I've been lucky with EBay and have a 99% success rate. I always look at the images, the seller rating is important as well as past customer comments. I also look at what else is out there to make an informed decision. But this is obviously not what was described in the listing. While this was a good meaty section of Uncanny X-Men you made the right decision in sending them back. The seller's packaging of the books tells alot about their attitude concerning their business practices. Investing more unto pressing was not in my opinion worth the added expenses you would have incurred. Thank you for sharing this unfortunate experience. It does not change my opinion in buying from eBay sellers. The vast majority are good, honest people.
Thanks for the comments. I agree with everything you have to say. Outside of this purchase, my other Ebay purchases have been extremely positive and I plan to buy comics on Ebay in the future. I agree, most sellers are honest, good people. Pictures are key. Unfortunately, I gave the seller the benefit of the doubt on the pictures because there were so many books. But, I won't make that mistake again. Yeah, the packaging, or lack there of was absolutely egregious. Honestly, how much more damage was done to the books on the way to me?? Jeez. Good luck on your future purchase. I hope you get some great comics! :)
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$700 for those is pretty steep with the condition. They were newstands and could have been cleaned up with a press, but subscription creases are hard to completely remove in a best case scenario.
Yeah, it was just going to be more hassle time and money wise, if I wanted to get them into better condition, than it was probably worth. It's ok, I will just go the long route in finding these issues.
THANKFULLY Ive never had a problem with a book on my end of the purchase. If the seller only showed the front cover i would always message them to see if they could take a photo of the back, and all of them did! Packaging was never a problem as well, i only buy single issues anyway.
Glad to hear you haven't had any issues buying comics on ebay. And, for the most part, I have had overall positive experiences buying comics on ebay. This is definitely the exception.
Yeah, I have from my childhood a lot of those from my childhood,10yrs old and under. I bought a new era hat packed better than that it had fragile on the box too. They're great titles, those books will cost more unless you really search long and hard
Yeah, they are great books. Unfortunately, the listing was too good to be true. It's ok, I am fine with paying more for better condition books, especially for these older, lower issue number books. And, I am ok with working on collecting them over time, it's part of the fun, right? :)
I once had to return a Batman in the 130 or 140's. Seller did not except returns on sale listing. Once the book came I couldn't quite tell if staples were replaced or original, but the cover was glued on. Feel I got lucky they took it back.
Oh yeah, that's rough. I feel like with the older books there is much more chance that the listing images and descriptions aren't going to match closely. There is more room for "creative" listings to try and get someone to buy the book. Glad you were able to return the book.
I have never bought comics on ebay, but am in the process of bagging and boarding my collection with the intention of selling them on ebay or mercari in the near future. To pay $700 for what you show is outrageous. I would have packed them much better. I would have notified you of all dings and tears before making a deal with you. Sorry you went thru such a bad experience.
No worries man. I was able to ship them back for a refund. I have made many purchases since on Ebay and had almost 100% positive buying experiences and gotten great comics. As long as you are up front with the description and pictures, then you will do well. I hope you have a great selling experience. You should leave your Ebay seller name once you are set up so that myself and others can check out your listings.
You made the right decision. buying books individually is the way to go. Buying books in bulk is never a good plan. It will take a little longer to build your collection but, in the end, you'll be much happier with your overall collection. This is what I've done, and I have been able to pick books in really good condition.
For the most part I totally agree with you. :). I took a chance on this purchase in the hopes that I could knock off a large chunk of the Uncanny run I needed. It didn't work out. It's ok, I was able to get a refund and will just go about the slow process of hunting down these issues. The main problem is that comic shops generally don't have a lot of the lower number issues available. So, buying those one at a time on Ebay will get to be a little expensive. :)
I'd focus on the claremont bryne issues and worry about 144 and up later. Those are relatively easily to find and cheap to find in high grade. Newsstands shouldn't have much of a premium to directs because they had higher print runs until the mid to late. 80s. A lot of them were not circulated either. Guess it just goes to personal preference
Sorry to hear this, but you did good. I like to go with comic book stores on eBay with 99 to 100% ratings. I also would rather get them one by one even though it’s more expensive to do so.
It's all good. I was able to get a refund. I have started picking up the individual issues when I can. It will probably be more expensive, but at least I can make sure of the condition before I buy them.
One time I bought a lot of Punisher comics, the pictures showed them in individual bag & board. When they got to me they were all together in one bag with no board and the bag they were in spelled like cat piss and was yellowing like it had been around smoke. Somehow the comics were fine, so I kept them and never bought from that seller again.
Oh man! That is quite the tale. Glad to hear that the comics were in good enough condition for you to keep them. Have you bought any more lots on ebay since? Or, have you just avoided doing that?
On the flipside of this, there are bargains out there. I sold GI Joe 1-50 (in good condition, not pristine but good) for about $50 + $20 shipping around 2017 on ebay. And it took 6 months to sell.
I always prefer to buy in person, especially if I'm spending $100 or more. I buy off ebay occasionally, but I only go for the auctions and don't bid over $50, I don't always get what I want, but the ones I do get are usually worth the price.
Thanks for the comments. That's really good that you set a limit for yourself and stick to it. This lot purchase was a real outlier for me. Every other purchase I have made on Ebay is under $100 and most of those are under $50. I took a chance and it didn't work out. It's ok, I was able to return the comics for a refund. I did recently buy another lot of comics on Ebay and it worked out great. I got the full run of Fairest issues (33) for $70 and they were all in almost NM condition. Really happy with the purchase.
They say high grade and not being high grade sucks. I've never thought it was hard to package comic books safely. I once got a lot of later witchblades in newsstand. Came all with rusted staples the seller claimed they didn't see that. So I got a full refund.
Yeah, accurate title/description matters. I assumed that they would have arrived all bagged and boarded and securely packaged, but nope. I was in a bit of shock when I opened up that box. Good for you getting a refund on your purchase. You should get what you paid for.
U have to really look carefully at the pictures and not buy sight unseen. take your time and look through what is offered and if it doesn't make your expectations then look and see what is offered . Another day may bring better books.
I completely agree. The pictures provided weren't great at showing the condition. This is pretty common on ebay comic listings. I took a chance. It didn't work out, but I got my money back, so no harm done in the long run. :)
In low grade that’s a $250 lot. If paying by PayPal goods and services, you automatically are covered. eBay also generally sides with the buyer. Regardless, you know you made the right call.
Yeah, after getting the books and seeing the conditions, I think they were probably worth between $250-$300. If that was what I paid and the conditions of the books weren't described as high grade, I would have kept them. Luckily I was able to return them for a full refund. It's all good in the end.
Thanks. It's all good, it got resolved. They got their books back and I got my money back. It is a good run which is why I am trying to acquire it. Haha.
I am dealing with a very similar situation. I am about to ship back to the seller at full run of the deadly hands of kung fu. He advertised them as very fine to near mint. And they important books in the run they are very low-grade. I paid almost $800 for the run and unfortunately accepts returns. it’s unfortunate that there are sellers that either knowingly or unknowingly are doing this. I have been buying a selling comics as a comic enthusiast for many years and I’m always trying to be very accurate with my description.
That's too bad that you are dealing with the similar situation. The intentional or unintentional misrepresenting the condition of the books is unfortunate because it just ends up wasting time and money on the seller's side since Ebay allows for full refunds. I am with you about being as accurate with descriptions. Do your best to describe the condition of the books and let the buyer make an informed decision. Then there isn't disappointment when the books arrive.
This is nothing new to eBay as a buyer. You should already be aware that that is a possibility and it just seems to me the way you’re discussing these as low-grade you already knew they were low-grade when you purchased them.
I wasn't expecting mint condition comics. They are old comics. But, when the seller described them as High Grade and took photos in a way that hid the condition of the books, yeah, I was disappointed with what I got.
Bought 100's of books with no problem. Make sure not stock image. Always check spine for tick marks, all four corners sharp and see what else they have to combine shipping to save on ship. Best to buy bid for better price. Buying so many books like that is recipe for disaster. Check back cover same process.
I agree on all of these points. It is much easier to do on a single issue purchase when they can have multiple pictures of the book. Unfortunately, with such a large lot, the pictures were taken a bit deceptively to hide all of the damage on the books. And the description wasn't accurate to their condition. I took a chance because I really would like to get all of these books and would have been an excellent price for these specific books.
Yeah if you pay $700 the books should be bagged and boarded. I found plenty of those X-men books between 150 to 200 for $3 a piece at a local antique store. Surprised he let you return them. Buying a large lot usually means you get them at wholesale pricing.
Yeah, there was a lot to question about this whole purchase. I definitely would not have bought the lot if there wasn't a returns accepted on it. I was willing to take the risk, but not that much of a risk. Yeah, a larger portion of this run generally are $5 or less in ok condition.
i have a story where i bought a bunch of silver age books and the seller put them all in one bag in the box and there was a little pile of paper that had flaked and chipped off on the bottom of the bag
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn i kept them mainly because they were like 2.5 to 5.0 grade so it really didn't make a lot of difference but was still disappointing
I hear you. I would prefer to find these books at any one of the many comic shops around me or through a local buyer. But, for many comic books, those just aren't options and thus we have to rely on Ebay.
Haha, ugh, yeah that totally happens. I always find it funny when the listing title/description has it listed as NM or High Grade and the pictures of the book clearly show damage or wear/tear that would make it not High Grade.
i mainly buy what people would call crappy comics from the 90s on ebay. nothing like what you have here. recently though i bought a jim lee storm watch #1. not worth anything but it arrived and i swear package and all looked like the top right hand corner of the comic and package was blown off by a shot gun. never seen anything like it. there was also snow that got inside.
Oh man, that is a crazy experience. That sucks. I also love those "crappy" 90's comics. They are what I grew up on so I will have a soft spot in my heart for them. I'm sure I have a Stormwatch #1 somewhere in my collection. Love all those old Image comics.
You basically paid $11 a book and even in the grade some of them looked that was a decent deal. I would’ve kept them for that per book price but I’m glad you were able to return them if you were unhappy. Did I miss the shipping the seller charged?
I did consider keeping them because of the original $11/book cost basis. But ultimately, I felt given their condition, they were overpriced. The shipping was free.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn if it was free shipping I personally would’ve kept them for sure. I don’t think you’ll find 141/142 for $11 anytime soon but if you weren’t happy with them I guess you had no choice than to return them
Yeah, I most certainly won't find the lower issue books for $11/book unless they are in terrible condition. But, I would rather pay a little extra for better conditions on those books since they are important books in the Uncanny run.
haha, I completely agree. That was my counter offer for the partial refund to the seller. For these particular issues in raw state in their condition is definitely in that range.
eBay has been good to me when it comes to getting my comics I will say a purchase of $300 or more and for such a classic run idk I might need to buy something like that in person
For sure. I took a chance on this potential opportunity. It didn't work out, so I will get back on the grind looking for the individual issues at shops and conventions.
Ive got some runs of bad condition comics 80s Marvel comics I'm looking to sell on ebay so hope I don't make some buyer angry. I just am not going to read them anymore and I didn't take care of them that well when I was 8-12 years old.
It's perfectly ok to sell "bad" condition comics as you describe. Just make sure to be very clear in your description about their condition. And, make sure to include LOTS of pictures that clearly show all potential "condition issues." That way you protect yourself and the buyer is able to make a very informed decision. The issue with my Uncanny X-Men purchase was that the seller boldly and clearly labeled all of these comics as HIGH GRADE books. As you can see in the video, they are definitely NOT high grade. If these exact books were described as mid or low grade and the lot was for $200ish, I would have been more than happy to buy them, but not for $700.
You can get a good press for under $300. Plus you can clean them yourself for next to nothing. But this was a case of false advertisement. I would want a refund too.
Yeah, buying a press, other supplies and putting in the time to fix them up would have made the purchase not quite worth it in my book. It's alright. I will just work on looking for the issues one by one.
Those all look like Newsstand editions, if that's so then they don't look terrible like they could have been but no 700 is a bit much, maybe 3-4 at most
Yeah, they were mostly newsstand copies which was a cool bonus to the listing. If they were in even slightly better condition, I would have been fine with the $700 price tag. Oh well.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn you had a lot of books there that would potentially value close to 700 though I agree that does seem a little bit high for the condition but it's a shame you send them back I would have probably kept them and got them pressed
Yeah, if they had been in better condition then the $700 price tag would have been a good value for all of them. I didn't want to go through the process of trying to get them pressed as I have never done that before, so I don't know how much more money that would have added to the total. The lower number issues would have been worth it to press, but I couldn't just keep those specific issues.
OUCH those XMen are valuable comics, such a shame no bags n boards for each issue, glad you got a refund, $700 was too much for the shape they were in.
Absolutely. I thought I was getting a hell of a deal, even if they were in decent shape (non-mint). It's too bad, but it has been fun trying to hunt down those single issues at shows and comic shops.
Hi. I saw your video about the damage on the X-Men. Sorry about that. I bought X-Men 135-200 when they came out. I bought 2 copies-one to read and one for my pc. The pc copies I bought only best I could find, then I boarded them in Mylar. 144-200 I’ve stored and kept in an acid free box in my closet. The others I had graded. They were not pressed or cleaned but got grades of either cgc 9.8 or 9.6. I had decided to keep them all, but now at the age of 76 I’m thinking of reducing my pc. I might be interested in trading them for a single graded key if you’re open to it.
That's really awesome that you were able to buy and collect all of those awesome X-men issues when they came out and actually bough 2 copies. What a great long term investment considering the grades you got on all of them. I would love to be able to buy all of these issues, but I definitely can't afford to do so in graded form. You will be able to sell them for a good premium in their graded form. You definitely have a wonderful treasure on your hands! Good luck reducing your PC. Thanks for your comments.
Thanks for your reply and your good wishes. I think I was unclear in my remarks. My issues 144-200 are not graded and is the set I am willing to part with. I do not want to sell them, but want to trade them to a collector who will keep them and treasure them as much as I have. I wish you the best in your personal comic book quest. Jerry
Oh, no worries. I still think you can get a pretty good value for those books if they are in very high grade condition. You should definitely try to do so. :)
I’m in no hurry to part with them. I still want them to go someone who will treasure them, and I can sense you would care for them as I do. So perhaps in the future we can come to some kind of agreement. So let’s keep in touch.
Since he would not accept your counter offer, I feel you had no choice but to send them back. I have bought a lot of comics from eBay an 90% of those comics were as advertised.
Yeah, it was just a bummer of a situation all around. Overall, my ebay experience has been very positive and the sellers I have bought comics from have had very accurate listing info and high resolution pictures of the books.
I feel like you are being too picky. Ebay is not a store. It is just random people selling stuff. It is like going to a garage sale. If you are going to be super into condition then ebay is probably not for you
This particular seller was not a random person selling. They were a professional comic shop enterprise with 10's of thousands of sales. That is why I expected more from them. Random "garage sale" type of sellers that I have bought comics from have been a far superior level. You can get excellent condition comics on ebay. I know, because I have gotten a lot of great condition comics on ebay. It requires that the seller is operating in good faith, providing an accurate description and providing plenty of quality photos for the buyer to gauge the accurate condition of the comics.
Just a aside these are mostly newsstand books someone s old marvel subscription collection you can get them pressed newsstand are rarely in high grade to be honest
Just an fyi, even if the seller didn’t accept returns, you could have contacted eBay and they would side with you. And, for $700, what a crappy seller to not pa k better.
Yep, I am aware that Ebay essentially forces sellers to refund purchases even if the seller is in the right. I don't particularly like this policy. This wasn't a buyer's remorse over having spent too much money or what not. It really was an issue that the seller deceptively described the books in the listing and they didn't match what they were telling me I was going to receive.
For sure. I will probably stay away from large lots like this in the future. Maybe stick to just single issues that offer lots of pictures to prove the condition of the comic.
The books were a lot worse in person that what you can even tell on the video. And having to get 60 books pressed would add hundreds of dollars on top of the $700 purchase price which would quickly not make it such a good deal.
If you care more about the grade then just having the raw book don’t buy on eBay. Most of eBay sells comics that just wouldn’t sell off eBay I feel like.
For the most part I agree with your sentiment. It's not like I haven't bought "bad" condition comics in the past at comic shops/shows/conventions, but they are at a cheap price where condition doesn't really matter. The issue was that the seller described these books as high grade, so that is what I was expecting to receive. Unfortunately, they were not. In the end, I got my money back and I will try again to find and buy these issues.
A seller can only have 10 pics on eBay. If the seller was not familiar with grading they may think they were higher grade. Some didn’t look bad. You paid too much and are whining about it.
Well, I didn't pay too much, if the books were actually high grade books. That would have been a fair deal and I would have been extremely happy. And, I'm not whining about it. The video is to share an experience in hopes that it helps those who might be looking into buying comics on ebay. Sharing things to be aware of and look out for when buying comics online.
i just want to warn you about this i knew this before covid you need realize people sell on ebay are not all comic collectors dont know how to properly ship books i had same situation one worst situation was years before covid ultimate fallout signed got book in cgc case seemed buy after i [ick it up book is loose in case case belongs to batgirl not ultimate fallout book cgc case book is signed but not in right proper case this was before covid and before cgc reholding book stealing scam
Those are some sucky experiences you have gone through. Hopefully you have had better experiences since. The seller that I bought these books from was primarily a comic book seller with thousands of listings and sales. So, I took for granted that the comics would be packaged and shipped securely.
You need to be smarter about how you spend your comic dollar, dude. Thank GOD that you were able to get your money back. Looking at this lot, l would say $200 would be a more than fare offer considering condition. I will give you a thumbs up though for your honesty and consumer awareness. Good luck on future collecting!
I am pretty smart with my comic dollar. I only pulled the trigger on this purchase because the seller offered a refund on purchases, so I was protected. I did offer to get a partial refund and essentially pay $200 for the comics, but they didn't accept it. I would have been more than happy to get all of these comics for $200 and would have been worth it in their condition.
Because I got a refund, I don't think I was able to leave a review. But, this seller did have a very high rating, not 100%, but in the high 90's. And, they really only sold comics and have sold thousands. So, I was putting my faith in those factors. It didn't work out, it happens.
Yikes....i have all those X books 📚, and they look like that ( i was a teenager just reading them back then) 😢😅...not sure if all are newsstands, i need to look
That's awesome that you have all of these books! And, if they look like this because you read them a lot, then that is also awesome because that means that they were well loved.
You most likely would have saved money on actually going through the dollar boxes instead of actually paying much more money for far less comics individually and probably made out a lot better as well,but at least you actually got your money back and can actually try again for yourself now.😊*
Yeah, it's all good. I will just go the long route and find them over time at shows, conventions and comic shops. Plus, I will find more books along the way. :)
I completely agree. Unfortunately, when buying comics online you are at the mercy of the descriptions and pictures the seller provides. And we act in good faith that they are being honest and take our chances. This time it just didn't work out for me. It's ok, I got my money back.
Awesome. Welcome to the channel. I hope you enjoy future videos. Yeah, I just wanted to share my experience on the specific occasion to help others avoid the same mistakes.
I've been lucky with EBay and have a 99% success rate. I always look at the images, the seller rating is important as well as past customer comments. I also look at what else is out there to make an informed decision. But this is obviously not what was described in the listing. While this was a good meaty section of Uncanny X-Men you made the right decision in sending them back. The seller's packaging of the books tells alot about their attitude concerning their business practices. Investing more unto pressing was not in my opinion worth the added expenses you would have incurred. Thank you for sharing this unfortunate experience. It does not change my opinion in buying from eBay sellers. The vast majority are good, honest people.
Thanks for the comments. I agree with everything you have to say. Outside of this purchase, my other Ebay purchases have been extremely positive and I plan to buy comics on Ebay in the future. I agree, most sellers are honest, good people.
Pictures are key. Unfortunately, I gave the seller the benefit of the doubt on the pictures because there were so many books. But, I won't make that mistake again.
Yeah, the packaging, or lack there of was absolutely egregious. Honestly, how much more damage was done to the books on the way to me?? Jeez.
Good luck on your future purchase. I hope you get some great comics! :)
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That's awesome! I hope you find a ton of great books along the way. Thanks for watching my video. :)
$700 for those is pretty steep with the condition. They were newstands and could have been cleaned up with a press, but subscription creases are hard to completely remove in a best case scenario.
Yeah, it was just going to be more hassle time and money wise, if I wanted to get them into better condition, than it was probably worth. It's ok, I will just go the long route in finding these issues.
THANKFULLY Ive never had a problem with a book on my end of the purchase. If the seller only showed the front cover i would always message them to see if they could take a photo of the back, and all of them did! Packaging was never a problem as well, i only buy single issues anyway.
Glad to hear you haven't had any issues buying comics on ebay. And, for the most part, I have had overall positive experiences buying comics on ebay. This is definitely the exception.
Yeah, I have from my childhood a lot of those from my childhood,10yrs old and under. I bought a new era hat packed better than that it had fragile on the box too. They're great titles, those books will cost more unless you really search long and hard
Yeah, they are great books. Unfortunately, the listing was too good to be true. It's ok, I am fine with paying more for better condition books, especially for these older, lower issue number books. And, I am ok with working on collecting them over time, it's part of the fun, right? :)
I once had to return a Batman in the 130 or 140's. Seller did not except returns on sale listing. Once the book came I couldn't quite tell if staples were replaced or original, but the cover was glued on. Feel I got lucky they took it back.
Oh yeah, that's rough. I feel like with the older books there is much more chance that the listing images and descriptions aren't going to match closely. There is more room for "creative" listings to try and get someone to buy the book. Glad you were able to return the book.
I have never bought comics on ebay, but am in the process of bagging and boarding my collection with the intention of selling them on ebay or mercari in the near future. To pay $700 for what you show is outrageous. I would have packed them much better. I would have notified you of all dings and tears before making a deal with you. Sorry you went thru such a bad experience.
No worries man. I was able to ship them back for a refund. I have made many purchases since on Ebay and had almost 100% positive buying experiences and gotten great comics.
As long as you are up front with the description and pictures, then you will do well. I hope you have a great selling experience. You should leave your Ebay seller name once you are set up so that myself and others can check out your listings.
You made the right decision. buying books individually is the way to go. Buying books in bulk is never a good plan. It will take a little longer to build your collection but, in the end, you'll be much happier with your overall collection. This is what I've done, and I have been able to pick books in really good condition.
For the most part I totally agree with you. :). I took a chance on this purchase in the hopes that I could knock off a large chunk of the Uncanny run I needed. It didn't work out. It's ok, I was able to get a refund and will just go about the slow process of hunting down these issues. The main problem is that comic shops generally don't have a lot of the lower number issues available. So, buying those one at a time on Ebay will get to be a little expensive. :)
Thank goodness you got out of that disaster. Those books are wrecked.
Yeah, it was a learning experience.
I'd focus on the claremont bryne issues and worry about 144 and up later. Those are relatively easily to find and cheap to find in high grade. Newsstands shouldn't have much of a premium to directs because they had higher print runs until the mid to late. 80s. A lot of them were not circulated either. Guess it just goes to personal preference
Yeah, I will definitely focus on the higher numbered issues and pick off the more valuable ones sporadically over time.
Sorry to hear this, but you did good. I like to go with comic book stores on eBay with 99 to 100% ratings. I also would rather get them one by one even though it’s more expensive to do so.
It's all good. I was able to get a refund. I have started picking up the individual issues when I can. It will probably be more expensive, but at least I can make sure of the condition before I buy them.
One time I bought a lot of Punisher comics, the pictures showed them in individual bag & board. When they got to me they were all together in one bag with no board and the bag they were in spelled like cat piss and was yellowing like it had been around smoke. Somehow the comics were fine, so I kept them and never bought from that seller again.
Oh man! That is quite the tale. Glad to hear that the comics were in good enough condition for you to keep them. Have you bought any more lots on ebay since? Or, have you just avoided doing that?
very helpful, worth the watch
Glad my experience could be of some help. Thanks for watching.
On the flipside of this, there are bargains out there. I sold GI Joe 1-50 (in good condition, not pristine but good) for about $50 + $20 shipping around 2017 on ebay. And it took 6 months to sell.
Good for you! Selling on Ebay seems like a bit of a hassle at times. Hopefully you have more positive selling experiences.
I was gonna say in todays market 300 dollars would be top dollar for those lower mid grade books
For sure, that’s about the tops of what I would say this lot is worth.
Thanks a ton, this was super helpful!
Glad I could share my experience and help others. Thanks for watching!
I always prefer to buy in person, especially if I'm spending $100 or more. I buy off ebay occasionally, but I only go for the auctions and don't bid over $50, I don't always get what I want, but the ones I do get are usually worth the price.
Thanks for the comments. That's really good that you set a limit for yourself and stick to it. This lot purchase was a real outlier for me. Every other purchase I have made on Ebay is under $100 and most of those are under $50. I took a chance and it didn't work out. It's ok, I was able to return the comics for a refund. I did recently buy another lot of comics on Ebay and it worked out great. I got the full run of Fairest issues (33) for $70 and they were all in almost NM condition. Really happy with the purchase.
Unfortunately to get a high grade Uncanny run , you need to buy one issue at a time and spend the money….hate to hear this.
For sure. I will continue to chip away at this Uncanny run. Picked up a handful of issues last weekend at a comic show here.
Can't wait to start my collection
That's awesome! It is a fun journey! I hope you find some awesome books that you will enjoy.
They say high grade and not being high grade sucks. I've never thought it was hard to package comic books safely. I once got a lot of later witchblades in newsstand. Came all with rusted staples the seller claimed they didn't see that. So I got a full refund.
Yeah, accurate title/description matters. I assumed that they would have arrived all bagged and boarded and securely packaged, but nope. I was in a bit of shock when I opened up that box.
Good for you getting a refund on your purchase. You should get what you paid for.
U have to really look carefully at the pictures and not buy sight unseen. take your time and look through what is offered and if it doesn't make your expectations then look and see what is offered . Another day may bring better books.
I completely agree. The pictures provided weren't great at showing the condition. This is pretty common on ebay comic listings. I took a chance. It didn't work out, but I got my money back, so no harm done in the long run. :)
In low grade that’s a $250 lot. If paying by PayPal goods and services, you automatically are covered. eBay also generally sides with the buyer. Regardless, you know you made the right call.
Yeah, after getting the books and seeing the conditions, I think they were probably worth between $250-$300. If that was what I paid and the conditions of the books weren't described as high grade, I would have kept them. Luckily I was able to return them for a full refund. It's all good in the end.
Sorry you had that experience. That's a great run you got though!
Thanks. It's all good, it got resolved. They got their books back and I got my money back. It is a good run which is why I am trying to acquire it. Haha.
Can’t all that be pressed out but at that price 😢
Yes, for the most part a lot of the damage could be pressed out. But, that would require a lot of time and money on top of the original purchase.
I am dealing with a very similar situation. I am about to ship back to the seller at full run of the deadly hands of kung fu. He advertised them as very fine to near mint. And they important books in the run they are very low-grade. I paid almost $800 for the run and unfortunately accepts returns. it’s unfortunate that there are sellers that either knowingly or unknowingly are doing this. I have been buying a selling comics as a comic enthusiast for many years and I’m always trying to be very accurate with my description.
That's too bad that you are dealing with the similar situation. The intentional or unintentional misrepresenting the condition of the books is unfortunate because it just ends up wasting time and money on the seller's side since Ebay allows for full refunds. I am with you about being as accurate with descriptions. Do your best to describe the condition of the books and let the buyer make an informed decision. Then there isn't disappointment when the books arrive.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn exactly!
One or two of the comics have been substandard on ebay but the staff and sellers are usually exceptionally nice people.
For sure. That has been my overall experience as well when buying comics on ebay. This is really the exception.
wow, great video. thanks so much
Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching! I do appreciate it.
This is nothing new to eBay as a buyer. You should already be aware that that is a possibility and it just seems to me the way you’re discussing these as low-grade you already knew they were low-grade when you purchased them.
I wasn't expecting mint condition comics. They are old comics. But, when the seller described them as High Grade and took photos in a way that hid the condition of the books, yeah, I was disappointed with what I got.
Bought 100's of books with no problem. Make sure not stock image. Always check spine for tick marks, all four corners sharp and see what else they have to combine shipping to save on ship. Best to buy bid for better price. Buying so many books like that is recipe for disaster. Check back cover same process.
I agree on all of these points. It is much easier to do on a single issue purchase when they can have multiple pictures of the book. Unfortunately, with such a large lot, the pictures were taken a bit deceptively to hide all of the damage on the books. And the description wasn't accurate to their condition. I took a chance because I really would like to get all of these books and would have been an excellent price for these specific books.
Yeah if you pay $700 the books should be bagged and boarded. I found plenty of those X-men books between 150 to 200 for $3 a piece at a local antique store. Surprised he let you return them. Buying a large lot usually means you get them at wholesale pricing.
Yeah, there was a lot to question about this whole purchase. I definitely would not have bought the lot if there wasn't a returns accepted on it. I was willing to take the risk, but not that much of a risk.
Yeah, a larger portion of this run generally are $5 or less in ok condition.
Great video, appreciate you sharing it!
Absolutely. Just sharing experiences to help others. Thanks for watching!
i have a story where i bought a bunch of silver age books and the seller put them all in one bag in the box and there was a little pile of paper that had flaked and chipped off on the bottom of the bag
Oh man, that is a real bummer. Did you end up keeping the books, or did you send them back for a refund?
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn i kept them mainly because they were like 2.5 to 5.0 grade so it really didn't make a lot of difference but was still disappointing
Definitely disappointing. But, you do still have copies of the comics that you can enjoy.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn yeah
I hate eBay but sometimes there’s no other choice if u want something someone will hav it 😮
I hear you. I would prefer to find these books at any one of the many comic shops around me or through a local buyer. But, for many comic books, those just aren't options and thus we have to rely on Ebay.
People spam keywords on ebay and unfortunately some of them are cgc and high grade. Some think high grade means it has a back cover.
Haha, ugh, yeah that totally happens. I always find it funny when the listing title/description has it listed as NM or High Grade and the pictures of the book clearly show damage or wear/tear that would make it not High Grade.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn when card grading first started, everyone that had old cards were sure they were perfect gems too
Yeah, you definitely need to be able to objectively evaluate your comics or cards if you do want to get them graded.
i mainly buy what people would call crappy comics from the 90s on ebay. nothing like what you have here. recently though i bought a jim lee storm watch #1. not worth anything but it arrived and i swear package and all looked like the top right hand corner of the comic and package was blown off by a shot gun. never seen anything like it. there was also snow that got inside.
Oh man, that is a crazy experience. That sucks. I also love those "crappy" 90's comics. They are what I grew up on so I will have a soft spot in my heart for them. I'm sure I have a Stormwatch #1 somewhere in my collection. Love all those old Image comics.
You basically paid $11 a book and even in the grade some of them looked that was a decent deal. I would’ve kept them for that per book price but I’m glad you were able to return them if you were unhappy. Did I miss the shipping the seller charged?
I did consider keeping them because of the original $11/book cost basis. But ultimately, I felt given their condition, they were overpriced. The shipping was free.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn if it was free shipping I personally would’ve kept them for sure. I don’t think you’ll find 141/142 for $11 anytime soon but if you weren’t happy with them I guess you had no choice than to return them
Yeah, I most certainly won't find the lower issue books for $11/book unless they are in terrible condition. But, I would rather pay a little extra for better conditions on those books since they are important books in the Uncanny run.
$200 to $240 in that condition I think is a much fairer price.
haha, I completely agree. That was my counter offer for the partial refund to the seller. For these particular issues in raw state in their condition is definitely in that range.
Is it okay to ship two books with a board between them to save on shipping? Also, can I sub cardboard pieces as well (cut to 7 x 11)?
I think that is perfectly fine. As long as the comics are securely packaged so that they don't move around inside the box, you should be fine.
Great show guys, thank you
Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching! I really appreciate it.
I received a book once in a cereal box 😂 and seller had a 100% rating
Oh my! A cereal box?? That is definitely not sturdy enough to protect comics for shipping purposes. Hopefully the books didn't arrive damaged.
eBay has been good to me when it comes to getting my comics I will say a purchase of $300 or more and for such a classic run idk I might need to buy something like that in person
For sure. I took a chance on this potential opportunity. It didn't work out, so I will get back on the grind looking for the individual issues at shops and conventions.
Surprising just how crappy comics can be shipped. Have had to return several.
Yeah! I honestly thought that since I was buying from a comic seller they knew how to pack and ship the comics so they weren't damaged along the way.
Ive got some runs of bad condition comics 80s Marvel comics I'm looking to sell on ebay so hope I don't make some buyer angry. I just am not going to read them anymore and I didn't take care of them that well when I was 8-12 years old.
It's perfectly ok to sell "bad" condition comics as you describe. Just make sure to be very clear in your description about their condition. And, make sure to include LOTS of pictures that clearly show all potential "condition issues." That way you protect yourself and the buyer is able to make a very informed decision.
The issue with my Uncanny X-Men purchase was that the seller boldly and clearly labeled all of these comics as HIGH GRADE books. As you can see in the video, they are definitely NOT high grade. If these exact books were described as mid or low grade and the lot was for $200ish, I would have been more than happy to buy them, but not for $700.
Ive gotten low quality before, ive gotten deals on some. Im looking to sell my collection now though.
Good luck selling your collection. I hope you get a fair deal for it. How many comics do you have in your collection?
You can get a good press for under $300. Plus you can clean them yourself for next to nothing. But this was a case of false advertisement. I would want a refund too.
Yeah, buying a press, other supplies and putting in the time to fix them up would have made the purchase not quite worth it in my book. It's alright. I will just work on looking for the issues one by one.
Those all look like Newsstand editions, if that's so then they don't look terrible like they could have been but no 700 is a bit much, maybe 3-4 at most
Yeah, they were mostly newsstand copies which was a cool bonus to the listing. If they were in even slightly better condition, I would have been fine with the $700 price tag. Oh well.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn you had a lot of books there that would potentially value close to 700 though I agree that does seem a little bit high for the condition but it's a shame you send them back I would have probably kept them and got them pressed
Yeah, if they had been in better condition then the $700 price tag would have been a good value for all of them. I didn't want to go through the process of trying to get them pressed as I have never done that before, so I don't know how much more money that would have added to the total. The lower number issues would have been worth it to press, but I couldn't just keep those specific issues.
OUCH those XMen are valuable comics, such a shame no bags n boards for each issue, glad you got a refund, $700 was too much for the shape they were in.
Absolutely. I thought I was getting a hell of a deal, even if they were in decent shape (non-mint). It's too bad, but it has been fun trying to hunt down those single issues at shows and comic shops.
Hi. I saw your video about the damage on the X-Men. Sorry about that. I bought X-Men 135-200 when they came out. I bought 2 copies-one to read and one for my pc. The pc copies I bought only best I could find, then I boarded them in Mylar. 144-200 I’ve stored and kept in an acid free box in my closet. The others I had graded. They were not pressed or cleaned but got grades of either cgc 9.8 or 9.6. I had decided to keep them all, but now at the age of 76 I’m thinking of reducing my pc. I might be interested in trading them for a single graded key if you’re open to it.
That's really awesome that you were able to buy and collect all of those awesome X-men issues when they came out and actually bough 2 copies. What a great long term investment considering the grades you got on all of them.
I would love to be able to buy all of these issues, but I definitely can't afford to do so in graded form. You will be able to sell them for a good premium in their graded form. You definitely have a wonderful treasure on your hands! Good luck reducing your PC.
Thanks for your comments.
Thanks for your reply and your good wishes. I think I was unclear in my remarks. My issues 144-200 are not graded and is the set I am willing to part with. I do not want to sell them, but want to trade them to a collector who will keep them and treasure them as much as I have. I wish you the best in your personal comic book quest. Jerry
Oh, no worries. I still think you can get a pretty good value for those books if they are in very high grade condition. You should definitely try to do so. :)
Also, I definitely don't have any graded comics that would equal the value of those books. :)
I’m in no hurry to part with them. I still want them to go someone who will treasure them, and I can sense you would care for them as I do. So perhaps in the future we can come to some kind of agreement. So let’s keep in touch.
Since he would not accept your counter offer, I feel you had no choice but to send them back. I have bought a lot of comics from eBay an 90% of those comics were as advertised.
Yeah, it was just a bummer of a situation all around. Overall, my ebay experience has been very positive and the sellers I have bought comics from have had very accurate listing info and high resolution pictures of the books.
I feel like you are being too picky. Ebay is not a store. It is just random people selling stuff. It is like going to a garage sale. If you are going to be super into condition then ebay is probably not for you
This particular seller was not a random person selling. They were a professional comic shop enterprise with 10's of thousands of sales. That is why I expected more from them.
Random "garage sale" type of sellers that I have bought comics from have been a far superior level.
You can get excellent condition comics on ebay. I know, because I have gotten a lot of great condition comics on ebay. It requires that the seller is operating in good faith, providing an accurate description and providing plenty of quality photos for the buyer to gauge the accurate condition of the comics.
If you still need a run of x-men I have a run of about 25 I am going to sell.
Thanks for the offer. I am going to slow roll the process and enjoy the hunt at comic shops and shows. I'll get them all eventually. :)
I’ve had my fair share of sketchy sellers on ebay.
That's really too bad. Fortunately, I have overall have had very good comic buying experiences on Ebay. This really is the exception for me.
I got burned by this guy as well. He marked a bunch of stuff NM and shipped them just like you’re showing here.
That sucks so much!! All it does is prevent a customer from becoming a repeat customer. I don't get it.
Just a aside these are mostly newsstand books someone s old marvel subscription collection you can get them pressed newsstand are rarely in high grade to be honest
That is totally fine, the seller shouldn't have described these books as high grade.
You have protection; get a refund & send them back. Buyers have protection!
Oh, I did. I got my refund and I returned the books. It's all good.
Just an fyi, even if the seller didn’t accept returns, you could have contacted eBay and they would side with you. And, for $700, what a crappy seller to not pa k better.
Yep, I am aware that Ebay essentially forces sellers to refund purchases even if the seller is in the right. I don't particularly like this policy.
This wasn't a buyer's remorse over having spent too much money or what not. It really was an issue that the seller deceptively described the books in the listing and they didn't match what they were telling me I was going to receive.
I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH E-BAY I would not order from that seller again.
Good for you! I don't plan to order anything from that seller again. Haha.
$700 for 700 Comics is much better at a dollar each-"So Stay Lucky My Friend."(😊)
I do like getting comics at a $1 a piece. :)
I only bye chic graded comics from eBay
Thanks!
You did the right thing
I think so. It really is too bad the purchase didn't work out.
A learning experience
For sure. I will probably stay away from large lots like this in the future. Maybe stick to just single issues that offer lots of pictures to prove the condition of the comic.
For $700 that's not a bad deal. They actually don't look that bad, a lot of the issues can be pressed out.
The books were a lot worse in person that what you can even tell on the video. And having to get 60 books pressed would add hundreds of dollars on top of the $700 purchase price which would quickly not make it such a good deal.
Oh $700 yeah I would be angry too.
Haha, oh, I was. :)
If you care more about the grade then just having the raw book don’t buy on eBay. Most of eBay sells comics that just wouldn’t sell off eBay I feel like.
For the most part I agree with your sentiment. It's not like I haven't bought "bad" condition comics in the past at comic shops/shows/conventions, but they are at a cheap price where condition doesn't really matter.
The issue was that the seller described these books as high grade, so that is what I was expecting to receive. Unfortunately, they were not. In the end, I got my money back and I will try again to find and buy these issues.
1/5 review for that seller. Packaged like that is bs.
Haha, ugh, yeah the packing was definitely egregious.
A seller can only have 10 pics on eBay. If the seller was not familiar with grading they may think they were higher grade. Some didn’t look bad. You paid too much and are whining about it.
Well, I didn't pay too much, if the books were actually high grade books. That would have been a fair deal and I would have been extremely happy.
And, I'm not whining about it. The video is to share an experience in hopes that it helps those who might be looking into buying comics on ebay. Sharing things to be aware of and look out for when buying comics online.
i just want to warn you about this i knew this before covid you need realize people sell on ebay are not all comic collectors dont know how to properly ship books i had same situation one worst situation was years before covid ultimate fallout signed got book in cgc case seemed buy after i [ick it up book is loose in case case belongs to batgirl not ultimate fallout book cgc case book is signed but not in right proper case this was before covid and before cgc reholding book stealing scam
Those are some sucky experiences you have gone through. Hopefully you have had better experiences since. The seller that I bought these books from was primarily a comic book seller with thousands of listings and sales. So, I took for granted that the comics would be packaged and shipped securely.
Maybe 200 for the lot in that condition.
That is what I offered for a partial refund, but they didn't accept it. I would have been happy for all of these books in this condition for $200.
someone needs to be schooled on how to ship comics! Wow 🤬🤬
Right?!?!?! Ugh, my stomach dropped the moment I opened the box and saw how they were packaged in there.
$1.50 each
Thanks for the comment.
You need to be smarter about how you spend your comic dollar, dude. Thank GOD that you were able to get your money back. Looking at this lot, l would say $200 would be a more than fare offer considering condition. I will give you a thumbs up though for your honesty and consumer awareness. Good luck on future collecting!
I am pretty smart with my comic dollar. I only pulled the trigger on this purchase because the seller offered a refund on purchases, so I was protected. I did offer to get a partial refund and essentially pay $200 for the comics, but they didn't accept it. I would have been more than happy to get all of these comics for $200 and would have been worth it in their condition.
Just leave a bad review and move on. It happens. It's best to buy from high rated sellers, that only sell comics. Risk you take, for a deal.
Because I got a refund, I don't think I was able to leave a review. But, this seller did have a very high rating, not 100%, but in the high 90's. And, they really only sold comics and have sold thousands. So, I was putting my faith in those factors. It didn't work out, it happens.
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn hopefully you returned the books then.
I did and got a full refund.
$700 ? you got ripped off !
haha, I certainly would have gotten ripped off if I hadn't been able to return them for a refund. Luckily, I got my money back. :)
@@MinnesotaComicGeek-if2vn good to hear that !
Thanks!
Yikes....i have all those X books 📚, and they look like that ( i was a teenager just reading them back then) 😢😅...not sure if all are newsstands, i need to look
That's awesome that you have all of these books! And, if they look like this because you read them a lot, then that is also awesome because that means that they were well loved.
You most likely would have saved money on actually going through the dollar boxes instead of actually paying much more money for far less comics individually and probably made out a lot better as well,but at least you actually got your money back and can actually try again for yourself now.😊*
Yeah, it's all good. I will just go the long route and find them over time at shows, conventions and comic shops. Plus, I will find more books along the way. :)
If you collect comics you should learn how grade.. you don’t have to be a pro to grade comics
I completely agree. Unfortunately, when buying comics online you are at the mercy of the descriptions and pictures the seller provides. And we act in good faith that they are being honest and take our chances. This time it just didn't work out for me. It's ok, I got my money back.
New sub here. Definitely enjoyed the upload being a big eBay buyer. Let’s #growtogether.
Awesome. Welcome to the channel. I hope you enjoy future videos.
Yeah, I just wanted to share my experience on the specific occasion to help others avoid the same mistakes.