Shorin Ryu Karate Blocks Are Magical｜Yusuke in Okinawa Ep.8
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00:28 Musubi Dachi
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00:40 Shiko Dachi
01:19 Zenkutsu Dachi
01:45 Neko Ashi Dachi
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How do you call this block? Soto Uke, Uchi Uke, or any other way?
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In Goju ryu, we call the middle block “Chudan Uke”
Soto Uke in Matsubayashi Shorinryu :)
when the block is out we call it 'soto uke' in shorin ryu shidokan, and 'uchi uke' when the block is in. and Jodan uke, when the block is up
Mostly Uchi uke in kyokushin
Uchi Uke 🇧🇩
I love the instruction at the end. I learned Shorin Ryu for a couple years when I was a kid. The thing that stood out in this video was the economy of movement. Very little extra movement was used to get from the starting stance to the final block position. It makes each movement quicker.
Love how he pointed out the blocking technique movements shouldn't be over exaggerated.
I agree as well
These are my new way to do blocks. They are blocks, strikes, grappling moves etc. 👍
I'm off to drill, drill, drill.
Sensei teaches so wisely and clearly!!!
In Shorin ryu Shinshukan school(Brazil), it's called soto uke (outward) and uchi uke (inward).
Thanks for sharing!
I'm a taekwondo-in, not a karate-ka, but we'd use the equivalent of "Soto-Uke" for that block. In Korean it would be Bakkan-Makgi. In Kukkiwon-style taekwondo, the default Soto-Uke/Bakkan-Makgi motion has the wrist in the opposite orientation -- the knuckles of the fist face in toward your shoulder. We, of course, also do this version too, but it shows up later in the curriculum. Older taekwondo practitioners might start with this version, though, as older taekwondo was closer to karate in curriculum.
I see! Thanks for sharing!
Facing in sounds awkward to do
I’m used to having my fist facing away from my shoulder when doing the “high block”
The Japanese obviously use more fire power in punching and blocking than Korean or Okinawan stylist.
Checkout Motobu Chioki's book, he was an Okinawan karate master that would disagree with you.
I think he also smacked around Funakoshi for a newspaper giving Funakoshi credit for a fight Motobu fought in against a boxer from Europe. Motobu was known for streetfighting and IIRC openly criticized Shotokans founder for having sub par karate not meant for real fighting.
Okinawa karate is very practical. As a Kyokushin Shodan i can see how much we’ve complicated karate
My son and I took Shorin Ryu for about three years in Okinawa, while I was stationed there in the military. My son was very young, about 6, when he started, but was a natural at it (he is half American/half Filipino). We were trained by a 9th degree black belt, but that was a LONG time ago (over 20 years).
When I first discovered Shorin-Ryu I thought it seemed much more designed around practical combat with short powerful movements as compared to some of the more exaggerated modern styles. Not to say that one is better than the other, but I feel Shorin Ryu starts with practical motions first and develops power over time, other modern styles focus on the big movements to get a feel for power and balance first, then it's up to the student to see how it can be applied in combat. Two sides to a coin.
Did Shorin-Ryu for 13 years…
And trust me…kicks, punches, blocks, and all other movements had to be powerful. After a simple kata it felt like you sprinted a mile. Kusanku felt like 5 miles of sprint.
@@paulsedano1076 you should train with full intensity at all times doesn't matter whether you've trained for a week or you've been training for 20 years you have to be humble enough to practice each technique properly everyday but you build a muscle memory and slowly work your way up to applying the proper intensity to each and every block strike kick even your footwork because you understand everything comes from the basics and principles you have to be of the mindset that you know nothing about punching blocking kicking striking anything that you've learned and that's the only way to keep your mind open and continue to learn and I don't say that meaning not to have confidence in what you learned but to always take it back to the basics and apply it and make sure that your New perspective still holds truth because you're never the same person you're not the same person you are yesterday and you're not the same person today that you'll be tomorrow and you're either going to be better or worse for accepting this fact totally on you
Uema Sensei's advice on the efficiency of movement is crucial. It's easier to teach big movements to beginners so they develop muscle memory, strength, and speed; but more advanced practitioners must work on subtlety and apply only the force necessary to perform a technique.
Same thing with stances. All of these set movements are training tools to help us understand the truth, but they are not the truth themselves.
Excellent channel and incredible job. Im an old Karateka and these videos mean a lot and bring back memories. Thank you!
Thank you Uema sensei and Nagano sensei for this amazing walkthrough on blocks
really an eye opener
I love learning more about this art, my late fater was a 4th dan black belt in this style of karate, i never learnt karate but have competed in muay thai and its almost like my dad is showing me what he used to do thanks for showing us this amazing style ❤
Love watching your videos. As someone who currently is training in shotokan it gives me extra help watching ur videos. Used to be a Shodan 17 yrs ago and just started retraining a little over a yr ago. I'm back to 1st kyu status and I'm hoping I can get my Shodan back by next yr to possibly within the yr.
To answer your question we call it uchi uke in my dojo. To be more specific uchi ude uke. The outside to inside block is the one we call soto uke. But for inside to outside we call it uchi
As for chi-ishi, let me put my 2 cents in (but what do I know being from Goju-ryu in a 4th generation). Japanese karate (mostly Shotokan) is 3K: kihon, kata, kumite. Okinawan is more to these which includes but not limited to bunkai, oyo, tameshiwari, tsuzuki-te, hojo-undo etc. Chi-ishi is the first tool to learn in kigu-undo (i.e. hojo-undo consist of kigu-undo with tools and jumbi-undo without them) which not only strengthens wrists but actually corrects your limb structure for blocks and punches working on kime, too. Hence there are two ways of working chi-ishi: one is for muscles (as sensei has shown here in a clip and another sensei from Matsubayashi-ryu has mentioned last time talking on kosa and two yasudo types) and the other is working with inertia when the mass of chi-ishi corrects your limb position (including working on kime) because you try to follow the chi-ishi or trying to slip under it instead of moving it with your sheer muscle force (easy to show than to describe). And in Goju-ryu Jundokan we have got a dozen exercises with chi-ishi one-handed or double-handed. Keep doing a great job on your research! :)
So, there is the concept of kime in Okinawa's Karate?
Hm, interesting
@@Isaac_Shamir : nothing fancy. This focus means momentary contraction of your muscles and the end of the movement which is not like tension during the movement called muchimi.
@@Burvedys well, at least that good enough to know that Kime isn't a Japanese invention, right?
@@Isaac_Shamir : Japanese made Okinawan fist-fighting their sword-fencing without any sword. Hence I would rather doubt concept of ikken hissatsu. :) But kime is used by any puncher, not only karateka, because it is just putting breaks on your over-speeding limb so you won't over-extend it and damage your joins and tendons (told ya, ain't fancy, no scary yelling and releasing of your ki power). :)))
Thanks for sharing your insight!
Remember something: Fighting is Fighting. Be like water... It can flow or it can crash. When punching.. when kicking,-don't think. Feel. It is like a finger pointing to the sky. Don't focus on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly Glory! May it be well with you.
I practiced Shorin Ryu as a child and the dojo is still open to this day, I'm wondering if I should pick it up again.
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Loved this Sensei
I really like this style
Excellent
Loved this episode. There are so many technical simularties with wado ryu.
Nice!
So good to see Yusuke train with Okinawan weight which helps condition the joints and muscles for proper strong technique. We have that in our Goju ryu dojo
Nice!
Hi I am Agnes from the Philippines nice to meet you your my idol and you are really great in karate I want to be a best martial arts in the world
Somehow I think this was the style I ended up learning in Canada. Watching this video brought back memories. I started off in Shotokan and transitioning to this style my teacher explained the differences. Experiencing them first hand was cool. My instructor suggested as this video also seems to suggest that blocks were actually counter attacks if applied a certain way.
1:50 I could still remember the first week of training in Shorinryu with Neko Ashi Dachi. I used to hate this stance because it hurts so much during the first 2 weeks of training but I began to like it.
When you figure out the correct spot to balance out your weight, it becomes comfortable :)
Our blocks Kyokushin Karate are called seiken jodan uke (upper block) seiken soto uke (outside to inside block), seiken uchi uke (inside to outside block), seiken gedan barai (downward block coming from the top), finally seiken uchi uke gedan barai (which combines the downward and inside blocks together). How interesting that what they call in their style, neko ashi dachi (cat stance) for is actually kokutsu dachi (back leaning) stance! All the other stances that he exhibited here, are the same for us as well.
I did Shotokan style karate training but as a base we also used Shuto Uke (not gedan barai) in Zenkutsu Dachi, Nekoashi Dachi and Sanchin Dachi. And then I attended pencak silat training from Indonesia, and I feel many of the techniques are similar to karate. The pencak silat that I follow has not only smooth movements but also firm movements like in Shotokan style.
Hello, sensei, I am from Colombia, South-america, and we call soto uke the one which go from outside to inside, uchi uke from inner to outside. Thanks a lot for sharing that knowledge and let us realize japanese language meanings
No problem and thanks for sharing!
I learned in tye kwon do. Same blocks for the most part. But the terms we used were far more specific and used English words. Descriptive like, outward in block, or inward out block. Hi block.. low block.. ext.. mainly I imagine because there were many other techniques that did require korean vocabulary, bit learning as a young boy, in America; for the practical stuff used all the time, it was just far simpler to use the descriptive words to describe what you were doing, and why, rather than specific names in another launguage that many of the younger students were still learning. And over time, for those techniques, it was just simpler and faster to understand if kept to the practical terms. The vocabulary also came in on many things. Just not the blocks for the most part. Interesting seeing and noting many of the little differences. Yet you can still see the root to the different styles and all the similarities. Especially as you pick up many different styles. Which I was blessed with the opportunity to learn from some excellent practitioners/instructors/guru's/sifu's/masters/grandmasters.. etc. over the years.
Nice Video !
Wow, I thought the Chishi was merely a strength tool in the sense that by training your muscles with it only muscles used for punching or grabbing would be used, the fact that it helps develop explosive movements in the wrist for blocking is a really great insight
Great content many of receiving techniques for the arms are derived from the bridging position where the wrists are crossed.
Glad you like them!
Been a while since I used karate terminology. Vaguely remember soto uke. Great episode.
thanks!
As a shito-ryu practicioner: Moving from outside to inside soto-uke. Moving from inside to outside uchi-uke. But I know a couple of sensei using the term yoko-uke for any of them. We also distinguish between gedan-barai and shuto-barai.
I love the subtle details that are explained in your Okinawa Series -- especially when the information is coming straight from the sources. Honestly, I have never seen or heard of the chishi. I already thought of some applications I can use in my own workouts.
Great!!!
Lots of interesting training devices......founded stones( river or beach rocks) for grip strength........twisting rope, grip and pulling training....a d of course the various forms of makiwara......such as the little seen itachi makiwara.....this is a great training aid for body conditioning,training the upper leg, and the Arms.....please check Motobu Choki's books on RyuKyu Kempo......Ogata Seiyu
After watching this video, I've just understood how to work with knife hands. Thanks
good !
Tang soo do we call our equivalent of "Soto-Uke" Ahneso Pakuro Maki (inside outside block). As for how the Sensei was explaining how they block, and don't bring the back hand/prepped hand all the way back before blocking (or striking etc), my current school and association, we do, and we do a lot of circular motions with a lot of the blocks. When I did it as a kid it was straight forward and more stiff, so its been an adjustment for me.
we use that block in tkd, but i love that foot switch maneuverer
hi, Sensei, your video was amazing. I practice Shorin ryu stile (I'm from São Paulo, Brazil) and we call that movement, the inner to the out side, Soto uke. Actually, it was very funny to watch it because the very last week my sensei brought his friend, a Shotokan sensei, to give us a class.
When his friend said Soto uke, he did an Utchi uke. Me and all my mates did our Soto uke, it was so confusing, and we had lots of misunderstandings like that hahahaha.
thanks for your videos, Sensei, banzai!
Hello from Russia! In our Shotokan karate club we call it Uchi-ude-uke. Looking forward to the new episode.
Thanks for the comment and for sharing!
In Colombia on the shotokan league of Bogotá we learn the middle defense as a uchiuke and sotouke
In our Shotokan club we call this Uchi Uke, sometimes our sensei will refer to it as chudan uke also
That's how it is, no?
Thanks for sharing!
If you can watch the video, you'll understand what he's talking about :)
I've always heard it called soto uke!
It's amazing mtge subtile differences in blocks between Karate styles. When transitioned from Shotokan to Shito I had to learn blocks all over again because they were performed different. 😂
In the style I started, they call the block from the inside chudan ude uke (they use "ude" to distinguish it from chudan shuto uke) and from the outside it is called soto uke.
Although we don't use anything like the chishi, we place a lot of emphasis on wrist rotation as well.
Thanks for sharing!
My sensei did not use any Okinawan or Japanese terms. So the Jodan Uke was Upper Block, Uchi Uke was Inside Block and Soto Uke was Outside Block. Samething with stances and kicks...Front Stance, Horse Stance, Cat Stance, Back Stance, Front Kick, Side Kick, Back Kick, Roundhouse....so I really like hearing the Okinawan/Japanese terms since for 2 years up until I got my 1st Dan I never knew them
Uema dojo. Nice experience. I have trained under both. They're legends. Most okinawan master are ...
They were surely amazing!
Yusuke, you must visit the Miyahira sensei shorin ryu shidokan hombu dojo,
Next time!
Gedan Barai for us, was a sweeping motion, similar to mawashi uke, but closed fist and finishing in hammer fist to the groin/leg. Almost only done in shiko dachi to the side, above the knee. It’s one technique I’ve noticed stands out as an oddball. We were Goju Ryu, but the last few years, tracing lineage and our original movements I’m beginning to believe we are more shotokan. But, our uchi uke was brought from the inside out. Interesting.
In Taekwondo we used English translations for all blocks. We called what you are doing "inside forearm block" or "inside to outside forearm block." And the opposite for the other direction. The was practiced, as far as I can tell, at least as far back as 1991, but probably as far back as 1959 and earlier through Jhoon Rhee.
Cool episode! In the school I'm attending we call this middle block Soto uke.
Thanks!
In America a lot of instructors are focused on what height the block is performed at. I have been to dojos the refer to both as Soto Chudan Uke and Uchi Chudan Uke. To simplify things I personally just teach it as Soto and Uchi.
In our dojo and honbu, we also call the outside block Soto Uke, and the inside block Naka Uke.
Now I'm shubukan Shorin ryu school's student 🥋
Good question at 8:29! In Meibukan Goju Ryu, if you make the circular motion around your head and then do Gedan Uke, it is called Harai Uke!
haha yep. I knew some styles do that so I asked him!
In Kyokushin, if it's coming from the outside in, the block is called soto Uke. if it's inside out, it is called Uchi uke
9:33 that was cool
My sensei taught us about snapoing with the wrists... and that every block was a strike to the expose soft parts of the attacking appendage, in the right practitionerd hands Shorin Ryu Karate is a devastating art.
Another nice video! We call the opposite: soto uke is from outside to inside, uchi uke inside to outside....
I also come from Shotokan but when blocking chodan from the outside to the inside, we call it Soto uke, and Uchi uke when it's from the inside to the outside
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It is my understanding that there are different styles of Shorin Ryu and each style have their own unique ways of doing the same techniques.
In Shitoryu we call Uchi Uke from the inside to the outside.
Jodan uke is Age uke
Gedan uke is Gedan barai and is closed.
The techniques are very similar though! Small, fast and not wasteful.
Myself, I trained Matsubayashi Ryu, and we called that block Chudan Uke.
Coming from the perspective of Kukkiwon Taekwondo, which as we all know has significant roots in Karate:
Gedan Uke = Naeryeo Makgi / Downward Block / 내려 막기 (nay-leeyoh mawk-gee) *
Jodan Uke = Ollyeo Makgi / Upward Block / 올려 막기 (ohl-leeyoh mawk-gee) *
Soto Uke = Bakkat Makgi / Outward Block / 바깥 막기 (baw-kawt mawk-gee)
Uchi Uke = An Makgi / Inward Block / 안 막기 (awn mawk-gee)
Shuto Uke = Sonnal Geodeureo Makgi / Assisted Knife Hand Block / 손날 거들어 막기 (sohn-nawl goh-dool-oh mawk-gee)
Gedan Barai = Sonnal Geodeureo Naeryeo Makgi / Downward Assisted Knife Hand Block / 손날 거들어 내려 막기 (sohn-nawl goh-dool-oh nay-leeyoh mawk-gee)
* Some schools use the older terminology of Arae Makgi (Under Block) and Eolgeul Makgi (Face Block)
Typically Inward Block and Outward Block are called Momtong An Makgi and Momtong Bakkat Makgi, with momtong / 몸통 (mohm-tohng) meaning the trunk of your body. The version of Soto Uke shown here is referred to as An Palmok Momtong Bakkat Makgi which means Inner Forearm Outward Middle Block. The four basic directions of blocking (upward, downward, inward, outward) use the outer forearm (bakkat palmok) by default and so inner forearm is noted in the name when that particular version is used.
Knife Hand Block / Sonnal Makgi (son = hand, nal = blade) has the rear hand in the hip chamber position as in other kibon / 기본 (kee-bohn) / basic techniques. When the off hand is at the solar plexus the block becomes a geodeureo (assisted) technique. A downward block with the off hand at the solar plexus rather than the hip chamber, for example, would be Assisted Downward Block / Geodeureo Naeryeo Makgi or a Forward Back Fist Strike / Deung Jumeok Ap Chigi (doong joo-mohk awp chee-gee) has the off hand in the hip chamber position but it becomes Assisted Foward Back Fist Strike / Deung Jumeok Geodeureo Ap Chigi when it is at the solar plexus.
Heisoku Dachi = Moa Seogi / Closed Stance / 모아 서기 (moh-aw soh-gee)
Heiko Dachi = Naranhi Seogi / Parallel Stance / 나란히 서기 (naw-lawn-hee soh-gee)
Shiko Dachi / Kiba Dachi = Juchum Seogi / Riding Stance / 주춤 서기 (joo-choom soh-gee)
Zenkutsu Dachi = Ap Gubi / Forward Stance / 앞 굽이 (awp goob-ee)
Neko Ashi Dachi = Beom Seogi / Tiger Stance / 범 서기 (bohm soh-gee)
Kokutsu Dachi = Dwit Gubi / Backward Stance / 뒷 굽이 (dweet goob-ee)
Kosa Dachi = Dwi Kkoa Seogi / Back Cross Stance / 뒤 꼬아 서기 (dwee koh-aw soh-gee)
Musubi Dachi (Pyonhi Seogi) isn't used in any recognized poomsae but it is listed in the Kukkiwon textbook.
I love your videos, very interesting! Sorry for the giant comment, I'm a huge nerd.
🌸 Uchi Uke (From the Inside)
Directional blocks and strikes are nutso (and I train TKD, so it's even more complex going korean to english). In Korean the terms are mostly clear because a block can be inside-to-outside-block or outside-to-inside-block. In English we TEND to say outside when you are blocking FROM the outside and inside when blocking FROM the inside, but also strikes are backwards. An outside knife hand, for example, is a strike TO the outside.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Very interesting to take part of traditional training. But also the strengthening of joints and muscles by weight lifting should not be underestimated. In a modern setting you should complement your martial art training with lifting heavier weights in a gym. It is very efficient from my viewpoint.
For me that's so interesting that so far all the styles share the same punches, kicks and blocks with Shotokan, the differences seems to be much more about teaching methodology. That's also very interesting that last video the Sensei said He remember a time where there was no styles at all, only Karate
I agree to a certain point, but doing the movements and seeing it myself, the way each style makes the impact is pretty different
Goju ryu in England, we call it Chudan Soto Uke
Thanks for sharing!
In shotokan in the UK we call it Uchi Uke
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If blocking from the inside / 内側 (uchigawa) to the outside / 外側 (soto) with the gaiwan / 外腕 (outside arm) then the 外 or SOTO signifies that it is an outside block or Soto Uke / 外受け (outside block). If blocking from the outside / 外側 to the inside / 内側 while using the naiwan / 内腕, then the 内 Uchi signifies it is an Inside Block 内受け.
In Meibukan Goju Ryu, we call it Chudan Uke, and the block at 3.40 is called Uchi Uke
I see!
Fascinating. As for me I learn those blocks as Soto Uke, & Uchi Uke, in regards to where they start. Though I knew about the blocks being opposite, I wasn’t aware of the part concerning Mita University(I believe that was the place mentioned).
I see! Thanks for sharing!
@@KarateDojowaKu you are welcome.
In Kenkojuku Shotokan is ude uke the defence called uchi uke in JKA Shotokan
I practice 2 styles of karate, my main style is Shotokan and we practice the inside to outside block as uchi uke, the outside to inside we call soto uke. The other style is Bujinkai which is a combination of styles(mostly Shotokan) is the opposite way.
Greetings from Shubukan Czech !! ;)
Hello there!
To the inside we called it chudan uke, and to the outside yoko chudan uke. Seibukan Shorin Ryu in the mid 80's.
In Shorin Ryu Kyudokan we call this 2:55 Soto Uke and this 3:40 Uchi Uke but the arms are close to the body. Also, Shiko Dachi and Zenkutsu Dachi are shorter (1 fist wide).
Moving from inside to outside is soto-uke. Outside to inside in uchi-uke.
At least in the Wado dojo I am learning from.
What’s up Broski 🦋
Some Shorin Ryu schools do those blocks differently. Interesting to see the various little nuances even in the same style.
These blocks are very similar if not the same than the ones we use in Tang Soo Do. I think the technique is actually taken from karate
That shuto uke at the end resembles that flowing drill making contact with the hands.
Interesting!
Great videos, I really want to see some bunkai
Coming soon!
I was taught , Soto uke =outside block , uchi uke =inside block .
Our chief sensei, Ray Fuller (8th dan ) was taught by the legendary keinosuke Enoeda , who came to live and teach the british Karate team and chief instructor with the KUGB ( karate union of great Britain )
i was always mostly graded by Ray Fuller , he looked like he wasn't paying attention sometimes ,but missed nothing .
Shudan Uke the in and out, The out and in Shudan Soto Uke....Oss
As far as the distance of your fist from your leg in the Gedan-Barai shown around the 8th minute, it's definitely NOT a bad habit of yours, but a different interpretation. Indeed, Master Funakoshi says in Karate-Do Kyohan that the distance should be around 15cm, so more like two fists than one fist.
We call that block uchi uke or inside block in Seido which is Kyokushin off shoof
Soto Uki is the common term in our Dojo.
From what I remember it was called Soto Uke.
The Chudan inside to outside block we call Ude Uke in the SKA. The outside to inside block we call Tetsui Uke.
Uchi uke (inside to out side), soro uke (out side to inside)
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3:48 soto uke = outside to inside
uchi uke = inside to outside
3:56 in kyokushin we call itu seiken chudan uchi uke
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In Wado kai this is Soto uke. From inside out. Ushi uke is from outside in :) The same as Shorin Ryu.
We call that block soto uke in my Shito ryu organization. So.e of the higher ranking dans and older practictioners call it soto yoko uke.
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