Appreciate the honest review. I stuck with the r5 as a portrait photographer, and plenty fast. If you’re a sports photographer I could see the benefits only. The video side of things are nice but most of you aren’t professionals and honestly don’t need it. It’s more of a want vs a need. The $2899 price tag for the R5, right now, is just a hell of a deal, so portrait photographers, stick with the r5 and get a quality lens with the extra money you’re saving.
I have both the r5 and R5ii . Love both of them. But without having someone used it, it's hard to explain the improvements. The af is noticeably improved. Video is so so much better. Not just in image quality but in ux. Editing r5 footage was difficult because it only had h265. But the R5ii has H.264 which is so much easier to edit. And you have greater dynamic range with clog2. The r5 looks amazing but it doesn't really let you adjust it much. But the R5ii video let's you really play with it creatively. I've used the r5 for years and the R5ii was a bit intimidating because it does a lot of things differently . But even for just photography it's a better ux experience . And any drop-off is tiny at best. I run all my images through denoise ai anyway so any perceived increase in noise doesn't mean anything to me.
Well done! Count me among those who decided to get the R5 rather than the R5 Mk II. I love my R6.2, and I've read a lot of good stuff about the R5.2, but given the type of photography I do - landscape/nature/wildlife - and given that I don't do video at all, the R5 is going to be a great addition to my gear. Mine should arrive tomorrow, and I'll be putting the 200-800 on it immediately to see how things go.
You are the second content creator who gave a definitive answer on a difficult topic. Your statements in no way influenced my decision to purchase the Canon R5ii. But, I feel a little more informed on the matter. Thank you.
So pretty much you said if you have the original R5 then you're good. I love my R5 and I'm not gonna upgrade just for air vents. The OG is already a great camera.
The sensor tech in the R5 is decades outdated. They should have rolled out these stacked sensors over a decade ago. Rather than milking those old ass basic CMOS sensors
@@DreamReleases Ok but just having a stacked sensor for the stacked sensor if it’s mediocre is kinda pointless. I know people who are still taking better pictures with their 5DIV than others can with an R5II. If you shoot sports then great. If you don’t, eh.
Thank you so much for your honest review! I personally own an R5 and I’m still absolutely thrilled with it. That said, I’m definitely considering picking one up in the future, especially for my next safari trip-it seems like such a great fit for that kind of adventure! 😊
I currently use the R6II and R7, mainly for motorsports and motorcycle racing. I sometimes shoot weddings, some photoshoots, so the R5ii will be my next do-it-all camera.
I photograph roller derby in Denver and like the improvements of the camera going from a 5D Mark IV and R6 Mark II. I did keep the R6M2. But the focusing on the subjects is great. The prefocus capture is also an added plus.
Just double checked my R5 II to make sure I wasn’t wrong, but I have a button set to turn on and off the exposure simulation. I can see my ambience exposure without turning off the flash trigger and it’s immediate. I don’t have to wait 5 seconds like you mentioned. Using profoto, not sure about other brands.
Same here. That Clog2 is glorious. That and the autofocus is noticeably better. Not that it was bad on the R5 & R3, but it’s surprising that they could improve it as much as they did
Nice one Manny, I agree with your points. The R5 is already kinda 'maxxed out' as a stills cam. Like what level of street, portrait, product or even fashion photography would you need to be at to need to upgrade. About 90% of photographers won't necessarily see the benefit. I do a bit of wildlife and I'm into video, so I upgraded. I have mine here now ready to unbox.
The thing is that actually the R5 wasn't maxed out. It didn't have a BSI sensor, and it had about 2/3 of a stop worse dynamic range than competing cameras. Canon just hides it via baked-in noise reduction. It doesn't really "matter" in terms of everyday use, but to the extent that you care about that "extra something special", it doesn't quite do it.
The autofocus and prerecording half a second of photos made it worth it for me. I needed a backup/second camera so I still have my original R5 and use both cameras.
I don’t want to pick on this thesis, but I see it often. Are everyone who writes this really such incredible cameramen, whose work is so in demand and cool, that they can’t shoot without clog 2 and are they will to pay +2000 dollars for it?
Love your Golf R, I have a 20th Anniversary in Blue! Thanks for the great, straight forward evaluation. I have the R5II and love it. Pre-shoot and focus preset/return are awesome for wildlife. I'm kind of surprised more reviewers aren't talking about the in-camera focus preset/return.
Just double press the menu button, (or the SET button) to deactivate live view display until you hit the shutter button again. No need to wait 5 seconds or turn of the trigger.
Having looked at a few reviews at this point, the game changer seems to be colour accuracy straight out of camera and AF. Its way better on the R5 II. That I dont have to tweak for skin tones etc is really nice. I dont really care much for video as long as the ibis wobble is still there. Canon doesnt let us tweak the ibis enough, still cant leave it off with only lens IS. Would be nice if we could turn off just the tilt/swivel of the ibis as that is what causes the wobble. Give me regular 3-axes ibis instead. Wont be as stable in the middle but the corner wobble will be gone. Hopefully canon gets it right in future cameras.
Thank Manny Ortiz for this PROOF-BASED video. You have totally convinced me that in terms of portrait photography, there's no significant advantages of the mark II over the mark I. You demonstrated that with your photos taken in low light at ISO 12,800 with their shadows pushed to 100% in Lightroom. After you zoomed in a lot (pixel peeping), I agreed with you that there's no noticeable difference in terms of noise. We need MORE reviewers LIKE you.
I still have the R6 and been waiting for the mark ll Now I think I should pick up the mark l instead and save my money. I got the RF 70-200 and my next lens will either be 28-70 or 24-70. So, it might be smart to buy the mark l and use the rest of my money to upgrade a lens instead. I also have 5D mark lV. Which I still use when doing portraits of people for printing enlargements and standing still. The R6 is for action and portraits for websites and such. Thank you very much for a good video!
It's pretty much what I was thinking before watching the video: There will be a difference in dynamic range but it won't be a dealbreaker. The video proved me right. In my opinion, R5 is still a beast of a camera and if someone doesn't need the features that R5 II has over its predecessor, they are absolutely good to go and save some cash. Oh and I'd be really curious how the eye control feature works, I've never had a chance to try it for myself so I have no idea what it's like.
If one understands how to use flash in portraiture dynamic range really isn’t and issue. For example if one sets aperture for DOF and the starts with centered fill, raising power until detail is seen in black clothing or a black towel draped on a stand the overlaps key flash off axis to create highlights over the “neutral” fill until white clothing / towel target is 1/3 stop under clipping the contrast of the scene at subject distance will EXACTLY match the dynamic range of the camera sensor no matter what it is. I’ve been shooting like that with flash for over 50 years, starting in 1972 with film and since 2000 with digital camera, the first a 2.1 MP Kodak DC290 with a pair of Vivitar flashes in a Key over Centered Fill configuration. This year I opted to buy two R6mlII bodies, one when released for $2499 and the second when Canon dropped the price to $1999 before announcing the R5mkII specs because 24MP is more than enough resolution for the way I display my non-professional work. i just don’t have the need for 45MP and don’t want the overhead of storing files that big. The cost of the climb to 45MP isn’t worth difference in the view. 😊
Cool video! It's nice to see developments in terms of filming and presentation of material. The following questions arose while watching: 1) I thought that noise reduction does not affect RAW. Isn't that right? 2) Regarding on-camera flash and exposure. In the settings you can set the “turn off flash” function on the fn button. Doesn't this help in your case? (I rarely shoot with flash, but this seemed to work on my EOS R, although I could be wrong)
The R5ii has some cool capabilities. That said for 95% of my Shooting those capabilities don’t even come to play. If I were primarily a sports shooter it might be worth considering, but as a mainly landscape shooter, I am happy with my R5 and have no plans to upgrade in the near future. Now someday when the R5iii comes out that might be a different story. We will see.
Hey Manny, Jose from Puerto Rico. This was a nice review. I would like to see you do like you suggested, a side by side comparison shooting sports. What are your thoughts on the R1? Do you think that's something you would use? I really do appreciate these reviews from a working pro as yourself. I'm not a professional, but I do appreciate quality and I enjoy shooting. Take care man!
The new cameras seem to have solutions in search of a problem. I shoot birds and events. The birds are more of a challenge but I don’t think the camera is limiting me. Trying to get a 4”bird at 800 mm is a challenge period. The R5 is a good tradeoff for both. The eye autofocus has been very good. I’ll need to wait for the next upgrade to move.
The R5II finally gives me flash when using the electronic sensor, which greatly improves my macro focus stacks. The HF anti flicker feature greatly improves indoor pictures with LED lighting, so overall the R5II is a big improvement for my use case compared to the R5.
@MannyOrtiz on my Canon R6 II I assigned one of my custom buttons to "Flash firing" So I am able to toggle between ambient light and flash firing mode. I would have to believe the Canon R5 Mark II can do the same.
R5 is currently on sale for $2999 and the R5mk2 is $4200. Are those differences worth $1300? I don't think so. Save your money, unless you got it like that and in that case, enjoy!
@@bladerealm124 The R5 Mark II has really amazing eye autofocus, very reliable. I also wanted a camera with a mechanical shutter because the Z8 had banding issues with HSS (using Godox lights). In terms of lenses, Canon uses USM motors (which are faster), while Nikon uses STM, but the quality between them is quite similar. Optically, both systems have great lenses. E.g. I do like that Nikon offers 1.8 S lenses, but Canon's 1.8 lenses aren't part of their L series. On the other hand, the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 felt too heavy for me (with the added weight of Z8). Canon version is much smaller and a bit lighter. Other lenses I can't compare because I used this opportunity to change my lenses set. E.g. instead of 24-70 2.8S I bought 24-105L F4, instead 50mm, 35 + 85 primes etc
I just did the opposite! I don’t find any difference in lens af speed. I do think canon has the most consistent eye af, but I shoot more sports and wildlife and Nikons lens lineup can’t be beat for those. Nikon lenses have better optical quality but a usually a bit bigger. You can’t go wrong with either system (unless you use godox apparently)
I have a R6MKII and then bought a R5 to have 2 cameras for weddings etc. Really have to say, that I like to use the R6MKII more. Switch for video for example. I think the R5MKII is like that. But I can't justify the upgrade since the R5 dropped on the used market. So I'll keep it. Image quality is still magnificent.
That was really interesting to see, thanks has really made me think if i need to upgrade to the MkII might jest get a second Mki as my second camera now.
Thanks for the straight to the point video! I waited for the Mark II...much rounded all around. Want to try bird / wild life photography so the faster speeds had me sold! By the way, can anyone recommend lenses EF or AF for bird photography?
I'm confused. You use auto white balance with flash in studio? Also have you used electronic shutter only in studio with flash and the mk2? I sold my mk1 to get the mk2. But not sure if I should just buy another r5. I do however like that the mk2 can sync with electronic shutter where the mk1 cannot.
I’ve had the original R5 since just after it came out. I have never had any complaints about the photo side of the camera, the sensor and the images I get out of it are absolutely up to and beyond my expectations. But the video side has always been a letdown. If there’s the tiniest of trade offs on the photo side in order to get all of the things the mark II has on the video side, I am 1000% okay with that and will be upgrading for the video improvements alone!
at 9:26 the sensor pattern noise is doubly apparent in the mk2...and you didn't mention the flash sync speed possibilities on the a9iii...this is why I can't trust hype-vertisers
Looking at Photons to Photos, which is generally seen as one of hte most reliable ways of comparing dynamic range of a cameras, the R5 in most ways either very similar or slightly better than the R5. The big difference is at around ISO 400, where the R5 has over a stop, but that disappears very quickly. A lot is down to read out speed. Nikon used to be very good at dynamic range, but has compromised with the slightly with the Z9/Z8 and more considerably with the Z6mkIII. Canon sensors until the R5, R3, had been considerably behind Sony semiconductor sensors for many years in terms of dynamic range and it is good to see that they have caught up and now similar or exceed Nikon in terms of dynamic range, and I say this as a Nikon shooter. In reality, in the studio environment, unless you are doing something pretty wacky, or completely cocked up your lighting, then dynamic range shouldn't make much of a difference. Where it can make a difference is shooting events, documentary photography or wedding, where you will often want to recover over or under exposed areas of the image.
Great video, looking to switch from Sony….my passion has switched into more wildlife and landscape would you save the money and get the OG and put extra towards glass or just pull trigger on Mark II??
seems like the r5ii is sharper, but not enough to justify an upgrade from the R5 for me....the only significant difference I see is that the R5 has some crazy colors in the shadows when u bump it up... mark ii seems to control color better overall, but again, nothing that would make me want to upgrade.
I was shooting my R5 alongside my R6 MkII and while I loved the high resolution of the R5, the AF on my R62 was stickier and gave me more options to choose from to set it. With the R5 MkII I feel as though I have the best of both and then some. I don’t do video or studio work, but mostly wildlife (lots of birds in flight) and other action photography, so this was a great upgrade for me. Great video, Manny. Looking forward to the baseball test.
@@iabdulhaseeb If you're not in any hurry you might wait and see what the R6 MkIII has to offer. I'm really enjoying my R52 but I paid a lot for video features that I won't use and I'm sure the R63 will have much of the same AF capability (minus the eye control) that the R52 has, and it'll be a hell of a lot less expensive. My R62 has been my favorite camera ever but that may change as I learn my R52 more and more.
@@andycollins5983 R6mark3 expected time ? Any idea? What do you think about R3? I have 14 months of savings so I need your good piece of advice!! Big size cameras impress the clients or not?? I wanted to target small restaurants, food photography, reels.. products!! TH-cam videos for my channel. Street photography!! That's all I want to do with 1 single camera. Thanks ...
@@iabdulhaseeb they’re saying that the R63 will be announced at the beginning of the year. It’s hard to recommend one over the other because both the R62 and R52 are outstanding. I’ve never shot the R3 so I can’t speak about that one but the other two are superb.
@@andycollins5983 I'm confused basically I have plan of getting R6 mark 2 just 4 months used with RF 24-105 4L and RF 100 2.8 + 256 GB card 300MB/s In 3465 USD. On the other hand R5mark2 is 4265 USD. I also don't have any lens. There are 2 options first is buy the 2 lens with R62 or 2nd option is R52 with Rf50 1.8... later on I'll upgrade my lens 24-105.. is it worth to sacrifice more money. I want 4,5 years future safe. If you're in my place what you'll do?? Is it good offer or suggest me any other option!!
Nobody really underexposes by 3 stop so I think that the dynamic range blabbing is pretty irrelevant. Yes it may be a little noisier but even for pixel peepers like me it's pretty laughable.
Is the bigger viewfinder a major difference? I own an R6, and i wish i had a bigger and higher resolution viewfinder. So i think that would be a good upgrade for me.
Th specs sound good but not enough for me to upgrade.. I currently shoot with an original r5 , R6 mkII and a 1Dx III, if i add anything it would be an R3. That would be the most logical choice...
@rodrigodeantonibrito nothing significant. Honestly, between the two I can't tell the difference without looking at the shooting info. Truth be told, I still favor my 1Dx mkIII over the mirrorless in most aspects other than video.
The only camera is at the moment and I know you've tried one is the GFX cameras. They are significantly better for image quality because they are medium format. People will argue. They are not true medium format but that's okay. That's a different argument but all of the current cameras that are coming out aimed at speed. None of them are actually working on quality. They're all going the other way which tells me they're kind of hedging their beds a little bit around video quality as well. People want hybrid cameras. Where is I? Don't really care what I watch my video on. I can watch it in 720. I really don't care so long as the conten but there's always gonna be a trade-off with the senses. If you keep upping the speed there has to be a trade-off somewhere and that is image quality from what I've read. I don't think the canon R5 2 is necessarily poor quality. It's just not a leap. What you're getting is a camera that maybe has a few more bells and whistles with auto focus but it certainly not a leap forward but that's been the case with cameras now for five or six years and like I said the only cam to jump ahead in my opinion other two latest GFX cameras from Fuji, but they are slightly difficult to use and pretty expensive.
I tested thr two cameras against my usage and i could not find a significant difference in terms of IQ. But for my kind of wildlife shooting, the mark 2 is better in every way. My mark 1 will remain as my backup camera. And yeah, bring on the sports. I saw a video that made me want to go find some to shoot, but i never point my cameras at people. Thanks for the video.
I would not ever upgrade or not to get better DR. But if you’re not a sports or wildlife shooter or the upgraded video features you don’t really need. Old R5 is the camera to have
Manny what software did you use to open the RAW files? Because if you used LR or CR from Adobe there is a problem because Adobe it is not capable to open R5II RAW files at maximum potential. DxO can do that and course DPP from Canon can.
Appreciate the honest review. I stuck with the r5 as a portrait photographer, and plenty fast. If you’re a sports photographer I could see the benefits only. The video side of things are nice but most of you aren’t professionals and honestly don’t need it. It’s more of a want vs a need. The $2899 price tag for the R5, right now, is just a hell of a deal, so portrait photographers, stick with the r5 and get a quality lens with the extra money you’re saving.
I have both the r5 and R5ii . Love both of them. But without having someone used it, it's hard to explain the improvements. The af is noticeably improved. Video is so so much better. Not just in image quality but in ux. Editing r5 footage was difficult because it only had h265. But the R5ii has H.264 which is so much easier to edit. And you have greater dynamic range with clog2. The r5 looks amazing but it doesn't really let you adjust it much. But the R5ii video let's you really play with it creatively. I've used the r5 for years and the R5ii was a bit intimidating because it does a lot of things differently . But even for just photography it's a better ux experience . And any drop-off is tiny at best. I run all my images through denoise ai anyway so any perceived increase in noise doesn't mean anything to me.
I only paid $2250 for one NEW recently....
@@OhhhhhhhBugger great deal! you'll love it. I still love my R5.
@@OhhhhhhhBuggerNice! From?
Well done! Count me among those who decided to get the R5 rather than the R5 Mk II. I love my R6.2, and I've read a lot of good stuff about the R5.2, but given the type of photography I do - landscape/nature/wildlife - and given that I don't do video at all, the R5 is going to be a great addition to my gear. Mine should arrive tomorrow, and I'll be putting the 200-800 on it immediately to see how things go.
You are the second content creator who gave a definitive answer on a difficult topic. Your statements in no way influenced my decision to purchase the Canon R5ii. But, I feel a little more informed on the matter. Thank you.
Sorry making these videos are tough to do, but you did an awesome job and I love hearing your findings and your thoughts. Thank you, Manny.
So pretty much you said if you have the original R5 then you're good. I love my R5 and I'm not gonna upgrade just for air vents. The OG is already a great camera.
Non stscked sensor are extremely outdated
The sensor tech in the R5 is decades outdated. They should have rolled out these stacked sensors over a decade ago. Rather than milking those old ass basic CMOS sensors
@@DreamReleasesyou don't need stack sensor unless you shoot wildlife or high speed sports. Stop brainwashed by marketing lol
@@DreamReleases Ok but just having a stacked sensor for the stacked sensor if it’s mediocre is kinda pointless. I know people who are still taking better pictures with their 5DIV than others can with an R5II. If you shoot sports then great. If you don’t, eh.
Thank you so much for your honest review! I personally own an R5 and I’m still absolutely thrilled with it. That said, I’m definitely considering picking one up in the future, especially for my next safari trip-it seems like such a great fit for that kind of adventure! 😊
Subscribed to your channel because you called it the Sears Tower
i love how you acknowledge on how beautiful the r5 sensor is... produces such great images !
Great vid as always. I'll keep my R5, the incremental small improvements don't justify the upgrade price.
same here
Keep grinding! It’s tedious work but very informative information. Great work 👍🏽
I currently use the R6II and R7, mainly for motorsports and motorcycle racing. I sometimes shoot weddings, some photoshoots, so the R5ii will be my next do-it-all camera.
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I photograph roller derby in Denver and like the improvements of the camera going from a 5D Mark IV and R6 Mark II. I did keep the R6M2. But the focusing on the subjects is great. The prefocus capture is also an added plus.
"Sears Tower." Nicely said.
Just double checked my R5 II to make sure I wasn’t wrong, but I have a button set to turn on and off the exposure simulation. I can see my ambience exposure without turning off the flash trigger and it’s immediate. I don’t have to wait 5 seconds like you mentioned. Using profoto, not sure about other brands.
I have done the same with the my Canon R6 II with a custom button allowing me to toggle between Flash firing and Ambient light.
I went for the R5II cause of the video improvements over the R5.
Same here. That Clog2 is glorious. That and the autofocus is noticeably better. Not that it was bad on the R5 & R3, but it’s surprising that they could improve it as much as they did
Nice one Manny, I agree with your points. The R5 is already kinda 'maxxed out' as a stills cam. Like what level of street, portrait, product or even fashion photography would you need to be at to need to upgrade. About 90% of photographers won't necessarily see the benefit. I do a bit of wildlife and I'm into video, so I upgraded. I have mine here now ready to unbox.
The thing is that actually the R5 wasn't maxed out. It didn't have a BSI sensor, and it had about 2/3 of a stop worse dynamic range than competing cameras. Canon just hides it via baked-in noise reduction. It doesn't really "matter" in terms of everyday use, but to the extent that you care about that "extra something special", it doesn't quite do it.
The autofocus and prerecording half a second of photos made it worth it for me. I needed a backup/second camera so I still have my original R5 and use both cameras.
I loved my R5 but the C_Log 2 is a game changer
Exactly this, big difference in dynamic range in video. Photo is a wash
I don’t want to pick on this thesis, but I see it often. Are everyone who writes this really such incredible cameramen, whose work is so in demand and cool, that they can’t shoot without clog 2 and are they will to pay +2000 dollars for it?
@@EdvardKALEN I guess it depend,, for what I do it makes a big difference
@@EdvardKALEN and the new HDMI port is a huge upgrade as well
@@EdvardKALEN and the full size HDMI port is a huge upgrade as well
Your thumbnail had a model that wasn’t anywhere in the video lol. As always appreciate the comparison
Perfect marketing lol
You are right about the images from the R5II are a bit crispier. I did some ISO test. They both are very close
Love your Golf R, I have a 20th Anniversary in Blue! Thanks for the great, straight forward evaluation. I have the R5II and love it. Pre-shoot and focus preset/return are awesome for wildlife. I'm kind of surprised more reviewers aren't talking about the in-camera focus preset/return.
Just double press the menu button, (or the SET button) to deactivate live view display until you hit the shutter button again. No need to wait 5 seconds or turn of the trigger.
Having looked at a few reviews at this point, the game changer seems to be colour accuracy straight out of camera and AF. Its way better on the R5 II. That I dont have to tweak for skin tones etc is really nice.
I dont really care much for video as long as the ibis wobble is still there. Canon doesnt let us tweak the ibis enough, still cant leave it off with only lens IS. Would be nice if we could turn off just the tilt/swivel of the ibis as that is what causes the wobble. Give me regular 3-axes ibis instead. Wont be as stable in the middle but the corner wobble will be gone. Hopefully canon gets it right in future cameras.
Tell us about the Golf R. And give us a photo shoot with it!
Thank Manny Ortiz for this PROOF-BASED video. You have totally convinced me that in terms of portrait photography, there's no significant advantages of the mark II over the mark I. You demonstrated that with your photos taken in low light at ISO 12,800 with their shadows pushed to 100% in Lightroom. After you zoomed in a lot (pixel peeping), I agreed with you that there's no noticeable difference in terms of noise. We need MORE reviewers LIKE you.
Great content, just please consider upgrading your mics to Rode. That DJI little thing sucks!
I still have the R6 and been waiting for the mark ll Now I think I should pick up the mark l instead and save my money.
I got the RF 70-200 and my next lens will either be 28-70 or 24-70. So, it might be smart to buy the mark l and use the rest of my money to upgrade a lens instead.
I also have 5D mark lV. Which I still use when doing portraits of people for printing enlargements and standing still. The R6 is for action and portraits for websites and such.
Thank you very much for a good video!
My biggest problem with the R5 is heating up in just 5 minutes of shooting slow mo videos, then I wait for 5 minutes while its in a freezer
It's pretty much what I was thinking before watching the video: There will be a difference in dynamic range but it won't be a dealbreaker. The video proved me right. In my opinion, R5 is still a beast of a camera and if someone doesn't need the features that R5 II has over its predecessor, they are absolutely good to go and save some cash. Oh and I'd be really curious how the eye control feature works, I've never had a chance to try it for myself so I have no idea what it's like.
As a wildlife photographer the R5 II is a solid upgrade! And I agree, the image quality seems to be more crisp
Same resolution. Same lens. More crisp. Most be some more software enhancement happening.
Thank you Manny, not many have spent the time dissecting the IQ differences between the two cameras. Thank you for taking the time for this.
If one understands how to use flash in portraiture dynamic range really isn’t and issue. For example if one sets aperture for DOF and the starts with centered fill, raising power until detail is seen in black clothing or a black towel draped on a stand the overlaps key flash off axis to create highlights over the “neutral” fill until white clothing / towel target is 1/3 stop under clipping the contrast of the scene at subject distance will EXACTLY match the dynamic range of the camera sensor no matter what it is.
I’ve been shooting like that with flash for over 50 years, starting in 1972 with film and since 2000 with digital camera, the first a 2.1 MP Kodak DC290 with a pair of Vivitar flashes in a Key over Centered Fill configuration.
This year I opted to buy two R6mlII bodies, one when released for $2499 and the second when Canon dropped the price to $1999 before announcing the R5mkII specs because 24MP is more than enough resolution for the way I display my non-professional work. i just don’t have the need for 45MP and don’t want the overhead of storing files that big. The cost of the climb to 45MP isn’t worth difference in the view. 😊
Yes, the penalty for all suckers of speed and video futures are less dynamic range and more noise, specially at ISO 400
Those self portraits are 🔥
Cool video! It's nice to see developments in terms of filming and presentation of material. The following questions arose while watching:
1) I thought that noise reduction does not affect RAW. Isn't that right?
2) Regarding on-camera flash and exposure. In the settings you can set the “turn off flash” function on the fn button. Doesn't this help in your case? (I rarely shoot with flash, but this seemed to work on my EOS R, although I could be wrong)
Great video. Photography stories matter, and your stories are appreciated.
Interesting and informative. Eye control vid? Yes! Thanks for the video.
Oh no. A photographer with some sense. I think you nailed it. R5ii is a great do-it-all camera. R5 is still a great body also
Hi Manny, nice video. I wonder is upgrading from a Canon 5DMk4 to an R5Mk2 a 'no-brainer' or go for the R5 and save some cash??
Nice video waiting on the sports comparison at wrigley
The R5ii has some cool capabilities. That said for 95% of my Shooting those capabilities don’t even come to play. If I were primarily a sports shooter it might be worth considering, but as a mainly landscape shooter, I am happy with my R5 and have no plans to upgrade in the near future. Now someday when the R5iii comes out that might be a different story. We will see.
Hey Manny, Jose from Puerto Rico. This was a nice review. I would like to see you do like you suggested, a side by side comparison shooting sports. What are your thoughts on the R1? Do you think that's something you would use? I really do appreciate these reviews from a working pro as yourself. I'm not a professional, but I do appreciate quality and I enjoy shooting. Take care man!
I love that apartment sofa!!!!
The new cameras seem to have solutions in search of a problem. I shoot birds and events. The birds are more of a challenge but I don’t think the camera is limiting me. Trying to get a 4”bird at 800 mm is a challenge period. The R5 is a good tradeoff for both. The eye autofocus has been very good. I’ll need to wait for the next upgrade to move.
So, its better to wait for the R5 MK III with a global shutter stacked sensor.
Love it. Looks like there’s a negative correlation between AF speed and image quality. The more shit on the sensor the bigger the sacrifice 👀
You look really good in your pictures
Nice to see you as your photoshoot model
What would you choose personally for photography, r5, r5ii or Sony A7RV?
The R5II finally gives me flash when using the electronic sensor, which greatly improves my macro focus stacks. The HF anti flicker feature greatly improves indoor pictures with LED lighting, so overall the R5II is a big improvement for my use case compared to the R5.
Thank you for this review. After watching this I've deciceed to stick with the original R5.
@MannyOrtiz on my Canon R6 II I assigned one of my custom buttons to "Flash firing" So I am able to toggle between ambient light and flash firing mode. I would have to believe the Canon R5 Mark II can do the same.
would be interesting to see adapted legacy Canon glass tested on the R5mkII, eye/subject tracking with a 200 1.8, as an example, THX!
R5 is currently on sale for $2999 and the R5mk2 is $4200. Are those differences worth $1300? I don't think so. Save your money, unless you got it like that and in that case, enjoy!
Really helpful objective video thank you. Facts and common sense without sensationalism.
Manny you are making amazing videos. please upload more videos about studio lighting and settings
I upgraded from Nikon Z8 to R5 Mark II, very happy with the switch
What do you like better on each camera/system? How do the lenses compare?
What compelled you to make the switch?
Curious about this as well
@@bladerealm124 The R5 Mark II has really amazing eye autofocus, very reliable. I also wanted a camera with a mechanical shutter because the Z8 had banding issues with HSS (using Godox lights). In terms of lenses, Canon uses USM motors (which are faster), while Nikon uses STM, but the quality between them is quite similar. Optically, both systems have great lenses. E.g. I do like that Nikon offers 1.8 S lenses, but Canon's 1.8 lenses aren't part of their L series. On the other hand, the Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 felt too heavy for me (with the added weight of Z8). Canon version is much smaller and a bit lighter. Other lenses I can't compare because I used this opportunity to change my lenses set. E.g. instead of 24-70 2.8S I bought 24-105L F4, instead 50mm, 35 + 85 primes etc
I just did the opposite! I don’t find any difference in lens af speed. I do think canon has the most consistent eye af, but I shoot more sports and wildlife and Nikons lens lineup can’t be beat for those. Nikon lenses have better optical quality but a usually a bit bigger. You can’t go wrong with either system (unless you use godox apparently)
I have a R6MKII and then bought a R5 to have 2 cameras for weddings etc. Really have to say, that I like to use the R6MKII more. Switch for video for example. I think the R5MKII is like that. But I can't justify the upgrade since the R5 dropped on the used market. So I'll keep it. Image quality is still magnificent.
That was really interesting to see, thanks has really made me think if i need to upgrade to the MkII might jest get a second Mki as my second camera now.
I have an R5 and it also does a 1/250th flash sync speed with e 1st curtain shutter.
Thanks for the straight to the point video! I waited for the Mark II...much rounded all around. Want to try bird / wild life photography so the faster speeds had me sold! By the way, can anyone recommend lenses EF or AF for bird photography?
I'm confused. You use auto white balance with flash in studio?
Also have you used electronic shutter only in studio with flash and the mk2?
I sold my mk1 to get the mk2. But not sure if I should just buy another r5. I do however like that the mk2 can sync with electronic shutter where the mk1 cannot.
Thanks! I appreciate your point of view and the work you put into this video.
I’ve had the original R5 since just after it came out. I have never had any complaints about the photo side of the camera, the sensor and the images I get out of it are absolutely up to and beyond my expectations. But the video side has always been a letdown. If there’s the tiniest of trade offs on the photo side in order to get all of the things the mark II has on the video side, I am 1000% okay with that and will be upgrading for the video improvements alone!
at 9:26 the sensor pattern noise is doubly apparent in the mk2...and you didn't mention the flash sync speed possibilities on the a9iii...this is why I can't trust hype-vertisers
Very very honest review 👍👏 Thank you Manny 🤗
3:09 that's craaaaazy good looking portrait, I will totally try it out or if you could share a tutorial for it I'd be grateful brother!
Original R5 also does 1/250s flash sync in EFCS
Looking at Photons to Photos, which is generally seen as one of hte most reliable ways of comparing dynamic range of a cameras, the R5 in most ways either very similar or slightly better than the R5. The big difference is at around ISO 400, where the R5 has over a stop, but that disappears very quickly.
A lot is down to read out speed. Nikon used to be very good at dynamic range, but has compromised with the slightly with the Z9/Z8 and more considerably with the Z6mkIII. Canon sensors until the R5, R3, had been considerably behind Sony semiconductor sensors for many years in terms of dynamic range and it is good to see that they have caught up and now similar or exceed Nikon in terms of dynamic range, and I say this as a Nikon shooter.
In reality, in the studio environment, unless you are doing something pretty wacky, or completely cocked up your lighting, then dynamic range shouldn't make much of a difference. Where it can make a difference is shooting events, documentary photography or wedding, where you will often want to recover over or under exposed areas of the image.
Great video, looking to switch from Sony….my passion has switched into more wildlife and landscape would you save the money and get the OG and put extra towards glass or just pull trigger on Mark II??
Stick with what you got
Really nice video.
Please do review of Q3 43 and compare with Sony A7RV + 50 GM 1.4
The best compromise is the r3 I think, some say the r5 mk2 sucks at 4k60
Great practical, honest review.
seems like the r5ii is sharper, but not enough to justify an upgrade from the R5 for me....the only significant difference I see is that the R5 has some crazy colors in the shadows when u bump it up... mark ii seems to control color better overall, but again, nothing that would make me want to upgrade.
I was shooting my R5 alongside my R6 MkII and while I loved the high resolution of the R5, the AF on my R62 was stickier and gave me more options to choose from to set it. With the R5 MkII I feel as though I have the best of both and then some. I don’t do video or studio work, but mostly wildlife (lots of birds in flight) and other action photography, so this was a great upgrade for me. Great video, Manny. Looking forward to the baseball test.
Which would you recommend R52 or should I wait for R6 mark 3???
@@iabdulhaseeb If you're not in any hurry you might wait and see what the R6 MkIII has to offer. I'm really enjoying my R52 but I paid a lot for video features that I won't use and I'm sure the R63 will have much of the same AF capability (minus the eye control) that the R52 has, and it'll be a hell of a lot less expensive. My R62 has been my favorite camera ever but that may change as I learn my R52 more and more.
@@andycollins5983 R6mark3 expected time ? Any idea? What do you think about R3? I have 14 months of savings so I need your good piece of advice!! Big size cameras impress the clients or not?? I wanted to target small restaurants, food photography, reels.. products!! TH-cam videos for my channel. Street photography!! That's all I want to do with 1 single camera. Thanks ...
@@iabdulhaseeb they’re saying that the R63 will be announced at the beginning of the year. It’s hard to recommend one over the other because both the R62 and R52 are outstanding. I’ve never shot the R3 so I can’t speak about that one but the other two are superb.
@@andycollins5983 I'm confused basically I have plan of getting R6 mark 2
just 4 months used with RF 24-105 4L and RF 100 2.8 + 256 GB card 300MB/s
In 3465 USD. On the other hand R5mark2 is 4265 USD. I also don't have any lens.
There are 2 options first is buy the 2 lens with R62 or
2nd option is R52 with Rf50 1.8... later on I'll upgrade my lens 24-105.. is it worth to sacrifice more money. I want 4,5 years future safe. If you're in my place what you'll do??
Is it good offer or suggest me any other option!!
At this stage, if you didn’t own any Canon or Sony “
glass, which system and camera body would you choose?
Pentax
Nobody really underexposes by 3 stop so I think that the dynamic range blabbing is pretty irrelevant. Yes it may be a little noisier but even for pixel peepers like me it's pretty laughable.
Bad photographers underexpose by 3 stops lol. I guess they want the gear to make up for it.
I have been shooting on Canon 5div. I Shoot mainly fashion and products. Now started to get into videos. Should i go for R5 or R5ii?
Well done, cheers (y)
love the camera work keep it up love your videos
Used R5 is the best deal in mirrorless right now. In NYC, people are selling them for less than $1400 which seems nuts
still get ripped off with the lenses bro
Thanks for that review man
Is the bigger viewfinder a major difference? I own an R6, and i wish i had a bigger and higher resolution viewfinder. So i think that would be a good upgrade for me.
Thank you for the review.
Tbh tempted to sell my R5ii.
Doesn't make sense spending so much when the OG is so much cheaper now.
You should had also mentioned the weird magenta tint on the shadows from the r5 when recovering the shadows. Its horrible
Thank you 😊
Great information thanks
Th specs sound good but not enough for me to upgrade.. I currently shoot with an original r5 , R6 mkII and a 1Dx III, if i add anything it would be an R3. That would be the most logical choice...
Do you see any difference in colors between r6 mkii and r5?
@rodrigodeantonibrito nothing significant. Honestly, between the two I can't tell the difference without looking at the shooting info. Truth be told, I still favor my 1Dx mkIII over the mirrorless in most aspects other than video.
Great Video as always bro
The only camera is at the moment and I know you've tried one is the GFX cameras. They are significantly better for image quality because they are medium format. People will argue. They are not true medium format but that's okay. That's a different argument but all of the current cameras that are coming out aimed at speed. None of them are actually working on quality. They're all going the other way which tells me they're kind of hedging their beds a little bit around video quality as well. People want hybrid cameras. Where is I? Don't really care what I watch my video on. I can watch it in 720. I really don't care so long as the conten but there's always gonna be a trade-off with the senses. If you keep upping the speed there has to be a trade-off somewhere and that is image quality from what I've read. I don't think the canon R5 2 is necessarily poor quality. It's just not a leap. What you're getting is a camera that maybe has a few more bells and whistles with auto focus but it certainly not a leap forward but that's been the case with cameras now for five or six years and like I said the only cam to jump ahead in my opinion other two latest GFX cameras from Fuji, but they are slightly difficult to use and pretty expensive.
I tested thr two cameras against my usage and i could not find a significant difference in terms of IQ. But for my kind of wildlife shooting, the mark 2 is better in every way. My mark 1 will remain as my backup camera. And yeah, bring on the sports. I saw a video that made me want to go find some to shoot, but i never point my cameras at people. Thanks for the video.
love watching your videos Sir..
Watching from Ghana❤
Eyyy big fan of ben bond
Self studio shots make for great tests! Be good to see studio setups and camera settings in addition to MLB! I bet you got the 100-300/2.8 lol
Awesome info video !!!!!
I would not ever upgrade or not to get better DR. But if you’re not a sports or wildlife shooter or the upgraded video features you don’t really need. Old R5 is the camera to have
Manny what software did you use to open the RAW files? Because if you used LR or CR from Adobe there is a problem because Adobe it is not capable to open R5II RAW files at maximum potential. DxO can do that and course DPP from Canon can.
DPP is king.
No, please keep doing them. Honest open to the point from a portrait photog