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- No surprise to anyone paying attention but it’s not all rainbows and sunshine when it comes to laws and motorcycles. Do some traffic laws actively increase your risk factor instead of minimizing it?
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To answer some common questions on the first one:
Crashing due to failure to turn your ABS back ON requires a rider to: 1.) Disable it in the first place, which beginners rarely do. 2.) Forget one’s settings when rejoining the pavement, despite the obvious visual and tactile reminders that the surface has changed. 3.) Fail to notice the bright orange (ABS) light on the dash, which is another (more sensible) requirement of UNGTR 3 whenever ABS is disabled. And 4.) apply the brakes poorly enough to crash. All this requires a level of incompetence so high that it is actually less common.
On the flip side, crashing due to failure to turn your ABS back OFF is easy. Off-roaders stop their bikes all the time - to consult a map, to chat with other riders, or simply because they stalled or tipped over. It’s common to quickly restart the bike and forget that ABS has automatically re-armed itself. There are no external reminders because the riding surface hasn’t changed, and the dash warning lights are now unlit (off-roaders rarely look at the dash anyway, since they are typically standing). On top of all this, no amount of braking skill can prevent a crash when ABS is working against you.
My conclusion is that the law is poor, because it serves an unlikely level of incompetence at the cost of causing averagely-competent riders to crash. Most ADV folks will tell you that it has happened to them.
Bear in mind that this does not affect the vast majority of motorcycles, which do not have switchable ABS in the first place. ~RF9
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Can you pull a fuse instead?
Hack that shit or replace it with aftermarket electronics
I gave you a challenge to buy Chinese PID bike and do vidio abaut it
Yes. Much more likely to cause issues in scenario 2. This is a lesson I would be happy to stop learning. I always seem to discover that the ABS has turned itself back on when I'm on a steep downhill trying to manage around a sharp corner on the trails.... aaaand we're not stopping.
In India, cars lane filter too. They are truly ahead of their time.
That' s brilliant!😂
😂😂😂
😂😂 that's called "mayhem"
@@franklin23st horns in India are not used as a warning in India, it's used more as form of communication in India. You don't want to be stuck behind a bullock cart or lorry moving at super slow speed of 30km/h forever, so you have to filter the lane.
Culture go beep beep
“Motorcyclist can’t turn right”
End of video: Ryan makes a 270° left turn to exit the scene safely. 😄
Damn !
Quality scripting right there.
I laughed at that Zoolander reference
He's true to his weakness.
Small details like these is why I'm a subscriber.
3:20 - Meanwhile in India: 16 wheelers try lane filtering.
True that bhai😂
False. You cant Lane Filter when there are no lanes to begin with.
You may be right, but I hate it when I see people complain about their home countries in front of foreigners. Kol kırılır yen içinde kalır!
@@enginerikli5895 not complain. Making a joke
@@enginerikli5895 Don't worry everyone knows India has the most road deaths on the Planet.
The lane filtering being illegal really got me. Here in Brazil, our DOT (DETRAN) actually requires of us riders to be able to ride between lanes in the exam. They even started to reserve a spot just before traffic lights for motorcycles, so we can get ahead when it closes, wait there and then take off quickly when it opens.
I'm rather sure that lane filtering is also legal in France, and there is that same spot in front of intersections for bikes too, which is great.
@@WanganTunedKeiCar Lane filtering is 100% allowed in the Netherlands , also fun tidbit; in the Netherlands you are "allowed" as a motorcyclist to drive ~10%ish faster than the speed limit (whatever it is where you're riding) if you are in trafic, just so you can get away from the other vehicles better/faster.
@@ridderjaim3 I've always thought about that. It never made sense to me as to why ~170kg vehicles have to go as slow as 1 to 3 ton vehicles. Even if bikes crash, it's still safer for others. Glad that exists somewhere.
@@ridderjaim3 If you are in that big of a hurry, you should have left sooner. Opening your door in front of a filtering bike should be legal.
@@scrambler69-xk3kvcar driver detected
"Our laws should presume intelligence, rather than incompetence." Absolutely love this statement and agree 100%.
I actually don’t agree. Especially in traffic science, you should always expect idiots on roads.
Yeah I completely disagree. If that were the case then we wouldn't need things like safety precautions at industrial jobs
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
George Carlin
I agree. The law should assume that an intelligent motorcycle rider will read the owners manual and understand how their motorcycle systems work. 😁
I would like to believe that there is a primal safety instinct that kicks in when the cage and the training wheels come off. Even the squids that still have the factory finish on their front tire weigh their odds more than when they are in their mustang GT drift car. The problem is we all make mistakes and safety culture tries to say that if we can make mistakes we will always make mistakes all the time and set us up for failure to try to protect us from ourselves.
I guess what I'm saying now regardless of if it says armed or disarmed upon cutting the power, people are going to forget to change a system's state and have accidents.
The "out of the box" joke was incredible, pure poetry
i thought it was stupid tribalism and in bad taste.
@@GraveUypo bruh
@@acters124 welll he is not wrong.
@@GraveUypo You should stop thinking then.
@@GraveUypo Someone felt attacked by the joke...
The humour of rotating left (because it's safer) to exit the video at the end was not lost. It's why I love this channel, the depth of comedy mixed with depth of intellect is unmatched.
Wish I'd found this channel sooner.
hey i hadnt noticed that! thats cool haha, good eye
I like that the jokes are clever and he doesnt pause or draw attention to them. Its not like a lot of media nowadays that presumes you're stupid and so must explain or draw attention to jokes. It reflects his philosophy on laws, that they should expect competency.
"Our laws should presume intelligence, rather than incompetence." I love this statement. the problem is that in all things stupidity knows no bounds and we must all pay for this
If we could assume intelligence we wouldn’t need laws.
And, personal injury lawyers gotta eat...or so they say...
Yeah, I strongly disagree with that sentence. Law should presume incompetence, but have in mind intelligence as well. Cause an intelligent person will now when their right is ignored, whereas an incompetent one won't ever notice.
Lane splitting is legal in California, but it's exceedingly dangerous.... too many idiots on their phones instead of driving their cars... Soccer Moms.... and people that never signal in bumper to bumper, let alone use their side or rear view mirrors, let alone turn indicators. You can't fix stupid, and you can't train people to see motorcycles. They are truly invisible.
@@feloniousmonk3049I used to commute 600 miles/week on a bike and much of it involved lane splitting. I did that for about two years when I was working and going to grad school (only way I could make the schedule work). I always assumed I was invisible, even when they looked right at me. And, I assumed they were out to kill me - that was key. The rule that probably helped the most tho is that I also assumed that if a car can change lanes, assume they will. Lane splitting is risky, but the risk can be managed to a degree.
In India, you create your own law and pray everyone has the same law.
😂👍
Upto 69 cars in one lane...
Word
Same in Manila😂
Accurate representation of southeast asian traffic law
I'm in the UK and was astounded when I learned that filtering isn't legal in much of the US and Canada. That's the main benefit of commuting on a bike!
Yeah and it's one reason bike commuting is uncommon here even though recreational biking is popular.
It’s illegal in a lot of european countries as well
I did a 100 mile commute (each way!) for years on a motorcycle and the only reason it made sense was that I could filter. If I'm stuck in traffic, I'd like a latte, please, and some music.
@@Gersti96 here in Portugal it’s one of those unenforced laws. I have no problem lane filtering up to a red and stop next to a police car, but if I was to be caught lane splitting I would be paying a heavy fine.
A lot is selective enforcement though. In St. Louis I filter all the time and don't get a second glance from a cop but have been pulled over when out of the city.
The lane filtering one really pissed me off when i was stuck in a heatwave inhaling carbon monoxide for 2 hours. Honestly I should have just broken the law, but as a new rider I was more concerned with not loosing my new license or getting a ding on my insurance. Was really quite an unsafe situation that I was too scared to leave because of these stupid laws. This is in Toronto Canada btw
Quite permissible in the UK. And to think Aussies call us POHMs...
One reason my better half and I moved from Illinois to California was that lane splitting and lane filtering were not illegal. You could still catch a reckless driving or too fast for conditions if you were a knucklehead, though. California has since codified it with a formal law because too many idiots spoiled it.
We never split for no reason, and then only when traffic was slow, and then at a reasonable speed difference. 30 years of doing it, zero problems or accidents. Many drivers moved over a tad, some even pulled in trailer mirrors. In our area lots of drivers recognize the inherent benefit to all.
Over the years I was even flagged down by cars three times; for directions, for a cigarette (all riders smoke? They lucked out, I did at the time), and most strange to give the passenger a ride (he had a helmet and needed to get to San Bruno ASAP).
@@davidjones-vx9ju You believe that cars don't emit carbon monoxide (CO)?
@UCX2tv63AjcF-1UCrsOueMTQ Out of curiosity, do also believe that the Earth is flat and/or that the 1969 moon landing was faked?
@@mbryson2899 10 years ago nearly half of the US believed that the planet had only been about for less than 10 000 years, so... y'know... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In Australia, lane filtering is legal for fully-licensed riders, but is banned for L-plate & P-plate riders. I think this is an excellent compromise as it allows experienced riders to move to the front of the queue.
ye a pretty good idea
it’s a good compromise until you realise you’re on your Ps for 3 years (and Ls for 3 months). that’s a lot of time during which you could be fatally rear-ended, especially if you commute. in Victoria it’s better-P platers can filter-but still, why are we actively putting learners, who are especially vulnerable members of traffic, in danger? the only real solution is to teach filtering in the pre learner course. and only give out licenses to those who have proved themselves able to perform every maneuver necessary to ride a motorcycle safely in traffic, including lane filtering.
@@AlenaWeileyI move between the UK and Oz regularly, and can't for the life of me remember if it's Oz or the UK that uses the red and green P plate system where new P platers are on reds, and after a year or so they're on green Ps.... either way, allowing the green P platers to filter would be the best compromise in many ways. If it isn't Oz that uses the green/red P's to denote proficiency, perhaps its time they should. Have a good one mate.
@@----.__ yea it is aus that does the red/green plates. i still don’t like the compromise, i think disallowing anyone from filtering is really dangerous and basically pointless. also p platers generally filter anyway even though the fine is insane, so the law isn’t really stopping much, it feels like just another excuse to get people in trouble
@@AlenaWeiley Compromise is the best we can hope for when facing a legal system that is so biased and corrupt. Western governments give money hand over fist to illegals yet leave veterans to rot under bridges.
I'm 17 and I ride a scooter. My dad always tells me, "assume everyone on the road is an idiot, and you'll be fine most of the time"
I am 60 and have been riding bikes, on and off since my 17th birthday,. I still assume, everything on the road is trying to kill me
@@BigBadLoneWolf explains why you're still alive 🤣
Good advice...
@@BigBadLoneWolf Ditto.
The #1 tip from my instructor, assume nobody has seen you at any point and ride like everyone is deliberately trying to kill you
Another classic case of "the people who wrote those laws never did the thing they're writing laws against".
Damn hypocrites want to outlaw me being able to kill whomever I want. They've never even tried it!
Guns be like
@@AsTheStarsFallDown Their's a place and time for everything.
@@Thrillowatt "Help! This guy much stronger than me is stabbing me with a knife repeatedly. If only I had something that's considered "the great equalizer" that could help me out."
There's a time and place for everything is what I'm saying.
What is that supposed to mean? Complaining about "lawmakers never did thing they write laws about" is an astoundingly inane point. What does "time and place" have anything to do with it?
Even "mild" filtering really upsets drivers. Horn blasts, swearing and finger salutes abound for just using the shoulder to pass one or two SUVS on the right to get to a stop sign, to then turn right. I feel it's more of the issue you pointed out, that they feel cheated or somehow shorted, when a smaller vehicle uses a part of the road they physically can't. I had a middle aged white women, her name was Karen of course, in a suburban ride right up to my rear tire and lay on the horn whilst she leaned out her window and told me I was "breaking the law" because of this exact move, and maybe she was right. I signaled right, used the three of four feet of tarmac in front of me, came to a complete stop, looked left and right, and left again before turning right. I tried to retort that I wouldn't know which direction she was planning to go since her suburban apparently did not have a blinker that indicates the intention to turn right... but I digress. She continued to lay on the horn for the entirety of the red light's duration. Now normally I would have deserved this kind of hostility as I have zero respect for someone who uses their extra large vehicle to intimidate or bully, but that morning I was quite zen on my commute ride and didn't provoke her at all. The take away is that their are actually violent and self-righteous people out there that would love to run over a motorcyclist if they could get away with it and not go to jail. Stay safe and stay sharp.
buthurt drivers cant accrpt being stuck and slow
That must be cultural thing, here lane filtering is legal and in the 15~ years im riding bikes i recall one situation where someone got pissy because he couldnt move while i was.
In general when consuming content on the internet anything driving related especially in USA is so weird to me. Rage, rage everywhere. Brake checking (which i didnt encounter ever), road rage like getting out of cars or even pulling guns out, not driving on the right lane and then suddenly cutting few lanes to not miss exit like you are alone on the road, sheer size of the cars. Somehow i still think people in US are lead poisoned with how angry they are.
It depends on the custom: I'm countries like France it's legal and thus accepted by cagers...
People don't like others "cutting in line," in any situation. We're all getting screwed on a daily basis, so letting a random subset of the population constantly cut through traffic isn't seen as fair. It's the same reason that people get upset at "carpoolers" that are a driver with just a bunch of kids who can't drive. They aren't decreasing the amount of drivers on the road, so they shouldn't be able to get carpool privileges.
@@derek96720 lane splitting bike not only doesnt affect you it actually makes you faster. if you cant see it for yourself, its almost funny. first of all he didnt just cut in front of YOU he cunt in front of EVERYBODY mean while YOU will sit behind a CAR regardless. and one more he could be that car but chose not to be.
It’s amazing seeing a motorcycle channel that isn’t riding footage for 30 minutes with 3 minutes of information in there. Thank you
Let’s all take a moment to recognize how much better a rider this nerd actually is than most of us (nerd meant with the utmost respect).
**In Homer Simpson’s voice** “NEEEEEEEERRRRRDDDDDD!”
Nerd is a compliment, basically calling someone wise
@@specialopsdave I enjoy being called a nerd
@@jasonbourne2852 Jesus Christ it do be Jason Bourne up in the comments
@@CoralReef69 so do I
"Trying to save the moron from himself, the Law hurts the more conscientious rider" This quote is applicable to so much...
sadly, yup
But is the rider who forgets that his system reverts back to ABS "on" and crashes because of it not also a moron? I don't think that example is as much of a "gotcha!" as it's presented.
@@Wrencher_86 That's what I was thinking, laws are so much fun, aren't they?
@@Wrencher_86 Not so necessarily... There are still a lot of riders "left over" from the years before ABS was standard. Even well after it was instated, their own bikes may have lasted way beyond it, so it's all new to the one who just bought an "upgrade" in the last year or two... AND who remembers EVERY little tidbit of minutia just like that??? Nobody...
SO the hard lesson comes when the old veteran of two wheels gets off road to visit some place irregularly, and forgets after disengaging the ABS that once he comes back out he's going to have to disengage it again, and... splat... Building a new habit that he's never had to practice before has cost him the brand new bike...
The problem with "legislation vs. Stupidity" is that by its very nature stupidity is unlimited. By the time you can even make something "fool proof" only a fool is going to want it. ;o)
Good thing I'm the moron in most cases.
“People who drive boxes can’t think outside of them.” The writing is just so good.
It's interesting watching these channels and seeing the similarities between motorcycling and bicycling problems in cities and urban planning. Engineers and cities really don't care about people who don't drive automobiles.
Half the time city planner cut back on engineer's plan to save money, then have to rebuild the road because it can not handle the volume of traffic, great plan.
Ebikes are the wave of the future. Towns who do not adapt are literally hamstringing themselves for fat lazy dip shit politics.
@@webyankee6558 This is literally all the roads in Central Florida
The Netherlands are future in it
Lol, I’m only here because of all the bicycle channels I watch.
"Lane filtering is illegal. Lane splitting is illegal."
Indians : LOL
pretty much all of Asia it's common practice.
more like "lol, lanes"
Exactly, road is road
Not in California. As surprising as that may be as California is well known for imposing needless restrictions and regulations on everyone. They did in fact do this right. Lane "splitting" and "filtering" help move traffic much better. When you are small enough to fit between the slow or stopped vehicles you might as well. If the drivers of the too large of vehicles to be able to do this don't like it that's just too f ing bad.
@@EasyRiderGreg I live in California and I totally agree with you...although I've seen lots of riders abuse this and are splitting lanes when the flow of traffic is fast enough (more than 30 mph).
When you get referred to as a "tea sipper"...... And actually spit out the tea you were sipping at the time 😫
Were you, in fact, chuffed?
@@PhaedruS007 To bits.
Tea spitter sounds better anyway. :D
Glad I'm brewing coffee! that was close.
Hi Ryan; Recent subscriber and really enjoying the videos. Your physics background is shining through. 1 other reason for right turn incidents is cars cutting the corners and spewing gravel, dirt, and dust across the right lane causing motorcyclists to straighten up and drift wide. The Ozarks of Missouri are great to ride because the twisty roads incorporate a paved curb into the asphalt and voila, no debris either right or left curves.
love how all your videos show your incredible work put into each of them
“Perhaps it’s unsurprising that people that drive in boxes can’t think outside of them” 💀💀💀💀💀
correct or their gazing into the phone thats why they like been stood
Good one
this was simply brilliant
That may be because in the US motorcycles are seen as toys
@@andrespolo2722 by who?
I burst out laughing at the camera and tripod that went flying. Great way to lead up to anti-lock brakes.
You knew it was coming...
Informative and entertaining as always! This is my favorite channel. Each subject has been very well thought out.. Always a pleasure. Thanks.
Funny, filtering is exactly the reason that motivated me to learn how to ride a motorcycle. Daily trafic jam after work decreased my will to drive a car. I honestly thought it was legal and common practice everywhere (from Belgium btw)
Dont know the laws in belgium, but in Germany U are only allowed to filter, if the cars are standing, which is the safest way to do so. U can easily be overseen if they are moving, because they dont expect some overtaking them between the lanes. Worst case u fall, get squished between two cars and someone rolls over you.
@@forsaken7161 in Belgium, you can filter if cars are slower than 50km/h, you cannot ride 20km/h faster than the cars (with a max speed of 50km/h) and you must do it between the left lane and the one on its right (in a 2 lane, between them two. In a 3 lane, between left and middle...)
Not legal in Denmark.
Its practically legal here in Indonesia, motorcycle is the queen of the road. The king? Aunties on Motorcycle.
Its practically legal here in Indonesia, motorcycle is the queen of the road. The king? Aunties on Motorcycle.
‘To all you tea sippers’ who ride on the left; as I’m sat here in the UK drinking tea, watching your video 🤦🏻 He’s not wrong!
No he's not. You guys, however... xD
@ is driving on the left side wrong? or what do you mean?
@@P4hko some countries drive on left side. England, Malta, Australia to name a few.
“Tea sippers.” Haha. Canada has so much respect for their former monarchs. I just call them limeys here in USA.
@@stevedoe1630 you dont wanna know what the UK calls people from the US 😂
Could you please renew all of your motorcycle gear lists from like 4 years ago? That would be awesome!
Compared to making legendary and impactful videos like this, I imagine producing the ole sales pitches just don't have the same appeal for the team.
Listicles are garbage "journalism".
@@FalertTheDim I disagree. I think if something new and innovative that pushes the bar significantly, they'd make a video. The minor incremental increases we see year by year by most gear isn't worthy of entire new videos.
I'd say watch the old videos, and use the same criteria to find new gear.
@@Pavorish Exactly that Pavo. We have all the info we need from the old videos to select new gear.
I live in Ireland, I couldn't buy any of the actual gear the team showed, but I was sure to find the same features!
Yeah, please don’t turn this channel back into a TH-cam advertisement!
Waiting for the day when these guys start their subscription service. I’d pay in a heartbeat. I didn’t know or realize that right turns were much more dangerous. Subconsciously I did, but not in my daily riding. I will definitely pay more attention to right turns. Thank you.
Well, in the U.S. and Canada, if you're a motorcyclist you can just go ahead and fucking die. Except in California.
One of the problems with filtering you unfortunately didn't talk about is people are more susceptible to open doors in front of filtering riders at lower speeds, and they'll also have more incentive to change lanes without warning if one of the lanes is stopped.
Regarding crashes in curves, I suspect the blind spots in left turns due to windshield pillars also foster more caution.
Dangers of this can be greatly alleviated if rider does this sensibly though, by not "filtering" at full speed, just a bit faster then almost stopped flow, that will increase chance of drivers noticing him, will add safety margin to stop if needed, will greatly reduce how grave incident may result.
Exactly right. It’s down to relative speeds. Filter but at a speed that allows your reaction to the unexpected. Similar for cars passing slower moving lanes on highways. Keep your relative speed manageable and worst case, survivable if all else fails.
@@robinwells8879 OG course, practiced sensibly, filtering is safer than waiting to get rear-ended by braindead idiots.
"People who drive boxes can´t think outside of them"
Every line is pure gold! Great video, as always
Boxes means? Thank you
@@Human.Original Boxes = Cars in this case. "Thinking outside the box" is a common saying when you want to express creativity.
Hope this helped!
Ryan isn't usually too keen on badmouthing "cagers". I guess he did so only for the pun 😁
@@jjlloouuiissss You´re absolutely right, even in the Orad Rage Video he kept it civil, what a man!
For last month I've been decided that I wanna start riding. Also getting my license :D
But must admit that thanks to your videos I am even more motivated than I was before. All your safety tips and stuff about bikes just fascinates me and shakes of the fears I had/would have later. Thanks man ^^
I started my journey around when you posted this too! How far are you?
I have my endorsement and Ive gotten all my gear, just need the helmet and the money for my first motorcycle
@@Bruhecc Just started mine - saving up for Rider's Safety and gear
Cool! After a lot more work, I actually have my bike now, and Im riding around
Another n00b here, I hope you're both doing well with it! I haven't bought my own bike yet but I've gone on a couple rides with a buddy where he's lent me Honda dual sport (not sure which model).
What bike did you end up getting?
Yet another Brilliant Vid! Thank you.
“Like American politics, neither left or right is desirable and going down the middle is out of the question”....outstanding! 😂😂
That cracked me up xD
@@zUJ7EjVD Depending on the country of course. 1 doesn't cancel the other. From you perspective it can look different. The democrats in the US started going heavily MORE to the left, beginning to be a radical left, with all poop going now in the US, social reforms bordering on listening to crying babies etc..
There's some absolute gems subtly hidden in these videos. This has got to be one of the best.
Based and true
That's what happens when the same people control all the parties.
Loved the left hand spin to then exit stage right 😂
Thats Stage Left.
FranBunnyFFXII stage right. Because it’s right from the person on stage looking at the audience. His right is the one that is referred to
@@Gersti96 Nailed it. Also considered "House Left" :)
I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. Seeing all the guys on motorbikes/scooters filtering past me while I'm stuck in traffic was my motivation to learn to ride.
Your commentary is simply class!
"Like American politics, left and right are both indesirable and going in the middle isn't an option"
Speak for yourself. Ever hear of libertarians that’s what I am! I’m the middle!
Yup, I've been trying to go the middle and keep getting hit by both sides. Stupid two party system
@lass kinn yeah libertarians aren't centrist. Lol
Thats why I don't go there at all.
@ He was quoting FortNine but you seem to one of those trapped in a box people.
Me : "You can't have a crash due to ABS if you don't have ABS."
** Rides off laughing on my old-school XR600 before skidding into something because my brakes are shit. **
Get coremoto brake lines and an oversized rotor
First fix I did on the XS750 - replaced the 20 year old rubber lines with steel-braided, and rebuilt the calipers.
Now, about that second gear issue... screw it, new bike!
Hah *runs directly into tree on XR200 because the 6in drums wont even lock on dirt*
Wore out 3 XR 600s never had an issue with the brakes. In the immortal words of Harry Callahan, a mans gotta know his limitations. Or in this case your bikes, don’t go 85 mph if you have poor brakes and/or suffer from target fixation
I've never ridden a motorcycle in my life but your videos are so well made and informative I watch them anyway
wow, your channel is actually very informative, thank you!
Crab be like "if I'm gonna die, we all gonna die"
the best motorcycle content on youtube .
by far!
No doubt.
so you have not seen motomadness and scooterfrenzy
@@c0nsequence942 can't find scooterfrezy
@@c0nsequence942 Oh yeah, those guys suck.
I love your videos man. The constant witty remarks, jokes and humor digs thrown in are absolutely amazing. Always informational yet endlessly entertaining. I am taking my MRF course in two weeks and still looking at which motorcycle I want to buy for my first but definitely looking forward to hitting the open road in the future! Pretty close to buying a 2012 Harley Fat Bob - know anything good/bad about that model? Most folks I talk to tell me to steer away from Harley but I want the "cool factor" and feel of a Harley... Also odd because those folks own multiple Harley's and ride them most... Lol
I love the left hand 270° outro. Very safe but extra work. Although it also means you took a u-turn into possible oncoming traffic without a shoulder check.
I've been arguing in favor of filtering ever since I moved to the USA from England!!
Well I just moved to England from the States and I quite like it!
Keep up the good work!
I have to admit not getting the argument for a long time, but then I was in the US and, until recently, only lived in places where the only time that kind of traffic happened was due to construction lane restrictions or wrecks, and riders in those areas were arguing for high-speed lane splitting instead.
@@DanielleWhite different things. "High speed" and "filtering" don't really go together.
@@NooBiker define "High Speed"
75yrs old riding since 1965. In response to your remark about septuagenarians. As the 3Stooges said, "I represent that remark"
"I resemble that remark", says the old guy in Canada😏
Great video as always!
New rider here, just got a 2018 Honda cb300fa and I love your channel. So much helpful info. Thank you
Lane filtering is legal in Sydney Oz and became so after research showed ALL traffic moves faster.. then the law changed 😎
Same as here in New Zealand
At least we got something right with traffic laws.
All the best
And nothing feels better than when we get motorcycle aware drivers who actually move their cars when they see you coming to give you more room to filter to the front!
@@syntonicpaul honestly, get the same here in canada but shhh i obviously never do this cause its against the law, the allmighty law. i've only ran into one dick in couple years of doing this so i dont think most people care.
Lmao imagine following the law, out here in WV we just ride dirtbikes everywhere.
To be fair, lane filtering violates the principle of invisibility training, since someone opening a door is all it takes to merc you
Me in india: "what filtering ? It seems like just rideing normally "
When I was learning to drive a car, my dad told me, "They put those lines on the road for a reason, son." I imagine that's something no Indian driving instructor has ever said.
Hello, I've been following you for a while. In fact since I bought a Royal Enfield Interceptor a few months ago. I wanted to thank you for the quality of your shows and the pace you set. I personally learned a lot of technical things about the motorcycle world from your shows. They take a lot of time to do. Keep it up and good luck. (From the Balearic Islands, far, far away from your Canada. 🤟🏻🤙🏻)
Godlike videos! Informative in a humorous way! And you obviously know your way around your subject.
Lane filtering is now, and for a few years, legal in Australia. And it’s bloody good.
I suspect that’s where Ryan got his filtering/splitting data - given that he literally quotes out laws lol.
I think one of the best things I saw on the subject was an American article a few years ago that said they shouldn’t get the Australian system because 30kph is too slow to filter through traffic - you’ll definitely fall off and hit a car. That made me very scared for the author’s ability lol... isn’t slow riding in a straight line a pretty universal right of passage to getting a license?
But yeah, filtering in Melbourne is why I commute by bike. We have a couple of roads you’re allowed to ride in the bus lane.. but it’s stupidly not universal like it was when I lived in the UK, so it feels a bit more risky. Sooner take the roads I know are wide enough to easy go between the cars.
Of course there’s still the bloody minded/small penised people that try and stop you (what aussies call ‘tradies’) getting by, but yeah, chuck out the regulation mirror for one you can fold and nip through.
@@jonpram1737 They did an extended trial of letting us use the bus lanes here in Perth but they've now made it illegal again. For here at least, it's for the best as in peak hour traffic you get so many cars turning through the stopped traffic with no way of seeing if a bike is coming through (and the bikes can't see them either). You can safely ride them but you have to go slow when the other lanes are stopped - and too many riders just fanged down them regardless and got wiped out. Like you, I prefer to filter so I can see what's coming.
@@noid919 yeah I can see that. I’ve only used the one just of the eastern here in melb and it’s a bit of a nightmare. For one it’s (shockingly) full of buses, car’s think you’re braking the rules, people are always turning across the lane, etc. I filter a lot and I don’t feel safe in that lane when I’ve used it. As I say I’m happy enough with filtering (unless Dan Andrews wants to put in ‘motorcycling lanes’ lol), but you’ve gotta have yay or nay on the bus lanes, we have a couple of sections of road where you can use them in one direction, only at a certain time of day... talk about begging for confusion
Also legal (somewhat grey area) in NZ. Filtering is the best.
Commuting on a bike where filtering is illegal is useless.
I believe part of the problem is people are not generally smart enough to differentiate filtering from splitting...box and bike
This makes an excellent point. Failure to negotiate a curve is an issue. Practicing offset cone weaves will help a rider to adjust and learn to look through a curve. I agree with the lane filtering. It's too bad that people in cars get so pissed off about it
Another amazing video....keep up the good work mate 👍
"Just be more careful in right-hand curves."
Then He makes THREE LEFT TURNS to go right!!!!
Love it!!
I was wondering how many others caught that.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left
🤣🤣🤣🤣
"before all you tea sippers get chuffed" 🤣🤣 I'm going to have a brew and celebrate the reference!
Much love from England!
Having a cider but I'll join ya!
Bless you, Ryan! You do good work.
6:19 - that subtle 270-degree left hand turn to leave the scene towards his right side is pure screenplay gold
The only videos I give a thumbs up to while the initial ad is still playing.
there are ads? (adblocker plus user)
Turns out there's actually great reasons to stay up to 3am... Thanks for proving that FortNine!
Oh look another bored Australian?
Where the hell are you
@@paryudisaditya8845 Upside down.
@@MrLunithy get some sleep you wankers. No lane-splitting in a few hours not having had enough sleep.
@@paulroberts3639 lol
Best content I’ve seen this year by far.
I don't even have a motorcycle but I have been binge watching your videos. Very professional and top quality content!
“Before you tea sippers get chuffed” that is brilliant!
I’m a tea sipper who loves filtering 😉😂👍🏻
Press f9 to pay respects
This channel is fantastic, just discovered it. I don't ride anymore but this has me thinking about it.
Good points!! Keep up the good work!
"Before you tea sippers get all chuffed"
I'm literally sipping tea... and I knew that was coming
I'm sipping my juice
Lane filtering is allowed here in the Netherlands, one of the few great laws we have :)
I wish it was allowed here in Denmark. I'm doing it all the time anyway (responsibly). I feel so much safer that way.
You mean besides the mandatory 20 days paid vacation you have per year for working 5 days a week, decriminalization of recreational drugs for personal use, The Red Light District, and full marriage equality?
@@icyhotonmynuts yep, one of the few great ones (although recreational drugs are still illegal)
Edit: and the red light district is mostly for tourists these days + there are a lot of victims of human trafficking there
its also allowed here in california
@@icyhotonmynuts we have 30 days paid vacation on brazil and a lot of holidays to add to it. Oh yeah almost forgot: lane splitting too.
Hey Ryan, just found your TH-cam channel and am really enjoying your sense of humour and bollocks busting logic. Well done mate, very enjoyable to watch and much appreciated. After watching your DRZ400 clip I’m tempted to give the strom 650 a stable mate and head into the Oz outback.
Very Good! Thanks for your time!
The no filtering thing in the US is utterly bizarre, just sitting in a traffic jam with all the cars, may as well just get a car 🤷♂️
It's even more bizarre that those same motorists who are opposed to filtering by motorcycles enjoy the ability to blast past a bicycle in the same lane, with the vulnerable bicyclist teetering in the margin among the glass, brambles and broken pavement. It makes a mockery of the "safety" argument. In Virginia a motorcyclist can be thrown in jail for carefully inching along at only 5 mph in the same lane as traffic that is at an absolute standstill- it's considered to be reckless driving (!).
That's why I'm a rebel
@@paulh6591 Well to be fair, bicycles are a different beast, they actually can lane split.
@@0ffaI "fair" but is it logical? Car blasts pasts bicycle-ok, motorcycle slithers past stopped car-reckless driving?
It's legal in California...
i'm a simple guy, I see Ryan and I click the like button.
Simple? Maybe... A man with taste? Definitely
I too like Ryans's humor, but since he started bashing Harley-Davidson I don't always click.
@@EasyRiderGreg but he's right.. 😁
@@dudunelkee I don't agree. I have been hearing about the demise of Harley-Davidson since I was a teen ager in the 60s. It has not happened, they are still here.👍🏻👊🏻💪🏻
Before seeing the video??😱 THAT'S INSANE
By far my favorite youtube channel. Nice video boss
I don’t currently own a motorcycle and yet these videos are so well done that I subscribed lol
Feel kinda blessed to be in CA. I only use lane filtering when I am sure the stop light stays red to get to the front. People hate super hard!! Thanks F9
I work as a courier, so if filtering was illegal in Hungary, I'd pay more fines than make money.
It used to be illegal. But even the police officers thought that law is stupid and rarely enforced it.
Great subject and presentation of that subject.
Nice Straight to the point
Thanks heaps
I am with you on that. I think ABS is great on the front end but for me I'd rather the rear did lock up in emergency. Nothing worse than anchoring on and still feeling the rear "still turning"!
you know it's a good day when fortnine's video's out
As someone who rides and commonly pulls heavy trailers in traffic I can understand both sides of lane filtering. It complicates lane changing in traffic exponentially. It shouldn’t but it does. The problem is that the vast majority of drivers in urban areas have no idea of the challenges of driving vehicles that aren’t small cars. They have no idea of the driving needs of someone hauling heavy loads and likewise they have no idea what the rider approaching in the mirror is doing or needs to do. Just the presence of the motorcycle where they can’t be causes them to freeze up.
I think ive commented on a youtube video a handful of times or less. I feel i just have to thank you personally for your content. Its thoughtful often lighthearted and as seemingly unbiased as any normal human can hope to be. Its refreshing and a voice like yours in important places is a force unheard of. I will support this channel till my hands can no longer grip a throttle. @fortnine
I live an place when lane splitting is a gray area , but I still only filter at speeds around 10-30km/h because anything higher than that just doesn't feel right
good lad
I would argue that the "conscious rider" will remember to turn off ABS, whereas "some idiot" will definitely forget to rearm ABS.
Why would some idiot even ride it?
and you'd be right. that was just petty selfism of him to say that. "who cares if people die, so long as this minor inconvenience stops affecting me".
@@GraveUypo Way too much black and white there, even the conscious driver
ider can forget the damn ABS rearms sometimes, and occasionally even the idiot can remember he disabled the ABS.
But hey, the competent driver should be crafty enough to work around that issue anyways so maybe leave the foolproofing thing alone?
Had a Bros 160 for a while that had mandatory always-on ABS, and it's a fucking dirt bike, so i went in there with the multimeter and the pliers and the terminals and the shrink tubes, and put a little switch i borrowed from a broken electric kettle in to toggle the ABS on or off without having to plop out the fuse.
love the subtle 3/4 full rotation left turn to exit right at the end. Made me lol!
I’m late to the party now but had to say again that you and your team put together to most informative, entertaining and hilarious videos on you tube. Period. You should receive a grammy or an oscar or at least a participatory trophy of some sort. Thank you just isn’t enough. Being in Greece and several cities in China you see lane filtering everywhere but definitely not lane splitting. The authorities encourage the first and seriously frown at the latter. They will just scoop you off the road and deposit you in the median if you’re racing through. The thing is, and I know they occur, I never saw an accident involving a motorcycle while I was there. Now in Thailand, the drivers seem perfectly capable of lane splitting in either direction while driving anything from tuk-tuk to a concrete truck and have no need for any other form of transportation to be in the vicinity to wind up involved in a multiple car pile up, but that, as they say, is another story.
The spin at the end --> GENIUS.
The amount of effort that goes into these videos are unreal, Ryan really puts in so much effort. Knows his stuff and also a cracking sense of humour. All around the best MC Channel without a doubt.
Ps... I feel the same way about traction control on my car... when it under steers on an icy turn... the only way I can safely counter it is to kick the back end out in a controlled power slide to correct the under steer were traction control only makes the understeering worse and takes car control away leaving me as a passenger instead of a driver with rear wheel drive cars
The actual way to safely counter loss of traction in icy conditions is to not have it happen because you have appropriate winter tires and to not drive like a dumbass. If you ever "have" to powerslide, you fucked up.
@@dizzzave357 That's not always practical. In many temperate regions with an oceanic climate, cars will have all weather tyres, and swapping them out for winter tyres on the handful of days a year when ice is a problem just isn't feasible. Thankfully many modern cars are better at dealing with icy surfaces.
You, Yammie & Dan Dan make me a better rider. Thank you.
That zoolander turn was perfect fam
Glad I live in Europe, lane filtering was the first thing I did when I drove my first bike home after getting my license. Congrats on the 1mil subs Ryan, you're killing it!
I live in Rome and without filtering, this place would be a nightmare. When I go back to the US, I am not sure I’ll keep riding. For starters, after three years of lane filtering, I don’t know if I’ll do it subconsciously and get into trouble when I do. Secondly, I don’t want to get hit from behind at a stop light by someone holding their Starbucks in one hand and trying to send a text with the other while they are driving.
@TroTyle You live in Italy?
@@carstenhansen5757 I live in The Netherlands.
@@soldat2501 live in cali then
not legal in all of Europe
These videos are pure art
The turn out and away he does at the end of the video is a next level pun. Well done.