Please watch the entire video including reading the photos of the black hair stories before you comment. The amount of ignorance I saw in response to my last reaction and on Army twitter prompted me to make this video. I hope it can enlighten at least one person if nothing else. Thank you.
People mixing up Assimilation when blk people have to adjust their hairstyles to make other people comfortable. None of them know that our hair was shaved without our permission, we had to be forced to wear scarfs so that people couldn't be mesmerized by Afro hair.
This is the type of army we all need! As much as we praise them for all their hardworks and achievements, when things go wrong, WE NEED TO POINT THEM OUT. Thank you for this enlightening video. I hope people educate themselves on this matter because ignorance is worse than idiocy.
the issue is when things that are typically from black culture are done by non - black people it is seen as cool but when we do it it gets a negative response
yeah we don’t. it is hard being a black k-pop fan seeing your culture being used when they don’t even like us blacks. they say we are quick to pull the race card and overreact but they don’t understand. it’s one of the only things of our culture that we know about(music and style). we were brought to America as slaves and it’s hard to trace back our roots. all we have left and know about it our music and style like how we dress and wear our hair. slowly, different races are taking it from us, appropriating it, and they call it appreciation and ignorance and that they don’t what they are doing. it hurts us to see that and they don’t understand that it’s all we have. they’re taking everything from us and making it “cool and trendy” but it’s not just that.
I don't know why some armys feel so bad about calling out BTS when they do something problematic (i am also army). BTS say they want to hear our stories, they wanna hear our voices so if we speak up about it enough for them to see it, they will (or better) listen. People say things like "well they are Korean and don't know anything" but if so, then that is the exact reason we should educate them. Calling them out doesn't hurt anyone, it will help BTS grow and learn as people and artists. BTS has also helped millions of people grow and learn. Army, please see them as human too, no one is perfect.
Exactly! We all know that they’re all good people. Just uneducated. As someone who has lived in Korea you can see that they aren’t really educated in these things especially since it’s a very traditional country. However if you are going to be a world wide star you have to be considerate to the world wide fans. Get information ask the fans on what to know and such things. Education and respect is needed for these things.
I noticed that it was the rap line that are the only ones that have cultural appropriate hairstyles to give off that hip hop or what they say “reggae” hairstyle type
5:19 OMG THAT IS TOO TRUE😮😮. I never noticed that whenever they did black hair styles they associated it with their hiphop songs and honestly that IS mimicking black hiphop culture. I HATE it when I see KHipHop artists do braids, dreads or any black hairstyles because they think its hiphop. You don't have to have black hairstyles or black anything to do hiphop.
I always hate how black people get punished for wearing their own hairstyles because they look "unproffessional" its degrading and offensive. I never understood how people deemed it unacceptable for black people to wear their natural hair, its beautiful and should be respected. Discrimination needs to be stopped. Also, there needs to be education about this in the kpop industry so they dont keep repeating these mistakes.
I completely understand you and cultural appropriation has become such a common thing that's its frustrating. I am an Indian and many times kpop idols have disrespected my culture as well. Eg Lee Hyori dancing to Gayatri Mantra( our sacred prayer) , blackpink mocking our dance "Bharatnatyam" and recently the new blackpink song HYLT disrespecting my God and religion. I want all the agencies and the idols to be careful with their work and also the fans should stop defending them.
@@bewhoiam7130 that people are either uneducated or they just don't care about their as well as others' culture anymore and would love to support anything and anyone to seem "cool"?
This is the most valid, necessary and concise cultural appropriation video I see on the internet. It is not about the hairstyle it self on its own but it's the fact that there is a negative connotation some people present it with (not in this case, but more in general),and more importantly the responses that are sometimes literally life threatening to us black people face wearing our own hair from our own culture. Having it glamourized like this while are people losing jobs, getting kick outta school and things like that who are black is what makes it disrespectful. THAT IS WHAT ARMY AND THE REST OF THE WORLD NEED TO UNDERSTAND. Eathing food and listening to music is not appropriation.
Thank you for making this video, I just had a discussion with a person (who is black) that didn’t understand why it makes black people uncomfortable when kpop idols (or non black people in general) wear our hairstyles.
Girlllll those ones are the worst because they’ll have you thinking you’re the crazy one. I get that some black people have managed to be sheltered from discrimination depending on their living situations, but the rest of the world isn’t like that. People need to wake up. I’m happy you liked the video 🥺♥️ And I hope the black person you were talking to can eventually wake up from the sunken place 😭😅
and it's so weird to me when nb people try to come up and tell me about my culture. It's also weird to me when they try so hard to dismiss the fact that these are grown ass adults. BTS at this point tend to have a hand in almost everything that they do, so i'd be messy to say the company is the only one to blame.
Exactly. CNS was Jhope’s passion project. He had a say in everything- from the album cover all the way to the jewelry he was wearing. Same with yoongi & agust d2. People are just making excuses because they feel they can
It's just like Oli London like Korean culture n mimics it but koreans find it offensive. It's the same for black ppl, they will be offended. Idk if this example sets right n I hope I don't offend anyone. It's sure that I'm gonna unstan kpop
I've been saying to various Kpop fandoms that their favs using black hairstyles anytime they want to portrait a gangsta or when rapping ain't it. We can talk until our mouths fall off but most of the non black people do not give af. They know damn well what is going on they only act like their oblivious.
I watch your vids concerning this issue and it really educated me on this matter. I am an asian and an a African and as a biracial I AM black before I was a KPOP Stan and even though it hurts me to see my faves do this I needed to know the truth sooner or later. I really wish that KPOP in general will appreciate black culture instead of appropriating it. It would mean a lot to the black community and black KPOP fans💗
As an army Tbh I feel good that people tried to communicate with bighit and trend it on weaverse about it I appreciate their work but can point at them when they do wrong 😊
I think what really helped me understand this is the fact that he put it on just to further the "hip-hop aesthetic". Even though Hobi may not have had ill intentions behind this hairstyle and album cover choice, it still isn't appreciation because he isn't wearing it to respect and appreciate Black culture, he's only doing it to "fit the vibe".
I have to admit that it is not easy to find out that our favourite idols did something wrong since we idolise them so much, but as a white person I am trying to educate myself about this and I wanted to thank you for making this video! It helped me understand more about appopriation and appreciation :) Ofc I don't have a say in this topic at all but it's always good to educte yourself about it.
Actually as a european person this really did change my perspective a lot, i struggled with dutch braids but i realise now it's the context that matters and makes the difference from them being offensive or not, roman ladies may have worn their hair braided like that but in a hiphop mv its not to refer to roman hairstyles its clearly to emulate an aesthetic, when culture is never just an aesthetic. I'm glad i watched this!
I'm not a black person but I feel sorry for black kpop fans since you guys have to go through this every day you guys must be exhausted Why can't companies just educate idols like as a part of training? Would make things so much easier
we have to hold our favorite people accountable for their actions no matter who they are; for our sake and for theirs. like lets normalize simply educating people on offensive things. they need to feel bad to grow better. a lot of people just want to comfort them even tho theyre in the wrong.
As much as i love them, i totally agree with you and im glad you're educating those who don't understand. Im African and i keep getting discriminated for my locs and i hate seeing people with african hairstyles going through the same. Like why does it have to be wrong on a black persons head but okay on everyone elses? Until that changes, as much as id love our culture to be shared, i aint tolerating such unfairness
This completely explains how Hobi's hair is wrong. I had watched 2 of your videos about bts just today and was wondering why his hair was a problem and the whole time, I was thinking that if I want to know then I have to learn about the history and purpose of black people's hair. I learned a little bit that black people's hair back then was braided as like a corn field to plot their escape routes and thats it. Now because of your explanation, I see why his hair is a problem and I hope that BigHit and BTS start to fix their mistakes in the future. I like BTS but now I'm seeing them in a different light. As if I'm only looking at only one detail of a picture, now I have another detail to look at.
the only thing i am gonna say is thank you cause i never understood imitating "black hairstyles" has this kind of deeeeeeeeeeep meaning into it ppl really need to educate themselves and don't talk over the victims when they call out the mistake of an idol .... thank u again
it’s also confusing to see that they have the choice to introduce people to the korean culture but instead they chose to have black hairstyles?? if they use hiphop or rapping in their songs i *assume* that’s fine (im not black), but having dreadlocks or a mimicking version of it is straight up unnecessary.
Now the younger generation gonna think he made up the chicken noodle soup song. I don't care for him. Never have. Never will. All these people do is steal from black people because we're the ones who created all the styles in the first place. And steal our dance moves.
I remember I used to not have a problem with non black people doing these kinds of hairstyles and to a certain degree I still don't, however my opinions changed when I realised that they only wear them for nefarious reasons especially in South Korea where they'll wear them to portray their gangsterism and aggressiveness. When it comes to Kpop and K hip hop, I don't get why they feel the need to wear these hairstyles for their hiphop aesthetic and then turn around and mock the very same hairstyles when they are on black people's hair. They also cannot claim it's appreciation when they have done so many anti black things that they still haven't addressed.
Armys sent me graphic death threats over this issue, I had no choice at the time but to tread carefully. I haven’t rewatched this video in years because half of the stuff I said, I didn’t agree with. I was just trying not to get attacked. Funnily enough, I got attacked anyway. I was naively hopeful 2 years ago when I made this video. I thought I could try reasoning with people who hated me. The internet taught me better. The person that you see in this video is gone. When I revisit this issue, I will not be making it palatable for the anti-blacks who never gaf in the first place.
@@AdeolaAsh death threats for any reason are sickening and I am so sorry you faced that, your video was very balanced but I understand why you no longer want to try and reach out to people who refuse to be educated
@@AdeolaAsh When you say you didn't agree with half the stuff you said, do you mean you didn't agree with him remaking the song and the stuff about it being a cross-cultural celebration? Just curious.
THIS VIDEO WAS REALLY HELPFULL AND INFORMARIVE SO THANK YOU!! As a black person who has been adopted I didn't really understand or realise these kinds of things since they rarely happened to me personally. Im happy to be informed about the significanse of the hair I have had to wear all my life! My hair doesn't grow in the country I live in so I have protected it by wearing brades and in the past, even tho I know no one meant anything bad people always wanted to touch my hair and would point it out. Things like these have never bothered me but now I think I better understand how people like me who have actually faced discrimination due to their hair must have felt. Im happy to be informed and educated and Im going to do further research and talk to people near me!
I really don’t understand how black people can be discriminated on based on their hair. Like I can’t understand nor imagine it because I grew up in a country with very few black people. I am really trying to understand but I don’t know why anyone would make fun of someone’s hair or stop them for getting jobs or anything. So it’s hard for me to fully comprehend the full gravity of why this hair is important. But I am trying.
8:36 Jackson Wang take notes. Last time black people called him out for wearing dreadlocks in that pepsi ad he said that IT WAS RIDICULOUS 🙄🙄 like bro wtf
New army here.. Just saw the video for cns... And wondered... Just wondered.... Im not black myself... But still knew that something wasnr right. This video helped! Thanks
Thank you for making this video. Appropriation is such a big problem in the kpop industry and I wished more people would talk about this. I’m not black myself but i am bipoc. J-hope is my bias and will probably stay my bias for a long time, but I’m not happy with what he did. People need to know that it’s ok to criticize those they love. This video honestly needs more love. Thank you for speaking out ♥️
i never fully understood the cultural appropriation of black hair/hairstyles. i'm glad i watched this and understood a bit (i am korean so i will never be able to fully understand). since i was very little, i always loved and wanted to try black hairstyles. i was 6, still living in korea and i actually attempted to do one of them by myself (the braids), it didn't work but my parents ended up giving me and my sister afro-like perms. people picked on me for having that kind of hair and it hurt. again, i will never understand the black hair and the history behind it, so if it hurt to have people make bad comments on it, it must hurt for you guys. i am also sorry about having and attempting the black hairstyles. i didnt make that decison but i am very sorry. i am also sorry for the black community and myself that i didn't educate myself and know about the cultural appropriation with black hair/hairstyles (and the differences between cultural appropriation and appreciation) *if i worded anything wrong or if anything i said was offensive, i am very sorry. please correct/tell me what i wrote wrong. i dont want to hurt or make anything offensive. i'm still learning*
HOW YOU DARE TO CRITICIZE HOBI IS JUST HAIR nahh jk, I agree with everything u said, I also think the hair was a cultural appropriation and you communicate it so well, thank for educating instead of canceling, thanks for sharing your concern with us, and mostly THANKS FOR CALLING HIM OUT, he's my bias and I know he would never want to disrespect someone, by educating Armys we can educate them
baby chiiiiiiild!!!!!!!! I love you for this sooooo much. yes I love BTS myself but i feel army needs some strong and hard schooling when it comes to what is acceptable especially by black society. People need to understand how we black people fight everyday to hold on to our identity and black hair is part of it. it is an endless battle to be able to show off our natural hair beauty without being discriminated but when other people wear it its no longer seen as nappy or ugly and unneat. talk of double standards. much rather compliment black beauty publicly first then you can wear it, acknowledge all our blackness as a beauty standard, appreciate us nje.
Thank you so much for this video! I have never been able to understand the difference between appreciation and appropriation. Thank you for explaining and i will try and stand up for it in the future :)
Adeola Ash honestly, when i saw the music video, i thought it was a little off that he wore that type of hairstyle but I didn’t hear ANYONE talk about it. Thank you. People need to stop being biased and see these problems clearly
Ik im very late but I completely agree. And I luv the way u shared ur opinion and shared the facts u collected. I hate the double standards, I luv BTS but ppl need to hold them accountable. Hobi may have thought he was showing culture appreciation but he wasn’t. So it’s okay to bring it to his attention. Just like ur example, on how they dragged JB and Jackson for doing the same thing. No one should be dragged to begin with. Teach them and show them it isn’t culture appreciation. I luv Jackson and JB and it saddened me how they were getting so much hate for something almost every idol have done, yet they are them main ones getting hate for it. I understand if they do it more than once and are blatantly culture appropriating but come on. Ppl need to stop being hypocritical. There’s nothing bad with holding ur favs accountable. Also ppl need to understand culture appropriation doesn’t equal racist.
For CNS, when I saw the hairstyle at first I was like "isn't that a black hairstyle" After watching this video I understood that it was in fact a black hairstyle, so thank you for that. I was also wondering why didn't Becky G say anything about the hairstyle. She lives in America and I assume she knows that the western take cultural appropriation seriously (as they should). Did they not have an interrupter. Anyways stan Tomorrow x Together since they haven't done anything problematic (that I know of)
Becky G herself has been called out for appropriating Blackness before. Most nonblack don’t care to call out Black appropriation since many of them like to engage in it themselves. So I’m not surprised she didn’t say anything. Txt has been called out for appropriating Native American culture so be careful of calling groups unproblematic without researching them first 😅
Thank you for making these videos! I appreciate that you take the time to explain all this. Lots of people don’t seem to get it, and I’m glad to see it being called out.
Just came across this video. Thank you for making an honest video. When I first saw CNS mv I was confused why people weren't offended as they are for other groups. I searched a bit and some posts(from people who claimed to be black) said that the hairstyle was ok. But the way you explained the difference cleared up my doubts. Kpop is very much based on the rip-off of different cultures. I was hurt when I first saw the most influential celebrity of Korea use the most sacred hymn from Hinduism for her sultry dance. Sadly they have no regrets and take pride in what they do. :(
I really love your videos. You have educated more about these issues and you are absolutely right. And the worst thing is, that cultural appropriation isn’t just in Kpop, it’s in the whole music industry which is really saddening
Thank you!People use this term so much that it' s really hard to understand what it means exactly!Thank you for this amazing video and I hope that you aren' t really offended by the MV 💜 I don' t the people for Namjoon' s hair though. I thought it was just curlyXD(about Mic Drop)
Thank u for this video! I remember seeing the cns selfies and it didn’t sit right with me but I couldn’t really pin point why. This video cleared up why it was wrong so thank u for that. And I remember seeing his jhope’s selfies from the mic drop performances and not liking those either. But it feels like these instances are not talked about because everyone wants to focus on how “perfect” BTS is.
thank you for this. when i saw the mv for cns something didn't sit right with me about the hairstyle but i said nothing bc i was afraid and bc i hadn't seen black people say anything about it so i assumed nothing was wrong about it and that i was trying to have this like savior complex (as im latina not black) but know i know that they did. just army's silenced them. so thank you for this and for the information in the beginning of the vid regarding black hairstyles.
Thank you for this ,I didn´t think how disrespectful using that hairstyle could be,and you are right even if they are our faves we shouldn´t cover those mistakes :(, j-hope is my bias but i hope he learns what he did was not good to do :(.
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm not black and at first I was confused about why this was wrong but you educated me! I feel like there are still a lot of people 'defending' their idols for matters like this without knowing why it's wrong. I hope this video can reach out to them and educate people!!💖💖
As a Korean person living in America trying to figure out why it was wrong for them to wear those hairstyles. And differentiating appreciation and appropriating. I definitely understand now why it is wrong! Rather than getting on to people for doing so we need to educate why. Thank you for this educational video!
Also it made it so much I guess easier to understand why this is a problem. I decided to think back about how people made funny of eyes because they were thin but now people are getting surgery to Asian eyes. It made me upset. Now I know this is nothing compared to the history of the hairstyles black people have. With their hairstyles to even dating back to slavery.
Thanks for making this video. As a white person I never completely understood this topic. I had no idea people got fired because of their hair style. And in 2020? Thats crazy. Thanks for taking the time to educate.
I have to say a big thanks for this video. When I first saw these hairstyles and stuff and never thought much about it. But now that I see this I see that these idols were in the wrong. I'm very young so I did not see the problem until I went deeper into the subject. Thank you so much for helping me to see the value of black culture and why these idols need to stop and educate thselves on the black community and how they use it. Whether appreciation or appropriation
i wonder if anyone else working on the mv said anything, and what was said to them in response? i actually didn't know it was a remix/cover type thing in the first place, so his hair felt extra out of place for me. Thank you for explaining more in dept. it's frustrating that this was happening even in 2019, i thought we had grown out of that and learned after the early eras, and especially since they have more of a say with their looks now.
wow SIENDO LO MAS SINCERA POSIBLE, Y COMO ARMY, QUIERO DECIR QUE.... concuerdo con un comentario que decia: "Un verdadero fanático responsabiliza a sus favoritos, no los defiende." si es que ellos, o algún otro artista llega a faltar el respeto (no intencional) de alguna manera hacia alguna cultura, lo único correcto es que pidan disculpas por ello. somos humanos y cometemos errores, tarde o temprano esas acciones que en su momento no pensamos que serian malas, tarde o temprano nos alcanzan. no se si es correcto decir esto pero, gracias por el video.
thank you for making this informative video, I really feel like I understand the situation better! I hope in the future that any hairstyle is accepted by everyone :)
I'm honestly a bit frustrated atm, cuz my parents see no problem with BTS (or anyone for that matter) wearing gel locks, dreads, braids etc and they say that prohibiting non-Black artists from wearing traditionally Black hairstyles, doesn't solve the root of the problem of racism and discrimination against Black ppl but can actually worsen it's consequences by focusing ppl's energy and efforts on hairstyles instead of eg fighting police brutality. Essentially they mean that if Black ppl weren't discriminated against (eg for their Hairstyles) and if they were given credit for their culture (which would automatically result from equality) then non-black ppl wearing those Hairstyles wouldn't be a problem. So what we should solve, is the discrimination, and not the Hairstyles u know? And I sorta see their point, but also I agree with what u said in this video and I'm not sure it's as simple as my parents would like it to be. And regardless, Idols wearing eg braids is obv still offensive to a lot of ppl, soo I wanted to ask for your opinion As a sidenote I really enjoy ur videos so far, they're all incredibly well researched and the editing is amazing honestly, like thx soo much for all the time and effort u put into this...
Someone put it in this perspective somewhere on the internet and it was really impactful. OP had something along the lines of - 'You can't tell me to calm down or call it appreciation when you can decide whenever you want or don't want to have cornrows or loccs, when we don't have that choice and are born with hair that is discriminated against but when you guys wear it, it's "cool" or "artistic".'
Ok I came here from a comment section searching for culture vulture........ And thanks for the education. As an Army I'll spread this education to everywhere within my reach. Thanks and sorry I wasn't here sooner.
i’m not black, but i AM latino. i can understand somewhat how you’re feeling.. it sucks when kpop stans fail to see how their favorites are appropriating our cultures!! it’s honestly disturbing. i really think BTS and other kpop groups know better, but they refuse to act on it or even apologize
and for the last sentence let me explain: after years and thousands of messages, emails, calls, DMs etc towards the members in various languages you really think none have seen it? “oh well bighit forces it onto them”… u think their biggest boygroup has no say in lyrics, styling, videos released etc?
Please watch the entire video including reading the photos of the black hair stories before you comment. The amount of ignorance I saw in response to my last reaction and on Army twitter prompted me to make this video. I hope it can enlighten at least one person if nothing else. Thank you.
People mixing up Assimilation when blk people have to adjust their hairstyles to make other people comfortable. None of them know that our hair was shaved without our permission, we had to be forced to wear scarfs so that people couldn't be mesmerized by Afro hair.
This is the type of army we all need! As much as we praise them for all their hardworks and achievements, when things go wrong, WE NEED TO POINT THEM OUT. Thank you for this enlightening video. I hope people educate themselves on this matter because ignorance is worse than idiocy.
Thank you for the love 🥺♥️ and absolutely!! People can’t grow if they don’t know what they’ve done wrong!! Ignorance is worse than idiocy indeed 👏🏾
Same
the issue is when things that are typically from black culture are done by non - black people it is seen as cool but when we do it it gets a negative response
Exactly. The double standard is so wrong and so damaging in so many ways 😪
You know what. Thank u for that. I knew something didn't sit right with me about his hair but now I know. Thanks 💗👏🏽
Glad to help 🥺💓💓
For everyone saying that appropriation is appreciation, you may think that, cool, but we do not feel appreciated.
Period
yeah we don’t. it is hard being a black k-pop fan seeing your culture being used when they don’t even like us blacks. they say we are quick to pull the race card and overreact but they don’t understand. it’s one of the only things of our culture that we know about(music and style). we were brought to America as slaves and it’s hard to trace back our roots. all we have left and know about it our music and style like how we dress and wear our hair. slowly, different races are taking it from us, appropriating it, and they call it appreciation and ignorance and that they don’t what they are doing. it hurts us to see that and they don’t understand that it’s all we have. they’re taking everything from us and making it “cool and trendy” but it’s not just that.
honestly
I don't know why some armys feel so bad about calling out BTS when they do something problematic (i am also army). BTS say they want to hear our stories, they wanna hear our voices so if we speak up about it enough for them to see it, they will (or better) listen. People say things like "well they are Korean and don't know anything" but if so, then that is the exact reason we should educate them. Calling them out doesn't hurt anyone, it will help BTS grow and learn as people and artists. BTS has also helped millions of people grow and learn. Army, please see them as human too, no one is perfect.
Exactly! We all know that they’re all good people. Just uneducated. As someone who has lived in Korea you can see that they aren’t really educated in these things especially since it’s a very traditional country. However if you are going to be a world wide star you have to be considerate to the world wide fans. Get information ask the fans on what to know and such things. Education and respect is needed for these things.
periodt
I noticed that it was the rap line that are the only ones that have cultural appropriate hairstyles to give off that hip hop or what they say “reggae” hairstyle type
Same
5:19 OMG THAT IS TOO TRUE😮😮. I never noticed that whenever they did black hair styles they associated it with their hiphop songs and honestly that IS mimicking black hiphop culture. I HATE it when I see KHipHop artists do braids, dreads or any black hairstyles because they think its hiphop. You don't have to have black hairstyles or black anything to do hiphop.
same omg , they literally use our culture so much but have so much resistance against us
I always hate how black people get punished for wearing their own hairstyles because they look "unproffessional" its degrading and offensive. I never understood how people deemed it unacceptable for black people to wear their natural hair, its beautiful and should be respected. Discrimination needs to be stopped.
Also, there needs to be education about this in the kpop industry so they dont keep repeating these mistakes.
I completely understand you and cultural appropriation has become such a common thing that's its frustrating. I am an Indian and many times kpop idols have disrespected my culture as well.
Eg Lee Hyori dancing to Gayatri Mantra( our sacred prayer) , blackpink mocking our dance "Bharatnatyam" and recently the new blackpink song HYLT disrespecting my God and religion. I want all the agencies and the idols to be careful with their work and also the fans should stop defending them.
100%! It hurts me that fans aren’t willing to hold idols accountable for these things so they keep happening. It’s so sad and extremely disheartening
@@AdeolaAsh exactly kpop is heading towards abnormality. I am losing interest day by day.
we r in this together !🙏🏾
BP has many cultural appropriation but they are the most famous GG right now. What this can tell about our society?
@@bewhoiam7130 that people are either uneducated or they just don't care about their as well as others' culture anymore and would love to support anything and anyone to seem "cool"?
This needs way more attention and views, this was really well put together and got the point across!!
Thanks 💗
This is the most valid, necessary and concise cultural appropriation video I see on the internet. It is not about the hairstyle it self on its own but it's the fact that there is a negative connotation some people present it with (not in this case, but more in general),and more importantly the responses that are sometimes literally life threatening to us black people face wearing our own hair from our own culture. Having it glamourized like this while are people losing jobs, getting kick outta school and things like that who are black is what makes it disrespectful. THAT IS WHAT ARMY AND THE REST OF THE WORLD NEED TO UNDERSTAND. Eathing food and listening to music is not appropriation.
Agreed! Also thanks so much, I’m really glad you liked the video ♥️
Thank you for making this video, I just had a discussion with a person (who is black) that didn’t understand why it makes black people uncomfortable when kpop idols (or non black people in general) wear our hairstyles.
Girlllll those ones are the worst because they’ll have you thinking you’re the crazy one. I get that some black people have managed to be sheltered from discrimination depending on their living situations, but the rest of the world isn’t like that. People need to wake up. I’m happy you liked the video 🥺♥️ And I hope the black person you were talking to can eventually wake up from the sunken place 😭😅
Adeola Ash Girl I hope they wake up too😭
and it's so weird to me when nb people try to come up and tell me about my culture. It's also weird to me when they try so hard to dismiss the fact that these are grown ass adults. BTS at this point tend to have a hand in almost everything that they do, so i'd be messy to say the company is the only one to blame.
Exactly. CNS was Jhope’s passion project. He had a say in everything- from the album cover all the way to the jewelry he was wearing. Same with yoongi & agust d2. People are just making excuses because they feel they can
7:20 exactly. I never understood why a non black person would go telling another non black person about appropriation of black culture
It's just like Oli London like Korean culture n mimics it but koreans find it offensive. It's the same for black ppl, they will be offended.
Idk if this example sets right n I hope I don't offend anyone. It's sure that I'm gonna unstan kpop
I've been saying to various Kpop fandoms that their favs using black hairstyles anytime they want to portrait a gangsta or when rapping ain't it. We can talk until our mouths fall off but most of the non black people do not give af. They know damn well what is going on they only act like their oblivious.
Exactly
I watch your vids concerning this issue and it really educated me on this matter. I am an asian and an a African and as a biracial I AM black before I was a KPOP Stan and even though it hurts me to see my faves do this I needed to know the truth sooner or later. I really wish that KPOP in general will appreciate black culture instead of appropriating it. It would mean a lot to the black community and black KPOP fans💗
like how can some people can't hold their faves accountable????? yall had one job.
I'm not black, so thank you very much for this video because you're educating me more!
As an army Tbh I feel good that people tried to communicate with bighit and trend it on weaverse about it I appreciate their work but can point at them when they do wrong 😊
I think what really helped me understand this is the fact that he put it on just to further the "hip-hop aesthetic". Even though Hobi may not have had ill intentions behind this hairstyle and album cover choice, it still isn't appreciation because he isn't wearing it to respect and appreciate Black culture, he's only doing it to "fit the vibe".
I have to admit that it is not easy to find out that our favourite idols did something wrong since we idolise them so much, but as a white person I am trying to educate myself about this and I wanted to thank you for making this video! It helped me understand more about appopriation and appreciation :) Ofc I don't have a say in this topic at all but it's always good to educte yourself about it.
Actually as a european person this really did change my perspective a lot, i struggled with dutch braids but i realise now it's the context that matters and makes the difference from them being offensive or not, roman ladies may have worn their hair braided like that but in a hiphop mv its not to refer to roman hairstyles its clearly to emulate an aesthetic, when culture is never just an aesthetic. I'm glad i watched this!
I'm not a black person but I feel sorry for black kpop fans since you guys have to go through this every day you guys must be exhausted
Why can't companies just educate idols like as a part of training? Would make things so much easier
Porque todos são racistas.
I changed my mind. BTS do have a bad past. Hope the can continue to improve .
Thank you for making this video, I learned so many things, and now I understand about this topic :)
Glad it helped!
i hate that their stans fail to hold these grown men accountable. emphasis on grown
we have to hold our favorite people accountable for their actions no matter who they are; for our sake and for theirs. like lets normalize simply educating people on offensive things. they need to feel bad to grow better. a lot of people just want to comfort them even tho theyre in the wrong.
As much as i love them, i totally agree with you and im glad you're educating those who don't understand. Im African and i keep getting discriminated for my locs and i hate seeing people with african hairstyles going through the same. Like why does it have to be wrong on a black persons head but okay on everyone elses? Until that changes, as much as id love our culture to be shared, i aint tolerating such unfairness
This completely explains how Hobi's hair is wrong. I had watched 2 of your videos about bts just today and was wondering why his hair was a problem and the whole time, I was thinking that if I want to know then I have to learn about the history and purpose of black people's hair. I learned a little bit that black people's hair back then was braided as like a corn field to plot their escape routes and thats it. Now because of your explanation, I see why his hair is a problem and I hope that BigHit and BTS start to fix their mistakes in the future. I like BTS but now I'm seeing them in a different light. As if I'm only looking at only one detail of a picture, now I have another detail to look at.
the only thing i am gonna say is thank you cause i never understood imitating "black hairstyles" has this kind of deeeeeeeeeeep meaning into it ppl really need to educate themselves and don't talk over the victims when they call out the mistake of an idol .... thank u again
it’s also confusing to see that they have the choice to introduce people to the korean culture but instead they chose to have black hairstyles?? if they use hiphop or rapping in their songs i *assume* that’s fine (im not black), but having dreadlocks or a mimicking version of it is straight up unnecessary.
Now the younger generation gonna think he made up the chicken noodle soup song. I don't care for him. Never have. Never will. All these people do is steal from black people because we're the ones who created all the styles in the first place. And steal our dance moves.
SO HAPPY somebody finally said this.
I remember I used to not have a problem with non black people doing these kinds of hairstyles and to a certain degree I still don't, however my opinions changed when I realised that they only wear them for nefarious reasons especially in South Korea where they'll wear them to portray their gangsterism and aggressiveness. When it comes to Kpop and K hip hop, I don't get why they feel the need to wear these hairstyles for their hiphop aesthetic and then turn around and mock the very same hairstyles when they are on black people's hair. They also cannot claim it's appreciation when they have done so many anti black things that they still haven't addressed.
I knew the hairstyle Jhope was wearing was wrong when I saw it, but rarely saw comments about it. Thanks for this video!
ilysm ppl like u are exactly what we need these days!!
I love how you congratulated him for his solo, then later talked about how he did CA which was from the same song.
Armys sent me graphic death threats over this issue, I had no choice at the time but to tread carefully. I haven’t rewatched this video in years because half of the stuff I said, I didn’t agree with. I was just trying not to get attacked. Funnily enough, I got attacked anyway. I was naively hopeful 2 years ago when I made this video. I thought I could try reasoning with people who hated me. The internet taught me better. The person that you see in this video is gone. When I revisit this issue, I will not be making it palatable for the anti-blacks who never gaf in the first place.
@@AdeolaAsh death threats for any reason are sickening and I am so sorry you faced that, your video was very balanced but I understand why you no longer want to try and reach out to people who refuse to be educated
@@AdeolaAsh When you say you didn't agree with half the stuff you said, do you mean you didn't agree with him remaking the song and the stuff about it being a cross-cultural celebration? Just curious.
Thank you as a non-black army I tried to find information about this issue and you helped me to understand
THIS VIDEO WAS REALLY HELPFULL AND INFORMARIVE SO THANK YOU!! As a black person who has been adopted I didn't really understand or realise these kinds of things since they rarely happened to me personally. Im happy to be informed about the significanse of the hair I have had to wear all my life! My hair doesn't grow in the country I live in so I have protected it by wearing brades and in the past, even tho I know no one meant anything bad people always wanted to touch my hair and would point it out. Things like these have never bothered me but now I think I better understand how people like me who have actually faced discrimination due to their hair must have felt. Im happy to be informed and educated and Im going to do further research and talk to people near me!
I really don’t understand how black people can be discriminated on based on their hair. Like I can’t understand nor imagine it because I grew up in a country with very few black people. I am really trying to understand but I don’t know why anyone would make fun of someone’s hair or stop them for getting jobs or anything. So it’s hard for me to fully comprehend the full gravity of why this hair is important. But I am trying.
8:36 Jackson Wang take notes. Last time black people called him out for wearing dreadlocks in that pepsi ad he said that IT WAS RIDICULOUS 🙄🙄 like bro wtf
New army here.. Just saw the video for cns... And wondered... Just wondered.... Im not black myself... But still knew that something wasnr right. This video helped! Thanks
Thank you for making this video. Appropriation is such a big problem in the kpop industry and I wished more people would talk about this. I’m not black myself but i am bipoc. J-hope is my bias and will probably stay my bias for a long time, but I’m not happy with what he did. People need to know that it’s ok to criticize those they love. This video honestly needs more love. Thank you for speaking out ♥️
I'm an ARMY but when my boys do smt wrong I'MA GONNA WHOOP SOME ASS mind you I'm black too
Excellent video! Couldn't have made any of these points better myself!
i never fully understood the cultural appropriation of black hair/hairstyles. i'm glad i watched this and understood a bit (i am korean so i will never be able to fully understand).
since i was very little, i always loved and wanted to try black hairstyles. i was 6, still living in korea and i actually attempted to do one of them by myself (the braids), it didn't work but my parents ended up giving me and my sister afro-like perms. people picked on me for having that kind of hair and it hurt. again, i will never understand the black hair and the history behind it, so if it hurt to have people make bad comments on it, it must hurt for you guys. i am also sorry about having and attempting the black hairstyles. i didnt make that decison but i am very sorry. i am also sorry for the black community and myself that i didn't educate myself and know about the cultural appropriation with black hair/hairstyles (and the differences between cultural appropriation and appreciation)
*if i worded anything wrong or if anything i said was offensive, i am very sorry. please correct/tell me what i wrote wrong. i dont want to hurt or make anything offensive. i'm still learning*
HOW YOU DARE TO CRITICIZE HOBI IS JUST HAIR
nahh jk, I agree with everything u said, I also think the hair was a cultural appropriation and you communicate it so well, thank for educating instead of canceling, thanks for sharing your concern with us, and mostly THANKS FOR CALLING HIM OUT, he's my bias and I know he would never want to disrespect someone, by educating Armys we can educate them
Thank you so much, I never really understood this matter before
thank you so much for this video, i really appreciate it
Glad you liked it ☺️💓💓
baby chiiiiiiild!!!!!!!! I love you for this sooooo much. yes I love BTS myself but i feel army needs some strong and hard schooling when it comes to what is acceptable especially by black society. People need to understand how we black people fight everyday to hold on to our identity and black hair is part of it. it is an endless battle to be able to show off our natural hair beauty without being discriminated but when other people wear it its no longer seen as nappy or ugly and unneat. talk of double standards. much rather compliment black beauty publicly first then you can wear it, acknowledge all our blackness as a beauty standard, appreciate us nje.
Thank you so much for this video! I have never been able to understand the difference between appreciation and appropriation. Thank you for explaining and i will try and stand up for it in the future :)
I’m glad I could help 🥺 and thank you so much, allies are much needed and appreciated 💜
Adeola Ash honestly, when i saw the music video, i thought it was a little off that he wore that type of hairstyle but I didn’t hear ANYONE talk about it. Thank you. People need to stop being biased and see these problems clearly
This is so so well explained! Thank you for your time, I need to share it!
Thanks for linking this video, I learned a lot!
your videos helped me to get a new perspective, thank you very much
Ik im very late but I completely agree. And I luv the way u shared ur opinion and shared the facts u collected. I hate the double standards, I luv BTS but ppl need to hold them accountable. Hobi may have thought he was showing culture appreciation but he wasn’t. So it’s okay to bring it to his attention. Just like ur example, on how they dragged JB and Jackson for doing the same thing. No one should be dragged to begin with. Teach them and show them it isn’t culture appreciation. I luv Jackson and JB and it saddened me how they were getting so much hate for something almost every idol have done, yet they are them main ones getting hate for it. I understand if they do it more than once and are blatantly culture appropriating but come on. Ppl need to stop being hypocritical. There’s nothing bad with holding ur favs accountable. Also ppl need to understand culture appropriation doesn’t equal racist.
For CNS, when I saw the hairstyle at first I was like "isn't that a black hairstyle" After watching this video I understood that it was in fact a black hairstyle, so thank you for that. I was also wondering why didn't Becky G say anything about the hairstyle. She lives in America and I assume she knows that the western take cultural appropriation seriously (as they should). Did they not have an interrupter. Anyways stan Tomorrow x Together since they haven't done anything problematic (that I know of)
Becky G herself has been called out for appropriating Blackness before. Most nonblack don’t care to call out Black appropriation since many of them like to engage in it themselves. So I’m not surprised she didn’t say anything. Txt has been called out for appropriating Native American culture so be careful of calling groups unproblematic without researching them first 😅
thank you i feel like i’m being seen . i thought i was the only one that feel bad about his hair but many people told me i was just being judgy 💘
Thank you for making these videos! I appreciate that you take the time to explain all this. Lots of people don’t seem to get it, and I’m glad to see it being called out.
I love your videos. You always do a great job of explaining what you are talking about.
Just came across this video. Thank you for making an honest video. When I first saw CNS mv I was confused why people weren't offended as they are for other groups. I searched a bit and some posts(from people who claimed to be black) said that the hairstyle was ok. But the way you explained the difference cleared up my doubts. Kpop is very much based on the rip-off of different cultures.
I was hurt when I first saw the most influential celebrity of Korea use the most sacred hymn from Hinduism for her sultry dance. Sadly they have no regrets and take pride in what they do. :(
I really love your videos. You have educated more about these issues and you are absolutely right. And the worst thing is, that cultural appropriation isn’t just in Kpop, it’s in the whole music industry which is really saddening
Perfect breakdown🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Thank you for explaining so patiently and completely. Love your content!
Thank you!People use this term so much that it' s really hard to understand what it means exactly!Thank you for this amazing video and I hope that you aren' t really offended by the MV 💜
I don' t the people for Namjoon' s hair though. I thought it was just curlyXD(about Mic Drop)
Thank u for this video! I remember seeing the cns selfies and it didn’t sit right with me but I couldn’t really pin point why. This video cleared up why it was wrong so thank u for that. And I remember seeing his jhope’s selfies from the mic drop performances and not liking those either. But it feels like these instances are not talked about because everyone wants to focus on how “perfect” BTS is.
thank you for this. when i saw the mv for cns something didn't sit right with me about the hairstyle but i said nothing bc i was afraid and bc i hadn't seen black people say anything about it so i assumed nothing was wrong about it and that i was trying to have this like savior complex (as im latina not black) but know i know that they did. just army's silenced them. so thank you for this and for the information in the beginning of the vid regarding black hairstyles.
Thank you for this ,I didn´t think how disrespectful using that hairstyle could be,and you are right even if they are our faves we shouldn´t cover those mistakes :(, j-hope is my bias but i hope he learns what he did was not good to do :(.
Thank you for educating me !
Thank you so much for making this video! I'm not black and at first I was confused about why this was wrong but you educated me! I feel like there are still a lot of people 'defending' their idols for matters like this without knowing why it's wrong. I hope this video can reach out to them and educate people!!💖💖
Also speaking on the fact he had a white back up dancer with locs as well
we have to hold our idols accountable
As a Korean person living in America trying to figure out why it was wrong for them to wear those hairstyles. And differentiating appreciation and appropriating. I definitely understand now why it is wrong! Rather than getting on to people for doing so we need to educate why. Thank you for this educational video!
Also it made it so much I guess easier to understand why this is a problem. I decided to think back about how people made funny of eyes because they were thin but now people are getting surgery to Asian eyes. It made me upset. Now I know this is nothing compared to the history of the hairstyles black people have. With their hairstyles to even dating back to slavery.
Thanks for making this video. As a white person I never completely understood this topic. I had no idea people got fired because of their hair style. And in 2020? Thats crazy. Thanks for taking the time to educate.
I have to say a big thanks for this video. When I first saw these hairstyles and stuff and never thought much about it. But now that I see this I see that these idols were in the wrong. I'm very young so I did not see the problem until I went deeper into the subject. Thank you so much for helping me to see the value of black culture and why these idols need to stop and educate thselves on the black community and how they use it. Whether appreciation or appropriation
i wonder if anyone else working on the mv said anything, and what was said to them in response?
i actually didn't know it was a remix/cover type thing in the first place, so his hair felt extra out of place for me. Thank you for explaining more in dept. it's frustrating that this was happening even in 2019, i thought we had grown out of that and learned after the early eras, and especially since they have more of a say with their looks now.
Thank you for talking about this. I thought I was the only one who felt uncomfortable.
wow
SIENDO LO MAS SINCERA POSIBLE, Y COMO ARMY, QUIERO DECIR QUE....
concuerdo con un comentario que decia:
"Un verdadero fanático responsabiliza a sus favoritos, no los defiende."
si es que ellos, o algún otro artista llega a faltar el respeto (no intencional) de alguna manera hacia alguna cultura, lo único correcto es que pidan disculpas por ello.
somos humanos y cometemos errores, tarde o temprano esas acciones que en su momento no pensamos que serian malas, tarde o temprano nos alcanzan.
no se si es correcto decir esto pero, gracias por el video.
I have been learning a lot about cultural appropiation and i really think everyone should know about it, it should be teached in schools
thank you for making this informative video, I really feel like I understand the situation better! I hope in the future that any hairstyle is accepted by everyone :)
thank you for always educating me,I love your videos
I'm honestly a bit frustrated atm, cuz my parents see no problem with BTS (or anyone for that matter) wearing gel locks, dreads, braids etc and they say that prohibiting non-Black artists from wearing traditionally Black hairstyles, doesn't solve the root of the problem of racism and discrimination against Black ppl but can actually worsen it's consequences by focusing ppl's energy and efforts on hairstyles instead of eg fighting police brutality. Essentially they mean that if Black ppl weren't discriminated against (eg for their Hairstyles) and if they were given credit for their culture (which would automatically result from equality) then non-black ppl wearing those Hairstyles wouldn't be a problem. So what we should solve, is the discrimination, and not the Hairstyles u know? And I sorta see their point, but also I agree with what u said in this video and I'm not sure it's as simple as my parents would like it to be. And regardless, Idols wearing eg braids is obv still offensive to a lot of ppl, soo I wanted to ask for your opinion
As a sidenote I really enjoy ur videos so far, they're all incredibly well researched and the editing is amazing honestly, like thx soo much for all the time and effort u put into this...
Thank you so much for this. So well done and said.
I'm African and jhope did bad this is an African hairstyle
omg you NEED to see thedrama 'backstreet rooke'
i just want to say that I appreciate you for making these types of video knowing that you are gonna get hated by the toxic side of the fandom
Someone put it in this perspective somewhere on the internet and it was really impactful. OP had something along the lines of - 'You can't tell me to calm down or call it appreciation when you can decide whenever you want or don't want to have cornrows or loccs, when we don't have that choice and are born with hair that is discriminated against but when you guys wear it, it's "cool" or "artistic".'
Ok I came here from a comment section searching for culture vulture........ And thanks for the education. As an Army I'll spread this education to everywhere within my reach. Thanks and sorry I wasn't here sooner.
👏👏👏 Very good video.
Your last message is 👌
PREACH!!! 💯
Adeola you are perfection
real armies will hold Hoseok accountable
i’m not black, but i AM latino. i can understand somewhat how you’re feeling.. it sucks when kpop stans fail to see how their favorites are appropriating our cultures!! it’s honestly disturbing. i really think BTS and other kpop groups know better, but they refuse to act on it or even apologize
its not “just culture” and we r not “overreacting” those people are just insensitive and white
and for the last sentence let me explain: after years and thousands of messages, emails, calls, DMs etc towards the members in various languages you really think none have seen it? “oh well bighit forces it onto them”… u think their biggest boygroup has no say in lyrics, styling, videos released etc?
That last part though about got7 being dragged and yet are okay with bts doing the same
off topic but you are so georgeous
Great video
I was always confused about appreciation and appropriation.U just made it lot more clear!!
if you are really a fan of an artist you have to point out to him where he went wrong so he can fix it and learn
i hate this world. i shouldve been born a window or something because why
i learn so much from this video. thank you so much.
I'm asian and been trying to educate myself with these matters. I just want to say thank you because I get to understand it because of your videos.