Whenever people ask me I always like to say we have made it even safer. I mean, can you imagine checking your entire car everytime you went driving? Or briefing each trip with every other driver on the road beforehand?
When I started skydiving in 1997, I faced the question every skydiver gets asked..., “why jump out of a perfectly good airplane”? At the time, the plane we had was sketchy, the most dangerous part of the skydive was the plane ride up, it only made sense to jump out of it! 😆
I did my first tandem about a month ago. The plane we took up looked like a huge pos! Even the guy I jumped with said "I'm jumping outta this plane with or without you because I don't want to be in this turd for the landing" haha. Had I been not jumping out I don't think I would've got it that plane. And I'm sure it was a perfectly good aircraft and he was just kidding me but yeah that plane looked pretty rough.
Thanks! Actually you’d have to drive a motorcycle 50 miles to be exposed to 8 micromort of risk. So if the dropzone is 51 miles away and you ride...it’s more dangerous!
Yeah me too, I know the tandem fatality rate is a lot better than fun jumpers and probably for that reason. I truly believe it’s a dangerous sport that can be done safely, just depends on your gear checks and guidelines for jumping
The people who criticize you for living an incredible life by skydiving and such are the same miserable pieces of $hits who live a 9-5 job they hate and spend their money on drugs, gambling and other useless crap and never get out of their comfort zone to know what living the dream is. I love skydiving. I just did my first tandem. I'm signing up for my AFF Now 😉
I just found your channel. Watched a few vids and came across this. Thank you for taking the time to explain how safe it actually is. As someone recently married and thinking about children... I’ve wanted to go for the AFF... but also found myself second guessing it. The Fear vid and This one... totally explained what I needed to know!
I battle with severe depression. And, I’ve considered taking up skydiving since it has been a dream of mine for so long and to lift my spirit for life. My concern is my struggle and ability to make quick decision in a dangerous situation. That’s what keeps me from going for it. What are your thoughts on that?
Been there man. I’ve been through two hard wars overseas and I got into skydiving when I went through a tough divorce. It broke the depression cycle for me and woke me up to the fact that I really really love my life. I can’t give you medical advice but I’ll tell you what my experience has been. I need a good jump every few weeks to relieve the stress. That fear sharpens me. Even if it’s not as intense as it once was, the recognition of my mortality still has power. Much love and luck to you 🤙🏻
I just made a tandem last month in Florida. I liked it so much I did another. I just turned 62. It hits you in the following weeks. You start thinking about it and your body becomes energized and it puts a spring in your step. Just try 1 tandem. You will see.
@@0doubledseven589 facts, same happened to me, It made me realize my life aint so bad and gave me energy to keep pushing, Now i'm even thinking about getting my ffa and eventually class A lmao
If anything I say here comes off mean or insensitive, it's not meant to be, get over it. Listen, if you seriously have wanted to go skydiving, you need to go. Hopefully you didn't comment for attention because this guy gave you every reason to go that you can get, and over 2 years later I see no reply saying you went. Thank you for your service Perndog, and I'm sorry you have had to go through everything you have, that sucks, man. Not seeing a reply leads me to believe you're just here commenting for attention, which, as someone who has a valid reason to be depressed is pissing me off. Hopefully you went and realized it's the greatest thing ever. The people become your family, your biggest supporters and life becomes everything you've dreamt about. I guess I don't understand, you said something about your brain being broken, but I never experienced anything like that nor do I know anyone who has either. Are you " mentally challenged"? What gives, sounds to me like you make excuses so you can play this card for attention. Do you drive a car? Do you play Xbox? Or PlayStation? If you drive a car you can jump out of an airplane.
I'm going on my first jump ever on this Sunday on the third on my 21st birthday in Yosemite and I'm really nervous but honestly this video made my nerves go down a lot and helped immensely so thanks a lot and wish me luck!!
Love the video Bro! I actually pulled those USPA stats up on my parents when i was getting ready for my license cause we had a severe injury on one of my tandem instructors and death of his tandem student. They were skeptical but now theyre a lot more like ohhh alright since its been a few years and im at 50 jumps. Before you even said it in the second part I was going to comment a lot of it is about discretion but yeah you hit the nail on the head!
Tandem accidents are even more rare. But it’s all about hedging your risk. Zoo dives will happen but it’s important to me to stay safe as I get into more dangerous styles of jumps. Blue skies man 🤙🏻
I am doing a Tandem Parachute Jump for Break on September 8th & we are going to be going 13,000ft. This is my 3rd jump but my first time at 13,000ft. I don't know how I'm going to do. Yet. But I am hoping that I don't close my eyes,& hold my breath, like I did on the first Tandom Parachute Jump. Wish me luck.
Aerodyne Triathlon 175. I had switched to a Sabre 2 150 (its Amber’s) but needed a new pilot chute so I’ve got to get that installed before jumping it again. The two canopies are waaaay different. 7 cell rectangle is really forgiving. The 9 cell semi-elliptical is quite more responsive. And fun.
I plan on getting my class A license soon. Of course I worry about something going wrong but when I read most deaths are from experienced jumpers pushing the limits or just getting complacent.
@@BWS952 I got 10 jumps in 3 days. Unfortunately I must have issues with my sinuses or ears. After the first day my ears wouldn't unpop. After the 2nd day it got worse. My ears and head felt like they were going to exploded and I had a ringing sound that wouldn't go away. The 3rd day I finally brought it up to the instructors. They recommend I do what I felt was best. I traveled to different state to get my license in 1 week so I didn't want to quit. That 3rd day I jumped twice and on that last jump I had a bloody nose during the jump so I decided it's probably best to quit. It sucked to give up but at that point I was really concerned about doing permanent damage. I had issues for the next 2 months! Thankfully I don't have any problems anymore. Besides all that lol it was an amazing experience. Paramotoring here I come haha and I'll probably try another tandem and see how it goes.
@@lobbyrobby I respect and admire your tenacity to keep going. Why did you go to a different DZ? I'm glad you recovered. Do you know what was causing the medical issues?
It’s going to be interesting as we both jump...people have told me they’ll watch the kid so we can jump together occasionally. Hopefully it inspires him to live a life not defined by fear like so many others unfortunately do!
No, BASE jumping is significantly more dangerous, and enough differences exist in freefall speeds and gear that it could be considered an entire different sport. Something like 1 in 2,300 BASE jumps are fatal. Wingsuit proximity flying is even more dangerous.
The problem with quoting the probability of dying on a single jump is that a lot of people who call them skydivers do more than one jump. And then the probability changes. Consider the probability of getting one heads is 1/2. But that's only if you throw the coin once. If you throw the coin twice the probability is 3/4. And that assumes the coin has no memory and each throw is 50/50. Why? because there are four things that can happen it can lands HH, TT,HT and TH. All of these four outcomes are equally likely , and 3 out of 4 will give you at leats one heads. So the probability of something happening on multiple occasions is very different to just once. So yes the chance of dying on any one skydive is quite low. But consider this, the most number of jumps I have done in a day is 11. I know some people that have done more than 30 in a day. i never met a marathon runner that did 11 marathons in one day. And so the comparison is off base. This is the reason skydiving as a sport is much ore dangerous than marathon running, even if an individual jump is not.
@@PernDog Well lets put in the context of a war movie then. Im thinking "The Deer Hunter" . If you haven't seen it, American soldiers are forced to play Russian roulette. Now suppose you put one bullet in a chamber of 6. If you do this once, what do you think of statement (A)?: (A) you are far more likely not be killed than to be killed. You have a 5/6 chance of survival. I think statement A is true and Im sure you will agree. But if you play the game many times each day, do you think that statement A is still true? Of course it isn't, it wont take long for the law of large numbers to make you unlikely event into a likely one. Maths is maths whether you are a marine or not and skydiving is a dangerous sport and we will lose less friends if we recognise that. Think of it this way if the odds of dying on a jump are 100,000 to one, then one in every hundred jumpers that does a thousand jumps will die jumping. If The odds of dying in a marathon are the same then which is the more dangerous sport ? You might be tempted to say the same but of course I come back to my point , a skydiver is more likely to make a thousand jumps than a marathon runner is to do a thousand marathons.
@@PhilHalper1 Good movie! However, risk exposure isn't cumulative. Statistics is weird like that. The formula I found was 1-(chance of livingˆnumber of jumps) where you take the odds of living a skydive to the power of the number of jumps. So let's say it's 1:150,000. Our formula to find the risk of 1,000 skydives looks like this: 1-(0.9999967)ˆ1000 = 0.0066479 Or, the risk of dying from the exposure of 1,000 jumps is 0.67% So it's more like out of 167 skydivers that do 1,000 jumps...although I'm sure there's a different formula for showing that because just like the odds, we can't apply the results of this formula cumulatively. My point wasn't to convince people that skydiving is safe, but that it's a dangerous sport that can be done safely. Gotta remember all the zoodivers and sofpidarfers are included in the stats so if you're doing everything you can to mitigate risk, I believe the odds are even better than the USPA statistics. But that changes on each jump, depending on conditions, etc. Lots of extenuating factors.
Hey, I have around 28 jump and im pretty bad at arching and being stable in freefall. I have 18 freefall jumps out of 28. Should I get some tunnel time? I found a place in Hungary where they charge 100 bucks for 30 minutes. Thing is I skydive for free, the jumps are paid by the governement, but we have only 2 weeks of jumping during the summer. So should I try the tunnel?
I jumped for some years back in the seventies. I personally witnessed three fatalities (one close friend) in three months and knew five or six others that were killed when I wasn't there or were on other DZ's over a six year period. The last one which I didn't actually see because I was in the air on another load was a young mother who drowned in a small dam a couple of hundred metres from the DZ. This was in the days when even the most experience jumpers had less than a thousand jumps because it was all part time on weekends; so statistically the fatality rate was high. I suspect the odds are much better now. A friend of mine jokingly use to say "It's a dirty, dangerous business, but somebody has to do it".
Doesn’t seem like things were done safety or so something because several years and thousands of jumps I’ve seen broken legs and such but never death. But also fast forward 50 years and a lot has changed
@@anthonyreaux1455 The culture and dedication to safety was there, but there was still a lot of development going on at the time. I dare say the design of canopies and deployment systems has contributed to increased safety standards over the last forty or fifty years. In my day there were quite a few, almost experimental, designs that presented significant problems. The names of 'Thunderbow, Sled and Volplane come to mind. The Para-Commander (PC) was for many years the most common sporting parachute but subject to stabalizer 'hook up' that required a cut away. One of the rigs I jumped was a Irvin Delta II Parawing (Wing). The original owner was killed jumping it and I had three cutaways on it. After the lines were extended, they were kept 'wrapped' by a heavy canvas wrap (with velcro tabs) called an OSI (Opening Shock Inhibitor) that would be released in sequence by the opening of the triangular shaped canopy from the front. Sometimes that wrap wouldn't come off, so you just had extended lines and a deployment bag above your head!
The risk of injury is substantially higher than that. People just don’t report their injuries. I’ve been told that you can expect 1 minor injury for every 200 jumps, and one major injury for every 5,000. I was unlucky enough to experience a major injury on my 4th jump, broke both ankles. Granted I was a student and made a rookie mistake. But mistakes are part of the sport and that how injuries happen. I’m all for pushing awareness of how safe the sport is and highlighting the low fatality rates, but we shouldn’t screw the numbers for injuries. Anyone in the sport knows that injuries are much more prevalent than the USPA data suggests.
Sounds like alternative facts.😛 I know it's safe statistically but every once in a while I still catch myself on the way to the drop zone thinking why the f$ck am I doing this?!?! Jumping is a little tiny bit crazy though but I love it. Gear checks people! Gear checks. So good to have the vlog back on the regular.
You fly with an AAD right? From about 50-100 jumps I didn’t...got in a couple sketchy zoo dives and dialed it back. If it’s been awhile I feel ya nerves sometimes come back.
I think the correct word for me when I was jumping frequently was... apprehensive. You know it's safe. But in what state is the canopy gona open? Let face it when it open n flying straight etc. The rest is human error;)
Well a human packed it lol I make sure to do my gear checks, look everything over, and then relax. I can control everything to a certain point then fate intervenes. There’s a certain freedom in that.
Not in the sense that you have collapsed cells, but it does have less volume of air than the other side of the wing in full flight. Pulling the toggles causes the brake lines to deform the rear part of the wing. The increased drag slows this side of the wing and the canopy turns as a result. However, my reasoning is that because the toggles actually deform the wing, that part of the wing can hold less volume of air than the side that is in full flight, therefore it is deflating the wing slightly. Although I probably should've mentioned that it's not the direct mechanism in charge of turning. When you hold both toggles down until a stall, doesn't the canopy deflate? It just makes sense to me that there is some volume of air transfer during a toggle steer, and I used the word "deflate" to get that across. It's not to say the canopy is fully deflated on one side, or depressurized, but that there is a difference between the braked side and the full flight side of the canopy.
what would be interesting to know is what happened in that 25% of fatalities that were not avoidable, what were the causes. Scubadiving is nearly 3 times more dangerous than skydiving, but skydiving is about 10 times scarier even for people who practice both sports, why? Because even if the statistics are better for skydiving, there's still this 25% of fatalities that were not the skydiver's fault, in scubadiving all the fatalities are because the scubadiver did something wrong putting his life at risk, which means you can avoid it if you are mentally sane and phisically fit.
Last year, there were a number of heart attacks in older jumpers, plus other medical conditions. Actual unavoidable malfunctions were very few. There was also a suicide. The USPA publishes statistics on this every year in Parachutist magazine.
Actually what you've calculated is the decimal number reaching from 0 to 1. To make it percent you have to divide by 100 which makes approximately a 0.000000065% average chance of dying in a skydive. Thus the only logical thing for us to do here on earth is jumping out of these airplanes. Blue skies :-)
@1:46 0.0000065 is not 0.0000065%, it is actually 0.00065%. You can think it like this if every skydiver would die then 153,557 / 153,557 = 1, and 1 would be 100% not 1%
It would be nice to see that data, if the USPA had it. Parachutist does a pretty good breakdown every year that shows if you're jumping safely you can properly mitigate nearly all the fatalities each year. But there are so many factors: skill level, currency, risk-mitigation, that jumper with a chip on their should trying to prove something...
My response to people who ask me "Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane?" is always "Well no airplane is really a *perfectly good* airplane you don't know if that plane is going to make it back down safely, for all you know that plane is going to just spontaneously implode"
Bruh I worked the air show last weekend for skydive sebastian and that’s all I hear all frickin day. Video to come soon. But how awesome is it that we live in a time where being inside a metal box flying through the air is considered perfectly safe?
Awesome video man, but I just want to make a correction to the math - you said “0.0000065% chance that you’re gonna die”, it’s actually 0.00065% chance
Yeah I know I don’t maths so well I’ll have to make an updated video. I know there’s a recursive formula for the amount of jumps you do as well to really get the numbers down.
How dangerous is skydiving Stats from 2016 USPA 1 out of 153557 is fatal That is a chance of death about 0,000651% That means you will have a succes rate about 99,99935 % in a solo jump Stats from 2018 USPA 1 out of 253669 fatal That is a chance of death 0,000394% that means you will have a succes rate about 99,99961% Blue skies Disclaimer! Didn´t pass math in High School and my mother language isn´t English, but I skydived before High school(solo staticline)
It seems death seems to be a recurring theme for this sport. Too many people seem hyper focused on the things that could go wrong. It’s like the cycling community focusing on deaths...way too often then wonder why no one wants to ride. I’ve had one jump but I’m all in. Of course there are dangers in the sport, but I try and focus on how awesome it is. To nonchalant???
Death is a recurring theme in life, the only thing guaranteed. I think it’s a good thing. If you look at every day like it might be your last, every moment gets richer and more vibrant. If you ignore the fact that you’re going to die, you might put off doing things or telling people you love them. Or you might never chase your dreams because “there’s always tomorrow”. It’s the wool many people draw over their eyes that prevents them from living a full life. In my opinion anyway.
Because tandem skydives use different equipment, they don't fly in formation, and don't do dangerous landings like canopy swooping. Angle flying and wingsuiting brings in levels of risk, as does high performance canopy flying. Most skydiving fatalities are avoidable, very few are due to gear issues or total malfunctions. The USPA publishes stats at uspa.org that you can look into
Thanks for the response, i just recently passed my AFF and I loved it, but I still wonder about the risks. So you would say that most of the risk comes from people trying to do harder stuff.
Death, unlikely. Injury, including severe paralysis or getting maimed? highly likely if you do it long enough. If you breakdown death or injury by skill level of the jumper... Less experienced AFF students (due to lack of skills) and more experienced jumpers C/D licensed (due to sheer # of jumps and swooping) get killed or hurt most often. I think its still worth it. You gotta respect the sport and take it seriously. Also, realize some of the other jumpers in the plane may not be as safety conscious as you are.
Wanting to take my first jump soon and am listening to a lot of negativity about it. I'm sending all the naysayers this video. 🤣 skydiving sounds a lot more fun than the marathon. 🤣
Hey man did you end up doing it? If so how was it? I’m thinking of doing the aff course but I’m kinda freaking out, like will they know if I’m ready and can I trust myself? I currently only have 2 tandems and I landed a Paraglider about a dozen times on a practice hill
@@PimaArt basically the fear will go as soon as u jump, because u are so up high in the air that u don’t feel that stomachache that u would usually get in a rollercoaster because you have nothing next to you to compare and know how fast you are going! It’s a very magical experience especially when the parachute deploys and you can just see everything. So I would say my worst part was thinking about it over and over but when I jumped! It was soo worth it!
@@PimaArt and people that work in places like that are usually very very friendly and full of joy and excitement! So they know that you will be nervous and will give you their instructions and everything like that!
@@2_fitnesss523 I keep watching videos when I should just call and set up my aff course, thanks so much ,I’m glad you did it and I’m sure are still enjoying it. I don’t want to be strapped to an instructor forever, I’m going to do it. 👍
The real question is. What are the chances of getting injured..I would say 100%.. If you do it long enough. Just the nature of Extreme Sports. I would add. Low turn swooping\hook turn. Is the same as any Airplane tip stall below1500 feet...
True, there’s always gonna be at least minor injuries even if you’re able to prevent the major stuff. Twisted ankles, hitting the airplane door on the way out, or the abrasion I got from a helicopter skid!
You're hiding the fact that if you don't use a parachute, the risk increases massively. Why don't you show us the stats for people who come down the natural way?
Whenever people ask me I always like to say we have made it even safer. I mean, can you imagine checking your entire car everytime you went driving? Or briefing each trip with every other driver on the road beforehand?
When I started skydiving in 1997, I faced the question every skydiver gets asked..., “why jump out of a perfectly good airplane”? At the time, the plane we had was sketchy, the most dangerous part of the skydive was the plane ride up, it only made sense to jump out of it! 😆
Good call 🤙🏻
LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I did my first tandem about a month ago. The plane we took up looked like a huge pos! Even the guy I jumped with said "I'm jumping outta this plane with or without you because I don't want to be in this turd for the landing" haha. Had I been not jumping out I don't think I would've got it that plane. And I'm sure it was a perfectly good aircraft and he was just kidding me but yeah that plane looked pretty rough.
I think you have a higher chance of getting killed driving to the drop zone than you do jumping. Doing a great job with the videos!!
Thanks! Actually you’d have to drive a motorcycle 50 miles to be exposed to 8 micromort of risk. So if the dropzone is 51 miles away and you ride...it’s more dangerous!
it actually is lol, there's a 0.0167% chance of dying in 10,000 miles of driving compared to a 0.0007% chance of dying in 3 million jumps.
whats the survival rate if things go wrong up there?...as of being in a crash
I don’t think those numbers are available. The USPA has statistics on their website USPA.org
I’m weak! Ahahahah. I’m jumping on the 30th.
When I get asked why I'd jump out of a perfectly good airplane. I always respond with, "YOLO!"
But the real question is, is it really a perfectly good airplane?
@@Reaperdeathpunch Probably, but it's fun to jump out of it... Required you have a parachute :D
No such thing as a "Perfectly Good Airplane"..
I would like to see the statistics if you took swoopers out and people doing stunts
Yeah me too, I know the tandem fatality rate is a lot better than fun jumpers and probably for that reason.
I truly believe it’s a dangerous sport that can be done safely, just depends on your gear checks and guidelines for jumping
The people who criticize you for living an incredible life by skydiving and such are the same miserable pieces of $hits who live a 9-5 job they hate and spend their money on drugs, gambling and other useless crap and never get out of their comfort zone to know what living the dream is. I love skydiving. I just did my first tandem. I'm signing up for my AFF Now 😉
Truth 👊🏻
Truth 🙏👊👊
I haven’t jumped in 3 months and needed something to ease my nerves before tomorrow.. thank you 😊
Same here it’s been nearly two months for me
6 months for me, first was a tandem, Now i'm looking forward to ffa lmao
I just found your channel. Watched a few vids and came across this. Thank you for taking the time to explain how safe it actually is. As someone recently married and thinking about children... I’ve wanted to go for the AFF... but also found myself second guessing it. The Fear vid and This one... totally explained what I needed to know!
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Did you end up completing AFF?
Love the stuff pal! I'd like to see a video / talk on your AFF experience & what to expect! Keep it up!
A “how to start skydiving” video is on the production list. Unfortunately I don’t have any video from AFF when I took the course 😕
IL keep my eyes peeled dude!
I have one if you'd like to check it out. ;)
Skydive Vibes will do!
I battle with severe depression. And, I’ve considered taking up skydiving since it has been a dream of mine for so long and to lift my spirit for life. My concern is my struggle and ability to make quick decision in a dangerous situation. That’s what keeps me from going for it. What are your thoughts on that?
Been there man. I’ve been through two hard wars overseas and I got into skydiving when I went through a tough divorce. It broke the depression cycle for me and woke me up to the fact that I really really love my life. I can’t give you medical advice but I’ll tell you what my experience has been. I need a good jump every few weeks to relieve the stress. That fear sharpens me. Even if it’s not as intense as it once was, the recognition of my mortality still has power. Much love and luck to you 🤙🏻
I just made a tandem last month in Florida. I liked it so much I did another. I just turned 62. It hits you in the following weeks. You start thinking about it and your body becomes energized and it puts a spring in your step. Just try 1 tandem. You will see.
@@0doubledseven589 facts, same happened to me, It made me realize my life aint so bad and gave me energy to keep pushing, Now i'm even thinking about getting my ffa and eventually class A lmao
If anything I say here comes off mean or insensitive, it's not meant to be, get over it. Listen, if you seriously have wanted to go skydiving, you need to go. Hopefully you didn't comment for attention because this guy gave you every reason to go that you can get, and over 2 years later I see no reply saying you went. Thank you for your service Perndog, and I'm sorry you have had to go through everything you have, that sucks, man. Not seeing a reply leads me to believe you're just here commenting for attention, which, as someone who has a valid reason to be depressed is pissing me off. Hopefully you went and realized it's the greatest thing ever. The people become your family, your biggest supporters and life becomes everything you've dreamt about. I guess I don't understand, you said something about your brain being broken, but I never experienced anything like that nor do I know anyone who has either. Are you " mentally challenged"? What gives, sounds to me like you make excuses so you can play this card for attention. Do you drive a car? Do you play Xbox? Or PlayStation? If you drive a car you can jump out of an airplane.
I'm going on my first jump ever on this Sunday on the third on my 21st birthday in Yosemite and I'm really nervous but honestly this video made my nerves go down a lot and helped immensely so thanks a lot and wish me luck!!
Crazy! How did it went?
Awesome video man!!! Def motivated me to go ahead and do it. And I will skydive soon. Thank you
Thanks glad you liked it 👊🏻
Love the content, Perndog! What’s the “fear” video you’re referencing towards the end?
Love the video Bro! I actually pulled those USPA stats up on my parents when i was getting ready for my license cause we had a severe injury on one of my tandem instructors and death of his tandem student. They were skeptical but now theyre a lot more like ohhh alright since its been a few years and im at 50 jumps. Before you even said it in the second part I was going to comment a lot of it is about discretion but yeah you hit the nail on the head!
Tandem accidents are even more rare. But it’s all about hedging your risk. Zoo dives will happen but it’s important to me to stay safe as I get into more dangerous styles of jumps. Blue skies man 🤙🏻
@@PernDog Yeah, they think it was a dust devil that collapsed that tandem pairs canopy
Damn!
StraightP1ff I pray you have safe jumps every time may God be with you !!!
@@JusZard Thanks Bro, Blue Skies!!
I am doing a Tandem Parachute Jump for Break on September 8th & we are going to be going 13,000ft. This is my 3rd jump but my first time at 13,000ft. I don't know how I'm going to do. Yet.
But I am hoping that I don't close my eyes,& hold my breath, like I did on the first Tandom Parachute Jump. Wish me luck.
Good luck! Take a deep breath right before you go and you’ll do fine. Just relax and enjoy the ride!
Love your vids!! What size/type of canopy are you flying ?
Aerodyne Triathlon 175. I had switched to a Sabre 2 150 (its Amber’s) but needed a new pilot chute so I’ve got to get that installed before jumping it again. The two canopies are waaaay different. 7 cell rectangle is really forgiving. The 9 cell semi-elliptical is quite more responsive. And fun.
Hey man thanks for the info, especially that excellent Micromort resource on Wiki!
I plan on getting my class A license soon. Of course I worry about something going wrong but when I read most deaths are from experienced jumpers pushing the limits or just getting complacent.
Did you end up doing it?
@@BWS952 I got 10 jumps in 3 days. Unfortunately I must have issues with my sinuses or ears. After the first day my ears wouldn't unpop. After the 2nd day it got worse. My ears and head felt like they were going to exploded and I had a ringing sound that wouldn't go away. The 3rd day I finally brought it up to the instructors. They recommend I do what I felt was best. I traveled to different state to get my license in 1 week so I didn't want to quit. That 3rd day I jumped twice and on that last jump I had a bloody nose during the jump so I decided it's probably best to quit. It sucked to give up but at that point I was really concerned about doing permanent damage. I had issues for the next 2 months! Thankfully I don't have any problems anymore. Besides all that lol it was an amazing experience. Paramotoring here I come haha and I'll probably try another tandem and see how it goes.
@@lobbyrobby I respect and admire your tenacity to keep going. Why did you go to a different DZ? I'm glad you recovered. Do you know what was causing the medical issues?
Also an idea for an upcoming episode? "What to expect when you're expecting a skydiver"?
Oh he’s kicking like crazy in there too he’s gonna be a handful I know it
Hahaha we need to chat more. Mine will be introduced to the DZ this summer.He needs to get out first hihihi
It’s going to be interesting as we both jump...people have told me they’ll watch the kid so we can jump together occasionally. Hopefully it inspires him to live a life not defined by fear like so many others unfortunately do!
PernDog well I am the only one who jump but my husband is a farmer and never really spent time on the DZ so the game will be similar!
Oh so you’ve got a babysitter already lol nice
Interesting video. Greetings from a german skydive student!
Thanks Brandon 🤙🏻
checking Micromorts per unit of exposure is 8 per jump and for the marathon is 7 per run. Jogging is very risky!
Well I'm definitely at 0% risk of dying due to a marathon lol
This was great thanks 🙏
Thanks Shane 🤙🏻
I wish I could take my rig w/me when I fly commercially , that way if there's a problem , they could open the door and let me off :)
You can. However the doors don’t open because of pressurization. So you’d have to ride it to the end anyway 👊🏻
@@PernDog This might help explain the Micromort . th-cam.com/video/w-CK8VxMz9g/w-d-xo.html
@@PernDog they can just drop the oxygen masks and depressurize it, wouldn't be very safe for the non skydivers, but it's doable
Awesome video!!!!
Thanks
do those statistics include base jumps?
No, BASE jumping is significantly more dangerous, and enough differences exist in freefall speeds and gear that it could be considered an entire different sport.
Something like 1 in 2,300 BASE jumps are fatal. Wingsuit proximity flying is even more dangerous.
Love the vid as per usual
The problem with quoting the probability of dying on a single jump is that a lot of people who call them skydivers do more than one jump. And then the probability changes. Consider the probability of getting one heads is 1/2. But that's only if you throw the coin once. If you throw the coin twice the probability is 3/4. And that assumes the coin has no memory and each throw is 50/50. Why? because there are four things that can happen it can lands HH, TT,HT and TH. All of these four outcomes are equally likely , and 3 out of 4 will give you at leats one heads. So the probability of something happening on multiple occasions is very different to just once. So yes the chance of dying on any one skydive is quite low. But consider this, the most number of jumps I have done in a day is 11. I know some people that have done more than 30 in a day. i never met a marathon runner that did 11 marathons in one day. And so the comparison is off base. This is the reason skydiving as a sport is much ore dangerous than marathon running, even if an individual jump is not.
Yeah I know there’s a formula for calculating risk exposure over number of jumps but I took Math for Marines 👊🏻🏴☠️
@@PernDog Well lets put in the context of a war movie then. Im thinking "The Deer Hunter" . If you haven't seen it, American soldiers are forced to play Russian roulette. Now suppose you put one bullet in a chamber of 6. If you do this once, what do you think of statement (A)?: (A) you are far more likely not be killed than to be killed. You have a 5/6 chance of survival. I think statement A is true and Im sure you will agree. But if you play the game many times each day, do you think that statement A is still true? Of course it isn't, it wont take long for the law of large numbers to make you unlikely event into a likely one. Maths is maths whether you are a marine or not and skydiving is a dangerous sport and we will lose less friends if we recognise that. Think of it this way if the odds of dying on a jump are 100,000 to one, then one in every hundred jumpers that does a thousand jumps will die jumping. If The odds of dying in a marathon are the same then which is the more dangerous sport ? You might be tempted to say the same but of course I come back to my point , a skydiver is more likely to make a thousand jumps than a marathon runner is to do a thousand marathons.
@@PhilHalper1 Good movie!
However, risk exposure isn't cumulative. Statistics is weird like that. The formula I found was 1-(chance of livingˆnumber of jumps) where you take the odds of living a skydive to the power of the number of jumps.
So let's say it's 1:150,000. Our formula to find the risk of 1,000 skydives looks like this:
1-(0.9999967)ˆ1000 = 0.0066479
Or, the risk of dying from the exposure of 1,000 jumps is 0.67%
So it's more like out of 167 skydivers that do 1,000 jumps...although I'm sure there's a different formula for showing that because just like the odds, we can't apply the results of this formula cumulatively.
My point wasn't to convince people that skydiving is safe, but that it's a dangerous sport that can be done safely. Gotta remember all the zoodivers and sofpidarfers are included in the stats so if you're doing everything you can to mitigate risk, I believe the odds are even better than the USPA statistics.
But that changes on each jump, depending on conditions, etc. Lots of extenuating factors.
Hey, I have around 28 jump and im pretty bad at arching and being stable in freefall. I have 18 freefall jumps out of 28. Should I get some tunnel time? I found a place in Hungary where they charge 100 bucks for 30 minutes. Thing is I skydive for free, the jumps are paid by the governement, but we have only 2 weeks of jumping during the summer. So should I try the tunnel?
I jumped for some years back in the seventies. I personally witnessed three fatalities (one close friend) in three months and knew five or six others that were killed when I wasn't there or were on other DZ's over a six year period. The last one which I didn't actually see because I was in the air on another load was a young mother who drowned in a small dam a couple of hundred metres from the DZ. This was in the days when even the most experience jumpers had less than a thousand jumps because it was all part time on weekends; so statistically the fatality rate was high. I suspect the odds are much better now. A friend of mine jokingly use to say "It's a dirty, dangerous business, but somebody has to do it".
Doesn’t seem like things were done safety or so something because several years and thousands of jumps
I’ve seen broken legs and such but never death. But also fast forward 50 years and a lot has changed
@@anthonyreaux1455
The culture and dedication to safety was there, but there was still a lot of development going on at the time.
I dare say the design of canopies and deployment systems has contributed to increased safety standards over the last forty or fifty years. In my day there were quite a few, almost experimental, designs that presented significant problems.
The names of 'Thunderbow, Sled and Volplane come to mind.
The Para-Commander (PC) was for many years the most common sporting parachute but subject to stabalizer 'hook up' that required a cut away.
One of the rigs I jumped was a Irvin Delta II Parawing (Wing). The original owner was killed jumping it and I had three cutaways on it. After the lines were extended, they were kept 'wrapped' by a heavy canvas wrap (with velcro tabs) called an OSI (Opening Shock Inhibitor) that would be released in sequence by the opening of the triangular shaped canopy from the front. Sometimes that wrap wouldn't come off, so you just had extended lines and a deployment bag above your head!
That sounds nuts and totally past my risk profile. Much love to the originators of this sport!
It becomes all consuming and quite addictive.
The risk of injury is substantially higher than that. People just don’t report their injuries. I’ve been told that you can expect 1 minor injury for every 200 jumps, and one major injury for every 5,000. I was unlucky enough to experience a major injury on my 4th jump, broke both ankles. Granted I was a student and made a rookie mistake. But mistakes are part of the sport and that how injuries happen. I’m all for pushing awareness of how safe the sport is and highlighting the low fatality rates, but we shouldn’t screw the numbers for injuries. Anyone in the sport knows that injuries are much more prevalent than the USPA data suggests.
Sounds like alternative facts.😛 I know it's safe statistically but every once in a while I still catch myself on the way to the drop zone thinking why the f$ck am I doing this?!?! Jumping is a little tiny bit crazy though but I love it. Gear checks people! Gear checks. So good to have the vlog back on the regular.
You fly with an AAD right? From about 50-100 jumps I didn’t...got in a couple sketchy zoo dives and dialed it back. If it’s been awhile I feel ya nerves sometimes come back.
I think the correct word for me when I was jumping frequently was... apprehensive. You know it's safe. But in what state is the canopy gona open? Let face it when it open n flying straight etc. The rest is human error;)
Well a human packed it lol I make sure to do my gear checks, look everything over, and then relax. I can control everything to a certain point then fate intervenes. There’s a certain freedom in that.
When you turn, it does NOT deflate that side of the canopy.
Not in the sense that you have collapsed cells, but it does have less volume of air than the other side of the wing in full flight.
Pulling the toggles causes the brake lines to deform the rear part of the wing. The increased drag slows this side of the wing and the canopy turns as a result.
However, my reasoning is that because the toggles actually deform the wing, that part of the wing can hold less volume of air than the side that is in full flight, therefore it is deflating the wing slightly. Although I probably should've mentioned that it's not the direct mechanism in charge of turning.
When you hold both toggles down until a stall, doesn't the canopy deflate? It just makes sense to me that there is some volume of air transfer during a toggle steer, and I used the word "deflate" to get that across. It's not to say the canopy is fully deflated on one side, or depressurized, but that there is a difference between the braked side and the full flight side of the canopy.
@@PernDog That's a better explanation.
what would be interesting to know is what happened in that 25% of fatalities that were not avoidable, what were the causes. Scubadiving is nearly 3 times more dangerous than skydiving, but skydiving is about 10 times scarier even for people who practice both sports, why? Because even if the statistics are better for skydiving, there's still this 25% of fatalities that were not the skydiver's fault, in scubadiving all the fatalities are because the scubadiver did something wrong putting his life at risk, which means you can avoid it if you are mentally sane and phisically fit.
Last year, there were a number of heart attacks in older jumpers, plus other medical conditions. Actual unavoidable malfunctions were very few. There was also a suicide. The USPA publishes statistics on this every year in Parachutist magazine.
@@PernDog thanks for the info
Actually what you've calculated is the decimal number reaching from 0 to 1. To make it percent you have to divide by 100 which makes approximately a 0.000000065% average chance of dying in a skydive. Thus the only logical thing for us to do here on earth is jumping out of these airplanes.
Blue skies :-)
I took “Math for Liberal Arts” in college lol and it shows
You multiply by 100 to get the % not divide. 1/10 would be 0.1. 0.1 x 100 = 10%.
@@anthonylebel1089 Of course you are right. Don't know what my brain was thinking back then. But at least his point stays valid either way.
@1:46 0.0000065 is not 0.0000065%, it is actually 0.00065%. You can think it like this if every skydiver would die then 153,557 / 153,557 = 1, and 1 would be 100% not 1%
Yeah thanks for the correction, I know I messed up! Should update this video
@@PernDog anyways, very interesting video! Keep it up
how many of those numbers are just from the same pros jumping multiple times a day?
It would be nice to see that data, if the USPA had it. Parachutist does a pretty good breakdown every year that shows if you're jumping safely you can properly mitigate nearly all the fatalities each year. But there are so many factors: skill level, currency, risk-mitigation, that jumper with a chip on their should trying to prove something...
My response to people who ask me "Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane?" is always "Well no airplane is really a *perfectly good* airplane you don't know if that plane is going to make it back down safely, for all you know that plane is going to just spontaneously implode"
Bruh I worked the air show last weekend for skydive sebastian and that’s all I hear all frickin day. Video to come soon.
But how awesome is it that we live in a time where being inside a metal box flying through the air is considered perfectly safe?
Awesome video man, but I just want to make a correction to the math - you said “0.0000065% chance that you’re gonna die”, it’s actually 0.00065% chance
And .067% that you’ll injure yourself, not 0.0067%
Good catch math is not my strong suit lol
PernDog no prob man thanks for the awesome vids
Actually in 3million jumps only 21 are fatal which is 0.0007%
Yeah I know I don’t maths so well I’ll have to make an updated video. I know there’s a recursive formula for the amount of jumps you do as well to really get the numbers down.
How dangerous is skydiving
Stats from 2016 USPA
1 out of 153557 is fatal
That is a chance of death about 0,000651%
That means you will have a succes rate about 99,99935 % in a solo jump
Stats from 2018 USPA
1 out of 253669 fatal
That is a chance of death 0,000394%
that means you will have a succes rate about 99,99961%
Blue skies
Disclaimer! Didn´t pass math in High School
and my mother language isn´t English, but I skydived before High school(solo staticline)
I don't math very well either, I need to remake this video lol
It seems death seems to be a recurring theme for this sport. Too many people seem hyper focused on the things that could go wrong. It’s like the cycling community focusing on deaths...way too often then wonder why no one wants to ride. I’ve had one jump but I’m all in. Of course there are dangers in the sport, but I try and focus on how awesome it is. To nonchalant???
Death is a recurring theme in life, the only thing guaranteed. I think it’s a good thing. If you look at every day like it might be your last, every moment gets richer and more vibrant.
If you ignore the fact that you’re going to die, you might put off doing things or telling people you love them. Or you might never chase your dreams because “there’s always tomorrow”. It’s the wool many people draw over their eyes that prevents them from living a full life. In my opinion anyway.
What's crazy is as a skydiver I would have to pay outrageous premiums to have life insurance. But motorcyclists get life insurance.
Why are the probabilities different ?
Because tandem skydives use different equipment, they don't fly in formation, and don't do dangerous landings like canopy swooping. Angle flying and wingsuiting brings in levels of risk, as does high performance canopy flying. Most skydiving fatalities are avoidable, very few are due to gear issues or total malfunctions. The USPA publishes stats at uspa.org that you can look into
Thanks for the response, i just recently passed my AFF and I loved it, but I still wonder about the risks. So you would say that most of the risk comes from people trying to do harder stuff.
Death, unlikely. Injury, including severe paralysis or getting maimed? highly likely if you do it long enough. If you breakdown death or injury by skill level of the jumper... Less experienced AFF students (due to lack of skills) and more experienced jumpers C/D licensed (due to sheer # of jumps and swooping) get killed or hurt most often. I think its still worth it. You gotta respect the sport and take it seriously. Also, realize some of the other jumpers in the plane may not be as safety conscious as you are.
Making jump 3 today! Will probably live :)
Have fun!
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@@AG-vu3rk I lived! and have jumped 490ish times since.
love the vid
Thanks!
You forgot to multiply by 100 to make it a percent but otherwise very soothing video
Wanting to take my first jump soon and am listening to a lot of negativity about it. I'm sending all the naysayers this video. 🤣 skydiving sounds a lot more fun than the marathon. 🤣
Then add in how many are under a perfectly good parachute, I e., human error!
Bro I’m doing it after few days and this video calmed me the f*ck down lol thanks!
Awesome glad to hear it 🤙🏻
Hey man did you end up doing it? If so how was it? I’m thinking of doing the aff course but I’m kinda freaking out, like will they know if I’m ready and can I trust myself? I currently only have 2 tandems and I landed a Paraglider about a dozen times on a practice hill
@@PimaArt basically the fear will go as soon as u jump, because u are so up high in the air that u don’t feel that stomachache that u would usually get in a rollercoaster because you have nothing next to you to compare and know how fast you are going! It’s a very magical experience especially when the parachute deploys and you can just see everything. So I would say my worst part was thinking about it over and over but when I jumped! It was soo worth it!
@@PimaArt and people that work in places like that are usually very very friendly and full of joy and excitement! So they know that you will be nervous and will give you their instructions and everything like that!
@@2_fitnesss523 I keep watching videos when I should just call and set up my aff course, thanks so much ,I’m glad you did it and I’m sure are still enjoying it. I don’t want to be strapped to an instructor forever, I’m going to do it. 👍
My boyfriend wants to do it and it just scares me so much 🙃
You forgot to multiply with 100 in your calculation. 0.0000065 = 0.00065%
I didn't forget, lol, I am just kinda dumb when it comes to math!
What if you pass out/faint ? You done son
Then your automatic activation device saves your life at about 1000 ft. Can't say I've ever been worried about fainting lol
The real question is. What are the chances of getting injured..I would say 100%.. If you do it long enough. Just the nature of Extreme Sports.
I would add. Low turn swooping\hook turn. Is the same as any Airplane tip stall below1500 feet...
True, there’s always gonna be at least minor injuries even if you’re able to prevent the major stuff. Twisted ankles, hitting the airplane door on the way out, or the abrasion I got from a helicopter skid!
My mom. Sky dived before I was born 🔥🤨🧐😏
Same with my sister she was pregnant and didn’t know it on her second tandem I think
Dirt Hurts
i have 5 jumps now and from my experience it is safe i have not died a single time
I’m in the ten years no reserve rides club. If you practice proper risk mitigation you can safely skydive. ymmv
OnLY 1 in 500,000. Well with my luck I’m the one.
Better stay inside then, lol
Where can you pay 25$ to skydive?! I must know!😍😂
Nowhere anymore, it’s $26
$28 in Colorado
I wanna go skydive but i am too young and broke
Well good thing is you can get a job while you're growing older, that will take care of both of those issues
What is the chance of getting pregnant from a dirty toilet seat?
1 of mort's micro.....penis
99.99935% chances to live ? still not good enough...
Lol you were born with a 100% chance that you’ll die. Got to make the best of it, enjoy life and do the things that ignite your spirit 🤙🏻
So I guess this means if you are a skydiver, don't jump more than one hundred fifty three thousand and five hundred fifty seven times.
Closer to 250k based on last years numbers, probably more like 500k if you’re doing all your safety checks and pull off the zoo dives 🤙🏻
You're hiding the fact that if you don't use a parachute, the risk increases massively. Why don't you show us the stats for people who come down the natural way?