Double wishbone suspension geometry | Designing | Calculation | Hard points | Camber vs wheel travel

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  • Double wishbone is the independent type of Suspension geometry that allows each wheel to act and react independently from the others. Designing of double wishbone geometry involves various assumptions and approximations. So, here I will be covering almost all approximations involved in designing the suspension geometry. Adjusting relative angles and length of control arms, you can design a perfect suspension geometry for your vehicle. After getting all the hard points from 2d sketches, put the coordinates of these hard-points in suspension software’s , to analyse the curves of different parameters and get a suitable suspension geometry .
    In this video you will learn :-
    1) What is Double wishbone geometry?
    2) Construction, designing and calculation of Double wishbone geometry?
    3) Effect of Control arms on handling characteristics of vehicle.
    4) Study of Camber versus wheel travel Curves
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  • @bedbudha768
    @bedbudha768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for this amazing video. Looking forward for such insightful and informative videos.

  • @aclark549
    @aclark549 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video. I appreciate the breakdown on how the dimensions are determined and explaining the assumptions required. Thank you.

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @monkeseeaction21987
    @monkeseeaction21987 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. The system for defining ball joint locations is very helpful.

  • @himanshuchaudhari338
    @himanshuchaudhari338 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello, the mounting of pushrod on UBJ or LBJ depends upon where the forces are maximum between the two. So can you please tell me that how do I get my maximum forces on UBJ intentionally so as to mount the pushrod on UBJ??
    P.S- Very good content as usual.

  • @adityalonakadi1069
    @adityalonakadi1069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey amazing video, it's exactly what I was looking for! Could you further explain how can we calculate the diameter of the control arms and also explain how to calculate the geometrical dimensions of the knuckle?

    • @SandeepSingh-43
      @SandeepSingh-43 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The control arm diameter is open for your preference. You have to consider material, and its properties, and the particular use. You also have to take into account the cost. .048" wall thickness would be a good start. After you engineered the part, then off to FEA analysis.

  • @emina4627
    @emina4627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! One for McPherson would be useful too. And which textbook did you use for reference?

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video..for designing double wishbone suspension geometry

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @utkarshgupta6578
      @utkarshgupta6578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro how to select camber, caster, roll angle , toe in , all these values for geometry

  • @shubhamkumar7100
    @shubhamkumar7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video and explanation. can you please complete the hardpoints series.

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you . I have completed the hardpoints for front geometry . Check this out :- th-cam.com/video/S_GraRRbxLg/w-d-xo.html

    • @gfff503
      @gfff503 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thevatsaljain sir please reply, I have lot of confusion

  • @sachinpatil4563
    @sachinpatil4563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hatsoff Vatsal...You are indian Gillespie👌👌

  • @simonmuncker8632
    @simonmuncker8632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, great video. I was wondering if this procedure applies to the rear suspension, I mean, is there any change if I use this method for the rear suspension? Thank you for your time :)

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a formula for calculating the correct upper A-arm length. I read it years ago in an engineering book, but haven't been able to find it again. You start with the lower arm, built to whatever length. The height of the lower arm above the ground, the length of the lower arm, and the height of the upper arm all go into the equation. I just can't remember what functions to use or if there is other data needed. The end result is a pair of arms that produce zero scuff while giving the necessary camber gain.

    • @manojgore9235
      @manojgore9235 ปีที่แล้ว

      what was the book's name

    • @johnterpack3940
      @johnterpack3940 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manojgore9235 I wish I could remember. That was 40 years ago.

  • @anujawasthi6789
    @anujawasthi6789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how about designing of upper and lower control arms?

  • @mohammadzain6225
    @mohammadzain6225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video.....very helpful

  • @Dante-ti5ii
    @Dante-ti5ii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0.75x video speed for no brain xploding...

  • @LemonMontage420
    @LemonMontage420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a mistake on case 2. The outer tire will gain NEGATIVE camber when the body is rolled, not positive camber, and the opposite is true for the inner wheel. This makes alot of sense if you think about it, as when you're rolling, the LBJ connection on the body on the outside wheel is going out towards the wheel while the UBJ is going inwards, making the wheel have to rotate inwards towards the body (negative camber) in order to maintain the length of the suspension arms, the opposite is true of the inner wheel

  • @cwengrishm2060
    @cwengrishm2060 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what happens when you use horizontal arms but with shorter upper A Arm

  • @mrrandom6913
    @mrrandom6913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can you recommend a book please?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Race car vehicle dynamics
      Book by William F. Milliken Jr.

  • @joelgreen1475
    @joelgreen1475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If am not using a 3D software, how do I determine the center of gravity?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This can be useful :- th-cam.com/video/7nmYYBdhO_k/w-d-xo.html

  • @pavangiri9435
    @pavangiri9435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir how can I find svsa length
    Sir please do you help us please sir

  • @38SIDDHANTKARAMBALIM.E
    @38SIDDHANTKARAMBALIM.E 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is exactly fvsa length and how i do i find it?

  • @sachindethe3023
    @sachindethe3023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you please share reference u have considered for calculation that would be useful 😊

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The formulas and calculations were from Milliken vehicle dynamics

  • @saadshahid5118
    @saadshahid5118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can someone please explain how to get position of knucle mounting ??

  • @ayoubben4721
    @ayoubben4721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make video on h arm geometry for rear suspension .. please

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Rajendra , I am working on it. It will take time. Thanks and Stay tuned.

  • @priabiasa9095
    @priabiasa9095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably I miss something, how to determine y2, y4, y5, and y6, or in other words how to find the length of upper and lower control arm?

  • @habibrehman2195
    @habibrehman2195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to draw the 3D geometry in solidworks?

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For making 3D geometry in Solidworks, you can use option of 3D sketch from sketch toolbar.

  • @RajendraYadav-bh3nk
    @RajendraYadav-bh3nk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please provide h arm geometry videos soon...as I am currently working on that..and I need some help

    • @thevatsaljain
      @thevatsaljain  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Rajendra , I am working on it. It will take time. Thanks and Stay tuned.

  • @anupgupta9572
    @anupgupta9572 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Roll centre kaise calculate karenge?

  • @akhilraj3777
    @akhilraj3777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to design double wishbone suspension with single horizontal spring damper only connecting lower wishbones

  • @ashutoshmane7392
    @ashutoshmane7392 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how to find SVSA length and angle

  • @utkarshgupta6578
    @utkarshgupta6578 ปีที่แล้ว

    How you decides the knuckle points

  • @chhavitanwar138
    @chhavitanwar138 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how to implement this t in 3d software

  • @086_rajatpatil5
    @086_rajatpatil5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I this video I dint get this to the point , for the wheel travel during the bump of 8inches and during droop if its 4 inches than how come wheel travel will be 12 inches ? Plz explain

    • @fhonethone
      @fhonethone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe a bit to late, but wheel travel = bump + droop = 8 + 4 = 12 inches

    • @sachinpatil4563
      @sachinpatil4563 ปีที่แล้ว

      This condition
      unladen to bump= 8
      Unladen to Droop(rebound) =4
      Total travel 12 inch
      This is the wheel travel for SUV

  • @AruneshKashyap
    @AruneshKashyap ปีที่แล้ว

    How to find wheel travel

  • @Dante-ti5ii
    @Dante-ti5ii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, can you put the text you are saying in the video as a kind of subtitles? For non english people can be hard to understand. Thank you.

  • @nirmalparmar4224
    @nirmalparmar4224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to determine roll cente of trailing arm suspension?

    • @theyellow8834
      @theyellow8834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get the 1st axis multiplied by the 3rd significant figure and minus the velocity of travel which is around 89 degrees, get the x axis and calculate the Pythagoras tie rod to find the average swing.

  • @simulationspot
    @simulationspot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey can you share the ppts it would be of great help

  • @086_rajatpatil5
    @086_rajatpatil5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to calculate wheel travel ?

    • @cr7savage709
      @cr7savage709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you figure it out ?

  • @MrPrime-mt8dd
    @MrPrime-mt8dd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro nice content but stop talking like a robot, the continuous up and down pitch in your voice is really irritating. i know you're speaking like this so that easier for other's to understand but nah bro

  • @Деловкепке
    @Деловкепке 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buddy, in English we don't pronounce letter R. Improve your awful pronunciation.