Hello you beauties. Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 The Frame Matters More Than the Picture 07:33 You Don’t Get to Choose What You Believe 21:29 Why Self Respect is So Important 35:12 Most People Strategise Instead of Executing 47:51 Are You Driven or Being Dragged? 58:54 The Loneliness & Hedonism of Elite Achievers 1:06:30 Why You Need to Sweat the Small Stuff 1:15:09 Do the Thing 1:19:28 Pressure is a Great Privilege 1:25:02 Steven’s Experience Becoming a Person of Public Interest 1:35:49 Do Our Beliefs Limit Us? 1:41:42 Context Is Worth More Than Skills 1:46:25 How to Avoid the Trap of Mono-Thinking 1:58:12 Fame Changes Everybody Around You 2:06:20 Where to Find Steven
I felt exactly the same way. It's echoing in my head and trying to pinpoint all the things I'm avoiding and scared of, so I know exactly where to start.
I think the quote Steven was referring to at 28:28 is “If you want to learn something, read about it. If you want to understand something, write about it. If you want to master something, teach it.”
These guys are wise beyond their years. It’s taken me three decades of adulthood to piece together just fractions of all these insights. Young people today don’t appreciate the ease of access to this wealth of insight
Steven is one of the smartest people on TH-cam and his interviews are mind-blowing. Whoever he's interviewing seems to be on the same intellectual level and he's interviewing the elite of mankind.
56:30 The Lonely Chapter. I listened to this bit twice because it is exactly what I am going through right now and it was such a relief to hear that this is something normal and something a lot of others go through when they decide that they need to break out of their comfort zone. Thank you Chris, invaluable episode!
I agree with this I’m currently expanding into looking for new friends as I just graduated from school and there’s an unsaid thing about wanting to leaving and knowing well I’ve always had a loneliness chapter
I went through this in 2008. Followed by a dark night of the soul. It is a threshold. If you don't back out and survive it, you will really have something.
I'm going through this right now. Super focused on crypto and building my portfolio. None of my friends are into it but they're happy with their 9 to 5 lifes, but Im trying to get out of it.
Steven is such a great listener - that could be the reason that he is so insightful and fastly grasps the meaning of a topic. Loved to see him get interviewed. Even more impressive that he is one of the podcasters that will give his guests the space, holds it and only adds to the person he is interviewing without interrupting or trying to hard to lead the way of the conversation.
17:35 if you're struggling with low self confidence, low self esteem, feel stuck or that you're going nowhere , THIS part is a must listen. It's about making and keeping your own commitments to yourself. Incredible episode, absolutely love both of you ❤️
when you're talking about production quality and then it cut to the wide view of you guys sitting so close to eachother it made me smile. Wasn't expecting it. Love you guys thank you for what you're doing
This was very interesting to listen to. You rarely get to listen to Steven talk since he is usually the host but I learned a lot from his insights. Thank you Chris for this interesting interview.
I’m time stamping the story of Chris Eubanks Jr at 23:00 because it’s so powerful. I have a habit of starting off strong, but have a tendency to slow down towards the end. I need to get better and I will. Thanks for this bit.
As a 66 year old bloke who, by my own admission, hasn't done a lot of value in my life that I can be proud of, I find this interview in particular, but Chris's interviews and content generally to be a wonderful source of support. Self respect hit home here and the commitment to myself which I have been a spectacular failure at. I still don't understand how I've managed to be where I am as one of the more fortunate people in the world at the moment with mostly first world problems that I do my best to keep to myself. Thanks for providing such valuable information for the rest of us to draw inspiration from. Still many more years left to learn for me.
So much GOLD from this conversation. I took so much notes and gave me new ideas on the bigger picture of my life and what steps to take next. Especially about the part about driven by principle and curiosity, loneliness - the real stuff! These guys know what they’re talking about and have been through it all.
This feels like watching a really pro tennis match. You both return the ball so swiftly, intensely, deep & sharp. I stop to check if it’s in normal speed or I accidentally roll it in 1.25 speed. As this is so so good. LOL. Originally listen to this before bed to sleep but it wakes me up instead. MORE PLEASE!
I hardly ever leave comments these days, but wanted to say how great this episode was, natural and truly insightful conversation. If this was the only one, I'd be content. Another one would be a privilege 🙏🏽
Subscribed 6 months ago. The worst part of my day is driving to work. This has become my favourite part of the day. Love listening to Chris and his guests.
Good evening Chris and Steven No words without sounding like a Granny and a Mum. In this wee moment. Just to say, my wonderful young adult kids should be paying attention to both your work, more than their Mum. I do continue to recommend though! But admittedly I have gained so much from your shared work and associated guests you converse with, whom share their experience and knowledge. Has been a lot of everything nearly, I have required over passing couple of years. Tough times! So wow, loving this. Grateful. Truly. 💜
I don’t know the last time I felt the way I feel right now after listening to these two. The insights given in this interview are - without exaggeration - life-changing. Thank you Chris & Steven. Wow. Replaying this again. Please reunite in the future. Much continued success to both, keep leading by example.
Chris never listened to one of your podcast before but listens to Steven’s - you two together are dynamic so interesting it felt like you were having a conversation in your living room about what each of you have learned and we were just there in the background catching pieces of wisdom from two masters.
“Losing the insecurities and the shame that are dragging you doesn’t dissolve your ambition. It dissolves your fake ambition and creates room for your real ambitions.” Pure gold right there.
1:34:09 - that level of stress & pain is so debilitating, and only folks who experience it, can truly understand! Steven, thank you for being transparent and honest about your experiences & emotions. 💪🏽. That takes a lot of vulnerability & strength!
One of the best podcasts for self improvement out there, so much value between these two modern gems. Thank you for blessing us all with your wisdom! 🙏
The abundance of takeaways from this piece of content are so well materialized in communication they might as well be tangible. No words could adequately express the fulfillment I experienced watching this episode. With currently working through a rut, hearing this conversation was immensely beneficial so as a committed listener of both of your works, thank you.
Twenty minutes in an I am already touched deeply. I need to keep my word to myself and have that compound. Thank you Chris! Your podcast will always keep me engaged and learning.
You can’t choose your beliefs, until you realize that you can influence them.. she wasn’t using hypnosis alone, but regression therapy based on attachment and psychodynamic theory.. other than that fine point, love this talk!!
Hey just wanted to say thank you so much for this. I've been really struggling this year as have many I'm sure. Background of childhood abuse/neglect etc. Recent major depressive episode and a lack of self confidence that has been with me my whole life. Anyway although I've always been into exercise and eating well and positivity, etc. this year something changed and I took the short slide right down into the happy ball pit of hell. Suicide attempt, lost my job, the whole nine yards. But today... I got up early and went for a long walk (haven't gone for one in ages), planned my day out, took care of business and adhered to today's goals. I feel so much better. I feel like maybe I can do this. As a small reward to myself after dinner, I had some carrot cake lol (one of the best things to exist!), but only ate half instead of the whole thing like I usually do. I'm a huge pot smoker, but have decided to only smoke on the weekend instead of every damn night lol. My sleep last night was much better and I feel more energy already. Thanks for this encouraging video guys! I feel like I can do this. WE can do this! Don't give up! Everyone deserves to give themselves another chance. Cheers!
I’m going through something similar - a life crisis involving losing my beloved home & workplace & life as I knew & loved it. I know how much it takes to break the pattern of self-sabotaging behaviour & am inspired by your productive day. Keep going, life IS worth living though we sometimes can’t see it. And know that you are not alone. I am walking your painful path too as we speak ❤️🙏🏻
Hey there I hope your doing better give yourself many chances if you stumble get up and give yourself a chance again and again long walking episodes I've found are great for clearing your mind and upping your energy levels a day at a time wishing you every happiness❤
Does anyone else feel like they never had a giant motivation on why they took their life path? No feelings of proving anyone wrong or themselves right? Anyone else just wake up and do the best they can?
Thank you Chris and Stephen gave us such a wonderful episode. Both of you are my heroes. Dear Chris , I would like you to associate people who held opposite views to your views. This will sharpen your curiosity . Stephen do as you are doing now this is best we like from you as spectator.
Man what a episode! 🤯 been waiting and wanting another pod with Steven as a guest and especially on the modern wisdom podcast! You two have climbed to the top 2 spots in my favorite list of podcasts to listen to and it will be because of you 2 guys that I start my own podcast with the goal of eventually turning into a full time position, and one day willingly and hopefully meet you both and manifesting you both as a guest on my podcast!
The lonely chapter… Thank you for shining a spotlight on a period of my life that has been so difficult to articulate to others. The transition between the person you were and the person you are meant to be is one of solitude - a time to reflect on the past and map out a path for your next journey. Brene Brown’s words were so instrumental in my ability to reach the shore when drifting alone with my thoughts, insecurities and fears… “I know what it means to stand alone and brave the criticism, fear and hurt. I know the freedom of belonging everywhere and nowhere at all. The reward is great, but the price is high. I have made this quest and I have the scars to prove it. It’s the paradox of feeling alone but also strong”. Your conversation has been a refreshing perspective on our mutual struggles. Thank you for sharing!
Surrendering maybe the key - not giving up or loosing as we've been programmed to believe, but to surrender to your task at hand like Artists/musicians who create Master pieces & surrendering to a heart felt hug - the energy flows ❤
I love listening to both of you individually, together is magic. With regards to commitments that you keep with yourself, Steven Covey junior’s book “the speed of trust” talks about the first layer of building trust and keeping promises to yourself. That’s my favorite book - thanks again gents for a episode!!
Ive listen to this more than once and will continue. It inspires me in so many ways to change, to be better, to understand how to move forward in a more productive way. It’s the best podcast I’ve listened to.
Bartlett is right about us being ruled by our beliefs, but dead wrong about our being unable to change our beliefs. After decades of conscious, intentional struggle, one thought at a time, I can honestly say that the contents of my mind are completely different from what they were when I started, to the extent that the 25 year old version of myself would not be able to in any way believe that he would grow into the person I am today, and would have absolutely no grid for understanding my motivations. Not only that, but I'm able to drop my entire thought and feeling process at will, and simply be with what is. So, don't believe that you can't change your beliefs. BTW, The hardest part by far is choosing what to believe.
Your conscious intentional struggle presented you with new evidence about yourself which is what Steven was actually talking about. He never said that it's impossible to change beliefs. Interesting how we can hear the same thing differently...:) Your journey sounds amazing and expansive.... more power to you ❤
This discussion was amazing!!! None of my friends are entrepreneurs and don’t understand what you go through. I felt so included in the conversation. I’ve been a Stephen subscriber for the past year, and now I am subscribed to Chris 🎉🎉
The way Steven grasps knowledge, processes it and explain it just speaks to every cell in my being. I don’t think whoever is interviewing him has the same mental wisdom though, constantly intercepting the conversation, pivoting the conversation to what he wants it to mean and more importantly the part where he said “you will have to let go of the team you had when you started” when you grow assumes that while you grow, other people remain in the same place and it’s highly arrogant, I loved the way Steven rebutted that.
This episode was so content dense with the back and fourth conversations being so eloquently put that I had to keep rewinding to just grasp a concept that seemed to be delivered so effortlessly. I absolutely love watching two people who are genuinely passionate about the pursuit of knowledge discuss ideas and concepts in such a professional manner, but what else can you expect from two of the best podcasters out there! Much love from South Africa mate! ♥️💪🇿🇦
34:32 I have thought about this so often and I really think it is both. A lot of wisdom comes with age for sure but some comes from our own deliberate searching. I feel like a lot is yet to be seen though... we are in a new era where wisdom like this is so wide spread and more accessible to younger people than it would have ever been before. In the past I don't think elders shared their wisdom with younger generations so much, they just lived it and expected the youth to figure a lot out on their own. In some cases it was even taboo to talk on certain topics (eg Puberty/PMS/Consummation/Mental health/Abuse/PTSD etc)
Brilliant brilliant chat. Thank you both for bringing so much knowledge and inspiration, and especially for showing us also your vulnerabile side, which gives hope to many of us grinding to get there. ❤️
I absolutely love you both so much. While I was listening to you speak, I thought of my daughter who said to me one day as I was "procrastinating," studying for an exam said Mom you need to protect your future self... what would she do? So, I now use this in my daily life especially when I don't feel like taking a shower, meal-prepping for the week, or pre-making coffee for the next day. I am a full-time nursing student and work on some days is really trying, however, her words like yours mean so much and I am watching and taking notes. Ty xoxo ~ J :)
I just bought your book today Steven The Diary of the CEO it's an absolute Gem I follow everything you do I've learned so much my mindset is amazing... Thank you brother
By far, the best and in the flow conversation I have listened to in quite some time. So many gems in it, so many truths, so much wisdom. Thank you Chris and Steven for being authentic, curious and willing to share your process and internal progress with us ❤ having a face to face conversation with both of you goes into my bucket list 😊
Commitment to self helps me a lot! I’m a HIGHLY warm person.. I’m amazing at doing things for everyone else, my friends, family (with boundaries) and they would do the same for me.. however when it comes to doing for myself… BLANK! .. I wake up everyday and say how can can I show up with COMPETENCE for myself when no one’s watching today! It helps a lot!! Xx
So many gems of wisdom- found this podcast addictive listened to it everywhere I went this afternoon - just couldn’t put it down till it finished! Brilliant observations, insights, advice etc etc etc! Love the honesty and integrity of the whole thing 👍
Had no idea he had that agility in talking about something. Normally he reserved very strategic in questions asked. He had to be on his feet for Chris.
Best podcast I’ve listened to, been a real eye opener for me. So many lessons and ways that I can improve that I’ve been able to take from this. Thank you.
great episode! Nice to hear and see Steven as a guest for a change. Think of all the things hes heard. Imagine the wisdom he hold now, and will gain in decades from now. Hes on track to being more famous then he could imagine.
Thank you Chris, thank you Steven, you and your work change my life daily, and if its only mentally. Respect to you, appreciate your hard work and for being a rolemodel for me.
Chris, when you talked about the existence wherein you constantly expose yourself to new ideas and relate that to constantly going to dinner with interesting people (31:46), please realize that this is what you are doing with this podcast. Thank you for posting these conversations. In so doing you are providing that opportunity to myself and others.
Awesome chat gentlemen. My 2 favorite pholisophers conversating. Golden wisdom. Driven or dragged. Carrot or stick. Inspired or motivated. Positive or negative stimuli. Love or fear.
One of the highest quality interviews I’ve watched. It was an insightful back and forth! Thank you for the deliverables and takeaways with a lot of the topics gentlemen
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🖼️ The frame matters more than the picture. How you present something significantly affects its perceived value and desirability. 07:37 🤔 You do not get to choose what you believe. Beliefs are often shaped by evidence and experiences, and changing them requires encountering new evidence or interpretations. 11:05 🧠 Beliefs can be influenced by hypnosis, where new evidence and interpretations are introduced, challenging existing beliefs. 15:32 🤝 Prejudice and bias can be context-dependent, and even self-prejudice can impact our performance and self-esteem. 18:16 🤷♂️ It's more socially acceptable to be self-critical than to be self-encouraging, which can affect self-esteem and personal development. 18:45 📅 Keeping commitments to yourself is essential for self-esteem and personal growth. The size of the commitment you keep when no one is watching affects your self-esteem and self-story. 22:17 💪 Controlling your actions, like not picking up your phone before a morning walk, is an effective way to influence your thoughts and feelings positively. 24:10 🤝 Not keeping commitments to yourself can have a profound impact on your self-image and trust in yourself, leading to a downward commitment spiral. 29:58 🚀 Mastery and innovation often come from deep practice and commitment to your craft. Practitioners understand their field at a fundamental level. 34:43 💡 To gain wisdom and expertise, go out and fail at something valuable while being deeply passionate about it. The magic often lies in the work you avoid. 37:57 🔑 Discipline equation: Discipline equals the importance of the goal to you plus the psychological enjoyment you get from pursuing the goal, minus the psychological cost of pursuing the goal. This equation helps assess your motivation and discipline. 43:43 🔑 Insecurity and shame can be powerful drivers of ambition and motivation. Many people are driven or dragged by these emotions, leading to their success. 50:30 🔑 Losing fake ambitions driven by insecurity can make room for real, intrinsically motivated ambitions that align with your values and bring true fulfillment. 53:19 🔑 Early in your journey, pain, often driven by past experiences or insecurities, can fuel your motivation and drive to succeed. Thisinitial drive is essential for overcoming activation energy. 56:08 🔑 The "Lonely Chapter" is a phase in personal development where you outgrow your old circle of friends due to your pursuit of new goals. This phase can be challenging but is essential for personal growth and finding like-minded individuals. 57:01 💪 High performers often go through a lonely chapter when leaving their comfortable tribe, but this loneliness can be a necessary part of personal growth and success. 59:04 🌟 People fundamentally struggle with feeling different and not feeling like they're enough, which can lead to feelings of loneliness and unhappiness. 01:02:05 🎙️ Building for the long-term is crucial in business and life, and thinking of endeavors as infinite games can lead to sustainable success and a lasting impact. 01:04:55 📈 Retaining key talent, often referred to as disciples, is essential for maintaining a strong organizational culture and momentum. 01:09:37 🔍 Sweating the small stuff is vital for success, as small decisions and actions compound over time, whether in business, personal life, or relationships. 01:15:11 📝 The only way to accomplish a task is by actually doing it; preparation, scheduling, or talking about it won't suffice. 01:17:06 🌟 We are motivated by the avoidance of discomfort more than the pursuit of pleasure, which often leads to procrastination. 01:19:39 💪 Embrace pressure as a privilege for growth; it's essential to challenge yourself and face difficulties. 01:22:27 🤔 Your interpretation of pressure and discomfort shapes how you experience and cope with them. 01:28:09 🚫 Limit the feedback and scrutiny you expose yourself to, keeping your focus on your core principles and avoiding unnecessary distractions. 01:33:44 🧊 Running a business can be incredibly stressful, with the pressure of payroll and financial challenges being more daunting than dealing with media or public attention. 01:34:27 💡 The cost of success varies, whether it's the loss of privacy like Drake or the stress of running a business like Ben. Different endeavors have different costs. 01:35:23 🚀 Deep expertise can lead to rigidity. Innovators often come from unconventional backgrounds, unburdened by conventional thinking. 01:37:15 🔄 Circles we draw around ourselves can limit our potential. Believing in self-imposed limits can prevent us from realizing our true capabilities. 01:47:27 🧠 Avoid "mono thinking," where one ideology defines all your beliefs. Embrace nuance and resist being pigeonholed into a single ideology. 01:52:07 🧠 People often avoid conversations with those who disagree with them because it challenges their identity and creates cognitive dissonance. 01:53:18 📚 Exposing yourself to content you disagree with can be valuable for gaining new perspectives and insights. 01:54:55 💡 When you see strong beliefs in others that you find absurd, it can make you question your own beliefs and their fragility. 01:55:24 🤔 Challenging the beliefs that define your identity can lead to self-discovery and a deeper understanding of who you truly are. 01:57:56 🇬🇧 In the UK, there is a strong pull to conform, which can stifle individuality, innovation, and motivation. Made with HARPA AI
Im a big fan of both Chris and Steven and was sooo happy to find this intelligent conversation between my two favourite podcasters! 🥰 I think you two should have a once a year podcast recording to catch up on all the insightful ideas you've learned since your last chat! It really is decades worth of wisdom condensed into a couple of hours and will resonate so much with what struggles people are going through in their daily lives. Thank you for being the wonderful men that you are and giving us 'pause for thought' and ideas about so many topics. X
You both are so impressive and the ease with which you delivered and bounced off of each other, during the video was so complimentary and engaging. So much of what you spoke about confirmed what I am feeling, going through, and doing, and more importantly I learned so much about myself. I need more of these illuminating conversations. It's absolutely invaluable. Kudos to you both and your teams who put it all together.
to everyone who is watching this video. May your life be filled with boundless abundance and prosperity! May opportunities flow your way, and success be your constant companion. Here's to a future brimming with wealth and joy. Keep believing in your dreams and working towards them. You've got this! 💗
Would you ever consider having Scott Mannion as a guest? He is an English writer, and professional film director who won the Au Directors Guild award awhile back. He used to live in LA for a time but left the evils of the Hollywood scene, returned to his native England to forge a dissident rebellion called the "Greenwood' publication. I would say what he tries to do is to rekindle the spirit of what art and literature ought to be. He does a great deal more than even what I can describe in a short paragraph. I just thought he would be a great addition to your already well chosen list of guests because he is witty, intelligent, accomplished, and most of all...he's a fellow Englishman. Cheers Chris, glad to see you doing so well! By the way, I never miss any of your news letters!
I’m only 19 min in and I’m so excited about this conversation. I work in mental health and FRAMEWORK aka how you narrate YOUR story is filter for how you see yourself and the world
Having almost finished Steven’s book this is great timing and a great follow up. If you haven’t I’d really urge you to do so, it’s insightful, thought provoking and inspiring 🙌🏻
By the end of this podcast, I think this is a perfect example of Worthy Rival that Simon Sinek is talking about in his "infinite game" book. Great episode!
Thank you! This has brought me an understanding as to why I am so different, and the clarity to work toward coping with the somewhat permanent "lonely chapter."
Hello you beauties. Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here’s the timestamps:
00:00 The Frame Matters More Than the Picture
07:33 You Don’t Get to Choose What You Believe
21:29 Why Self Respect is So Important
35:12 Most People Strategise Instead of Executing
47:51 Are You Driven or Being Dragged?
58:54 The Loneliness & Hedonism of Elite Achievers
1:06:30 Why You Need to Sweat the Small Stuff
1:15:09 Do the Thing
1:19:28 Pressure is a Great Privilege
1:25:02 Steven’s Experience Becoming a Person of Public Interest
1:35:49 Do Our Beliefs Limit Us?
1:41:42 Context Is Worth More Than Skills
1:46:25 How to Avoid the Trap of Mono-Thinking
1:58:12 Fame Changes Everybody Around You
2:06:20 Where to Find Steven
YEW ! Thank you so much for this INCREDIBLE CONVERSATION 🙏🏼 so much love for the work both of you contribute to this world 🌎🙏🏼🙏🏼
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Thank you so much for having me brother 👊🏾 hope people got value from our chat x
6:24 it would be worth trialing UHD, UltraHD, 2160p and others to see how they compare for click through rates. 4K is recognisable but also common.
YEW !!! Thank you BOTH for INSPIRING my EVOLUTION 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I am enjoying this episode, I watch DOAC a lot, and I wanted Steven to be interviewed 🙌🏻🙌🏻
absolute banger , like a Fred again show!
Fantastic, helpful content, and the production quality of the video is epic. Thanks for creating this, Chris, and for sharing your wisdom, Steven.
"The magic you are looking for is the work your avoiding" that is the best quote I have ever heard, resonating hard on that.
Sameee! This was one of the best bits of the episode for me
Where was this quote?
That is exactly that resonated with me and I know it is 💯 true
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I felt exactly the same way. It's echoing in my head and trying to pinpoint all the things I'm avoiding and scared of, so I know exactly where to start.
These guys operate on a whole different level when they are together. Need more.
1000%
facts . both of them are locked in .
Its feels like a change in ones own brainwaves 1 min after they started talking.
Yes.
absolutely :)
I think the quote Steven was referring to at 28:28 is “If you want to learn something, read about it. If you want to understand something, write about it. If you want to master something, teach it.”
These guys are wise beyond their years. It’s taken me three decades of adulthood to piece together just fractions of all these insights. Young people today don’t appreciate the ease of access to this wealth of insight
Oh were digesting as much as we can we can make a library of alexandria here lets goooo boys!!!
The road to sustained failure is the inability to fulfill commitments to yourself. Brilliant.
This!
What's really refreshing is to hear two young men being honest and transparent about the dichotomy of success and suffering.
Steven is one of the smartest people on TH-cam and his interviews are mind-blowing. Whoever he's interviewing seems to be on the same intellectual level and he's interviewing the elite of mankind.
56:30 The Lonely Chapter. I listened to this bit twice because it is exactly what I am going through right now and it was such a relief to hear that this is something normal and something a lot of others go through when they decide that they need to break out of their comfort zone. Thank you Chris, invaluable episode!
Aka the dark night of the soul… interesting to think some high achievers never leave it….
I agree with this I’m currently expanding into looking for new friends as I just graduated from school and there’s an unsaid thing about wanting to leaving and knowing well I’ve always had a loneliness chapter
I went through this in 2008.
Followed by a dark night of the soul.
It is a threshold.
If you don't back out and survive it, you will really have something.
I'm going through this right now. Super focused on crypto and building my portfolio. None of my friends are into it but they're happy with their 9 to 5 lifes, but Im trying to get out of it.
Steven is such a great listener - that could be the reason that he is so insightful and fastly grasps the meaning of a topic. Loved to see him get interviewed. Even more impressive that he is one of the podcasters that will give his guests the space, holds it and only adds to the person he is interviewing without interrupting or trying to hard to lead the way of the conversation.
Also added few questions in return. Totally enjoyable!
I wish
I could be so patient
for an answer 🙌🙌
Steven is just what we need to listen to!! Awesome
He still wants to learn 😍amazing attitude
Marvellous topics & so inspiring
What a priviledge to be listening to this conversation. It’s like listening to a dance. Impossible yet it exists.
17:35 if you're struggling with low self confidence, low self esteem, feel stuck or that you're going nowhere , THIS part is a must listen. It's about making and keeping your own commitments to yourself.
Incredible episode, absolutely love both of you ❤️
Love you too
There’s so much complex valuable information in these podcasts I have to watch them like 5 times before I feel like I’m doing them justice.
when you're talking about production quality and then it cut to the wide view of you guys sitting so close to eachother it made me smile. Wasn't expecting it. Love you guys thank you for what you're doing
This was very interesting to listen to. You rarely get to listen to Steven talk since he is usually the host but I learned a lot from his insights. Thank you Chris for this interesting interview.
“Game recognizes game.” Dude, excellent way to wrap that up. Love you both, keep it up
I’m time stamping the story of Chris Eubanks Jr at 23:00 because it’s so powerful. I have a habit of starting off strong, but have a tendency to slow down towards the end. I need to get better and I will. Thanks for this bit.
WOW two of my favorite podcasters together. This conversation was amazing, one of the best I’ve ever heard.
Who is Chris Williamson? First I’ve heard of him, came here cuz of SBartlett…
i want this line: The Magic You are Looking for is in the Work You are AVOIDING 🤯 time line plz
As a 66 year old bloke who, by my own admission, hasn't done a lot of value in my life that I can be proud of, I find this interview in particular, but Chris's interviews and content generally to be a wonderful source of support. Self respect hit home here and the commitment to myself which I have been a spectacular failure at. I still don't understand how I've managed to be where I am as one of the more fortunate people in the world at the moment with mostly first world problems that I do my best to keep to myself. Thanks for providing such valuable information for the rest of us to draw inspiration from. Still many more years left to learn for me.
Bartlett is great both as interviewer AND interviewee!
2 of my FAVOURITE PODCASTERS in the ONE EPISODE 🔥🔥 LES GOH !
So much GOLD from this conversation. I took so much notes and gave me new ideas on the bigger picture of my life and what steps to take next. Especially about the part about driven by principle and curiosity, loneliness - the real stuff! These guys know what they’re talking about and have been through it all.
I agree, this talk was bloody excellent!
Would you be willing to share your notes 🙏
Thanks!
This feels like watching a really pro tennis match. You both return the ball so swiftly, intensely, deep & sharp. I stop to check if it’s in normal speed or I accidentally roll it in 1.25 speed. As this is so so good. LOL. Originally listen to this before bed to sleep but it wakes me up instead. MORE PLEASE!
I hardly ever leave comments these days, but wanted to say how great this episode was, natural and truly insightful conversation. If this was the only one, I'd be content. Another one would be a privilege 🙏🏽
Subscribed 6 months ago. The worst part of my day is driving to work. This has become my favourite part of the day. Love listening to Chris and his guests.
1:00:40 "You've already achieved goals that you said would make you happy". Love this quote❤
Good evening Chris and Steven
No words without sounding like a Granny and a Mum. In this wee moment.
Just to say, my wonderful young adult kids should be paying attention to both your work, more than their Mum. I do continue to recommend though!
But admittedly I have gained so much from your shared work and associated guests you converse with, whom share their experience and knowledge.
Has been a lot of everything nearly, I have required over passing couple of years. Tough times!
So wow, loving this.
Grateful.
Truly.
💜
I don’t know the last time I felt the way I feel right now after listening to these two. The insights given in this interview are - without exaggeration - life-changing. Thank you Chris & Steven. Wow. Replaying this again. Please reunite in the future. Much continued success to both, keep leading by example.
This was a 12/10 level conversation
"The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding" (30:07) Such a powerful quote. 👏 Thank you ❤
There is some magic made with these two guys being together! Nicely done!
39:26 this is electric. Also, you both like Fred again and see his greatness. Two very intelligent and inspiring individuals. Thank you for sharing.
This man is briliant
Steven's comment of how he chooses his tight circle for feedback is soooooooo resonating. Love that answer.
Chris never listened to one of your podcast before but listens to Steven’s - you two together are dynamic so interesting it felt like you were having a conversation in your living room about what each of you have learned and we were just there in the background catching pieces of wisdom from two masters.
Is a bit special - so much wisdom.
“Losing the insecurities and the shame that are dragging you doesn’t dissolve your ambition. It dissolves your fake ambition and creates room for your real ambitions.”
Pure gold right there.
This chat was great gents. Two great orators of todays podcast world simply chatting and letting us in the room 🙏🏼
Insanely intellectual, deep with hard core transparency and vulnerability with such young men! Bravo!
I’ve bought both of Steven’s books and I can listen to this man talk for hours. So much knowledge and a simple way to convey it 😊
Lol best buy self Stevens books very inspirational man intriguing
1:34:09 - that level of stress & pain is so debilitating, and only folks who experience it, can truly understand! Steven, thank you for being transparent and honest about your experiences & emotions. 💪🏽. That takes a lot of vulnerability & strength!
One of the best podcasts for self improvement out there, so much value between these two modern gems. Thank you for blessing us all with your wisdom! 🙏
The abundance of takeaways from this piece of content are so well materialized in communication they might as well be tangible. No words could adequately express the fulfillment I experienced watching this episode. With currently working through a rut, hearing this conversation was immensely beneficial so as a committed listener of both of your works, thank you.
I think this is your best podcast episode yet chris. Feels like two friends on a hike chatting.... 10/10
Twenty minutes in an I am already touched deeply. I need to keep my word to myself and have that compound. Thank you Chris! Your podcast will always keep me engaged and learning.
You can’t choose your beliefs, until you realize that you can influence them.. she wasn’t using hypnosis alone, but regression therapy based on attachment and psychodynamic theory.. other than that fine point, love this talk!!
Hey just wanted to say thank you so much for this. I've been really struggling this year as have many I'm sure. Background of childhood abuse/neglect etc. Recent major depressive episode and a lack of self confidence that has been with me my whole life. Anyway although I've always been into exercise and eating well and positivity, etc. this year something changed and I took the short slide right down into the happy ball pit of hell. Suicide attempt, lost my job, the whole nine yards. But today... I got up early and went for a long walk (haven't gone for one in ages), planned my day out, took care of business and adhered to today's goals. I feel so much better. I feel like maybe I can do this. As a small reward to myself after dinner, I had some carrot cake lol (one of the best things to exist!), but only ate half instead of the whole thing like I usually do. I'm a huge pot smoker, but have decided to only smoke on the weekend instead of every damn night lol. My sleep last night was much better and I feel more energy already. Thanks for this encouraging video guys! I feel like I can do this. WE can do this! Don't give up! Everyone deserves to give themselves another chance. Cheers!
I’m going through something similar - a life crisis involving losing my beloved home & workplace & life as I knew & loved it. I know how much it takes to break the pattern of self-sabotaging behaviour & am inspired by your productive day.
Keep going, life IS worth living though we sometimes can’t see it. And know that you are not alone. I am walking your painful path too as we speak ❤️🙏🏻
Sounds like you’re learning (teaching yourself, to be more precise) how to be your own best cheerleader instead of your own worst critic!
Best of luck to you 🙌🏾
Hey there I hope your doing better give yourself many chances if you stumble get up and give yourself a chance again and again long walking episodes I've found are great for clearing your mind and upping your energy levels a day at a time wishing you every happiness❤
Does anyone else feel like they never had a giant motivation on why they took their life path? No feelings of proving anyone wrong or themselves right? Anyone else just wake up and do the best they can?
Thank you Chris and Stephen gave us such a wonderful episode. Both of you are my heroes.
Dear Chris , I would like you to associate people who held opposite views to your views. This will sharpen your curiosity .
Stephen do as you are doing now this is best we like from you as spectator.
Man what a episode! 🤯 been waiting and wanting another pod with Steven as a guest and especially on the modern wisdom podcast! You two have climbed to the top 2 spots in my favorite list of podcasts to listen to and it will be because of you 2 guys that I start my own podcast with the goal of eventually turning into a full time position, and one day willingly and hopefully meet you both and manifesting you both as a guest on my podcast!
The lonely chapter…
Thank you for shining a spotlight on a period of my life that has been so difficult to articulate to others. The transition between the person you were and the person you are meant to be is one of solitude - a time to reflect on the past and map out a path for your next journey.
Brene Brown’s words were so instrumental in my ability to reach the shore when drifting alone with my thoughts, insecurities and fears…
“I know what it means to stand alone and brave the criticism, fear and hurt. I know the freedom of belonging everywhere and nowhere at all. The reward is great, but the price is high. I have made this quest and I have the scars to prove it. It’s the paradox of feeling alone but also strong”.
Your conversation has been a refreshing perspective on our mutual struggles. Thank you for sharing!
Surrendering maybe the key - not giving up or loosing as we've been programmed to believe, but to surrender to your task at hand like Artists/musicians who create Master pieces &
surrendering to a heart felt hug - the energy flows ❤
Both of these guys have saved so many lives. Absolutely amazing gentlemen.
Whose life have they saved, real question. What do you mean?
Thanks
I love listening to both of you individually, together is magic. With regards to commitments that you keep with yourself, Steven Covey junior’s book “the speed of trust” talks about the first layer of building trust and keeping promises to yourself. That’s my favorite book - thanks again gents for a episode!!
I love that book
Steven Covey also talks about integrity (keeping commitments) in The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People.
Ive listen to this more than once and will continue. It inspires me in so many ways to change, to be better, to understand how to move forward in a more productive way. It’s the best podcast I’ve listened to.
Bartlett is right about us being ruled by our beliefs, but dead wrong about our being unable to change our beliefs.
After decades of conscious, intentional struggle, one thought at a time, I can honestly say that the contents of my mind are completely different from what they were when I started, to the extent that the 25 year old version of myself would not be able to in any way believe that he would grow into the person I am today, and would have absolutely no grid for understanding my motivations.
Not only that, but I'm able to drop my entire thought and feeling process at will, and simply be with what is.
So, don't believe that you can't change your beliefs.
BTW, The hardest part by far is choosing what to believe.
Your conscious intentional struggle presented you with new evidence about yourself which is what Steven was actually talking about. He never said that it's impossible to change beliefs. Interesting how we can hear the same thing differently...:) Your journey sounds amazing and expansive.... more power to you ❤
Thanks!
This discussion was amazing!!! None of my friends are entrepreneurs and don’t understand what you go through. I felt so included in the conversation. I’ve been a Stephen subscriber for the past year, and now I am subscribed to Chris 🎉🎉
The way Steven grasps knowledge, processes it and explain it just speaks to every cell in my being. I don’t think whoever is interviewing him has the same mental wisdom though, constantly intercepting the conversation, pivoting the conversation to what he wants it to mean and more importantly the part where he said “you will have to let go of the team you had when you started” when you grow assumes that while you grow, other people remain in the same place and it’s highly arrogant, I loved the way Steven rebutted that.
This episode was so content dense with the back and fourth conversations being so eloquently put that I had to keep rewinding to just grasp a concept that seemed to be delivered so effortlessly. I absolutely love watching two people who are genuinely passionate about the pursuit of knowledge discuss ideas and concepts in such a professional manner, but what else can you expect from two of the best podcasters out there!
Much love from South Africa mate! ♥️💪🇿🇦
34:32 I have thought about this so often and I really think it is both. A lot of wisdom comes with age for sure but some comes from our own deliberate searching.
I feel like a lot is yet to be seen though... we are in a new era where wisdom like this is so wide spread and more accessible to younger people than it would have ever been before. In the past I don't think elders shared their wisdom with younger generations so much, they just lived it and expected the youth to figure a lot out on their own. In some cases it was even taboo to talk on certain topics (eg Puberty/PMS/Consummation/Mental health/Abuse/PTSD etc)
Brilliant brilliant chat. Thank you both for bringing so much knowledge and inspiration, and especially for showing us also your vulnerabile side, which gives hope to many of us grinding to get there. ❤️
I absolutely love you both so much. While I was listening to you speak, I thought of my daughter who said to me one day as I was "procrastinating," studying for an exam said Mom you need to protect your future self... what would she do? So, I now use this in my daily life especially when I don't feel like taking a shower, meal-prepping for the week, or pre-making coffee for the next day. I am a full-time nursing student and work on some days is really trying, however, her words like yours mean so much and I am watching and taking notes. Ty xoxo ~ J :)
Two people whom influenced my life like no-one did! Thank you!
I want to see these podcasts go on for the next 10 years, it’s the ultimate interview/ knowledge dispersal format
I just bought your book today Steven The Diary of the CEO it's an absolute Gem I follow everything you do I've learned so much my mindset is amazing...
Thank you brother
By far, the best and in the flow conversation I have listened to in quite some time. So many gems in it, so many truths, so much wisdom. Thank you Chris and Steven for being authentic, curious and willing to share your process and internal progress with us ❤ having a face to face conversation with both of you goes into my bucket list 😊
Shoutout to Chris for highlighting Steven’s traps with lighting 💪🏽
Commitment to self helps me a lot! I’m a HIGHLY warm person.. I’m amazing at doing things for everyone else, my friends, family (with boundaries) and they would do the same for me.. however when it comes to doing for myself… BLANK! .. I wake up everyday and say how can can I show up with COMPETENCE for myself when no one’s watching today! It helps a lot!! Xx
How many people immediately went and looked at the 4k in the title of this video 😂
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Ahahahaa me!!
Me😂😂😂😂
So many gems of wisdom- found this podcast addictive listened to it everywhere I went this afternoon - just couldn’t put it down till it finished! Brilliant observations, insights, advice etc etc etc! Love the honesty and integrity of the whole thing 👍
This the fastest seen Steven B. Go on a rant. But then again he is the one being interviewed this time. Has allot to contribute for sure!
Steven is talking too fast lol
Had no idea he had that agility in talking about something. Normally he reserved very strategic in questions asked. He had to be on his feet for Chris.
One of the coolest podcasts I've seen. You can literally see these two learning from each other in real time
Best podcast I’ve listened to, been a real eye opener for me. So many lessons and ways that I can improve that I’ve been able to take from this. Thank you.
Wisdom is a by-product of experience and what we choose to learn from it.
great episode! Nice to hear and see Steven as a guest for a change. Think of all the things hes heard. Imagine the wisdom he hold now, and will gain in decades from now. Hes on track to being more famous then he could imagine.
2:57
_so the frame that we place around our experience largely determines our experience!_
what a powerful insight bro!
Thank you Chris, thank you Steven, you and your work change my life daily, and if its only mentally.
Respect to you, appreciate your hard work and for being a rolemodel for me.
Chris, when you talked about the existence wherein you constantly expose yourself to new ideas and relate that to constantly going to dinner with interesting people (31:46), please realize that this is what you are doing with this podcast. Thank you for posting these conversations. In so doing you are providing that opportunity to myself and others.
If this episode was 34hrs long I'd get hospitalised in 2 days.
Awesome chat gentlemen.
My 2 favorite pholisophers conversating.
Golden wisdom.
Driven or dragged.
Carrot or stick.
Inspired or motivated.
Positive or negative stimuli.
Love or fear.
One of the highest quality interviews I’ve watched. It was an insightful back and forth! Thank you for the deliverables and takeaways with a lot of the topics gentlemen
These 2 together could re-shape the world. What an intense, enlightening, inspiring and highly intellectual conversation. Really enjoyed it.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🖼️ The frame matters more than the picture. How you present something significantly affects its perceived value and desirability.
07:37 🤔 You do not get to choose what you believe. Beliefs are often shaped by evidence and experiences, and changing them requires encountering new evidence or interpretations.
11:05 🧠 Beliefs can be influenced by hypnosis, where new evidence and interpretations are introduced, challenging existing beliefs.
15:32 🤝 Prejudice and bias can be context-dependent, and even self-prejudice can impact our performance and self-esteem.
18:16 🤷♂️ It's more socially acceptable to be self-critical than to be self-encouraging, which can affect self-esteem and personal development.
18:45 📅 Keeping commitments to yourself is essential for self-esteem and personal growth. The size of the commitment you keep when no one is watching affects your self-esteem and self-story.
22:17 💪 Controlling your actions, like not picking up your phone before a morning walk, is an effective way to influence your thoughts and feelings positively.
24:10 🤝 Not keeping commitments to yourself can have a profound impact on your self-image and trust in yourself, leading to a downward commitment spiral.
29:58 🚀 Mastery and innovation often come from deep practice and commitment to your craft. Practitioners understand their field at a fundamental level.
34:43 💡 To gain wisdom and expertise, go out and fail at something valuable while being deeply passionate about it. The magic often lies in the work you avoid.
37:57 🔑 Discipline equation: Discipline equals the importance of the goal to you plus the psychological enjoyment you get from pursuing the goal, minus the psychological cost of pursuing the goal. This equation helps assess your motivation and discipline.
43:43 🔑 Insecurity and shame can be powerful drivers of ambition and motivation. Many people are driven or dragged by these emotions, leading to their success.
50:30 🔑 Losing fake ambitions driven by insecurity can make room for real, intrinsically motivated ambitions that align with your values and bring true fulfillment.
53:19 🔑 Early in your journey, pain, often driven by past experiences or insecurities, can fuel your motivation and drive to succeed. Thisinitial drive is essential for overcoming activation energy.
56:08 🔑 The "Lonely Chapter" is a phase in personal development where you outgrow your old circle of friends due to your pursuit of new goals. This phase can be challenging but is essential for personal growth and finding like-minded individuals.
57:01 💪 High performers often go through a lonely chapter when leaving their comfortable tribe, but this loneliness can be a necessary part of personal growth and success.
59:04 🌟 People fundamentally struggle with feeling different and not feeling like they're enough, which can lead to feelings of loneliness and unhappiness.
01:02:05 🎙️ Building for the long-term is crucial in business and life, and thinking of endeavors as infinite games can lead to sustainable success and a lasting impact.
01:04:55 📈 Retaining key talent, often referred to as disciples, is essential for maintaining a strong organizational culture and momentum.
01:09:37 🔍 Sweating the small stuff is vital for success, as small decisions and actions compound over time, whether in business, personal life, or relationships.
01:15:11 📝 The only way to accomplish a task is by actually doing it; preparation, scheduling, or talking about it won't suffice.
01:17:06 🌟 We are motivated by the avoidance of discomfort more than the pursuit of pleasure, which often leads to procrastination.
01:19:39 💪 Embrace pressure as a privilege for growth; it's essential to challenge yourself and face difficulties.
01:22:27 🤔 Your interpretation of pressure and discomfort shapes how you experience and cope with them.
01:28:09 🚫 Limit the feedback and scrutiny you expose yourself to, keeping your focus on your core principles and avoiding unnecessary distractions.
01:33:44 🧊 Running a business can be incredibly stressful, with the pressure of payroll and financial challenges being more daunting than dealing with media or public attention.
01:34:27 💡 The cost of success varies, whether it's the loss of privacy like Drake or the stress of running a business like Ben. Different endeavors have different costs.
01:35:23 🚀 Deep expertise can lead to rigidity. Innovators often come from unconventional backgrounds, unburdened by conventional thinking.
01:37:15 🔄 Circles we draw around ourselves can limit our potential. Believing in self-imposed limits can prevent us from realizing our true capabilities.
01:47:27 🧠 Avoid "mono thinking," where one ideology defines all your beliefs. Embrace nuance and resist being pigeonholed into a single ideology.
01:52:07 🧠 People often avoid conversations with those who disagree with them because it challenges their identity and creates cognitive dissonance.
01:53:18 📚 Exposing yourself to content you disagree with can be valuable for gaining new perspectives and insights.
01:54:55 💡 When you see strong beliefs in others that you find absurd, it can make you question your own beliefs and their fragility.
01:55:24 🤔 Challenging the beliefs that define your identity can lead to self-discovery and a deeper understanding of who you truly are.
01:57:56 🇬🇧 In the UK, there is a strong pull to conform, which can stifle individuality, innovation, and motivation.
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Im a big fan of both Chris and Steven and was sooo happy to find this intelligent conversation between my two favourite podcasters! 🥰 I think you two should have a once a year podcast recording to catch up on all the insightful ideas you've learned since your last chat! It really is decades worth of wisdom condensed into a couple of hours and will resonate so much with what struggles people are going through in their daily lives. Thank you for being the wonderful men that you are and giving us 'pause for thought' and ideas about so many topics. X
I love the mutual respect between the two of them.
Given they both invited each other on their shows.
24:34 not even ½ through and this is already the best podcast!!!!! Steven and Chris need to go on tour with Jordan!!!!
You both are so impressive and the ease with which you delivered and bounced off of each other, during the video was so complimentary and engaging. So much of what you spoke about confirmed what I am feeling, going through, and doing, and more importantly I learned so much about myself. I need more of these illuminating conversations. It's absolutely invaluable. Kudos to you both and your teams who put it all together.
to everyone who is watching this video. May your life be filled with boundless abundance and prosperity! May opportunities flow your way, and success be your constant companion. Here's to a future brimming with wealth and joy. Keep believing in your dreams and working towards them. You've got this! 💗
Would you ever consider having Scott Mannion as a guest? He is an English writer, and professional film director who won the Au Directors Guild award awhile back. He used to live in LA for a time but left the evils of the Hollywood scene, returned to his native England to forge a dissident rebellion called the "Greenwood' publication. I would say what he tries to do is to rekindle the spirit of what art and literature ought to be. He does a great deal more than even what I can describe in a short paragraph. I just thought he would be a great addition to your already well chosen list of guests because he is witty, intelligent, accomplished, and most of all...he's a fellow Englishman. Cheers Chris, glad to see you doing so well! By the way, I never miss any of your news letters!
Good luck. I hope we can all avoid the hyper individualisation but not ignore all the good wisdom.
I’ve been waiting for this Chris! Bravo! Best two podcasters on TH-cam
I’m only 19 min in and I’m so excited about this conversation. I work in mental health and FRAMEWORK aka how you narrate YOUR story is filter for how you see yourself and the world
Having almost finished Steven’s book this is great timing and a great follow up.
If you haven’t I’d really urge you to do so, it’s insightful, thought provoking and inspiring 🙌🏻
Which one? They mentioned two.
The Diary of a CEO - The 33 Laws of Business & Life@@stvbrsn This book aligns so much to this entire conversation. Very timely indeed!
The combined knowledge both the speakers shared is beyond measure and should be in a book. Thanks for the great collaboration!
By the end of this podcast, I think this is a perfect example of Worthy Rival that Simon Sinek is talking about in his "infinite game" book.
Great episode!
swearing puts me off, I know we are adults but my kid walks in sometimes to hear the f word! why??
Thank you! This has brought me an understanding as to why I am so different, and the clarity to work toward coping with the somewhat permanent "lonely chapter."
Same! 👍 As a 57 year old single, divorced, child-free woman, who's a carer for my elderly parents, I can't see my solitude status changing.
Such a great podcast, so much to learn from . Listen to you both regularly