforts. Plus, collective decision making does not actually result in ALL the needs that people have being satisfied or them being satisfied effectively or efficiently. Hence, property exists. Intellectual monopoly (IM), however, puts a claim on a nontangible, non-scarce, concept and backs it up with state force. This is functionally equivalent to say that you can't think about, draw, design, or create a printer with your own resources or else we will take your stuff and put you in jail, and if you resist, we will bash your head in. And yes, the last part about executing the perpetrator is true. We generally do not punish IP violations with death (I dunno about other countries, but I digress), but because rules tend to only be enforceable with force (there is a reason why it is spelled that way). There is an innate death threat with every rule and law the government creates because someone has to actually make arrests and people may not agree with the rule and may resist. The penalties for law violations described in our legal code or by judicial precedent exist because they are the first threat to violating legislation. The threat of force is for failing to face the original penalty. It is equivalent to saying "If you take my stuff out of my store, I will slap your bum, take your money, and follow you until you we to your residence where I will pelt its exterior with tomatoes. If you steal my stuff and resist your humiliation, God will have a word with you, and I will ensure you hear it." Because of that, we must be careful with what laws we create, because are literally saying we would kill to enforce them. Back to IM, it cannot be considered property for the lack of claim to anything scarce or tangible. In truth, IM is really a way of circumventing actual property rights without actually provding a good reason for doing so. The IM "owner" doesn't own the metal from which you make your own car. They have neither a claim to optical disk they sold you or the data on it. The only way are able to make the claim is with a state-sponsored, monopoly-enforcement stick. Worse yet, the main justification for this is to protect profits... But the profits in question are not real but hypothetical. They conjecture about the future, not realities of the present. Furthermore, since when does anyone have a right to another person's property until a transaction is made and completed. Property rights do not exist to protect a person or company's revenue projections or stock price. They can only justly protect that which one already owns. IM breaks this concept and claims an individual can own an idea, a concept alien to natural law and, realistically, wouldn't exist in common law either. At most, it may exist in private law, but even then, it would only affect those that willingly agree to it. And in all honesty, it probably wouldn't exist for long. Since it only affects those in the know that agreed to it. If someone outside the agreement comes to the knowledge of the concept being protected, there is no just claim upon which the agreement could continue without creating an extremely bizare set of rules, which, while one may technically agree too, the arrangement itself would become pointless. I could go on, but I suggest checkout out Stephen Kinsella and his work on the case against intellectual monopoly. Back to subject to our current pricing situation. NVidia, AMD, and Intel are the only ones producing computer chips with their designs (excluding certain platforms, ie, mobile) because they have patents on their inventions (and copyright on some related stuff, i.e. drivers and firmware). They are encouraged to hold them for themselves and only license when it would improve their bottom line. Even then, they control what other companies can do with their chips, resulting in a lack of innovation and REAL chocie in the market. If we were to live in a world without IM, we would find that they would not only have more competition in creating chips at cheapter prices since other companies would be able to reverse engineeer their products, but also the cost of production going down as well, since the patents on the expensive machines that are used to create the chips for their products would not exist as well, meaning the actual price would go down siginificantly. The consumer would end up having far more meaningful choices regarding all parts of the hardware. Of course, the big three would still be able to have their club, but that club would not have complete control over the market. Furthermore, all competitors existing and new would be able to feed off of each other's designs since reverse engineering would be cheap and legal. Of course, some companies would have better assurances and quality than others but not everyone wants the highest quality components, particularly if they are cheap enough and their needs don't actually require 24/7 availability. Do you truely need the most reliable NEVERDIE(tm) rated graphics card when you are probably going to upgrade anyway to a new and faster one in 3-5 years? Also, the ability for bad practices and anti-consumer designs to affect the consumer would decrease since the company's reputation matters more in a market with many competitors, and, if that company cripples their lineup, a competitor would likely offer parts for a similar or cheaper price to win their market share away from them. And if they don't listen to reason... well the market will make them or put them out of business forever or until they get their act together. Furthermore, if a component is neutered third-parties may offer to upgrade these components. TL;DR, **** IP.
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Isn't it odd how people kept shitting on Radeon so nobody bought them and pre-build sellers never use Radeon so nobody sees them. Now Radeon has pulled out of the high end market and everyone gets to pay the price, now with a 37% markup.
Boycott Nvidia. This will force them to stop taking advantage of us consumers. AMD has great gpus and unless you have a productivity workload, do you really need a 5090? I have a nvidia gpu and I will not be going nvidia until they change. People you hold the power here. Please realize that.
Nvidia does not make most of their money from gamers, so good luck? We hold very very little power actually at least for with Nvidia. Also even when people had the power, the masses often fail to use it like they did with Netflix.
what you saying makes no sence at all lol, how do you think pleased nvidia users for long time will out of nowhere boicot this comapany becasue prices is steep when they had never a single issue gaming?your post is inrelavant sorry
It's not even that AMD has the chance to do something good for consumers, they've been in a position to make big market share gains in the GPU space and just absolutely fumbled every one. I dunno if the Radeon division is even responsible or if it's AMD corporate so to speak; but it really seems like instead of trying to take a bigger piece of the pie, they're very focused on matching Nvidia's moves. "Oh, look, they overpriced the 4060 and gave it 8GB of VRAM!? What stooges! We should do that with the 7600, but just be a little cheaper!"
I am surprised that no one is talking about the 9800x3d pricing. In Europe the price is around 700€ (730$) if you get a bargain. Many shops sell them well over 800€ (830$), easily getting to 1200€(1250$).
Apple's serious about their ridiculous prices ... NVdia is just attempting to rake in as much as they can before China catches up (which they already have). Wait 2 years before buying a new GPU. Best advice I can give.
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I personally LOVE the idea of the GPU getting it's own power supply..
Because that totally frees up the desktop's PSU and actually makes custom builds wayyy cheaper instead of having to shell out a few hundred extra JUST to power the GPU
lol not that my opinion matters much in this space
Part of the reason i got rx6950xt instead of rtx 4070 is because rx6950xt still uses old power cables , i dont want a melting connector mess and it seems everytime i am in market for a gpu , nvidia is always in the news for wrong reasons.
at next years charity stream, you should get a tattoo of the temporary tattoo EKG leads.
Love your channel and I know you have a family to take care of but just FYI if you didn't already check Falcon Northwest seriously overprices their PCs. Their Talon Desktop which comes with a 9600x and 4060 TI is starts at $3,700 USD. More than double the price if you just built the PC yourself with the same/similar parts. Obviously when selling a pre built company's need to sell it for more than it's worth to make a profit. But this kind of pricing is INSANE. It takes advantage of people who don't know anything about PC pricing and is a total rip off. Just saying since a lot of people who watch your channel consider you credible and trustworthy. Companies that price prebuilts like Falcon Northwest are what channels like GamersNexus have been calling out. I'm sure their service is great and I'm familiar with their build quality but that kind of pricing is nuts.
That being said just wanted to inform you in case you didn't look into them. Wish you the best on your recovery! Happy New Year!
Nobody should buy a 5080. This is just stillborn. It is the most bad deal since the GTX 3000 Lines.
The Kidney joke isn’t a joke anymore
except we wont be selling our owns, time to go Cyberpunk on others
@@wendigo7176 More like Rimworld.
I've already lined up some hobos with fairly healthy looking stomachs.
I'm selling my 2 kidneys and pancreas and my liver for a rtx 5090
the second after surgery is done: *falls to the ground and passes out*
It was never a joke
People: $1200 for a 5080 is expensive
Nvidia: *Leaks fake $1550 price for 5080*
People: Woow, $1550 is really expensive
Nvidia: *Releases 5080 for $1200*
Peopple $1200 for a 5080 is not expensive
I cannot fathom spending that much money on a single component...
'Remembers when a xx80 series card used to be $500-$700 MSRP.'
They must be selling plenty of them to keep prices that high.
@@henrythegreatamerican8136 More like the AI market is pulling the consumer GPUs up. Why have them affordable when the expensive AI cards are several times more than even the 5080's presumed price? Even if their consumer GPUs aren't selling well, they would just sell less for the same price because most of their money isn't even coming from those but the AI cards anyways.
@@MetallicBlade the 1080ti scared nvidia away from good value cards, with good enough performance to stay relevant for an obscenely long time in terms of hardware. RTX was the response to that imo.
The 3080 was 69% faster for $700 with a silicon shortage. The 4080 was 20% faster for $1100 dollars without. Nvidia must laugh themselves to sleep 😂
They still lose sleep over the 1080 and how much value and longevity they gave the consumer. They will never forgive themselves.
@carlhannah1884 The card the made pc gaming mainstream. And give them MASSIVE turnover. They were like if we're not carfull we'll get extremely rich hear😅
You are completely ignoring the performance gains made with DLSS 3. And Ray traced performance etc. We have entered a whole new paradigm of AI accelerated computing. And that is going to be the status quo for the foreseeable future. Of course the first novel architecture that props that up is going to be expensive, but prices will go down and performance will go up as the paradigm matures.
the only unfortunate news is, they are no longer making the 3080.. or i would buy that card instead of the 40xx series...
also the 4080 launched at $1199 MSRP.
@@carlhannah1884 1080TI was a monster.
I'm waiting for someone to say their 5090 card blew up.
yeah but it freed the ppl in uh iraq
@@mewre2062 Bruh 😂
2.6k for a card it better blow me.
@@zaxmaxlax The triple fan model will.
Just cause you jelly cause you can't afford one
Kidneys aren’t going to cover these prices anymore, have to sell everything
just get on OF :D
@@JustFishBait silly, not even the discord mods on these places have such money
Overused joke😅
Kidneys are worth more than a simple gpu it's life
I'm so excited to take out a second mortgage so that I can play CURRENT_YEAR political slop at 640p upscaled to 1080 @ 30 FPS that is simultaneously blurry and sharp due to the combination of TAA and upscaling.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 just dont buy it lil bro
NOT having the 12VHPWR connector is a selling point for me.
Traditional PCI-E power connectors may bulkier, buy they sure are reliable AF.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I actually prefer the single cable going to my card. Haven't had issues with it on my 4080 super
And if you dont fully plug in the old style, guess what. It will do the same thing as this new connector. Melt and catch fire. 100% of the issues with the connector are user error (aside from the trash cablemod adapters).
@Kriptoker on mommy bro thats like saying a cpu is bad bc someone didn't socket it correctly and it blew up
@@Kriptoker sure, but when the rate of user error is higher on a newer design - its a design problem
This pricing is the fault of every person who bought a scalped 30 series card back during the pandemic. Scalpers were charging more than double MSRP and selling out cards as fast as they could get them in. People were paying scalpers crazy money for cards they didn't even have in their hands yet just confirmation emails from a retailer. Nvidia learned their lesson, and now all of us get to pay Nvidia the money that used to go to scalpers.
The AI boom that made Nvidia one of the most valuable companies period is probably the main reason. The cards and entire systems they’re selling to big companies are their main money makers now. While seriously, the average consumer should reject their GPUs in favor of AMD or Intel (or consoles), we shouldn’t expect any change until all that AI money dries up (they would probably just make less consumer cards in favor of more cards aimed at AI companies).
Let's not forget, why CUDA acceleration is still more reliable than their "alternatives"
@@BloomingSakura Nvidia is an AI chip company these days. GPUs are only a part of what they do and gaming GPUs especially are not that lucrative. Why make 4090 GPUs and sell them for relatively little money when you can make RTX 6000 Ada cards and sell them for $10000?
Yup, I skipped upgrading my computer because I refuse to give scalpers money.
@@wombatillo Dunno if it's how I worded it or you replied to the wrong person, but yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's literally nothing we can do about Nvidia's pricing until the AI boom is over.
I can't say this enough, people need to combat these ridiculous GPU prices with their wallets. It's the only way to respond, that's how the free market works.
Well Nvidia will be very sad and make more B100 and sell them for 50k to the big cloud companies which will take everything Nvidia can make. Its sad but see the 5090 more as charity :-)
Some people have more money than sense, I want to upgrade my 1080ti, but I refuse to pay those prices, even if I could afford several 4090s, that's just stupid amounts of money for a GPU.
Nvidia doesnt care. They arnt making stuff for gamers
@@UltimateGattai I totally understand where you're coming from. Let's look at the recent Intel battlemage release, I think most people would say they hit the sweet spot for a lot of people.
I think if that speculated pricing is similar to final, I think a lot of people will reject it, and not buy
@@benjaminleonhardi3830 😂😂😂
Their AI projects far surpass their gaming revenue these days. They consider it a privilege for gamers to be able to own their products now.
I hope the pricing is exaggerated. If this is real NVIDIA will lose me as a customer.
You’re not the only one, if the 9070 XT is compelling enough I’m switching
Get a better card from AMD and Intel. No reason to worship Nvidia. They stopped improving their card performance because of DLSS feature
@@toututu2993 I used to only use AMD up to the 5700 XT. My last upgrade was to the 4070 TI. That will probably be the only in NVIDIA graphics card I will ever own.
@@chrisking6695 but dlss and fsr SHOULDNT be required, devs nowadays see the powerful cards and dont optimize their games therefore it gives the illusion that you need the newer graphics cards when in reality games arent being optimized properly anymore
3080=$700. 4080=-$1,200. you still think this price is exaggerated? btw, 4090=$2,500-2,700. price went up by $900-1,200. it was $1,600. 5080 will be $1,500 US price, then they will release 5080 super at $1,200. sell 5080 first for $1,500, then release 5080 super for $1,200=4080 price.
Even over $2k for a gpu. To play games that are trending to be worse and worse. Worse -playing, worse-looking, increasingly more boring, while also becoming more and more demanding. And people are still drooling over the possibility to throw more and more money on this. Clown world.
True words man, imagine paying thousands of hard earned money just to play a half-a** game, I'm still happy with my GTX 970, still a beast in my eyes and can run games like BF1 and I'm happy.
Agreed. I think the good thing for most of us, we have GPU's that work just fine with terrible games so their is no need to upgrade. It's past time to speak with our wallets for the entirety of the gaming industry.
like everything else in life, people have more money than they do common sense
I just want more powerful GPUs for modded Skyrim and Star citizen. I don’t care for anything else anymore. My current setup can play all the emulators and older games I’ll ever play at this point. If I want a newer games that’s multiplayer then I’m hoping it’s on game pass so I can play on series x but other than that, I just need more powerful for next next game mods for Skyrim.
@@Monti3395 970?? dude that thing is anchient af lol
Tô be fair, Ngreedia fans deserve this
Do not worry Ngreedia fans are either a rich kid or someone who got paid $100,000,000 per hours for sleeping in the crouch all day
i highly suggest you watch louis rossman, he has an extremely valid point on why blaming the consumers is an awful decision to make...
@@toututu2993 I can tell you are little children. An adult making 90k a year, which is very common here in SoCal, is far from rich but they can easily buy such a card with planning.
$2600 / 12 months = $217. So, do you need to be rich to put aside $217 for 12 months? Literally every adult working a normal paying job (plumbing, electrician, nurse, EMT etc) can do that. You can even save half of it for 24 months or a 1/4 for 4 years. If you really want a 5090 at some point you need to be patient and save.
You don't have to be rich for it even to pay cash. I make a little over 6 figures a year and can drop the money on the GPU because I don't have a mortgage to pay. But I'm not rich. Or do you think making 7000-10000 a month in SoCal qualifies as rich? Certainly not. In fact, if I had a mortage to pay, 50-60% of my income would be gone because of the insane interest rates and housing prices here. I don't know how that qualifies me as rich. Rich people can buy a $500k house with their yearly bonus. I'd say if you make close to or over $1 mil a year you are rich because it accumulates. If I made that much, heck, I'd buy everyone on here a 5090.
@@UserAccount-ThisOne I'm not blaming consumers sir, the entire fault is on Ngreedia.
Also consumer ≠ fan
@@UserAccount-ThisOne no, he hasn't. people buy these gpu at these insane prices, so they are the ones to blame. period. 3080 was $700. 4080 was $1,200 and people bought it. you tell me consumers are not to blame? yes they freaking are. and guess what? Nvcidia will bump up the price of 5080. duh.
Happy new year... Aussie over here, just became 2025 for me.
Happy new year!!! Only 15:22 here in Denmark on the 31.
happy new year mate! glad you've not fallen of yet!
7:30 am in Colorado USA (new year eve)
me too friend
Hows living in the future?
NVIDIA shifting their entire product stack up one price tier every new generation is definitely not a sustainable model
Yes it is.
@@ral8031
Kid named Intel ARC B580:
@@ral8031 No its not, eventually even you fanboys are going to look really dumb spending 3k for a GPU. People are just going to laugh at all the idiots spending that money and the fan boys thinking they look cool because they spent 3k.Same mentality as the idiots at strip clubs spending paychecks thinking the stripper is going home with them.
@@ral8031 They're just predicting next year's inflation
@@ral8031 its actually not, there is a reason they have said before there gaming lineup actually undersells vs there AI product stack and server product stack. they are simply offsetting the costs through there larger sales.
Might be sustainable at some point, but eventually when those avenues begin to slow in growth, then so does the earnings meaning they can no longer keep the gaming side a float using costs from there other sale figures.
So that either means nvidia price themselves out of a market (which is exactly why AMD aint doing a high end GPU. It costs to much and the ROI isnt worth it) OR they begin to stop doing high end products as prices will eventually increase across the board and they know selling a 3k or 4k GPU just wont happen in the next 5-10 years when inflation will increase (it always does) and cost of living also increases in many areas.
Hell if Intels B770 is anything to go by, they could already price the 4070Ti out the market with better performance for either the same price OR less price. Nvidia are screwed if they carry this on in the next 2-5 years
I hope Nvidia sees abysmal sales but a lot of people will probably just buy them anyway. I'm always extremely thankful that I have no interest in playing any games that need the super high end cards.
Most games that need high end card are either badly made and optimized. If you want to play those games there is high end AMD and Intel which is a lot cheaper while also better in raw performance than Nvidia which market DLSS as if it improve anything in performance
They make most of their money on AI soo yeah probably won't hurt them that bad.
@@toututu2993 Yeah you're right. I have a pretty decent AMD card, it's going on two generations old with the new ones coming out soon but it performs perfectly fine for everything I play. Which does include some more demanding games, but I'm happy to just not play on max settings. I don't really play all the latest games, I'm just not the biggest gamer and don't have too much time.
@@smarthousetech8593 agreed. Unless the AI bubble bursts which will hurt them alot.
i dont like wishing bad stuff to ppl, but i dont like greed. How about respecting the customer for sponsoring u to reach this level/goal? This concept is lost to companies.
Honestly the streetlight shirt fits for the 5090 price conversation. "A moment of silence please for those that never get the chance...."
"Would you be impressed, if I told you we weren't buying..."
*And every price they gave us, was a LIIIEEEEEEE*
Nvidia let $2600 slip then prices it at $2300 and some people will say “look it’s cheaper than forecasted…buy”
What the hell is 600W for a 5090!!! That's literally a microwave or a mini-oven power consumption.
Producing a GPU that takes 25% more power with less than 25% in performance (I might be wrong tho) means a worse GPU
+ that's a huge punch to the electricity bill
probably the 5090 owners won't care since they have the money for this much power
can we just boycot Nvidia?
Yes but that does nothing to them because they make most of their money from AI lol
No. Because gamers aren’t NVIDIA’s only customer.
its like asking to boycott activision, its never going to work in the end
They'll lose like 2% of their revenue if us gamers don't buy their overpriced trash. We can't change anything anymore
Now that is a great idea. Who would have ever thought of that 🤔???
Last time I bought RTX because it has Nvidia names on it
NVidia really losing grip on the reality of how much they should price their cards
Or everyone else is is.
no, they don't. people buy these gpu. buying it gives the wrong message: keep increasing the prices. we'll buy them anyway.
@@SapiaNt0mata Nvidia will eventually be like vehicle dealers sitting on inventory for months to years. They were pushing prices two gens ago. Only so many streamers pushing them and rich idiots out there. The bubble will pop sooner than later
Reminds me of Tesla and Musk.
@@zack9912000 It won't. Because the consumer/gaming GPU sector is an afterthought.
Nvidia Marketing Tactics: "Leak" high price for gpu, gauge public opinion... Lower it by 100$ for launch over speculated "Leaked" price, Nvidia looks to "drop" price to look good compared to "Leaked" price. Meanwhile GPU price goes up over last gen by a substantial margin.
Why is the China listing a 5090? I thought they were banned by the US? Only the 5090 D can be sold in China.
Good point
So that price is probably hiked up for the smugglers. We won't know because the photo source is a rumor summary video itself with no reference to the pricing.
wher you think gpu is produced lol in us? or china or taiwand indonesia=?
'Nvidia can't be serious'
Nvidia: I know, right? Such a ridiculously low price for the performance jump, feels like a charity! The 5000 cards are such a sweet deal. We are just too generous to those ungrateful cheap asses.
Sir, you are wearing a shirt of a band I played with once YEARS ago. How dare you make me remember my SKA days. I love it thank you. I miss Tohkay and the SM crew so much.
When did you play with them? I only saw them in concert once back in 2008. Hoping to see them again, especially once the new album drops.
That price leak is the last scalpers attempt to sell their 4090s stock. There is nothing official!
4090 in my country sell for 2500 used
9:25 Can someone please explain to me what he means in this statement? Last I checked the 7900xtx is 355W, 4090 is 450W
The good thing for most of us is we already have GPUs that work just fine with modern games that are worse playing, looking, and increasingly more boring, all while also becoming more and more demanding. Is it really worth it to upgrade? I don't think so. Maybe it's far past time for consumers like ourselves to essentially boycott and speak with our wallets to the entirety of the gaming industry until things change.
these gpu are not for the most. it's for the few. for the most it's 4060.
I feel the same. Is a couple of years that I'm thinking to upgrade(i78700 + rtx 2080) in the end I always choose not too, caoze the gaming scene is just filled with desolation.
Just watched Owen’s video. Those Chinese prices are guesses by a Chinese TH-camr who is making his guesses based on rumours. TH-camrs got a real ouroboros situation going on, taking one rumour, making a vid and then another takes it as fact and then makes a vid. Snake feeding itself.
There is a video with retailer listing pricing etc. 5090 will touch 3k 5080 Will touch 2k on custom card ofc. MSRP is around 1500 for the 5080
@@jeje4131 I've seen it, if you trust that then I got a bridge to sell you. Brain rot these days have people trusting grainy vids from randoms that a 8 year old can make.
@@jeje4131 that is a lot to expensive. i think it will be best 10% faster than a 4080, same Graphic Memory. means. the real features of the new chip, cant be really used in highter resolutions, because to less graphic memory. I think myself nvidia knows this, put the old line on the market first, before the 5090 coming, and sell it to some ppl what buy ecverything, if it is new. After this, they will rework 5080 to 20 or 24 gb vram, and release an updatet version.
That s what i think. in every situation, buying a 5080 is the most wrong way you can do.
theres a literal video and picture of the pricing of the card in a retail store. it was around 2k in costs
@@mastershadow3894 A random screenshot taken by some random person. Talk about brain rot, do you also believe in all those UFO sightings last week that turned out to be airplanes?
"Nvidia can't be serious" (about the pricing for the 5000 series)
This was said the previous generation too but people easily forget.
So yeah, they're more than serious, and people will still buy it. And they will continue to increase prices until people stop buying.
But last time we have to wait forever for inventory to replenish and prices were so high that people got tired of waiting and so just paid the high prices. Not this time..
@@ZacharySound sure keep telling yourself that. Gamers are impatient and incapable of standing by their word, look at all the boycotts that they've done...
Something says that the 50- Series is NOT gonna sell well...
The 5090 will sell like hotcakes because nothing will come close to it by quite a big margin. Even if gamers didn't buy them, businesses will gobble them up nigh instantly anyways.
The rest of the 50 series lineup though? Yeah. Not gonna sell well at all if the leaks are real.
with this level of price hiking I wouldnt be surprised in a decade if a top of the line pc you build yourself would cost you $10k. What i really want from Nvidia is to have a couple generations that they skip on trying to have huge gains in performance for having average to low end gains in performance, but instead focus on lowering the cost of the product. Which will probably never happen, since they are a company that strictly follows the money.
That just tells me that gaming and general productivity for my build is entirely out of the equation and they expect me to adopt 40 series at a reduced price instead.
Fingers crossed they're aren't gating the next iteration of DLSS behind these cards too.
Why wouldn't they keep the new DLSS behind their new product? They've pretty much done that every time.
@@tguit-fiddler5692 Fingers..........Crossed..........
15:38 glad you’re feeling better. Good health is one of those things you take for granted until you don’t have it.
yeah, pc gaming seems to be getting too expensive for me, i might be getting priced outta it, i am still running a ryzen 7 2700x and a rtx 2080
same. But I still need a desktop and I can't not have a functional GPU. Once my 1060 dies, I don't know if I'll have to settle for paying unreasonably more for something almost-decent, or paying the unreasonable minimum and getting an outdated potato. The good cards don't really reach our region at ok prices to begin with and I know the same is true for a lot of other places in the world too.
you should probably upgrade to a 5800x3d and just live off that for the next 4 years.
2070s here, i'm not playing any new games, i'm just chilling playing those indie games, or single player games these days. If im playing with friends, its usually some older game (2012-2020) anyways
The AI overlords don't care about the gamers that funded their genesis.
👍for the Streetlight Manifesto shirt!
I don't waste my time following the pricing on the upcoming Aston Martins or Bugattis anymore. The pricing on the Kia Tellurides is what is important to me.
exactly people dont get it 5090 = bugatti veyron and they think everyone can get this but its ultimate premium gpu you can buy so clearly it should cost alot if not premium it would be 250 bucks like b580 garbage
Jensen: "How to we get more people to buy our GPU with a 20% price hike?"
Nvidia Executive: "Leak a 35% price hike."
Jensen: "Do it."
Lisa Su: "Nvidia is raising prices, I guess we need to do the same."
more people have 4070=$600 than rx 7600=$300 and rx 7600xt. a lot of people buy Nvidia for the brand, just how people camp outside Apple to buy the new Iphone. but unlike phones that there's Samsung, there's no Samsung for GPU. even if AMD lowers price, people will still buy Nvidia. there are good alternatives to Iphone that don't cost, $1,400. people will buy Iphone cause of the brand. same applies to Nvidia. people understimate the brand more than they should when there are cases(like Apple) that you shouldn't. people just don't want to learn.
@@SapiaNt0mata/videos I doubt Nvidia could scare away the die hard fans if they tried.
My point is, if they release with a 20% price hike, a lot of media coverage may end up being "At least it's not 35%."
Anything more than 2k is just absolutely ridiculous, they have become 1 of the richest companies in the world from Ai. Theres no reason to gouge the average gamer no more than they already have
So the meta will be wait for 5080 super with 24 gb and 1k msrp , got it
Or get a used RX 7900 XTX for $700-900
@@AMDFan-s1yYou can get a new 7900xtx right now for 900 at microcenter.
Nahhh @@AMDFan-s1y
@@AMDFan-s1y Im waiting for the 7900xtx to drop to around 500. At least in the used market.
$1,200. 3080=$700. 4080=-$1,200. 5080 will be $1,500 US price, then they will release 5080 super at $1,200. sell 5080 first for $1,500, then release 5080 super for $1,200=4080 price.
Not sure if the 4060 instead of 5060 slip up was intentional or not but man that was perfect 😂
0:58 actually PNY doesnt have the 12vhpwr connector for their 4070 verto its just a single 8pin
I don't think any 4070 has the cursed connector
@ all 4070s but the PNY have the 12vhpwr connector for
The high end 5000-series are probably priced so that they can make a bundle selling technically non-enterprise powerful GPUs to restricted countries that want AI performance.
Why don't they just just XT60 high power connectors on cards? Since they work very well on high power battery connectors that are about the same size as the stupid 16 pin
"Just wait for the 50 Series" Pretty quiet now
I would rather 3x 8 pins than use the new connectors. NOT gonna waste my money on a card that has it
so you dont agree to new trends gl in the future
@@frallorfrallor3410 That's not a new trend, it's a bad standard that needs to be changed to something that can handle the power draw better. If you ask me, I think the form factor for GPU's needs to be revised completely. There is too much weight on the pcie slot with all of the cooling needed for devices with this kind of power draw.
I also refuse to buy NVIDIA, rip off company. The RX 5070 is looking to be a great deal for me.
Just a note for the editor(s) - the audio cue that was played whenever the vertical split popped up became quite annoying (for me). It felt a bit overused (even by halfway through the video) and disturbed my listening to the video as a background window. Thanks for all good work.
People that complain about these prices are the same people that complain about microtransactions in games. Enough people are buying this stuff to make the companies keep doing this. Until we stop buying this crap it will not stop.
yea honeslty there is noting to talk about whatever youtuber says dosnt matter once new tech is out you hav two option buy it or not buy it if you wait that mby most smart thing you can ever do
I remember back when my dad and I used to spec systems for our house and/or donating to our school in the early to mid-90s. Even un-adjusted for inflation they were often costing $3,000 for a system with no 3D GPU. Then prices kept coming down for years and now Nvidia is trying to get back up to that price for the GPU alone. It’s freaking ridiculous and nobody should be buying new NVidia GPUs at that price for gaming. $850 USD max for an 80-class GPU with 16GB VRAM (assuming adequate bandwidth) and $1,000 max for anything above that for gaming. Nobody should pay more than that unless they get it for work.
How many times are people gonna fuss about prices, but then turn around and buy it anyway lol.
here's where you make the mistake. people that make a fuss are not buyers. the buyers don't make a fuss. they shush and buy.
Random hard limits I have: Single fast food meal: $10. Video game: $40. Graphics card: $700.
The quality and quantity of everything i can buy in these limits is decreasing alarmingly fast.
Everyone speculating on Nvidia leaks, but no one seems to talk about AMD leaks, like their ''Nvidia from Wish'' new naming scheme, taking a leaf from the marketing books of all those ''Iphone 19 Pro's'' you can get on wish! 😂🤣
Nvidia: "We know you want to take mortgage just to get our precious product" :P
Love the Streetlight Manifesto shirt! Was just listening to "They Broke Him Down" earlier this morning. Always happy to see them get some love!
Keasby Nights over here 🤙🏽
The 5090 won't be a worthy upgrade. It would've been 48 gb vram
That wouldn't even make sense, games are not even utilizing 20gb even at 4k
@@Fluffball555only use i could see is potential VR or AI demands, both i’m interested in…
@@TheBonneter Well, both Nvidia and Amd have 48gb cards in that case
@@TheBonneter The Radeon pro wx 7900 is 3599$ on amazon
Nvidia leaks set people to expect doomsday prices so that actual prices don't feel as bad even though they're still a ripoff, AMD leaks set the expectation that it's gonna be this amazing product that will save us from Ngreedia only to disappoint even if it's still a better value product.
I will release my opinion on this matter on January 13th
If rtx 5090 is 60% faster/better than 4090 then price should be same. Otherwise it goes completely against their claim of progress! Stock will go down bad if the prices are that high.
Funny how things Karl Marx explained more than 100 years ago still shock some people
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I 100% prefer the old reliable PCI-E (6+2pin) 8pin power connector. New doesn't mean always better.
5080 16GB.....What are you trying to pull Ngreedia?!
More money from people who don't see anything other than Nvidia. Sounds like a good wake up call for people to check the alternatives.
It’s gonna be like the 12 gb 4080 that people hated
nGREEDIA's excuse: "Oh but, it will have way faster memory and some voodoo magic to compensate for the shit amount of vram GuYsS!"
Me: Are they serious?! In what way can you replace a hard hardware bottleneck with a few snake-oil software tricks?
They want you to run out or memory in 2 years and buy a new one, duh
@@MetallicBlade They want to make DLSS be the norm so you play one or more resolution levels lower and upscale it.
Though, I still prefer native.
0:00 "idney" ? Is this cut off for anyone else? I don't have any adblock thing that could cause that
He's saying "AMD"
I think that nVidia will, last second, up the price even more.
Remember, we haven't even accounted for the tariffs yet lol
@@HawkHogan_ Ya, I miss having US being a great place for pc gaming, and with the birdflu/defunding that will happen I don't think our eggs are getting any cheaper....
@@asdf30111 Try being up here in Canada lmao
Dark times for sure
not really surprising, without the ability to rely on die shrinks to net huge gains in performance while also reducing die sizes and improving yields, the price of the gpus will massively increases as the only way to improve performance is by either making the chips architecture way more efficient which often only made a very small improvement in the past or increasing how much power it consumes which is not ideal as it means it costs more to run, and require better cooler and we end up with bigger cards which are already huge. Another method would be a chiplet design and combining multiple smaller gpus together instead of trying to manufacture a large powerful chip, but it also has a lot of drawbacks.
*"Nah am buying GTX 1080ti After this"*
then you cannot play indinana jones game that is manatory raytraced game
ngreedia: price 1 tier higher, actual product 1 is tier lower.
Love the Tshirt. Takes me back to highschool
The only reason NVidia, AMD, and Intel are able to price things so high is because they have a monopoly on their chips, architecture, and other stuff related to their IP claim(intellectual property, which really should be called intellectual monopoly since the "property" part is objectively deceptive word play that ignores what actual property is). This is because IP makes it illegal to do what you want with your property by circumventing property norms that have existed since humanity... you know... had the concept of property. Property itself exists because resources are scarce and ultimately, being able to secure for yourself your own stuff tends to be better than having everyone contributing to the same pool because eventually people kinda realize they can munch off the labor of others instead of putting in actual effort resulting in those that do actually put their time in getting a fraction of the value of their efforts. Plus, collective decision making does not actually result in ALL the needs that people have being satisfied or them being satisfied effectively or efficiently. Hence, property exists. Intellectual monopoly (IM), however, puts a claim on a nontangible, non-scarce, concept and backs it up with state force. This is functionally equivalent to say that you can't think about, draw, design, or create a printer with your own resources or else we will take your stuff and put you in jail, and if you resist, we will bash your head in. And yes, the last part about executing the perpetrator is true. We generally do not punish IP violations with death (I dunno about other countries, but I digress), but because rules tend to only be enforceable with force (there is a reason why it is spelled that way).
There is an innate death threat with every rule and law the government creates because someone has to actually make arrests and people may not agree with the rule and may resist. The penalties for law violations described in our legal code or by judicial precedent exist because they are the first threat to violating legislation. The threat of force is for failing to face the original penalty.
It is equivalent to saying "If you take my stuff out of my store, I will slap your bum, take your money, and follow you until you we to your residence where I will pelt its exterior with tomatoes. If you steal my stuff and resist your humiliation, God will have a word with you, and I will ensure you hear it."
Because of that, we must be careful with what laws we create, because are literally saying we would kill to enforce them.
Back to IM, it cannot be considered property for the lack of claim to anything scarce or tangible. In truth, IM is really a way of circumventing actual property rights without actually provding a good reason for doing so. The IM "owner" doesn't own the metal from which you make your own car. They have neither a claim to optical disk they sold you or the data on it. The only way are able to make the claim is with a state-sponsored, monopoly-enforcement stick.
Worse yet, the main justification for this is to protect profits... But the profits in question are not real but hypothetical. They conjecture about the future, not realities of the present. Furthermore, since when does anyone have a right to another person's property until a transaction is made and completed. Property rights do not exist to protect a person or company's revenue projections or stock price. They can only justly protect that which one already owns. IM breaks this concept and claims an individual can own an idea, a concept alien to natural law and, realistically, wouldn't exist in common law either. At most, it may exist in private law, but even then, it would only affect those that willingly agree to it. And in all honesty, it probably wouldn't exist for long. Since it only affects those in the know that agreed to it. If someone outside the agreement comes to the knowledge of the concept being protected, there is no just claim upon which the agreement could continue without creating an extremely bizare set of rules, which, while one may technically agree too, the arrangement itself would become pointless. I could go on, but I suggest checkout out Stephen Kinsella and his work on the case against intellectual monopoly.
Back to subject to our current pricing situation. NVidia, AMD, and Intel are the only ones producing computer chips with their designs (excluding certain platforms, ie, mobile) because they have patents on their inventions (and copyright on some related stuff, i.e. drivers and firmware). They are encouraged to hold them for themselves and only license when it would improve their bottom line. Even then, they control what other companies can do with their chips, resulting in a lack of innovation and REAL chocie in the market. If we were to live in a world without IM, we would find that they would not only have more competition in creating chips at cheapter prices since other companies would be able to reverse engineeer their products, but also the cost of production going down as well, since the patents on the expensive machines that are used to create the chips for their products would not exist as well, meaning the actual price would go down siginificantly. The consumer would end up having far more meaningful choices regarding all parts of the hardware. Of course, the big three would still be able to have their club, but that club would not have complete control over the market. Furthermore, all competitors existing and new would be able to feed off of each other's designs since reverse engineering would be cheap and legal. Of course, some companies would have better assurances and quality than others but not everyone wants the highest quality components, particularly if they are cheap enough and their needs don't actually require 24/7 availability. Do you truely need the most reliable NEVERDIE(tm) rated graphics card when you are probably going to upgrade anyway to a new and faster one in 3-5 years? Also, the ability for bad practices and anti-consumer designs to affect the consumer would decrease since the company's reputation matters more in a market with many competitors, and, if that company cripples their lineup, a competitor would likely offer parts for a similar or cheaper price to win their market share away from them. And if they don't listen to reason... well the market will make them or put them out of business forever or until they get their act together. Furthermore, if a component is neutered third-parties may offer to upgrade these components.
TL;DR, **** IP.
Where is the progress then if price ain't decreasing?!?
4080 to the 5080 is not a significant increase...
I hope the lower end Blackwell GPUs AIB use 6/8pin connectors.
Doubt it coz Ngreedia mandated to be installed on ALL their products.
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I still can’t get over the 9070 XT, I need whatever AMD’s marketing team is smoking
Isn't it odd how people kept shitting on Radeon so nobody bought them and pre-build sellers never use Radeon so nobody sees them. Now Radeon has pulled out of the high end market and everyone gets to pay the price, now with a 37% markup.
RTX 5000 ADA (32GB ECC VRAM) costs around $4000 so there is no reason for nVidia to sell RTX 5090 (32GB VRAM) for less than half
If Nvidia put one power connector for 5090 it woll be most stupid work in history
Boycott Nvidia. This will force them to stop taking advantage of us consumers. AMD has great gpus and unless you have a productivity workload, do you really need a 5090? I have a nvidia gpu and I will not be going nvidia until they change. People you hold the power here. Please realize that.
Nvidia has 88% AIB market share. good luck with your boycott. saying to boycott nvidia is the equivalent of saying boycott Iphone. you cant.
Nvidia does not make most of their money from gamers, so good luck? We hold very very little power actually at least for with Nvidia. Also even when people had the power, the masses often fail to use it like they did with Netflix.
what you saying makes no sence at all lol, how do you think pleased nvidia users for long time will out of nowhere boicot this comapany becasue prices is steep when they had never a single issue gaming?your post is inrelavant sorry
Me with intel after seeing nvidia prices: Perhaps i treated you too harshly.
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Prices should be exactly half.
Companies will be buying these to run local AI
This is what we get for people buying thousand dollar GPUs. We reap what we sow.
Nvidia wants to sell all 40 series cards. Then, they may or may not, lower the 50 series prices.
It's not even that AMD has the chance to do something good for consumers, they've been in a position to make big market share gains in the GPU space and just absolutely fumbled every one. I dunno if the Radeon division is even responsible or if it's AMD corporate so to speak; but it really seems like instead of trying to take a bigger piece of the pie, they're very focused on matching Nvidia's moves. "Oh, look, they overpriced the 4060 and gave it 8GB of VRAM!? What stooges! We should do that with the 7600, but just be a little cheaper!"
I am surprised that no one is talking about the 9800x3d pricing. In Europe the price is around 700€ (730$) if you get a bargain. Many shops sell them well over 800€ (830$), easily getting to 1200€(1250$).
Microcenter near me has had them for msrp since launch.
£500 here in the UK
It doesn't matter if you buy the cards or not. Every tech reviewer, Twitch streamer and Scalper will without care of price.
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My issue is not that I can't afford new tech. My issue is that expensive new tech will keep old tech pricey.
Keep in mind, the prices in the article include vat
The specs of the 5090 so far aren't that much of an uplift from the 4090 right?
Apple's serious about their ridiculous prices ... NVdia is just attempting to rake in as much as they can before China catches up (which they already have).
Wait 2 years before buying a new GPU. Best advice I can give.
When your GPU's Power consumption starts evening out with your water heaters power consumption owning a PC of that caliber becomes just plain stupid.
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Video cards anymore make the $1000 Titan video cards look like a bargin.
viewing 5k series vids on youtube and reading comments is now more fun, cheaper and more entertaining than dropping more money on nvidia
Ironic how Intel game up with the ATX 3.0 (12VHPWR) standard and they don't even use it.
No matter how high the prices are, people are still buying.
people buy becasue they want not becasue they don want, if you dont want you dont buy
You don't need an upgrade every new generation.
as long as amd dont mess up the msrp this time round i dont see how nvidia can command a higher price for at least the lower end models.