Update: I got hit with copyright strike. I had to silence the music on the landing segment. Sorry guys. BUT if you want to listen to it, it's "Time, Forward!", it's a banger
Yeah, getting way too much territory can really hamper with your supply, overextend your lines, leave other people to govern provinces since the government can’t enforce their control properly on territories far away, which can make a breeding ground for revolts, and overall just become way too unstable. Now addition this to the fact that Antares’s ally Ursa sucks, and the Dragon Compact synchronizes their attacks effectively and you got a collapsed Antares and Ursa. Oh anddddd also the demoralized units that fought in Centaura.
I feel like the only reason antares managed to do a big conquest of centaura is because coalitions were formed too late. They picking them 1 by 1 until finally a coalition formed but it was too late Antares was already massive and was a superpower. But in the 2nd war every country formed a coalition to fight back antares.
*the only reason they won was because of plot armour, realistically the furthest they would've gotten would be near the end of Columbian campaign and the least far would be end of aquilan/halfway through vega
It seems that there is not much of a factor, but upon a detailed analysis of all campaigns, there are many factors that influenced this. The victory in the Cetane campaign occurred because Cetus made decisions unsuitable to its geographical location (creating a powerful navy instead of a balanced army without deviations to sea or land. There is a second reason why Scorpius defeated his green enemy . This reason is that Corvus struck blows that connected the entire army of Cetus, which left the south of Cetus unprotected. Antares was simply not opposed by anyone, everyone was at war with Corvus. Why then Corvus did not lose is an easy answer, he simply prepared a financial reserve by defusing the blockade by the Cetan fleet, which did not reach the blockade, as well as Corvus built a powerful coastal defense that prevented the influence of the Cetan fleet. Corvus's army was focused on land because the sea had already been neutralized. Consequently, Corvus could strike without fear of an aggressive enemy response. The reason for the defeat in Aquila is also not difficult to understand. The Akilans used their area ( forests ) as fortifications, reinforcing with their own man-made defensive structures, the Antares troops could not pass through this defense, but since Aquila was completely deprived of access to the sea and blockaded, its economy could not powerfully support the army, so Aquila's army did not compensate for losses, and because of this at some point it weakened, the fortifications ran out, Antares entered the plain fighting an enemy so weakened that victory was obvious. I don't know anything about the victory in Grusa and vega, I can't say anything, except that both countries are too weak and would hardly be able to resist the powerful Antares Empire. The victory in the Colombian united territories occurred for not the most obvious reasons, because Antares was close to the end, the positional deadlock rewound both sides, but the Antares forces tried to break through using the innovations of military equipment, and their numerical advantage contrasting their experiences of waging war in the mountains with the armed forces of the Colombians. Such equality of advantages for both rivals and the terrain did not allow the war to be carried out quickly. The reasons for the victory over the northern alliance are the same as the reason for the victory in Cetus - a war on two fronts and the cohesion of troops over one front. Only Ursa is here instead of Corvus.
@@thatguywhoanimids not really the Holy Roman Empire, it's only Skorpius, Lupus, Ara and Norma and their borders after splitting with Antares will be the same borders that they unify Antares.
@@imabitmid Probably because most nations Antares fought in was weaker (especially when the technology is meh) than Orion & Hydrus + Northern Centauran nations combined
@@Mitsubira_aratoshi id assume that Antares may be third in military strength but their generals and soldiers unlike the Orionites were already battle hardened and experienced from its recent war
They prepared and planned for decades to take over Centaura, but they didn't really plan to take over the other half of the world and the superpower that Orion was alongside its allies.
@@Sleve_McDichael1dude Their plan is to get everyone on the same page by literally invading everyone and installing a government that aligns with them Not planning anything for Hydra is waay too stupid
@@Sleve_McDichael1more like unprepared since the war essentially started because of the sudden death to both sides representatives, not only centauran continent is still not fully developed and unrests are everywhere in conquered continent making antares doomed at the start. The timeline is similar to ww2 Japanese campaign, they conquer many lands but still they can't control all of them let alone enough manpower, resources and factory
Some corrections about the video: 1. 1:13 The 1948 Antarean surprise attack on Orion did not only occur in Port Delphinus, but also Palmsville 2. 1:37 The Battle of Yelman Sea was originally fought by Hydrus vs Ursa, Hydrus lost almost all capital ships and called Orion for help. Later, Orion sent help to Yelman Sea and pushed Ursa out of Yelman Sea 3. 2:52 The Antarean Imperial Army pushed much more in the Libran Campaign and the campaign surely did not only last until 1950 (or else the Southern Antares would probably be invaded by the Compact). It was more possible that it was held as a stalemate until 1955 (when the Compact landed on Skorpii Riaa and Antares sent the army to the north) 4. 3:32 The Battle of Southern Ursan Coast should have been fought by both Hydrus and Orion if the enemy was Antares and Ursa. Hydrus would almost strike out from the war if there wasn’t Orionite support. Hydrus had no capability to fight both Antares and Ursa after Yelman Sea (the Navy of the Commonwealth was the weakest among the four main powers) 5. 4:37 ORS Lambda should not be here. The Lambda class was finished in 1951 so it was impossible for Lambda to fight in 1948. It would be more reasonable for the destroyer to be the Himalia class (ORS Himalia / ORS Carme) 6. 4:58 Belt was not a warship. Instead, it was the name for the Orionite dreadnought class (which the three dreadnoughts were finished and deployed to fight in 1951). The three belt class dreadnoughts were ORS Alnitak, ORS Alnilam and ORS Mintaka. 7. 5:09 Similar to 5. ORS Bullfrog should not be here. She should be under the sea of Port Delphinus (she got bombed to death by the Antarean Imperial Navy’s aircrafts) 8. 5:14 Also the same mistake as 5. AIS Skorpio should not be in the battle as she was finished in 1952 - 1953. In fact, the super carrier was only be designed after 1951 (when both Antares and Orion found that they needed air supremacy instead of big guns) 9. 6:49 I’m not quite sure about this one. However, the Compact might have landed on Tucana in 1955 as there is a lore post about the war crime of Orionite soldiers torturing an Antarean priest in 1955 Riaa. Which means that the Battle of Sagittarius Strait might have been broken out and won by the Compact in 1953. 10. 7:05 - 8:28 In 1951, Ursa was still standing and the Ursan Federal Navy had not collapsed yet. There was no way the Ursan mainland was invaded, especially by the Commonwealth (at that time the Commonwealth was probably working on HCS Serpens). Ursa collapsed due to a 3-sided war. This 3-sided situation would not occur before 1954 or 1956, until Antares found that the LIZ incident was planned by Ursa and declared war on Ursa. Ursa would be invaded by both the Compact and Antares. The Ursan territory would be engulfed in revolts and rebellions siding with the Compact would appear. The possible situation would be: the Federation of Ursa controlling the North, the Dragon Compact controlling and expanding in the South Eastern, the Antarean Imperial Army controlling and expanding in the South Western. 11. 12:38 I’ve watched your previous video about the Centauran War. There are no official flags of Vega, Grusa, Centauri, Tucana, Vulpa, Lacerta, Skorpii Grusi, Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Riaa (at least not posted before this comment was sent). Though it’s still cool that you designed some flags for them. 12. 12:48 Just a wording mistake. Tucana, Riaa and Centauri were not formed. They were RESTORED 13. 13:13 - 15:06 There is no lore posted about the Compact’s Army movement after they have landed on Northern Centaura. Here are some of my predictions: Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Grusi probably wouldn’t fall that quick. The whole process might be: half of Columba was liberated but the southern desert, half of the Skorpii Grusi was invaded by the summer of 1958. Columba would have been liberated at the same time or before that. Ravo would fall by the end of 1958 or even 1959. By 1960, both Skorpiis would fall to the Dragon Compact. Aquila and Cetus would probably also be liberated from Antares in 1960. The Dragon Compact would also invade the south of Antares from Libra and now Antares would fight a 2-sided war from North and South (1911 Cetus moment). In 1961, Skorpius would have fallen to the Dragon Compact and Aran Tau, emperor of Antares would have been captured. (Reminder: the whole 13 is my prediction not official lore, the official lore has not been updated after the Aquilan campaign 1914 for Centauran War and the Forman War lore is mostly about equipment and warships but not battles) 14. 15:28 Nice guess. However, the whole Forman War was estimated to be 80 - 90 Million death (not sure about this I can’t find the original message in Discord)
I wasn't initially sure if Palmsville was even in Port Delphinus since there isn't minute detail about the places of interests. I couldn't also find many details (or maybe I didn't look hard enough) about these warships. And for the 13th statement I tried to squeeze in as many Compact soldiers to match with the year duration. About 9, the lore says that Compact troops landed on eastern Tucana in 1956. But anyways, thank you for pointing out some mistakes my animation
I am pretty sure that lore-wise the Forman wars had ALOT MORE CASULTIES like tens of millions possibly like 100 million+. I am sure it says it somewhere on the lore posts (also keep in mind all the civilian casualties, countries like Riaa and Columba suffered ALOT OF CIVILLIAN CASULTEIS because of Antarean xenophobia and war crimes). Keep in mind that Forma in landmass is MUCH bigger then our own earth, and due to this countries are bigger and can support much bigger populations then in real life by us on earth.
@@1045HourVitality ''The total deaths caused by the Centauran War was around 100-million to 135-million deaths, though these estimates vary by country. The Forman War’s death toll, excluding the previous Centauran War’s count, was 50-million deaths. This is the official death toll from Orion. In total, the Centauran and Forman Wars combined cost around 150- to 185-million deaths over the span of 53 years.'' (I took this from the Centaura Wiki)
You didnt tell about the SIC Incident? Where an Ursan diplomat masked as an Orionite killed 3 Antarean Diplomats at the Libratum Island, in order to get an alliance from Antares again, to beat Hydrus and Orion?
@@1045HourVitality true but cetus could've either been able to repel them or their fall would be a lot slower due to the fact if they didn't annex southern corvus, corvus would probably not make an alliance w antares, therefore cetus would not be fighting on 2 fronts.
Mistakes in some battles: Port Delphinus: -Palmsville is not located on the Madison island -Antares captured half of the Madison island -The attack was split into 2 battles, one on the Madison island, one on the Orion's mainland, they attacked and captured half of Madison island as said. On the mainland, they attacked Palmsville, but are pushed back and retreated Libran Campaign: -The campaign lasted longer than just 2 years -Antares captured the Western big Island -Orion ends the stalemate somewhere in the late 50s Ursan landfall: -Ursa fell by 1954 -A while before that, people has found out that the war was caused by them, which kickstart the Ursan Blunder, they are being attacked by Compact, Antares and the Ursan rebels Centaura liberation: -Skorpius is located by the coast
Antares controlled Centaura because the Alliance was too late But during the events of Dead Ahead, The Solstice was formed, but Orion, Hydrus, Canis and Lepus, and Libra unite.
wouldnt it have been more logical if aquila did it instead of cetus? I read in the lore that cetans were the most indoctrinated country by the Antarean Youth
@@rarescevei8268 well i goggled centaura after forman wars and i saw columba and cetus nearly taking everything corvus only had like the coast and stuff
I can't believe that the world in centaura are big than our us 3 time but after Forman war, they just have 50 million casualties ( from fandom wiki), it less casualties than the Centaura war 100 million casualties ( from fandom wiki too).
I like how Antares, a nation that has been through half a century of constant warfare loses EVERY battle and falls in 5 years? (As the Coalition invades Centaura) It sounds like either lazy writing or somehow Antares just had a death wish as yeah, constant warfare isn't good for supplies and manpower, yet still had the bright idea of declaring war on Orion and the Coalition? Either way it's not the best writing. If it were me, I'd say the Coalition had strategic bombings all across Centaura, further weakening Antares until eventually they surrender from low resources, food, and war weariness. Much more understandable outcome. But nice video, as upsetting as the lore is, it was still entertaining to watch through your video
the opening is actually kind of incorrect antares was actually only wanting to unify all of the centauran continent, and had basically no wanting to go to the hydran continent However, they only did because of the SIC Incident (i think that's what its called) where an Antarean Diplomat and Orion Diplomat were found dead during a international conference that's what prompted Antares to go on ahead and attack the Orion Republic (and basically the rest of the Dragons Compact alliance) other than that, its good
Here's the kicker, Ursa is the one orchestrated the SIC Incident. That Orionite Representative is a crooked Ursan Cell that did the work to instigate the war between Antarean-Centaura and the free-nations of Hydra. Safe to say they had it coming when every side ganged up on Ursa being the one that started it all. That was later in the Forman War for the event known as The Ursan Blunder.
@@aldrichcruz9321 you do realize Kalvin Tau only wanted to take all of Centaura right? Aran Tau only continued that but not in the peaceful way Kalvin did, they didnt at all intend to want to go for Hydra at all, and only were prompted too because of the SIC Incident they might be conquerors, but they were only aiming for ONLY all of the Centaura continent.
If Cetus didn’t put so much effort into their navy and didn’t put minimal effort into their land military and if Aquila actually helped when Cetus was being occupied by Corvus/Antares this would never happen 🤦♂️
The Amount of riaan Rebel casualties seems very low, it would've likely been hell for the Antareans to Maintain control over the region because Partisans would have fled into the tundra and mountains and waged a guerrilla war until the allies landed on riaan soil
Ursan Submarine Skirmish are somewhat similar to the battle of atlantic where Wehrmacht Navy put up a dogging resistance on British American Soldiers those submarines target are supply merchant ships this made slow progress on Commonwealth Forces to resupply on battlefield
Logically, Ursa would have won the battle of the Yelman ocean, because if Ursa lost, then there would be no Serpent campaign. Where was the Serpent Campaign anyways? Lastly, during Centauran liberation, when Centauri, Tucana, and Riaa are liberated, I doubt they would be able to form strong militaries to support the compact alliance, after being severely war-torn. If they did, their equipment and uniforms would be similar, if not identical to other nations in the compact alliance and it would be easier for civilians from recently liberated Riaa, Tucana, and Centauri to directly enlist into the Orionite and Hydrusite military. Can you explain where the Serpent campaign is?
Whoa, this timeline animation is good! Although my only complaint is the death-toll by the end is far too low for a war THAT long. WW2's death toll was 70-80 *million* within 6 years, while your Forman War estimate was 301 760. Not even close to WW2s -- even though the Forman War is 7 YEARS LONGER THAN WW2. Other than that, this is a solid animation.
Even though this is fictional, it feels like the Pacific theator of ww2 2 major powers and their allies, surprise attacks at harbors/ ports, carriers, Antares has a similar flag to japan, and Orion has a similar flag to the U.S.
I think the casualties have to be more, in fandom wiki it said the Forman war cost 50m, I mean compare to WW2, this war supposed cost like 50m is reasonable
Orion is LITERALLY Forman Cetus. In others words, “What if Cetus wasn’t poland and was more like america..” Or “what if Cetus was just AWESOME in general..”
Update: I got hit with copyright strike. I had to silence the music on the landing segment. Sorry guys.
BUT if you want to listen to it, it's "Time, Forward!", it's a banger
may i inquire the name of the song at 0:42, also excellent video loved it very much
@@1045HourVitality From who?
@@TheAntareanGuy1908 used a copyrighted song lol
@@deniedentry6002 american conquest fight back theme
14:01 Can you remember the name of the music pls?
Alternate Title: *When the Imperium's plot armor wears off*
I like how Antares and Ursan fleets got absolutely destroyed by Hydrus, very surprising performance for a 60 year old country
Orion was there too, but the Sirius is based 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, getting way too much territory can really hamper with your supply, overextend your lines, leave other people to govern provinces since the government can’t enforce their control properly on territories far away, which can make a breeding ground for revolts, and overall just become way too unstable. Now addition this to the fact that Antares’s ally Ursa sucks, and the Dragon Compact synchronizes their attacks effectively and you got a collapsed Antares and Ursa. Oh anddddd also the demoralized units that fought in Centaura.
Erm by the end of the Forman war hydrus was 56
I feel like the only reason antares managed to do a big conquest of centaura is because coalitions were formed too late. They picking them 1 by 1 until finally a coalition formed but it was too late Antares was already massive and was a superpower.
But in the 2nd war every country formed a coalition to fight back antares.
Eh, Antares also took notes from wars in the past, which allowed them to not goof up.
*the only reason they won was because of plot armour, realistically the furthest they would've gotten would be near the end of Columbian campaign and the least far would be end of aquilan/halfway through vega
It seems that there is not much of a factor, but upon a detailed analysis of all campaigns, there are many factors that influenced this. The victory in the Cetane campaign occurred because Cetus made decisions unsuitable to its geographical location (creating a powerful navy instead of a balanced army without deviations to sea or land. There is a second reason why Scorpius defeated his green enemy . This reason is that Corvus struck blows that connected the entire army of Cetus, which left the south of Cetus unprotected. Antares was simply not opposed by anyone, everyone was at war with Corvus. Why then Corvus did not lose is an easy answer, he simply prepared a financial reserve by defusing the blockade by the Cetan fleet, which did not reach the blockade, as well as Corvus built a powerful coastal defense that prevented the influence of the Cetan fleet. Corvus's army was focused on land because the sea had already been neutralized. Consequently, Corvus could strike without fear of an aggressive enemy response. The reason for the defeat in Aquila is also not difficult to understand. The Akilans used their area ( forests ) as fortifications, reinforcing with their own man-made defensive structures, the Antares troops could not pass through this defense, but since Aquila was completely deprived of access to the sea and blockaded, its economy could not powerfully support the army, so Aquila's army did not compensate for losses, and because of this at some point it weakened, the fortifications ran out, Antares entered the plain fighting an enemy so weakened that victory was obvious. I don't know anything about the victory in Grusa and vega, I can't say anything, except that both countries are too weak and would hardly be able to resist the powerful Antares Empire. The victory in the Colombian united territories occurred for not the most obvious reasons, because Antares was close to the end, the positional deadlock rewound both sides, but the Antares forces tried to break through using the innovations of military equipment, and their numerical advantage contrasting their experiences of waging war in the mountains with the armed forces of the Colombians. Such equality of advantages for both rivals and the terrain did not allow the war to be carried out quickly. The reasons for the victory over the northern alliance are the same as the reason for the victory in Cetus - a war on two fronts and the cohesion of troops over one front. Only Ursa is here instead of Corvus.
@@SomerandomguyYoudontknow-h2lyeah people forget that poor writing is a factor of Antares victory
@_1_05_ ehh I see it more as plot convenience and not trying to be super realistic
ALL HOI4 PLAYER : WE NEED CENTAURA MOD
Good news: It actually did exist
@@vietnamese_botname then?
@@vietnamese_botname?
all the CENTAURA hoi4 mods are just reskins of nations in the world map, we need an actual hoi4 mod with the Centaura world map and all the nation
Fr tho😭
I like how after the centaura war Antares got steam rolled by Orion just shows what being hyper aggressive gets u
Orion : get rekt lololol
Antares : splits up like germany
@@jerryersha1709 lego_sound.mp3
@@jerryersha1709 literally it was worse than germanylol
@@jerryersha1709 but instead of becoming east and west, it became the *HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE*
@@thatguywhoanimids not really the Holy Roman Empire, it's only Skorpius, Lupus, Ara and Norma and their borders after splitting with Antares will be the same borders that they unify Antares.
I like how when the Dragon Compact arrived at Centaura, Antares never even got a single bit of land back nor counter-offensived.
Surprised their army did so poorly in the invasion of islands, that army was the same army to conquer all of centaura.
@@imabitmid Probably because most nations Antares fought in was weaker (especially when the technology is meh) than Orion & Hydrus + Northern Centauran nations combined
@@AdaxialT okay, thx for telling me, i just thought that if they beat Riaa, they could've also beat the commonwealth or orion 😂
@@imabitmidcentaura its weak in army and orion its the second strongest nation in technology and antares third
@@Mitsubira_aratoshi id assume that Antares may be third in military strength but their generals and soldiers unlike the Orionites were already battle hardened and experienced from its recent war
Crazy how Antares lost almost every single battle after the events of Centaura, also very nice style of mapping.
Thank you
They prepared and planned for decades to take over Centaura, but they didn't really plan to take over the other half of the world and the superpower that Orion was alongside its allies.
@@Sleve_McDichael1dude
Their plan is to get everyone on the same page by literally invading everyone and installing a government that aligns with them
Not planning anything for Hydra is waay too stupid
but still, no counter offensives?
@@Sleve_McDichael1more like unprepared since the war essentially started because of the sudden death to both sides representatives, not only centauran continent is still not fully developed and unrests are everywhere in conquered continent making antares doomed at the start. The timeline is similar to ww2 Japanese campaign, they conquer many lands but still they can't control all of them let alone enough manpower, resources and factory
Antares and Corvus in Centaura:🗿🗿🗿🗿
Antares,Ursa and Corvus in Forman Wars:🪰🪰🪰🪰
Fr I still like cetus tho cause they got nicer uniforms but I have to agree that antares has a better military.
AQUILAN SUPERIORITY UNQUESTIONABLE
I dont know much about the lore, but im 100% sure they lost to Antares in the centauran wars☠️
@@SwissCheeseNPCWho?
@@lildumbguy FOR THE KING!!!!
Some corrections about the video:
1. 1:13 The 1948 Antarean surprise attack on Orion did not only occur in Port Delphinus, but also Palmsville
2. 1:37 The Battle of Yelman Sea was originally fought by Hydrus vs Ursa, Hydrus lost almost all capital ships and called Orion for help. Later, Orion sent help to Yelman Sea and pushed Ursa out of Yelman Sea
3. 2:52 The Antarean Imperial Army pushed much more in the Libran Campaign and the campaign surely did not only last until 1950 (or else the Southern Antares would probably be invaded by the Compact). It was more possible that it was held as a stalemate until 1955 (when the Compact landed on Skorpii Riaa and Antares sent the army to the north)
4. 3:32 The Battle of Southern Ursan Coast should have been fought by both Hydrus and Orion if the enemy was Antares and Ursa. Hydrus would almost strike out from the war if there wasn’t Orionite support. Hydrus had no capability to fight both Antares and Ursa after Yelman Sea (the Navy of the Commonwealth was the weakest among the four main powers)
5. 4:37 ORS Lambda should not be here. The Lambda class was finished in 1951 so it was impossible for Lambda to fight in 1948. It would be more reasonable for the destroyer to be the Himalia class (ORS Himalia / ORS Carme)
6. 4:58 Belt was not a warship. Instead, it was the name for the Orionite dreadnought class (which the three dreadnoughts were finished and deployed to fight in 1951). The three belt class dreadnoughts were ORS Alnitak, ORS Alnilam and ORS Mintaka.
7. 5:09 Similar to 5. ORS Bullfrog should not be here. She should be under the sea of Port Delphinus (she got bombed to death by the Antarean Imperial Navy’s aircrafts)
8. 5:14 Also the same mistake as 5. AIS Skorpio should not be in the battle as she was finished in 1952 - 1953. In fact, the super carrier was only be designed after 1951 (when both Antares and Orion found that they needed air supremacy instead of big guns)
9. 6:49 I’m not quite sure about this one. However, the Compact might have landed on Tucana in 1955 as there is a lore post about the war crime of Orionite soldiers torturing an Antarean priest in 1955 Riaa. Which means that the Battle of Sagittarius Strait might have been broken out and won by the Compact in 1953.
10. 7:05 - 8:28 In 1951, Ursa was still standing and the Ursan Federal Navy had not collapsed yet. There was no way the Ursan mainland was invaded, especially by the Commonwealth (at that time the Commonwealth was probably working on HCS Serpens). Ursa collapsed due to a 3-sided war. This 3-sided situation would not occur before 1954 or 1956, until Antares found that the LIZ incident was planned by Ursa and declared war on Ursa. Ursa would be invaded by both the Compact and Antares. The Ursan territory would be engulfed in revolts and rebellions siding with the Compact would appear. The possible situation would be: the Federation of Ursa controlling the North, the Dragon Compact controlling and expanding in the South Eastern, the Antarean Imperial Army controlling and expanding in the South Western.
11. 12:38 I’ve watched your previous video about the Centauran War. There are no official flags of Vega, Grusa, Centauri, Tucana, Vulpa, Lacerta, Skorpii Grusi, Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Riaa (at least not posted before this comment was sent). Though it’s still cool that you designed some flags for them.
12. 12:48 Just a wording mistake. Tucana, Riaa and Centauri were not formed. They were RESTORED
13. 13:13 - 15:06 There is no lore posted about the Compact’s Army movement after they have landed on Northern Centaura. Here are some of my predictions: Skorpii Corvus and Skorpii Grusi probably wouldn’t fall that quick. The whole process might be: half of Columba was liberated but the southern desert, half of the Skorpii Grusi was invaded by the summer of 1958. Columba would have been liberated at the same time or before that. Ravo would fall by the end of 1958 or even 1959. By 1960, both Skorpiis would fall to the Dragon Compact. Aquila and Cetus would probably also be liberated from Antares in 1960. The Dragon Compact would also invade the south of Antares from Libra and now Antares would fight a 2-sided war from North and South (1911 Cetus moment). In 1961, Skorpius would have fallen to the Dragon Compact and Aran Tau, emperor of Antares would have been captured. (Reminder: the whole 13 is my prediction not official lore, the official lore has not been updated after the Aquilan campaign 1914 for Centauran War and the Forman War lore is mostly about equipment and warships but not battles)
14. 15:28 Nice guess. However, the whole Forman War was estimated to be 80 - 90 Million death (not sure about this I can’t find the original message in Discord)
I wasn't initially sure if Palmsville was even in Port Delphinus since there isn't minute detail about the places of interests. I couldn't also find many details (or maybe I didn't look hard enough) about these warships. And for the 13th statement I tried to squeeze in as many Compact soldiers to match with the year duration. About 9, the lore says that Compact troops landed on eastern Tucana in 1956. But anyways, thank you for pointing out some mistakes my animation
bro really learned the lore like it was history class or some shit (good job lmao)
Casualties are 50m
If you live in Forman, your history must get 💯
@@kisaragiminato8717 plot twist: the history exam: write for 1000 words just to explain how the Corvun-Antarean Alliance was formed
I am pretty sure that lore-wise the Forman wars had ALOT MORE CASULTIES like tens of millions possibly like 100 million+. I am sure it says it somewhere on the lore posts (also keep in mind all the civilian casualties, countries like Riaa and Columba suffered ALOT OF CIVILLIAN CASULTEIS because of Antarean xenophobia and war crimes).
Keep in mind that Forma in landmass is MUCH bigger then our own earth, and due to this countries are bigger and can support much bigger populations then in real life by us on earth.
From my research, there was 20m. Might be wrong.
Forma had less land than earth because it’s mostly ocean
@@Tired_Guy. Still, antares in 1908 was around the same size as South america. That means that the countries are much larger than what we have.
@@Imgonefromytnow I was just responding to how he said the Forma had more land than earth, I agree on the 100 million + casualties
@@1045HourVitality ''The total deaths caused by the Centauran War was around 100-million to 135-million deaths, though these estimates vary by country. The Forman War’s death toll, excluding the previous Centauran War’s count, was 50-million deaths. This is the official death toll from Orion. In total, the Centauran and Forman Wars combined cost around 150- to 185-million deaths over the span of 53 years.''
(I took this from the Centaura Wiki)
I like how Antares loses almost every single battle in the Forman wars
If you want to know what song was used for the Battle of the Libran Ocean, it's World In Conflict - The end is nigh
heads up: i screwed up with the hadina siege date it's 1956 not 1951 💀💀💀
During the invasion of libra why was there no flag to represent the blue team?
@@onyxthelegend6440maybe there no official map for Libra
But somehow there have fanmade flag on centaura part
@@onyxthelegend6440 There is no canonical Libran flag, and I couldn't find any fan flags
@@1045HourVitalitythat makes sense
You didnt tell about the SIC Incident?
Where an Ursan diplomat masked as an Orionite killed 3 Antarean Diplomats at the Libratum Island, in order to get an alliance from
Antares again, to beat Hydrus and Orion?
2:48 imagine dying to your own uniform.
Couldn't be us
i love your naval warfare style, it's creative. keep up the good work man
that hoi4 naval invasion sound activated my flight-fight response
verify...
britain naval invasion ptsd kicked in
All the bloodshed and war crimes were made because Cetus wanted more coal and iron…
ermmm ackshually antares planned the conquest before so it was gonna happen anyways
@@1045HourVitality true but cetus could've either been able to repel them or their fall would be a lot slower due to the fact if they didn't annex southern corvus, corvus would probably not make an alliance w antares, therefore cetus would not be fighting on 2 fronts.
@ForzaMilan-1 OH MY GOD A CRO SUPPORTER WHO ISNT A LUNATIC? THIS IS A RARE FIND!!
@ForzaMilan-1 And if they just invested in their ground forces a bit more, they couldve stabilised the front.
Antares is like every hoi4 players
They are cracked at land battle but they will never truly understand how naval battle work
Mistakes in some battles:
Port Delphinus:
-Palmsville is not located on the Madison island
-Antares captured half of the Madison island
-The attack was split into 2 battles, one on the Madison island, one on the Orion's mainland, they attacked and captured half of Madison island as said. On the mainland, they attacked Palmsville, but are pushed back and retreated
Libran Campaign:
-The campaign lasted longer than just 2 years
-Antares captured the Western big Island
-Orion ends the stalemate somewhere in the late 50s
Ursan landfall:
-Ursa fell by 1954
-A while before that, people has found out that the war was caused by them, which kickstart the Ursan Blunder, they are being attacked by Compact, Antares and the Ursan rebels
Centaura liberation:
-Skorpius is located by the coast
Which skorpius theres like 3
@@erneihasizaalbahari8034 the city
Man it’s gonna suck when classic revamps the entire lore for the one thousand trillionth billionth time
Antares controlled Centaura because the Alliance was too late
But during the events of Dead Ahead, The Solstice was formed, but Orion, Hydrus, Canis and Lepus, and Libra unite.
This channel could have so much potential. (btw new sub)
You said the same thing I said as well
14:15
I love how Cetus joins the good guys even though he was responsible for Antares starting to spread like an idiot
Gotta make sure to get a comeback
wouldnt it have been more logical if aquila did it instead of cetus? I read in the lore that cetans were the most indoctrinated country by the Antarean Youth
so i thought "Hmmmm, how can i listen to the copyrighted song?" then i opened another tab and started playing "Time, Foward!"
Ok these mapping videos are really cool and awesome, you should make more of these 🔥🔥🔥
stick around for more 😉
@@1045HourVitalityI'd suggest making the Grease Wars one
@@Wynnterz I'll do that
What is the song used in the battle of yelman sea
"Standing with greed and pride is what makes you fall"
Finally, Antares got crushed
My aquilan fellas liyng in Roland can rest
Just imagine HoI4's "We are Soldiers" playing the moment the music stops at 12:36
This needs more recognition! Very well done!
3:07 10:00 whats the title of music?
These hoi4 sound effects are so goofy and good at the same time. I like Corvus, personally.
Really good. You just got a new sub! Keep up the good work
This is really great at helping understand this world really great job
Despite all of this bloodshed, atleast corvus finally got southern corvus back :)
Cetus would probaly annex it again claiming that the local population would not be safe or sum
Doesnt Cetus just annex Southern Corvus when they are liberated?
@@rarescevei8268 well i goggled centaura after forman wars and i saw columba and cetus nearly taking everything corvus only had like the coast and stuff
@@HogridaaRidaa I'll look it up myself.
@@HogridaaRidaa I think it is fanmade, but I'm not sure.
I can't believe that the world in centaura are big than our us 3 time but after Forman war, they just have 50 million casualties ( from fandom wiki), it less casualties than the Centaura war 100 million casualties ( from fandom wiki too).
Discord said 20m. I'm so confused dawg
Love the choice of music
Ace Combat version of this is gonna be wild
1:50 what the name of music?
American Conquest OST - Rubilovka
@@F-5_tiger thank you:D
So can you make dummy vs noob timeline war please
That would be cool
maybe
@@1045HourVitality DO IT
YESS!!!!
DVN not have official world map,
You can only see old lore world map
Never knew those games had some sort of story, AND that they occur in the same universe
ANTERES GOT CRUSHED
we need the entire history of forma
for a more realistic causlaty rate, it was 100-135 mil 😭
I like how Antares, a nation that has been through half a century of constant warfare loses EVERY battle and falls in 5 years? (As the Coalition invades Centaura) It sounds like either lazy writing or somehow Antares just had a death wish as yeah, constant warfare isn't good for supplies and manpower, yet still had the bright idea of declaring war on Orion and the Coalition? Either way it's not the best writing. If it were me, I'd say the Coalition had strategic bombings all across Centaura, further weakening Antares until eventually they surrender from low resources, food, and war weariness. Much more understandable outcome. But nice video, as upsetting as the lore is, it was still entertaining to watch through your video
the opening is actually kind of incorrect
antares was actually only wanting to unify all of the centauran continent, and had basically no wanting to go to the hydran continent
However, they only did because of the SIC Incident (i think that's what its called) where an Antarean Diplomat and Orion Diplomat were found dead during a international conference
that's what prompted Antares to go on ahead and attack the Orion Republic (and basically the rest of the Dragons Compact alliance)
other than that, its good
Here's the kicker, Ursa is the one orchestrated the SIC Incident. That Orionite Representative is a crooked Ursan Cell that did the work to instigate the war between Antarean-Centaura and the free-nations of Hydra.
Safe to say they had it coming when every side ganged up on Ursa being the one that started it all. That was later in the Forman War for the event known as The Ursan Blunder.
you do know your wrong Antares are jingoist theyre takers
@@aldrichcruz9321 you do realize Kalvin Tau only wanted to take all of Centaura right? Aran Tau only continued that but not in the peaceful way Kalvin did, they didnt at all intend to want to go for Hydra at all, and only were prompted too because of the SIC Incident
they might be conquerors, but they were only aiming for ONLY all of the Centaura continent.
@@avg.mapper and thats called taking
Well, Ursa caused the incident
Nice vid deserves a like and a sub👍
Whats the song that plays during Yelman sea?
Auriga carried🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
10/10 content.
even if u screwed up the dates, its still fascinating to see this
Prepared for 4 yrs and can’t even do a counter attack 💀
A ship of their could wreck 3 ships of our . Orion was the favorite child all along
What is the song played at the Sagitarrius strait
fr
I didn’t know these games were connected
Yep centaura and dead ahead are pretty much the 1900s in an alternate universe
@@erneihasizaalbahari8034 It's all the same universe, Centaura is in the 1900s but Dead Ahead is like 1950 or something?
@@Gamerperson- i mean like earth and forma
If Cetus didn’t put so much effort into their navy and didn’t put minimal effort into their land military and if Aquila actually helped when Cetus was being occupied by Corvus/Antares this would never happen 🤦♂️
Ursan sleep experiment
Some where in ursan scientists do a sleep experiment where people cannot sleep which ends badly
Seeing the Cetus flag return sends like shocks.
How did you make the video? I wanna know what you used to make it
What is the first song name
The Amount of riaan Rebel casualties seems very low, it would've likely been hell for the Antareans to Maintain control over the region because Partisans would have fled into the tundra and mountains and waged a guerrilla war until the allies landed on riaan soil
Antares got nerfed really hard after the centauran war
I likw how centauri using all their troops and push antares together with orion and hydrus to their capital city, from small to op country lol
It’s because Antares used up all of its morale and man power while not focusing on defense which makes them easy to kill late game
Good job bro and what is the music of the minute 11:04
It's "Time, Forward!"
@@1045HourVitalityThank you so much
whats the music at the end!!! i cant find it!! i even tried putting my phone on the TV on google
same also searching for it
American Conquest: Fight Back theme song
Ursan Submarine Skirmish are somewhat similar to the battle of atlantic where Wehrmacht Navy put up a dogging resistance on British American Soldiers those submarines target are supply merchant ships this made slow progress on Commonwealth Forces to resupply on battlefield
what sound effects you use
Hearts of Iron 4.
@@1045HourVitality ok
Does anyone know the music around 5:20 ?
Logically, Ursa would have won the battle of the Yelman ocean, because if Ursa lost, then there would be no Serpent campaign. Where was the Serpent Campaign anyways? Lastly, during Centauran liberation, when Centauri, Tucana, and Riaa are liberated, I doubt they would be able to form strong militaries to support the compact alliance, after being severely war-torn. If they did, their equipment and uniforms would be similar, if not identical to other nations in the compact alliance and it would be easier for civilians from recently liberated Riaa, Tucana, and Centauri to directly enlist into the Orionite and Hydrusite military. Can you explain where the Serpent campaign is?
I checked all the google docs about Dead Ahead's lore, and there is no mention of a "Serpent's Campaign".
You’ve cooked this gets gold mate (new sub)
How much times you make this Animation map???
Its soo good be mod HOI4 btw....
12:01 - 12:30
What’s the ost here?
Satiate - strings by Kevin MacLeod
@@1045HourVitality Alr!
Thanks!
I hope the best for ur channel!
Long live the Orion Republic ✊🏻🔼🟦🟩🟨
looks more like the nusian republic colors tbh
Did Corvus get to keep southern Corvus, or was that given back to Cetus?
Creator says that Corvus keeps SC in discord server
@@1045HourVitality oh sweet!
a question, all of this is canon or is a fanmade? and if its canon, where can i see it?
Lore document.
@@1045HourVitality where can i find it? on the dc of the game?
@@leprikejs8009 It should be somewhere in the wiki, but you can also find it in the dc
we need comeback of Antares
you're not an og if you haven't heard "time, foward" pre-copyright strike /j 🔥🔥🔥
lol i'm gonna upload the og forman wars in odysee later
Antares: yep and i messed up.
Whoa, this timeline animation is good!
Although my only complaint is the death-toll by the end is far too low for a war THAT long. WW2's death toll was 70-80 *million* within 6 years, while your Forman War estimate was 301 760. Not even close to WW2s -- even though the Forman War is 7 YEARS LONGER THAN WW2.
Other than that, this is a solid animation.
Yeah, I admit I goofed up with the estimate. I'm never taking random discord users facts now lol
@@1045HourVitality yeah, maybe best to take from the wiki
Even though this is fictional, it feels like the Pacific theator of ww2
2 major powers and their allies, surprise attacks at harbors/ ports, carriers, Antares has a similar flag to japan, and Orion has a similar flag to the U.S.
If skorpius is a part of antares, then is Betelgeuse a part of orion
Interesting
Thank you for making this video. I have been wanting to see a mapping of the Forman war
What tools did you use to mapmake this vid?
I drew it in Microsoft Paint, did a bit of editing around in Pivot, then used clipchamp for sounds
@@1045HourVitality thanks bro, nice vid btw
I think the casualties have to be more, in fandom wiki it said the Forman war cost 50m, I mean compare to WW2, this war supposed cost like 50m is reasonable
4:43 nah bro is the developer of dead ahead knows astrology its because the orion belt exist
Antares took the entire Centaura continent down by attacking Orion
Antares, Corvus and Ursa: We have divided half the world, but we are weak and cannot beat 2 countries
Whats the song name in 11:12 is kinda Nice
"Time, Forward!"
can i get the song at 1:30?
Yeah bruh i still cant find it on yt 😭😭
Rublevka
I've never seen these episodes.
Antares literally effed around and found out.
what font do you use
Agency FB bold
The one in the thumbnail is Stencil
I feel like for the Battle of Southern Centaura, it should be renamed into the Southern Centauran Campaign just the the Northern Centauran Campaign.
Yeah, looking back it should've been that
1:32 📣🐒
Good job bro
thank you bro
Is this the Cold War in the sub-world or something?
No?
This is based off the Roblox game "Dead Ahead"
Orion is LITERALLY Forman Cetus.
In others words, “What if Cetus wasn’t poland and was more like america..”
Or “what if Cetus was just AWESOME in general..”
Lol
Just watched the forma meets earth video, I predicted it..
Antares got their ass handed to them 💀💀
forman wars are literally antares getting clapped
Precisely
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