TOXIC MASCULINITY IN SPACE
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I call it Sad Dadstra
CHRIS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG. Sad Dadstra. I damned near fell out of my recliner dying of laughter.
Dad sadtra 😂
The way this just made me UGLY CACKLE - 🤣😭💀
That's brilliant.
men would rather go to Neptune than to therapy smh
THIS
Right??
😂 omg
so sad, yet so true
The plot of this movie makes me so mad because the premise of "man realizes he has become his deadbeat dad in pursuit of his deadbeat dad in SPACE" could have been extraordinary.
And brad pitt is a really good actor and is really good at broken broke toxic men, once upon a hollywood made clear how misrable he is in van.
Yeah, they should have talked sport metaphor codd or somthing to explore the restrictive pain. Yeah, you can have that by brad being , not abl totalk and only in pace trm to even talk aout hi pain and , that could be a theme how he uses that to give us insight.
Hell that can be great, farscape did a lot with critons dad and not-dad there. I mean more about his mental health, but its in parts
You could replace the main character with a lamp and nothing would really change
A lamp that isn’t even on would do
Reverse sexy lamp test lmao
"Among all these stars, I will shine the brightest."
LAMP IN SPACE (2025)
Saw this in the theaters with my parents and we were all so bored. ONE DOES NOT NEED TO BORE AN AUDIENCE IN ORDER TO BE DEEP!!!!
This movie is so boring in its attempts at being profound. For a few days after watching it, any time something happened we would drop into a deadpan voice to narrate it, occasionally adding a daddy reference. "I feel like making popcorn. My father hated popcorn." Honestly, mocking the movie afterwards was the best part.
I'm going to start doing that narration for everything and when people ask what I'm doing Im going to say "it's the new masculinity"
I remember seeing this in theaters with my dad. He fell asleep. That's all I can really remember about it other than the monkey.
Lmao, amazing!
Jesus, they really went with zero subtlety. I thought you were summarizing/paraphrasing his convo with his dad but... Nah, he legit just says he never loved him. You couldn't have made that a slow, dawning realization as Roy is talking to his father who is waxing poetic about how much he loves space and his purpose out in it.
that clip made me burst out laughing because it was just such awful writing im glad someone else noticed 😭
@@miseryhymns right? It's like the writers sketched out some placeholder dialogue but never bothered to return and actually write the final draft version. It's like if they left all the green screen scenes as if, with the actors talking to tennis balls on sticks.
@@lycianempire exactly, sounds like something one might write in a first draft with a little note to expand upon and tone it down later
Not even, you could have te dad just being dismissive how my son hmm, not important, i have a job to do, go out of the way, Its important.
aftr him stating that and he still being dismissive.
How is that dialogue. Youcan say that with a therapist dialogue reflecting, not there. Hav him coming back and bing in tratment because they wont let him go due the deaths blamed on space madness, leading to that being clear laid outt wih a therapist, he forward, let go due deemed not mad, meeting his wife.
He killed people ok, and a therapy setting forced could work.
Based on your description I honestly thought Pitt going through SPACE MADNESS then finally meeting Tommy Lee Dad would all be a hallucination because he was obsessed with finding his father and denying himself any connection to his emotions. I'd much rather have a film where Pitt's character in the second hour has to face consequences for his actions and accepts his emotions over how his dad's neglect failed him.
Anyway if you ever run for office I'm voting for you based on 15:53 alone
Do they actually explain the fucking monkey or is that just a bizarre fucking side quest for stoic manpain lmfao
They do not explain 😬😬😬
I just finished reading Ursula K. LeGuin’s essay collection ’Space Crone’ and it was wonderful! The title essay explores wonderfully why women’s work and ideas are imperative for humanity. Not really _about_ toxic masculinity but about the effects of toxic masculinity and how we can combat it. Highly recommend the collection to anyone interested in feminist literary theory from the perspective of a genre fiction author!
“This movie isn’t toxic masculinity. It’s (describes toxic masculinity exactly).”
Also he’s talking about these movies deconstructing toxic masculinity like they’re Fight Club (how much you wanna bet he wouldn’t understand you if you explained to him that movie’s commentary and that he’d think that movie is oxidized masculinity but the ones he talked about aren’t? 😂)
There's no such thing as toxic masculinity in concept. Stop using it like a sin.
I'm a 45 year old male. My childhood was all the 80s movies. And Bell Hooks changed my perspective on life, and I also grew up in a very conservative household. It's not that I hated literature like Bells. It's just that I didn't know. Also, I read Bloodlines Star Wars book by Claudia and enjoyed it. Not much for Romance, but I think I will read the Star Wars Romance by Claudia just because she's such a good writer
There's always something so telling about a man the way he describes the Joker 😬 Also I didn't realize it was possible to neither Show nor Tell in a movie, talk about special effects.
I warned family away from this movie by describing it as a sleep-inducing film about how far a man will literally go to avoid therapy.
Super fun space facts: Neptune was the first planet to be discovered based on the movements of other planets and moons, not by sight. Reading about the calculations involved in this process is far more narratively engaging than watching Ad Astra.
Honestly yea. After watching that god awful mess I decided to do some research on whether humans can even set foot on Neptune out of curiosity, and I can say without a doubt that was far more entertaining than the actual film 💀
Every time we start to make progress on feminist issues, man children directors have to make bad films like this. They don’t care that men have actual issues, or that women aren’t responsible for those issues. It’s so shallow.
I think this movie thought it was going to be kinda noir (the deadpan monologues) and it…is not.
What are men's actual issues there's no such thing we are talking man under feminism just like there's no such as Taliban talking about woman's equality.u take talking about male as a threat against feminism.
@@narendrasomawat5978 learn to speak English properly and then come argue with me about men and feminism.
Maybe the real daddy issues were the friends we made along the way
It's weird how often guys identify themselves with the villain. I mean, in this case the dad is the villain and there really isn't a moment where the hero rejects what he's becoming because of his obsession with his dad.
There's a really good story in there about expressing emotion being viewed as a weakness by society when it actually makes things better, but that's not in this story.
I've not seen this movie but, based on your description, I wonder if Brad Pitt's character actually died and the entire movie is just some kind of afterlife purgatory where he works out his unresolved issues before moving on. 'Cause I feel like it makes more sense from that lens view.
I watched this with my folks, and said something like, "straight men will go to Neptune and explode their dad before they go to therapy." They were not amused.
For a moment I thought that you were reviewing the amazing gay furry visual novel Adastra.
not yet
Omg, that's actually a thing.
Should i check it out?
@@CiaLaVirago I entered expecting an er0tic vn and I ended up in a political drama with cosmic horror and I cried a lot. 10/10 would recommend
@@Djinn_Entonic for real tho. I was about to comment the same thing. That vn literally made me cry.
So I'm going to have to finish this vid after dinner. But wanted to drop a fact that space movies love to ignore. In studies all women crews are the most cooperative and thus the most viable for long term space travel alongside lower nutritional requirements on average. Also men for some reason loose their sight when in space much more than women. Astronauts in scenarios like these should be 75% plus women, but some how it's always +90% men
I love the Joker movie but that’s the worse way to describe that movie. Sadly a lotta men didn’t understand the Joker movie which is clear by how they talk about it.
I've always thought it was more a commentary on the failings of society as a whole that do not accept people that do not fit in the boxes they pressure people to fit into. That's if course high level and it's much deeper... but yeah.
@@dianesaccomano2671I definitely felt like the movie was commenting on how men idolize the Joker and how bad and ridiculous that is and I totally get what you’re saying as well
I am a 27-year-old man who has endured toxic masculinity in the workplace for the past three years. I have a supervisor and multiple coworkers who likes to make comments on my figure, my hair, my clothes, my sex life (or lack thereof... I guess), while simultaneous bragging about their own, on top of that speculating about my sexuality, and even asking me multiple times if I am gay. (I am straight, so as you can see it is pointless). Did I mention they think I'm wasting my time reading books? Yeah I love to read! While none of this should matter to me because I only deal with them 8 hours, 5 days a week, I can only take so much of it and sometimes it becomes so draining that I feel like crying, which would just be another reason for them to tease me. I've only recently began to come to terms with who I am as a man. I am not tough. I am not sexually active (nor do I really have a desire to be). I am a crier. And I have a deep love for musical theatre. And I feel like we need more art, movies and books that teaches that lesson to men that there is no pinnacle of what it means to be a man, we are who are, and we should love our selves for being different and individualistic because that is what makes us special. Toxic masculinity is real, and its harmful.
That being said, thank you Rachel for ripping into this movie because I was the only movie I ever walked out of before it was over. Also, you just gained a subscriber!!
Everything should not have to be related to feminism.
I struggle to get into space dramas, especially when they involve a lot of technical science things. My favorite has to be The Martian. Great cast, having the science explained without being treated like an idiot, very good humanizing moments, comedic bits that hit, etc. The very realistic depiction of feeling like you might die alone in space was gutwrenching. I like that he does fill traditional standards of masculity to keep the worst thoughts and feelings away at first, but does open up more and more in the video diaries about the fact that he is scared and doesn't want to die. He asks his friends to console his parents while crying. He genuinely loves his friends like family too. The movie also does a great job showing the physical strain on his body. If you pay attention his skin gets rougher and he gets skinnier. I think the scene where he shaves the day before he heads to the rescue site is meant to tell himself that he can't give up yet.
Also loved the grey politics with NASA and the media.
I love the Martian!
" [...] back to star command, or... whatever" 😆FGDJH PLEASE that made me chuckle
i loved claudia gray’s other book ‘lost stars’ because it’s a star wars romance book about two childhood friends from the empire who become enemies as adults because of their opposing views and it’s soooo much better. i’m excited to read her original novel, especially with your recommendation of it!
OMG! Someone who loves Lost Stars! I found another person on the internet who read this book as well and loves it as much as I did? Insane.
I honestly thought i was the only person who read this book because NO ONE talks about it
Do we ever learn why his heart rate won't go up? Is he sick? Is he on drugs? Why doesn't his body work right?
Because he has no emotions? If we ignore how physical exertion works?
@@kbird6208 This. His emotional disconnect is so strong that he can't raise his heart rate even when going through physical exertion.
How did that dude somehow see a completely different film than everyone else? What's the weather like on his planet?
I would go with brad pitt being basically an empty character that all kind of things can inserited into, for sad men. It allows to project? And mediums with a slf nsert are fine, but its weirdly specific trauma wise for that.
And the director might not b aware he basically made a self insert.
i seriously don't understand why men getting in touch with their emotions is always described as a 'crisis'. Like, what's the crisis? Are men not human?
Also, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is the absolute worst movie Tarantino has coughed out. It's just about a washed up actor mewling about his irrelevance and gets to kill a killer with Brad Pitt, who was as boring there as he was in Ad Astra.
Yes, that movie was so bad! I’m so tired of Tarantino showing off his foot fetish in every movie. There were sooo many unnecessary foot shots. 🤦🏾♀️
When movies are stacked with A list stars I tend to presume the movie is just a rich man's skewed idea of what's "good" because rich people don't exist in the same reality as the rest of us. I'm going to presume THIS movie is the same.
Great video :)
I liked the killer baboon...I think thats it.
More movies would be greatly improved by the inclusion of killer baboons.
@@hannahbrennan2131 agreed.
Funny thing and apropos of nothing, my brother-in-law and I (separately) watched Arnold Schwarzenegger’s film “Conan the Barbarian” many years ago. We recently re watched it and compared our memories from the first viewing. I recalled that Conan ran a lot, where in other movies he would have ridden, and they tended to show him eating strange things (rat on a stick from Discworld comes to mind). My brother-in-law remembered the near naked girl being thrown into his prison cell (which I had absolutely no memory of seeing in the film). I think that a Freudian psychologist would make a lot of that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
When the spinoff about the killer baboon. It could be a dark comedy.
First off, leave my guy Buzz Lightyear alone. Secondly, your makeup looks great. Third, you're great and I love you.
favorite daddy(parent) issues series Percy Jackson hands down, Their parents literally cause almost every single issue in the entire series and just have their kids deal with it plus the family dynamics are just wild
After reading Samuel Delaney, My standards for sci fi have gone way up.
There’s nothing sadder to contemplate than a future of subways on the moon 💀
I know it's a personal pet peeve, but 9/10 I hate voice overs. Like, you can get across so much emotion and theme without having a talking head explaining what I'm supposed to feel. Hate commercialism in space? Just show all the buildings crowding the moon and how blinding and obnoxious the lights are, or whatever. Hate people taking resources? Show them mining the moon and have the main character looking disgusted or flashback to people destroying earth with the same tools and comparing the destruction. It just wears me out seeing nothing interesting and hearing someone complain in their head the whole time. (And also lmao the father's just telling him his 'feelings' with no emotion, all that build up to see his dad and without any ceremony he's just, 'oh yeah I never cared about you or your mom I just looove space. Let me get back to work, my offspring.')
I'd like to see one of these toxic masculinity characters accept that he caused harm, and even if he then goes on, "I loooove space more than any relationship," the one he's speechifying to can say, "Sure, you can do that. And I can protect myself from continuing to repeat your poisonous, damaging cruelty. You loooove space more? Then don't get married. Don't have children. Don't make promises you never meant. And even if you thought you meant the promise, once you realize you didn't, be an adult and apologize!"
I can't wait for you to review the movie that I commissioned you hehe 😘
It took most of this video for me to realize that I have actually seen this movie at some point lol. I was convinced I hadn’t until you mentioned Ruth Negga and I managed to remember that scene. I would’ve sworn I’d never seen it though-it left no impression on me at all 😂
Having a non-responsive heart rate doesn't sound cool to me, it just sounds like you might have a serious heart condition that you need treatment for. Also, people who are bored about their universe make their universe boring, please writers, pick up on how it makes your stories inadvertently boring!
The face-eating space monkey was such a shock to me, and I was so ready for some insane explanation, and then there…just…kinda wasn’t one? You said it perfectly, this movie was just boring and pointless and a huge waste of talent.
I love how Rachel uses Toy Story gifs.
the space monkey had to eat the guy's face because he was like, "what else am I gonna eat, a fucking Subway sammich, excuse me I have standards"
I’m never going to get past the idea of the word “astronaughty” which is not what you meant when you said that 😅
This is months late but I put you on in the background so:
The heart rate thing would suck. Im on a beta blocker for heart rate and my doctor said to take it after exercise because limiting the hearts ability to increase during exercise can make you pass out.
Our main boy would be constantly dizzy if his hr couldn't increase, because it cant push oxygen quick enough
I forgot I even watched this movie. And then it took a while watching this that I hated it because of all the narration. It made me think the director didn’t think the audience was smart enough to pick up on the cues unless it was all spelled out for them.
I genuinely can’t think of an astronaut movie I like because genuinely the slow motion scenes and fake deepness seem to be so common throughout. Ooof.
Once upon a time... in Hollywood is really good when looking at the power of manipulation (Mason is only in the film for a moment but his power is palpable) and watching Leo DiCaprio's role, as an older actor losing the thing that makes him loved - his looks - is really meta.
Lol! This makes me think of Under Water (or whatever it's called) with Kristen Stewart getting blown up in slow motion multiple times in slow motion while narrating sudo philosophical nonsense.
WAIT IVE SEEN THIS I STRAIGHT UP DIDNT REMEBER BECAUSE IT WAS SO DULL LMAO
truly one of the most bland movies to ever exist
someone watched 2001 space odyssey and didn't understand what made it great, just took from it the idea of long shots with no dialogue.
When I first heard the term "toxic masculinity" I was on board. To deny the truth of it is to be blind to the problems created by it. I'm 55. I grew up during the beginnings of feminism where men where trying to figure out this "being a healthy fully realized man" thing. I got so many different messages from all sides. Boys don't cry to men aren't afraid of their emotions (I agree with the latter). I gave in to the former, boys don't cry, mentality. To cry, or show strong emotions regardless of what it is (except for lust) is to not be a "true man." I absolutely disagree with this statement, but I can't ignore the fact I still behave as if I agree with it.
I am gifted with (or cursed according the the situation) a highly sensitive personality, meaning I feel emotions intensely. I've left work early on more than one occasion due to being overwhelmed with sadness. I cried during my whole wedding. I couldn't stop if I wanted to. As you can see, the first situations are curses, the latter a gift. To be overcome with emotions when I see a van Gogh or Monet or a stunning sunset is truly amazing. And just as meaningful that is, the opposite is just as crippling.
As a man growing up and dealing with emotional extremes in those conflicted world is a sharp edge to walk on. Because of my extreme emotional experiences, I find myself guarded at all times for fear of not being manly enough while at the same knowing that's bullshit. Then there is the question, is my reaction reflective of the situation (and who determines that anyway?)?
I understand my case isn't the norm. The majority of men don't deal with emotional sensitivity, they don't deal with emotions at all. But this is why I have problems, we live in a world where men are afraid of emotions and here I am, an emotional man too afraid to let them flow.
Toxic masculinity hurts everyone, and in some way, it hurts men the most.
My husband has gone through some of this. When his mother died, and ever since, he periodically gets overwhelmed, and he thinks I'm the only one who can accept him crying about it. And my dad was the same. He came so close to crying at times, but because I was his daughter, he felt he shouldn't. 😿
@@nancyjay790 there's no such thing as toxic masculinity in concept. U r using it like a sin don't woman go through toxic femininity
@@narendrasomawat5978 Any position or belief system has the potential to be toxic when certain parts of it are taken to extremes. Women can be so docile (often called a feminine trait) that they can make no decision on their own. If you can't think of any situation where that could be a problem, you have led an incredibly sheltered and fortunate life. Masculinity itself is not toxic, but, for example, if a man feels he can never cry, when he is swamped by grief for any reason, he would feel immense pressure to bury all his natural responses due to the expectations of masculinity. This could lead to mental and emotional breakdown, which would be more pressure on him.
I am sorry if this is meaningless for you, or if I appear to be insulting. We are all expected to fulfill certain roles in society, as children and as adults, in school, in home, in work environments, in stores, in restaurants, when at a party, when at a ceremony, etc and so on. Often, having a defined role makes it easier for us to know how to deal with a situation. But sometimes we need to be less focused on being the role when we or others may need our compassion and empathy. Part of being human is being fallible, and accepting people. But when that fallible person is hurting themselves and others, our compassion should intervene to help them out of a destructive behaviour. Maybe?
me, halfway through the movie: So where's amicus?
I actually really loved Ad Astra. I don’t know why but I found myself enjoying the whole thing.
I wish I would’ve watched it high because I probably would’ve had a good time
@@ReadswithRachel oh my god I think you just gave me something to do Saturday
😂 love this for you
The only thing I remembered from Ad Astra was the baboon part.
I read Claudia Gray's Leai : Princess of Alderan, and really enjoyed that, so I am excited about your book rec!
I had a friend wh cmmitted suiciide. I knew hiim very well. I was emotinal and vulerable in front of him we occassionally worked together. I was never more than a phone call away. He had his a hard place in his employment but things were not as bad as he thought.. While his wife and kids were at church, he shot himself. Had he held on just a few more weeks he would have had a great job. I'm angry that Bob did not reach out to me, especially because he had seen my struggles. I was dealing with a mentally unstable wife who attempted suicide three times and endured long incarcrations in mental hospitals, leaving me to balance work and a young son. I came through it. My wife got a bit better. We had a second son. She divorced me because our sons were growing up to be men and changing but me, while I was geting older, was a constant visible reminder to her of when things were not so good and she was ill. What really chaps my hide is, despite leaving a note on the door to not come in and to call the police,. his son, the same age as my oldest, entered the house and discovered his father dead. Bob COULD have called the cops just before he pulled the rigger. His own father was a cop. For him it was true. "It's not hard being a man once you get used tom the lonliness."
I don't understand the very specific sort of science fiction fan who will say characters like Spock or Data are their favourite because of their ability to be "stoic science man", and not notice that their character growth is entirely rooted in either learning how to handle their emotions or their desire to better themselves just by having emotions. This movie was a snorefest, and I say that as someone who likes the genre of "staring silently at stuff" scifi. If you want a good film from that niche there is the Swedish film "Aniara" that is based on the poem of the same name. I hesitate to actually recommend it because it is a heavy sit that involves a lot of really upsetting/very triggering issues (suicide/self-harm to name a few) and you will probably need a nap and a cry afterwards. I sure did.
Especially spock, and data, ar very emotional, so much in vulcans they repress they need murdersex all 7 years.
The poit is to not jude spock for havig a hard time understanding but also him dealing with emotions, thats why he is an autism icon too, but yah spocks cotradictions and acting irrational ar hown as , no he is not emotionless and learns open up.
I really wanted to see this when it first came out but never got around to it. Now I'm very glad I didn't 😂
"High Life" starring Robert Pattenson is a space movie that was... odd
An example of too much showing and no telling lol
Honestly. The article at 14:38 makes a good point about this being representation of maleness, but in a different way than they stated in the article. This movie can showcase what art looks like when it's devoid of emotion, and give us insight into how men make content for themselves. It's actually kinda depressing if you think of it this way.
I man if it made pople talk about toxic masculinity its a plus, but no rpressed shown pain cia sopace metaphors, really?!
@@marocat4749
Not really. That wasn't the point of the movie, and even if it was it would still be bad bc it didn't have engaging characters.
Ok but full stop, the sci-fi channel had the wildest schlock, used to spend mornings with a friend watching whatever happened to be on, loved it
I liked Ad Astra. But the thing is, I saw it more as a cowboy movie in space with the stereotypes that carries (stoic main character who is also a badass, etc), so I think that's why enjoyed it. I wasn't taking a lot of it seriously. Also, likely because I don't mind long, silent, contemplative shots (I enjoy David Lynch's work, after all, lol).
However, I do agree that this is a movie with plenty of flaws. Given the themes that it was trying to handle, it could have been great instead of a mediocre story with great GCI. It makes me wonder if this could have benefitted from being a longer form instead of a movie or just better writers.
Reminds me of the film that played in Mr Beans vacation
looks like the surges are originating from the Ligma Project lmao
As a son and a dad I am thankful every day that I had a great dad. My sons have no daddy issues. My dad was abused but he did not pass that abuse on. My son's girlfriend praises how good a father my youngest son is. I also don't have a lot of mommy issues despite the fact that she was a compulsive gambler who was never home and cheated on my father flagrantly and often. So many folks in Hollywood both male and female have daddy issues that they have no idea how to deal with in a mature way. I don't know why that is. Funny the plotline of this movie is similar t that of the truly shitty novel "Armada" by Ernest Kline, as immature and incompetent man wih as much toxic masculinity as it is possible for a man to have. .
there is a furry visual novel by the same name. much better it seems like
I always expect Brad Pitt to be in disappointing projects so this is really par for the course
Edit: modern BP projects, obvi
I saw this in theaters. This movie infuriated me.
I mean, if they wanted to push the entire “aliens” theme. They could have seen Roy and his wife meet and they could have overlayed his wife in a way that she looked like an alien - showing that the fruitless pursuit of extraterrestrial life is pointless when there are veritable “aliens” amongst us that we refuse to connect with.
How aboutthey thin an alien did that to the statio or its at least a suspicion,and his dad, is the alien. Not rally but thdeme wise.
I watched this movie recently and was also left super disappointed. I wouldn't even have finished it if it wasn't for the person I watched it with wanted to finish it.
Lawd, me watching the Adam Sandler space movie, like, if this is one more space metaphor for a man unable to articulate his feelings and being lonely, I swear....(and my husband saying, what about Sandra Bullock, and me betting dollars to donuts that role was origionally intended for a man.)
80 bpm isn't even a big deal. Regular ol' athletes have can have heart rates that are ridiculously low. Hospital always thought my grandfather was having heart attack, but no, his resting bpm was 40. So even when he was upset, it wasn't high.
Sounds like all thrills of watching 2001, minus HAL and the weird space baby. (I fell asleep so many times watching 2001.)
Weirdly, that slow-mo walk reminded me of the psychedelic scene in 2001, where Dave seems to be transformed by the end. Except that is a movie that makes space look cool.
most movies in recent years have these horrible filmmaking decisions of no dialogue, panning shots, awful one dimensional crap --- i think it is mostly ineptitude that caught on as a trend with indie films circa 2010s and then it became cool to be indie and well, that was what indie was. and in the silence, the filmmaker and directors' biases and shortcomings are louder. so happy we are due for a change in the filming fads soon lol
It's funny and sad how people typically men stand with Phoenix's joker. Did they not watch the last five minutes of the film.
The joker is an unreliable narrator. He lied to you. The whole movie never happened
The space monkey???????????? I was unprepared for that clip
There are three top-tier production films with similar plots/setting that came out in succession, that are so interesting to marathon and compare. All three went to great pains to consult experts and extrapolate from existing theory and science too: Nolan's Interstellar, James Gray's Ad Astra and Claire Denis' High Life. They are thematically so apart though. Nolan does his -air of great importance- vaguely centrist great man theory thing, then James Gray is a Gen X man working through his generation's father issues (fully relate, we're not ok), and then Denis, of course, is a genius, giving us the nihilistic French intellectual version (and by far the best film). To be clear I like all of them, they are all great cinema made by top directors.
Good review
Thanks!
OK BUT WHY THE MONKEY EATING THE MANS FACE??? THATS SO SCARY TO ME AND THEY JUST NEVER EXPLAINED IT??
They really said 2001: A Space Odyssey but make it terrible in every way lol
I was almost out of High School when I took my brother to see a showing of 2001: a Space Odyssey. We were both amazed with how good the special effects were, at the same time we were scratching our heads over what the hell was going on. The book was better than the movie, but the movie remains a classic. My brother and I still crack "Dave" jokes all these years later.
Other hard science fiction movies I love: Contact--with Jodie Foster, Dark Star (which is just nuts but fun), Forbidden Planet, the Andromeda Strain, and Arrival. The one I saw as a kid that scarred me for life was Silent Running. That one gave me nightmares for years.
Unless there's more going on other than existential angst, I tend to avoid movies like this. If I want to see men in space I'll re-watch Space Cowboys. More fun.
Oh my gosh space Cowboys!!!
@@ReadswithRachel Tommy Lee Jones was fun in that one. I hate it when he has to play a jerk.
yes, and good elderly represetation.
And contact really i think talks similarly how we want the aliens but also, the ral step and hurdle is society and out iner journeys?! OPlus its never i space, and we got more than brad pit. Seriously meia and society and people reacting is interesting. And the slow nd steady push forward that can happen.
Mood i think does in space buton a station and going mad theme?
gods when i first watched this movie i thought the beginning with him falling from space was pretty cool (it was pretty and also i didn't think it was possible lol) but literally i could not tell you the plot of this movie. like??? what was it about? why was he at mars? why does mars have a subways? there was no worldbuilding and it was boring.
Ohh I remember watching this movie when it came out, but realizing that all the takes (from critics and pundits) were like poison. It was a "me" movie, where what I enjoyed came only from my lived experience. I didn't make the connection of male son and male parent, it echoed my experience as a girl losing a father early on and only hearing about him from things he wrote before I was born, trying to fit that into the mold of "admirable man" that family had of him, and his admirability becoming what others expected from me.
Again: that all came from my own experience. The movie just happened to have voids at the perfect places for me to fill on my own.
(Also I'm an architect so the long ass quiet scenes were my architecture-enjoyment breaks 😅)
I was confused about the title at first because since when do you review furry porn visual novels? Adastra did make me cry though, I love my big wolf husband.
silence = deep
Definitely an attempt at making another 2001. It didn't work.
I think the reviewer quoted is kind of on the right track, but for the wrong reasons.
Pitt's biggest issue in the movie is that he can't emote in any way which is caused directly by his father being extremely toxic during his upbringing. When Pitt finds out his father might be alive he does the one thing every boy who was verbally and emotionally stunted by his dad want's to do: Find his dad and gain approval. In the end, Pitt finds his dad (now as an adult with a better cognition) and realizes his dad was not a good man and will never really love anyone. Pitt acknowledges that he still loves his dad (letting go of the toxicity instilled in him) and symbolically let's his dad go. It may have been literal, but no one was there to witness his dad was alive so we only have Pitt's character's testimony on that. Ultimately, by giving up his dad and starting to let go of the toxic masculinity he was taught, he's able to begin the process of reconnecting with his estranged wife. Something his father never did even with his son.
Oh wow! That sounds like a chore to watch!
What I think the initial reviewer missed and maybe even you (as much as I love your takes and take-downs) is @21:15 that while Roy's father wasn't physically present, the myth of him was, and filled the void Roy felt, but offered him nothing emotionally, just a vapid blueprint (including all his father's failures) to emulate, which he did (emotional abandonment, the divorce, celibacy of his career, etc.). The uber (toxic) male is very much built on myth and aspiration to reach such an unobtainable status. This movie can be interpreted as an examination of the ultimate in toxic male relationships: man and the Abrahamic God.
The mythological God is referred to as a Heavenly (hello, space) Father and could easily be argued to have gone out for ciggies about two thousand years ago, but a note he left *swears* he'll be back any day now. Or at least that's what you're told he said; you could never read his handwriting.
The God as Father, he leaves only his mythos and his internally contradictory, putative, emotionally inconsistent and self-aggrandizing liturgy (Roy's father's fame and legacy).
The biblical stuff is low hanging-fruit: the electrical surges (lightning of God's wrath), man being struck down from his audacious tower by his Father (a la Babel), cast from the Heavens (fallen from grace) only to learn that this man/God/myth might still be alive. So man pursues him; seeking, what? A cruel, obsessive leader, he learns, who killed his crew (people) by taking them out into the middle of nowhere/space and keeping them hostage (I'll take Hebrews in the desert for 40 years, Alex) and finds only silence.
The return of Roy's heartrate is the return of potential, of something he desires that he believes he cannot give himself. Love? Validation? Accountability? Answers?
In the end, his Father/God tells him to let go, that there is no love here for Roy, that there never was. The Father's love itself was an empty myth as much as the God. Roy lets go of God, finding his unconstrained heartbeat and returns to his wife ... Eve.
You said his wife was named Eve, but her name was never spoken, and it was no wonder. I face-palmed. The movie's themes take on the subtlety of a train wreck the minute you know it. Then consider what Roy's name means.
Roy, anglicized, means King but El Roi in the Bible is one of the Hebrew names for God- specifically God of Sight, but has also been translated as "God saw me". Very appropriate since we are following Roy's journey to force a confrontation with his ghostly father, who finally "sees" him.
This is my plea to anyone wanting a better payoff to the "emotionless space character learns to emotion" arc to read _Losers in Space_ by John Barnes. The characters start out flat and nearly indistinguishable because their entire society is based on performativity (basically social media posturing taken to the farthest extreme). Their only real currency is visibility and status, so they're all taught to present themselves in the same idealized way. Their interests and personalities emerge once they're given the space to grow.
PS I know some versions of the book place diagrams and hard sci fi trappings in odd spots. Don't let that deter you. You can skip it and treat it like end notes if you don't want the flow of the story to be interrupted with math homework. Do what you want. Live your best life.
I refuse to see "Joker".
Good Lord, must've been one hell of a movie to go through. Also to compare this movie to the Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix? Oh no, that's a tragic villain story. You will not compare a man with daddy issues to a man who slowly descends into the Joker, the Clown Prince of Crime! No sir, no way, no how, never! Not in a million years, even Parasite is a Korean film about the different types of classes in society.
I remember liking the movie. But I think it was because of the musical score lmaao
Had a great score!
The Minecraft fanfic is much better
How come your fundie parents were cool with sci fi? (Also, hello there!)
My parents divorced and my dad was very lax about media. My mom and stepdad were very strict about media, they didn’t even have cable. At my dads house I could basically watch whatever as long as it wasn’t queer, anti capitalist, or anti Christian.
3:50 - I'm confused by this comment. Like...the imagery suggests this moon colony is safe and successful. Does he want the moon colony to be like a socialist commune rather than this subway/mall? I mean I might want that, but he doesn't seem the type. Does he want there not to be a colony at all, and we just explore space for the heck of it? What?
You missed the metaphor of his dad is a void which is why he joins the void of space. Sike. like the shit looks boring.
I loved lost city of z!