i'm glad an mma fighter and analyst admitted to this fact before the fight even happened. Chael sonnen said '' i know for a fact floyd hits harder than conor ''
And can you believe that a lot of people where actually saying that Conor was going to be the hardest puncher that Mayweather had ever faced... are you kidding me... dude turned out 2 be one of the weakest. lol. Talk about being exposed.
Pierre P. Rougeau mayweather can't bang that hard but you could hear his blows hitting Connor but not the other way around...he don't have no snap or nuffin,he needed to train on how to correctly throw punches!
dazmane I wonder what people expected from this fight. I thought (well it makes sense to me) that a guy who has never boxed professionally or amateur going up against the best in in this generation wouldn't fare very well. I also don't get the 'us vs them' mentality. Why can't we enjoy both disciplines and appreciate the best in both.
I think the mma gloves are the biggest reason he has no power in boxing, getting hit with those things are like getting hit bare-knuckle, they are built to do damage, very small and even the way they are shaped around the knuckle, also they don't have handwraps underneath so pretty much anyone can ko somebody wearing mma gloves, Imagine putting Wilder, Joshua, GGG, Canelo, garcia or Kovelev in those mma gloves, heads would be rolling
The thing to remember here is that Conor thought he was a massive puncher and the look of disbelieve when Floyd took all his shots was priceless. Lets not forget he had deluded himself into thinking that Paulie was concussed, why? because he could not finish Paulie . I'm sure he his camp also helped this delusion by reassuring Conor that he was wearing 16oz gloves and that Paulie had headgear on . Make no mistakes Conor had probably stopped a few of is sparring partners such as Tiernan Bradley and probably gave Dashon Johnson a few headaches but the Paulie thing bothered him, that's why he was giving a bit of respect to Paulie about lasting the sparring session calling Paulie "tough" This fight was all about Conors ego and now it has been shattered we can only wait and see if Conor becomes a better man because of it or if this fight has destroyed one of his best assets (mentality/confidence)
i'm sure being set for life financially with soften the blow son, and if he goes back to the octagon and starts murking people again it'll all be forgotten about, Conor was never expected to land a shot according to max kellerman, so he over achieved in the eyes of the boxing world, there was no shame in his performance, he just got out classed by the greatest to ever lace up boxing gloves, now he has a 100 million in the bank with his integrity still in tact, as long as he goes back to his own sport and continues to dominate nobody will care
kiely 456 Conor can retire today and be a happy man...he was already wealthy even before the 100 mill he got from floyd...Guy fought from the bottom to a fight with Money May...Cant hate on that.
Mike he was wealthy but not set for life wealthy, now Him and his family never have to worry about money again providing he makes wise financial decisions
Conor was outclassed, if you honestly think he wasn't mate then there's little point in us continuing this debate, because it shows your lack of understanding of the game, Conor did well for his limited boxing ability, i was never one of those people who thought he'd not land a glove on floyd, i knew some of his attributes would give him success in patches of the fight, the fact he was the bigger man, had height and reach on floyd, his energy and unorthodox stance would need time to adjust to, and thats exactly what happened, but as soon as floyd made those adjustments, his far superior skills and cardio took over, if you honestly think conor would have won that fight on points should it have gone 12 i don't know what to say to you lad lol
Reasons why Conor is a big puncher in mma : 1) 4oz gloves 2) mma fighters take hits to the head less (don't full contact spar as often and train wrestling, BJJ, leg kicks etc) 3)a lot of his opponents don't know how to defend and often run in head first e.g aldo and Alvarez
glove weight doesn't increase power lolllll it just protects the hands the power is the same go watch scientific testing, all it is is the force concentration is more so its directed at a singular point which makes fighters fall easier but not hurt more lollll, mma fighters don't take less hits that point contradicts your 1st and 3rd point in itself, it should mean they have a better chin because they've taken less damage, its not hard to see that compare to boxers he has no power because he simply doesn't know how to transfer his bodyweight through all his shots and an opponent not knowing how to defend themselves doesn't mean hes a big puncher infact that's an argument against him being a big puncher, the truth is all mma fighters are not big punchers in comparison to boxers and that's a fact, boxers could destroy all mma fighters in stand up combat of any kind that doesn't involve kicking, grappeling or submission
Agree, MMA fans say boxers don't stand a chance in MMA, but a guy like triple-G would be incredibly dangerous, he punches just as hard (maybe even harder) as an MMA heavyweight. If he caught someone like conor on the chin with 4oz gloves on he would be sleeping b4 he even started falling down.
Imagine the carnage if GGG was an MMA fighter... I'd pay good money to see him fight Kevin Lee in a bare knuckle boxing match. He would literally break his face
yeah I dont think floyd showed any respect for McGregors power or technique, he spoke with respect, but the way he stood square on in his face and walked through his shots for the whole fight said something entirely different. It reminded me of the pawing little arm punches and casual jabs people like tyson fury throw, not that tyson cant put his weight behind a shot, hes just being awkward and farming points, keeping people off their game. But he didnt have the skill of tyson where hes outmaneuvering you, outboxing you, able to take it the 12 rounds without rly getting hit that much in order to cash in those scorecard punches at the end.
Good point. First couple of rounds when he was doing OK he reminded me of Fury as well. Good, fluid natural movement and reflexes, but unorthodox and weird, wrong for boxing - his height advantage was allowong him to slip a shot by just leaning away on pure reflexive raw instinct. Then he got tired and had absolutely no defence because he has no fundamentals
I knew something was up with Conors supposed power, when an out of shape, washed up Paulie went 20 rounds of sparring with Conor and all they could produce was a little push on Paulie.
And let's face it - the clean left hand they edited into that footage only proved that Paulie could take McGregor's best shot flush on the chin without wobbling...
What's insane is all the major media outlets are praising Conor and overlooking all these important facts and data. Conor came in jusat light heavy weight and Floyd had better cardio than a prime MMA guy after a 2 year layoff. Walked right through him.
Even Conor's coach Kavanagh conceded DAYS ago that the padding *on the knuckle* of a 4oz MMA glove is negligable compared to a 8 oz glove (where the extra weight is mainly about leather elsewhere on the glove). MMA fighters also concede boxers hit harder due to the nature of the sport : i..e. 24 / 7 punching requirements only / better stance aiding better punch technique - alongside better hand protection.
This makes me wonder AJ chances in ufc, since most heavyweights there predominantly box (cain, werdum excluded). All it would take is one shot from AJ. But this is just heavyweights, The guys in other divisions are way more skilled
Agree but no-one would stand with him, they'd just take his legs straight away and AJ even said himself he'd get found out on the floor, strictly stand up though, joshua would ko the lot of them in 4oz gloves. Mayweather would be considered a monster puncher in mma because he clearly hits harder then conor and conor has like a 90% ko ratio in mma, so imagine someone with a 90% + ko ratio in boxing with those little mma mitts that are basically bareknuckle
Dillian would do really well in MMA I think, he was a European level kickboxer, his stand up will be light years ahead of most of of the UFC's HW's, get some good take down defense behind him and he would likely make run at the title in no time, his trash talk, persona and the fact he's a Boxer at heart would sell fights
HA, I said this until I was blue in the face before the fight. Floyd was always the puncher going into this, why? Because McGregor does NOT have the technique. McGregor can 'strike' but this is not the same as punching in boxing, boxing punching is fully optimised for power, striking is not, as a result McGregor was throwing nothing but arm punches.
Spot on Hatman. I always predicted that Floyd would win by stoppage because punching in a boxing ring is totally different to punching in MMA. I have to admit Conor really impressed me in the first few rounds, and fair play to him for starting so well in his FIRST EVER boxing match - against arguably the best boxer ever too. I do think that he gave Floyd a little trouble at times but when Floyd figured him out it was usual Floyd Mayweather...plus i think the fatigue on Conor's part did play a huge part in things...but yeah Floyd wasn't really hurt in there because Conor's punches in 8oz gloves are vastly different to his 4oz punches in MMA. Massive respect to Conor on his boxing debut to go 10 rounds with Floyd Mayweather tho!
I think Conor does have power, the problem is he hasn't been schooled from a very young age in how to administer it from a boxing stance, he doesn't have that muscle memory that's developed over years and years, Striking in mma is very different because your throwing shots from a much further distance which Conor has done all his life so he knows how to get leverage on his shots from that range which generates the power he's shown in the octagon, and this is no disrespect to mma fighters but most of them have very limited ability when it comes to striking, no defence or lateral movement so landing flush on those guys is much easier
yeah, and also lets not forget, he was fighting Floyd mayweather, who will probably go down in the history books as the greatest defensive fighter of all time, world elite boxers could barely land on him let alone an MMA fighter with limited ability, what i saw from conor looked fairly decent actually since he's never fought professionally in a ring before, he had a fairly decent jab, good movement and he's pretty accurate with his shot selection, he just needs to work on his cardio and pacing rounds better, if he did decide to stay in boxing and fight paulie i'd give him more than a realistic chance on winning, Paulie is nowhere near as quick or slick as he was, and even in his prime he got hit way to much,
kiely 456 the problem is why is a 170 plus pound guy fighting welterweights? Floyd and Paulie both started from lower classes. Paulie retired and has no power. Why is Conor not fighting Canelo? That would make a lot of money. The problem is Conor knows HE WOULD GET KILLED. So NO ..... he should just go back to UFC and complete his kinda weird legacy he traded for money. Can't blame him I guess
The power that you have vs your ability to land are two separate things. Its like taking a badminton player and putting him up against Andy Murray, then saying he cant smash. It was his first fight, and boxing as a format is an olympic sport built for the long haul. Its not a punching contest where you land a free shot then your opponent does and the last man standing wins. I know we boxing fans are loyal to the sport keen to tout its superiority, but I don't think we should criticise.
Jon Nathan that's pretty odd to say the least, simply because he-Golovkin has never stepped foot in a cage ever!!!! But, if Golovkin ever did connect to a CHIN with 4.oz gloves on.. Than yeah, he'll have 1 punch KO POWER inside of the UFC each time he lands flush.. Despite being very slow!!!!!
zGJungle ZG listen, don't sit up here and be a grown man crying about something that little, but true!!!! Golovkin is a good solid fighter no doubt about it.. But everything he does inside of the ring is slow period!!!! That's not a knock on him as in a bad way, it's just the reality of things point blank period!!!! He's a solid fighter yes, However, his movement is slow, he-triple G cuts off the ring in a slow posture while applying uncomfortable steady constant pressure.. Also, his footwork is slow, but he has solid balance & well timed positioning, so he rarely if ever gets reckless/sloppy or lunges in.. As well as having good punching power in the process!!!! Sorry, that's just who Golovkin is and how he fights.. Whether you like it or not.. You must want me to really sit here and give you false information to things you just wanna here!!!! As in, oh, triple G has quick hands, fast reflexes, impeccable head movement, great footwork, and extremely athletic!!!! Lol.. I'm sorry to hurt your feelings for not lying to you.. But just about 90/95% of everything he-Golovkin does is slow and for the most part his way of fighting!!! His style, his rhythm, & his pace!!!! Although being fast or having quick attributes is not TRIPLE G'S game.. He's still a solid champion and a good fighter.. So please, stop crying over something so dumb and learn to separate your sensitive side from social media.. & try not to get so caught up and emotionally attached to these fighters dude!!!!🤔💯
For starters I'm not emotionally attached to any Boxer, 2nd I'm saying he is not slow purely on what I have seen, sure he's not Amir khan fast but he is not slow, average with speed maybe yes. Also you should drop this whole saying I'm crying and being sensitive for asking a question, if any thing you have now come across like a sensitive bitch for taking a question so personally that you feel the need to insult and make assumptions that make no sense based upon what you are replying too.
Rigondeux and Loma could go in the ring at 130 against a 170 McGregor and could both smash McGregor to bits. His punching looked shite against Mayweather, Mayweather was smiling at every shot McGregor threw at him.
one thing that people seemed to have missed in the lead in to this fight was that CM's losses in MMA have all come from boxers making him tire and get desperate, then submitting him. those fights show he doesnt have very good technique and relies on countering grappling to get KOs.
HatmanSB, Mayweather had to stretch the fight to give the supporters something of worth. Mayweather played with him, exactly i said he would. In MMA, it's the gloves that gives the power.
A debut boxer just went 10 rounds with TBE. Mcgregor was counter punching Mayweather with ease early on and won 4 rounds. Mcgregor could easily transition into a boxer with more experience. Arm punches don't work as well because of the larger gloves. Easy adjustment to make is just to pace himself and pick his shots. The boxing community should give him respect.
I am a Connor fan but I have to be honest his punches looked like pita pata punches. But then again I wasn't getting hit. Totally disappointed with the build up and the fight. Connor please don't box again.
Sambo Elguapo yea I'm not a Conor fan but I find him witty and a great character but I love boxing and what I saw was very disappointing especially after the power left hand hype. Real let down I felt bad for conor
I feel like his punch technique too isn't that good, it doesn't have to be as good in mma cause you can't position you body perfectly for it cause of threat of takedowns.
mcregor spent most of the fight going backwards trying to throw which was dificult to generate power he also threw his better punches whilst coming foward on almost tip toe his feet were not grounded and planted atall . i noticed this during the fight hes almost on tip toe when throwing coming forward so hence lack of power
Other than what u said hatman there is a couple more reasons why Mcregor's power don't translate over to boxing. In Mma you can't stand with your lead leg out so far like in boxing is because you get leg kicked or taken down with a single leg. So for this reason his stance is mma is not for generating the most amount of power. Other than the Jose Aldo fight all Mcregor's knockouts came againts grapplers who have terrible stand up skills even for mma standards. Mayweather kept saying Mcregor is undefeated in stand-up in mma but that was absolutely not true. In the first Diaz fight the exact same thing happened like in the Mayweather fight. Mcregor threw everything at Diaz but Diaz was able to weather the strorm and then in the second round he boxer Mcregor up. Diaz caught Mcregor with a beautiful jab cross with stunned Mcregor who then initiated the takedown to basically get choked out rather then get knocked out. He didn't have the option to tap out againts Mayweather and we see what happened.
Conor didn't know how to put his weight behind his punches, he was throwing arm punches. He needs a good trainer, it reminded me of the punches Loma was throwing early on in the Salido fight, but I don't think he'll be back in boxing anytime soon. I wouldn't mind the Paulie fight, that would be a hyped fight. Conor was moving Floyd's body from the body shots, I think he could improve his power, power comes from timing and technique, I think Conor doesn't have those at world level, but he can be taught.
More proof to your point though was with that uppercut he landed on Floyd how it really didn't faze Floyd at all. Compare that to when Kell Brook who landed that shot on GGG and lifted him up a bit. Like a Conor vs someone his size like an Errol Spence or a Kell Brook would get killed.
I'd imagine the difference is being able to set up clean punches, 1 being mma fighters have a lesser boxing ability naturally than professional boxers, 2 being able to use other skills to create openings. Although yea he clearly doesnt have the same power as a canelo or ggg.
Do you remember? "A champion should be able to compete from one fighting style to another. "Connor can now get the fook out of here. Boxing ran his ass out not the other way around.
McGregor was never a big puncher in mma terms either, in the UFC at least its only really Aldo that he knocked out with 1 punch. He then gave off one of his most quoted quotes, precision beats power, and timing beats speed. He knows himself that he isnt a 1 punch ko artist, but his striking, at least in MMA, is clean and precise and most guys cant live with it. Floyd was just far more precise, which although i hoped for different this result was always inevitable.
Good Point with 8 ounce Gloves u can throw ur hips body into it, 4 ounce u got open fingers only knuckle padding,I tried both it's different when u can try yourself
I always thought Conor would have less power in boxing gloves as oppose to the ones in mma. One just needs to 'think' about it. Money just walked him down laughing. Imagine if Conor tried to punch harder. This guy would be gassed before round 1. Not made for boxing at all but good try. Hats of to Hatmanstrikesback. Always a logical thinker.
I think a big factor when it comes to Fame and being the "best" in MMA compared to boxing, MMA a good streak is 4 wins, look at Mcgregor i believe hes on 2 or 3 loss out of 30 or so MMA fights? Boxers on the other hand have to go 30-0 just to get a title shot. Theres such a difference in skill between mid to top level boxers compared to mid to top level MMA fighters. I just googled it, Conors MMA record 21-3. Put that in boxing standards.
I disagree Conors condition needs to improve significantly so he has more energy and he needs to transition in to boxing better by putting his weight into the shots rather than throwing arm punches.
He didn't really throw any power shots though, why I'm not sure. I thinks it's a mix of not getting his timing and range plus he obviously went in there to box NOT knock him out because I presume he knew he had to pace his self. If Nate Diaz says he's a big puncher then I'll take his word for it. Where he excels though is his placement, which we saw, he had no problem scoring points. Name a fighter in the UFC with a bad chin who hasn't been found out, just one? You telling me Anthony Johnson only knocks guys out due to the gloves?
yh when mcgreogr counter punches guys that dont box they are really shocked because they dont see punches like that in boxing its different you have to have some pop on your punches cos people are used to whats coming and the bigger gloves u cant just touch people and sleep them effortlessly. and hatman i totaly agree imagine him against guys at 154 lmao he shouldnt think he can compete at a high level just because he countered floyd a few times with no power in the shots lol
i wouldn't like a dig off him, but no, he has no power as far as elite pro boxers are concerned. He could probably ko a few low level journeymen but he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone in the top 20, bare in mind there was an exemption made that he could fight floyd in 8's, if he was fighting at middlewieght or junior middlewieght he would be wearing 10's which would decrease his power even more.
i agree hatman about confidence but that can get you hurt cos imagine he was fighting someone like canelo going in with that confidence would probably be bordering on being delusional lol like paulie said you have to realise who you are when you box what type of fighter what you can do being delusional can get you really hurt cos canelo would break mcgregors jaw lol
McGregor had to be at least 170 in that fight and looked horrible against an old Floyd coming off a 2 yr retirement...he punches like a girl after all that fucking mouth..he needs to stay out of boxing period.
I wouldn't say Conor got him with his best shots, he caught him with some good ones but not his best ones... Floyd can take a shot too, he's proved that throughout his career
I'd love to see Conor Mcgregor fight Triple-G in boxing. GGG ain't technically as sound as Floyd, but he's a hell of a lot bigger and punches a hell of a lot harder, He has a better chin and he's a better pressure fighter. If connor can be walked down by Floyd Mayweather who was half his size and twice his age, then GGG would have him pinned to the ropes in no time where he would unleash those monster power shots of which connor would of felt nothing like in his life, i give him 3 rounds if he runs, if he stands and fights he won't last one minute
Fight was FIXED Mcgregor and Mayweather made millions by fixing the fight! Mc Gregor did not try to put much power in his punches! He did not want to hurt Mayweather, tenth round stoppage was planned, Mayweather got his friends to bet on the tenth round so did Mc Gregor.
And u forget this is his debut as a pro at the age of 30 with Floyd ur biased cant believe it (you think he takes connor left hand with UFC gloves?) you have alot more work to do as specialist ... you have to use ur imagination thats the point of this mach .. he doesn't lean in to his shots because he does not telegraph his shots , the punch you dont see are the punches that hurt you so why lean in to the shot?.. yes i agree the chins in boxing are better but imagine he learns to sit on his shots?
mmmfighters are wide open and tend to leav there chins out in the air, because they look at the body and look to land kicks, anyone can knock someone out with there chin out in the air
I thought it was jus me !!!...through out that fight I kept wondering how come those big shots I couldn't hear nothing but when mayweather hit him I could hear it!!!it looks like he jus throws his punch from the arms and doesn't set him self up to throw
Thurman, Danny Garcia and Porter would destroy him. Spence and Crawford would put him straight to the canvass for keeps Just imagine what Eubank Jr would do to that utter clown never mind Canelo and Golovkin. Kell Brook would have him for breakfast and Amir Khan would take him apart. Paulie himself has more power then McGregor.
the fight was fixed mc gregor was pulling his shots and even a gut who exposed it got killed check it out online dont hate they both made money that's it
''I AM BOXING'' - Connor Mcgregor. Boxing record: 0-1
Richard Staggie which other boxer has made over 100 mill in their first fight?
Hassan Mohammed does that legitimize his statement tho ? boxing is about money ???
Hassan Mohammed don't get it twisted.... He made about 30...u think he's gna earn that really? Floyd will get double woteva mcflopper earns full stop
fighter mate.. not a boxer, I think that's been established .. which other chancer has made 100 mil.. just mc tapper
PC BEAST Nvidia err the best boxer ever is called Floyd MONEY Mayweather. You don't even know your own sport lmao
Floyd did a great job making the fight look competitive LOL, a lot of people actually thought Conor was doing a great job
this is 100 percent true and i wanted conor to win just because i cant stand Mayweather, FM laughed his way thro the fight.
i'm glad an mma fighter and analyst admitted to this fact before the fight even happened. Chael sonnen said '' i know for a fact floyd hits harder than conor ''
And can you believe that a lot of people where actually saying that Conor was going to be the hardest puncher that Mayweather had ever faced... are you kidding me... dude turned out 2 be one of the weakest. lol. Talk about being exposed.
Pierre P. Rougeau mayweather can't bang that hard but you could hear his blows hitting Connor but not the other way around...he don't have no snap or nuffin,he needed to train on how to correctly throw punches!
dazmane I wonder what people expected from this fight. I thought (well it makes sense to me) that a guy who has never boxed professionally or amateur going up against the best in in this generation wouldn't fare very well.
I also don't get the 'us vs them' mentality. Why can't we enjoy both disciplines and appreciate the best in both.
I think the mma gloves are the biggest reason he has no power in boxing, getting hit with those things are like getting hit bare-knuckle, they are built to do damage, very small and even the way they are shaped around the knuckle, also they don't have handwraps underneath so pretty much anyone can ko somebody wearing mma gloves, Imagine putting Wilder, Joshua, GGG, Canelo, garcia or Kovelev in those mma gloves, heads would be rolling
whatever mann I was one of those people. Just shows how people can be fooled!
@@mradamsmith9365 they do have hand wraps under the gloves
Mayweather carried him
Hamish Addenz 100% it only last 10 rounds because mayweather let it.
Hamish Addenz everyone sees it but McGregor fans smh
Topu Rahman WHATEVER! WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
The thing to remember here is that Conor thought he was a massive puncher and the look of disbelieve when Floyd took all his shots was priceless.
Lets not forget he had deluded himself into thinking that Paulie was concussed, why? because he could not finish Paulie .
I'm sure he his camp also helped this delusion by reassuring Conor that he was wearing 16oz gloves and that Paulie had headgear on . Make no mistakes Conor had probably stopped a few of is sparring partners such as Tiernan Bradley and probably gave Dashon Johnson a few headaches but the Paulie thing bothered him, that's why he was giving a bit of respect to Paulie about lasting the sparring session calling Paulie "tough"
This fight was all about Conors ego and now it has been shattered we can only wait and see if Conor becomes a better man because of it or if this fight has destroyed one of his best assets (mentality/confidence)
i'm sure being set for life financially with soften the blow son, and if he goes back to the octagon and starts murking people again it'll all be forgotten about, Conor was never expected to land a shot according to max kellerman, so he over achieved in the eyes of the boxing world, there was no shame in his performance, he just got out classed by the greatest to ever lace up boxing gloves, now he has a 100 million in the bank with his integrity still in tact, as long as he goes back to his own sport and continues to dominate nobody will care
kiely 456 Conor can retire today and be a happy man...he was already wealthy even before the 100 mill he got from floyd...Guy fought from the bottom to a fight with Money May...Cant hate on that.
hagler10033 lmao, well were you expecting anything else you numpty, you're missing the point of my comment
Mike he was wealthy but not set for life wealthy, now Him and his family never have to worry about money again providing he makes wise financial decisions
Conor was outclassed, if you honestly think he wasn't mate then there's little point in us continuing this debate, because it shows your lack of understanding of the game, Conor did well for his limited boxing ability, i was never one of those people who thought he'd not land a glove on floyd, i knew some of his attributes would give him success in patches of the fight, the fact he was the bigger man, had height and reach on floyd, his energy and unorthodox stance would need time to adjust to, and thats exactly what happened, but as soon as floyd made those adjustments, his far superior skills and cardio took over, if you honestly think conor would have won that fight on points should it have gone 12 i don't know what to say to you lad lol
Reasons why Conor is a big puncher in mma : 1) 4oz gloves
2) mma fighters take hits to the head less (don't full contact spar as often and train wrestling, BJJ, leg kicks etc)
3)a lot of his opponents don't know how to defend and often run in head first e.g aldo and Alvarez
Dan The man 4oz is nothing
Pretty Boy Flizzy that's the whole point it makes it seem he hits harder than he does
Timing is the most pivotal factor in my opinion.
Dan The man nah.. mma fighters are drug cheats with weak chins
glove weight doesn't increase power lolllll it just protects the hands the power is the same go watch scientific testing, all it is is the force concentration is more so its directed at a singular point which makes fighters fall easier but not hurt more lollll, mma fighters don't take less hits that point contradicts your 1st and 3rd point in itself, it should mean they have a better chin because they've taken less damage, its not hard to see that compare to boxers he has no power because he simply doesn't know how to transfer his bodyweight through all his shots and an opponent not knowing how to defend themselves doesn't mean hes a big puncher infact that's an argument against him being a big puncher, the truth is all mma fighters are not big punchers in comparison to boxers and that's a fact, boxers could destroy all mma fighters in stand up combat of any kind that doesn't involve kicking, grappeling or submission
golovkin would shattter peoples jaws and break his own hands in 4oz gloves lol
MrWarmanG golovkin with 4 oz gloves will be scary. He has an iron chin too.
Agree, MMA fans say boxers don't stand a chance in MMA, but a guy like triple-G would be incredibly dangerous, he punches just as hard (maybe even harder) as an MMA heavyweight. If he caught someone like conor on the chin with 4oz gloves on he would be sleeping b4 he even started falling down.
Richard Staggie yeah the reason is they would aim to impose their game plans outside of punching range
Imagine the carnage if GGG was an MMA fighter... I'd pay good money to see him fight Kevin Lee in a bare knuckle boxing match. He would literally break his face
MrWarmanG ggg used to street fight so he would not be out of his depth but he would destroy anyone with 4 oz gloves.
yeah I dont think floyd showed any respect for McGregors power or technique, he spoke with respect, but the way he stood square on in his face and walked through his shots for the whole fight said something entirely different. It reminded me of the pawing little arm punches and casual jabs people like tyson fury throw, not that tyson cant put his weight behind a shot, hes just being awkward and farming points, keeping people off their game. But he didnt have the skill of tyson where hes outmaneuvering you, outboxing you, able to take it the 12 rounds without rly getting hit that much in order to cash in those scorecard punches at the end.
Good point. First couple of rounds when he was doing OK he reminded me of Fury as well. Good, fluid natural movement and reflexes, but unorthodox and weird, wrong for boxing - his height advantage was allowong him to slip a shot by just leaning away on pure reflexive raw instinct. Then he got tired and had absolutely no defence because he has no fundamentals
McGregor hasn't got one punch KO power. He has power but it's the amalgam of timing and speed that enhance it's effects.
where do you get your background clips from ?smh... lol
He's not even a big puncher in mma. He has one legit KO, and he also has weight advantage there too.
I knew something was up with Conors supposed power, when an out of shape, washed up Paulie went 20 rounds of sparring with Conor and all they could produce was a little push on Paulie.
And let's face it - the clean left hand they edited into that footage only proved that Paulie could take McGregor's best shot flush on the chin without wobbling...
exactly
What's insane is all the major media outlets are praising Conor and overlooking all these important facts and data. Conor came in jusat light heavy weight and Floyd had better cardio than a prime MMA guy after a 2 year layoff. Walked right through him.
Even Conor's coach Kavanagh conceded DAYS ago that the padding *on the knuckle* of a 4oz MMA glove is negligable compared to a 8 oz glove (where the extra weight is mainly about leather elsewhere on the glove).
MMA fighters also concede boxers hit harder due to the nature of the sport : i..e. 24 / 7 punching requirements only / better stance aiding better punch technique - alongside better hand protection.
HatmanStrikesBack this is why I love you always keeping it real!
GGG with 4oz gloves. we gonna get some broken jaws and foreheads.
And his own fists.
This makes me wonder AJ chances in ufc, since most heavyweights there predominantly box (cain, werdum excluded). All it would take is one shot from AJ. But this is just heavyweights, The guys in other divisions are way more skilled
Agree but no-one would stand with him, they'd just take his legs straight away and AJ even said himself he'd get found out on the floor, strictly stand up though, joshua would ko the lot of them in 4oz gloves. Mayweather would be considered a monster puncher in mma because he clearly hits harder then conor and conor has like a 90% ko ratio in mma, so imagine someone with a 90% + ko ratio in boxing with those little mma mitts that are basically bareknuckle
Joe Joyce but that's his point most ufc heavyweights just throw hands and he would be one of the biggest and strongest in there
They might be stand up fighters but believe me their game plans would switch up very quickly when they are face 2 face with AJ.
Dillian would do really well in MMA I think, he was a European level kickboxer, his stand up will be light years ahead of most of of the UFC's HW's, get some good take down defense behind him and he would likely make run at the title in no time, his trash talk, persona and the fact he's
a Boxer at heart would sell fights
HA, I said this until I was blue in the face before the fight. Floyd was always the puncher going into this, why? Because McGregor does NOT have the technique. McGregor can 'strike' but this is not the same as punching in boxing, boxing punching is fully optimised for power, striking is not, as a result McGregor was throwing nothing but arm punches.
Imagine if Spence jr fought him?
Vinnie Durrant a televised execution.
Dayum!, hurts even thinking about it 👊
Vinnie Durrant knock a hole through his body
He's actually closer to GGGs weight and he'd never box again after boxing him.
Spot on Hatman. I always predicted that Floyd would win by stoppage because punching in a boxing ring is totally different to punching in MMA. I have to admit Conor really impressed me in the first few rounds, and fair play to him for starting so well in his FIRST EVER boxing match - against arguably the best boxer ever too. I do think that he gave Floyd a little trouble at times but when Floyd figured him out it was usual Floyd Mayweather...plus i think the fatigue on Conor's part did play a huge part in things...but yeah Floyd wasn't really hurt in there because Conor's punches in 8oz gloves are vastly different to his 4oz punches in MMA. Massive respect to Conor on his boxing debut to go 10 rounds with Floyd Mayweather tho!
I think Conor does have power, the problem is he hasn't been schooled from a very young age in how to administer it from a boxing stance, he doesn't have that muscle memory that's developed over years and years, Striking in mma is very different because your throwing shots from a much further distance which Conor has done all his life so he knows how to get leverage on his shots from that range which generates the power he's shown in the octagon, and this is no disrespect to mma fighters but most of them have very limited ability when it comes to striking, no defence or lateral movement so landing flush on those guys is much easier
kiely 456 exactly. His size alone shows you he has power. He's simply not a boxer. Not been trained to perfect his punch
yeah, and also lets not forget, he was fighting Floyd mayweather, who will probably go down in the history books as the greatest defensive fighter of all time, world elite boxers could barely land on him let alone an MMA fighter with limited ability, what i saw from conor looked fairly decent actually since he's never fought professionally in a ring before, he had a fairly decent jab, good movement and he's pretty accurate with his shot selection, he just needs to work on his cardio and pacing rounds better, if he did decide to stay in boxing and fight paulie i'd give him more than a realistic chance on winning, Paulie is nowhere near as quick or slick as he was, and even in his prime he got hit way to much,
kiely 456 the problem is why is a 170 plus pound guy fighting welterweights? Floyd and Paulie both started from lower classes. Paulie retired and has no power. Why is Conor not fighting Canelo? That would make a lot of money. The problem is Conor knows HE WOULD GET KILLED. So NO ..... he should just go back to UFC and complete his kinda weird legacy he traded for money. Can't blame him I guess
agreed . like Hatman states . punch resistance in MMA + the lightness of the 4oz gloves.
The power that you have vs your ability to land are two separate things. Its like taking a badminton player and putting him up against Andy Murray, then saying he cant smash. It was his first fight, and boxing as a format is an olympic sport built for the long haul. Its not a punching contest where you land a free shot then your opponent does and the last man standing wins. I know we boxing fans are loyal to the sport keen to tout its superiority, but I don't think we should criticise.
GGG can kill Tyron in MMA fight easily
Jon Nathan that's pretty odd to say the least, simply because he-Golovkin has never stepped foot in a cage ever!!!! But, if Golovkin ever did connect to a CHIN with 4.oz gloves on.. Than yeah, he'll have 1 punch KO POWER inside of the UFC each time he lands flush.. Despite being very slow!!!!!
Explain how Golovkin is ' very slow ' ? Maybe not super fast but in no way slow.
zGJungle ZG listen, don't sit up here and be a grown man crying about something that little, but true!!!! Golovkin is a good solid fighter no doubt about it.. But everything he does inside of the ring is slow period!!!! That's not a knock on him as in a bad way, it's just the reality of things point blank period!!!! He's a solid fighter yes, However, his movement is slow, he-triple G cuts off the ring in a slow posture while applying uncomfortable steady constant pressure.. Also, his footwork is slow, but he has solid balance & well timed positioning, so he rarely if ever gets reckless/sloppy or lunges in.. As well as having good punching power in the process!!!! Sorry, that's just who Golovkin is and how he fights.. Whether you like it or not.. You must want me to really sit here and give you false information to things you just wanna here!!!! As in, oh, triple G has quick hands, fast reflexes, impeccable head movement, great footwork, and extremely athletic!!!! Lol.. I'm sorry to hurt your feelings for not lying to you.. But just about 90/95% of everything he-Golovkin does is slow and for the most part his way of fighting!!! His style, his rhythm, & his pace!!!! Although being fast or having quick attributes is not TRIPLE G'S game.. He's still a solid champion and a good fighter.. So please, stop crying over something so dumb and learn to separate your sensitive side from social media.. & try not to get so caught up and emotionally attached to these fighters dude!!!!🤔💯
For starters I'm not emotionally attached to any Boxer, 2nd I'm saying he is not slow purely on what I have seen, sure he's not Amir khan fast but he is not slow, average with speed maybe yes. Also you should drop this whole saying I'm crying and being sensitive for asking a question, if any thing you have now come across like a sensitive bitch for taking a question so personally that you feel the need to insult and make assumptions that make no sense based upon what you are replying too.
Tyron is an elite wrestler, if he's smart, he'll take down GGG.
Rigondeux and Loma could go in the ring at 130 against a 170 McGregor and could both smash McGregor to bits. His punching looked shite against Mayweather, Mayweather was smiling at every shot McGregor threw at him.
one thing that people seemed to have missed in the lead in to this fight was that CM's losses in MMA have all come from boxers making him tire and get desperate, then submitting him. those fights show he doesnt have very good technique and relies on countering grappling to get KOs.
HatmanSB, Mayweather had to stretch the fight to give the supporters something of worth. Mayweather played with him, exactly i said he would. In MMA, it's the gloves that gives the power.
A debut boxer just went 10 rounds with TBE. Mcgregor was counter punching Mayweather with ease early on and won 4 rounds. Mcgregor could easily transition into a boxer with more experience. Arm punches don't work as well because of the larger gloves. Easy adjustment to make is just to pace himself and pick his shots. The boxing community should give him respect.
mcgregor is a bad boxer, needs to go back to ufc
I am a Connor fan but I have to be honest his punches looked like pita pata punches. But then again I wasn't getting hit. Totally disappointed with the build up and the fight. Connor please don't box again.
Sambo Elguapo yea I'm not a Conor fan but I find him witty and a great character but I love boxing and what I saw was very disappointing especially after the power left hand hype. Real let down I felt bad for conor
I feel like his punch technique too isn't that good, it doesn't have to be as good in mma cause you can't position you body perfectly for it cause of threat of takedowns.
mcregor spent most of the fight going backwards trying to throw which was dificult to generate power he also threw his better punches whilst coming foward on almost tip toe his feet were not grounded and planted atall . i noticed this during the fight hes almost on tip toe when throwing coming forward so hence lack of power
The punches that hurt the most are the punches you don't see. MMA fighters fight with their eyes closed.
Mayweather said it already. McGregor didn't have the power to stop him walking forward, if he did there would have been more lateral movement.
Other than what u said hatman there is a couple more reasons why Mcregor's power don't translate over to boxing. In Mma you can't stand with your lead leg out so far like in boxing is because you get leg kicked or taken down with a single leg. So for this reason his stance is mma is not for generating the most amount of power. Other than the Jose Aldo fight all Mcregor's knockouts came againts grapplers who have terrible stand up skills even for mma standards. Mayweather kept saying Mcregor is undefeated in stand-up in mma but that was absolutely not true. In the first Diaz fight the exact same thing happened like in the Mayweather fight. Mcregor threw everything at Diaz but Diaz was able to weather the strorm and then in the second round he boxer Mcregor up. Diaz caught Mcregor with a beautiful jab cross with stunned Mcregor who then initiated the takedown to basically get choked out rather then get knocked out. He didn't have the option to tap out againts Mayweather and we see what happened.
Conor didn't know how to put his weight behind his punches, he was throwing arm punches. He needs a good trainer, it reminded me of the punches Loma was throwing early on in the Salido fight, but I don't think he'll be back in boxing anytime soon. I wouldn't mind the Paulie fight, that would be a hyped fight. Conor was moving Floyd's body from the body shots, I think he could improve his power, power comes from timing and technique, I think Conor doesn't have those at world level, but he can be taught.
More proof to your point though was with that uppercut he landed on Floyd how it really didn't faze Floyd at all. Compare that to when Kell Brook who landed that shot on GGG and lifted him up a bit. Like a Conor vs someone his size like an Errol Spence or a Kell Brook would get killed.
I'd imagine the difference is being able to set up clean punches, 1 being mma fighters have a lesser boxing ability naturally than professional boxers, 2 being able to use other skills to create openings. Although yea he clearly doesnt have the same power as a canelo or ggg.
Do you remember? "A champion should be able to compete from one fighting style to another. "Connor can now get the fook out of here. Boxing ran his ass out not the other way around.
CONOR MCGREGOR is an overrated fighter. People are acting stupid.
McGregor was never a big puncher in mma terms either, in the UFC at least its only really Aldo that he knocked out with 1 punch. He then gave off one of his most quoted quotes, precision beats power, and timing beats speed. He knows himself that he isnt a 1 punch ko artist, but his striking, at least in MMA, is clean and precise and most guys cant live with it. Floyd was just far more precise, which although i hoped for different this result was always inevitable.
Good Point with 8 ounce Gloves u can throw ur hips body into it, 4 ounce u got open fingers only knuckle padding,I tried both it's different when u can try yourself
I always thought Conor would have less power in boxing gloves as oppose to the ones in mma. One just needs to 'think' about it. Money just walked him down laughing. Imagine if Conor tried to punch harder. This guy would be gassed before round 1. Not made for boxing at all but good try. Hats of to Hatmanstrikesback. Always a logical thinker.
I think it was to do with the fact that he didn't punch correctly and was not able to channel his power rather than the fact he cannot punch
I think a lot of it was also he didn't no how to show his power by punching Properly with perfect technique like world class boxers have.
I think a big factor when it comes to Fame and being the "best" in MMA compared to boxing, MMA a good streak is 4 wins, look at Mcgregor i believe hes on 2 or 3 loss out of 30 or so MMA fights? Boxers on the other hand have to go 30-0 just to get a title shot. Theres such a difference in skill between mid to top level boxers compared to mid to top level MMA fighters.
I just googled it, Conors MMA record 21-3. Put that in boxing standards.
First Name Surname yea ur right he would be a stepping stone in boxing
Mcgregor's left hand was as effective as beetlejuice from Howard sterns jab . Facts
I disagree Conors condition needs to improve significantly so he has more energy and he needs to transition in to boxing better by putting his weight into the shots rather than throwing arm punches.
Collin McGregor was too far out, you can't punch through when you're leaning in like that
He didn't really throw any power shots though, why I'm not sure. I thinks it's a mix of not getting his timing and range plus he obviously went in there to box NOT knock him out because I presume he knew he had to pace his self. If Nate Diaz says he's a big puncher then I'll take his word for it. Where he excels though is his placement, which we saw, he had no problem scoring points. Name a fighter in the UFC with a bad chin who hasn't been found out, just one? You telling me Anthony Johnson only knocks guys out due to the gloves?
Malinaggi vs McGregor would be competitive.
yh when mcgreogr counter punches guys that dont box they are really shocked because they dont see punches like that in boxing its different you have to have some pop on your punches cos people are used to whats coming and the bigger gloves u cant just touch people and sleep them effortlessly. and hatman i totaly agree imagine him against guys at 154 lmao he shouldnt think he can compete at a high level just because he countered floyd a few times with no power in the shots lol
Ronda got found out that she had a glass chin soon as she tried to box. Before that she wss fine when she was submitting opposition quick.
I'm gonna disagree with your point that he wouldn't walk through Canelo and Maidana bc we did see him walk Canelo down too... just saiyan...
Mma fighters have no defence at all most fights don't last 1 round facts people.
i wouldn't like a dig off him, but no, he has no power as far as elite pro boxers are concerned. He could probably ko a few low level journeymen but he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone in the top 20, bare in mind there was an exemption made that he could fight floyd in 8's, if he was fighting at middlewieght or junior middlewieght he would be wearing 10's which would decrease his power even more.
100 put right finally someone said it
Actually Floyd was never hurt in the fight. The body shots was actually a low blow where Floyd was obviously hurt.
Thank you FMJ...Round 10 @18s, kerching!!!!!
i agree hatman about confidence but that can get you hurt cos imagine he was fighting someone like canelo going in with that confidence would probably be bordering on being delusional lol like paulie said you have to realise who you are when you box what type of fighter what you can do being delusional can get you really hurt cos canelo would break mcgregors jaw lol
Badou jack profilic puncher
McGregor had to be at least 170 in that fight and looked horrible against an old Floyd coming off a 2 yr retirement...he punches like a girl after all that fucking mouth..he needs to stay out of boxing period.
I wouldn't say Conor got him with his best shots, he caught him with some good ones but not his best ones... Floyd can take a shot too, he's proved that throughout his career
i wouldnt also say his best shots but why not Floyd was right infront of him. maybe he was too afraid that he would get countered
I'd love to see Conor Mcgregor fight Triple-G in boxing. GGG ain't technically as sound as Floyd, but he's a hell of a lot bigger and punches a hell of a lot harder, He has a better chin and he's a better pressure fighter. If connor can be walked down by Floyd Mayweather who was half his size and twice his age, then GGG would have him pinned to the ropes in no time where he would unleash those monster power shots of which connor would of felt nothing like in his life, i give him 3 rounds if he runs, if he stands and fights he won't last one minute
Richard Staggie GGG would end mcgregors career if he took ot seriously
Richard Staggie lol you would love to see McGregor mauled to death then. GGG could literally kill him.
You leave yourself more open for big shots in MMA positioning wise and obviously the technique is less refined.
Wilder be lucky he don't be wearing 4oz gloves. He'd have no hands!
Fight was FIXED Mcgregor and Mayweather made millions by fixing the fight! Mc Gregor did not try to put much power in his punches! He did not want to hurt Mayweather, tenth round stoppage was planned, Mayweather got his friends to bet on the tenth round so did Mc Gregor.
The body shot Mcgregor landed was very low, right in the nads. Watched it in slo mo lol
You try telling MMA fans that. I have they're extremely childish on this issue. I like MMA but don't get the McGregor fanboys.
Dude he has less than Malinaggi power even at 147
And u forget this is his debut as a pro at the age of 30 with Floyd ur biased cant believe it (you think he takes connor left hand with UFC gloves?) you have alot more work to do as specialist ... you have to use ur imagination thats the point of this mach .. he doesn't lean in to his shots because he does not telegraph his shots , the punch you dont see are the punches that hurt you so why lean in to the shot?.. yes i agree the chins in boxing are better but imagine he learns to sit on his shots?
Even though mayweather was 20Ibs lighter he bullied Conor McGregor.
"suspect chin" 😂😂😂
May weather let him tee off because if he made mcgregor look like a fool who else keeps Vegas going?
Lets get it staight, if mcgregor got in there with say a keith thurman or golofkin he 100% would get damaged badly.
4.44 cracked me up. "Weak chins"
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that's what I'm saying imagine canelo vs mcgreggor
streatham high road.. who else clocked it lol
Tyron woodley has the power in boxing
The only person of note Conor has ever comatosed is Jose Aldo. His power is vastly overrated in his own sport, let alone boxing.
mmmfighters are wide open and tend to leav there chins out in the air, because they look at the body and look to land kicks, anyone can knock someone out with there chin out in the air
pauly g I bet any mma fighter female or male would beat your ass in 10 seconds
just like mcgregor would knock floyd out in 1 round
McGregor didn't land a full on punch on Mayweather.
Been saying it all along his "power" was a myth , compared to someone like Julian the hawk Jackson , Conors punches are pitter patter
Chas Charlton don't you ever...ever,ever ever mention connor's name in the same sentence as Julian brukk up mans face Jackson!!😂
cant beat boxers for punching power.
I thought it was jus me !!!...through out that fight I kept wondering how come those big shots I couldn't hear nothing but when mayweather hit him I could hear it!!!it looks like he jus throws his punch from the arms and doesn't set him self up to throw
Thurman, Danny Garcia and Porter would destroy him. Spence and Crawford would put him straight to the canvass for keeps Just imagine what Eubank Jr would do to that utter clown never mind Canelo and Golovkin. Kell Brook would have him for breakfast and Amir Khan would take him apart.
Paulie himself has more power then McGregor.
But he's a god of boxing and he's a left hand that can put anyone to sleep 😂😂😂😂😂
TH-cam Randi he would put you to sleep he would kill Floyd in a street fight
I totally agree.
mcgregor would get knockout like khan if he fought canelo or triple GGG
St. Barnabas Church? I pass that place everyday on my way in to work lol
This farce of a fight was scripted, I give Floyd no respect especially counted this exhibition match on his record.
Agree, I don't think you can condition your chin though haha. That's absurd.
the fight was fixed mc gregor was pulling his shots and even a gut who exposed it got killed check it out online dont hate they both made money that's it
Well said
Its was well known, Rampage Jackson proved it
McGregors wins were flash knockdowns, and not full ko's imo there a huge difference
Conor Mcnopower... lol i was amazed how weak his punchs looked.
Agree. No power whatsoever.
zab Judah stepped on his foot
You can lean in but you better catch the jaw
Facts