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@@armandhammer3782 Well, that's a given considering the state the program was left in after the disaster that was the previous regime. But I think it's fair to say that they can, at the very least, go bowling -- even in year one of the Jonathan Smith era. Competent coaching in and of itself likely lost State at least one or two games last year, so you have to figure that with an objectively better coaching staff, they'll take at least a small step forward. I am not saying they compete for a conference title immediately, but I am confident that they will be competitive more often than not, unlike the '23 season with the shutouts and numerous lopsided losses. It'll take time, but they've got the right coach in place, in my opinion, to right the wrongs of the last staff.
@@armandhammer3782We? Well, you certainly won't find me hyping up Nebraska anywhere on the internet, as I'd really need to see it to believe it with them. After all, they haven't even made the postseason in nearly a decade.
This is the same sentiment I hold on Sam as well, I am a Spartan fan and I think he does a fantastic job at giving an unbiased perspective on msu and separating the rivalry from giving real coverage
I'm a UofM alum and played for UofM 2012-2015. .your younger cousins s played for this coach in OregoN State and I'll say he has Dantonia mentality. But we just proved what happens when you go against the projected commitee favorites. They've wanted OSU GA or Bama to win ot all for the past 3seasons. Harbaugh comes out this year and criticizes NCAA and demanded player paying look what they did. We had half the talent but an old school, real team, smashmouth system and shut them all down. 3 peated B1Gand NCAA playoffs last 3 years of 4 team playoffs. Retired Saban(best coachever) and shut all the critical s up with the WORST NIL payed team up to this point. We figured out how to get teenagers to play for something bigger them themselves es and we DID it! Suspended our coach which has back fired CLEARLY. And shit everybody up 3 years in a row. This will never be done again 100😂😘🤙🏽
Johnathan Smith is ELITE. Aiden Chile is ELITE. This program, MSU, made the best hire of the year at coach and his history is as a 'program builder (much like Matt Rhule at Nebraska) so if the fans have just a little patience they will be rewarded with a strong future.
A future of what though? The B10 is loaded. I guess there are years where MSU can hope to sneak that third playoff spot after OSU and Oregon. I don't ever see MSU winning a B10 title in the new look B10. Their recruiting is not good enough
Thank you for the education, Jay. That is even better news for Michigan State's LB room. So would you say their entire two-deep has starting caliber players?
@@collegefootballwithsam starting caliber, definitely. I just looked at our roster and I think Jordan Hall, Jordan Turner, Darius Snow, Cal Haliday and Brady Pretzlaff have potential
I do believe MSU will overachieve relative to their win total of 4.5. Although Coach Michalczik's no miracle worker, if he can produce a good -- not great or elite -- OL in year one that can perform consistently well regarding run blocking and pass protection, then I believe that State has some good pieces in place, specifically at QB, WR, and RB, to be competitive in most of their games and possibly reach the postseason. Full disclosure: I believe that they will go bowling with a record of 7-5, but there is potential for an 8-4 season if they manage to get a win in October against Iowa.
I think Michalczik is as close to a miracle worker as Sherrone Moore when it comes to OL development. I agree with you that MSU is good enough to flirt with that 8 win and potentially 9 win range if all the pieces fall into place, particularly at the LOS. Nice to see you back, Oziot.
@@gabeswitala2292 is that not a logical result…? Wouldn’t UMich being down…I don’t know… be a consequence of Sparty being up (and beating them)? Also, can’t we just as credibly flip your statement around? Except for 2021 (when Sparty still beat UMich anyway), which successful years has Michigan had where they had to go through a great MSU team? Certainly not last years team, which UMich fans pretty much unanimously views as the greatest team in school history if not history of the sport (at which thought any nonbiased viewers of the sport would struggle not to role their eyes)… that team gets to boast about destroying one of the worst MSU teams in program history (but wolverines will say fOrTy-NiNe To NoThInG as if they ought to boast about beating a headcoachless, qbless lame ducks squad). Idk, call me crazy, but this line from Gabe and UMich fans in general strikes me as a rewriting of history, which you think you can do because you’re the current top dogs*, but it’s a uniquely Michigan thing to think and is a take that’ll age like milk in the desert son as the Moore era unfolds
@hemanths2230 Because that's the way history works. And be honest with yourself. Because I know you'll never be honest with me about it, if the history favored you than you'd be using it without reservation too.
Stupidest intro I've ever heard. Losing players due to a turnover in coaching staff, due to unregulated NIL and transfer rules, does not equal disorganized and disheveled.
Don’t get me wrong. The transfer portal was tough in April, but if players would rather chase money for second string spots rather than play on our team, we don’t want them.
I don’t think this year you’ll see a top 10 team. I believe next year and the year after it’ll be when you see all these young players reach upperclassmen stature that they will all gel together and buy into the system. Similar to how MCDC is doing it.
I see only two but maybe three outright unwinnable games on MSU’s 2024 schedule. All nine others are definitely losable depending on how those programs are performing at the time, so it’s easy to see a lot of variance in expected win totals for Sparty. Last season’s team picked up four total wins amidst the head coaching debacle, a couple of which were under a deer-in-headlights interim coach in Barnett and maybe sum total two thirds total qbs accounting for the flag-football starter Noah Kim and the still undeveloped Katin Houser. Barring another set of Darian Snow-like injuries to key starters, .500 or 7-5 is not an outright preposterous goal for Spartan fans to have of the 2024 squad. But Vegas often know what’s up and they’re saying 4.5, so Spartan fans have got to be braced for missing out on a bowl again. It’s year one-just look for the fun in it, and any surprise success is gravy.
I have otimism above 4.5 wins. I see more in the 6 to 7 win range. They have a much better coaching staff from last year and had a very good portal haul. Even though they lost some good players they brought in some good players at key positions. They are improved at QB, o line, WR, TE, LB (especially pass coverage LB) and DB.
Of course, Michigan State will struggle against the elite of the Big Ten in 2024. That being said, everyone else is fair game. For Michigan State to beat Oregon or Ohio State, it would require a coach greater than Knute Rockne and Vince Lombardi!! Smith has the potential to be the next tier down from that Mt. Rushmore stature. Yes, I believe he is that good. It is an inescapable fact that Smith performed brilliantly at Oregon State. A college football residence comparable to Devil's Island!! This coaching staff has top ten capability. Perhaps higher. The Spartans have 24 transfer additions, including new players at every position of weakness in 2023. Every position group SHOULD be stronger this season, with the possible exception of the defensive line. All areas were hit hard in the portal with a huge addition of a solid recruiting class. I predict the Spartans will go 7-5 with upset wins a strong possibility against Iowa and/or Michigan. The 2025 season will be a breakout year with players developing under a superior strength and conditioning coach and staff. The Spartans will win. In short order. GO GREEN!!
Me: “Is Sam just being too nice to us again?” Sam: “This isn’t like the last time I was nice to Michigan State this is different” O H I also have optimism in terms of looking competent as a team and not beating ourselves, but I do not have any optimism of actually stacking up against the top of the B1G
MSU Alum! I have optimism this season. Looking forward to see the defense and improvements there and can’t wait to see the offense. Chiles could be special along with Velling and Carter but a lot falls on the strength and conditioning and coaching of the o line. Can’t wait to see this team play!
This isn’t betting advice and I’m not saying they win more than five games, but I slammed the over on the 4.5 win total. I think MSU’s floor is five wins but ya never know.
As an Oregon state fan mich state makes me jealous cuz this mich state team is just what Oregon state would have been had the pac 12 not been disbanded
I appreciate the support. I am trying my best to upgrade the quality of the show before 2024 kicks off, and I think a big part of that is diving deeper into statistics.
I think Michigan reverts to a more extreme version of the 2021 team. We probably will have our worst pass offense since 2020, but our defense will be 2022 level. Thank you for your encouragement.
My quick take, they have as good or better talent than last year and they have vastly better coaching. They won 4 games last year. Talent and coaching is worth at least one more win. Outside 4 almost assured losses, they have 8 potentially winnable games (but they won't win them all). I'd say their floor is 6 wins and may win 7.
I had the pleasure of meeting some of the new coaching staff over the winter in the hotel where they were all staying before they closed on their new homes in East Lansing. In particular the one who stood out, other than Coach Smith, was Mike McDonald the head strength/conditioning coach. He played at Purdue and he’s been at some top notch programs and he seemed to me to have the calm attitude and humility of a confident professional. As far as Coach Smith he impressed me the most. He was sitting by himself on a couch in the lounge next to the bar/restaurant watching sports on TV. Some guys at the bar, MSU fans, recognized him and were so excited to say hi. They had a back and forth for about 20 minutes; coach sitting on the couch, guys at the bar, shouting praises and thanks for taking over the program etc. One of the guys at the bar finally shouted to Coach “hey coach, we’re sorry to keep bothering you, we know you’d probably like to just enjoy your evening!” Coach Smith responded “Ah, no man, I’m down here hanging out. I love talking to you guys. If I didn’t want to talk to you I’d be up hiding out in my room.” It wasn’t fake, he really meant it
I hooe MSU fans can feel the excitment wev had! Mel Tucker had to pay the refs and got a once in a life talent (walker) to win. I honestly feel bad for east lansing and there fans. Youre litterally a team thats not won anything meamogful simce the 60s😂 half OSU and half MSU fans. Blocked punt vs us, k punt vs a nobody Notre Dame team, beat OSU on their down years and your best win in over 60 years was a rose bowl win against my younger cousins all freshman and sophmore stamford team who lost luck and mccaffrey the year before. 😂😂😂😂 What we just did will never be dupli ated and i hope you guys will be able to witness it. 49-0 our rivals at your home, beat PSU with our OC coaching, reitred Saban and won it all against the grain with 3 and 4 stars who wer non recruited and doubted for the past 3 years. On top of that had the worst NIL money out of any power 5 conference team! Played as an absolute team unit. No ego, NO BS! Played for eachother and shut ALL the haters up. Itll never be seen again 100%. ALL the "experts" counted us out and doubted us! We sat back, stuck our middle fimgers up 🖕🏽 and GRINDED midwest michigan style ! I pray and hope our lil bros fans will feel that REAL excitment and emotion but i dont see it happeming in our life time 😂 Good luck tho 👍 〽️🤙🏽
I'm expecting a 6-6 season. I do think MSU is being overlooked this year, and an okay schedule outside of late September to October. But it's definitely going to take awhile to get the gears going. Even Dantonio needed a few years before things really turned around.
Me: “Is Sam just being too nice to us again?” Sam: “This isn’t like the last time I was nice to Michigan State this is different” O H I also have optimism in terms of looking competent as a team and not beating ourselves, but I do not have any optimism of actually stacking up against the top of the B1G
@collegefootballwithsam All good even though I am on day 8 of 9 on my vacation. Back to work on Monday. The in-depth breakdowns talking about players and strengths are always good. Gonna get to your newest release soon.
Not sure where this narrative about Ohio State having issues or major concerns on their line comes from. 98% of teams in the country would take a group with 105 combined career starts, two all Big 10 players from last year and four guys that will be drafted to NFL rosters next year. Everyone isolates the Missouri game but the starting center Hinzman was suspended and the center was RG Matt Jones who didn't even know the calls. The guy that stepped into guard was so bad he ended up in the portal. Isolating one meaningless game and thinking Michigan State is going to whip them up front or something...nonsense. They'll benefit greatly from Chip Kelly's scheme especially in the run game which was always poorly designed under Day. That wasn't his thing.
@@gabeswitala2292 Big tough Notre Dame 0-2 against Ohio State the last two seasons. Chip Kelly will scheme and put these players in a far better position to be successful too. Ask Notre Dame insider Bryan Driskell about that. As he said, there's nothing finesse about a Chip Kelly offense.
I don't just take the Missouri game into account. Against Indiana, Penn State, and Missouri the OL looked porous. Even against Michigan State the Buckeyes struggled to get a push last year but Henderson was so fast that he out angled the Spartans defense. The questions I have about Ohio State tie directly to their strength and conditioning coach and Will Howard's resume at Kansas State. I think they will benefit from Chip Kelly's scheme immensely in the ground game. Also, I never said that MSU would push them around, just that they could give the Buckeyes a challenge.
@@collegefootballwithsam Scheming up the run has never been Day's strength and some growing pains were expected losing three starters to the NFL and having a freshman center start 12 games after he had never played the position before. Chip's offense will look much more like what Urban Meyer did with incorporating QB run, something that was non existent for the last 4 years. Any issues with the OL should be looked at through the lense of national championship. They'll be really good because they're talented, veteran and now put in a position to succeed. Watch how Kelly uses the run to set up the pass, something Day just couldn't figure out
Great content man. This is why I don't 'hate' Michigan fans. I dislike your team and will never root for ya'll, but its mostly good folks rooting for Maize and Blue. GO GREEN!!!!!!
Nobody on the face of the earth would put Lindgren on the same level as Chip Kelly. Kelly is one of the greatest offensive minds in modern college football history. He's never had this much talent to work with, not even close. Looking at a single season last year where he lacked playmakers, was replacing DTR and was caught up in the whole trying to be everything meant they took a step back but it wasn't like they were Iowa. I mean he had UCLA at the top of college football rushing the ball for multiple years at freaking UCLA. And now he simply has one job. Design and call the plays for a roster full of 4 and 5 star players. He will bring the toughness element back on the ground, something Ryan Day just wasn't good at.
Chip WAS ONCE among the brightest offensive minds in FB. He took the spread option to a whole new level when he was at Oregon. But at the nfl level his schemes were a bust. And for the same reason his system failed in the nfl is why it no longer has the effectiveness it once had in the college game, too much defensive team speed. Defensive team speed has caught up at the college level. And any option O is dependent on superior speed at one or two key positions.
@@gabeswitala2292 Silly. Chip is revered and respected among his peers and quite frankly anyone who knows anything about football is terrified at what he might do as an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR at Ohio State with that talent. His offenses literally at or near the top of college football in recent years i.e., 2022 where they were over 500 a game. They're physical and tough and schematically a nightmare to deal with. How do you figure his schemes don't work anymore with those kinds of numbers?
@@gabeswitala2292 LOL tell me you don't know football without telling me you don't know football. Jonathan Smith would crawl over broken glass to have CK as his coordinator. Every school in the country would. The last thing anyone wanted was to see him end up at Ohio freaking State. The dude literally has the two best RBs in the country and a fleet of 5 star receivers at his disposal. UCLA didn't have one guy on their roster last year that would even play at Ohio State.
I really liked Jon Smith even thought he was deserving of coach of the year in 2022 until Oregon State players made it public that he quit on his team during their rivalry week. Good thing he's a MSU and I can dislike him regardless
Jonathon Smith coached under Chris Peterson. Learned the quarterback position under Dennis Erickson. Wow! MSU is going to light it up in the Big Ten. It'll be like a fifth PAC-12 team now in the Big.
If you think that's bad you should have seen Texas Tech when Chris Beard left. He went to our rival school, took the majority of his staff, and supposedly had the secret meeting at McDonald's. Bear in mind this was 2 years after he took TTU to the championship, so it was a real gut punch on campus.
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No comment box on main page. But MSU in 2024.....dunno. Long road back.
@@armandhammer3782 Well, that's a given considering the state the program was left in after the disaster that was the previous regime. But I think it's fair to say that they can, at the very least, go bowling -- even in year one of the Jonathan Smith era. Competent coaching in and of itself likely lost State at least one or two games last year, so you have to figure that with an objectively better coaching staff, they'll take at least a small step forward. I am not saying they compete for a conference title immediately, but I am confident that they will be competitive more often than not, unlike the '23 season with the shutouts and numerous lopsided losses. It'll take time, but they've got the right coach in place, in my opinion, to right the wrongs of the last staff.
@@Oziot Yeah that's what we've been saying about Nebraska too.......but
@@armandhammer3782We? Well, you certainly won't find me hyping up Nebraska anywhere on the internet, as I'd really need to see it to believe it with them. After all, they haven't even made the postseason in nearly a decade.
@@Oziot That was very hurtful
Sam, I appreciate your objectivity towards MSU as a UM fan. I cannot even think of another UM fan in the media who can speak objectively about MSU.
Thank you, Gary. I try my best to be objective.
This is the same sentiment I hold on Sam as well, I am a Spartan fan and I think he does a fantastic job at giving an unbiased perspective on msu and separating the rivalry from giving real coverage
His Dad helps lol.
Another objective UM fan does not exist, to my knowledge
I'm a UofM alum and played for UofM 2012-2015. .your younger cousins s played for this coach in OregoN State and I'll say he has Dantonia mentality. But we just proved what happens when you go against the projected commitee favorites. They've wanted OSU GA or Bama to win ot all for the past 3seasons. Harbaugh comes out this year and criticizes NCAA and demanded player paying look what they did. We had half the talent but an old school, real team, smashmouth system and shut them all down. 3 peated B1Gand NCAA playoffs last 3 years of 4 team playoffs. Retired Saban(best coachever) and shut all the critical s up with the WORST NIL payed team up to this point. We figured out how to get teenagers to play for something bigger them themselves es and we DID it! Suspended our coach which has back fired CLEARLY. And shit everybody up 3 years in a row. This will never be done again 100😂😘🤙🏽
Johnathan Smith is ELITE. Aiden Chile is ELITE. This program, MSU, made the best hire of the year at coach and his history is as a 'program builder (much like Matt Rhule at Nebraska) so if the fans have just a little patience they will be rewarded with a strong future.
A future of what though? The B10 is loaded. I guess there are years where MSU can hope to sneak that third playoff spot after OSU and Oregon. I don't ever see MSU winning a B10 title in the new look B10. Their recruiting is not good enough
Prior to Darius Snow's knee exploding in week 1 last year, he was probably our 2nd most talented linebacker.
Thank you for the education, Jay. That is even better news for Michigan State's LB room. So would you say their entire two-deep has starting caliber players?
2 years ago *
@@collegefootballwithsam starting caliber, definitely. I just looked at our roster and I think Jordan Hall, Jordan Turner, Darius Snow, Cal Haliday and Brady Pretzlaff have potential
Let's hope that Darius can live up to Uncle Percy's legacy.
@@ghostieboi3992 Don't forget about Wayne Mathews III.
I do believe MSU will overachieve relative to their win total of 4.5. Although Coach Michalczik's no miracle worker, if he can produce a good -- not great or elite -- OL in year one that can perform consistently well regarding run blocking and pass protection, then I believe that State has some good pieces in place, specifically at QB, WR, and RB, to be competitive in most of their games and possibly reach the postseason. Full disclosure: I believe that they will go bowling with a record of 7-5, but there is potential for an 8-4 season if they manage to get a win in October against Iowa.
I think Michalczik is as close to a miracle worker as Sherrone Moore when it comes to OL development. I agree with you that MSU is good enough to flirt with that 8 win and potentially 9 win range if all the pieces fall into place, particularly at the LOS. Nice to see you back, Oziot.
As a Spartan alumni, you are very fair and thorough.
Love the content. FYI Jaden Reid transferred before the change of portal and was Coach D
Thank you!
This is a great step forward for Michigan State but it's going to take him a few years to look like what they did back in the mid 2010s
If you look back thru the years, sharty was only ever anything during down UM years.
@@gabeswitala2292 is that not a logical result…? Wouldn’t UMich being down…I don’t know… be a consequence of Sparty being up (and beating them)? Also, can’t we just as credibly flip your statement around? Except for 2021 (when Sparty still beat UMich anyway), which successful years has Michigan had where they had to go through a great MSU team? Certainly not last years team, which UMich fans pretty much unanimously views as the greatest team in school history if not history of the sport (at which thought any nonbiased viewers of the sport would struggle not to role their eyes)… that team gets to boast about destroying one of the worst MSU teams in program history (but wolverines will say fOrTy-NiNe To NoThInG as if they ought to boast about beating a headcoachless, qbless lame ducks squad). Idk, call me crazy, but this line from Gabe and UMich fans in general strikes me as a rewriting of history, which you think you can do because you’re the current top dogs*, but it’s a uniquely Michigan thing to think and is a take that’ll age like milk in the desert son as the Moore era unfolds
@j_r_junior Given that UM has historicaly been the far more dominant program, why hadn't MSU ever been able to be competitive at the same time?
@gabeswitala2292 why do the 40s matter? Those were the only times yall consistently won titles lol
@hemanths2230 Because that's the way history works. And be honest with yourself. Because I know you'll never be honest with me about it, if the history favored you than you'd be using it without reservation too.
Stupidest intro I've ever heard. Losing players due to a turnover in coaching staff, due to unregulated NIL and transfer rules, does not equal disorganized and disheveled.
I love the MSU WULL UPSET ONE TEAM SUPERIOR TO THEM prediction. I think that we will see a few big upsets this season.
Well... I mean Big Ten upsets. I think that the Big Ten's second tier teams will show up big this year.
Don’t get me wrong. The transfer portal was tough in April, but if players would rather chase money for second string spots rather than play on our team, we don’t want them.
Love the pride but it’s a whole new landscape. If we have that mentality we will slide further into irrelevance.
Reed was a Dantonio transfer
Facts lol
I don’t think this year you’ll see a top 10 team. I believe next year and the year after it’ll be when you see all these young players reach upperclassmen stature that they will all gel together and buy into the system. Similar to how MCDC is doing it.
That Elite QB is going to be running for his life and not because he wants to😂. MSU won't be 💩 until they build those lines.
I see only two but maybe three outright unwinnable games on MSU’s 2024 schedule. All nine others are definitely losable depending on how those programs are performing at the time, so it’s easy to see a lot of variance in expected win totals for Sparty. Last season’s team picked up four total wins amidst the head coaching debacle, a couple of which were under a deer-in-headlights interim coach in Barnett and maybe sum total two thirds total qbs accounting for the flag-football starter Noah Kim and the still undeveloped Katin Houser. Barring another set of Darian Snow-like injuries to key starters, .500 or 7-5 is not an outright preposterous goal for Spartan fans to have of the 2024 squad. But Vegas often know what’s up and they’re saying 4.5, so Spartan fans have got to be braced for missing out on a bowl again. It’s year one-just look for the fun in it, and any surprise success is gravy.
"definitely losable" 🤣
@@armandhammer3782 “non-guaranteed win” how should I put it? Lmfao if they’re ONLY losable then they’re also winnable
@@j_r_junior 😛
I have otimism above 4.5 wins. I see more in the 6 to 7 win range. They have a much better coaching staff from last year and had a very good portal haul. Even though they lost some good players they brought in some good players at key positions. They are improved at QB, o line, WR, TE, LB (especially pass coverage LB) and DB.
Of course, Michigan State will struggle against the elite of the Big Ten in 2024. That being said, everyone else is fair game. For Michigan State to beat Oregon or Ohio State, it would require a coach greater than Knute Rockne and Vince Lombardi!! Smith has the potential to be the next tier down from that Mt. Rushmore stature. Yes, I believe he is that good. It is an inescapable fact that Smith performed brilliantly at Oregon State. A college football residence comparable to Devil's Island!! This coaching staff has top ten capability. Perhaps higher. The Spartans have 24 transfer additions, including new players at every position of weakness in 2023. Every position group SHOULD be stronger this season, with the possible exception of the defensive line. All areas were hit hard in the portal with a huge addition of a solid recruiting class. I predict the Spartans will go 7-5 with upset wins a strong possibility against Iowa and/or Michigan. The 2025 season will be a breakout year with players developing under a superior strength and conditioning coach and staff. The Spartans will win. In short order. GO GREEN!!
Throwing shade at MSU by suggesting some of their athletic department budget went to NIL?
Me: “Is Sam just being too nice to us again?”
Sam: “This isn’t like the last time I was nice to Michigan State this is different”
O H
I also have optimism in terms of looking competent as a team and not beating ourselves, but I do not have any optimism of actually stacking up against the top of the B1G
MSU Alum! I have optimism this season. Looking forward to see the defense and improvements there and can’t wait to see the offense. Chiles could be special along with Velling and Carter but a lot falls on the strength and conditioning and coaching of the o line. Can’t wait to see this team play!
I think it’s easier to bring in top recruits to MSU compared to Oregon State. Just wait in a couple years MSU will be back to relevancy
Michigan State fan and alum here. Great analysis! Best of luck this upcoming season!
This isn’t betting advice and I’m not saying they win more than five games, but I slammed the over on the 4.5 win total. I think MSU’s floor is five wins but ya never know.
Sounds right.
9 or ten plus wins!!!
As an Oregon state fan mich state makes me jealous cuz this mich state team is just what Oregon state would have been had the pac 12 not been disbanded
Look at the brightside...playing a weaker schedule Oregon State will most likely have more wins this year.
Resubbed. Quality breakdown
I appreciate the support. I am trying my best to upgrade the quality of the show before 2024 kicks off, and I think a big part of that is diving deeper into statistics.
Great content, and fair. How much of a step back do you think Michigan takes this year?
I think Michigan reverts to a more extreme version of the 2021 team. We probably will have our worst pass offense since 2020, but our defense will be 2022 level. Thank you for your encouragement.
My quick take, they have as good or better talent than last year and they have vastly better coaching. They won 4 games last year. Talent and coaching is worth at least one more win. Outside 4 almost assured losses, they have 8 potentially winnable games (but they won't win them all). I'd say their floor is 6 wins and may win 7.
😂😂😂 MSU still sucks
I had the pleasure of meeting some of the new coaching staff over the winter in the hotel where they were all staying before they closed on their new homes in East Lansing. In particular the one who stood out, other than Coach Smith, was Mike McDonald the head strength/conditioning coach. He played at Purdue and he’s been at some top notch programs and he seemed to me to have the calm attitude and humility of a confident professional. As far as Coach Smith he impressed me the most. He was sitting by himself on a couch in the lounge next to the bar/restaurant watching sports on TV. Some guys at the bar, MSU fans, recognized him and were so excited to say hi. They had a back and forth for about 20 minutes; coach sitting on the couch, guys at the bar, shouting praises and thanks for taking over the program etc. One of the guys at the bar finally shouted to Coach “hey coach, we’re sorry to keep bothering you, we know you’d probably like to just enjoy your evening!” Coach Smith responded “Ah, no man, I’m down here hanging out. I love talking to you guys. If I didn’t want to talk to you I’d be up hiding out in my room.” It wasn’t fake, he really meant it
I hooe MSU fans can feel the excitment wev had! Mel Tucker had to pay the refs and got a once in a life talent (walker) to win. I honestly feel bad for east lansing and there fans. Youre litterally a team thats not won anything meamogful simce the 60s😂 half OSU and half MSU fans. Blocked punt vs us, k punt vs a nobody Notre Dame team, beat OSU on their down years and your best win in over 60 years was a rose bowl win against my younger cousins all freshman and sophmore stamford team who lost luck and mccaffrey the year before. 😂😂😂😂 What we just did will never be dupli ated and i hope you guys will be able to witness it. 49-0 our rivals at your home, beat PSU with our OC coaching, reitred Saban and won it all against the grain with 3 and 4 stars who wer non recruited and doubted for the past 3 years. On top of that had the worst NIL money out of any power 5 conference team! Played as an absolute team unit. No ego, NO BS! Played for eachother and shut ALL the haters up. Itll never be seen again 100%. ALL the "experts" counted us out and doubted us! We sat back, stuck our middle fimgers up 🖕🏽 and GRINDED midwest michigan style ! I pray and hope our lil bros fans will feel that REAL excitment and emotion but i dont see it happeming in our life time 😂 Good luck tho 👍 〽️🤙🏽
I'm expecting a 6-6 season. I do think MSU is being overlooked this year, and an okay schedule outside of late September to October.
But it's definitely going to take awhile to get the gears going. Even Dantonio needed a few years before things really turned around.
Love hearing all these bland TH-camr's comment on MSU...they all say the same thing because they have no insight on this program!
Me: “Is Sam just being too nice to us again?”
Sam: “This isn’t like the last time I was nice to Michigan State this is different”
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I also have optimism in terms of looking competent as a team and not beating ourselves, but I do not have any optimism of actually stacking up against the top of the B1G
Good stuff as always, Sam. I hope you are doing well. See ya soon.
I am having a great day, Chris. Thank you for the $2. How are you doing?
@collegefootballwithsam All good even though I am on day 8 of 9 on my vacation. Back to work on Monday. The in-depth breakdowns talking about players and strengths are always good. Gonna get to your newest release soon.
MSU might sneakily be a 7-5 to 8-4 team. No one talks about them and they’ve also been quiet
Definitely smashing the over on win total with the line at 4.5 but I don’t think any more than 6
Not sure where this narrative about Ohio State having issues or major concerns on their line comes from. 98% of teams in the country would take a group with 105 combined career starts, two all Big 10 players from last year and four guys that will be drafted to NFL rosters next year. Everyone isolates the Missouri game but the starting center Hinzman was suspended and the center was RG Matt Jones who didn't even know the calls. The guy that stepped into guard was so bad he ended up in the portal. Isolating one meaningless game and thinking Michigan State is going to whip them up front or something...nonsense. They'll benefit greatly from Chip Kelly's scheme especially in the run game which was always poorly designed under Day. That wasn't his thing.
Try asking Lsk Lou Holtz where this "narrative" comes from?
@@gabeswitala2292 Big tough Notre Dame 0-2 against Ohio State the last two seasons. Chip Kelly will scheme and put these players in a far better position to be successful too. Ask Notre Dame insider Bryan Driskell about that. As he said, there's nothing finesse about a Chip Kelly offense.
@@rosshalford7932 I really don't GAF about ND.
But hey, you down for a good game of two hand touch?
I don't just take the Missouri game into account. Against Indiana, Penn State, and Missouri the OL looked porous. Even against Michigan State the Buckeyes struggled to get a push last year but Henderson was so fast that he out angled the Spartans defense. The questions I have about Ohio State tie directly to their strength and conditioning coach and Will Howard's resume at Kansas State. I think they will benefit from Chip Kelly's scheme immensely in the ground game. Also, I never said that MSU would push them around, just that they could give the Buckeyes a challenge.
@@collegefootballwithsam Scheming up the run has never been Day's strength and some growing pains were expected losing three starters to the NFL and having a freshman center start 12 games after he had never played the position before. Chip's offense will look much more like what Urban Meyer did with incorporating QB run, something that was non existent for the last 4 years. Any issues with the OL should be looked at through the lense of national championship. They'll be really good because they're talented, veteran and now put in a position to succeed. Watch how Kelly uses the run to set up the pass, something Day just couldn't figure out
Defense looks good, but the MSU QB needs to go.
Even last years disaster team won 4 games, so they should get to 6 this year.
Maverick Hanson? Was Mom or Dad a Top Gun fan?
😂 Deserves? Lol. Deserve. Hilarious
I have high hopes for this team
Great content man. This is why I don't 'hate' Michigan fans. I dislike your team and will never root for ya'll, but its mostly good folks rooting for Maize and Blue. GO GREEN!!!!!!
As a EMU fan I love when these two titans are good at the same year. It’s just good for the state of Michigan
Not last year. Year before.
MSU is in for a rough couple years. But if they were a stock, I’d be buying the dip like crazy.
I agree, I think. If Smith is as good as Sam believes, these guys should become a force.
9-3, scUM and Iowa will lose to Spartans. MSU will be a very competitive team - everyone is sleeping on what’s brewing in E.L.
We will see if MSU will be elite. Talk is cheap
UM won't win 8 games this year
No they really don't. Great coaching overhaul but gonna be mid this fall.
No diddy, Ohio state by fiddy
Always. But... we need these guys to step it up. I want Little Brother to be good again.
5-7 incoming
Maybe so. Probably so. I don't have as much faith in a coach that is new to the Big Ten. I think Smith will need some time.
Nobody on the face of the earth would put Lindgren on the same level as Chip Kelly. Kelly is one of the greatest offensive minds in modern college football history. He's never had this much talent to work with, not even close. Looking at a single season last year where he lacked playmakers, was replacing DTR and was caught up in the whole trying to be everything meant they took a step back but it wasn't like they were Iowa. I mean he had UCLA at the top of college football rushing the ball for multiple years at freaking UCLA. And now he simply has one job. Design and call the plays for a roster full of 4 and 5 star players. He will bring the toughness element back on the ground, something Ryan Day just wasn't good at.
Chip WAS ONCE among the brightest offensive minds in FB. He took the spread option to a whole new level when he was at Oregon. But at the nfl level his schemes were a bust. And for the same reason his system failed in the nfl is why it no longer has the effectiveness it once had in the college game, too much defensive team speed. Defensive team speed has caught up at the college level. And any option O is dependent on superior speed at one or two key positions.
And BTW, third place in the PAC is not now or ever was "the top of college FB'
@@gabeswitala2292 Silly. Chip is revered and respected among his peers and quite frankly anyone who knows anything about football is terrified at what he might do as an OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR at Ohio State with that talent. His offenses literally at or near the top of college football in recent years i.e., 2022 where they were over 500 a game. They're physical and tough and schematically a nightmare to deal with. How do you figure his schemes don't work anymore with those kinds of numbers?
@@gabeswitala2292 LOL tell me you don't know football without telling me you don't know football. Jonathan Smith would crawl over broken glass to have CK as his coordinator. Every school in the country would. The last thing anyone wanted was to see him end up at Ohio freaking State. The dude literally has the two best RBs in the country and a fleet of 5 star receivers at his disposal. UCLA didn't have one guy on their roster last year that would even play at Ohio State.
@@rosshalford7932 The grid iron don't lie. Too much team speed on defense at the top CFB level for option offenses.
Look out for FAU. MSU might win 3 games.
Uneducated Walmarter. Incel.
You really do have no clue who calls the shots on the football head coach at a school like Michigan.
I really liked Jon Smith even thought he was deserving of coach of the year in 2022 until Oregon State players made it public that he quit on his team during their rivalry week. Good thing he's a MSU and I can dislike him regardless
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Jonathon Smith coached under Chris Peterson. Learned the quarterback position under Dennis Erickson. Wow! MSU is going to light it up in the Big Ten. It'll be like a fifth PAC-12 team now in the Big.
@@petermarshall7399 🤔
If you think that's bad you should have seen Texas Tech when Chris Beard left. He went to our rival school, took the majority of his staff, and supposedly had the secret meeting at McDonald's.
Bear in mind this was 2 years after he took TTU to the championship, so it was a real gut punch on campus.
@petermarshall7399 more Mike Riley than Erickson