Robust Tools' Scraper Review: NRS and Traditional.... with Sam Angelo

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  • Sam puts two Robust Tool scrapers through their paces. He looks at tool steel, using the tools in end grain AND cross-grain work, and covers some examples of why each is used in various situations.
    He also briefly touches on his way of making a tool handle that will hold securely a rectangular tang: see the link below for a full video on this topic.
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:30 First look at the scrapers
    00:41 Scope of the video: making a handle-testing the tools
    01:45 Tool Specs
    02:25 Sharpening, bevels, and tool angles
    10:13 Cutting on cross-grain and tool presentation
    28:27 Cutting on end-grain-lidded container
    33:55 Conclusion and recommendations (all positive)
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  • @davidqualls7651
    @davidqualls7651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks it was great to see a demo showing both types of scrapers and the pros and cons. David in Clev.

  • @trurex007lee7
    @trurex007lee7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the explanations on the differences. A “jingle” to help remember where my tool rest should be, “down and out” for the outside,the inside is the opposite.

  • @alanmullock381
    @alanmullock381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good tutorial on scrapers Sam!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎

  • @jackthompson5092
    @jackthompson5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great tutorial on scrapers Sam. Thanks a lot.

  • @robutzinger2749
    @robutzinger2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tips for scraper and neg rake. Next paycheck I’ll get a neg rake.

  • @jimbalz3017
    @jimbalz3017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very instructive. thank you.

  • @carolriley8472
    @carolriley8472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of really good info, Sam...thanks!

  • @joelspring2487
    @joelspring2487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation and comparisons, Thank You

  • @michaeldennison3548
    @michaeldennison3548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work Sam!! Very informative. Still learning how best to use my scrapers.

  • @daveb.misc.2589
    @daveb.misc.2589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well explained Sam. Those Robust scrapers look to be nice tools. Thanks for sharing the info!

  • @tick_magnetedschaper5611
    @tick_magnetedschaper5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like I have not been sharpening my negative rake scraper enough. Back to the grinder I go. Thanks Sam!

  • @dannyboy9784
    @dannyboy9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video explaining when and how to use them.....Cheers

  • @joehimes9898
    @joehimes9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you

  • @dougsutherland6694
    @dougsutherland6694 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative Sam!

  • @masjabrikdiy8422
    @masjabrikdiy8422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello friends greetings healthy and successful always. thank you for sharing knowledge and always faithfully watching your latest things @

  • @dougrobins8291
    @dougrobins8291 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was just right. I've been using a traditional scraper for the inside of my bowls but having trouble with it when getting close to the top. I've tried tilting it by about 20 degrees, but even with that have had a catch. I will certainly get a negative rake scraper, as it looks like it should give better control on the inside of the bowl, near the top. Thanks for the tips!

  • @davidmorgan7522
    @davidmorgan7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review of the scrapers Sam. But mostly the great explanation and showing the uses for the scrapers. Thanks for sharing!
    Take care, Dave

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These are really nice tools.... be safe. Oh, by the way, I spoke to our board last week when we met, they would be happy to have you do a club demo for them. Our club is struggling to get members to do demos (besides me and one or two others). It would be fun. Sam

    • @davidmorgan7522
      @davidmorgan7522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WYOMINGWOODTURNER Thanks Sam! We'll work something out.
      Dave

  • @davidbaulch3223
    @davidbaulch3223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work, Sam. Personally, I have found if I have any torn grain my scrapers, negative or traditional, have a tendency to make that worse and not repair my error. Tool marks seem to come out fairly well, though.

    • @DancingFox6
      @DancingFox6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes if I have tear out especially around where a branch was growing I find it helpful to reverse the direction of the turning and scrape or cut from the back side. (Of course I use screws to secure jaws or faceplate to the lathe)

    • @davidbaulch3223
      @davidbaulch3223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DancingFox6 Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't - for me, at least. I will try it again next time I am doing a major bowl turning - probably coming up very shortly, I'm guessing.

  • @markjupina178
    @markjupina178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information Sam. Why not use negative rake exclusively for every application?

  • @GeraldJensen
    @GeraldJensen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you restore the burr on these scrapers with a burnishing tool like the one Alan Lacer uses? Love those handles!

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gerald, yes you can. Back in the day.....I used card scrapers a lot. They are, as you probably know, sharpened in a different way. But we can use a burnisher or a hone to establish a burr or restore the burr. My thought it just takes longer and more effort than just going back to the grinder. AND, these burrs can be worn away so quickly. Regards Sam

  • @ralphvanpelt1356
    @ralphvanpelt1356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video explaining scrapers. Why did you use a spindle gouge instead of a bowl gouge on the outside of the bowl and what is the purpose of using the mineral oil on the “fuzz” as you called it. Thanks again, I enjoy and learn from all of your videos.

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ralph, this is a 5/8 inch spindle gouge. It is very large and works fine for the outside of the bowl in this video. There is nothing wrong with using a spindle gouge on a bowl. Or a bowl gouge on a spindle turning. Just don't use a spindle roughing gouge on cross grain work. I used Mineral oil to stabilize the wood fibers so they would cut more smoothly. SAM

    • @ralphvanpelt1356
      @ralphvanpelt1356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WYOMINGWOODTURNER thank you

  • @dicktorkildson9752
    @dicktorkildson9752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Sam always helpful. So what's your take on wheel grit and burr serrations for a truly smooth cut? Higher grit # for less serrated a burr and smoother cut?

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you are correct. The higher grit wheel will produce a cleaner cut from the burr but the burr will wear off easily. I always use my coarser wheel: 80 grit. Sam

  • @roomold9531
    @roomold9531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good scraper presentation. Is your burr straight off the 80 grit cbn?

  • @williamdodds6104
    @williamdodds6104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sam got a question, I am having some issues with torn end grain (furry spots) did I hear you say something about mineral oil for that?

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      William, I just saw your inquiry for a turning class. I sent you an email. To your question about mineral oil: The mineral oil will help stabilize the end-grain and help prevent tear out. You could just use water or use the finish you intend to put on the item like linseed oil or even shellac. Nothing magical about mineral oil-but it is a little heavier than water. Sam

  • @pthsdo
    @pthsdo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This may be a silly question... could you profile one side as traditional scraper and the other (flip the tool) as negative scraper? Since only the left side of tool is most often used anyway.

    • @WYOMINGWOODTURNER
      @WYOMINGWOODTURNER  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is not a silly Q' I think it is really creative-you may have invented a million dollar tool idea. Who knows. I think it is possible. I would imagine that it might be left to an engineer to figure out how to do it. If you have a tool to experiment with, you could try to make one. Better yet, make one from a piece of wood. I think making the transition might be the challenge. It may look a little weird but might work. Good luck. Sam

  • @mdjabedsyllhet8949
    @mdjabedsyllhet8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need a job this can you give me a job your company please sir