Gilgamesh had three parents. The belief in the divinity of royal lines was maintained by the concept that the king was possessed by a god on the night that he begot the next king. In this way each king is both the son of his father (the last king) and a god. In the case of Gilgamesh his mother was also a goddess. So he had two parents who were gods and one parent who was mortal making him 2/3rds divine.
@@RoderickEtheria Um Actually Gilgamesh had three parents. The belief in the divinity of royal lines was maintained by the concept that the king was possessed by a god on the night that he begot the next king. In this way each king is both the son of his father (the last king) and a god. In the case of Gilgamesh his mother was also a goddess. So he had two parents who were gods and one parent who was mortal making him 2/3rds divine. hehe gottit
Um, actually, if his father was 1/3 god in this way and that father before him, etc, that would converge to the kings being half god pretty quickly. By the 3rd generation, they're already more than 48% god. If his father was approximately half god, his mother was a god, and he had a 3rd god parent, he would not be 2/3 god. It would be more like 83%, by my math.
to elaborate on Baldur's death, while yes Hodr killed him with a mistletoe arrow (in some versions a spear, others a dart, in all cases mistletoe) it was only because Loki tricked him into doing it specifically because Hodr is blind (if I'm not mistaken) it was considered a great passtime in Valhalla to throw weapons at Baldur because he was immune to all damage and Loki gave him this mistletoe projectile and guided his hand
IIRC, the reason mistletoe could kill him is that his death was prophesied and his mother, Frigg, went around the world extracting promises from everything- and I mean EVERYTHING- that they wouldn't harm her son. Unfortunately, she forgot to get the promise from mistletoe.
Mythology/folklore is extremely tricky to do something like “Um, Actually” on (as the comments show) there are multiple versions of different myths that are equally valid from a modern standpoint
@@bobdole4916 or, hell, just the labor of Heracles where he slayed the Lernean Hydra. How many heads did it have to start? Was it one head? Three heads? _Nine heads?_ Did its heads regenerate? Was only one head immortal and capable of regeneration? How many heads grew back at a time if it _did_ regrow them? 1? 2? 3? Was Iolaus involved with killing it? Did Heracles cauterize the wounds to prevent regrowth, or just trap one of the heads under a rock?? There are _so_ many versions of that _one_ myth that literally every situation I described above is true in some versions and false in others. And that's just one creature in one _small_ part of _one_ myth.
Little known fact: The Epic of Gilgamesh was followed up by a sequel, "Gilgamesh 2: Tokyo Drift", where Gilgamesh goes to Japan. In one scene, he kills the Yamata no Orochi in a sick street race.
@@StarkMaximum It happens after he went into the Dimensional Drift, when he actually ended up beating Humbaba again (well, he helped Terra wins, but same thing...)
Medusa being the only mortal gorgon sounds like propaganda from the other two. After Medusa got killed they just sent out the word that Medusa was definitely the only mortal one, no use trying to kill us, we can’t be killed. Yep, we’re immortal, definitely not making this up because folks found a way to kill one of us.
I think in atleast some mythologies she was a human vestal virgin that got raped by Areis (I think) and then Athena turned her into a gorgon so no man would try to harm her again
@@Atomsk359 If I'm not mistaken, and maybe it varies from myth to myth, but I think Medusa was raped by Poseidon. I also think in some myths, Athena doesn't turn her into Medusa for her protection, but actually as a punishment for having the audacity to get raped in her shrine or temple or whatever
@@gamerdio2503 all versions where Medusa started as a human come from a version written by a Roman poet Ovid. Ovid was banished from his city and because of it developed a problem with authority so he rewrote many Greek myths to purposely make the gods seem like assholes (or even more of an asshole) as a form of political and social commentary/propaganda. No version of the story predating Ovid has Medusa ever being human. So while your free to reference or use that story if you want it should be kept in mind that it was written that way for a very specific purpose and not by a Greek writer.
@@Atomsk359 all versions where Medusa started as a human come from a version written by a Roman poet Ovid. Ovid was banished from his city and because of it developed a problem with authority so he rewrote many Greek myths to purposely make the gods seem like assholes (or even more of an asshole) as a form of political and social commentary/propaganda. No version of the story predating Ovid has Medusa ever being human. So while your free to reference or use that story if you want it should be kept in mind that it was written that way for a very specific purpose and not by a Greek writer.
Um, actually there is an Asian species of tapir - found in south-east Asia - known as the Malayan tapir. It's entirely possible that East Asian explorers came across these animals and inspired the legend of the dream-eating Baku.
Um, actually... in the fun banter at 19:30 , it's mentioned that Loki is Odin's son, but in Norse mythology he is Odin's brother. Marvel has confused us again between actual mythology and the MCU 😊
Um actually, Odin and Loke is not brothers either. They’re sometimes called «blood brothers» but this is just a reference to the fact that they allegedly swore a blood oath to eachother due to beng close friends/allies. :)
@@BichaeldeAngelo Um actually, Loki's mother was Laufey the Jotunn. And since as far as I know nothing in the games has been changed about Odin's parent's, since Odin is also part Jotunn, they are related. But the real um actually is indeed that Odin and Loki are blood brothers: unrelated persons who swore to be eachothers brother while sealing the oath with blood
fun story cockatrice is also sometimes refered to as a basilisk which means that when the legend says that baba yagas hut has basilisk legs it actually just has big chicken legs
That's actually a matter of controversy. Some myth structures say basilisks and cockatrices are the same thing, some say they are not. In general, Cockatrices are always the Rooster/snake (actually a dragon) mix, while basilisks can be more wholly serpentine (think of the Basilisk in Harry Potter.)
A basalisk is a chicken egg hatched beneath a toad but a cockatrice is an egg specially laid by a male chicken, or a cock, hatched beneath a toad. Idk how a cock lays an egg or if that makes them rarer or what. Seems really pedantic since both turn stuff to stone.
@@ZeroTooL88 Fowl are among the species capable of naturally changing sex in extreme isolation (Which almost always happens MtF but I don't remember the specific case of Fowl).
@@ZeroTooL88 On occasion, due to hormone issues, elderly roosters WILL develop and egg like growth under the breast bone. And, of course, there is always the occasional hermaphrodite chicken.
@@andrewrawlings5220 isn't that a great one? The stories themselves are ancient, told many many times, but the way he found to re-tell them was really nice.
in the spirit of technical pedantry, some english scientists in england thought that, researchers in Australia had seen them alive and knew they were real, and other scientists in england held it to be real. Plus, bonus fun fact, its actually called the duckbilled platypus because theres another creature called the platypus, a beetle from new zealand
They got that backwards, the beaver doesn't exist, it is just a backwards walking platypus that evolved ass teeth. th-cam.com/video/P9FRxokO2so/w-d-xo.html
Um, actually, while Hod did fire the arrow, he did not believe it could kill Baldur. It was, in fact, Loki who orchestrated the murder, and would go on to brag about it, resulting in him getting restrained by the rest of the pantheon with a snake dripping venom directly into his eyes to deal as much pain as possible for the crime.
It's probably my favorite of those stories. IIRC, that's the one where one of the gods was going around asking everything in the cosmos to not kill Baldur, cause he was the greatest of them and deserved their protection, something like that? And then Loki's like, "You don't need to ask mistletoe for it's protection, what's mistletoe gonna do to a God?" And for some reason they just, like... trusted his word? lol And then, when it was all said and done, Loki gives a mistletoe arrow to Hod and is basically like, "everything in the world has given it's protection to Baldur, so we must test this with THIS SPECIFIC ARROW AND NOTHING ELSE!" And again, they just kind of trusted him, Trickster God, for no reason whatsoever. lmao I feel like I'm missing a lot of the details, but I think that's basically the story, right? lol
In the actual myths Frigg is Odin's wife and mother of Baldur. Freyja is mostly just a prize to be won, bought, or stolen. Freyja's hand was even the price for constructing the walls of Asgard if done by a certain deadline as stated by the giant who they mentioned in the question. When it looked like he would succeed, with the help of his horse, the Aesir asked Loki, who is Odin's blood brother not son, to do something as the rest of them weren't clever enough to figure out a solution.
But they called Erik "Eric" and when Trapp was quoting Erik saying "I'm ashamed of the way I look" they captioned "the way I walk." Which makes no sense.
Reflecting mispronunciations in captions is a major disservice to those that need them. Due to the other mistakes in them, I think they're at least mostly automated.
I love that there was a whole disclaimer about "there's a fine line between folklore and religion, and we poke fun at things here, so we want to be respectful", and then right off the bat the first bit was about creationism ("the devil planted dinosaur bones") and Jesus 😂 This is the kind of content that makes me love College Humor and all its productions. And Shish, there is 100% an existing D&D stat block for the cockatrice in the basic rules 🙂
I mean, when they say that it’s basically saying “we aren’t making fun of religions except Christianity which is totally okay to make fun of” I say that as an atheist myself, there’s a weird allowance to be super critical of Christianity but the same people will make huge concessions for the exact same policies and principles in other religions
@@BichaeldeAngelo I think it's more that in the UK and North America, Christianity is the most common religion, so people from here are more familiar with it -- and thus more comfortable making fun of it -- than they are with other religions.
@@IceMetalPunk I understand that to an extent, it just often feels disingenuous to hear people make all these "stands" for their principles, but when it comes to a religion or culture they seem unfamiliar with those same principles seem to be nonexistent...believe in something or don't, but don't selectively believe in it, y'know?
This was so frustraiting to watch them joke about, and no fact check coming in telling them that Marvel is not a good saurce of information. How come so many people do no research on this at all. I mean I would even check if Thors weapon is actually a hammer if I only knew the Marvel Version.
@@gurentgc3546 Blood Brother in some versions (which is how he gets god like benefits despite being of pure Jotun ancestry, he has some of Odin's blood in his veins.)
Um, Actually only Medusa can turn people to stone by having them look at her. This is also why her sisters were granted immortality - so that they could be with her without being petrified by accident
There’s no ancient source that confirms what you’re saying. Most people agree that although her sisters were immortal and she mortal, they all had the ability to turn people into stone. If you could point be to a good source that would be lovely! I have never been able to find a reliable source that confirms this.
@@Duckduckobtusegoosethat’s the horrible thing about myths is that finding a reliable source is dumb because everyone changes it slightly but I think Homer might have said it
the mapinguari can also replicate noises the person it ate made, and uses this ability to lure lumberjacks and miners by calling their names/screaming in the voice of it's previous victim :)
Um actually, if I'm not mistaken at 25:46, the picture depicts a Manananggal of Philippine mythology, not an Alan. They have similar prey in pregnant women, but Alan has avian traits as well as having legs, while the Manananggal is known for being JUST the top half of a humanoid.
I was wondering this! I was like, I'm pretty sure that's a Phillipino vampire monster, but I don't think that's what it was called... good to know I'm not crazy
Another fun fact about the Phantom, he may have been a real guy. Larue based the novel on reading hearings for a thing that happened at the Paris Opera house, those records no longer exist so we don't know what's true an what isn't. Also the Lake under the Opera house is 100% real, it has an absurd number of basement levels and the lowest one is in fact a lake. It was intentional, basically the ground water was quite high and so the foundation is basically a building inside a building and the lake collects the ground water to keep the basements dry.
Um actually, in the only known and accepted written version where Etri appears, it is a bet to impress the gods. The gods are the judges of the items and contest (the bet and contest being one in the same). I feel bad for that extreme level of pedantry.
From what I've read, it was both. Loki gets a group of dwarves to make magical items as part of a competition (that Loki made up to try to get him out of another mess he made), but then needed to get another group of dwarves to compete against the first group for it to actually be a competition. The second group, Brokk and Eitri, only competed because Loki bet his head that they would lose. So although there was a bet, and the bet is important to the story, it was still a competition.
The bet revolved around crafting items superior to items crafted by the sons of ivaldi. These were Freyr's folding ship, Odin's spear gugnir, and golden hair for Sif (to replace her hair that loki cut off). If the items Brokkr and Eitri crafted were judged to be as good or better they would win loki's head. Even with the fault in mjolnir, their items were judged to be of sufficient quality to win the bet. the gods then ruled the brothers Brokkr and Eitri didn't have any claim to loki's neck, so couldn't cut of his head, resulting in them sowing his mouth shut for a time.
Um actually, the myth goes many ways but my favorite is that Odin didn’t want the giants to finish building the wall cause then he’d owe them. So send Loki to distract them. There were many failures- but pulling their stallion away from them by seducing it as a mare worked the best. They still finished the wall though.
8:41 That's because Golem is only similar to the golem in name. Golett and Golurk are the actual golem pokemon. Golem is based on the tsuchikorobi yokai and possibly golems as depicted in fantasy RPGs, which is another thing that tends to only resemble the folklore character in name. It's Japanese name (Golonya) has no reference to golems, instead being a portmanteau of goron-goron- the Japanese onomapeia for the sound falling rocks make and the Italian word for mountain- montagna.
See I would have buzzed in and said "Golem is not based on a golem, it is in fact based off of the concept of "what if a rock had arms, wouldn't that be fucked up"."
This may be the fault of the way Japanese has no phoenyms for 'L' and 'R' as english does, the odd behavior of the 'N' in japanese and the localization team not asking the appropriate clarification questions about the inspiration of certain pokemon.
Um actually, Maui's death was from the Maori version of Maui's myth. He was seeking to kill death and gain Immortality for humanity because nobody liked him anymore, and the birds that laughed at him were sparrows, the only birds that would go with him
Um actually, Marina was right about four treasures - Loki sabotaged the forging of Mjölnir, and in return for the failed attempt the dwarves had to make a fourth. *Edit:* Also um actually, how can a West African sky god be a _tiger?_ As Monty Python put it: "A tiger? In Africa?"
It depends on the version of the myth you read, I've never seen one where he had to make a fourth item, Thor is still impressed by the hammers other abilities he doesn't care about the handle being short.
@@chaosminer65vods I believe the myth as translated in the Prose Edda (Usually used as the correct versions of the myth) has Skíðblaðnir be the folding boat that was made during the competition. The competition was started because Loki bet the Dwarven siblings that they couldn't make new outstanding objects when they were commissioned to fix Sif's hair that Loki ruined, resulting in Loki getting nervous and attempting to sabotage most of the new objects.
19:30 Um, Actually, in the original mythology, Loki was NOT Odin's adopted son, but actually his blood brother. Like, they actually did a whole blood brother ceremony where they cut their arms and allowed their blood to flow into each other's veins. The whole bit about him being his adoptive brother was invented by Marvel.
Always fun to see when people are familiar with the myths or just pick stuff up from the comics inspired by them. Especially as Laufey is Loki's mother in the myths, not his dad as in the comics/movie.
Um actually… we don’t know how they mixed blood and there is no reference to any ceremony. Them mixing blood is only referred to once, very briefly, and we never get the details. All we know is that in the old days, Odin and Loki apparantly swore by mixing blood that they would never drink without the other also being welcome there as well.
@@aleksandersrlie7039 I mean I was mainly using the term "ceremony" for lack of a better word. I'm quite sure it wasn't anything formal enough to be considered a "ceremony", but I didn't really know what else to call it.
To answer Trapp's Question, the Navagunjara does appear in the Mahabarata! Arjuna is about to shoot it, before realizing that it is an aspect of Vishnu and bowing to it! We need a part 2 of this!!!!
Just an fyi, that double o in Susanoo isn't an /uː/. It's pronounced /oː/ in Japanese, so the closest English approximation would be /oʊ/, i.e. the long o sound. More info underneath for anyone curious! ^_^ (I'm not an expert, some of this info might be a bit off but I tried my best and I'm always open to corrections!) The double o at the end of Susanoo doesn't change the vowel, just makes it longer. Japanese uses a variation of the 5-vowel system, with the only differences mostly just being the presence of some unvoiced vowels (though I'm not sure whether they are phonemic), and the u sound being unrounded, as opposed to English which has 20-ish vowels depending on dialect and how you count. Japanese uses a length distinction, so while long vowels and short vowels have the same sound, the long vowels are quite literally longer. It's still considered one syllable, so to describe length we use the term mora as a unit of time, with long vowels being two morae instead of one mora. That doesn't necessarily mean it's exactly twice as long, it can be longer, but we call it two because there's only one length distinction (long vs short) whereas there are some languages with a short, long, and extra long distinction, and in those cases the extra long vowels are three morae. In the case of the long o sound in Japanese, it can either be represented as ō, ou, or oo. Three quick asides at the end: - There are some languages where there are specific situations in which pairs of words differ only by vowel length, including some dialects of English, while not really fully being considered to have a length distinction - Morae aren't exclusively used for vowel length - their usage is different in analyzing different languages, but in some languages a coda of a syllable is a mora as well. (They also work for syllabic consonants, but that feels unsurprising) - In Japanese, the 5-7-5 pattern for a Haiku is actually based off of Morae, not Syllables, so long vowels count as 2. But it just makes more sense to count syllables when writing a haiku English, so we do.
So after looking in to this a bit more, it seems like it may vary between speakers depending on their dialect whether they just extend the sound, add a /w/ glide between the two /o/ sounds, or "slightly separate the two," which I'm guessing means a glottal stop? But maybe it means something else? I feel like in other words that have a "double o," I don't often hear Japanese speakers separate them at all? But I'm neither a native speaker, nor even a speaker of it at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing it and I just can't tell because it's not something I'm accustomed to listening for since it's not present in either of my native languages.
@@joeytabora1052i love that barely anyone gave a sht for the long ass comment that could've been summarized as "don't say the oo as u" and STILL you did further research and added to it.
When I think of Anansi I can only think of two things, Static Shock and American Gods. We need an Anansi comic series. Also Orlando Jones deserved every award possible for his portrayal
I love how the male Loki transforms into a female horse and then gives his child to his father as a pet and people were like, yeah this is the religion for me.
If you're supposed to be a trickster god, you might as well go as big as you can with your jaypes. Also, as others have pointed out, Odin is not Loki's father. They swore a blood oath to each other, and are better described as blood-brothers, but are unrelated. Finally, Slepnir's fate is probably one of the least horrible out of all of Loki's children. He seems to be cursed to produce monsters, like Fenrir and Jormundgandr. Even Hel, while human in form, is half otherworldly beauty and half decaying corpse. Split vertically.
I haven't thought about Monster in My Pocket for years. I used to have all of them for the first few years they were out. They definitely helped create and cement my love of macabre and mythology and so on. Thank you for reminding me about something I loved dearly as a child. Also, great episode!
Yeah, the gorgons were actually pretty, Medusa was turned into the snake for hairs and all for "insulting" a goddess (most likely she existed while being prettier/better).
@@snorpenbass4196 um actually (Sorry had to) posidon forced himself upon madeusa and athena got jealous so gave them snake hair and the petrifying gaze we are not sure if this was to punish her for her transgression or to protect her should the same thing happen again.
@@snorpenbass4196 Um, actually: In the earliest Greek myths all of the gorgons were hideous. It was much later that the 'they were beautiful and then Athena cursed Medusa' thing was introduced.
@@samtrue3 that version of the myth was made up by a Roman poet named Ovid who had authority issues and rewrote old Greek myths to make the god look bad as a form of social commentary/propaganda. In the Greek sources Medusa was never human and while it was implied in some poems she and Poseidon might have slept together it was consensual.
24:30 I guessed brazil for 3 reasons. 1 the house structures seem more common in africa and south america, 2 that creature looks like a sloth which is from south america, and 3 brazil is the largest country in south america.
A bit pedantic, but Susano’o is not pronounced with the English “oo” sound. In Japanese Romanji, sequential vowels are pronounced individually. In the case of doubles it uses a glottal stop in between, similar to how American English pronounced “uh-oh”.
I feel like you might be mistaking it with the small tsu, as elongated vowels are pronounced as elongated. It's why theres a romanization that makes them just double instead of using the hiragana (Kouen vs Kooen)
But the elongated 'o' is followed by the 'u' character where other vowles are followed by a repeat of the appropriate vowel. Which is why it is the Ho'o bird with seperate emphasis on each 'o'. The small tsu is used to elongate (double up) the leading consonant as in 'Natto'.
I feel like there's an additional challenge with folklore in that stories change over time and as they spread different regions can develop different versions of the same story, so sometimes it's very debatable what is or isn't correct.
Um actually, a roughly 2/3 blood god can be achieved by a 100% god reproducing with a 25% blood god creating a 62.5% blood god. One could reasonably round up to 2/3 from 62.5%.
a more tedious route but not significantly more accurate is ... god & human = 0.5, demigod (0.5) & human = 0.25, 1/4god & god = 0.625, 0.625god & god = 0.8125, 0.8125god & 1/2god = 0.65625. cmon, someone get closer (seriously!)
Um actually, there is an African mythical creature from the republic of the Congo called the kasai rex that is basically a t-rex depending on the description.
13:09 Um, actually, there are a lots of variations of this concept. The closest one is Lepus Cornutus (aka "Horned Hare), but we can also mention the Al-Mi'raj from Arabic folklore who has a unicorn horn instead, and the Wolpertinger from German Folklore who looks like the Jackalope, but also has wings. (It should live in the same space as the Tatzelwurm actually) So, apparently everyone has shown freaky looking rabbits around the world and interpreted them in their own special ways, which I find really cool.
Uhm, actually... There are 2 stories explaining how Baldur was killed. In Snorri's version you have the mistletoe arrow and Höder killing him by being tricked by Loki. Saxo have a very different version where Höder kill him with a sword in a duel. The thing is that the word for blind and dark is the same work in old Norse so I think Snorri or whoever made his version originally (might have been someone else, Snorri did write down old tales while adding his own spin on them) screwed up and that Saxo Grammaticus version is the old and correct (as correct as mythology can be). His story is closer to the Greek divine twins story and including them both being in love with the same woman who accidentally gets killed during them fighting for who should marry her. Höder later travels to Nifelheim to bring her back... So the correct and nitpicky answer would be that he was indeed killed by Höd or Höder but with a sword and Loki had nothing to do with it (there is a lot of blaming Loki for everything in Snorri's works, even things Loki had nothing to do with in other stories by different authors).
33:08 - Umm... actually. I've been caught making this mistake as well, but Moana isn't Hawaiian. But is Polynesian. Most likely from Samoa but it isn't specifically stated in the movie. Similar but specifically different. Which is what this game is 100% about!
@@Mars0War That's actually another misconception. It isn't the people of new Zealand either. It's meant to be from the origins of that people. The earliest islands Tonga or Samoa most likely. New Zealand and Hawaii were colonized by those people but much later. You're correct that they all obviously share a culture and a mythos. But Moana herself isn't hawaiian because in the movie, her people hadn't colonized there or new Zealand yet. Hence the need for wayfarers. Would be like calling King Arthur American because eventually England colonized America.
I hope you do more episodes with this theme because I am WILD about this. Also, like many of the other folks here I really appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning! CH (+ Drawfee) has some of the best policies and accountability practices that I've seen in comedy/nerd circles. I feel like a lot of nerdy monster content (which I love, obviously) has a long history of taking religion, folklore, and cultural beliefs and putting them in the same camp as cryptids and mythology, and the very VERY recent trend of nerdy enthusiasts trying to turn that around to be more sensitive and discerning about what gets considered a "monster" and what "lore" is actually part of living religions and beliefs etc., is deeply necessary and much appreciated. ...I was going to add some Um Actually-s, but man the other commenters have got it on lock. Only cool kids go here.
I actually used a homebrew cockatrice for a campaign that had aoe petrified over time with 4 consecutive failed saves. Only reason they had to fight them was because of the torch they lit up that attracted them. Fun fight...for me as DM
Lol, I love how this show starts with "we're not going to make fun of anyone's beliefs" and then three minutes in they start making fun of young earth creationism 'XD
Awesome to see some Māori (not Hawaiian) mythology in here with the Maui story! Although the pronunciation of Hine-nui-te-pō is more like "hee neh new ee teh paw" :)
also just for fun the name "Hine-nui-te-pō" translates roughly to "large girl of the night/underworld" and her name at birth, before she became the goddess of the dead, was Hine-tītama.
Um, actually, Gilgamesh's lineage comes from one side the parent was a god, bringing him up to 50% Godhood. One the other side, he had a Great Grandparent who was a god, adding 12.5%, a 3x Great Grandparent, adding another 3.125%, a 5x Great Grandparent, adding 0.78125%, a 7x Great Grandparent, adding 0.195313%, a 9x Great Grandparent, adding 0.048828%, a 11x Great Grandparent, adding 0.012207%, a 13x Great Grandparent, adding 0.003052%, and a 15x Great Grandparent adding 0.000763%, for a total of 66.66641235% godhood. Close Enough.
15:35 a fun fact that this specific audience might enjoy, gargoyles are exclusively water spouts. If you see a character on a building that's purely decoration it's not a gargoyle it's a grotesque... it's understandable why that word hasn't caught on.
The best thing about Navagunjara is that when you say it's got parts of 8 different creatures including a peacock everyone thinks they know what part of the peacock made the cut and they'd all be wrong
Um, actually, Mythos is hard to do on a show like this. There are many variations on a lot of different myths. For example, another version of the gorgons has only Medusa being able to petrify people.
Um actually, the reason why Medusa is unique is that she is not the biological sister of the other two gorgons. She was turned into a gorgon by Athena, but I believe she was originally just a human woman. Sorry... Classics major.
That version of the myth was made up by a Roman poet Ovid with authority issues as a form of political and social commentary. In the original Greek versions Medusa was never human
16:15 everyone's reactions at the ingredients haha "I'll go with all the leftovers from all the other creatures I mixed and matched, wouldn't want to waste anything"
Ummm actually, Medusa could die because she was born human, but was transformed into a Gorgon as a punishment from a god/goddess. The born gorgon's were natural Titans. Medusa was a created titan, and thus mortal. Titans made the gods (Kronos,being the father of the gods, was a Titan), so gods could not make true Titans.
I love how in one of the rounds on the shiny question in the middle they all sounded like they were thinking about food with Turkey, Hungary and Hungary XD
Yes!! I love this show! Thank you for all the hilarity! I wish to be invited onto the show one day.. I need to get in the discord!! I also helped out with the kock starter of this amazing in home version 😊👍👏 cant wait to play!
on the human/donkey part of the chimerical question, i unironically answered “bottom from midsummer night’s dream”. onocentaur is (probably) a better answer though.
23:37 Um Actually, the Gordons didn't have a gaze that could turn you to stone, it was gazing AT them that turned you to stone. This fact is used by Perseus when he looks at Medusa through the reflection in his shield to see where she is.
The way Trapp said Susanoo, oh man, that made me laugh. I'm sure he just got a script and what not and I'm not blaming him, we all mispronounce things, but that is a good one.
This was my favorite episode so far! I love monsters! I did not read the comments so forgive me if I'm repeating - Um, actually the earliest depictions of satyrs have the hooves, and long ears of donkeys, or asses, not goats. Later poets and artists conflated satyrs with Pan and later with Roman goat-like fauns.
Um, Actually, there actually were four treasures, (five if you want to get really technical.) The hammer for Thor, The ring for Odin, The boar and the boat for Freyr, and the hair for Sif. (The hair was a replacement, and so doesn’t always count.)
Two sets of dwarf brothers crafted a total of six items. the sons of ivaldi made the boat, hair and Odin's spear gugnir and crafted their items first. brokkr and eitri (sindri) made the ring, boar and mjolnir. Three and three, loki interfered with brokkr and eitri because he literally bet his head on whether they could craft items as good or better than the first three.
Actually, given what Loki's OTHER children do, one might expect Odin to be VERY suspicious of Sleipnir. But then again I guess he "didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth."
It's 1;20am so I won't be watching this tonight. You know I will tomorrow before work though! It's weird, I'm subscribed and I don't think this came up on my sub page. I'm just learning of this new episode. I had to pull a double at work today, so I wouldn't have had time to watch it anyway. Can't wait till I do though!
um actually medusa was the only one who was mortal but she was also the only one who could turn you to stone, euryale and stheno were not given that power so it balances out
Sleipnirs birth have a tad more backstory to it. The Aesir hired a mason (and a giant in disguise) to build a wall to defent Asgard (fun fact: the -gard suffix implies its a fortefied position shich it wont be untill the wall is build). He bragged bout being able to do it in 3 seasons and claimed Freyas hand in marriage aswell as the sun and moon as payment. Freya was - reasonably - outraged but the other gods told her that they had no intentions of paying and Loki suggested they set terms that was so impossible that theyd still be in the right: the mason had to do all the work himself - in ONE season - with no help other than his horse to go collect stones. The mason agreed, provided they kept their side of the bargain. Turns out, the horse was strong and quick, and when the season drew to a close the wall was almost done with just one day left. The Aesir, panicking, starts blameing Loki (as per usual) saying that he needs to stop the mason from finishing the wall. So he disguises himself as a mare and lures away the stallion. No horse, no more stones for the wall, and the mason fails the bet (and as payment gets his head smashed in by thors hammer). Later Loki comes back with baby Sleipnir, a horse with 8 legs and already faster than the wind and able to run on both the gound and water and even up in the air. He gifts Sleipnir to Oden, the king of asgard and Lokis bloodbrother. That makes Sleipnir siblings with the likes of the giant wolf Fenris, Jörmungandr (the world serpent, foretold to eat Oden as he rides Sleipnir during Ragnarok) and Hel, the ruler of the dead who did not die in battle. Its to her they go to beg to bring Baldir back to life after died (after Loki tricked hid blind brother Hodir to kill him with the mistletoe)
Um Actually, in the version I see most often - Mjolnir was supposed to have a long handle that was to enchanted to extend. But after Loki's interference caused them to break the handle in half; the Dwarfs enchanted the short handle to return to Thor's hand.
Gilgamesh had three parents. The belief in the divinity of royal lines was maintained by the concept that the king was possessed by a god on the night that he begot the next king. In this way each king is both the son of his father (the last king) and a god. In the case of Gilgamesh his mother was also a goddess. So he had two parents who were gods and one parent who was mortal making him 2/3rds divine.
You didn't say "Um, actually."
@@RoderickEtheria Um Actually Gilgamesh had three parents. The belief in the divinity of royal lines was maintained by the concept that the king was possessed by a god on the night that he begot the next king. In this way each king is both the son of his father (the last king) and a god. In the case of Gilgamesh his mother was also a goddess. So he had two parents who were gods and one parent who was mortal making him 2/3rds divine.
hehe gottit
But wouldn't that make him a 3/4rds god?
@@tripplebarrelfinn4380 There were 3 partners, so no.
Um, actually, if his father was 1/3 god in this way and that father before him, etc, that would converge to the kings being half god pretty quickly. By the 3rd generation, they're already more than 48% god.
If his father was approximately half god, his mother was a god, and he had a 3rd god parent, he would not be 2/3 god. It would be more like 83%, by my math.
to elaborate on Baldur's death, while yes Hodr killed him with a mistletoe arrow (in some versions a spear, others a dart, in all cases mistletoe) it was only because Loki tricked him into doing it specifically because Hodr is blind (if I'm not mistaken) it was considered a great passtime in Valhalla to throw weapons at Baldur because he was immune to all damage and Loki gave him this mistletoe projectile and guided his hand
IIRC, the reason mistletoe could kill him is that his death was prophesied and his mother, Frigg, went around the world extracting promises from everything- and I mean EVERYTHING- that they wouldn't harm her son. Unfortunately, she forgot to get the promise from mistletoe.
@@cr1197 Exactly. It was all Frigg's fault.
I was sitting there after he asked the question wracking my brains over whose fault it technically was, lol
Tistel.
Frigg thought that misletoe was too young and actively skipped getting it's promise to not hurt Baldur.
There should be a future episode of foodies, and call it Yum, Actually.
I believe that would be amazing and brutal.
The shiny questions would be fantastic
@@danielt8919 Flavor fight!
Mythical Chef Josh would absolutely destroy anyone in Yum, Actually.
I'm surprised Trapp hasn't already done this. They'd have to have Rekha on for that one.
Mythology/folklore is extremely tricky to do something like “Um, Actually” on (as the comments show) there are multiple versions of different myths that are equally valid from a modern standpoint
Yep, like how many different myths about dragons there are.
@@bobdole4916 or, hell, just the labor of Heracles where he slayed the Lernean Hydra. How many heads did it have to start? Was it one head? Three heads? _Nine heads?_ Did its heads regenerate? Was only one head immortal and capable of regeneration? How many heads grew back at a time if it _did_ regrow them? 1? 2? 3? Was Iolaus involved with killing it? Did Heracles cauterize the wounds to prevent regrowth, or just trap one of the heads under a rock?? There are _so_ many versions of that _one_ myth that literally every situation I described above is true in some versions and false in others. And that's just one creature in one _small_ part of _one_ myth.
Ireland can't even agree on how to pronounce Cu Chulainn.
Little known fact: The Epic of Gilgamesh was followed up by a sequel, "Gilgamesh 2: Tokyo Drift", where Gilgamesh goes to Japan. In one scene, he kills the Yamata no Orochi in a sick street race.
I thought the sequel where Gilgamesh went to Japan was called Fate/Zero...
@@StarkMaximum Vin diesel comes out after and screams "we're Kazoku!"
@@StarkMaximum It happens after he went into the Dimensional Drift, when he actually ended up beating Humbaba again (well, he helped Terra wins, but same thing...)
@@FeenMachine88 I do not plan to confirm this in any way, but I assume I just learned the Japanese word for family
Medusa being the only mortal gorgon sounds like propaganda from the other two. After Medusa got killed they just sent out the word that Medusa was definitely the only mortal one, no use trying to kill us, we can’t be killed. Yep, we’re immortal, definitely not making this up because folks found a way to kill one of us.
I think in atleast some mythologies she was a human vestal virgin that got raped by Areis (I think) and then Athena turned her into a gorgon so no man would try to harm her again
@@Atomsk359 If I'm not mistaken, and maybe it varies from myth to myth, but I think Medusa was raped by Poseidon. I also think in some myths, Athena doesn't turn her into Medusa for her protection, but actually as a punishment for having the audacity to get raped in her shrine or temple or whatever
@@gamerdio2503 all versions where Medusa started as a human come from a version written by a Roman poet Ovid. Ovid was banished from his city and because of it developed a problem with authority so he rewrote many Greek myths to purposely make the gods seem like assholes (or even more of an asshole) as a form of political and social commentary/propaganda. No version of the story predating Ovid has Medusa ever being human. So while your free to reference or use that story if you want it should be kept in mind that it was written that way for a very specific purpose and not by a Greek writer.
@@Atomsk359 all versions where Medusa started as a human come from a version written by a Roman poet Ovid. Ovid was banished from his city and because of it developed a problem with authority so he rewrote many Greek myths to purposely make the gods seem like assholes (or even more of an asshole) as a form of political and social commentary/propaganda. No version of the story predating Ovid has Medusa ever being human. So while your free to reference or use that story if you want it should be kept in mind that it was written that way for a very specific purpose and not by a Greek writer.
@@gamerdio2503 I think I was conflating it with another one
Um, actually there is an Asian species of tapir - found in south-east Asia - known as the Malayan tapir. It's entirely possible that East Asian explorers came across these animals and inspired the legend of the dream-eating Baku.
Um, actually... in the fun banter at 19:30 , it's mentioned that Loki is Odin's son, but in Norse mythology he is Odin's brother. Marvel has confused us again between actual mythology and the MCU 😊
Um actually, Odin and Loke is not brothers either. They’re sometimes called «blood brothers» but this is just a reference to the fact that they allegedly swore a blood oath to eachother due to beng close friends/allies. :)
Um actually, Kratos had Loki with a giantess, so he’s not technically related 😉
@@BichaeldeAngelo Um actually, Loki's mother was Laufey the Jotunn. And since as far as I know nothing in the games has been changed about Odin's parent's, since Odin is also part Jotunn, they are related.
But the real um actually is indeed that Odin and Loki are blood brothers: unrelated persons who swore to be eachothers brother while sealing the oath with blood
@@aleksandersrlie7039 loki and odin are blood brothers in the sense that they swore a blood oath , they arent related
Um Actually, Odin and Loki are called "Milk brothers"
fun story cockatrice is also sometimes refered to as a basilisk which means that when the legend says that baba yagas hut has basilisk legs it actually just has big chicken legs
That's actually a matter of controversy. Some myth structures say basilisks and cockatrices are the same thing, some say they are not. In general, Cockatrices are always the Rooster/snake (actually a dragon) mix, while basilisks can be more wholly serpentine (think of the Basilisk in Harry Potter.)
A basalisk is a chicken egg hatched beneath a toad but a cockatrice is an egg specially laid by a male chicken, or a cock, hatched beneath a toad. Idk how a cock lays an egg or if that makes them rarer or what. Seems really pedantic since both turn stuff to stone.
@@ZeroTooL88 Fowl are among the species capable of naturally changing sex in extreme isolation (Which almost always happens MtF but I don't remember the specific case of Fowl).
@@ZeroTooL88 On occasion, due to hormone issues, elderly roosters WILL develop and egg like growth under the breast bone. And, of course, there is always the occasional hermaphrodite chicken.
Fortunately there are no stories saying that hut-on-the-chicken-legs has basilisk legs (for obvious reasons)
the sleipnir one had me immediately go "um actually loki transformed into a mare, not a stallion"
Same though.
The fan who demolished iffy and shiobhan in the fan v face ep also literally said this thing on this show
I also got the 'Mjolnir' one that quickly. Benefits of reading Neil Gaiman's 'Norse Mythology' recently.
@@andrewrawlings5220 isn't that a great one? The stories themselves are ancient, told many many times, but the way he found to re-tell them was really nice.
Same. I was sitting here like "wait, I thought Loki gave birth, he wasn't a stallion" (though I don't remember the context and/or names.)
Interestingly, scientists originally thought the platypus was a case of gaffe taxidermy because it was obviously just a beaver with a duck bill.
in the spirit of technical pedantry, some english scientists in england thought that, researchers in Australia had seen them alive and knew they were real, and other scientists in england held it to be real.
Plus, bonus fun fact, its actually called the duckbilled platypus because theres another creature called the platypus, a beetle from new zealand
They got that backwards, the beaver doesn't exist, it is just a backwards walking platypus that evolved ass teeth.
th-cam.com/video/P9FRxokO2so/w-d-xo.html
To be clear it was the scientists at home in the old world who doubted it, the scientists in the colonies were the ones sending the evidence home.
and this was long before their fur was teal!
really big duck!
Um, actually, while Hod did fire the arrow, he did not believe it could kill Baldur. It was, in fact, Loki who orchestrated the murder, and would go on to brag about it, resulting in him getting restrained by the rest of the pantheon with a snake dripping venom directly into his eyes to deal as much pain as possible for the crime.
It's probably my favorite of those stories. IIRC, that's the one where one of the gods was going around asking everything in the cosmos to not kill Baldur, cause he was the greatest of them and deserved their protection, something like that?
And then Loki's like, "You don't need to ask mistletoe for it's protection, what's mistletoe gonna do to a God?" And for some reason they just, like... trusted his word? lol
And then, when it was all said and done, Loki gives a mistletoe arrow to Hod and is basically like, "everything in the world has given it's protection to Baldur, so we must test this with THIS SPECIFIC ARROW AND NOTHING ELSE!"
And again, they just kind of trusted him, Trickster God, for no reason whatsoever. lmao
I feel like I'm missing a lot of the details, but I think that's basically the story, right? lol
@@bronsoncarder2491 That would be Freyja, Baldr's mother.
In the actual myths Frigg is Odin's wife and mother of Baldur. Freyja is mostly just a prize to be won, bought, or stolen. Freyja's hand was even the price for constructing the walls of Asgard if done by a certain deadline as stated by the giant who they mentioned in the question. When it looked like he would succeed, with the help of his horse, the Aesir asked Loki, who is Odin's blood brother not son, to do something as the rest of them weren't clever enough to figure out a solution.
True but mistletoe was the only thing his mom didn't ask protection from.
This was also the event that would begin to trigger Ragnarök.
Whoever is doing the captioning is on point. They caught and recorded the mispronunciation of "golem" as "gollum".
and Baldur as "Boulder"
But they called Erik "Eric" and when Trapp was quoting Erik saying "I'm ashamed of the way I look" they captioned "the way I walk." Which makes no sense.
Reflecting mispronunciations in captions is a major disservice to those that need them.
Due to the other mistakes in them, I think they're at least mostly automated.
somehow they got ocenotaur right but didn't pick up on the fact that Jordan was portmanteauing ass and centaur to get ass-taur.
I love that there was a whole disclaimer about "there's a fine line between folklore and religion, and we poke fun at things here, so we want to be respectful", and then right off the bat the first bit was about creationism ("the devil planted dinosaur bones") and Jesus 😂 This is the kind of content that makes me love College Humor and all its productions.
And Shish, there is 100% an existing D&D stat block for the cockatrice in the basic rules 🙂
To be fair, creationism isn't religion so much as ignorant propaganda started by religious people.
@@mustlovebooknerd Isn't 99% of religious teachings is just ignorant propaganda started by religious people? Difference is only how mainstream is it.
I mean, when they say that it’s basically saying “we aren’t making fun of religions except Christianity which is totally okay to make fun of” I say that as an atheist myself, there’s a weird allowance to be super critical of Christianity but the same people will make huge concessions for the exact same policies and principles in other religions
@@BichaeldeAngelo I think it's more that in the UK and North America, Christianity is the most common religion, so people from here are more familiar with it -- and thus more comfortable making fun of it -- than they are with other religions.
@@IceMetalPunk I understand that to an extent, it just often feels disingenuous to hear people make all these "stands" for their principles, but when it comes to a religion or culture they seem unfamiliar with those same principles seem to be nonexistent...believe in something or don't, but don't selectively believe in it, y'know?
Um actually, Loki is not Odin's son, but actually Odin's "brother" or equal in the mythos, he's only Odin's son in the comics
Um actually you stole my comment
Exactly, Loki was his shield brother.
This was so frustraiting to watch them joke about, and no fact check coming in telling them that Marvel is not a good saurce of information. How come so many people do no research on this at all. I mean I would even check if Thors weapon is actually a hammer if I only knew the Marvel Version.
@@gurentgc3546 Blood Brother in some versions (which is how he gets god like benefits despite being of pure Jotun ancestry, he has some of Odin's blood in his veins.)
came here to say this
Um, Actually only Medusa can turn people to stone by having them look at her. This is also why her sisters were granted immortality - so that they could be with her without being petrified by accident
There’s no ancient source that confirms what you’re saying. Most people agree that although her sisters were immortal and she mortal, they all had the ability to turn people into stone.
If you could point be to a good source that would be lovely! I have never been able to find a reliable source that confirms this.
@@Duckduckobtusegoosethat’s the horrible thing about myths is that finding a reliable source is dumb because everyone changes it slightly but I think Homer might have said it
Um, actually, a basilisk (just a big snake usually) is also known to petrify its victims through its gaze.
the mapinguari can also replicate noises the person it ate made, and uses this ability to lure lumberjacks and miners by calling their names/screaming in the voice of it's previous victim :)
if it's not an intentional inspiration for the predator then it's a HELL of a coincidence
@@Seeriosa I was thinking inspiration for the Annihilation bear myself 😬
Um actually, if I'm not mistaken at 25:46, the picture depicts a Manananggal of Philippine mythology, not an Alan. They have similar prey in pregnant women, but Alan has avian traits as well as having legs, while the Manananggal is known for being JUST the top half of a humanoid.
Thank you I came here to say that. That's even a pic from the wiki page on manananggal.
I was wondering this! I was like, I'm pretty sure that's a Phillipino vampire monster, but I don't think that's what it was called... good to know I'm not crazy
Beat me to it
That's fucking cool as hell
Weirdly they have done the manananggal on this show before.
Another fun fact about the Phantom, he may have been a real guy. Larue based the novel on reading hearings for a thing that happened at the Paris Opera house, those records no longer exist so we don't know what's true an what isn't. Also the Lake under the Opera house is 100% real, it has an absurd number of basement levels and the lowest one is in fact a lake. It was intentional, basically the ground water was quite high and so the foundation is basically a building inside a building and the lake collects the ground water to keep the basements dry.
Um Actually, in some versions of the myth the competition between the dwarves is actually a bet against Loki and not an attempt to impress the gods.
Um actually, in the only known and accepted written version where Etri appears, it is a bet to impress the gods. The gods are the judges of the items and contest (the bet and contest being one in the same). I feel bad for that extreme level of pedantry.
From what I've read, it was both. Loki gets a group of dwarves to make magical items as part of a competition (that Loki made up to try to get him out of another mess he made), but then needed to get another group of dwarves to compete against the first group for it to actually be a competition. The second group, Brokk and Eitri, only competed because Loki bet his head that they would lose. So although there was a bet, and the bet is important to the story, it was still a competition.
@@danielmorton9956 mine was barely a correction anyways lol
The bet revolved around crafting items superior to items crafted by the sons of ivaldi. These were Freyr's folding ship, Odin's spear gugnir, and golden hair for Sif (to replace her hair that loki cut off). If the items Brokkr and Eitri crafted were judged to be as good or better they would win loki's head. Even with the fault in mjolnir, their items were judged to be of sufficient quality to win the bet. the gods then ruled the brothers Brokkr and Eitri didn't have any claim to loki's neck, so couldn't cut of his head, resulting in them sowing his mouth shut for a time.
Um actually, the myth goes many ways but my favorite is that Odin didn’t want the giants to finish building the wall cause then he’d owe them. So send Loki to distract them. There were many failures- but pulling their stallion away from them by seducing it as a mare worked the best. They still finished the wall though.
I think the Giant was late, so they could argue themselves out of the payment.
8:41 That's because Golem is only similar to the golem in name. Golett and Golurk are the actual golem pokemon. Golem is based on the tsuchikorobi yokai and possibly golems as depicted in fantasy RPGs, which is another thing that tends to only resemble the folklore character in name. It's Japanese name (Golonya) has no reference to golems, instead being a portmanteau of goron-goron- the Japanese onomapeia for the sound falling rocks make and the Italian word for mountain- montagna.
See I would have buzzed in and said "Golem is not based on a golem, it is in fact based off of the concept of "what if a rock had arms, wouldn't that be fucked up"."
This may be the fault of the way Japanese has no phoenyms for 'L' and 'R' as english does, the odd behavior of the 'N' in japanese and the localization team not asking the appropriate clarification questions about the inspiration of certain pokemon.
Um actually, Maui's death was from the Maori version of Maui's myth. He was seeking to kill death and gain Immortality for humanity because nobody liked him anymore, and the birds that laughed at him were sparrows, the only birds that would go with him
Um, actually, it was a pīwakawaka (fantail) that laughed - sparrows aren't native to Aotearoa.
@@braedonvickers Oop, my bad, and as a kiwi, I feel really damn stupid xD
I jumped into the comments to see if this was already picked up. nice one e hoa :)
@@slou020 Nice to see a fellow Kiwi, haha
also, according to some hine nui te po had 'vagina dentata' which is what ultimately killed maui
Um actually, Marina was right about four treasures - Loki sabotaged the forging of Mjölnir, and in return for the failed attempt the dwarves had to make a fourth.
*Edit:* Also um actually, how can a West African sky god be a _tiger?_ As Monty Python put it: "A tiger? In Africa?"
Cultural exchange baybeee
Perhaps it escaped from a zoo.
Same way there are wolves in South Africa. Things be where they be.
It depends on the version of the myth you read, I've never seen one where he had to make a fourth item, Thor is still impressed by the hammers other abilities he doesn't care about the handle being short.
@@chaosminer65vods I believe the myth as translated in the Prose Edda (Usually used as the correct versions of the myth) has Skíðblaðnir be the folding boat that was made during the competition. The competition was started because Loki bet the Dwarven siblings that they couldn't make new outstanding objects when they were commissioned to fix Sif's hair that Loki ruined, resulting in Loki getting nervous and attempting to sabotage most of the new objects.
19:30
Um, Actually, in the original mythology, Loki was NOT Odin's adopted son, but actually his blood brother. Like, they actually did a whole blood brother ceremony where they cut their arms and allowed their blood to flow into each other's veins. The whole bit about him being his adoptive brother was invented by Marvel.
Always fun to see when people are familiar with the myths or just pick stuff up from the comics inspired by them. Especially as Laufey is Loki's mother in the myths, not his dad as in the comics/movie.
Um actually… we don’t know how they mixed blood and there is no reference to any ceremony. Them mixing blood is only referred to once, very briefly, and we never get the details. All we know is that in the old days, Odin and Loki apparantly swore by mixing blood that they would never drink without the other also being welcome there as well.
@@aleksandersrlie7039 I mean I was mainly using the term "ceremony" for lack of a better word. I'm quite sure it wasn't anything formal enough to be considered a "ceremony", but I didn't really know what else to call it.
I'm glad someone else pointed out how strangely mundane The Phantoms real name is lol
As a Drawfee viewer, hearing that the Tatzelwurm has the back half of a snake and the front half of a cat sent me into shock
Um actually,this is like my new favorite TH-cam series im binging lol can't wait for what's next!
If you join their website there's a ton of more episodes
As one who witnessed the very first one (back when it was just Trip and a couch), I welcome you to this glorious community!
Welcome to the club😀 There's a lot of great episodes!!
Um, actually, there are tapirs in Southeast Asia, so its not a complete fluke that the Baku looks like it.
Happy Friday, fellow enthusiasts of Um, Actually!
Um, Actually, it's already Saturday in a few time zones...
I mean...
You too, have a nice day
Happy Friday, Benton^^
Yuuuurrrrtttt
This may be my favorite Um Actually yet. Loved the theme and the questions, would love to have more of these!
Don-key-xote was freaking priceless! Now that would make a great Pixar character name!
Always braying at windmills with his sidekick, Sancho Panther.
Donkey Hodie was a character on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood, and yes, he tried to build a windmill.
To answer Trapp's Question, the Navagunjara does appear in the Mahabarata! Arjuna is about to shoot it, before realizing that it is an aspect of Vishnu and bowing to it!
We need a part 2 of this!!!!
The "Das ist ein Tatzelwurm" was very good!
Just an fyi, that double o in Susanoo isn't an /uː/. It's pronounced /oː/ in Japanese, so the closest English approximation would be /oʊ/, i.e. the long o sound. More info underneath for anyone curious! ^_^ (I'm not an expert, some of this info might be a bit off but I tried my best and I'm always open to corrections!)
The double o at the end of Susanoo doesn't change the vowel, just makes it longer. Japanese uses a variation of the 5-vowel system, with the only differences mostly just being the presence of some unvoiced vowels (though I'm not sure whether they are phonemic), and the u sound being unrounded, as opposed to English which has 20-ish vowels depending on dialect and how you count.
Japanese uses a length distinction, so while long vowels and short vowels have the same sound, the long vowels are quite literally longer. It's still considered one syllable, so to describe length we use the term mora as a unit of time, with long vowels being two morae instead of one mora. That doesn't necessarily mean it's exactly twice as long, it can be longer, but we call it two because there's only one length distinction (long vs short) whereas there are some languages with a short, long, and extra long distinction, and in those cases the extra long vowels are three morae. In the case of the long o sound in Japanese, it can either be represented as ō, ou, or oo.
Three quick asides at the end:
- There are some languages where there are specific situations in which pairs of words differ only by vowel length, including some dialects of English, while not really fully being considered to have a length distinction
- Morae aren't exclusively used for vowel length - their usage is different in analyzing different languages, but in some languages a coda of a syllable is a mora as well. (They also work for syllabic consonants, but that feels unsurprising)
- In Japanese, the 5-7-5 pattern for a Haiku is actually based off of Morae, not Syllables, so long vowels count as 2. But it just makes more sense to count syllables when writing a haiku English, so we do.
Isn't it pronounced as two o's in succession since the full word is 4 morae? (須佐之男 - すさのお)
So after looking in to this a bit more, it seems like it may vary between speakers depending on their dialect whether they just extend the sound, add a /w/ glide between the two /o/ sounds, or "slightly separate the two," which I'm guessing means a glottal stop? But maybe it means something else? I feel like in other words that have a "double o," I don't often hear Japanese speakers separate them at all? But I'm neither a native speaker, nor even a speaker of it at all, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are doing it and I just can't tell because it's not something I'm accustomed to listening for since it's not present in either of my native languages.
@@joeytabora1052i love that barely anyone gave a sht for the long ass comment that could've been summarized as "don't say the oo as u" and STILL you did further research and added to it.
When I think of Anansi I can only think of two things, Static Shock and American Gods. We need an Anansi comic series. Also Orlando Jones deserved every award possible for his portrayal
Theres so many monsters in the world this should be ongoing theme episodes. Or at least get a part 2
Um actually, Loki and Odin are blood brothers in Norse Mythology, making Odin an uncle in this situation.
19:30
Um, actually Loki is the son of Odin only in the Marvel movies and comics. In actual Norse mythology, Loki is the brother of Odin.
Not even real brother, just shield-brother
I love how the male Loki transforms into a female horse and then gives his child to his father as a pet and people were like, yeah this is the religion for me.
If you're supposed to be a trickster god, you might as well go as big as you can with your jaypes.
Also, as others have pointed out, Odin is not Loki's father. They swore a blood oath to each other, and are better described as blood-brothers, but are unrelated.
Finally, Slepnir's fate is probably one of the least horrible out of all of Loki's children. He seems to be cursed to produce monsters, like Fenrir and Jormundgandr. Even Hel, while human in form, is half otherworldly beauty and half decaying corpse. Split vertically.
@@nonyabidness8676 yeah I'm not to familiar with Norse mythology but i just want to know what whoever invented this story was on
Jordan is so pleasantly witty and funny!
I haven't thought about Monster in My Pocket for years. I used to have all of them for the first few years they were out. They definitely helped create and cement my love of macabre and mythology and so on. Thank you for reminding me about something I loved dearly as a child. Also, great episode!
Um actually, stheno and eurayle cannot turn people to stone they were simply just immortal and medusas sisters
Yeah, the gorgons were actually pretty, Medusa was turned into the snake for hairs and all for "insulting" a goddess (most likely she existed while being prettier/better).
@@snorpenbass4196 um actually (Sorry had to) posidon forced himself upon madeusa and athena got jealous so gave them snake hair and the petrifying gaze we are not sure if this was to punish her for her transgression or to protect her should the same thing happen again.
@@snorpenbass4196 Um, actually: In the earliest Greek myths all of the gorgons were hideous. It was much later that the 'they were beautiful and then Athena cursed Medusa' thing was introduced.
@@samtrue3 that version of the myth was made up by a Roman poet named Ovid who had authority issues and rewrote old Greek myths to make the god look bad as a form of social commentary/propaganda. In the Greek sources Medusa was never human and while it was implied in some poems she and Poseidon might have slept together it was consensual.
Red from OSP would have been great in this!
24:30 I guessed brazil for 3 reasons. 1 the house structures seem more common in africa and south america, 2 that creature looks like a sloth which is from south america, and 3 brazil is the largest country in south america.
A bit pedantic, but Susano’o is not pronounced with the English “oo” sound. In Japanese Romanji, sequential vowels are pronounced individually. In the case of doubles it uses a glottal stop in between, similar to how American English pronounced “uh-oh”.
I feel like you might be mistaking it with the small tsu, as elongated vowels are pronounced as elongated. It's why theres a romanization that makes them just double instead of using the hiragana (Kouen vs Kooen)
But the elongated 'o' is followed by the 'u' character where other vowles are followed by a repeat of the appropriate vowel. Which is why it is the Ho'o bird with seperate emphasis on each 'o'. The small tsu is used to elongate (double up) the leading consonant as in 'Natto'.
I miss having the contestants on the couch racing the light up buzzers
Good plug, Jordan, Werewolf Radar sounds extremely relevant to my interests and I have already downloaded the earliest available episode!
Um, actually, Stheno is also the patron God of secretaries and stenographers...
Yeah, I know I'm a terrible person.
This was so niche I wasn’t sure how this would play out but was impressed by the outcome! Well played
Um, Actually the story with Maui and Hine-nui-te-po wasn't Hawaiian, but Maori. I know it was just a passing statement, but it's still good to note.
Grunkle Stanford in Gravity Falls should have been your example of graftaxidermy
I was really hoping someone would say basilisk for the cockatrice because they are technically the same depending on the story you hear
I feel like there's an additional challenge with folklore in that stories change over time and as they spread different regions can develop different versions of the same story, so sometimes it's very debatable what is or isn't correct.
Um actually, a roughly 2/3 blood god can be achieved by a 100% god reproducing with a 25% blood god creating a 62.5% blood god. One could reasonably round up to 2/3 from 62.5%.
a more tedious route but not significantly more accurate is ... god & human = 0.5, demigod (0.5) & human = 0.25, 1/4god & god = 0.625, 0.625god & god = 0.8125, 0.8125god & 1/2god = 0.65625. cmon, someone get closer (seriously!)
Or, given that they're gods and immortal and all, we could have an infinite series of offspring approaching 0.66666.........
@@AhsimNreiziev that feels like that would just be a devil then.
(um actually) genetics aren't always exactly 50/50 so one could reasonably get a 66.6% god from a full god and a quarter god.
@@areit99 this would get you a 3/8s God.
Um actually, Tapirs are also found in parts of Asia.
Always cracks me up when they try to pronounce non English things. 😂 Nice episode, easy questions to beginn with followed by pure insanity.
I love the reference to The Relic! Great movie with some cool shots set in the Field Museum :)
Um actually, there is an African mythical creature from the republic of the Congo called the kasai rex that is basically a t-rex depending on the description.
13:09 Um, actually, there are a lots of variations of this concept. The closest one is Lepus Cornutus (aka "Horned Hare), but we can also mention the Al-Mi'raj from Arabic folklore who has a unicorn horn instead, and the Wolpertinger from German Folklore who looks like the Jackalope, but also has wings. (It should live in the same space as the Tatzelwurm actually)
So, apparently everyone has shown freaky looking rabbits around the world and interpreted them in their own special ways, which I find really cool.
Um, actually, Enkidu was not Gilgamesh's friend. He was very obviously his bear boyfriend. 😁
Both can be true at the same time 😉😊
Enkidu was powerful in the epic explicitly until he was getting it regularly from a female and then lost all his abilities.
That may be my favourite episode of um, actually. Great all around
Uhm, actually... There are 2 stories explaining how Baldur was killed. In Snorri's version you have the mistletoe arrow and Höder killing him by being tricked by Loki.
Saxo have a very different version where Höder kill him with a sword in a duel.
The thing is that the word for blind and dark is the same work in old Norse so I think Snorri or whoever made his version originally (might have been someone else, Snorri did write down old tales while adding his own spin on them) screwed up and that Saxo Grammaticus version is the old and correct (as correct as mythology can be). His story is closer to the Greek divine twins story and including them both being in love with the same woman who accidentally gets killed during them fighting for who should marry her. Höder later travels to Nifelheim to bring her back...
So the correct and nitpicky answer would be that he was indeed killed by Höd or Höder but with a sword and Loki had nothing to do with it (there is a lot of blaming Loki for everything in Snorri's works, even things Loki had nothing to do with in other stories by different authors).
33:08 - Umm... actually. I've been caught making this mistake as well, but Moana isn't Hawaiian. But is Polynesian. Most likely from Samoa but it isn't specifically stated in the movie.
Similar but specifically different. Which is what this game is 100% about!
Lot's of pacific cultures have Maui myths, and I believe the version they referenced here was Maori.
@@Mars0War That's actually another misconception. It isn't the people of new Zealand either. It's meant to be from the origins of that people. The earliest islands Tonga or Samoa most likely. New Zealand and Hawaii were colonized by those people but much later.
You're correct that they all obviously share a culture and a mythos. But Moana herself isn't hawaiian because in the movie, her people hadn't colonized there or new Zealand yet. Hence the need for wayfarers.
Would be like calling King Arthur American because eventually England colonized America.
@@TuberTugger The art used was clearly from a Maori version, as the birds (fantails/pīwakawaka) are endemic to New Zealand
I hope you do more episodes with this theme because I am WILD about this. Also, like many of the other folks here I really appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning! CH (+ Drawfee) has some of the best policies and accountability practices that I've seen in comedy/nerd circles. I feel like a lot of nerdy monster content (which I love, obviously) has a long history of taking religion, folklore, and cultural beliefs and putting them in the same camp as cryptids and mythology, and the very VERY recent trend of nerdy enthusiasts trying to turn that around to be more sensitive and discerning about what gets considered a "monster" and what "lore" is actually part of living religions and beliefs etc., is deeply necessary and much appreciated. ...I was going to add some Um Actually-s, but man the other commenters have got it on lock. Only cool kids go here.
I actually used a homebrew cockatrice for a campaign that had aoe petrified over time with 4 consecutive failed saves. Only reason they had to fight them was because of the torch they lit up that attracted them. Fun fight...for me as DM
Lol, I love how this show starts with "we're not going to make fun of anyone's beliefs" and then three minutes in they start making fun of young earth creationism 'XD
We need to draw a distinction between "belief" and "idiiocy"...
16:50 it would have been funny to include the questing beast from the once and future king, then on the reveal just show a giraffe.
Nerds correcting people about EXTRA nerdy stuff this time. Shiny.
Awesome to see some Māori (not Hawaiian) mythology in here with the Maui story! Although the pronunciation of Hine-nui-te-pō is more like "hee neh new ee teh paw" :)
also just for fun the name "Hine-nui-te-pō" translates roughly to "large girl of the night/underworld" and her name at birth, before she became the goddess of the dead, was Hine-tītama.
Um, actually, Gilgamesh's lineage comes from one side the parent was a god, bringing him up to 50% Godhood. One the other side, he had a Great Grandparent who was a god, adding 12.5%, a 3x Great Grandparent, adding another 3.125%, a 5x Great Grandparent, adding 0.78125%, a 7x Great Grandparent, adding 0.195313%, a 9x Great Grandparent, adding 0.048828%, a 11x Great Grandparent, adding 0.012207%, a 13x Great Grandparent, adding 0.003052%, and a 15x Great Grandparent adding 0.000763%, for a total of 66.66641235% godhood.
Close Enough.
15:35 a fun fact that this specific audience might enjoy, gargoyles are exclusively water spouts. If you see a character on a building that's purely decoration it's not a gargoyle it's a grotesque... it's understandable why that word hasn't caught on.
Anyone else get irrationally angry knowing they would have cleaned up if they were a contestant on a specific episode? That's me right now 😡
The best thing about Navagunjara is that when you say it's got parts of 8 different creatures including a peacock everyone thinks they know what part of the peacock made the cut and they'd all be wrong
Um Actually, his name is pronounced [Sue-Sa-No-OO] their is a - between the O's
Um, actually,
Mythos is hard to do on a show like this. There are many variations on a lot of different myths. For example, another version of the gorgons has only Medusa being able to petrify people.
Um actually, the reason why Medusa is unique is that she is not the biological sister of the other two gorgons. She was turned into a gorgon by Athena, but I believe she was originally just a human woman. Sorry... Classics major.
Wait, I thought they WERE sisters.
That version of the myth was made up by a Roman poet Ovid with authority issues as a form of political and social commentary. In the original Greek versions Medusa was never human
16:15 everyone's reactions at the ingredients haha "I'll go with all the leftovers from all the other creatures I mixed and matched, wouldn't want to waste anything"
Ummm actually, Medusa could die because she was born human, but was transformed into a Gorgon as a punishment from a god/goddess. The born gorgon's were natural Titans. Medusa was a created titan, and thus mortal. Titans made the gods (Kronos,being the father of the gods, was a Titan), so gods could not make true Titans.
I watch this show solely for the amazing movie ideas you all come up with!
I love how in one of the rounds on the shiny question in the middle they all sounded like they were thinking about food with Turkey, Hungary and Hungary XD
Yes!! I love this show! Thank you for all the hilarity! I wish to be invited onto the show one day.. I need to get in the discord!!
I also helped out with the kock starter of this amazing in home version 😊👍👏 cant wait to play!
on the human/donkey part of the chimerical question, i unironically answered “bottom from midsummer night’s dream”. onocentaur is (probably) a better answer though.
23:37
Um Actually, the Gordons didn't have a gaze that could turn you to stone, it was gazing AT them that turned you to stone. This fact is used by Perseus when he looks at Medusa through the reflection in his shield to see where she is.
Rule number one with mountain lions is to never break line of sight with them! They want that juicy sneak attack neck-bite-from-the-back combo.
The way Trapp said Susanoo, oh man, that made me laugh. I'm sure he just got a script and what not and I'm not blaming him, we all mispronounce things, but that is a good one.
This was my favorite episode so far! I love monsters! I did not read the comments so forgive me if I'm repeating - Um, actually the earliest depictions of satyrs have the hooves, and long ears of donkeys, or asses, not goats. Later poets and artists conflated satyrs with Pan and later with Roman goat-like fauns.
As a Welshman who's lived in Wales for 36 years, I have never heard of the Afanc. I feel somewhat ashamed...
Jordan saying "round about, that's my shape". Golden 😂
Wow, lots of good Tatzelwurm art online. Never heard of it, but I'm gonna start breeding them as pets.
13:43 Um, Actually a cat (specifically a lepoard) and a snake (as shown in the example) is also a Serpopard.
Um, Actually, there actually were four treasures, (five if you want to get really technical.)
The hammer for Thor,
The ring for Odin,
The boar and the boat for Freyr,
and the hair for Sif. (The hair was a replacement, and so doesn’t always count.)
Two sets of dwarf brothers crafted a total of six items. the sons of ivaldi made the boat, hair and Odin's spear gugnir and crafted their items first. brokkr and eitri (sindri) made the ring, boar and mjolnir. Three and three, loki interfered with brokkr and eitri because he literally bet his head on whether they could craft items as good or better than the first three.
I've actually seen that picture of the Simurgh before. It's in the Pathfinder 2e bestiary. It's a surprisingly powerful monster.
I knew the Loki-Sleipnir situation, as Sleipnir is the only one of his "weird" (monstrous) children of which he is the mother.
Actually, given what Loki's OTHER children do, one might expect Odin to be VERY suspicious of Sleipnir. But then again I guess he "didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth."
@@sojoboscribe1342 Indeed. He'd probably be looking at the legs. It's the only mount with 8.
It's 1;20am so I won't be watching this tonight. You know I will tomorrow before work though! It's weird, I'm subscribed and I don't think this came up on my sub page. I'm just learning of this new episode. I had to pull a double at work today, so I wouldn't have had time to watch it anyway. Can't wait till I do though!
um actually medusa was the only one who was mortal but she was also the only one who could turn you to stone, euryale and stheno were not given that power so it balances out
25:03 Um, Actually, all creatures with mouths and stomachs technically have their stomachs in their mouths.
Sleipnirs birth have a tad more backstory to it. The Aesir hired a mason (and a giant in disguise) to build a wall to defent Asgard (fun fact: the -gard suffix implies its a fortefied position shich it wont be untill the wall is build). He bragged bout being able to do it in 3 seasons and claimed Freyas hand in marriage aswell as the sun and moon as payment. Freya was - reasonably - outraged but the other gods told her that they had no intentions of paying and Loki suggested they set terms that was so impossible that theyd still be in the right: the mason had to do all the work himself - in ONE season - with no help other than his horse to go collect stones. The mason agreed, provided they kept their side of the bargain.
Turns out, the horse was strong and quick, and when the season drew to a close the wall was almost done with just one day left. The Aesir, panicking, starts blameing Loki (as per usual) saying that he needs to stop the mason from finishing the wall. So he disguises himself as a mare and lures away the stallion. No horse, no more stones for the wall, and the mason fails the bet (and as payment gets his head smashed in by thors hammer). Later Loki comes back with baby Sleipnir, a horse with 8 legs and already faster than the wind and able to run on both the gound and water and even up in the air. He gifts Sleipnir to Oden, the king of asgard and Lokis bloodbrother.
That makes Sleipnir siblings with the likes of the giant wolf Fenris, Jörmungandr (the world serpent, foretold to eat Oden as he rides Sleipnir during Ragnarok) and Hel, the ruler of the dead who did not die in battle. Its to her they go to beg to bring Baldir back to life after died (after Loki tricked hid blind brother Hodir to kill him with the mistletoe)
An episode on TH-cam today means an episode on Dropout tonight! Yay!
Um Actually, in the version I see most often - Mjolnir was supposed to have a long handle that was to enchanted to extend. But after Loki's interference caused them to break the handle in half; the Dwarfs enchanted the short handle to return to Thor's hand.