Identity V Doesn't Feel Fun Anymore...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Feeling the IDV blues? This video tackles the elephant in the room: Is Identity V losing its charm? We’re peeling back the layers of nostalgia to address the growing sentiment that the game just isn’t as fun as it used to be. From the thrill of the chase to the frustration of a failed rescue, I'm discussing it all. Join us as we explore the shifts in gameplay that have left some players yearning for the good old days. It’s a candid look at the state of IDV-no rose-colored glasses, just raw, unfiltered gamer talk.
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I can lose a hundred survivor matches and still be the most happiest guy alive but if I lose one hunter match I want to end it all
Failure is more manageable when everyone fails together.
😂😂😂😂relatable
Like that guy above said. When playing hunter you're losing alone and it's all your fault but when you lose as a survivor there are 3 other players with you.
Like that guy above said. When playing hunter you're losing alone and it's all your fault but when you lose as a survivor there are 3 other players with you.
Hundred percent relate
As someone that plays hunter. Whenever I lose I get mocked or made fun of by the survivors from the chat and it really ruins my mood. Back then I was more happier and less upset when I lost.
Well.. just leave the chat right after the game..?
That's so relatable
@@Xx_Alex_xX907 it’s not that easy if they also emote at me nonstop.
@@Xx_Alex_xX907i mean they shouldnt be mocking then in the first place
You can disable ‘Post Match’ yk. That’s what I do and I’m much happier
I agree 100%, not the mention the smurfs restarting their game cause their fed up of high tier, even i'm slowly getting tired, i just got into mammoth and almost everyone is selfish, spamming your on your own or get out of here, where did the fun go?
I stopped ranking for this exact reason. Was stuck in mammoth hell for god knows how many seasons (i solo queues). And i find the game MUCH more enjoyable now, however theyve started to add bot matches in quick match queues if u take too long to get a match. So half of my matches are just bot matches now and its not fun 😒
@@averyglendemming141 LITERALLY i could bear with toxic players or doing bad in real matches but all the bot matches im getting is just sucking the joy out of me fr. like i would rather wait ten minutes for a real match than 2 for a bot one
Well then just don't go for rank. Of course everyone wants to win in the rank game, how's that consider selfish rather than strategic 😅 I don't think the action of rescue recklessly no matter how teamate spamming 'you're on your own' when the ciphers are not enough is considered 'fun'.
Identity V has pretty much reached its "Dead by Daylight" state of the game, where it's always just a constant argument between survivor and hunter players. I think the reason that modern characters feel so insufferable to play against is because instead of the devs fixing core issues of the game, such as the incredibly fast cipher speeds, and overtuned harassers, they decided to make hunters that would specifically excel in countering these issues. So now it feels bad for survivors since you can't even play the game like you're supposed to because of how strongly the hunters' ability is directed towards a certain element of the game. Then, they "fix" this issue by doing the same thing with survivor, adding in a character that can specifically counter what abilities newer, stronger hunters have. Meanwhile, the older hunters and survivors are left in the dust and feel horrible to play because of how little they have compared to the newer picks.
Hi Duko
THIS!! its always pissed me off how netease thinks that adding new characters = balance.
Frrr the new hunters are boring to play they all have the same ability dash, stun etc... and the game forces you to main them, if you want to keep winning bc they are the "META" old hunters are much more fun and their abilities are more creative than the new ones the only new hunter I like is clerk and that's it :/
The only OP hunter that got released in recent YEARS is Opera Singer. Ivy recently but she got nerfed hard. Survs have gotten characters like Anti, Cheerleader, Aero, etc. Also you’re wrong about how older survs aren’t getting played. Seer, Priestess, Merc are still really strong, and even characters like LUCKY GUY, Lawyer, and Gardener get played. There’s rarely any survs that are so bad they can’t be played (maybe like TME). Compared to hunters who have a lot that are so weak they cant even get a tie.
@@bakad5458 nah TME still played by many peoples, wilding probally have low played by players
Honestly the thing about the game being monotone is so real, like you can determine the outcome of a match pretty much by how many ciphers are done before the first down and if the rescuer does a good job on that crucial first rescue…
Exactly
The issue with this game mechanism is that too many players are focused just to play rank matches, and rank stresses them with randoms losing, blaming others, getting into fights, etc. Then which will make the problems even worse even you reach higher tier. It’s like a hamster on a wheel just running non-stop and falling off.
I quit playing rank for a year and life just feels so much better without rank. In the end, it’s only a game which is for fun, not for getting mad at other people.
Yes, and this applies not only to ranked matches. I've been playing for several years and have never played ranked because from the very beginning I understood what rank was in online games and how there was a lot of negativity there. But after playing only quick matches, I still encountered a lot of negativity. And the higher my level, the more often this happens. I'm still trying to play on new characters that I've never played before and, of course, sometimes I play badly because I'm still learning, which is why other players wish me death and to learn how to play a character, which is what I'm actually trying to do, isn't that what quick match is for. I think ranked matches have really affected this because players have stopped enjoying the game and after playing a lot of ranked matches they now take the game very seriously and want to do everything perfectly, even if they are playing quick matches.
@@sandwich19960 agree bcs i get insulted many times bcs i made a mistake like??? Its a game no need to get so stuck up and it qm too💀
Same and forget rank I don't even play qm anymore (well I do still play it when I need to). I just play duos most of the time. Sometimes tarot as well.
@@sandwich19960Sameeeee, it’s weird that even the mode that isn’t meant to be takes serious (QM) is full of negativity.
I wish there was a randomized mod where everyone will have a random character with a random built, in that way you will be able to play new characters, improve your gaming sense and having fun, but maybe even there people will still get nasty in PM.
Yes! I used to be such a rank maniac and got SO stressed. But ever since i quit and jist played quick matches or duo hunts, ive been in a much better place. I also turned off post match chats for my own sanity.
I remember when idv just came out and a team never really had to worry about personas, strategies or team comps. It was so funny to watch people do fails
ive been playin identity v since late 2020 and i had to take over 4 long breaks just because of how burnt out i got. the game is always the same, if you don't want to rank up you get stuck with losing every match but solo ranking is a literal NIGHTMARE where if you do a small mistake people will send you death threats. the only thing thats keeping me with this game are the memories, pretty skins and interesting characters.
You can disable “Post Match Chat” in the game Settings
@@decorachan4680 that's true, but i don't want to disable it just because of few people, mostly because im someone who loves to talk in the chat and joke around ..
@@AesopxoxoSAME i also solo rank and don’t have post match disabled because i like the rare times when people are silly and encouraging instead of mean. I both love and hate being in high tier because it’s fun to do well with and against others who play well, but the constant losing and blaming everyone is just so bad. I just want to get back to unicorn for the frame and the gold on my profile
Why don't you search for people to rank with?
@@Aesopxoxo I think I’m weird bc when I get people like that I argue with them 💀
This is why I keep Post Match chat off. I only rank survivor with my friend so that we can laugh at mistakes we make and work together. After rank, I legit will only play duo hunters because its the best game mode out there rn because you can just fool around and even if you don't win, it actually feels more fun (for me)
sorry to ask but how do I turn my post match off? I’ve been wanting to do it for a while but I can’t figure it out 😭
@@OpposumParty87 its somewhere in settings, i think combat or something its definitely somwhere down so u have to scroll
the ping issue literally DESTROYED me as a hunter main. I can barely walk nowdays, the network detector didnt help at all, said its green then red in game. I had to turn friendly in matches while tearing up.
Don't forget hunters can be very toxic too, I've been told to "kys" so many times for kiting as luca.
man, chasing behind prisoners can be really frustrating but some people just go WAY too far 💀
@@augustus_0508 REAL
For me it would be more fun if people didn't take ranks and other things so seriously, it's just a game, This takes the fun out of the game, I've been insulted so many times, and I've also seen other people being insulted, there's no need for that...
This!! I recently played puppeteer in customs with a friend and It was so fun. I like playing idv for fun not for stress, and although i do get frustrated at the game, I like taking breaks to push past that. I think idv is best enjoyed when you push past the serious nature of the game, and just enjoy what you have, playing a style of character you enjoy, rather than if they're good or not. I love Charles, as his dashing is just so funny to me more than anything, not if he's a good survivor or not. If you find a survivor fun, then the skills you develop will come with time, from what I've found in my experience.
It's just a game
In the same time idv players- play only meta hunters or survivors,camp,tunnel,spam,abuse, play toxic,insult you for your favourite character.
Interesting,why idv experience not so funny? Hmmmmmmm
Exactly!! The other day I was playing QUICK MATCH and I make a mistake mid kite (like 30 seconds in, not great ik) and then got downed, and then a teammate spammed “you’re on your own”, went out of their way to come all the way to my chair, just to confused emote at me and not save, the get downed and chaired themselves, and throughout the whole thing just kept spamming you’re in your own.
In. Quick match.😭. Like dude when has it ever been that serious,,, it’s not even like my mistake will effect your rank or something because Quick Matches don’t matter at all!!😭
@@OpposumParty87 LMAO, once a doctor sent "you're on your own" when a Wu Chang terror shocked me. I was decoding and about to leave the cipher but yeah xD
Shortly after that the doctor got downed.
It was qm btw.
@@OpposumParty87 I hate these people who spam youre on your own, like, Instead of doing this it will do something useful for the match.
Also, nowadays I personally feel that the game doesnt reward you on the aspect of skins.
I've been playing since 2021, skins has become the main attractive of the game with essences and crossovers, but it has become imposible for a free to play player to participate on those because ALL IS FOR ECHOES NOW.
With getting tired of the repetitive aameplay and the toxicity, me and my friends couldnt even enjoy skins of their favorite characters because all demands money now, feeling like the fragments have become useless.
Im really happy that im not the only one feeling that way towards IDV, your video helped me to be seen and all the comunity as well, Í just wanted ti bring my own piece of the issue.
SAW THE TITLE AND CLICKED
I relate. Lately I've been only playing idv with friends, it's just not as fun on its own anymore. I haven't played hunter in weeks cause ping makes it so much harder and survivors get so toxic emoting, gate waiting and even making fun of you post match. In survivor matches people can really get mad about any small mistake. Im in mammoth rank so i do expect the people in the same rank to know something about how to play, but i only ever get angry when somebody keeps farming chairs, never for a bad kite or a terror shock because that can literally happen to anyone and it's not their conscious decision.
I'm glad that someone addressed the risk of each character. Roles had been defined even before they were officially brought to the game, bcuz characters were designed to perform only some certain tasks well. Some even run the risk for using their skills such as Magician, Forward, Mind's eye. This makes playing a char truly unique and rewarding for mastering one. Now u have decoders with kiter's abilities or harrassers with little or no debuff at all. New characters r just a mix of the old ones, with slight alteration. I've been playing both factors and honestly speaking, survivors have it way easier nowadays. My survivor wr is hella low but it's still less frustrating than hunter. Maybe I'm just bad, but I can't stand getting a ts within 30 seconds of the game and still get a tide.
i wish people like you were in charge of the game :(
I'm sure I would mess things up too! They have their vision for the game and I am sure they will sort out the issues we have eventually.
@@BBlackPhoenix it's been OVER 4 years netease is never fixing the hame😭
I came back after 3+ years break and honestly I have more fun than back then... Im so happy there are more characters and somehow I mostly play with players who are not that toxic and also I play with friends who also had a break/are new to idv so for me personally it's more fun than when I started...also I used to be so bad at the game and there were no helpful guides.... But now I actually learned how to play properly but I still make goofy mistakes
2:10 this "formula" for a match is EXACTLY why I quit the game. It's gotten so repetitive, I've talked about this "formula" so many times with my friends and I'm not sure what there can be done to change it, tbh I'm not sure NetEase wants to change it, it's easier for them to "balance" the game when every match follows a similar pattern
Which is why I love playing as Dream Witch. She can tackle survivors who are healing , decoding , and rescuing. This adds so much fun to the game.
It’s just messed up that survivors keep banning fun hunters.
Exactly it's so repetitive :/ i totally get u!!
This is false because not every match will be like this formula. If one of the part in that formula did not occur then different results would come.
I agree. I think this game after watching this 🤔 😅 made me decide not to upload 50/50 being a very, very small yt creator. I see netease is using accessory made characters, both survivor or hunter, making them look so cool just for the money. They don't care about the community like they say they do. All they see is $$$$$$$$
This game has never been balanced. And the issue is behind the attitude Netease has towards the gameplay. As a person who have played this game for 6 years with a lot of breaks, mains hunter and survivor and has 1300 hours in Dead By Daylight I can say with confidence - IDV was never balanced.
This game has always been survivor sided and recently, instead of finally thinking about fixing sm issues Netease kept dropping the meta hunters who are by far adding to the imbalance of the game even more. Netease needs to understand that you can not balance the sides out if you keep making each of them go wrong direction.
Cipher rush is an issue, opera is an issue, journalist's, cheerleader's, and composer's insane skill kit is an issue (just compare them to prospector 💀), cipher decoding speed, gate opening speed and chair timer speed are a major issue.
This game compared to DBD (which is also not perfect) lacks the diversity of gameplay and the way each match progresses.
Usually, matches of idv have 3 scenarios max. It is literally tedious, considering everybody keeps abusing meta survivors/hunters. I am not even talking about rank and COA, it is the qm where people already have a built-in instruction what to do, they do not get any more ways to play this game except for the scenario they have to follow. This is just sad because idv has sm potential to actually commit and make the game way more interesting and diverse, I would love to see matches which make me think critically and not follow the structure which has to be followed so strictly that 1 small mistake can mess everything up.
I honestly wish Netease did some progress towards it but the attitude they give towards the issue is just childish and does things worse.
I agree so much but I think neteasse won't ever fix it
I will say that qm and rank feels boring, but I love duos hunter, tarot and the frenzy game
me too
I do play a lot of Duos, the mode does need some balancing and some tweaks here and there, but it is 100% a great mode!
I love the entertainment modes as well, particularly blackjack and chasing shadows. I'm not a big fan of tarot personally because it takes too long to get a match, and then when you decide to be knight so queue times go faster, the enemy squires/king mock you for not being able to deal with two harrassers as a begginer and suddenly you realise why nobody plays knight 🥲
I stopped playing identity v about a year ago and it's so difficult to start playing again! All of the new characters confuse me and I've never been a decent player (more of a casual player who got to tier III once) so every match just ends with mockery in the post match chat :"")
Like sometimes I feel really happy regardless of losing or winning but the more I play it starts to feel like a chore... sometimes I don't even play, I just log in for rewards and to water the plant...
I love this video! As someone who stays around tier 6 every season, the toxicity of players drives me crazy. When someone screws up and there’s a loss, people get much more upset than they probably should. I used to get pretty upset at people, but then I realized how much it was impacting my enjoyment of the game. Now, I just keep in mind that I am playing this game for fun and do not let losses get to my head. I find that I am enjoying this game much more than I used to that way.
Hunter main here. I've been playing since 2020, and I miss the lack of toxicity back then. It's especially stressful for people who play hunter, due to cipher rush and the whole game being survivor sided in general. Whenever we get a new hunter, survivors mains always cry and complain to the devs asking to nerf them instead of actually learning how to counter and kite them. I wish Netease could genuinely work on balancing their game.
I think the problem is not that the game is survival sided the problem is how some skills from both Hunter and survival works they usually can be OP if the person knows how to abuse them, so instead of nerf or rework the try to change the game to fit these "Toxic" mechanics, and besides that theres the high number of Smurf accounts in low tiers something that punish many new players if you saw how brutal it can be you will understand.
To be fair the Hunter complaining about strong survivors too so they get nerfs. Both sites don't want to learn to counter and to get better. Hunter and survivor just want an easy and quick win instead of learning.
@@phase269 i dont think its as simple as learn how to counter you have to admit many new survivals and hunters are kinda OP, and becouse of that they start to abuse it to the point that people develop a feeling of hatred towards them, believe me i already got abused alot by both sides, one major thing i think will reduce the stress and anger will be reducing decode speed and nerf hunter walk speed, cuz unless you are using an character with somekind of boost you have to keep the map layout memorized in order to buy time.
@@alexandremilitao4212getting rid off of accelerated decoding would be a great start, as a surv main it’s wild how easy is to cipher rush when someone decent (not even good) is kitting.
I would just implement the accelerated decode after 2 survs are eliminated or idk.
@@primadonnadellafortuna wea but like i said i also think they shoud make hunters a little slower cuz in my survivor experiences those that dont have ways to run faster are quick to get unless they request help something that sometimes is not possible due to his location, i also wish that the game had a better map rotation cuz 90% of the time its always the same maps, i miss golden cave, asylum and woods they almost never appear
True.I play as hunter and chipper rush was too crazy lol i cant.
Just yesterday a survivor kept emoting at me while kiting,and then survs complain that they get long queues.
What's wrong with that? 😭 Jeez I just think Vera looks really pretty when she's dancing...
imo there are two sides to emoting when kiting
its either : “I wanna see my character do a funny/pretty emote while im running”
or
“man i wanna ruin this hunters day”
me personally I only do emoting while kiting when I know im gonna lose eventually (hunter slugging for a 4k) or ive made enough distance for the hunter to not see me
but yeah I do think people do emote to taunt the hunter but not all survivors do it to insult others so it’s unfortunate how just a few people can taint an entire faction
There's nothing wrong with it, y'all whine about anything, if you're gonna bijtch over an emote, just quite already, godman
I know what you mean but I'd say it's still better than them trash talking in post match at least. I'll say tho idk how survivors that emote while kiting actually manage to emote like I literally can never do it no matter how good my kite is. Maybe I just don't wanna end up in the "that's karma" clips lol. Especially when playing with randoms I definitely don't wanna mock the hunter because you can never trust randoms. I also play both sides so that's another thing I guess. Hunter gameplay is stressful unless you're a pro and using a meta hunter then that makes it less stressful.
Edit : oh ye same thing applies to the hunter side for me. Idk how some hunters manage to chair hit lol. It's just to get the anger out instead of mocking tho. Different from survivor emoting but it's still something I could never do. That's just me ig. Tbh some people would clip you even for that "look this hunter chair hit me" ye.. boom now people would start bullying you for that. Just your average idv experience tbh.
Not everyone ofc but at least 20-30% of the community is in the dark side
I even noticed sometimes while playing how the game , by itself, feels like a sandbox where we're thrown in and that we only made these rules ourselves because of the win requirement we have at the end of the match. how people play idv over the years could be compared to a machine learning ai finding its most efficient outcome. sounds monotone enough?
The easiest thing to do is to get rid of the system that matches you with similar rank for the non rank modes. The issue is that for some reason I’m being match with high ranks in fun modes like hide n seek or causal matches
the fac that my main dw is easy to kite and doest have the same map presion makes me wanna quit bc i only play it bc of her
As someone who mains surv but used to play hunter, I fully agree with everything here. I have been playing since early 2020 then took a break for a year sometime after (i was so sad i missed D.M. and Man in Red
With how characters have been in the past few months I feel like each new survivor or hunter is just the solution to the games current problem, Ivy can counter cipher rush because of her insane pressure while cheerleader was made to simply counter nightwatch, like playing survivor is SO easy nowadays if you know what your doing...survivors think they're absolutely invincible snd just can't be touched I'm taking a break from playing hunter rn bc survs in post match leave such a sour taste in my mouth I miss the days when being a survivor was actually scary lmao thats just me tho
Playing survivor is not easy even knowing what you are doing for a lot of reasons, like playing with randoms, overpowered hunters, bad matchmaking, etc, etc. Hunters in this game are good examples of bad videogames design (overloaded kits, betraying the fundamentals of the game, too much resources, too much gain withour risk, and I can go on), because the difficult ones are no where to be seeing (Clerk, Mad Eyes, Galatea post nerf, etc) but the broken ones are everywhere. I see difficult survivors played everyday (Antiquarian is literal everywhere). The "broken hunter speech" is true when you see pro competitive and Sangria was literally a free win. Against pros. Pro survivor that know what are they doing for sure, for real, they had being hired to play survivor. They destroyed Mercenary, Lawyer, etc, etc because they can do their work, while launching "no see, no walk, no run, no hide" hunters again and again. The real problem is the overall bad ping, the no real balance and the literally "for nothing" report system that let running free the toxicity.
@@victoriadlande8198You had me at start and lost me at the point with "antiquarian is a hard survivor" lmao, anti isnt hard norton is way a harder and more situational stunner (his harass was always bad), norton got so many stuffs adjusted and nerfs debuffs / system finess, and this only bc his items are rechargeable as enchs ones and same time resire on the same place for a long time see it as a female dancer box but with expire date. His pushs and pulls can go so far by long distances if this norton wasnt the real target / kiter, the real kiter gets safe free transition until its a yidhra while yidhra is a hard to manage hunter and got hard nerfs as well before.
the insane amounts of lag that you gotta deal with on a daily basis along with the frequent crashes really ruin it
That's why i play Wildling, the worst survivor on the game, it's so chaotic to play as him, that is one of the only things who make me still on the game, but netease still add new hunters who almost cancel my existence on the match, i prefer the days where Bane was the only one..
Mech is worst survivor not wildling lmao.
You may be right, but just by choosing Wildling to play you may already receive some negative comments from the other teammates, I don't judge them 100% but it's quite annoying, Mech is very situational if you don't find her robot, alot of times can cost your match as hunter, but it's true she's just a shadow of what she was
I personally think the whole game system needs reworking rather than the multitude of characters.
Ie decoding needs to be reworked
A good way to probably do this is that every cypher has their own, individual, parts that are placed around the map. (Much like smileys parts, but hunters are unable to see them.) survivors can pick up a part, and by doing so, will see the aura of the cypher that part belongs to. They can also find a cypher parts aura by working on the cypher that part belongs to at around 10-15% decoding. Survivors can install a part by holding one and repairing 5% on a cypher that part belongs to. A cypher without an installed part causes survivors to have a 10% slower decoding speed, and all cyphers without an installed part will no longer be affected by the accelerated decoding effect. When a hunter brings abnormal, and uses it on a cypher with an installed part, that part will permanently break. Cypher parts will not take up an item slot to carry. This will hopefully encourage survivors to focus on a smaller side objective to help do main objective. It’s not essential for the beginning, but hopefully it well encourage survivors to set up and prepare for endgame.
Edit: probably also have it where cyphers without installed parts will begin digressing if left untouched for a certain amount of time so survivors can’t just ignore the parts altogether.
For hunter. Rocket chairs:
Every time the hunter chairs a survivor, a barrier will form around the chair that only survivors can pass through. This barrier will push the hunter away. Hunters can still hit through the barrier, but are unable to enter it. This barrier will disappear when the survivor has been rescued from chair. If more than one other survivor tries entering this barrier, the barrier will pop, no longer becoming active, allowing the hunter to be able to go through it. The barrier starts with a very small radius, but gets noticeably larger with every chair phase a chaired survivor enters, or by the increase of how many survivors were chaired. Probably where it starts from 0 meters (no barrier) first chair, and increases by 3 meters every time a survivor enters next phase or when a new survivor is chaired/eliminated, up to a max reaching 30 meters. This will hopefully encourage hunters to not rely on camping or tunneling too much, and actually go out and hunt other survivors. It will also discourage survivors from double teaming a rescue from chair as to not destroy chair safety border, but will still encourage safe rescues to be made early game.
Edit: If a barrier forms, and two or more survivors are within this radius when it forms, they have 10 seconds to leave the barrier before it breaks.
I know it’s a lot, but honestly the best way to make this game feel fresh is by improving the outdated gameplay mechanics themselves rather than trying to solely focus on the overwhelming multitude of characters.
Thats a lot for the rocket chair idea. I think it'd be better if survivors lasted longer on the chairs depending on how close the hunter is to the chair
really? only 10% slower decoding speed? meanwhile the hunter sides get a big nerf. This only makes the game more unbalance
@@eletrizzarwhat he yaps is literally suicide as a solo surv lmao. Imagine this state of idv rn "surv sided" while it was always simple TEAM SIDED game is too TEAM SIDED or NOT SURV SIDED ENOUGH, to fix 3 retards to make always for sure 3 escapes while you are the only skilled surv there in match lmao.
Now it will be again as usual if they nerf already nerfed or weaker nonmeta survs MORE TEAM SIDED to grind a badge in that certain nonmeta or risky surv by solo or by not having sadly a full rank squad everytime in every 2 hours rank sessions.
I've been playing identity v for five years now, and I won't lie that it's one of the games I love the most, but I can't deny that it was the games I cried the most about because of the toxic community. Once I went hunter to the match and lost, the survivors made fun of me and I responded back by defending myself and I ended up being mutated ... Or just because I'm wearing a skin I like, the Survivors make fun of me. Whenever I finish a game I am terrified to see the chat and so to prevent me from being tormented I automatically left... but i really love the game, but what you say is the REAL true!
I miss those days.. Were it was fun and people didn't take it so serious... Like they had to get a win all the time (both sides)...
The chat room box has always been soooo toxic even back in Season 1 for me... A teammate and the hunter both jumped me... I was trying to help heal and they had to be in front of the locker so I jump in the locker instead of heal and they jumped on me attacked me for accidentally doing it. This was only Season 1! 🤦♀️
life's been too busy for me to play idv for a while, and i've started playing again whenever i have the chance. i was so shocked to see that the game is more or less the same as it was when i stopped playing around a YEAR ago. and i don't mean that in a good way. even after just a couple of days of playing i'm already feeling like the game is monotonous, and ofc i'm not at the same level of playing as i was when i quit, but every match follows the same format. the team comps are the same, i'm facing the same hunters, and even lower tiers feel a lot more competitive than they used to. don't get me wrong, i love this game and even though i've been complaining, i definitely hope to keep playing. but every point you hit in this video is so true, and i hope things start to shift around a bit in the game
Last time I played was nearly the end of lock down, just played a match today and why the hell is it still the same? Like how has it not changed for THAT LONG??
@@GenderedMess exactly! the characters being used every match are sometimes different to the meta that i’m used to, but it’s always the same ones! i think the little additions like changing some of the persona web have made a big difference, but the game is still the same.
This is exactly why I deactivated post match and can't read anything there anymore.Yeah there were moments I had a nice conversation with a few randoms, but even when I just wanted to congratulate a teammate for a good kite, the hunter would come and say we are making fun of them for some reason, or if I'm the hunter and lose, they suddenly mock me for not being good even tho I'm a tarantula trying dream witch for the first time in quick match with 400 ping. It's so discouraging, but hiding post match so I can't see it anymore definitely helped me. Sometimes I get frustrated with randoms too, but not having the chance to say anything helps me cool down and just move on to the next match.
I understand getting more frustrated in rank, especially if you're in high tier (for me high tier is griffin above) and people are making mistakes you really expect in elk below (like a Mercenary without tide rescuing at 1% chair time against Bloody Queen). Casual players should not be going into rank, but also, that doesn't mean being a high tier suddenly you can't make mistakes. I think people judge too much others on making mistakes like getting terror shocked during a rescue, missing a flywheel or an ability/harassment, etc, instead of just working together and having game sense. I have had matches I died in 5 seconds, but it was still possible to tie because my teammates knew what to do, and I like that, I like that the game is more teamwork dependent like that. Of course the higher the tier, a small mistake can really turn a match into a loss, but I think mistakes and just being completely oblivious on how to play the game when you are 5 ranks in is completely different (i'm looking at you embalmers who don't place down coffin right away). So when I'm in a match and the rescuer gets terror shocked, I'm disappointed, but it happens- it could have been me, and it has been me in the past. Now if I'm in a griffin rank match and embalmer dies at 5 ciphers without having placed down the coffin, I'm getting mad bc it seems like they are throwing.
But again, that's rank, I don't think people should get heat up at all about quick matches like that and move on, yeah it's annoying if you are competitive, but it's quick match- quick match is where you are supposed to practice, learn and just casually play. Yet before I deactivated post match, I would still see so many toxicity there in quick matches and I think that's a huge problem. Like, seriously, let people enjoy the game.
Bruh so I just get into a quick match, and I really see it. I die fairly early, around 40 seconds in, I have 200 ping so like, I expected. But I'm put in basement so I say "forget about saving go for the tie". It's a quick match like, whatever. Then this gardener without tide comes rescue me, ofc we both die in basement. And then the gardener starts spamming "You're on your own". Followed by gardener, the other 2 players say the same thing, as one of them proceeds to go down in basement as well without tide but can't even make the rescue, and they proceed to spam "You're on your own". .... Seriously, stop.
I just really hope netease can come see this video and the comments section
2018 idv was just so good I can't even describe it. I haven't played idv for about a year and idk if I will play it again because of the burn out but I did use to love this game so so much. It will always have a special place in my heart. I miss you Identity V
(I did NOT expect to see my Hastur gameplay in this video) Hello, I’m a 2018 Idv’er Hunter main! I can agree that some aspects of the game have gotten stale and boring. I also agree that the Meta is a mess rn. But I (Personally) love the thrill of the hunt and welcome the suffering. I do wish the game gets better tho..
Rage over rank is overrated tbh. Yes, it's still a competitive system you get rewards from but in the end, it's still just a game.
As old survivor and hunter main I quit IV (around 2020 or 2021) and I went back two weeks ago and everything really changed and Netease even added a lot of SURVIVORS.
I miss old IDV.
REALLL, I haven't played since post pandemic and holy hell so much is different and the fandom has somehow gotten more toxic.
I used to enjoy playing hunters, but overtime I got bored of it and it started to become more of a chore. It didn’t help that no one wanted to play hunter since people get anxious or found it difficult to play hunter at that time. It’s been 2 years since I’ve played IDV and switched over to DBD which I personally enjoy more.
I agree 100% too
Maybe it would bring more fun and intress if they could or would go away from the goofy and cuty style and bring more horror in but that sadly impossible
If they would try to do more maps to play with would maybe change things or better the ping In games
Idk really, I can’t think of any really good ideas that wouldn’t change the Game komplettly so idk if there is anything to change the game so perfektly that these problems disappeare
Even if playing IDV is like hell for me, I can't stop playing since I've spent thousands on it ...
same here
Making fun in post match has to stop for both factors. I played hunter in qm and a gardener made fun of me bc she kited for a long time. Also when I lost as a surv a hunter said it was too easy for them. Honestly what’s the fun in mocking other ppl? If you win just be happy for yourself and your teammates. No need to bully the other factor.
i remember playing custom matches with your small twitch community in 2021 it was so much fun back then
I started to play IDV when it released, then I had to make a pause. Now that I returned (about 2 weeks ago), I was bombarded with tons of lore text and functions I didn't understand at all. And when I finally got to play, I had the most unpleasant experience :'( played my first rank match as both roles, got crushed, humiliated in chat, made fun of 😞 tried again, and again, but everything was the same, nothing improved. Also the players I was matched with, where all mammoth and above, while I'm unranked 😩 miss the old days when the game was simple, fun, and people were nice to each other :c
One year ago I burned out so bad of idv and left for an year cuz I was so stressed to keep my badges my ranks and the ping suddenly became so bad making the upper two things mentioned even worse, no to mention I was literally addicted to rank. It was terrible and I realized I really hated the game then but still playing for the sake of points
Recently I returned, at first was nice and even the ping was amazing but then it slowly get back to the old feelings from year ago, I still play a bit but now idc for points and ranks, or at least not as much, and kinda just mess up around with characters ,which I can't use, in rank that way it feels better yes I lose but at least I feel some enthusiasm in trying my hands on someone new in competitive environment but it is still boring especially surviving it is the same most of the time but hunting can be painful so it is kinda of lose lose situation
Yeah no, I have my self a massive break, I was burned out, it feels boring as u you progress through the rank, the survs get dumber and dumber
There is a lot of things that make my experience not that fun
Ping always being between 170~220
When people KNOW where the basement is yet they go kite there
Me when i play rescuer (journalist cuz i love her) literally the hunters just go and make me first chase
Depending of my brain i can either kite thrm to hell or i Just die
And also i love when someone dies on base and i fail a rescue just to be told to never touch rescuers on my life
LITERALLY. My first match back and my ping was so bad for no reason at all, had to put the settings to nothing and it was still bad. Then I proceeded to get suggestive comments (I was playing as hunter, Violinist) but people who were def teens.
Instead of rank i think theres should just be a reputation system where you cant chat in after matches if your rep is low and the higher your rep you get matched with people that also uave high rep this just helps filter the toxicity and helps the community stick together and just build posivity instead of toxicity and instead of your skill being determined by your rank people can overlook it because your not attached to a label the game expects you to perform in engaging and being positive giving hunters and players likes increases your rep and disliking and saying rude comments will lower it for both you and the person you disliked because they could definitely be in the wrong and thats how i would try to solve idv increasing toxicity
I used to play hunters and have fun, nowadays playing hunter is a nightmare and usually the survivors are more skilled than my level of abilities and its hard to stay happy when you are constantly loosing and not understanding your mistakes. i stopped playing hunter all together because of how insanely frustrating it became.
And playing survivor is practically impossible in rank because of the insane waiting time starting at minimum from 10 minutes up to an hour!
Completely get how you feel!
the fact its easier for higher tier hunters but lower tier hunters struggle, it sort of spells it right there that it just depends on the survs team comp and surprisingly higher tier survs struggle at that which makes it less fun. Rank is probably the only reason i play idv tbh but as a painter main its a struggle to see both sides one up older characters meanwhile hunters are getting constantly better at countering. I don't blame hunter mains as they are just playing the game but I solo que and in high tier a 3 cipher kite can become a loss really easily and with hunter mains always pointing out survs wr, it gets worse.
I'm autistic and this game has been my special interest for at least 3 years now, its so frustrating that i cant enjoy the game anymore and just don't want to play most days. It's exhausting, and i miss the days where I didn't even know how to prime a cipher and could play almost entire days just having fun.
Now it's all about winning and getting mad at other people. I switched to hunter for the most part so i'd have no one to blame losses on but myself but then you just get mocked for mistakes. Hell, i've seen friendly hunters get mocked by survivors who didn't realize they were friendly. It was funny to see happen but I think it just comes to show how much people want to step on other's and ruin the fun for everyone.
The lag and the fact that idv refuses to optimize the game doesn't help any either. You're right in that everything just feels like its out of control and no amount of player skill can fix it. I've played great games and still lost for bs reasons and i've played terrible games with many fatal mistakes and still ended up winning. It makes no sense and makes playing feel useless.
I love the characters to death still, my room is covered in them, but its so hard to convince myself to play nowadays. I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way.
Been playing about only a year, and honestly im having a lot of fun still.
I mean i have to be, i just spent $200 on the returned skins/accs🤐😰
The toxicity is a bit much, but ive also had post match chat disabled since i started. Figured it was for the best, so it hasent been TOO bad on my morale.
This game was supposed to be about having fun , but with the toxic players i don't think i can do it anymore.
Stay strong!! There are still great people in the community! 💪
Its just that unlike everyone else they just dont do anything with the game no new maps boring new characters and cosmetics, cosmetics, skins like atleast at every new season new hunters and survivor's and a new map now i now its not easy like using ai but its not that hard especially with a team of atleast a few hundred like it feels like there just being lazy with this and imagine there chinese server got all this new stuff maps and everything like whats up with them💀
literallyyyy i just wish they would put some more time into optimizing the important parts of the game and working on stuff that players have actually voiced concerns with. Like i want the maps to be worked on so badly cuz they are just so low in quality it’s embarrassing. When the map cuts off, it’s just an endless white screen, or with lakeside you see a literal png of dream witch that looks like someone was just too lazy to blend her into the environment. I also wish we had new maps. i remember when China Town was first announced and how excited everyone was, even if it was diminished by how long it took to be implemented
I started it last year i think it is pretty fun to me, but I am a new player so, maybe i would think like this too. The only boring stuff for me are the friendly Hunters or the hunters gabe up 20 seconds after the kite starts. I like to get better at kiteing, but with friendly hunters it is more of a Cipher Simulator... I don't even know what is funny about watching the survivor doing the gens. I hope someday a friendly hunter will tell me the fun of this in a way i can understand it.
I think a lot of people are missing one of the points of your video about the whole "X-sided" game. I've seen both sides walk into a match and get absolutely destroyed. There are so many factors in play when you load into a match; survivor picks, your persona (like if someone DOESN'T bring borrowed time and the final cipher pop 100% forgets this...), the hunter, THEIR persona, their ability, the map, the spawn picks, etc.
A strong hunter can easily get demolished cause they chose a wrong first chase in a bad location, while a survivor can get demolished cause they picked a decoder, a bad spawn, and they got found first, made a bad window vault, or got entirely cucked by map design LOL
And even if you don't want to rank and just want to quick match fun? That's hard to do now, too, because you'll either get try-harding survivors who just want to abuse the hunter, or slugfest hunters who bleed everyone out, and both sides will "gg, 3 letters" you in post match.
As someone who's on and off played since launch, I miss older seasons where a lot of the modes were fun, and rank wasn't just a death threat slur fest in post chat.
As someone who joined the discord server and used to play IDV A lot, I won’t lie. It is not that much fun anymore. However, I do really appreciate the game a lot, It introduced me to a new type of game that I really enjoy(which was Asymmetrical 4v1 horror). And introduced me to 3 friends that I have met on that game, 1 being my best friend. And the other 2 are close friends in my main friend group. I can’t deny that the game is still fun when playing with friends but, Playing by yourself it just doesn’t feel the same back then when it was our first time playing. And it’s just not the game itself but the Maps in my opinion. It’s the same old 9 or so maps. It’s just blank now when playing because those maps get old and their style gets very boring. It’s almost tiring too see the map sometimes (my opinion on the maps but ya)
Besides all of that gameplay wise it’s decent, it’s nice to strategize with your friends in the VC as a survivor (or hunter if it’s Duo). But playing alone as a hunter it’s okay, it’s nice when you actually win, but do the survivors Really need to emote and taunt us at the gate when we lose. Or emote during chase. And not give us a like after the game ends and just their teammates because they hate the hunter??? As a hunter main it’s really frustrating to go up against people like that. Because it annoying, toxic, and just plain rude.
But besides all of that, I still love the game, it’s a unique game that caught my eye in the past, and barely Anything has caught my eye. So this game catching My Eye was in fact, the best darn thing I’ve had presented to me in a while. Because It not only gave me a new thing to try out. But new close friends that I love and adore ❤. But IDV needs to have something new, not new hunters and survivors, but New things like, Maps, Map Interactions, And perhaps a new game mode. That’s just it tbh, Nothing more, nothing less. (Btw idk if the top sections made sense to you who’s reading it but uh, sorry if it doesn’t)
the other day i was playing a hunter match as joseph and I had downed a perfumer and chaired her - this ended up resulting in a quick 4k because everyone came to rescue and ended up farming the perfumer. In pm the rest of the team went off on the perfumer saying that she sucked and didnt know how to play when it was all of their mistakes costed the game - I felt really bad for the perfumer because she literally did nothing wrong, she tried her best to kite and ended up doing it for a good while but even though she did everything in her ability to not loose she still got blamed?
I loved to play violinist when I started playing IDV, even got his really cool ghostly costume because my dad knew how much I loved the game and character. That light got put out really quickly with the amount of times I was quite literally flirted with, like full on inappropriate things said towards me as a person just because I chose this character.
Really put me off the game for a long time, only just started to play again today and I already feel burnt out with the amount of new stuff.
I remember playing survivor with my friend, I decided to play antiquarian as I find her pretty, FYI I don't play survivor AT ALL. So basically idrk abt controls much. I decided to play with my friend for fun on quick match. I kind of threw as I found it was funny. I was just having fun with my friend and my favourite survivor as she was free. And I got burned at post chat. I honestly hate this community.
As a hunter player, what gives me the worst feeling playing the game is knowing that devs treat hunter players as very low on their priority list. Survivor players are given much credence and their complaints about the are addressed far more quickly.
The biggest trouble of idv
1- win conditions
2- fandom
1) in dbd much worse genrush and you don't have blink-teleport,but no one camp -tunnel- palletspam- abuse- play only meta characters. Why? Because of win conditions. In dbd no matter how much escaped or killed by you. More matter HOW you played than Result. In idv- NO ONE CARES how you played- just kill 3 survivors or go away. Such logic kill any fun bcs many plauers because of that OBSESSED with idea of winning. That's a reason when u are a high-mid rank and saw only Meta hunters or meta survivors who abuse,camp,tunnel,use dirty tricks for winning. In idv Result is much matter than process, what killing any idea of fun. More matter process than result.
2. Fandom- the most most intolerant and toxic Waifu-Yaoi players in my life. They don't care at anyone- only their waifu. That's a reason of some troubles. You know- fandom and devs are connected. Fandom want something - devs give it. But there's a problem. Fandom intolerant to any character who don't looks like typical yaoi boy or cutie waifu. That's a reason why undead don't have any skin for almost 3,5 years and why Jose-Murro don't have a lot of A tiers,while Vera and naib have more than 40(!!!!) Skins. And fandom don't care- they will insult you if you say what it's not fair what undead don't have anything, while support naib main who ask vote for him in nymph.
It's ironically. In dbd people love any characters - Chubby jane and jeff,scary singularity and dredge. Here in idv if character just have beard and manly appearance - players will hate him and his fans. And that idv players say about tolerance)))
But the biggest trouble because of fandom - balance. You noticed what not cute characters have more weakest abilities with too much conditions and limits,while cutie characters can too much without at least cooldown?
For example - undead- too much limits and conditions,slow animations and inability to chair,what kill any fun. In the same time itha- just use wind- there's no conditions and there's a little cooldown. Because of this you got two strong abilities what don't need too much skill and itha have very quick. I'm silent about additional things like controllable dash or 20% boost with quick animations. Feel that ? Or remember ivy- stun survivors because of your presence, because even if survivors don't look- you can easily stun them. Ivy don't lose anything if she place ghost in wrong survivor or miss ability,while undead lose too much even with one wrong dash.
That's nonsense when balance depends on fandom tastes
I never saw anything like this before
But fandom don't see any trouble. Their waifu make some sht and they don't care- it's cutie and that's enough for them.
With such fandom and devs this game don't have a chance to be fun or at least to be good as trash game for drunk evening with friends
I recommend “Nightmare” for beginner hunter players
and for beginner survivor players “Doctor”.
I used to play in 2018-2019, i remember for me i used to explore maps, hide around in closets and stuff and it was so fun 😂 i didnt even know what rank or skins were. Nowadays all i see in chat is people begging for skins and level 7 players with 20 S skins.
The most fun I have in IDV now is when I play as a full survivor team with my friends, we mess around, go non meta characters and yeah a lot of the time we end up with draws or losses but we have a laugh while doing so even if someone goes down on 5. It's so much more relaxing, so often if I do a bad kite solo even in quick match I immediately leave post match in embarrassment of being ridiculed by some random tryhard.
4:43 as a Joseph main who is coming back to the game just lately, I felt so good about this :) I've been taking a break since December now, this is not the first I do this because this game gets very frustrating in regards of toxicity, excessive competitiveness and the lack of enjoyment.
Hasn’t been fun since 2020 😭😭
On the survivor side, I feel like hunters are getting more and more 'Anti gameplay'. Opera singer and Shadow are ridiculously OP; it feels sometimes like theres NOTHING you can do against them at all, and hunters like Opera were barely at all nerfed despite her literally curb stomping people in COA. I know hunters have strong feelings against 'survivors' being OP... But in my eyes there is absolutely no excuses for hunters like shadow and opera whose entire kit literally prevent survivors from playing the game. I also have that feeling against Night watch; because Night watch hard counters half the survivor roster.
I agree with that!
The ping, not them caring about the western side of the game, the game being horrible about balancing survivors and hunters and even more. It's ridiculous, they know that they would have even more money/popularity if they focused more on the western side and yet they focus and favorite the chinese server. The fact that the chinese server win more crossovers and even win more good rewards are insane and really unfair. The smurfs lowering their rank because they are bored of their old high rank is completly idiotic too, I don't blame them, i blame the game for not being so supportive and responsible about the problems that happends inside the game itself and the reporting system about toxicity/hacking, the fact that wasting your money in the game makes a better and higher chance for you to have back your stolen/scammed/hacked account is totally unfair, not even having a garanteed chance of getting it back, just having a HIGHER CHANCE. And another thing that I heard from some people in tik tok (I don't really belive them for sure but it would be completly insane and stupid if its true.) But the fact that the chinese server has it's own website to sell and trade idv accounts without the risk of getting banned, and we here, risking going to sketchy servers and getting banned when the trade/sell is complete. Even the fact we trade and buy accounts to have what we want is ridiculous, this game IS pay to win, but sure, you can still be happy playing without buying echoes.
My strong opinion: IDV is team sided, which means if a survivor team works together they will usually have a lead against hunters…unfortunately the majority of people playing this game play solo. And solo RANKING survivors are selfish because they have to be since they can’t communicate with each other and half the time don’t trust their teammates which means for them the game is actually a little more hunter sided hunter sided. If your random team works well together and can cipher rush you can usually come out at a tie. So seemingly balanced. But in my experience solo ranking, it is hard to achieve wins unless the hunter severely messes up because one bad random can mess up the entire team. One reason they increased bans from 3 to 6 was because people kept complaining that they needed to ban more randoms. When your game relies heavily on survs working together but you get full random teams as most people play this solo it unbalances the game. And adding in the overpowered characters is not aiding the balance.
I could not agree more. I always play solo because everyone I used to know left the game and reasonably so. Even when I check statistics on a persons profile who is complaining, I see that hunters always have a higher win rate unless they only played survivor once or twice and won. Anytime I try playing which is still always solo, I also get toxic teammates often so I do not even bother anymore. Now hunters also have warp. At least it was fun while it lasted long, long ago.
i feel like part of the reason idv is becoming monotone is how chronically online you have to be to be good at it. its not casual,if your rustiness of not playing for a week or two earns you a bad kite then you get toxicity from your teammates. i'm a little girl main,used to be badged- keeping my badge,whilst only being able to solo rank(had no friends at the time) was torturous. and if you play casually in the lower ranks,you meet smurfs,who i used to meet even 3 years ago when i started. additionally,the game doesnt feel very rewarding- there's little reason to convince you to play for the 8h of rank everyday. most skins are echoes only,the gacha is a cash grab, ping and performance issues(even on days old devices, as i recently got a new phone and even so,i have issues w ping and sometimes lag), and most of all- why the hell does the game have a schedule at all?! the schedule is not compatible with either my daily schedule or even my schedule during holidays, as most rank hours are from 1-4am for me. additionally, the playerbase is unaware of human decency,but thats not netease's fault.
I started playing the game some weeks ago, and i consider myself more a casual player, but it's honestly horrible because everyone expect you to be good at the game, i love playing hunter, but i not even playing in ranked matches and people are competitive and toxic :( just wanted some another players who could help me or are beginners too so everyone could help each other. (Sorry if i made some english error, it's not my first language)
i miss being a beginner player where everyone was slowly learning the game together :(
I've started to play IDV in late 2019 and I agree that this game is no longer for fun or entertainment. It mostly focuses on distress based on how to win a rank match and other stuff like 999 ping. Esp now the devs don't really care about players's experience, they really just focus on releasing skins and making collabs. Like, now that a huge bunch of skins are dropped every update I can't even feel the skin valuable enough and the joy if I get that skin anymore.
This is honestly why I stayed in lower tiers especially as a surv (and because I’m bad at surv too), I’ve just always found that lower tiers are chill and they’re a lot more understanding about mistakes?? THIS IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE OF COURSE PLUS MISTAKES FROM BOTH SIDES CAN BE LAUGHED ABOUT
In low tiers you are nothing and have nothing. High tier survs and high tier hunters are only toxic especially at their import rank grinds bc they actual HAVE SOMETHING TO LOSE.
Like a top 10 badge or the chance to be once for a week be 1st on that character or even longer than a weak. Or just breaking a peak tier stars tier highscore or other high tier archievements. As more you build up as more you cry or rage if its gone.
i just take year long breaks then miss all the good cross overs and start crying when i realise
The game definitely feels like it's missing something now? Especially after the narrative pov change. I think with the addition of new characters it kind of loses itself a bit over time, especially when it comes to balancing with the insanely overloaded kits. The newer characters don't seem as appealing either. Also as a Naiad player, I agree it's hard to transitional kite against her at full presence. I see survs doing it but it depends on who they're playing as and if they have 9. I also agree about the toxicity but I've just accepted as being apart of human nature at this point.
Honestly sometimes as a hunter, when a survivor has a horrible or bad game in rank like afk teammates, fast game but the survivor is about to rank up, etc. I would mainly give them a tie cuz i value fun more than rank (i got A badge luchino 6 times everytime i come back so i dont mind giving them a break)
I quitted idv bc playing hunter made my blood boil. I’m thinking about coming back, and the first video I encounter with is this one LMAO 😭😭
I played since it come out. Where Garderner was OP I loved playing the game that time,even when they put the mechanic of putting the chair back up. I loved using her and try to save people. I quitted a year or two years ago. I got tired of trying to save but no one saves me or try to help me. As a hunter no comment i was a Photographer main.....and then with all of this characters and traits i just gave up
while ill agree it's definitely not as much fun, sometimes, esp as hunter or when you either do poorly or have teammates who do poorly, ive had some definite losses as hunter turn into wins because the survivors thought they could bully me (or my duo, in duos) and got greedy, even after detention is out. those are the matches i feel the most proud of, because i didn't give up! (the same also applies to survivor, tho more rarely since more people = more chances to mess up in late game)
could also just be because i'm low tier lol
edit: also, can we talk about how even old decoders have been updated w/ more kiting ability, like prisoner? so few survivors try to hide early game, since they're going straight for cipher machines, but what if you just avoid first kite altogether?
I personally disagree with the statement on the matches against Photographer. I CONSTANTLY see Photographer when the hunter isn't Naiad (and out of 10 matches? 1 might be a different hunter entirely while 6 would be Naiad and 3 would be Photographer) and it's just DRAINING to deal with. Matches I tend to have against him either take a near eternity and still end up resulting in losses and it's just frustrating as hell. I play with friends when I'm survivor and we all tend to see about the same 5 hunters in succession and only tend to enjoy the matches when we get someone we hardly ever see (such as Evil Reptilian, Clerk and Hermit).
Every other point? I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I was especially hesitant to even recommend IDV to other people because of these exact issues, telling them to simply look up the interesting lore rather than play the game.
Explorer is literally my guy. He’s the perfect’ character and I really hope the Goatman is explorer.
Not gonna lie, I got hella burnout from Ranked not just from like snarky comments, but the fact no matter how hard I was trying I just didn't feel good enough and made me feel not good enough to play with higher tiers. Cause of that I took a break from ranked last season and this season I just casual play and if someone gets mad, they can deal with it, I don't care anymore lol.
I am sorry to hear that you went through that, but I completely understand why you felt that way.
Your new approach is definitely the way to tackle the game, possibly the only way that leads to no bitter feelings towards the game!
Thanks for sharing Zinc!
I rarely experience toxicity problems in the Asia server n the queuing time is rather short, as for ping is different depending on ur location and how good ur internet is. I played the game for around 3-4 years and had 2-3 rather long breaks. I recently started playing more as hunter and i main Geisha so its really fun to do those very cool dashes trough walls and stuff but i find a single stun from enchantress can change the whole game which is insane. And when i first started playing the game i was excessively watching tutorials on kites and yadiyada n i get frustrated when the hunters were so hard to kite. But now after getting used to the basics and some advanced kiting becomes kinda funny when i make a mistake (but if a teammate drops an important pallet on me i will cry,but they just stare at the mistake they made which is funny). N btw cipher rush is insane . Thank you for reading this long n random comment 👍.
The creators really need to focus more on the story element of the game instead of the competition element, or at least have a portion of their team focusing on one and one on the other. The game has been out for years and the lore is still so underdeveloped and filled with holes that grows with the more characters they add. Each hunter is supposed to be tied with a survival game that 4 to 5 survivors have to compete against to escape alive, but we've only gotten in depth on the origins and survivor connections of Hell Ember and Orpheus directly from the game. Every other hunter and survivor not tied to them is just given a general origin backstory and sometimes snippets of lore. They just keep adding so many theme events, costumes (for the same characters constantly) and crossovers that just add more storage without ever telling us what's even the BASIS of the whole survival game.
I first started with Gardener and then proceed to main Gravekeeper because I love rescueing. But then costumes began overloading my phone (esp from Geisha's and Naiad's) and I ENDED up stuck whneever I rescue 😂 so, i quit. I wish i could just turn off their costumes.
played this game since 2018 and i can say i miss the time where no one will judge you no matter how trash you are albeit old or new player. Everyone is so forgiving and often gives words of encouragement to each other post match (including hunters!). Everytime me and my friends win against a hunter, we will wish them goodluck on their next match and even tell them they did a great job so and so.
I only got back into playing very recetly and now i can't play this game without feeling like someone will yell at me just because i rescue them 1 second late. once i got my account reported because i wasn't decoding (I was playing as LUCA and I WAS KITING ) i had a freaking mercenary, forward and antiquarian in the team i was so frustrated
I’m having so much fun turning off post chat solved all my problems because im very competitive so I get tilted easily but that’s what makes it fun for me because it gets my heart racing
One good thing for me is I have rarely encountered toxicity in my matches. Tbh if my memory is correct I have never seen anyone being toxic in post match (for hunter rank up until cyclops and for survivor side up until corn 🌽). I have met few "you're on your own" spammers and match throwers, emote spammers when playing hunter but that's about it. I don't really play normal matches anymore because I can't play for fun so now I stick to duos most of the time. When playing duos people complain about double teamers double campers but for my matches I'd say they're pretty rare like I encounter them in only 20% of my duo matches (some days I don't encounter any). I'm in Asia and mostly get into JP lobbies so that could be the reason why it's so nice in here. I have personally never seen an actual good JP player get toxic (in idv ofc not talking about outside drama lol). Even if they get mad it's in a friendly way. Survivors gate waiting and being toxic in match is still there for me but the post chat is always quiet. Despite rarely encountering any toxicity and bad matches I still take breaks when I'm bored. I probably sacrificed my essence luck to have a nice time playing idv for 3 years. My essence luck is horrible compared to people always complaining in eng1 about randoms etc.
I've only been playing IdV since 2021, but I already miss how I felt when I first started playing. I could play for hours at a time and not get bored, I would play all day long with or without friends. Now, playing feels like a chore, like something I do just keep my badges, and to make the money I spent worth it 😭
Sorry to add on I feel like the competitive aspect of IdV really is what ruined the game for me. I started ranking because I liked the idea of a badge, but now how I play is centered around winning and getting frustrated when I lose. Before, I could just play because I wanted too, not because I wanted to keep my badge or rank :(
I mean the game is fun for me since I started a month ago
Same! But that's not his point. the game is still fresh and interesting to us. But to veteran players the game is stale.
@@dustynova_ oh I see now
I started playing this game four months ago and it is a blast. I enjoy the regular updates and content we get. But I undertsand that for older player the game has become stale. There are a lot of games I used to love playing then kinda fell out of love with.
I think it's just the nature of being a "solved" game. Everything becomes a routine because the game is "solved", you know the ways and scenarios that gets you to win or get a tie and even a loss. Which means as a survivor, what is expected of you is to do at least this and that so we can get a win or a tie, the must do and does as well as don'ts differs only depending on the map and hunter as well as the survivor. If you fail to do so, you're the cause of the loss. As a hunter, you deal with toxic survivors and your failures (be it caused by lag or unfortunate circumstances). The whole game is solved, if you get a down as certain hunters within a certain amount of time, that's a win or a loss or a tie. If you foil a rescue, that's a guaranteed win condition for hunters if ever. In the end, it all becomes a routine since you can have a near guaranteed result which you can easily predict depending on the early game (first kite/chase and first chair). At least that's how I see it. Pro games and rank games are different yes but in this way it is similar. It's merely because of the game balance + nature of some characters and human x factor why some games don't go as the predicted result.
The way you drop in rank when you don't play it is a huge problem. I and my friend are mammoths and we get croco hunters that have been peak tiers with 20+ stars, that's beyond unfair, there's literally nothing we can do against them and they're able to drop all the way to cobra... Then there are level 150+ accounts that have never played rank and that's a huge problem too, this kind of game relies on ranking but lv 18 mammoth and level 180 spider are just not how the game is supposed to work.
Indeed. When i was ranking up to mid high tier i slowly stopped finding joy in the games i played, being it ranked, qm or even 2v8. It's like we already mastered the core and even a lil bit more but felt suffocating. There was a preassure to play our survivor role so perfectly, so quietly and we did. But making a single mistake not only costs so much. Even reading the angry spits directed to someone else made my energy instantly drain.
It'd be nice if people pointed out other's mistakes in a polite way, and be taken with a grain of salt.
Sometimes i think "damm if I haven't taken breaks, i'd be in Alicorn-Champion tier like all the people who started playing in 2020 like me" but i don't wanna be aware of everyone's positions, resource state or wtv, every time i jump in,... I just play... And if we lose, welp! That's the game!
That doesn't mean i don't have respect for people who love competitive gameplay. Everyone enjoys the game in a different way and that's okay!!!!
On the other side, playing as hunter doesn't feel nice when you have just started playing a new character, you don't know how to operate masterfully and survivors make sure you know how BAD you are as hunter by emoting constatly, staying at the gate and mocking in the postmatch saying "OHH POOR HUNTER". It's like again, you are preassured to play perfectly just to have one normal game, but then winning then doesn't feel as rewarding as fun. It's just "i won"