We are experiencing a growing global water shortage.In.the natural cycles of nature it is an eternal element. When you break it down for hydrogen it is lost as an element so now the " scientist"?? Are suggesting we destroy the remaining water for transportation. To Where? Where there is water there is life. None where there is none. The single most precious element in our known galaxy is water. Because that is where there is life. This stupid idea will be the final nail in man kind's casket. Pretty stupid and normal for in the moment humans.😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, I did enjoy watching what you put together. They go through a great deal of expense, trying to make a point I’ve been hearing and seeing this kind of stuff most of my life. Look forward to one day maybe a lot more action a lot less talk from these folks.
I admit I enjoyed the video, even though it didn't actually say anything beyond repeating over and over again, cars could be powered by water. Clearly all the pros listed repeatedly are obvious. I would like a production that actually concentrated on a Prototype vehicle; showing how the item actually was laid out and drove. Perhaps showing performance, mpg of distilled water..etc etc. I think this would go well beyond a very simplistic WATER GREAT, GAS AND ELECTRIC bad approach to documentary production. This video has more of the feel of an "Ancient Aliens" isn't it possible thatl, than an actual proposal of fact.
What I don't understand is how oxidation of electrolyzed Hydrogen could possibly produce more energy than the energy required for electrolysis, How is this not a "perpetual motion" machine, which is, of course, impossible? It takes a LOT more energy to electrolyze water than you get by running the resulting Hydrogen and Oxygen through a fuel cell.
I wonder that too. Maybe it's equipped with a small fusion reactor, the same Lockheed Martin said (in 2017) they would put in a F-16 with a plasma engine by 2024. 🤷♂️
Marketing morons is the problem.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
What you people don't understand is that the gas engine is was originally called a nitrogen engine the gas only prepares the incitement to burn the nitrogen in the air which is about 85 percent nitrogen.
@@user-ys4kb8jd6p nitrogen doesnt burn.. theyre reporting hydrogen.. to create hydrogen require electric current.. it take more electrical energy to create than it returns when its "oxidised" back into water.. the maths isnt difficult or complicated
Producing hydrogen via electrolysis is energetically expensive. Today, most hydrogen is produced catalytically from methane. I expect we will soon see a Thunderfoot video busting this.
there have been Hydrogen vehicle years ago but they were shut down by the Automotive industry because it would cost to much to change over and the OIL industry would lose to much money.
@@chloeleedow7250 Back in the mid 60's my father was working with a guy that built a car, it was UGLY but it was a working car, I don't know if it was Hydrogen or Nuclear but it would run forever both he and his car disappeared one day, never heard from him again. someone didn't want his technology to get out.
Also, during the Carter years of 55mph and gas shortages, many vehicles in rural areas were converted to switch between gas and propane. There are some propane or natural gas vehicles still out there..
Thats NOT the reason at all.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
Destilled water is usually made of normal tap water by boiling and evaporating it, what source of energy should be used for evaporating water to make this fuel clean? Woun't be there more energy losses than with EV?
It can be easily done with some water pressure and osmosis filtration. The head scratcher is the electrolysis part, it takes a lot of energy to split water molecules. Doing it fast enough to keep up with a running engine and still remain compact enough to fit inside a car is 1st grade sci-fi...
Hydrogen and CNG,(Compressed Methane+ Ethane) are similar technologies. Turning water into hydrogen and oxygen takes considerable electrical energy. So the environmental impact depends entirely and how/method the electricity is made. My guess Thorium nuclear technology could be used to make power to make hydrogen, which is then burnt conventionally. Range would still be about half a tank of petrol. Water powered? Impossible 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics won't change any time soon. The day you fill your tank with water and drive down the road might exist in heaven but not in the physical real world started when God said let their be light. (According to Hubble 13 plus billion years ago.)Was this article put out on 1 April.?
This is in my opinion the ultimate solution. It actually is emissions is its own fuel source. People will need to have perhaps a system at home, of a distillery and the world would have to have a source of distilled water available for longer distance driving. In the long run, this could very easily be the ultimate solution.
I do agree with this concept from Toyota. If coal and water could move a locomotive engine. A replacement of coal from a combustion engine, being a certain form of vaporization of water may be an alternative solution. Coal and water engines were prematurely abondaned because oil was seen as a quick solution. But now because of the environmental impact, this method has to be revisited. Oil and gas has generated a lot of wealth to oil producing countries so some won't welcome this because it will ruin their economies. I don't agree that this may be a certain form of a pipe dream. It may be a solution to our global warming.
Water weight is about30% over the weight of gasoline.What will be the cost of distilling the water and the pollution from energy production to distill the water.?
An excellent advertisement for Toyota and for their forward thinking. BUT ..... I'm still at a total loss as to what is happening. Yes, I understand that a combustion engine can use hydrogen as a fuel in place of a hydrocarbon such as petrol; were they not experimenting with this decades ago? And yes, I understand that the proposal is to produce the hydrogen from distilled water at 'run time' via electrolysis; again has been known technology for a long, long time. BUT!! electrolysis requires electricity (the name gives a clue here); where are we getting this electricity from? I love the idea of this, and indeed cannot understand why we haven't got here sooner, albeit using surplus renewable electricity to electrolyse water and store the hydrogen. I just don't understand what this overall process is, as without another input, the energy input does not balance with the energy output of this proposal. I'm not knocking it, I just don't understand it presently.
True but e.v.s got carried away with controling society tech ,like locking drivers in, and automatically driving them to the authorities.or having e f.programmed with CBDC banking.CONTROLLING society
I'm glad this technology is finally being proposed for cars. Fuel cell technology, based on electrolysis, has been around since the 1960s with the Apollo space program. Toyota's use of simple water is ingenious.
Well if they can pull this off, just think, Water powered generators for homes and businesses would mean no more wire distribution of electricity. What a wonderful thought..
@davidwatson3921 David, do you honestly believe that utility as well as the oil companies are going to allow something like a water engine to be produced for the general market? I don't think so! I can't see the Federal governments of the world allowing such a thing to be patented and marketed either. Imagine the massive worldwide unemployment that would be created if all oil companies, utility companies and the distribution companies for those products were suddenly done away with. If a water engine is possible, it may happen in time, but ONLY AFTER those companies have somehow gotten control of the technology so that they will still benefit. The same thing is already happening, as oil and utility companies are investing in solar energy technology etc. When they get a firm grip on the technology, then, and only then will some 'miraculous discovery' be announced to the general public. People have experimented with water engines for many years.
@@gordjohn2322 well look at it this way, when a storm comes the corporates have no control over what it does, now imagine a technological storm that they have no control over! About employment, well just think, at present there are cities full of people that don’t produce anything real. They just push the money around and the companies they work for are skimming all the time. When push comes to shove and this storm creates a whole new system, we’re just going to have to hang on and go for the ride.
It sounds nice but I don’t see it happening in my lifetime. I’m 80 and I think I will be a multi-millionaire because of my TSLA stock before this engine is a reality. Good luck!
It's how they use to run vehicles in the past , and that inventive motor would be a pleasant move to drive without charging or fueling with gas. An invented circular motion of liquid to keep the motor running would work. A certain mound of sorts to run in motor once turned on to circulate the motor liquid to fuel motor to keep it running would work. And having it recycled back in vehicle so it won't waste battery or fuel
What is the proposed MPG for these engines , and who will control the delivery and price for this water, and where will this water come from, it’s not like you can fill up your car with your garden hose .
I hope Tayota will intergrate this technology into water fueled tractors, hand tractors, all kinds of agricultural equipment which requires an ICE technology, transportation trucks, buses and trains etcetera. This would mean cheap sourcers of food and low cost of living. Also this technology would be ground breaking for aerospace science - water-fueled jet engines! Then we can travel around the world and put satellites in space for tuppence.
This idea of electrolysis on board is groundbreaking. It solves the hydrogen permutation of components with the use of hydrogen tanks. One of the major drawbacks of hydrogen usage. It also solves the need for extensive mining operations for battery ingredients. But what happens when the temperature drops below 0 Celsius or 32 Fahrenheit? What power do you use in order to keep the water in liquid form? Also the colder the water becomes the more energy is needed for electrolysis to work. Just wondering how they solved these problems.
Me too. I know there have been some breakthroughs in electrolytic hydrogen production in recent years, but to be able to produce (on board) the liters per minute necessary to continuously run an engine is a huge deal.. Knowing big oil though, we'll probably start seeing some untimely deaths of Toyota corporate executives and engineers. I hate to sound like a pessimist, but it always seems like the good guys in the hyper mileage gas carburetor and hydrogen production/engine innovation game end up dead or with their idea purchased for a huge sum and shelved, never to see the light of day again.
@@clflyguy No kidding! After all, how many times has this idea been brought up before? Not to mention having actually been built! ======================================================================================================================
Marketing morons is the problem.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
Turning water (oxidised hydrogen) into Hydrogen is akin to turning ash back into wood. It can't happen because the energy required to do it exceeds the energy produced.
While this video plays like a big ad for Toyota. HHO powered engines have been demonstrated by inventors for decades. As someone else pointed out it normally takes more power to perform the electrolysis than you get back out in BTU's in burning the hydrogen. In this video no mention is made about what happens to the oxygen produced? Is it vented away, or captured and reused during the combustion process? I can recall my science teacher performing that experiment where they use the glass "H" tube device to generate H2 in one column and oxygen in the other. He would fill a test tube with oxygen and poke a glowing stick into the O2 and it would burst into flame. When he repeated that using a lit match stick into the H2, it would make a loud pop as the H2 burned. He then mixed both gases into a test tube and lit the mixture and the test tube blew across the room and shattered against a cinder block wall. He was careful to hold it so it when it blew it would not fly towards his students. I also recall him having to add sulfuric acid to the distilled water to make it more conductive. So what is Toyota adding to their distilled water to make it more conductive and prevent freezing? Based on that science demo I would think mixing both gases would produce the most power, versus using only H2 and air. Would be nice to have a video that really explains the combustion process more thoroughly! With all the water vapor produced would the engine need to be made out of stainless steel to control corrosion?
well now you have to get Distilled water and that takes power either Electric or gas. or the SUN if you have enough time for the sun to evaporate your pan of water.
Amazing that so much effort has been put into this video about a complete fantasy. The reality that the power required to produce the hydrogen by electrolysis will be much more than just using this electricity to drive an electric motor is completely ignored.
In your example you're also ignoring the energy required to create, transport and charge batteries or pump up, refine and transport fuel. Considering the major losses in those chains electrolysis probably won't be that much of a hurdle. Getting enough water (sea water considering fresh water shortages but more complex to distil), pressurising hydrogen to liquid form for ease of transport and storage efficiently and finding a fool proof way to safely have idiots who can't fill up a tank with unpressurised liquid without bungling it up use a system to fill up their vehicle will be bigger hurdles. But I agree this video is complete fantasy, having a water tank and electrolysis inside a car is nonsense on multiple levels.
@@royh6526 apology for the confusion, my putting result between quotation apparently was too much subtle of a sarcasm 🤭but by stating that I actually wanted to point out the revenue generated by the video, (could be hundreds fold of the "energy" stored in the form of financial currency) 😉
If anyone should be developing a water car it should be the team being led by the hardest working, innovator of the most technologically advanced systems ever dreampt of and the most respected Owner/CEO with the brightest people in the world entering the workforce able to work anywhere they want are standing in line 10 deep to apply for every position Tesla and Space X has to offer as they come available.
The entire EV industry is destroying itself! High initial purchase price, lacking infrastructure, ridiculous cost for replacement batteries, poor resale value, lack of decent mileage per charge, high chance of fire, higher cost in tyres, due to the extra weight, expensive service costs, all these reasons will destroy the EV market!!
If you can produce enough hydrogen then this is the greatest breakthrough ever , and car mechanics will still be able to exercise their trade , where ev tech is a new concept that changes mechanics practices .
I believe the sooner Toyota bring the engine to market with the refuel system, Lets the consumer to make a mountain of decision and a way to truly preserve the earths resources and build now into the future!
Stanley Meyer invented the worlds most SUPERIOR water conversion technology! COMPLETELY 100% safe and explosion proof due to the use of pure tap water in the tank! The only point the mixture becomes dangerous is at the Spark/Injector inside the combustion chamber!
This smacks of an extended Toyota advert! Please don’t get me wrong; I own a fabulously designed Toyota which is reliable and beautifully designed. I am an engineer who is familiar with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and thus find the premise of using electricity (from some, undisclosed, on board, supply to electrolyse water at a rapid rate) completely in contravention of the laws of physics….The energy balance doesn’t work in that direction: wonderful and fanciful daydream!
Strangely I was working on water cars 24 years ago using distilled water to change in to hydrogen and as from now Cars must be Hydrogen or distilled water electrolysis systems. Toyota needs this now.
With a tank capacity of 6.33 kg in the Nexo, it would cost premium gasoline-powered car money to fill up, around $164.64 to be reasonably precise. That plush Nexo Limited with the cooled seats has a range of 354 miles due to its big wheels, which means a spend of $0.465 per mile in fuel alone.
It cannot happen Toyota this is the way to go,I would like to be one of the first people in America to have one them cars what a great move toward stopping the greedy gas companys,me being a Toyota owner all my life,I would like to one of the first people in the United States to show every one this is the way to go for the future *******
Why is this technology only associated with cars? Ships, power stations, space travel, indeed anywhere power is needed this technology has a universal use.
Why do you have to add water, a close system would not add water. Also electric to power the separation is done while it being charged would mean some gas would need to be stored.
Jim Sim...I am not a rocket scientist ..q 1 .. where does the electricity to split water come from while on the move ..q 2 ..from the animations I see a huge amount of tanks pressure vessels andpumps tech etc .. this looks like it could end up expensive and technical ..more touch screens and exterior interference...
Toyota's water car is a variation of their hybrid technology. Here the wasted energy from regenerative braking has the option to go to battery as well as electrolyzer, and on to ICE.
This sounds awesome, I'm seeing three problems coming from this. Foresight > 1- mechanics, maintenance and repair 2 - vehicle accident containment 3 - The automobile company's warranties covering the vehicle for 10 years to justify the cost and reduce junkyards. Just to scratch the Pandora's box of Hurdles once it's open.
Hurrah ! what a breakthrough ! I like the idea of a water powered car. I only hope they are NOT too expensive to make in large numbers. Let's hope the competition doesn't ditch this innovation.
1) The electrolysis process requires more power than it yields (negative net energy yield). 2) The distillation of billions of gallons of water requires a tremendous amount of energy. 3) The distribution system for billions of gallons of distilled water doesn't exist.
Someone has not done their homework. Hydrogen and water are not synonimous. All liquid and gas fossil fuels contain a lot of hydrogen. Hydrogen is far from green too. Producing it results in vast amounts of carbon-dioxide. PV power systems are not exactly much good either. To electrolyse water at a reasonable rate, you need about 20V. So a 1kW system would produce 50A peak. Lets say it could produce 50A continuous. That would need over half an hour to produce a mere gram of hydrogen.
MY HOPE IS THIS TECHNOLOGY HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY. I WILL BE ONE THAT WILL BUY IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SIGN ME UP. THIS WAY WE CAN GET RID OF GAS STATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON GAS. AND IT'S BETTER FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.
We allready have water shortage now , Some areas in a droughy Ground water levels dropping every where some areas of this world HAVE NO WATER lake Alltona is down by 20' thats Atlantas waket California is needs so much water now you can't water your grass , wash your car , can you see tahe a resturant will now charge you $2.00 far a glass of water "THINK it is not elleagel yet" In teresting they have shown gas engines being bulit They have said a lot but nothing said
There is a reason Toyota one of the biggest and most successful car maker wasn't fully throwing in the towel on actual engines. The batteries used in EV vehicles are not sustainable and wreak havoc on the environment but nobody wants to talk about that or know it. One EV battery does so much damage to the planet it's crazy and the horrible slave labour type conditions of people getting the rare earth metals is bad too. Even if it's still a ways off Toyota has the right idea! 💪
There's some kits you can buy or just diy...easy to install or even ask your mechanic to help you out,not fully relying on hidrogen but cutting your car gasoline consumption...😊 anyway,you can have a gasoline car running on hidrogen and help the environment while the big manufacturers don't give you the fully working water car 😮😊
It takes a lot of electricity to change water into hydrogen and oxygen. Where does that come from? That is the crux of one problem. How fast can this process make the hydrogen fuel? How much hydrogen is required to make a 150hp ICE engine function. Some hydrogen will need to be stored under pressure to accommodate the turn key go now demand of the automobile.What volume of hydrogen is needed to combust and make pistons go up and down? Will a storage tank be required for it? Or can this magical engine electrolyze a liter of water into its component atoms in minutes. What powers that process alchemy? I am not convinced.
This is like "Back to the Future" and discovering the Flux Capacitor! Awesome News and brilliant Engineering. Toyota, Thank you for working to save our Planet 👏👏💅
I said a few years ago we need to a hydrogen engine that extracts the hydrogen from its own water tank. I see distilled water is mentioned by some. When I was in motor trade in the early 70’s we connected a filter unit to a water tap that “turned into distilled water for use in car batteries. I wonder if distilled by this process would be suitable.
Dean Kamen invented a new water distiller called the Slingshot. Produces a thousand liters of pure water a day using less electricity than a microwave oven.
I know its a simple point but how do you start the engine,I note from your simplistic description that hydrogen is not stored on the car so to start electrolysis to produce enough you need a battery to split the hydrogen to be able to start the engine.I know your channel side steps facts that might mess up the facts.Most of your facts are anything but.If only life was as simple as you seem to be.
I also believe if Toyota would present this engine to the racing world, it will gain a force of public demand and private that would be over whelming in all the world and change not only cars and souses industries also the Engine industry all a cross all vehicles that use a engine of large to small sizes.
Just a quick question, if you have a water driven automobile engine, what happens to the water in the tank at -25°C temperature especially when parked overnight??
After reading a few of the comments FIRST, I began watching this video and it confirmed my suspicions. It's RUBBISH (mechanical engineer here). Don't waste your time.
I believe if this was the case, what is the holdup and making this to the market where people could get their hands on it. Not just big manufactures blowing a lot of steam. 😂
Corruption. There are a lot of powerful people that will lose a lot of money if this hits the market. Plus, the governments incentive for EV's is control. They want to control you. This takes their control away.
Hydrogen will be great as long as they can get lots of Horse power out of them. I've seen little Hydrogen engine at car swap meets, that don't produce enough power to do anything other than turn a tiny fan to show it's actually working.
I'm all for it but Ford has already announced that they're doing the same thing weeks before Toyota but should they partner up for the infrastructure needed to refuel the vehicle would say alot about making it happen to making the hydrogen engine a reality
This defy's basic physics. There is zero gain to produce hydrogen from H2O to then combust it to produce H2O....where does the energy come from? This is just not possible. I say this as an Engineer with a solid knowledge of both Chemistry and Physics.
The problem with commuter transportation is too many cars on the roads and massive traffic jams are everywhere. No more lands to build more roads. With this water car will add another 1 million cars to the already existing population of cars. Crazy. Right now we need to expedite depopulation of cars and remove more roads in the city and suburbs. More ebikes and escooters are the solution to solve transportation problems.
@tiantong7063 I would be very interested in hearing your explanation as to why you feel there will be an extra 1 million cars on the road. Remember, as we transition away from gasoline powered vehicles, the electric or hydrogen or whatever type comes next, will be REPLACING the gasoline cars we have today. They will soon cease to exist. I agree we need to stop using our limited amount of land for highway construction as these roadways quite often run through our most productive agriculture land. The total answer to congestion is not ebikes, etc., though they may help ease the parking congestion within a city. I live in a part of the world where sometimes winter temperatures can drop down to minus 40 to 50 below zero. In those conditions, what do you think the chances are of me riding to work on my bike? Like about a ZERO chance! I dear say you wouldn't either. The answer to congestion is better public transportation networks that serve the needs of the people. If I could get to any part of the city in a comfortable, relaxed, economical and timely manner by stepping aboard a bus, subway, train or even some combination, sure I'll do that and leave my car at home. However, I won't walk 20 blocks from the last stopping point to my destination either. Make those methods of moving people powered by CLEAN electricity or some other kind of non-polluting methods and you'll find me 100% in favour.
The narrator didn't completely explain precisely how this theoretical engine works. How does a fuel cell convert water to electricity without energy? Is it a physical / chemical reaction? Is there an onboard generator to support electrolysis? I guess all of that will be explained once the water engine actually exists.
People only see "water engine" (as the video point out) and that water is the only exhaust.. But we MUST look at the whole picture of the environmental impact! To create Hydrogen is by "extract" it from water.. There just there is the issue. It takes a lot of energy to produce hydrogen from water. So looking at the whole chain from producing hydrogen and to consuming it and create water back again is not environmentally friendly any longer. (should we use coal, oil, nuclear, solar or wind energy to produce hydrogen.) It is like saying: "Look how environment friendly my electric viecle is with no exhaust." 😅 When the electricity may come from a coal driven powerplant that spew out big black smoke..😂 So the shortsighted people that just look at the car and if it has a exhaust pipe or not. Or if water 💦 is coming out. Don't care from were the energy is coming from or how it were produced.. As if: "It is out of sight and out of mind." 😅
At 10:30, this video shows you an electric power source and an idealized diagram that implies the use of electrolysis. At 11:00, the narration talks about using the electric current to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, so hydrogen doesn't have to be stored on board. Unfortunately, they lie by omission by not telling you that the electrolysis is going to take a huge amount of electricity. Unless somebody invented Mr. Fusion, that huge amount of electricity is going to have to come from something like a huge EV battery. Even if we get wireless electricity transmission through the roadbed or solar cells all over the car, you'd be better off using a conventional EV motor than going through all this silliness of an ICE engine that still produces NOx (nitrogen oxide) air pollution. Their claim of "trace gases" is another lie; there is plenty of NOx produced. ICE engines are limited by all the thermodynamic limitations of Rankine style heat engines, friction from the piston rings and all the other sliding and moving parts and complications and losses from multi-gear transmissions.
Is this a Toyota commercial? It looks to me like a CEO has a brilliant idea and gets all the engineers behind him that hope to get a promotion, all others will go to other projects or companies, like I did when I was confronted with a "brilliant solution" that did not make any engineering sense. Good luck Toyota!
As a matter of fact, the CEO they're showing in this presentation is not even currently the boss, he has stepped down and Toyota has a new CEO who is younger. This is definitely not current information.
Hydrogen as fuel seems to be the missing link, IF the rich will allow us to have it. We already recycle cars, aluminum, we CAN recycle glass be we don't. FUEL has been the concern for decades now. Pollution has been allowed to be the dark elephant on the planet because the rich were making too much money selling crude. All of a sudden, some people are now concerned, but the rich are still getting richer. Developing a vehicle or device that can create its own hydrogen, create power and move a nation would be wonderful for the world. It is exactly what we need. BUT will the rich allow this? They will push the government to stop this because it will block their profits, this will be a huge fight for Toyota to try to get to the publics availability. it won't be easy. The Big Three in car manufacturers are at the end of their possible manufacturing life. They are running out of ideas and the EV does not seem to be the answer, it is the answer for the moment, but cost will kill it as will the battery powering them. Perhaps a hydrogen generator that can power a small turbine to generate power to run the EV motors. If the Toyota hydrogen generator can work, and we have no reason to believe it can't or isn't at present, think of all the power possibilities that can be offered to the world, IF THE RICH STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM IT!!!! Congrats to Toyota for having the moxy to actually go after this technology when everyone else wants to play with the present EV tech... If allowed, Toyota will have a huge winner with this tech.
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We are experiencing a growing global water shortage.In.the natural cycles of nature it is an eternal element. When you break it down for hydrogen it is lost as an element so now the " scientist"?? Are suggesting we destroy the remaining water for transportation. To Where? Where there is water there is life. None where there is none. The single most precious element in our known galaxy is water. Because that is where there is life. This stupid idea will be the final nail in man kind's casket. Pretty stupid and normal for in the moment humans.😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, I did enjoy watching what you put together. They go through a great deal of expense, trying to make a point I’ve been hearing and seeing this kind of stuff most of my life. Look forward to one day maybe a lot more action a lot less talk from these folks.
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See "brianstrong292" comment below.
I admit I enjoyed the video, even though it didn't actually say anything beyond repeating over and over again, cars could be powered by water. Clearly all the pros listed repeatedly are obvious. I would like a production that actually concentrated on a Prototype vehicle; showing how the item actually was laid out and drove. Perhaps showing performance, mpg of distilled water..etc etc. I think this would go well beyond a very simplistic WATER GREAT, GAS AND ELECTRIC bad approach to documentary production. This video has more of the feel of an "Ancient Aliens" isn't it possible thatl, than an actual proposal of fact.
What I don't understand is how oxidation of electrolyzed Hydrogen could possibly produce more energy than the energy required for electrolysis, How is this not a "perpetual motion" machine, which is, of course, impossible? It takes a LOT more energy to electrolyze water than you get by running the resulting Hydrogen and Oxygen through a fuel cell.
I wonder that too. Maybe it's equipped with a small fusion reactor, the same Lockheed Martin said (in 2017) they would put in a F-16 with a plasma engine by 2024.
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Exactly. Might as well reduce CO2 and run on gasoline exhaust :) This is a pipe dream, and the pipe is packed with serious drugs.
Marketing morons is the problem.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
What you people don't understand is that the gas engine is was originally called a nitrogen engine the gas only prepares the incitement to burn the nitrogen in the air which is about 85 percent nitrogen.
@@user-ys4kb8jd6p nitrogen doesnt burn.. theyre reporting hydrogen.. to create hydrogen require electric current.. it take more electrical energy to create than it returns when its "oxidised" back into water.. the maths isnt difficult or complicated
Producing hydrogen via electrolysis is energetically expensive. Today, most hydrogen is produced catalytically from methane. I expect we will soon see a Thunderfoot video busting this.
let them have fun a bit and grab some money, they need to eat
Let’s get it going before big oil shuts it down AGAIN!!!!!
there have been Hydrogen vehicle years ago but they were shut down by the Automotive industry because it would cost to much to change over and the OIL industry would lose to much money.
Yeah the oil companies would be have way too much to lose and they have the money to manipulate things so that makes a lot of sense bud.
Hydrogen is incredibly energy intensive to produce, maybe do some research
@@chloeleedow7250 Back in the mid 60's my father was working with a guy that built a car, it was UGLY but it was a working car, I don't know if it was Hydrogen or Nuclear but it would run forever both he and his car disappeared one day, never heard from him again. someone didn't want his technology to get out.
Also, during the Carter years of 55mph and gas shortages, many vehicles in rural areas were converted to switch between gas and propane. There are some propane or natural gas vehicles still out there..
Thats NOT the reason at all.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
Destilled water is usually made of normal tap water by boiling and evaporating it, what source of energy should be used for evaporating water to make this fuel clean? Woun't be there more energy losses than with EV?
burn more coals, no other way, always has been 😉
It can be easily done with some water pressure and osmosis filtration. The head scratcher is the electrolysis part, it takes a lot of energy to split water molecules. Doing it fast enough to keep up with a running engine and still remain compact enough to fit inside a car is 1st grade sci-fi...
Hydrogen and CNG,(Compressed Methane+ Ethane) are similar technologies. Turning water into hydrogen and oxygen takes considerable electrical energy. So the environmental impact depends entirely and how/method the electricity is made. My guess Thorium nuclear technology could be used to make power to make hydrogen, which is then burnt conventionally. Range would still be about half a tank of petrol. Water powered? Impossible 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics won't change any time soon. The day you fill your tank with water and drive down the road might exist in heaven but not in the physical real world started when God said let their be light. (According to Hubble 13 plus billion years ago.)Was this article put out on 1 April.?
This is in my opinion the ultimate solution. It actually is emissions is its own fuel source. People will need to have perhaps a system at home, of a distillery and the world would have to have a source of distilled water available for longer distance driving. In the long run, this could very easily be the ultimate solution.
I do agree with this concept from Toyota. If coal and water could move a locomotive engine. A replacement of coal from a combustion engine, being a certain form of vaporization of water may be an alternative solution.
Coal and water engines were prematurely abondaned because oil was seen as a quick solution. But now because of the environmental impact, this method has to be revisited.
Oil and gas has generated a lot of wealth to oil producing countries so some won't welcome this because it will ruin their economies.
I don't agree that this may be a certain form of a pipe dream. It may be a solution to our global warming.
sure, in about 5-ish
hundreds of years.
Water weight is about30% over the weight of gasoline.What will be the cost of distilling the water and the pollution from energy production to distill the water.?
yeaah, very easy, just burn some coals or rubber tyres or throw anything, as long as it gets the water boiling
I think we all know this is about as likely as cars running on pixie dust.
So am I understanding this correctly that if need be, you can literally just pour a bottle of distilled water into the tank?
An excellent advertisement for Toyota and for their forward thinking. BUT ..... I'm still at a total loss as to what is happening. Yes, I understand that a combustion engine can use hydrogen as a fuel in place of a hydrocarbon such as petrol; were they not experimenting with this decades ago? And yes, I understand that the proposal is to produce the hydrogen from distilled water at 'run time' via electrolysis; again has been known technology for a long, long time. BUT!! electrolysis requires electricity (the name gives a clue here); where are we getting this electricity from?
I love the idea of this, and indeed cannot understand why we haven't got here sooner, albeit using surplus renewable electricity to electrolyse water and store the hydrogen. I just don't understand what this overall process is, as without another input, the energy input does not balance with the energy output of this proposal. I'm not knocking it, I just don't understand it presently.
just a bullshit of a video ulitized to generate other forms of energy (currency)
All those moving parts? Far, far more expensive to fix and operate than EVs. Is appealing to the not so necessarily bright.
True but e.v.s got carried away with controling society tech ,like locking drivers in, and automatically driving them to the authorities.or having e f.programmed with CBDC banking.CONTROLLING society
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@@puckchew :) LOL LOL You're funny! :)
thanks @@gordjohn2322 but
@slowpoke3102 started it, I was virtually rofl of his last sentence there 🤭
fuel companies wont like this and as for water powered cars goverment wont like it will miss out on billions in taxes
I'm glad this technology is finally being proposed for cars. Fuel cell technology, based on electrolysis, has been around since the 1960s with the Apollo space program. Toyota's use of simple water is ingenious.
Well if they can pull this off, just think, Water powered generators for homes and businesses would mean no more wire distribution of electricity. What a wonderful thought..
FANTASY
@davidwatson3921 David, do you honestly believe that utility as well as the oil companies are going to allow something like a water engine to be produced for the general market? I don't think so! I can't see the Federal governments of the world allowing such a thing to be patented and marketed either. Imagine the massive worldwide unemployment that would be created if all oil companies, utility companies and the distribution companies for those products were suddenly done away with. If a water engine is possible, it may happen in time, but ONLY AFTER those companies have somehow gotten control of the technology so that they will still benefit. The same thing is already happening, as oil and utility companies are investing in solar energy technology etc. When they get a firm grip on the technology, then, and only then will some 'miraculous discovery' be announced to the general public. People have experimented with water engines for many years.
@@gordjohn2322 well look at it this way, when a storm comes the corporates have no control over what it does, now imagine a technological storm that they have no control over! About employment, well just think, at present there are cities full of people that don’t produce anything real. They just push the money around and the companies they work for are skimming all the time. When push comes to shove and this storm creates a whole new system, we’re just going to have to hang on and go for the ride.
I would think that it would take a huge battery to convert water to hydrogen just to start the engine
Unless there is a small charge of Hyg, to start the process, stored onboard.
Mr. Fusion?
Regular car battery could do it. Doesn't take much electricity. Then once the engines running the alternator kicks in.
It sounds nice but I don’t see it happening in my lifetime. I’m 80 and I think I will be a multi-millionaire because of my TSLA stock before this engine is a reality. Good luck!
It's how they use to run vehicles in the past , and that inventive motor would be a pleasant move to drive without charging or fueling with gas. An invented circular motion of liquid to keep the motor running would work. A certain mound of sorts to run in motor once turned on to circulate the motor liquid to fuel motor to keep it running would work. And having it recycled back in vehicle so it won't waste battery or fuel
What about freezing weather?
What is the proposed MPG for these engines , and who will control the delivery and price for this water, and where will this water come from, it’s not like you can fill up your car with your garden hose .
noone said you can't
I hope Tayota will intergrate this technology into water fueled tractors, hand tractors, all kinds of agricultural equipment which requires an ICE technology, transportation trucks, buses and trains etcetera. This would mean cheap sourcers of food and low cost of living.
Also this technology would be ground breaking for aerospace science - water-fueled jet engines! Then we can travel around the world and put satellites in space for tuppence.
This idea of electrolysis on board is groundbreaking. It solves the hydrogen permutation of components with the use of hydrogen tanks. One of the major drawbacks of hydrogen usage. It also solves the need for extensive mining operations for battery ingredients. But what happens when the temperature drops below 0 Celsius or 32 Fahrenheit? What power do you use in order to keep the water in liquid form? Also the colder the water becomes the more energy is needed for electrolysis to work. Just wondering how they solved these problems.
Me too. I know there have been some breakthroughs in electrolytic hydrogen production in recent years, but to be able to produce (on board) the liters per minute necessary to continuously run an engine is a huge deal.. Knowing big oil though, we'll probably start seeing some untimely deaths of Toyota corporate executives and engineers. I hate to sound like a pessimist, but it always seems like the good guys in the hyper mileage gas carburetor and hydrogen production/engine innovation game end up dead or with their idea purchased for a huge sum and shelved, never to see the light of day again.
@@clflyguy No kidding! After all, how many times has this idea been brought up before? Not to mention having actually been built!
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@@clflyguyhopely every humans knowledge's gonna be little more higher. Los Angeles ghetto Cozi.😢
Marketing morons is the problem.. a simple energy equation will tell you.. hydrogen ISNT a fuel.. its simply an energy storage allbeit bloody difficult to manage.. hydrigen can only be made via electrolysis.. electricity in.. hydrogen/oxy out.. to "burn" it in an IC engine makes NO sense if you only get back 25% of what you put in.. a fuel cell via electruc motors returns 80-90% efficiency.. so.. WHY TF WOULD YOU!.. marketing morons regurgitating what other marketing morons tell them.. without understanding an oz of the engineering or physics.. such a simple equation they still cant grasp
Turning water (oxidised hydrogen) into Hydrogen is akin to turning ash back into wood.
It can't happen because the energy required to do it exceeds the energy produced.
The car company and oil company have kept this off the markets starting in the 1920s.
While this video plays like a big ad for Toyota. HHO powered engines have been demonstrated by inventors for decades. As someone else pointed out it normally takes more power to perform the electrolysis than you get back out in BTU's in burning the hydrogen. In this video no mention is made about what happens to the oxygen produced? Is it vented away, or captured and reused during the combustion process?
I can recall my science teacher performing that experiment where they use the glass "H" tube device to generate H2 in one column and oxygen in the other. He would fill a test tube with oxygen and poke a glowing stick into the O2 and it would burst into flame. When he repeated that using a lit match stick into the H2, it would make a loud pop as the H2 burned. He then mixed both gases into a test tube and lit the mixture and the test tube blew across the room and shattered against a cinder block wall. He was careful to hold it so it when it blew it would not fly towards his students. I also recall him having to add sulfuric acid to the distilled water to make it more conductive. So what is Toyota adding to their distilled water to make it more conductive and prevent freezing? Based on that science demo I would think mixing both gases would produce the most power, versus using only H2 and air. Would be nice to have a video that really explains the combustion process more thoroughly! With all the water vapor produced would the engine need to be made out of stainless steel to control corrosion?
well now you have to get Distilled water and that takes power either Electric or gas. or the SUN if you have enough time for the sun to evaporate your pan of water.
Amazing that so much effort has been put into this video about a complete fantasy. The reality that the power required to produce the hydrogen by electrolysis will be much more than just using this electricity to drive an electric motor is completely ignored.
yea, but the "result" generated will be hundreds fold.
@@puckchew ?? What result? And how did you come to that conclusion?
In your example you're also ignoring the energy required to create, transport and charge batteries or pump up, refine and transport fuel. Considering the major losses in those chains electrolysis probably won't be that much of a hurdle. Getting enough water (sea water considering fresh water shortages but more complex to distil), pressurising hydrogen to liquid form for ease of transport and storage efficiently and finding a fool proof way to safely have idiots who can't fill up a tank with unpressurised liquid without bungling it up use a system to fill up their vehicle will be bigger hurdles.
But I agree this video is complete fantasy, having a water tank and electrolysis inside a car is nonsense on multiple levels.
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apology for the confusion, my putting result between quotation apparently was too much subtle of a sarcasm 🤭but by stating that I actually wanted to point out the revenue generated by the video, (could be hundreds fold of the "energy" stored in the form of financial currency) 😉
If anyone should be developing a water car it should be the team being led by the hardest working, innovator of the most technologically advanced systems ever dreampt of and the most respected Owner/CEO with the brightest people in the world entering the workforce able to work anywhere they want are standing in line 10 deep to apply for every position Tesla and Space X has to offer as they come available.
He already is!
What is the mpg(of water)? Does a water car actually exist now? How good is it?
It doesn't exist.
The entire EV industry is destroying itself! High initial purchase price, lacking infrastructure, ridiculous cost for replacement batteries, poor resale value, lack of decent mileage per charge, high chance of fire, higher cost in tyres, due to the extra weight, expensive service costs, all these reasons will destroy the EV market!!
You are exactly right, and Elon knows it!
and yet the ev market grows exponentially.
with the massive support of PVP industry,
without the help from the sun, not sure EV could get this popular
If you can produce enough hydrogen then this is the greatest breakthrough ever , and car mechanics will still be able to exercise their trade , where ev tech is a new concept that changes mechanics practices .
EVs were the first cars so it is the original tech
I believe the sooner Toyota bring the engine to market with the refuel system, Lets the consumer to make a mountain of decision and a way to truly preserve the earths resources and build now into the future!
Stanley Meyer invented the worlds most SUPERIOR water conversion technology! COMPLETELY 100% safe and explosion proof due to the use of pure tap water in the tank! The only point the mixture becomes dangerous is at the Spark/Injector inside the combustion chamber!
This smacks of an extended Toyota advert!
Please don’t get me wrong; I own a fabulously designed Toyota which is reliable and beautifully designed.
I am an engineer who is familiar with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and thus find the premise of using electricity (from some, undisclosed, on board, supply to electrolyse water at a rapid rate) completely in contravention of the laws of physics….The energy balance doesn’t work in that direction: wonderful and fanciful daydream!
It is a relief both for the environment and all developing countries as well.🎉
Strangely I was working on water cars 24 years ago using distilled water to change in to hydrogen and as from now Cars must be Hydrogen or distilled water electrolysis systems. Toyota needs this now.
I bought a Hyundai Nexo and I love it besides the station scarcity it's a great car
With a tank capacity of 6.33 kg in the Nexo, it would cost premium gasoline-powered car money to fill up, around $164.64 to be reasonably precise. That plush Nexo Limited with the cooled seats has a range of 354 miles due to its big wheels, which means a spend of $0.465 per mile in fuel alone.
The source of electricity for the electrolysis was not mentioned so this might be fake info.
of course it is
It cannot happen Toyota this is the way to go,I would like to be one of the first people in America to have one them cars what a great move toward stopping the greedy gas companys,me being a Toyota owner all my life,I would like to one of the first people in the United States to show every one this is the way to go for the future *******
For cold weather, water get freeze, we need to consider to resolve issue as well
I love that idea of water power ! 👍😁 Thanks for sharing !..
Why is this technology only associated with cars? Ships, power stations, space travel, indeed anywhere power is needed this technology has a universal use.
Finally !!!!
A good idea in the last 1000 years
With all respect for TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE
I wan't one and I think everyone else on this planet is going to want one.
Why do you have to add water, a close system would not add water. Also electric to power the separation is done while it being charged would mean some gas would need to be stored.
Jim Sim...I am not a rocket scientist ..q 1 .. where does the electricity to split water come from while on the move ..q 2 ..from the animations I see a huge amount of tanks pressure vessels andpumps tech etc .. this looks like it could end up expensive and technical ..more touch screens and exterior interference...
Toyota's water car is a variation of their hybrid technology. Here the wasted energy from regenerative braking has the option to go to battery as well as electrolyzer, and on to ICE.
This sounds awesome, I'm seeing three problems coming from this. Foresight >
1- mechanics, maintenance and repair
2 - vehicle accident containment
3 - The automobile company's warranties covering the vehicle for 10 years to justify the cost and reduce junkyards.
Just to scratch the Pandora's box of Hurdles once it's open.
Hurrah ! what a breakthrough ! I like the idea of a water powered car. I only hope they are NOT too expensive to make in large numbers. Let's hope the competition doesn't ditch this innovation.
1) The electrolysis process requires more power than it yields (negative net energy yield). 2) The distillation of billions of gallons of water requires a tremendous amount of energy. 3) The distribution system for billions of gallons of distilled water doesn't exist.
Someone has not done their homework. Hydrogen and water are not synonimous. All liquid and gas fossil fuels contain a lot of hydrogen. Hydrogen is far from green too. Producing it results in vast amounts of carbon-dioxide. PV power systems are not exactly much good either. To electrolyse water at a reasonable rate, you need about 20V. So a 1kW system would produce 50A peak. Lets say it could produce 50A continuous. That would need over half an hour to produce a mere gram of hydrogen.
yepp
MY HOPE IS THIS TECHNOLOGY HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY. I WILL BE ONE THAT WILL BUY IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SIGN ME UP. THIS WAY WE CAN GET RID OF GAS STATIONS AND NOT HAVE TO PAY TAXES ON GAS. AND IT'S BETTER FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.
with the FEDS THERE WILL BE A SHORTAGE OF WATER IN 2 YEARS
We allready have water shortage now , Some areas in a droughy Ground water levels dropping every where some areas of this world HAVE NO WATER lake Alltona is down by 20' thats Atlantas waket California is needs so much water now you can't water your grass , wash your car , can you see tahe a resturant will now charge you $2.00 far a glass of water "THINK it is not elleagel yet" In teresting they have shown gas engines being bulit They have said a lot but nothing said
There is a reason Toyota one of the biggest and most successful car maker wasn't fully throwing in the towel on actual engines. The batteries used in EV vehicles are not sustainable and wreak havoc on the environment but nobody wants to talk about that or know it. One EV battery does so much damage to the planet it's crazy and the horrible slave labour type conditions of people getting the rare earth metals is bad too. Even if it's still a ways off Toyota has the right idea! 💪
CO2 is not a "harm" but nature's "food".. Water also doesn't work in freezing temperatures....
There's some kits you can buy or just diy...easy to install or even ask your mechanic to help you out,not fully relying on hidrogen but cutting your car gasoline consumption...😊 anyway,you can have a gasoline car running on hidrogen and help the environment while the big manufacturers don't give you the fully working water car 😮😊
Water car doesn't exist
It takes a lot of electricity to change water into hydrogen and oxygen. Where does that come from? That is the crux of one problem. How fast can this process make the hydrogen fuel? How much hydrogen is required to make a 150hp ICE engine function. Some hydrogen will need to be stored under pressure to accommodate the turn key go now demand of the automobile.What volume of hydrogen is needed to combust and make pistons go up and down? Will a storage tank be required for it? Or can this magical engine electrolyze a liter of water into its component atoms in minutes. What powers that process alchemy? I am not convinced.
I HOPE THEY WORK WELL AND ARE SAFE!!!!!! ALSO LOW COST!!!!!!!!!!! LIVE TRUTH IN ALL OF LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RSVP
This is like "Back to the Future" and discovering the Flux Capacitor!
Awesome News and brilliant Engineering.
Toyota, Thank you for working to save our Planet 👏👏💅
I said a few years ago we need to a hydrogen engine that extracts the hydrogen from its own water tank. I see distilled water is mentioned by some. When I was in motor trade in the early 70’s we connected a filter unit to a water tap that “turned into distilled water for use in car batteries. I wonder if distilled by this process would be suitable.
No, and nor was it for the batteries
Dean Kamen invented a new water distiller called the Slingshot. Produces a thousand liters of pure water a day using less electricity than a microwave oven.
I know its a simple point but how do you start the engine,I note from your simplistic description that hydrogen is not stored on the car so to start electrolysis to produce enough you need a battery to split the hydrogen to be able to start the engine.I know your channel side steps facts that might mess up the facts.Most of your facts are anything but.If only life was as simple as you seem to be.
It's about time..., if any company can pull this off Toyota can
I wonder what method will be used to keep the water from freezing in cold environments.
I also believe if Toyota would present this engine to the racing world, it will gain a force of public demand and private that would be over whelming in all the world and change not only cars and souses industries also the Engine industry all a cross all vehicles that use a engine of large to small sizes.
Just a quick question, if you have a water driven automobile engine, what happens to the water in the tank at -25°C temperature especially when parked overnight??
What happens to the water in your current engine when it is parked overnight?
After reading a few of the comments FIRST, I began watching this video and it confirmed my suspicions. It's RUBBISH (mechanical engineer here). Don't waste your time.
I want to be the 1st to own one these new innovations.
I would like to become a Toyota Dealership owner.
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To the people of Toyota it's about time car manufacturers,
I believe if this was the case, what is the holdup and making this to the market where people could get their hands on it. Not just big manufactures blowing a lot of steam. 😂
Corruption. There are a lot of powerful people that will lose a lot of money if this hits the market. Plus, the governments incentive for EV's is control. They want to control you. This takes their control away.
Interesting. I wonder how much distilled water it will take per mile?
Probably get a few hundred miles per gallon.
Hydrogen will be great as long as they can get lots of Horse power out of them. I've seen little Hydrogen engine at car swap meets, that don't produce enough power to do anything other than turn a tiny fan to show it's actually working.
Bro have faith it's Toyota lol
bro get real, they're loosing it lmao
If it could get decent horsepower I would put it in my classic valiant
What about NDB. Nuclear Diamond Battery which can provide electricity for 50yrs without recharge
I'm all for it but Ford has already announced that they're doing the same thing weeks before Toyota but should they partner up for the infrastructure needed to refuel the vehicle would say alot about making it happen to making the hydrogen engine a reality
This engine was trying to put on the market in the 1920 s…
We all need this yesterday, for the sake of protecting the world’s atmosphere just get it happening!!!!
IT'S B S M8
The water engine is the way to go have a lemonade do you bad gas for the AutoZone and get rid of these are gas prices come on y’all go for it🔥🔥🔥🔥🎈
Water engine doesn't exist.
20 years ago, 2 brothers from St. Pete
This defy's basic physics. There is zero gain to produce hydrogen from H2O to then combust it to produce H2O....where does the energy come from? This is just not possible. I say this as an Engineer with a solid knowledge of both Chemistry and Physics.
what the point for this engine still needed battery to start and expensive fuel which car is more economics
Is the water 💧💧 fuel ⛽ 💧💧💧going to be a normal free water 💧💧💧💧we have at home or it will be special water for sale ???
I love it . Can the drive train be retrofitted to clasic cars 👍 keep up the great work . Can sea water be refind and used . In Australia water is rare
So how far can you go on a gallon of water and can you carry heavy weight or pull trailers with it does it have enough power to do that
I it can power a pick up truck with enough power to tow a camper trailer with no problem I might go for it.
The problem with commuter transportation is too many cars on the roads and massive traffic jams are everywhere. No more lands to build more roads. With this water car will add another 1 million cars to the already existing population of cars. Crazy.
Right now we need to expedite depopulation of cars and remove more roads in the city and suburbs.
More ebikes and escooters are the solution to solve transportation problems.
@tiantong7063 I would be very interested in hearing your explanation as to why you feel there will be an extra 1 million cars on the road. Remember, as we transition away from gasoline powered vehicles, the electric or hydrogen or whatever type comes next, will be REPLACING the gasoline cars we have today.
They will soon cease to exist.
I agree we need to stop using our limited amount of land for highway construction as these roadways quite often run through our most productive agriculture land. The total answer to congestion is not ebikes, etc., though they may help ease the parking congestion within a city. I live in a part of the world where sometimes winter temperatures can drop down to minus 40 to 50 below zero. In those conditions, what do you think the chances are of me riding to work on my bike? Like about a ZERO chance! I dear say you wouldn't either. The answer to congestion is better public transportation networks that serve the needs of the people. If I could get to any part of the city in a comfortable, relaxed, economical and timely manner by stepping aboard a bus, subway, train or even some combination, sure I'll do that and leave my car at home. However, I won't walk 20 blocks from the last stopping point to my destination either. Make those methods of moving people powered by CLEAN electricity or some other kind of non-polluting methods and you'll find me 100% in favour.
Remember the Hindenburg.
What’s the holdup in implementing this ?
reality
the holdup is .......................... this is same old, same old ....................... f in bullshit
Sir.I have Toyota Hicras.The SUV have Hubing sound. iTs Ten months old.
The narrator didn't completely explain precisely how this theoretical engine works. How does a fuel cell convert water to electricity without energy? Is it a physical / chemical reaction? Is there an onboard generator to support electrolysis? I guess all of that will be explained once the water engine actually exists.
We need this sooner, rather than later. Please all manufacturers of automobiles move toward this. You did it with EVs just shift to this inovation.
Nice idea, but wake up and smell the coffee!
People only see "water engine" (as the video point out) and that water is the only exhaust..
But we MUST look at the whole picture of the environmental impact!
To create Hydrogen is by "extract" it from water..
There just there is the issue.
It takes a lot of energy to produce hydrogen from water.
So looking at the whole chain from producing hydrogen and to consuming it and create water back again is not environmentally friendly any longer. (should we use coal, oil, nuclear, solar or wind energy to produce hydrogen.)
It is like saying: "Look how environment friendly my electric viecle is with no exhaust." 😅
When the electricity may come from a coal driven powerplant that spew out big black smoke..😂
So the shortsighted people that just look at the car and if it has a exhaust pipe or not.
Or if water 💦 is coming out.
Don't care from were the energy is coming from or how it were produced..
As if:
"It is out of sight and out of mind." 😅
How much will this vehicle cost?
At 10:30, this video shows you an electric power source and an idealized diagram that implies the use of electrolysis. At 11:00, the narration talks about using the electric current to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen, so hydrogen doesn't have to be stored on board. Unfortunately, they lie by omission by not telling you that the electrolysis is going to take a huge amount of electricity. Unless somebody invented Mr. Fusion, that huge amount of electricity is going to have to come from something like a huge EV battery. Even if we get wireless electricity transmission through the roadbed or solar cells all over the car, you'd be better off using a conventional EV motor than going through all this silliness of an ICE engine that still produces NOx (nitrogen oxide) air pollution. Their claim of "trace gases" is another lie; there is plenty of NOx produced. ICE engines are limited by all the thermodynamic limitations of Rankine style heat engines, friction from the piston rings and all the other sliding and moving parts and complications and losses from multi-gear transmissions.
The sooner the better!
If we switch to water how long will the world run out if fresh drinking water, we only have a small percentage of fresh drinking water
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I love this guy
Is this a Toyota commercial? It looks to me like a CEO has a brilliant idea and gets all the engineers behind him that hope to get a promotion, all others will go to other projects or companies, like I did when I was confronted with a "brilliant solution" that did not make any engineering sense. Good luck Toyota!
As a matter of fact, the CEO they're showing in this presentation is not even currently the boss, he has stepped down and Toyota has a new CEO who is younger. This is definitely not current information.
Hydrogen as fuel seems to be the missing link, IF the rich will allow us to have it.
We already recycle cars, aluminum, we CAN recycle glass be we don't. FUEL has been the concern for decades now.
Pollution has been allowed to be the dark elephant on the planet because the rich were making too much money selling crude. All of a sudden, some people are now concerned, but the rich are still getting richer.
Developing a vehicle or device that can create its own hydrogen, create power and move a nation would be wonderful for the world. It is exactly what we need. BUT will the rich allow this? They will push the government to stop this because it will block their profits, this will be a huge fight for Toyota to try to get to the publics availability. it won't be easy.
The Big Three in car manufacturers are at the end of their possible manufacturing life. They are running out of ideas and the EV does not seem to be the answer, it is the answer for the moment, but cost will kill it as will the battery powering them. Perhaps a hydrogen generator that can power a small turbine to generate power to run the EV motors. If the Toyota hydrogen generator can work, and we have no reason to believe it can't or isn't at present, think of all the power possibilities that can be offered to the world, IF THE RICH STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM IT!!!!
Congrats to Toyota for having the moxy to actually go after this technology when everyone else wants to play with the present EV tech... If allowed, Toyota will have a huge winner with this tech.
Toyota has the best solution to make the world a safer place for everyone