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@@Rimour_yt Belarus and Lithuania both were part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. A lot of Polish and Belarusian speakers saw themselves as Lithuanians by culture, not by language.
@@Rimour_yt Also, the tribes that conquered the slavic speaking tribes were called Lithuanians. They definitely weren't Samogotians, since Samogotians were a Lithuanian tribe. Lithuanians were (and are) baltic, not ruthenian.
@@Rimour_yt looks like Belorus is still living in shadow of USSR lies and conspiracies. One day maybe you will have a chance to elect your president and become a part of Europe. Wish all the best for Belorus nation just please stick to your history and not try to be Lithaunians.
@@Rimour_yt very nice of our brothers belorusians that they love so much times then they were living together with us in Grand duche of Lithuania. I have never seen hindu people being so happy and melancholic about living under rule of the British Empire but belorus people are more happy to remember rule of Lithuanians. Wish you all the best
@@Rimour_yt False, we just have common history, same history. History that Russians tried to wipe clean for centuries, because they knew how important it is to our nations and what a unifying variable it could be to us.
@@false8946 around ~70%. Have you heard about British Empire? You know that at one point 90% of its population was Indian (Hindu)? 400M empire in 1900s ruled by 40M brits. I guess I don't need to point you who were "brits" and who were "hindu" in GDL? Don't be sad - few hundred Spartans ruled occupied Athens. It takes "balls" to rule.
Pahonia is a Belarusian patriotic song based on the eponymous poem by Maksim Bahdanovič, 1916. This is not anthem of Grand Duchy Of Lithuania and cant be because this is not how anthems sounded in The middle ages and renesance era even if Lithuania was The last pagan Kingdom.
Sounds are created new styles are invented. @@chippiepoi FOR INSTANCE IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A BRUTAL DEATH METAL SONG FROM THAT TIME PERIOD, because the electric guitar IS ELECTRIC... So, no, songs from the medieval ages don't just sound like anything. You'll learn more about the way time works when you exit secondary school.
@@Orc-icide composers write songs to be played by specific instruments on specific key signatures with specific tempos at specific volumes quite often and have been doing it throughout history. As a former orchestral trumpeter I’d know this because I played songs. The composers wrote how they intended their songs to sound on the sheet music. I did not intend for you to interpret my comment in such a way. The fact that electric guitars didn’t exist in the time of the GDL is a known fact. It is generally understood that composers of their respective times and regions would compose music in hue of their cultures and the time of writing. I had no need to be so specific in my comment. You had no reason to be rude and condescending towards me either. I’m a student at university achieving my Bachelor of Science in Nursing as I write this comment. Aye, it’s not history, but I study history in depth as well. I’m more than willing to admit when I’m wrong, but in this context, neither of us are wrong. You’re just upset for reasons I cannot fathom.
Grand Duchy of Lithuania was a Lithuanian state, created by Lithuanians, ruled by Lithuanians. Belarusians have too much fake pride to admit that they were ruled by a smaller nation, so nowadays they claim that GDL was Belarusian (which is a myth).
@@user-yr3rp2qr6g Because Lithuanian for a while did not have a written language. it still existed, but was only spoken. Most nobility and rulers still spoke it.
@@Rimour_yt no its not samogitia is a region in lithuania and before that it was a seperate tribe, belarus was never ,,historicaly Lithuania” it was minsk, then ruthenia belarus is more russian than lithuanian
@@Rimour_yt bruh lithuania ,,historicaly” are the tribes by the vilna historical name of belarus is ruthenia it was called that ever since the grand duchy
@@false8946 i know that it's hard you to accept, but you were ruled by true-born Lithuanians. All grand dukes and king were born in Lithuanian lands. So yeah, my dear russified lithuanian.
First of all. Documents was written in Old rutthenians becouse there was no writen language of Lithuanian. There was only spoken language. That happened becouse Lithuanians were bahind from western world becouse of late adaptation of christianity. I'm might be wrong becouse im not historian. Second. You are talking that Lithuania was Samogitia. So what the fuck was Aukštaitija. Do you even know what it is. It's second region of Lithuania. In the west is your beloved Samogitia and in the east Aukštaitija. So you whant to tell me that Aukštaitija was Belarus? Why? Overall. You are telling me that Belarus can claim Lithuania and its history only becouse Grand duchy of Lithuania used not its own language for documents but ruthenian? How da fuck does that work.
Only converted at the end of the 14th century, for a long time it was Pagan. In fact, Lithuania was the last country in Europe to convert to Catholicism
@@RazorsharpLT Then I think that it was orthodox or mixed because correlation between Lithuanian and Rus people(pre-Ukrainian and pre-Belarusian) was 1:9. Where Rus people was mostly orthodox and Lithuanian was Pagan. I don’t think that there could be any Catholicism before Rzeczpospolita
Rus is not Russia. Until 1800, Ukrainians called themselves Ruthenians. Until 1800, Belarusians called themselves Lithuanians, not Ruthenians or Russians. Until 1700, Russians called themselves Muscovites. The Russians stole the identity of the Ruthenians, i.e. Ukrainians. Russia had no right to these lands! There was a period when the Russians murdered half the population of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, i.e. half of the Belarusians, i.e. half of the Lithuanians. the ruling elite of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was of Belarusian origin. 90% of the knights who fought at Grunwald and Orsza were Belarusians. most of the territories of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were Belarus. The official language of this country was Belarusian
@@ivanbylina2517 ja ne znaju. Ali v igri Hearts of Iron 4, v modu Kaiserreich, on kralj/ on vodit Bijela Ruthenija, zemlja koja prati Njemačko carstvo. I don't know, but in the game Hearts of Iron 4 in the mod Kaiserreich, he leads white Ruthenia, a puppet state of the German Empire.
@@rimorimo2005 Its Oldbelarusian wellknown as oldukrainian. Was official language after Kievian Res destruction and unition in The Great Kingdom of Lithua, Rus and Jemaitia
But this is Belarusian flag, song is also about Belarus.
@@Rimour_yt You're wrong. Belarus has always been "Lithuanian". As in, you're our land. Nothing more.
@@Rimour_yt Do you have proof and sources to these claims? Your viewpoint is held by a very small percentage of people.
@@Rimour_yt Belarus and Lithuania both were part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. A lot of Polish and Belarusian speakers saw themselves as Lithuanians by culture, not by language.
@@Rimour_yt Also, the tribes that conquered the slavic speaking tribes were called Lithuanians. They definitely weren't Samogotians, since Samogotians were a Lithuanian tribe. Lithuanians were (and are) baltic, not ruthenian.
@@Rimour_yt looks like Belorus is still living in shadow of USSR lies and conspiracies. One day maybe you will have a chance to elect your president and become a part of Europe. Wish all the best for Belorus nation just please stick to your history and not try to be Lithaunians.
Belarusians created anthem glorifying Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Such an admirable dedication to Lithuanian history👏🏻👍🏻
@@Rimour_yt very nice of our brothers belorusians that they love so much times then they were living together with us in Grand duche of Lithuania. I have never seen hindu people being so happy and melancholic about living under rule of the British Empire but belorus people are more happy to remember rule of Lithuanians. Wish you all the best
@@Rimour_yt False, we just have common history, same history. History that Russians tried to wipe clean for centuries, because they knew how important it is to our nations and what a unifying variable it could be to us.
@@ExodentalCADAcademyofNorth GDl is a 90% belarusian state
GDL is Belarus
@@false8946 around ~70%. Have you heard about British Empire? You know that at one point 90% of its population was Indian (Hindu)? 400M empire in 1900s ruled by 40M brits.
I guess I don't need to point you who were "brits" and who were "hindu" in GDL? Don't be sad - few hundred Spartans ruled occupied Athens. It takes "balls" to rule.
Pahonia is a Belarusian patriotic song based on the eponymous poem by Maksim Bahdanovič, 1916. This is not anthem of Grand Duchy Of Lithuania and cant be because this is not how anthems sounded in The middle ages and renesance era even if Lithuania was The last pagan Kingdom.
Anthems sound however their writers want them to sound lmfao
Anthem of GDL - Bogorodzitca (Mother of God).
@@lacinycz9810 GDL had no anthem whatsoever
Sounds are created new styles are invented. @@chippiepoi FOR INSTANCE IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A BRUTAL DEATH METAL SONG FROM THAT TIME PERIOD, because the electric guitar IS ELECTRIC... So, no, songs from the medieval ages don't just sound like anything. You'll learn more about the way time works when you exit secondary school.
@@Orc-icide composers write songs to be played by specific instruments on specific key signatures with specific tempos at specific volumes quite often and have been doing it throughout history. As a former orchestral trumpeter I’d know this because I played songs. The composers wrote how they intended their songs to sound on the sheet music. I did not intend for you to interpret my comment in such a way. The fact that electric guitars didn’t exist in the time of the GDL is a known fact. It is generally understood that composers of their respective times and regions would compose music in hue of their cultures and the time of writing. I had no need to be so specific in my comment. You had no reason to be rude and condescending towards me either. I’m a student at university achieving my Bachelor of Science in Nursing as I write this comment. Aye, it’s not history, but I study history in depth as well. I’m more than willing to admit when I’m wrong, but in this context, neither of us are wrong. You’re just upset for reasons I cannot fathom.
Grand Duchy of Lithuania was a Lithuanian state, created by Lithuanians, ruled by Lithuanians. Belarusians have too much fake pride to admit that they were ruled by a smaller nation, so nowadays they claim that GDL was Belarusian (which is a myth).
there was no such thing as "belarusians" it was just people living in litvians, russia created the name belarus to divide and weaken the GDL
But why lithuaninans wrote the "Statute of Lithuania" in old belarusian language not the lithuanian language?
@@user-yr3rp2qr6g Because Lithuanian for a while did not have a written language. it still existed, but was only spoken. Most nobility and rulers still spoke it.
@@somegamer7964 why they did not use latin ? like all european countries ?
@@alanparker2918 actaully they did use latin, along with polish
Жыве Беларусь!!!🤍❤️🤍
Живе вічно!!!🇺🇦⬜️🟥⬜️
Жыве вечна!
Ґрунт, База, так би мовити - Основа, Стержень.
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Why u lying, im lithuanian this is the ruthenian anthem
@@Rimour_yt no its not samogitia is a region in lithuania and before that it was a seperate tribe, belarus was never ,,historicaly Lithuania” it was minsk, then ruthenia belarus is more russian than lithuanian
@@Rimour_yt bruh lithuania ,,historicaly” are the tribes by the vilna historical name of belarus is ruthenia it was called that ever since the grand duchy
@@Rimour_yt im samogitian we use baltarusija just like anyone else also all of ur named ethnicities are european
@@Rimour_yt also no at this point historical isnt important since u lied in the title
@@Rimour_yt that doesnt change that u lied thats like me playing the ukrainian anthe and saying its the russian one bcs its ,,historical”
Why on video Waldemar of Prussia ?
because this is a propaganda video to distort history, might be made by some fsb or similar structures
Anthem of belarus, not gdl
@@Rimour_yt belarussians is russian lithuanians actually. Btw gardinas is lithuanian city
@@Rimour_yt yes you are :D but dont worry, you were always ruled by true lithuanians
@@delliveromofficielle9551 samogitians were ruled by lithuanians-belarusians my guy, dont forget who you are, maybe Lietuva, but not Lithuania
@@false8946 i know that it's hard you to accept, but you were ruled by true-born Lithuanians. All grand dukes and king were born in Lithuanian lands. So yeah, my dear russified lithuanian.
First of all. Documents was written in Old rutthenians becouse there was no writen language of Lithuanian. There was only spoken language. That happened becouse Lithuanians were bahind from western world becouse of late adaptation of christianity. I'm might be wrong becouse im not historian.
Second. You are talking that Lithuania was Samogitia. So what the fuck was Aukštaitija. Do you even know what it is. It's second region of Lithuania. In the west is your beloved Samogitia and in the east Aukštaitija. So you whant to tell me that Aukštaitija was Belarus? Why? Overall. You are telling me that Belarus can claim Lithuania and its history only becouse Grand duchy of Lithuania used not its own language for documents but ruthenian? How da fuck does that work.
Žyvie Bielarus'!
Who's the guy in the video?
Waldemar of Hohenzollern. In the HOI4 mod Kaiserreich, which envisions a German WW1 victory, he is the king of a Belarusian state.
Oś ce spravžnij gimn Bilorusi
I thought the grand duchy of Lithuania was officially catholic?
Only converted at the end of the 14th century, for a long time it was Pagan.
In fact, Lithuania was the last country in Europe to convert to Catholicism
@@gerso3662 Not Orthodox though.
@@RazorsharpLT The Great Kingdom of Lithua Rus and Jemaitia existed before the split of the churches
@@user-li7fu6rf4n The split of the Churches happened in 1054
Lithuania was first mentioned in 1077, so no
@@RazorsharpLT Then I think that it was orthodox or mixed because correlation between Lithuanian and Rus people(pre-Ukrainian and pre-Belarusian) was 1:9. Where Rus people was mostly orthodox and Lithuanian was Pagan. I don’t think that there could be any Catholicism before Rzeczpospolita
Waldemar of Prussia will be missed
Belarusians are not lithuanians
Rus is not Russia. Until 1800, Ukrainians called themselves Ruthenians. Until 1800, Belarusians called themselves Lithuanians, not Ruthenians or Russians. Until 1700, Russians called themselves Muscovites. The Russians stole the identity of the Ruthenians, i.e. Ukrainians.
Russia had no right to these lands! There was a period when the Russians murdered half the population of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, i.e. half of the Belarusians, i.e. half of the Lithuanians.
the ruling elite of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania was of Belarusian origin. 90% of the knights who fought at Grunwald and Orsza were Belarusians. most of the territories of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were Belarus. The official language of this country was Belarusian
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А что за человек на фото?
Waldemar of Hohenzollern
@@JaniHorvat1 а что он тут делает?
@@ivanbylina2517 ja ne znaju. Ali v igri Hearts of Iron 4, v modu Kaiserreich, on kralj/ on vodit Bijela Ruthenija, zemlja koja prati Njemačko carstvo.
I don't know, but in the game Hearts of Iron 4 in the mod Kaiserreich, he leads white Ruthenia, a puppet state of the German Empire.
@@JaniHorvat1 dziakuj
Theaves
if lithuania and belarus formed into one state, this should be the anthem
I'd prefer a mixture of both languages. Some words in Lithuanian and some in Belarussian
@@rytisltu1236 oh my god yes :D
@@rimorimo2005 Šlovingoji Druvio žemė per amžius nesijungs su suslavėjusiais baltais, išsižadėjusiais savo šaknų.
@@rimorimo2005 Its Oldbelarusian wellknown as oldukrainian. Was official language after Kievian Res destruction and unition in The Great Kingdom of Lithua, Rus and Jemaitia
if we do, we won't argue about history then lol
th-cam.com/video/f3MGdXbccwM/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared русифікація Білорусі