StarCraft 2: INCREDIBLE GAME - Reynor vs ByuN!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- One of the best games of StarCraft 2 I've seen so far this year. Some might even refer to it as one of the games of the year but I would never say such a thing. This is a Terran versus Zerg between ByuN and Reynor where practically the entire map mines out of Minerals and Vespene Gas.
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That Raven just strolling in at the end like "Uuuuuh, guys...bug here"
The standard lowko SC2 milestones:
1) talking about the players history!
2) draw the line in the middle of the map!
3) the winning conditions!
4) humming the melody
5) stating that, in fact, pro players are only human too
6) "Man I love Star Craft"
@@falk5068 7) The winning condition, of course, is destroying all of the opponents structures :D
7) "There is a huge difference in MMR between grandmaster league and pro players"
8) Noticing new things about the map
9) Making puns then apologizing for it
@@nirmalasokan1687 10) BRENDAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
@@FPSgamer94 still never getting tired of any of this :D
I like these late game stalemates where they regress back to the one-two hero units deciding the fate of the ending. That infestor on the obligatory stealth mission/level...only to be spotted by the first raven to be built ever rallying on the army ball. Such an ignominious death.
I think its the second raven (the first one already in the main army)
He already had a raven with the main group.
yeah that was fuckin epic
@@ja-no6fx it sure was. This was a phenomenal game
This game really feels like lore accurate Zerg vs Terran.
17:32 “At the very least, it’s lore accurate, I suppose”
11:58 Lowko as Jim imitating Dwight 😆
Byun maneuvering his army like a war general at the end was amazing to watch. Even using his last resources to make a raven and cinch the game *mwah
Once a Terran with good micro gets a Ghost army, I fast forward to the end of video to see if there were any surprises. There has yet to be...
That's my point when I say Terran is OP. If you got the right even the best can fall against it. Neither zerg nor protoss have that from units
@@joe78man There's people calling all three races OP all the time.
@@godhandvoid9795 So far I never seen zerg or protoss have a particular composition that is hardly beaten as a ghost army. Of course you will find games where players make mistake or take the other by surprise, but straight attack, a ghost army deestroys whatever a zerg or protoss have, because of the characteristics of the units, not players' skill
@@godhandvoid9795 Terrans are always OP unless they lose all the time according to zergs
I feel like the big ghost vs broodlord infestor fight around 26:00 really showcase how zerg late game is so awkward against terran.
Byun’s army contained several reapers and hellbats on accident. There was even a big fungal that landed on the left wing of the ghost squad. Yet 26 broodlords pretty much melted in comparison.
At this point i feel like when im playing T into Z in a game pass 15 minutes i can just blind build some ghost and it’ll be fine.
Fair comment really. Yet in this case I wholeheartedly support the wholesale slaughter of mass broodlords 🤣
What, you think holding one button for rapid snipe and waving your mouse to kill 10 ultras/broods instantly isn't balanced?!!?! no way. /s
@@Konranjyoutai 🤣🤣🤣
And there was siege tanks doing friendly fire too, despite ALL of that was said in this comment the zerg got slaughter.
Why wait? There's a Ghost rush build going around that's pretty much a steady targeting win
That random hero raven at the last play had so much value it was insane! Not only stopped his infestor, but than the huge anti armor splash too!!
One of the most beautiful matches I've watched ever, and so representative of the two races narrative dynamics: Zerg swarming into entrenched terrans. Such a beautiful narrative and perfectly delivered, down the to the end with terrans tip-toeing around the map very slowly and cautiously, knowing how easily they could be overwhelmed despite the overall advantage they had.
It's obviously fake though. They are just messing around. This is setup.
Even at the end when you subtract the drone count it was like 120zerg supply vs 190terran supply. I think even if tanks were unseiged and did their normal attack, I think he could have won the fight. He also had options of floating buildings over for vision and placing them down to create chokepoints if he wanted.
Great match to watch.
In my opinion, Byun is using Roman strategy at late Republic era. Camp and lay siege to stave the enemy.
The Battle at 26:16 really shows how imba are Ghosts vs zerg... There isn't any lategame zerg unit that can fight a ghost heavy army, even with huge fungal...
At least Terran gotta ghosts, cause Zerg is an OP race in general.
Larva is the cause of units like the ghost.
The zerg can pump out a second army to counter your composition super fast.
This leads to oppressive units like the ghost that work vs anything the enemy can throw at them.
@@vitorh3568 Hardly! They're vulnerable early game, can't wall off, have poor anti-air until at least game, need to fight on creep to win most of the skirmishes. I've been playing SC2 on and off since release and I don't think Zerg have ever actually been OP. There was an issue with Infestors once being a bit too effective but general speaking Zerg have always been playing catch-up with the other races in my eyes. You gotta be a great Zerg player to beat a good player of T or P.
@@vitorh3568 Like I say, unless Terran never wins, it will always be OP according to zerg players.
I've been watching professional StarCraft since 2007 at least, the number of times where a map is FULLY mined out is around a douzen, give or take 1 or 2 matches. It always ends the same way though, in one giant clash in the middle. The player with the more mobile army more often than not ends up winning by microing in and out of range to kill a unit here, a unit there, and after an hour, something is gonna give out... making the smallest of mistakes gets punished HAAAARD at that point, so there's even less room for them when there's no more resources available. Byun played that game extraordinarily well, and Reynor got punished for being so greedy, leaving the terran do whatever he wanted. I'm guessing that he tried doing an SC1 build called Ogre Zerg rather than playing his usual style. Amazing game regardless!
More like reynor cant even touch Byun rather than leaving the terran alone, its turtle terran.
Early game: marine rush
Mid: tank def
Late: tank, ghost snipe, scan synergy repeat till 25+ minute mark.
(scan, snipe, run back toward tanks, dead zerg, repeat)
@@nahruz.w3044 You do know that Reynor stick with lingbane for like 15 minutes into the game right? then going mass Ultra against Ghost of all thing, while repeatedly crashing into the most fortified defensive location and fail. Its ont that Reynor cant touch Byun, he did but just failed.
Coming back and watching these older videos paid off. This was an excellent Byun game.
Ultralisks have to be the most sad lategame unit in all of SC2. They really need a buff or something so they can do something other than get in the way and then die. And while I understand snipes do a ton of damage, the ultralisk shouldn't get popped in a single blow after it's defenses have been fully upgraded.
I think they should stack with ling bang. Then terran will have to pick between sniping and losing his ghosts or retreating.
36:00 I think he is holding those mineral in reserve in case of a tie. He can put 1 SCV on it to get minerals to get more time to kill stuff.
I know this game will Byun-believable, but I hope we can Reyn-it in.🤔
Hoping Byun can pull this one through.
Reynor shine we gotta watch this together!
Oh my gosh u didnt just do that 💅
I don't know if you're male or if you have children. But you... You my friend you are a dad
SOmebody infest this Terran
last minute likes are always the best....
love those old sc2 seasons, very nice
thx 😉
LOWKO! Always a pleasure watching your casts!
0:29 this is the exact sound I make every time I see a cannon rush
Ultra buff Idea: chitinus plating gives untras immunity (or more resistance to) snipe, terran would still have answers, but couldent counter everything the zerg has with ghosts
I don't think snipe should be so strong against massive units. It doesn't make much sense to me for a Barracks unit to kill an Ultralisk in 3 shots with 10 range. It should take 5 shots at least.
@@asterpw I agree. Ghosts sod do less dmg, meaning more use in siege tanks, or Vikings for broods. More variety in late gsme
@@ferallhamster970 make the snipe cancel if unit leaves range, make the emp a banshee skill and ghost a light unit....game would be basically the same, but ghost is no longer the ultimite unit
@@stixinst5791 okay, in exchange, lets make Queen transfusion cost more EN, become a Light unit, and creep spead speed is reduce by 50%, DEAL?
@@tigera6 that is a bit of an overkill don't you think? I just moved a spell and made ghost more in line with other spell casters. I can give you queens as armored and 50% more transfuse cost
But if you wish to reduce ammount of creep by 50% you need to compensate zerg to stand a chance.....one scan can remove area of up to 4 creep tumors or you can spawn a mule. Therefor 4 creep tumors of creep should equal a mule in minerals output.....or you know. Make the scan cost twice as much and loose to anything that burrows
Or make the creep give bonus supply cap (like + %of total tiles covered= if a zerg has control of 60% of the map he has 260 max supply)
Still cant believe that they didn't balance the ghost, crazy OP unit.
If they did that they would have to do the same with lots of zerg units. Those banelings for example... just attack move for a lots of damage and gg.
@@vitorh3568 but banelings can be split against and forced to have low efficacy, The issue with Snipe is that it cost very low energy and has a massive range, its not like zerg can just dodge it, so ghost are always extremely cost efficient. ex: Byuns 26 ghosts(3900 minerals, 3250 gas) easily destroyed raynors 16 brood lords(4800 minerals, 4000 gas) even though brood lords are supposed to be zergs long range cost effective siege unit. I'm not saying ghosts are so OP that their the reason Byun won, but snipe is entirely too strong
Lowko be like "a couple of hellions", while there're 8 of them. "a dozen of liberators", while there're 4. hahaha, my man!
Man, Byun is just unstoppable vs. Zerg with these recent games. When I see him in the title, I just go, "let's see how he wins vs. this zerg player."
Ridiculous how OP the ghosts are, lol.
Lowko, I love that you upload daily. Every day I look forward to seeing your videos
Watching Byun play is like watching someone dance. He plays a very unorthodox style but with superb control. No wonder his nickname is Micro Jackson!
0:28 "Likewise, ooghlghouuuh...".
Lowko: Can we please make some marines?
Byun: OK
Even though i do not understand 90% of the strategy talk this is still fun to watch just because of the battles and constant back and forth.
This is definitely one of the best games I've seen this year so far, Byun is always a fun player to watch!
Oh lala! What a game.
As long as there is minerals to be mined, the zerg has an additional advantage over terran and that is "how fast can I re-make my army".
There only needs to be one engagement where both players loose the majority of their forces and zerg is gonna come out on top because they can, what, pump units out of 5 bases?
Especially in this game, I was waiting for that because there was creep everywhere, which allows a freshly formed zerg force to do crazy rushes right up into terran bases.
Loved the gameplay.
A cautious terran and a zerg who has to play it cautious too.
I have never seen a zerg making ultralisk while in a massive lead win a game
Terran be like:
ghosts goess brrrrrrr
Imagine if byun actually used those reapers for thier grenades to give the Z army disorganization, like it won't work on ultras but for banes and lings? It would probs blow them off to give enough time for the T army to gun them down more. The ability to move an enemy unit has alot of potential.
The late game meta would change so bad if that actually happened.
Maybe in archon mode meta. But it's just to much for one person to micro so many units abilities.
21:48 totally! Don't get why this isn't more part of the meta
At 14:00 mark I was like “if Reynor lost I am sending it to IODIS”
At 30:00mark I was like “damn Reynor really managed to throw this game”
It was a pain to see Reynor tried repeatedly to blast through the choke point and through away his army again and again
What else was he supposed to do. What for the terrain to mine out then move out and lose the game.
I feel like Ghosts are too good, though I do think they are probably necessary under the current balance. There are very few situations in which a terran player should not go ghosts late game, I don't think there is ever a build in a TvZ game, and even in most TvP games should go ghosts. They just answer too many things at once.
The weakness of ghosts is they need the micro. They are expensive, and can be easy killed by protos units(zealots, stalkers)
@@kubm4s915 not to forget ling bane rips them a new one.
@@kubm4s915 The thing is that I feel what makes them unbalanced is the EMP. The EMP is just seems so absurd, you can do that dropship thing with the Ghost and EMP and that's like half the army of the Zerg not being able to do anything
@@zant1566 half army of zerg? Maybe protos army? EMP effects to spellcasters(vipers, infestors, quenns). And what about infestors. One shot and half army of Terran moves like turtles. And what about storm? One storm and half army of Terran /Zerg is dead
@@kubm4s915 I mean yes, Ghosts having EMP is necessary, but one ghost completely negating almost every spellcaster with a well placed EMP is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering that once infestors and high templar have no energy they are completely worthless, while Ghosts can cloak, snipe and do good damage even outside of snipe. Not only that, but when you are hit by an infestor or a high templar, you can at least move out of the way and even still shoot, while EMP just fucks up one type of unit for the entire battle plus in the case of Protoss does massive amounts of damage as well. EMP just needs a nerf, it's way too strong as it is rn, just like how Infestors were nerfed and made so that their fungal slows and not just grounds units
That single Raven at the end was the absolute MVP
That raven came out like, "sorry I had some spicy food and had to drop an anti-armor missiles but I'm back."
Thanks for putting in the effort to add the white arrow into the thumbnail Lowboy helps a lot. :)
The colours, THE COLOURS! sir, you just made my day.
So thrilling to watch. Super entertaining to watch until the end!
31:50 SCV would win against drone lowko, cant really blame Reynor
40:30 Is the moment that Derpfestor knew, he fucked up.
damn that slow terran gameplay is really fun to watch ngl
@LowkoTV forgot to mention something related to the lore, in the end, humanity survive.
I thought that was a leviathan for a moment!
You should really cast Creator vs Rogue whenever you have time.
If not the whole serie, literally any game from this finale was amazing
Reynor vs Byun is my personal favorite matchup
amazing to watch this on 4k, awesome quality =)
Byun was mining the 3rd near the end. What's the final count for the resources!?!? I have to know!!!
Lowko i think that Raven was build using those last few minerals you mentioned.
My experience with Starcraft is 95% custom games on Brood War as a teenager, yet I find myself fascinated by this. The micro skills required in high level RTS competition is truly remarkable.
I feel like I'm watching Maru more than ByuN tho , but I love it.
Both Maru and Byun just play so cost effectively. They trade really damn well.
@@snagsTS Those SimCity CC as well , LOL
@@ZRyuCh I've started modelling my game after theirs to some success but I suck at micro. Must say the SimCity CCs work so well because its like Zerg and Toss players can't resist trying to crack it 🤣
Byun: There was an infestor there?!?!
Wow what a game!!
Lowko! Check the 15 minute. At 15:03 starts QUEEN massacre. That moment changes the game
The reapers were not a mistake , it was a pro move
It might be unpopular but I really like the slow methodical super endgame. Feels very strategic.
End game is like chess each piece that falls never comes back.
I wonder why he was surprised about the hellbats. If the zerg goes broodlord they are a life saver one shotting broodings ( if upgraded)
the forward base was waiting for reinforcements that never came.
THAT WAS AN EPIC BATTLE!!!
There should be an upgrade called "Smart Targeting System" for the Liberators, so they only switch to the next target AFTER their previous target has been destroyed. Because I have seen lots of Ultralisks damaged to 5-10% health by the Libs, which were able to continue their rampage, because the Liberators inexplicably switched to targeting Zerglings.
The minerals did get mined in the end! Saw it on the minimap.
Byun defeated two opponents that game. Reynor and Byun's wrists.
we need the "hello everyone, my name is lowko!" back
Hope Byun plays more like this, heard his wrist issues were getting worse so this play style might be best for him. I guess Turtling for Terran's gonna be a play style we'll often see.
Anyway, I think it is the best idea. When T army is busy in zerg area, usually zerg sent a bunch of ling kill some mineral lanes to kill your eco.
I don't understand why we dont see more nydus with 50 lings or something straight into the back of bases while engaging from the front in these inefficient trades where you can't even engage with all your forces anyway. If the goal is to whittle your opponent away, flanking/sneaky nyduses should be the way to go
especially with queen transfuse on creep y no nydus
@@nicholasfactor Most pros are not going to let a nydus pop in their main
Nydus is like nukes, a commitment that takes time and resources. But using lings makes that time a hell of a lot longer and is visible on the map
@@hockeyguy1166 by sending some of his forces to deal with it, weakening the front defense, that would be only good for zerg
so glad you've started letting other colors into videos. it's gotten kinda old just always seeing red and blue for the players
What if Fungal growth prevented spellcasting?
That will be cool, but i think if you do that then reduce the slow ammount it has to balance it.
Love your vidsss, right on time for breakfast!!
I think mixing in a few Reaper against mass Baneling/Zergling is a great idea.
ByuN's gonna write a book:
The Art of Turtling
His playstyle definitely changed since his injures, sad that terran's prime last so shortly due to their micro mechanics.
I feel like Byun always forgets the attack upgrade.
great game, you got my like and subscribed again!
Lesson from this game: Make the Most out of your Resources
I feel like there could have been another like half base; 4 min patches and a rich vespene or something; there's so much space in the top and bottom
what a game! I'll watch it again, definitely
Why no swarm hosts when Reynor was sitting outside the third base? Especially with that kind of of creep spread.
Hmmm...all my units are dying when I send them through this one choke-point....LET'S DO IT 20 MORE TIMES!!
ultralisks woudl benefit from a leaping pounce like charge style move similar to zealot charge ability that would allow them to gap close once their pathing determines a valid target.. maybe make it do a burst AOE damage to give ultras a bit more balance against the onsluaght of nonstop snipe spam?
He emped 6 infestors at 36:20 how did you say good job Zerg lol?!?!
He probs didn't notice it lol
From time to time I have a feeling like play some games again in sc2. But watching this I remember why I dropped this game in a first place
Nice, 4K of SC2 😂
What I don't understand is why reynor didnt use nydus worms at all, remove some of the terrans production and then he wont be able to produce 9 ghosts at a time
Byun could have scanned and landed some mules on the banelings.
Marine marauder and ghosts with tanks and sim city.
Awesome game, but the next balance patch should make static defense more expensive.
5 years and ghosts are still balanced Kappa
21:06
QUITE NICE INDEED
Can't believe Zerg came to bankruptcy
In theory what would happen if neither of the player attacks and both are camping in their part of the map? I mean that could be going for hours and hours....
I honestly wonder if ghosts will ever get a legit counter.
What. A. Game.
I think Ranor need hydra zerg for his groung army and swarm hosts for his harrasing army to get more efficient trades.
Love you videos they always make me smile. Keep up the good work!
Why add missile turrets at the very end? Wouldnt a single raven be much more cost efficient?
Lowko, I wonder if u can play some custom campaigns like GGG, or do some collab with him. It would be fun to see that kinda stuff
Beautiful