2020 BMW N63 Reliability Common Problems !!! Is This The Worst BMW Engine ???

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  • @BA-ue8lh
    @BA-ue8lh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    N63B44. Maintenance is key: 5k mile synthetic oil changes, all fluids always topped off, super unleaded fuel only, and frequent full throttle pulls. The engine is a beast, but a lot of people buy these cars for the prestige, and are lazy and or too cheap to properly maintain them. My n63 has 192k miles, and runs like a top. I enjoy spanking pickup truck drivers everywhere. But wanna play, gotta pay.

    • @michaelbrown306
      @michaelbrown306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@powerGPT I have a BMW shop and I have service over 1600 BMWs. Mostly V8 550, 650 and 750s. I can tell you that I have 3 customers with 300K miles on the 745 and 750s. When I did valve stem seals on the engines, they looked like new inside. The customers all change their oil faithfully at 5K miles. I know the oil can go a lot longer but, if you keep clean oil in the engine the dirty oil doesn't eat up the plastic components as fast. Timing guides, breather hoses, turbo ducts etc.... The turbo feed and return lines don't get clogged . When tell people to change their oil every 5K miles, they tell me BMW says change it at 11K, 15K etc and I ask them who car is it yours or BMW. I have a 2016 BMW X5D, 2011 BMW 550i, and a 2014 Porsche Panamera 4S and I change my oil every 5K too!!! Trust me It make a difference.

    • @gerokostadinov4355
      @gerokostadinov4355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelbrown306 hey Michael! Talk to me please about X5 f15 15/16 50i if I manage to find a well treaten truck what I can expect? And what is the worst scenario exept a new engine :D?

  • @joshua.snyder
    @joshua.snyder ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It largely comes down to engine care. A lot of people get in over their head and cut corners, or prolong maintenance.
    My 750i has 147k miles and has been well cared for, no big issues. Love it.

    • @TheeRighteousOnee
      @TheeRighteousOnee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exactly. People don't do any maintenance or upkeep on their engines at the regular intervals then blame the company for when stuff goes wrong. 😂

    • @liampritchard2853
      @liampritchard2853 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boys are exactly right. You can’t think for an idiot, if they only listen to the dashboard and follow the 10k plus oil change intervals etc, it’s not bmw’s fault it’s your fault!!😭

  • @750gg
    @750gg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Thank you for at least addressing the N63 engine!!! Everyone is so so scared to even talk about this engine or let alone work on it. Some of these mechanics aren't real. I work on mine myself, reading alot and researching.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mad respect.😎

    • @victorc1611
      @victorc1611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You Sir...have balls. Same engine here...and I'm terrified of touching it. LOL.

    • @252lilmic2
      @252lilmic2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      0

    • @750gg
      @750gg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@powerGPT drive train malfunction, air compressor shot, seat bolster gear broken, ccv hose cracked. Smoking from tailpipe(class action lawsuit fixed by BMW FOR FREE)

    • @dantemontalvo8709
      @dantemontalvo8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@750gg how many miles are you at now? And what year?

  • @suhrents8988
    @suhrents8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Also depends on how the car was treated. My dads 2013 750li (n63tu) has 163k miles everything is original. He has it since 81k and hasn’t replaced anything but oil changes and stuff like that.

    • @Freek962
      @Freek962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good for him not all motors will suffer from the same I suppose.
      Checking the cilinder walls is easy with endoscope.
      Safe drive !

  • @warpspeedracer
    @warpspeedracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Love/hate relationship with my n63. Got the earliest variant in my 2009 750i. Thanks for the vid. Definitely agree, the engine is like one of those prescription drug commercials. Sides effects may include: oil consumption, coolant leaks, drivetrain malfunctions... and engine blowing up.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Benefits includes: respect and admiration from friends, no tailgating from other drivers, 0-60 time in warp speed, women, enjoyable driving experience, did I say women??😄😎

    • @carycoller3140
      @carycoller3140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have a 2009 750Li. When is running is awesome, but I'm never surprised anymore when the check engine light comes on. What I really wish is that I could keep the engine but got rid of the turbos.
      But this being 2020, the N63 should be problem-free by now. BMW has had 11 years to perfect the thing.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tj Semeniuk But the women who are attracted to BMW owners are women with level 10 looks.😍😄😎

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Tj Semeniuk Level 10 women with good personality exist.😄

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Tj Semeniuk 💯😎

  • @jblack3626
    @jblack3626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The N-63TU does fine if they are maintained regularly. You can't beat the HP and Torque for the money. Additionally, parts aren't horrible unless we look at coil packs, turbos, and a few other things; the most significant part of the cost is labor. I work on my own and love it.

    • @F11550i
      @F11550i ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The reports and experiences with N63[B44]TÜ like yours here, is exactly why I decided to go for a CPO F11 550i , which is absolutely rare even here in Germany

    • @jeidmann
      @jeidmann ปีที่แล้ว

      Your milage may vary...literally

    • @dpro5321
      @dpro5321 ปีที่แล้ว

      My well maintained TU died. Locked up tight af out of nowhere. Definitely an improvement over the original as it lasted 90k miles, but still unacceptable in the grand scheme of vehicle reliability.

    • @christopherclaure6689
      @christopherclaure6689 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dpro5321 the motor seized ???

    • @dpro5321
      @dpro5321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @christopherclaure6689 yes. Bearing failure. Mostly due to the long distance between oil changes that BMW so carelessly suggest when they came out.

  • @markg2463
    @markg2463 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have recently purchased a 2010 750 Li. I took it to BMW to update the iDrive and they said they wouldn’t touch it as it hadn’t been to BMW for service for over 2 years however they would do a load of work, including replacing the injectors, all for free on the manufacturers recall. So definitely worth going in to BMW to check out if they will do this to anyone’s that is playing up

  • @vviiper
    @vviiper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm rocking an old M62TUB44 in my 2001 540i. It's on 148k and I'm going to have the front timing guides, chains, sprockets and vanos units replaced and I'm hoping it should be good for another 15 years / 100k miles

    • @dylanpage4106
      @dylanpage4106 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had an 02 M-sport with 275k miles

    • @sammik3959
      @sammik3959 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flying cars everywhere and you still oldschooling in 2001 540 :d

    • @hexagonosaurus5848
      @hexagonosaurus5848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanos should be rebuilt, the sprockets don't wear on those. You just need a timing chain & guides

  • @FiveBoroNative
    @FiveBoroNative 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I agree with Nathan that it makes sense to avoid these engines if you can spring for something newer with the N63TU or N63TU2. It's a numbers game. If you get one cheap you can have a fun car, but be prepared to spend a little. Short blocks aren't that bad and you can go that route if things get out of hand and you still want to keep the car. Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go...?

  • @ID1886
    @ID1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The n63 is a common problem🤣

  • @laurieschweppe
    @laurieschweppe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have a 2013 X5 50i with a new engine replaced under the class action settlement after multiple failed valve stem repairs. Now this new engine I’ve seen burning oil (which dealer says is normal...btw that’s what they tried to say when I reported issues under warranty at 28k miles-clearly not normal). Didn’t get to get the replacement until 68k miles at which point was at shared cost of $1500 to me 😫 and well today, she’s now overheating... I’m sure they’ll tell me that’s normal too or it’s definitely not the engine right??!!! Sucks to be stuck in one if these while upside down not that I could ever sell it to someone else with good conscience. Oh and by the way they tried to say it’s worth would be increased due to new engine, so I tested them and they offered me 10k for it 😆😆😆 must laugh or will cry. Sorry for the rant but if anyone was wondering....strongly do not recommend.

    • @chrisgilbert5484
      @chrisgilbert5484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also have the same model with engine replaced under the Bang class action. I noticed the first fill was low SAPS LL12 oil and the dealer actually said that was the new standard but cannot see that listed anywhere. So I am 40K miles in and change the oil myself every 5K miles and am getting 1 MPG better fuel consumption and don’t even need to top up the oil between changes. My hypothesis is the LL1 oil specified in the US being high SAPS is not good for the valve stem seals and is not necessary now given US gasoline is the same standard as Europe. Maintaining this procedure has made this engine ultra reliable “so far” with no increased oil consumption even while running an ESS tune the whole time.

  • @cjin0101
    @cjin0101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You do realize that bmw now offers rebuilt longblocks from the dealer for $3800 out the door. Included waterpump.

  • @theprodistini2590
    @theprodistini2590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    n47 328d Still Going strong Nathan! no issues and sitting at 86,000miles. Peered into the valve cover the other day and everything is spotless. Extremely clean. Not even oil stained. I almost wonder if the engine was replaced before i got it its so clean.

  • @jorgevelazquez7944
    @jorgevelazquez7944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always talking the truth, love the channel man

  • @damonedwards6724
    @damonedwards6724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow man! Thanks for another informative video spot on Bimmer engines. As an old soldier that spent a few years in Germany based there in the late 70’ to early 90’s. BMW was like a King on the autobahns. The cars were workhorses and didn’t have the issues you find on the modern newer cars (Bimmers)of today... I suspect the design of the cars ie engines now days are crap... don’t know how the quality control got so bad in manufacturing these cars that I have had a passion for over the years. I own and 99 745i and a 03 325xi... have small issues with them as they are well worn cars and I can fix the items that fail in normal wear and tear.... it’s a shame that people have gotten stuck with a big loan on a car that has Grenade on them.... and have to try to sell it in a market on the cars that have recalls and for major engine failures.... again thx for the lessons on these cars ..... enjoying your car projects on maintenance and upgrades!!! 😊🇺🇸😎

  • @RonVF
    @RonVF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello Nathan! I’ve been following your work for a little while now. Great subject.. I currently own 3 bmw’s, a 2005 E60 545 with 214,000+ that I have done all the usually gaskets and seals on over the years and is my daily driver. My wife drives a 2011 X5 E70 Xdrive35 with 135,000+ that I picked up cheap 10,000 miles ago because it needed an oil pan gasket and we have had a 2006 E53 X5 3.0 that I bought from the original owner when it had 189,000 on it and now has 227,000 that runs like a tank and I keep it as a spare because I own the other 2 older BMW’s I mentioned.. It currently needs a blower motor. I have also owned a 1988 e34 535, 1997 E39, 540 6spd and 2006 E90 325Xi. Out of them all the E60 is probably the funniest to drive and I had been strongly considering another E70 or F15 with a V8 because I like the torque and higher hp ratings on the newer engine but you have totally convinced me to stay away from the N63 motor. Ive strongly been considering a Porsche Cayenne with a V8 so I guess I’ll keep that in my focus going forward. Okay all that said, I would like to hear what the thoughts on the N55 engines are. Short of the pan gasket or other gasket issues, I’ve read and seen issues with premature cam bearings failing, what else? I am looked at a 2012 Xdrive35 with 197,500 thats needs a water pump that I might be able to pick up a bargain pricing. Thanks

  • @brianandrews7099
    @brianandrews7099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Did BMW hire all the engine designers that Chrysler laid off?

  • @maxthemaltesedog3597
    @maxthemaltesedog3597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have two friends with the same car . Both drive a 2011 750i . One has never had a problem and the other sold it super cheap because the engine ceased . They both had 120,000 km approximately on their cars . It's also luck of the draw . I love n55 535i but would never take this risk .

  • @longbowdt
    @longbowdt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sage advice, and scary too. Luckily my dream car has the S54 engine (E86 Z4M Coupe). I hope you have no grenade stories about that one! :)

    • @tristanrees4517
      @tristanrees4517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      longbowdt the s54 is one of the greatest engines of all time, this is gonna be praised like the 2jz

  • @nismoking10
    @nismoking10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i work in Finland as a mechanic we have BMW service and a 750i came in that a customer was test driving a car from an another dealership and it blew up on the test drive lol i guess he was lucky 😂

    • @agreatd
      @agreatd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What year? Is the 2019-2020 n63 better? Like in m850i

    • @cosmos2382
      @cosmos2382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@agreatdyeah

  • @geemanbmw
    @geemanbmw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nathan thank you for making this video. Maybe in the near future you can make some videos on repairs on this N63 I know that's asking a lot lol.

  • @ManishKumar-iv7ld
    @ManishKumar-iv7ld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic Video (as Always) - Thanks :)

  • @6lemans10
    @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Watching this video will make Scotty Kilmer happy!😁

    • @sanchogaming3019
      @sanchogaming3019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just get a Toyota

    • @robertsrepairmobileservice9104
      @robertsrepairmobileservice9104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I absolutely cannot stand that guy & his videos

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robertsrepairmobileservice9104 Why?? His delivery can be annoying, but most of his advice is solid.

    • @MarkGelderland
      @MarkGelderland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@6lemans10 No it's not. Scotty Kilmer is a complete “non car guy” propped-up boring Asian car nut hugging clown. Last person I’d take car buying advice from.

  • @ramp7t
    @ramp7t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'm old school, BMW makes great 6 cylinder engines.

    • @Yolonda69420
      @Yolonda69420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mark L. Any inline 6 before the n51/n52 you’re golden. Pre 2006!!!

    • @eurosquirrel
      @eurosquirrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yolonda69420 I like my N52K's i have 2 of them. One M52 and one N54.

    • @jrey9715
      @jrey9715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup m54 over here 💪🏽

    • @eurosquirrel
      @eurosquirrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Lauren Anderson only when you don't maintain it. Stock tune, Mines almost at 200k :)

    • @SGIMartin
      @SGIMartin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of all the old bmws I've had, the m57 is my favorite - sounds like a tractor, but damn it runs smooth

  • @allamericanconex
    @allamericanconex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2011 750LI 60K miles the engine was taken care of by the civil suit. If the N63 is rebuilt, will that alleviate the concerns? If I purchased the long block from BMW and replace the engine, will it last longer? We missed all the bad news before we purchased the car. Thanks in advance for your help. Bery Good Video

  • @pl1611
    @pl1611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2012 BMW 750Li xDrive, work on everything myself, don't buy one if you don't want to spend money on maintenance. Do not neglect it and avoid doing preventative maintenance to it. If you are not mechanically inclined, going to the shop every issue will leave you broke.

  • @pchansen100
    @pchansen100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The N63B44M3 that’s in 2018 and above vehicles is basically a re-engineered N63 and is reliable...so far. In fact, I’m kinda surprised they kept the n63 designation. It’s still a little nuclear reactor so time will tell what all that residual heat will do to the components.

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thought they fixed the issues .I uh an n63
      And it’s a nightmare on the oil consumption and the issues. With these seals and rubbers .
      Why buy a car and every 50k miles your afraid u need to pay 6/7/8/9/10 grand in expenses to fix.
      Don’t drive those things in sport mode
      Don’t step on the gas insanely and for long periods of time
      Change oil on time & have oil additives
      Seen people have solutions to those problems that bmw should have done themselves .
      Ventilations, heat shielding,
      And bmw and mechanics over charge .
      The bmw dealer should have a sorry note to customers by charging less than 2k for repairs to n63’s and make stronger better parts everytime

    • @hexagonosaurus5848
      @hexagonosaurus5848 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@48hourrecordsteam45sport mode has nothing to do with these falling apart😂😂😂😂

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hexagonosaurus5848 there is reasons ,
      And excessive race driving ,
      Revving , over heating

    • @hexagonosaurus5848
      @hexagonosaurus5848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@48hourrecordsteam45 sport mode has nothing to do with that

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hexagonosaurus5848 Jesus fuckinh Christ man, leave me the fuck alone

  • @bmwmpower326
    @bmwmpower326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot brother
    God bless you

  • @danielhern3000
    @danielhern3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you you have just talked me out of buying one.
    Good vid

  • @clevelandaeromotive
    @clevelandaeromotive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Huh. All this is covered up to 110,000 miles by BMW on my 2014 X6 with the N63tu. Had the valve seal wear at 45K miles COVERED 100% by BMW. The “tu” turbo waste gate issue were fixed. The “tu” was introduced in 2013.

  • @BLAZENYCBLACKOPS
    @BLAZENYCBLACKOPS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Nathan’s BMW Workshop don’t forget about the valve stem seals, easy $2 grand if you have a mechanic do it, obviously much cheaper if you can swap them out yourself. Of course you’ll have to either rent or purchase the valve stem seal tool kit as well, and have a good 20-30 labor hours combined with mechanical experience. Anyone who has excessive smoking out of their exhaust after a long period of idling should first replace their PCV’s, it’s definitely worth a shot before replacing the valve stem seals because it can resolve the issue for much cheaper and a much easier DIY job, there’s a great TH-cam channel called Tim’s BMW Repairs and Information. This guy knows his stuff just like Nathan and his videos are extremely informative.

  • @robwiseman8302
    @robwiseman8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 13’ 550i. I nuked the stock motor at about 80k miles. Threw a rod into orbit. Put a new long block in for $11k. Running strong at 111k miles.... for now. Might tune it, catless down pipe it, delete the resonators and hoon it for all she’s worth. Might get a week out of the n63, might get an hour. That’s the fun of it.

  • @123heraz
    @123heraz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man for letting us know . Please what is the engine clicking sound at the end of the video Is It Piston lifter.

  • @phillloyd8625
    @phillloyd8625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am happy with my M54B30 engine now it has had all the bits done to it 👍

  • @Troy-fv9uq
    @Troy-fv9uq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonder how the M850i N63 is holding up? That’s the (newest) N63 engine. It been out for 2 years and haven’t heard any negatives.

  • @adamx12m
    @adamx12m 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'd rather deal with fixable issues like that on a E60 M5 than gamble with an ebay engine replacement + headaches you mentioned. Great info, thanks.

    • @mustafehusen9451
      @mustafehusen9451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree I rather have n63 problem then v10

  • @curtishouze1471
    @curtishouze1471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an awesome video!!! I was talking to a friend back on the 5th of January, and he was talking about buying a 2015 750. I knew they had problems but this is ridiculous and very discouraging.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Show him this video.😑

    • @gruponemesis
      @gruponemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      mine has been rock solid...the 2014 and 2015 750's are the sweet spot IMO

  • @RaztechPowersports
    @RaztechPowersports 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen any better results on the n63tu2? 2016 and up okay?

  • @chente8318
    @chente8318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the advice thank you for the video

  • @MrTruthAddict
    @MrTruthAddict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if you could pop an n62 in those cars. I love/hate my n62 in my 05 X5. When they're running properly they're great. Bought this one for 500 with a bad engine. Got lucky with a junkyard engine for $400. I swapped out the stock thermostat and popped in a 90c thermo. Those high Temps is what kills everything on these engines.

  • @hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951
    @hulk-smash-deez-hose.7951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are exactly right Nathan, bmw purposely put engines out for sale knowing problems are gonna show up, and they only address issues in the next newer model, a slap in previous owners faces😂

  • @antoniohinojos3808
    @antoniohinojos3808 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "N63, its like picking up chicks at Wallmart" 😂😂😂

  • @michaelbrown306
    @michaelbrown306 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a BMW repair shop and I am a used auto dealer in GA. All I buy is 2009-2012 BMW 550, 650, and 750s with bad engines for $2500 -$4500. I rebuild the engines or replace and then I sell them. I change the head gaskets, timing chains, all gaskets, seals, and oil cooler hoses. I won't sell them unless the timing chains have been done because, with the long oil change intervals, the timing guides break and cause the engine to jump timing and lock up. The dirty oil causes the plastic timing guides to become brittle and break. I have found that the guides stay flexible and don't break if people have been changing the oil at 5000 miles or less. Changing the oil at 5,000 miles should keep clean oil in the engine and prevent the timing chain guides from breaking until over 200K miles. I have a 12 BMW Alpina B7, 17 BMW X5, and 14 Porsche Panamera. I change the oil at 5,000 miles like clockwork. I love these engines but, I can work on them.

    • @ihamptonii
      @ihamptonii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing Mike. Great information.

  • @Michaelplays53
    @Michaelplays53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video Nathan 👍Have a great weekend

  • @EricEvolving
    @EricEvolving 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on the N20? Great video!!!

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently n20 has serious issues too. Really turned off by old and new bmws now. Seems like they are for warranties and people under leases.

  • @cindyeva7454
    @cindyeva7454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lead free bearings are a big issue,they blow up from spinning the rod bearings and welding them to the crank journal,lead bearing can resolve some of that.not much can be done about the valve stem seals, the engine gets to hot and cooks them. Everything is very labor intensive to repair on it and due to complexity there is almost always something leaking,failing,ect.

  • @carycoller3140
    @carycoller3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like my 2009 750Li, but I hate the engine oil consumption. It's insane.

  • @dontellsmith7890
    @dontellsmith7890 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the power
    Output, I’m a military technician, is there a way to prevent this from happening? Is there a way to bulletproof it?

    • @az7378
      @az7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy an IS-F.

    • @yearight1800
      @yearight1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholasfernandez2573 e55 is crap Lexus is better

  • @BMWMTheUDM
    @BMWMTheUDM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my550i xdrive but she blewup the other day. The dealership said that it would be about 16k to replace engine and various components. Question is it BMW still liable for that engine since it falls under the protocols of the recall??

    • @ranmas2004
      @ranmas2004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what year?

  • @uofan1
    @uofan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think of the 540i?

  • @suneesra7074
    @suneesra7074 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was about to buy a 2015 bmw 650i today that needed a new engine due to u joint breaking and putting a hole in the block. Car looks nice 120,000 kms but after watching your video I think I'm gonna take a pass. What you said is 100% right

  • @sayg1621
    @sayg1621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an 2011 550i gt. I love the car a lot. But yea the engine is not good. I haven’t had any major problems but do know the it has bad heat problems (obviously from the two turbos in the v) and some times the engine runs too lean or rich. Definitely a ticking time bomb. But loved the video and making people aware. I probably not going to buy any bmw after this one

  • @fastboatster
    @fastboatster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw some f10 550is on the cl with more than 130kmiles. So some of these do last. I wonder if you can do something to make the n63 last? I've heard that low temp thermostat and reflash which makes it run cooler helps

    • @batdevice
      @batdevice 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder too, I have a 2011 550i with just 36,660 miles on it. I already replaced the Injectors, Plugs and High Pressure fuel pumps. I am changing the oil every 5k. I still love the way the power roles on when flying down the autobahn!

    • @bayareaartist999
      @bayareaartist999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is something you can do to make it last. Go out once a week start the car move it to anothere spot then turn it off til next week.

  • @georgemitablinda3765
    @georgemitablinda3765 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about 2020, 550i, N63TU3 ? If u do oil change every 5k miles and fluids check regularly?

  • @CJOTF
    @CJOTF 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2019 750 what do you think about the newer models

  • @HarrySingh-zg1pr
    @HarrySingh-zg1pr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What are your thoughts on a tuned and deleted 335d?

  • @noah6311
    @noah6311 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question, I have a 2010 BMW 550i that need a valve job because it’s blowing out white smoke from the exhaust is it worth fixing?

  • @veganwally
    @veganwally 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice sound on this video.

  • @IlIlIl0O0O0
    @IlIlIl0O0O0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alll engines after 2014 have had a decent upgrade. Then again 2018. They have become extremely reliable. Most people just hear the problems of the early versions in combination with owners that couldn't or wouldn't afford decent maintenance...

  • @timw2083
    @timw2083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the candid comments

  • @robcme77
    @robcme77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I work on my BMW X6 50i myself and im a youtube mechanic lol...its a 2010,, 35,000 miles when purchase in 2015 and in 2021 I still have it with 79,000 miles...yeaaaaaa

  • @2rareamg108
    @2rareamg108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 2013 bmw 550i it had the n63 one day my friend drove it and now it won’t start or turn over unless the only way to turn over is by using the starter wire but still won’t start

  • @motionman0
    @motionman0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an 11 F10 550 with the N63. My girlfriend bought it used. It is a joke! quart go oil after 700 miles! (And this after I had the voluntary recall also known as the "customer care package"!) That included new valve seals. It did reduce the smoke bellowing out of exhaust.But it still burns oil! Next the coolant needs refills often! After getting some work done on it for a fuel pump...The battery caught on fire one night driving it home. They replaced everything in the trunk area...FREE! Needed to replace Ignition Coils too! Now stuff that I do not see much that I am sure happens on a lot of BMW Interiors...Button decals rub off. There is this gooey crap that is where the door handle is inside the car. Is rubs off on your hand when opening the car. It is SHIT! But I have 130,000 on it. :)

  • @gruponemesis
    @gruponemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    N63TU is solid. I encourage any of your subscribers to look it up. You might find a few with a few problems...but its definitely not a trend. N63TU was put in 750's 2014-2018. 550 and down are all trash IMO...they dilute the brand

    • @joe7801
      @joe7801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have the new N63tu in my 2013 BMW 750i. The N63tu started in 2013 for the 750. And 2014 for the 550

    • @gruponemesis
      @gruponemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joe7801 didnt know that...how has it been for you?? im at 80,000 miles...flawless. it does eat oil though...and other than the hideous run flats...shes been a dream

    • @nedlles123
      @nedlles123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a bmw 550i 2014 with the n63tu with 87000 miles on it. I have changed 2 ignition coils and 8 sparkplugs after it got misfire on cylinder 1 and 2. Only problem for me so far.

    • @gruponemesis
      @gruponemesis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nedlles123 what codes did it shoot? Did it say "damaging exhaust gas after starting up"

    • @nedlles123
      @nedlles123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gruponemesis I got misfire cylinder 1 and 2 codes

  • @binniedj
    @binniedj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "The N63 is like picking up girls at Walmart"
    Nathan is nuts!!!!!!!

  • @ronnie3887
    @ronnie3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I was about to purchase a BMW 2016 - 750iL with a twin turbo 4.4 litre - 93000 kms for $48000. Is this a bad buy ?

  • @Eazykilldavis
    @Eazykilldavis ปีที่แล้ว

    I found a 2020 750i for a few hundred dollars, blown engine. I have a few n54s lying around. Can I swap one of them into it? and a ms81 dme or whatever it is.

  • @Okorokanze2000
    @Okorokanze2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    N63 . My 550gt dash display looked like a Christmas light. Every warning light was on. Dsc, abs, and etc. I’m terrified of anything bmw makes even if it’s a T-shirt .

  • @eastpantherbenz
    @eastpantherbenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Gone are the days you can make an M50 or M54 go 300k miles.

    • @jrey9715
      @jrey9715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CBenz facts my m54 is 147k still goin strong!

    • @raymond379ify
      @raymond379ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My n62b44a has 409k kilometers but the n63 is much worse

    • @jabraan1360
      @jabraan1360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My n63 has 171k miles

    • @dantemontalvo8709
      @dantemontalvo8709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jabraan1360 what model?

    • @jabraan1360
      @jabraan1360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dantemontalvo8709 2011 550i

  • @nycupperes
    @nycupperes ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed, Good luck buying any new BMW engine of any of their vehicles for under $15k with installation. Had issues with multiple BMW’s with N series engines. Now have a 430i convertible, which has been flawless B48 engine. I’m picking up a 2019 CPO 740xi with B58 engine. I’m also suspicious of the newest engines after 2022, when they upped the internal pressures for EU fuel requirements. The first generation B series engines are the way to go, plus amazing
    Gas mileage.

  • @genekelly8467
    @genekelly8467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And this is why expensive high tech cars with high miles are (effectively) worthless,they simply cost too much to fix, and the great complexity means that you will have to replace a lot of expensive modules. Much better to buy a pre-electronic engine control car (OBD-II) and drive that around.

  • @JacobStanleyjstan01
    @JacobStanleyjstan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    knock on wood...I've driven my 2016 650i for 70k miles with no issues. No excessive oil consumption or anything. Perfect engine as far as I'm concerned. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones?

    • @carycoller3140
      @carycoller3140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, you are one of the lucky ones. I hope you NEVER EVER experience what a lot of us are going through.

  • @TheKeenMechanic
    @TheKeenMechanic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I personally love M62TU and M54. Thanks

    • @liljuz1981
      @liljuz1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      M62TU is a beautiful engine.

    • @TheKeenMechanic
      @TheKeenMechanic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liljuz1981 Totally agree. Much more popular in the North America due to cheaper fuel price, more people can afford to run it. I have an E38 with the M62TU and is great starting point for anyone willing to learn working on the great old simpler BMW V8 engines

    • @liljuz1981
      @liljuz1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheKeenMechanic I always found it fascinating that the e39 5 series design language is near identical to the e38 7 series. Even similar dimensions if my eyes aren't lying to me lol

    • @TheKeenMechanic
      @TheKeenMechanic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liljuz1981 I have to agree with you again. I have 3 x E39s and 1 x E38. 530i msport 5speed manual, 535i auto and a diesel 525d. I love them all but the Sound from the 535i and 740i V8 is hard to match. I love the BMW modern classics

    • @StefanJovanovski
      @StefanJovanovski 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The E38 guys think the M62 is trash because the timing chain guides may fail. Oh, how the future worked out...

  • @theoneandonlyo5
    @theoneandonlyo5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have anything good to say about any s63 or m5 m3?

  • @RouelJones
    @RouelJones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's hard not love these cars and not be scared to buy one 🤦🏾‍♂️ just bought a 2011 BMW x5 50i 🥴

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sell it fast asap now don’t wait , get a 2013 and up

  • @mikimiki195
    @mikimiki195 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nate do you have AIG tools for N63
    I’m interested in renting it

  • @neverendingcarproject
    @neverendingcarproject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, bmw sells the n63 for about 5k retail price. Full long block. They dropped the price for the class action against them.
    I work at a BMW shop. I replace one a month.

    • @MikeL-FL
      @MikeL-FL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Since when? Current list price on a new N63B44A long block, part number 11002296775 is $30,008.83.

    • @tiebei2548
      @tiebei2548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you hook a brother up wtih more info? like @mike L said, it's 30k in the US on the internet

    • @neverendingcarproject
      @neverendingcarproject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tie Bei bmw of mainline here in the Philadelphia area is where the shop I work for sources the long blocks.
      I work at VAC Motorsports. Feel free to call and get if you are actually interested in an engine Parts and labor it’s normally well under 12k

    • @neverendingcarproject
      @neverendingcarproject 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike L I have no idea when this started, but I have personally replaced 3 within 6 months.
      Non of which had 30k price tags. 5k normally, and if my wrong it’s not by much.

    • @tiebei2548
      @tiebei2548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neverendingcarproject thanks for the heads up. I am withing driving distance from Philly. I appreciate the tip!

  • @beyondrepair8949
    @beyondrepair8949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They make good lawn art though.

  • @Freek962
    @Freek962 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Nathan, My 550i from 2018 I bought with 20.000 km on it, at 30.000 I had Cylinder damage, new engine under guarantee, now at 119.000 cylinder damage again... according to the dealer. The problem with these cars is that they drive like no other... I agree with you that the new engineers should work also at after-sale for some time...maybe they will design the in a different way..
    Thanks for the video and all info's. Have fun, Freek Herman From Holland

    • @201aleks21
      @201aleks21 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello i was looking to buy same 550i v8 but now im looking to go for audi a6 55 tfsi dsg

    • @Freek962
      @Freek962 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@201aleks21 Aleks just to let you know that the engine is repaired now, 8 new bushes, so this problem should not happen again, costs €13.250,=
      I had Audi also but is no comparison to the 550i. Maybe do compression check before buying ? Add Wynns to prevent the cylinder damage??
      The 550i is really something else driving and emotion…

    • @zhongxma
      @zhongxma ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Freek962 My BMW 740 has just been sold, and in the near future, I will definitely buy an m5. I hope the S63 engine can treat me well

  • @K06E
    @K06E 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got trapped. 2011 550i. Got quoted 9k to fix valve seals, timing chain and replace vanos. I came from an e60 m5 thinking this would be more reliable 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @jeff222ist
    @jeff222ist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    why can’t they just move the turbos 😞 so it can stop messing up

  • @lazperez979
    @lazperez979 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would you say about buying a 2020 750i with 60k miles?

  • @matreyia
    @matreyia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought an n63 on purpose for my bmw channel... it's not that bad. No worse that N54 that I perfected before selling.

  • @americanmanstan2381
    @americanmanstan2381 ปีที่แล้ว

    So get the 6 cylinder instead? I'm looking at a 2019 740 l xDrive.

  • @freddyrascon4422
    @freddyrascon4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This engine would be so good if they moved the exhaust to the bottom and not in the middle of the engine all that heat is what causes the engine to fail 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @1000yearz
    @1000yearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nathan.
    I just took possession of a 2016 650i drop top. 43k miles. What do I need to do to prevent my engine from toasting up?

    • @vincephan344
      @vincephan344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Buy a different car

    • @JDMSwervo2001
      @JDMSwervo2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      F Lykes trade it for a Lexus. Problem solved

    • @hristiyanevgeniev1614
      @hristiyanevgeniev1614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just change the oil in 5 k no more! When first star of the engine in the morning wait 2-3 (usually 1 song time). When you were driving long time and you reach you final destination DO NOT turn the engine off right away. Wait few minutes to cool down. Premium gas ONLY . Follow these step and as Bmw lover I guarantee you will have no issues.

    • @C63Ahmed
      @C63Ahmed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You could wrap the turbos in a turbo blanket

    • @kashishverma2346
      @kashishverma2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maintain it properly, no problem with any thing

  • @707_gato6
    @707_gato6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought a 2012 650i with 65k miles ... 7 days later timing chain messed up and engine started misfiring 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @lexus0829
      @lexus0829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's part of the recall or customer care package lol

    • @aaronglacier9213
      @aaronglacier9213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lexus0829 what if they say that customer care isn’t available to you

  • @Troymatti
    @Troymatti 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they do any upgrades on the new models 4.4

  • @jessetristan7236
    @jessetristan7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can buy a brand new from dealer for less than 5k I get them for 3k w commercial acct

  • @johnsondml
    @johnsondml 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2012 BMW 750LI f02 blew up and I stuck a 2jz Supra motor in mines best fix ever

  • @r.l.rgarage5638
    @r.l.rgarage5638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely feel this at 90k mine blew up!

  • @jayjaymurrell4830
    @jayjaymurrell4830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m looking at a 2013 bmw 750i xdrive m sport with 35,000 miles. Should I keep away?

    • @suhrents8988
      @suhrents8988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No my dad has a 2013 with 163k miles no problems

  • @Mulepick
    @Mulepick ปีที่แล้ว

    How are the 8 Series 4.4s doing?

  • @chriskarsseboom2200
    @chriskarsseboom2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OLNY THE OLDER VERSIONS had major issues. This motor has been revised and is a completely different engine then the 2012 era

  • @terminator4974
    @terminator4974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for making this was about to drop 50k euro

  • @skillz1855
    @skillz1855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've replaced a 2014 N63 already.. 71k on it

  • @justlookingaround6275
    @justlookingaround6275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the worst nightmare. vanos broken at 60k miles and the timing chain at 62k. f10 550i

  • @jasonsmall1279
    @jasonsmall1279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    anyone know any video links for replacing the y-line on the n63 engine. I have a 2012 650i

    • @aaronglacier9213
      @aaronglacier9213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How’s yours doing I just bought a 2012 650i? How many miles you at

    • @jasonsmall1279
      @jasonsmall1279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aaronglacier9213 I was only at 48k miles when I wrote this but I'm at 90k now unfortunately. the cars a beast and still going strong with no major repairs after the Y line which cracks after 50k miles especially for a 2012. great car I love it and really don't want nothing new

    • @aaronglacier9213
      @aaronglacier9213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonsmall1279 that eases my anxiety a bit with this car. I’m in love with it but am aware of others misfortune &’ hope I’m spared with mine as you have been

  • @binniedj
    @binniedj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this video. I WAS going to get an F10 550 about five years ago but learned about the problems with the N63 engine. I ended up getting an F10 535 instead but you've got me a little worried about my N55 engine with the comments you made in this video about that motor. Please do a video on the N55 engine when you can. I'd like to believe I've treated the car well with maintenance and feel like its treated me well in return but would really like to hear your thoughts and see a video on the N55 engine from you. Thanks again for what you do on this channel.

    • @frankburn6312
      @frankburn6312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      binniedj it’s easy. Injectors, coils, hvfp, water pump thermostat , oil filter adapter, belt and tensioner , turbos , intake valves walnut shell blasting , couple of coolant hoses , valve cover gasket, oil pan gasket. It’s not the engine that is the issue , it’s all the stuff on it.

    • @binniedj
      @binniedj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankburn6312 Say all that 3 times fast

    • @geemanbmw
      @geemanbmw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@binniedj 😛

    • @nathanpendleton9733
      @nathanpendleton9733 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had my 2011 e90 n55 for almost 3years. I have to say it's been pretty reliable (knock on wood 🤛)!!!!! I got the car with 36k miles on it and now its pushing close to 70k. The only issues I've had was cracked coolant reservoir (easy/cheap fix ) and power steering pump went out (cost me $400). What's impressed me the most about the car is how its held up with running a tune and a few other bolt-ons with no other issues!!! That includes some hwy runs almost every weekend in good ol Mexico and week day city driving. I'm sure you've heard maintenance is the key to keeping these motors running well. That definitely is true! Just make sure u stay on your scheduled maintenance! It also helps with cost if you can do some of the wrenching yourself. What makes these cars super expensive is having to take it to your mechanic every time you encounter an issue! Theres plenty of n55 parts out there, so there not to expensive if you do some shopping around for them.

  • @shock377
    @shock377 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did valve covers on this n63 2013 750i and now car has long start and crank sensor missing signal code checked all my connections and everything is connected