I've watched years of bad football but this is the first time where I'm starting to question whether I'm going to watch consistently next year, it's supposed to be entrainment and spending another year where we are outgunned every week under center and boatraced in the division is the exact opposite. I might still be a fan but comeback to me when you figure it out, my patience is wearing thin.
I'm with you and there's no shame in sharing it . I stopped watching mostly since the bye . There's just better ways to spend my time When I watch football on Sundays now I love the redzone channel
I hate that they put us in a situation where we have to be upset about a win… absolutely ridiculous. Been begging for a win like this all season… of course they win now when it makes absolutely no difference but only sets us back in drafting a much needed qb.
It's because a win at the end of a 2 win season is meaningless. All it did was drop them down in the draft. If we don't get a good QB, we are stuck with Lock who played good in one game, sucked at all the rest.
Great discussion fellas, I agree to an extent with both of your arguments on what to do in the upcoming draft. I tend to lean more on Anthony’s thinking though, we’ve let a qb be coddled and brought up to be just what he always was for far too long. We have to be quick acting moving forward. Since we have not 1 long term qb on the roster, taking someone at the pick we end up getting may have to happen with the bridge situation that Alex suggested. It’s just frustrating we’re now in this predicament.
Guys, the Ravens have not locked up the division so the Browns are guaranteed to lose next week. Giants are also going to win against the Eagles 3rd string players. Daboll should have been fired at halftime yesterday. They are going to in QB hell for even longer. I hate this franchise.
@daviddeutsch9912 actually that is a very good point. I forgot about Eli. Thanks for the info. The question I still have is Sandwrs really worth it. I do not think so. There maybe a few bridge QB's that would be worth it.
Kyle McCord in the 4-5th round. The kid is leading college football in yds at freaking Syracuse, and looked good at Ohio st. No one is even talking about this kid at all, and he’s my surprise QB in this years draft.
@@Collegefootballscouting1, he had decent stats there, but the fact that he got better playing with a much less talented offense tells me a lot about the kid. With good coaching, I think he could be one of the steals in this draft.
The only solution I can see is drafting BPA will johnson and then trading back into the first for a guy like milroe in the bottom of the first round so we can get the fifth year option. Because he will have to sit. But he has elite athleticism and a good deep ball he just needs refinement. I would feel more comfortable with this
I was screaming at the tv yesterday…we don’t even know how to lose properly…have been a Giant’s fan for more than 55yrs and not sure I can handle this anymore…
Thank you Anthony, years ago when the run game covered for bad QB play and you could take 6 years waiting the only take your guy mindset worked. Now with the QB being the whole deal you keep firing shots even if they are not the guy. However Alex is right, you don't mortgage the future picks on someone who isn't the guy. Last year Penix or McCarthy were there to stick and pick and we should have. This year if we don't have one of these guys right there we fire a shot later
This draft doesn't have any NFL QB's, they are better off drafting Van Dyke or green in the 3rd or Shough in the 5th and starting them. They can draft a franchise QB in 26
@Amber-ed3vd No, you cant waste a pick on a QB who doesn't deserve it. They can draft the best player available, followed by TE, Center, guard and build a team. Obviously you know nothing about QB's because Allar, Klubnik and King are all franchise QB's
People forget how good drew lock played last year for the seahawks only thing the giants need to do is improve the o line and draft a jaxson dart or kyle mmcord with the third pick or sign fields or joe milton if we cant get ward or sanders in the first round and let lock be the bridge qb that teach them the ropes💯
@MartialFit50 it doesn't matter who is the qb as long as the qb is good, good qbs have made the playoffs and beat elite qbs,I just want a good qb that can lead us to the playoffs
Remember when Seattle gave Matt Flynn a bunch of money to be their starter and drafted Russ in the 3rd round? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Gotta keep taking shots.
I have learned that, due to broken ribs, Pickett probably will be sidelined against the Giants. That means Philly would start their third-string QB against us. Our chance of winning another "meaningless" game goes up. That would drop us further down to around the 9th pick in the draft. That will really hurt the rebuild.
the league has gotten a bit annoying. you either have a GREAT QB or you don't. All the teams that don't are pitiful 3 or 4 win teams and there is a heap of them. Which turns the second half of the season against fans because all we can do is hope to LOSE!!!! The game has gotten more bling . Games every day and now ESPN BETS is all over every single ad. if you are a Chiefs fan i'm sure its great. But I gotta say, this hobby of watching football is wearing awfully thin. Extra Extra thin if you are a NYG fan .
Alex, stop worrying about whether you come off as too pessimistic and be honest. A few comments on youtube saying you're pessimistic is not the majority of peoples' views of you. I think you're perspective is necessary for balance between you and Anthony.
Just lost a pools ticket worth thousands (perhaps up to 50k) because the Giants decided to win a meaningless game. Indy was playing for the post-season and still put forth a questionnable effort on Defense. ( I had tonight's game boxed ). I'm pissed.
If you go look at the top 5 Wb. Numbers and overall on pff or anything and compare them to shedure and cam I want you to come back on the podcast and tell me what you see that say they not better or same level
I'd say if we don't get in the top 3, don't trade up. Don't trade up no matter what. Draft BPA, then draft a QB in the second round. They all are on the same level after the top 2
I think the most realistic option would be if the giants don’t end up picking in the top three of the nfl draft they should take a quarterback in day two or day three if they don’t have the conviction of said player by picking him in the first round
If we are 4 or below in draft then let's take that cb from Michigan then DT 2nd. Then try and draft Gabriel or Dart. Those 2 qb's didn't look bad everything I watched them play this year.
Or the QB from Georgia. He looked good when throwing to Bowers n Mckonkey last year so we get a good free agent WR plus Neighbors should be God targets for ol boy
I am taking the win yesterday as a heartbreak , but there is another option to go: 4th pick take Hunter if there if not go with Kelvin Banks OT Texas, and in the 2nd round get themselves another top offensive player WR with pick 36, and pick 78 3rd round pick Kyle McCord an. McCabe is no slouch and remember his last 2 college years have been excellent
I don't care what nobody says but the fact that Mara has been incompetent in handling this team even before Schoen and keeping him is the way he moves he gets too caught in his feelings with these guys but we being fans can only hope for the best....
Stick and pick no matter what. If Ward/Sanders makes it, snag em. Otherwise pick BPA then look to trade back into the back of the first for Milroe, or grab Dart in the second
Because whatever quarterback we end up with is going to have to be able to get on that field work with Malik neighbors And whoever else we need. We also need an offensive lineman who isn't going to be a revolving door And is going to be able to stay healthy. So if we can get an offensive lineman or two that would have immediately boost our team as well
You can't worry about the future. You have to play for the day because that is all you have. Its nice to want great players in the draft but you don't sacrifice winning for it. It was a Great victory!! And much needed!! I would never choose to lose games to get a higher draft pick. That's a weasels and a politicians mentality. Not a players and definitely not a true fans mentality. It's the mentality of a culture that gives into pressure and gives up on each other, that has no integrity. That's definitely not the kind of team I desire nor the kind of fan base that I would want as a player. We don't need a culture of losing games to score a higher draft pick. If you're a fan of the ny football Giants you never root for them to lose.
What a fun game. Best possible game for both my kids first in person. draft position be damned. for me, greatest Giants performance at the perfect time. Great stuff guys. avid listener. keep it up.
Maybe unpopular opinion but definitely have felt for a while there are too many holes for a mid rookie QB to fix their first year. get Will Johnson, a more aggressive DC to help our dline eat, a good run stuffing DT, Oline depth, then you can afford a good playmaker in free agency. This draft could help a mediocre QB look decent if you let it. Hell take a qb in the 2nd or later. Or we could sell everything, ruin a QB first round draft pick and empty the pick cupboard from this year and possibly next. Sounds like a giants move to me smh. Armchair gm here
Giants blew it BIG TIME yesterday. You can rest assured if the Eagles were in the Giants position, they would have said..."Hey Maleek, you have a toe injury, you will sit out this game. That's because the Eagles are a smarter organization than the Giants. Two years in a row the Giants screwed up the draft by winning meaning less games.
I don’t trust ownership or JS. Only thing he did well was manage the cap. They need an outside firm to do a thorough analysis of the organization and choose the GM.
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Shedeur sanders is not top 20? All the mock draft have shedeur top 4 in last year which was one best class. Stop shitting on shedeur because team missing on him to justify the mistake giants did yesterday
@Amber-ed3vd Williams, Daniels,Maye and Penix would all go before him no one thinks he would've gone in front of them, I'd take mccarthy in front of him too, Sanders doesn't have an elite trait
It don’t make a difference who they draft cuz as long as Daboll is our HC we will not go to a SB!!! He simply doesn’t have the qualities it takes to win a SB..
Just because the bears got all the pieces they needed they didn't have the main piece which is the coach they run the wrong scheme is not too many good coaches out there they always want to try to make the quarterback fit with what they do instead of adjusting their offense a scheme to what the quarterback does so that's not a good example
The Smart Move would be to draft DT MASON GRAHAM with our first round pick. Pair with Dex. As for QB, sign Drew Lock to a 2 year bridge K and draft Milroe for development.
Repeat after me: The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot.
I think we just need to let that dream of picking 1 or 2 just go and deal with reality, we most likely will beat the Eagles since they will be sitting most of there players next week since they have nothing to play for, we will probably be picking somewhere from 5 thru 9, lets just pick the best player and focus on a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounds, there are several very good QB's in that area, my sleeper is Kyle McCord, he broke all the ACC records for passing this year and reminds me alot of a young Matthew Stafford, 6' 3" 220lbs and very accurate. We should not sell the farm for getting the Cam Ward or Sheudder Sanders, we need all the draft picks we can get due to all of the team needs.
That’s a terrible take. “Take a qb 1st round every year until you hit even if you think they’re bad” while missing on top talent to assist a qb on succeeding lmao.
If we can keep Lock for a two year deal if he has a decent game next week win or not the major thing is GM and HC I don’t really trust them and I would like if we could move on
Dude the Giants made a big mistake winning…. As a matter of fact…it’s either Daboll said I’m getting fired , so the Hell with it I’m gonna win this game…Or Mara told him to win so it’ll be an excuse to keep him!!! Either way, it’s a total disaster, cuz now we might have use valuable picks to go and one of top QB’s!!!!!
How many times have we picked in the top 10 and still suck? And how many times have the Chiefs picked in the bottom 10 and they keep winning Super Bowls? A good G.M. will draft good players no matter where they pick. Fire Shoen and Daboll.
You are correct. I still feel that if Darnold stays, the Giants will seek a trade for JJ McCarthy. Possibility for a team to want our pick in exchange for a bunch of later ones or wait next year. The Giants will continue it's tradition, selecting a Caucasian QB over 6'2.
@charlesvandenburgh7754 rather a 6 foot 2 white guy than the trash in this draft. Arch is the qb we need to draft in next year's draft. Giants are going nowhere
I read that and we all know that good players come out of Penn State and the Big Ten Conference. The Giants love tall QBs; the last three averaged a bit over 6'4.
We as Giants fans deserve better than this garbage. Our 100th anniversary and we field this mess week in, week out. This one win will give Daboll and Shoen something to point to and say look we’re not far off. Meanwhile we’re going to get more of this next year. Pathetic. Mara is clueless letting these jokes run his franchise.
My biggest fear is the Eagles tanking themselves in the last game and letting the Giants win. They have done it before, it is to their benefit to do it again to screw the Giants. I would not play Lock in the game or at least pull him after one quarter along with Nabers and Tracey. Look what Cleveland is doing, with that KTR at QB they were never going to score a touchdown yesterday and Winston is on the bench. Browns are 18.5 point underdogs to the third String Raven team. Take a lesson from the Browns on tanking. Tanking is more of who you put on the field vs the effort on the field of those who are playing. Did you see the energy in the Commanders game last night, do they care what their record was last year?
The Eagles will give #26 the ball enough to break the record next week, but they will definitely purposely lose the game only to make sure the NYGs don’t get a good QB. Remember how the Eagles were able to draft Smith a few years back? That ownership gives zero flicks if they gotta lose a game just to hurt another NFC opponent if possible, no matter how the optics of it looks. The NYGs have just never been a franchise good at the none game aspects of the league, Mara is more worried about the teams legacy being squeaky clean than winning actual games as it seems at times. He has to have both, all while the rest of the league plays the NYGs laughing all the way to the bank.
Giants must fire Schoen and Daboll after yesterday or just commit to Schoen and Daboll for two more years but don’t let them mortgage future assets. I don’t care what happens or who is at fault. The incentives are a disaster for a lame duck regime in this upcoming draft.
So lets talk about the ridiculous art of tanking. First of all, a lot players on the team are seeking jobs for next year, wether its the Giants or other teams. Second of all these are paid professionals and as such should have individual pride in their profession. And finally, tanking is against NFL policy and if a player or team is caught, severe ramifications can be administered. As a fan, i was rooting for the Giants and always will. I saw a really dark comment during stream about how sad it was to see fans wanting to see the Giants win. Well they paid good money to root how they choose and for ANYONE to criticize them is so incrediably wrong and quiet frankly evil. Finally, there are no franchise QB's in this draft. I belive if they wete in last years draft they would not be in the top 8 QB's drafted. By the way if the draft were held today, New England would be #1 and they would not be drafting a QB. In this case the Giants still would have a decent chance in picking Ward or Sanders. I prefer a bridge QB for this year at least. Finally if the NFL would implement a lottery system of some kind, this would REDUCE, the talk of tanking which is so out of bounds. Everyone stop crying, i enjoyed the win and feel it will not hamper the Giants much. I understand that picking lower effects the sum totall of higher draft selections in each round. However, if done correctly like the 2024 draft, the Giants can still be productive.
This is a colossal failure because if we have to use draft capital which we need for ourselves. If you're going to win do it before you're guaranteed the first pick. If we can't draft a qb keep Joe and Brian on lame duck status. I want the new regime to pick the next qb.
You know the Eagles are going to more than just thank the game, they are going to throw it. You should be looking at how far the fall with 4 wins. Out of the top 10. The only hope now is Drew Lock keeps growing.
Guys one more thing the Eagles will not sit Barkley the whole game and Barkley is on the revenge tour don’t think Barkley would not love to cook us one more time before he rumbles into the playoffs
So now you doing reverse psychology on yourself by saying we don't know if these quarterbacks going to panned out the point is we need the opportunity to find out we can't keep not finding out
WELL THAT'S IS THAT WE ARE AT 4 PICK IF WE WIN NEXT WEEK AGAINST THE EAGLES THEN WE WILL PICK AT 9TH IN THE 2025 DRAFT SO MUCH FOR GETTING A NEW FRANCHISE QB NOW WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE GET TIER 2 GUY LIKE MILROE OR BECK OR DART IF NOT THEM THEN A FREE AGENT QB LIKE FIELDS CASINS OR A QB AT AVERAGE NFL LEVEL OH FUCKING JOY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Giants need competent QB play. Plug in a Cam Ward and Nabers can get 1500+ yds easy. We can actually use Hyatt. Wandale can be an elite slot WR. Stop the nonsense. If Daboll can find a prominent DC the Giants can be a playoff team.
The Giants don’t deserve any success. They consistently accept mediocre talent and believe they’re on the rise. When was the last time the Giants were relevant? You let Barkley go, and your last source of excitement was a wide receiver. Your only focus should be selling tickets and winning. Draft a Quarterback with a top pick and fill up on talent in the second round. Stop acting like - Kirk cousins or any of the old quarterback is needed. Go to Young and exciting fresh blood.
I hate this. I hope you guys are right that they get their pick but I have zero faith in this team. I’m sorry but they have proven to us that they can’t do anything right
So in all…Keeping Dabol is only going to put this franchise in a deeper Hell Hole!!! The combination of Schoen & Dabol has been a total mess and keeping them at this point will be an even bigger mess… Mara is Destroying this Franchise…
Might be a blessing in disguise that we won yesterday. We can always get a bridge qb like kirk for cheap or fields and compete and get a great defensive player like will Johnson or Mason graham. And keep building instead of reaching.
No optimism, unfortunately you are an unserious team if you don’t have a good qb. We don’t have one rostered in 2025 lol. People think we will be gifted wrapped a blue chip prospect with a good roster. We aren’t close to having a good roster, it’s worse than gettlemans. It’s borderline XFL.
Thanks for a great show guys!
I've watched years of bad football but this is the first time where I'm starting to question whether I'm going to watch consistently next year, it's supposed to be entrainment and spending another year where we are outgunned every week under center and boatraced in the division is the exact opposite. I might still be a fan but comeback to me when you figure it out, my patience is wearing thin.
Started watching soccer .
I am sick of losing every year and also sick of being outclassed.
Could have kept this to yourself. No one is gonna care 🤷🏻♂️
I'm with you and there's no shame in sharing it . I stopped watching mostly since the bye .
There's just better ways to spend my time
When I watch football on Sundays now I love the redzone channel
For me even if they are losing, the games are just boring AF and I’d rather watch any other game
I hate that they put us in a situation where we have to be upset about a win… absolutely ridiculous. Been begging for a win like this all season… of course they win now when it makes absolutely no difference but only sets us back in drafting a much needed qb.
It's because a win at the end of a 2 win season is meaningless. All it did was drop them down in the draft. If we don't get a good QB, we are stuck with Lock who played good in one game, sucked at all the rest.
Great discussion fellas, I agree to an extent with both of your arguments on what to do in the upcoming draft. I tend to lean more on Anthony’s thinking though, we’ve let a qb be coddled and brought up to be just what he always was for far too long. We have to be quick acting moving forward. Since we have not 1 long term qb on the roster, taking someone at the pick we end up getting may have to happen with the bridge situation that Alex suggested. It’s just frustrating we’re now in this predicament.
Guys, the Ravens have not locked up the division so the Browns are guaranteed to lose next week. Giants are also going to win against the Eagles 3rd string players. Daboll should have been fired at halftime yesterday. They are going to in QB hell for even longer. I hate this franchise.
good call!
LoL, they will be in QB till 2026, absolutely no 1st rd QB's in this draft
Sanders and Ward are 1st rd QBs
Not goin to lie Anthony absolutely cooked and I agree w almost everything he said
Deion isn’t letting Shedeur go to Tennessee or Cleveland
@she...and how is Deuon doing that?
100%
@@bruce5402by doing what the mannings did
@daviddeutsch9912 actually that is a very good point. I forgot about Eli. Thanks for the info. The question I still have is Sandwrs really worth it. I do not think so. There maybe a few bridge QB's that would be worth it.
Cleveland no but Tennessee probably
Kyle McCord in the 4-5th round. The kid is leading college football in yds at freaking Syracuse, and looked good at Ohio st. No one is even talking about this kid at all, and he’s my surprise QB in this years draft.
Good pick. He is a sleeper
I'm also thinking he might be a hidden gem.
(I grew up in Syracuse) 😊
I like McCord but I don’t think he looked good at Ohio State
@@Collegefootballscouting1, he had decent stats there, but the fact that he got better playing with a much less talented offense tells me a lot about the kid. With good coaching, I think he could be one of the steals in this draft.
He’s a great QB2.. NOTHING SPECIAL
We Would’ve Lost Guys But Malik Went Absolutely CRAZY.. He Literally Was The Difference & Drew Lock Had His Best Day Of His Career Arguably
Nabers gave the Giants 1 win this season, talk about wasted draft pick.
The only solution I can see is drafting BPA will johnson and then trading back into the first for a guy like milroe in the bottom of the first round so we can get the fifth year option. Because he will have to sit. But he has elite athleticism and a good deep ball he just needs refinement. I would feel more comfortable with this
I was screaming at the tv yesterday…we don’t even know how to lose properly…have been a Giant’s fan for more than 55yrs and not sure I can handle this anymore…
Can’t wait to go 5-12 next season with Taylor heineke or whatever career back up
Nope. 4 and 13. You give them too much credit
@ I tried to find a balance between shitty record and still zero shot of top qb.
Why? Is Vance Joseph going to be the head coach?
It will be 4-13. Just bad enough to keep us in 2026 from also being able to draft a true franchise QB. We are in hell. Of course I am upset about it.
Yesterday sucked. I'm still livid. I hate this damn team
Thank you Anthony, years ago when the run game covered for bad QB play and you could take 6 years waiting the only take your guy mindset worked. Now with the QB being the whole deal you keep firing shots even if they are not the guy. However Alex is right, you don't mortgage the future picks on someone who isn't the guy. Last year Penix or McCarthy were there to stick and pick and we should have. This year if we don't have one of these guys right there we fire a shot later
Winning meangless was ridiculous. This will set them back. No matter how you look at you need qb. Especially when you have Malik who needs a good qb
This draft doesn't have any NFL QB's, they are better off drafting Van Dyke or green in the 3rd or Shough in the 5th and starting them. They can draft a franchise QB in 26
Sanders and Ward are NFL QBs
@Jay-7154 LoL, no They are both 1 read stare down QB's who have played easy competition. This does not work in the pros
@TonydaGM so you want to lose the next 2 years. That is so dumb. You want to wait, archie Manning, you don't even know how good he will be
@Amber-ed3vd No, you cant waste a pick on a QB who doesn't deserve it. They can draft the best player available, followed by TE, Center, guard and build a team. Obviously you know nothing about QB's because Allar, Klubnik and King are all franchise QB's
Anthony, how does last weekend’s win make NYG less desirable for a possible incoming GM or HC?
People forget how good drew lock played last year for the seahawks only thing the giants need to do is improve the o line and draft a jaxson dart or kyle mmcord with the third pick or sign fields or joe milton if we cant get ward or sanders in the first round and let lock be the bridge qb that teach them the ropes💯
What happens to Tommy Parmigiana and his agent ????
They had to be panicking watching Drew play yesterday
@MartialFit50 it doesn't matter who is the qb as long as the qb is good, good qbs have made the playoffs and beat elite qbs,I just want a good qb that can lead us to the playoffs
Can’t wait till the Monday after the season ends……….to see who stays and who goes.
Remember when Seattle gave Matt Flynn a bunch of money to be their starter and drafted Russ in the 3rd round? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Gotta keep taking shots.
I have learned that, due to broken ribs, Pickett probably will be sidelined against the Giants. That means Philly would start their third-string QB against us. Our chance of winning another "meaningless" game goes up. That would drop us further down to around the 9th pick in the draft. That will really hurt the rebuild.
the league has gotten a bit annoying. you either have a GREAT QB or you don't. All the teams that don't are pitiful 3 or 4 win teams and there is a heap of them. Which turns the second half of the season against fans because all we can do is hope to LOSE!!!!
The game has gotten more bling . Games every day and now ESPN BETS is all over every single ad.
if you are a Chiefs fan i'm sure its great. But I gotta say, this hobby of watching football is wearing awfully thin. Extra Extra thin if you are a NYG fan .
Alex, stop worrying about whether you come off as too pessimistic and be honest. A few comments on youtube saying you're pessimistic is not the majority of peoples' views of you. I think you're perspective is necessary for balance between you and Anthony.
I appreciate that, I just don’t know cuz nobody else says the opposite haha
Stay where we are and take McCord
I would love McCord too!
Giants fans who want sanders over ward are the same ones that where saying to not draft maye
Should NYGs fie Daboll and Joe S before the Eagles game? Elevate Brandon Brown to GM, and give a coordinator the HC job for the last game.
No.
Anthony is saying that you miss 100% of the shots you dont take when it comes to QB.
Precisely
Just lost a pools ticket worth thousands (perhaps up to 50k) because the Giants decided to win a meaningless game. Indy was playing for the post-season and still put forth a questionnable effort on Defense.
( I had tonight's game boxed ).
I'm pissed.
Boy if they win next week and don't get a qb i am completely done with this team. This is crazy
Go get Darnold
He'll suck in NY like he did with the jets , Vikings are paying dude to stay.
As far as next years draft is concerned based on if they go the free agent route….. no one’s giving up the 1st pick for Arch Manning lol
If you go look at the top 5 Wb. Numbers and overall on pff or anything and compare them to shedure and cam I want you to come back on the podcast and tell me what you see that say they not better or same level
I'd say if we don't get in the top 3, don't trade up. Don't trade up no matter what. Draft BPA, then draft a QB in the second round. They all are on the same level after the top 2
I think the most realistic option would be if the giants don’t end up picking in the top three of the nfl draft they should take a quarterback in day two or day three if they don’t have the conviction of said player by picking him in the first round
If we are 4 or below in draft then let's take that cb from Michigan then DT 2nd. Then try and draft Gabriel or Dart. Those 2 qb's didn't look bad everything I watched them play this year.
Or the QB from Georgia. He looked good when throwing to Bowers n Mckonkey last year so we get a good free agent WR plus Neighbors should be God targets for ol boy
We’ll be just fine guys relax
😂😅😂😅😂.
WHY?
This nightmare season has gotten worse. Unbelievable.
and...if you think it can't STILL get worse, wait until next game.
I am taking the win yesterday as a heartbreak , but there is another option to go:
4th pick take Hunter if there if not go with Kelvin Banks OT Texas, and in the 2nd round get themselves another top offensive player WR with pick 36, and pick 78 3rd round pick Kyle McCord an. McCabe is no slouch and remember his last 2 college years have been excellent
I don't care what nobody says but the fact that Mara has been incompetent in handling this team even before Schoen and keeping him is the way he moves he gets too caught in his feelings with these guys but we being fans can only hope for the best....
I remember he was patient with Tom Coughlin, and that resulted in two Super Bowls. So there’s that.
Stick and pick no matter what. If Ward/Sanders makes it, snag em. Otherwise pick BPA then look to trade back into the back of the first for Milroe, or grab Dart in the second
Because whatever quarterback we end up with is going to have to be able to get on that field work with Malik neighbors And whoever else we need. We also need an offensive lineman who isn't going to be a revolving door And is going to be able to stay healthy. So if we can get an offensive lineman or two that would have immediately boost our team as well
You can't worry about the future. You have to play for the day because that is all you have. Its nice to want great players in the draft but you don't sacrifice winning for it. It was a Great victory!! And much needed!! I would never choose to lose games to get a higher draft pick. That's a weasels and a politicians mentality. Not a players and definitely not a true fans mentality. It's the mentality of a culture that gives into pressure and gives up on each other, that has no integrity. That's definitely not the kind of team I desire nor the kind of fan base that I would want as a player. We don't need a culture of losing games to score a higher draft pick. If you're a fan of the ny football Giants you never root for them to lose.
Dillion Gabriel of the Oregon Ducks would be a good choice at QB. Watch the Ohio State Oregon Bowl game.
He isn't tall enough to see over the ta;; defensive linemen.
I think Gabriel would be good throwing to Neighbors and get Tee Higgins. Maybe draft a good Wr also
Or draft Milroe or Dart
Gabriel is too small
I won't watch until we have hope at the QB position
What a fun game. Best possible game for both my kids first in person. draft position be damned. for me, greatest Giants performance at the perfect time. Great stuff guys. avid listener. keep it up.
lets put Daboll and Scheon on the o line and only play 10 hats and they can try as hard as they want
Maybe unpopular opinion but definitely have felt for a while there are too many holes for a mid rookie QB to fix their first year. get Will Johnson, a more aggressive DC to help our dline eat, a good run stuffing DT, Oline depth, then you can afford a good playmaker in free agency. This draft could help a mediocre QB look decent if you let it. Hell take a qb in the 2nd or later. Or we could sell everything, ruin a QB first round draft pick and empty the pick cupboard from this year and possibly next. Sounds like a giants move to me smh. Armchair gm here
But I love these guys
Not enough subscribers……..what’s up with that……oooh we what’s up with that…….😂😂😂😂
Giants blew it BIG TIME yesterday. You can rest assured if the Eagles were in the Giants position, they would have said..."Hey Maleek, you have a toe injury, you will sit out this game. That's because the Eagles are a smarter organization than the Giants. Two years in a row the Giants screwed up the draft by winning meaning less games.
I don’t trust ownership or JS. Only thing he did well was manage the cap. They need an outside firm to do a thorough analysis of the organization and choose the GM.
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Shedeur sanders is not top 20? All the mock draft have shedeur top 4 in last year which was one best class. Stop shitting on shedeur because team missing on him to justify the mistake giants did yesterday
No one had him in the top 4 last yr
@gunnertdj1902 ppl are saying now shedeur would been top qb if he was in last year draft
@Amber-ed3vd Williams, Daniels,Maye and Penix would all go before him no one thinks he would've gone in front of them, I'd take mccarthy in front of him too, Sanders doesn't have an elite trait
@@gunnertdj1902 He was predicted to go after Drake Maye. He has elite accuracy and ball placement.
Nabors is a winner and I will get a QB to get him the ball. Build the team around Nabors
If they trade up and it all goes to hell I will never watch them again in my life
Hopefully they can draft Jalen Milroe and have him sit. He has some generational upside.
Bring in a veteran quarterback and have the #1pick learn and help him develop.
In the words of marcellus wallace....this is just pride 'messing' with you.
Sheduer will be a Giant. His pops ain't letting him play in Tennessee or Cleveland!!
We want Cam not Shadeur
It don’t make a difference who they draft cuz as long as Daboll is our HC we will not go to a SB!!! He simply doesn’t have the qualities it takes to win a SB..
There is zero chance the Giants wind up with too pick or second pick
1st Round - Giants should draft Michigan DT Mason Graham and pair him with Dex in the interior D-Line. Best Player Available.
Just because the bears got all the pieces they needed they didn't have the main piece which is the coach they run the wrong scheme is not too many good coaches out there they always want to try to make the quarterback fit with what they do instead of adjusting their offense a scheme to what the quarterback does so that's not a good example
The Smart Move would be to draft DT MASON GRAHAM with our first round pick. Pair with Dex. As for QB, sign Drew Lock to a 2 year bridge K and draft Milroe for development.
Repeat after me:
The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot. The draft is a crapshoot.
I think we just need to let that dream of picking 1 or 2 just go and deal with reality, we most likely will beat the Eagles since they will be sitting most of there players next week since they have nothing to play for, we will probably be picking somewhere from 5 thru 9, lets just pick the best player and focus on a QB in the 3rd or 4th rounds, there are several very good QB's in that area, my sleeper is Kyle McCord, he broke all the ACC records for passing this year and reminds me alot of a young Matthew Stafford, 6' 3" 220lbs and very accurate. We should not sell the farm for getting the Cam Ward or Sheudder Sanders, we need all the draft picks we can get due to all of the team needs.
Any thoughts on the Giants potentially trading for JJ McCarthy since Sam darnold has been balling
Why would the Vikings trade McCarthy.
pressured speech…. And Ant
That’s a terrible take. “Take a qb 1st round every year until you hit even if you think they’re bad” while missing on top talent to assist a qb on succeeding lmao.
If we can keep Lock for a two year deal if he has a decent game next week win or not the major thing is GM and HC I don’t really trust them and I would like if we could move on
What?
What good is A lottery pick QB when your o line is horrible??
Ask Neal, JMS and ezeudu
Dude the Giants made a big mistake winning…. As a matter of fact…it’s either Daboll said I’m getting fired , so the Hell with it I’m gonna win this game…Or Mara told him to win so it’ll be an excuse to keep him!!! Either way, it’s a total disaster, cuz now we might have use valuable picks to go and one of top QB’s!!!!!
How many times have we picked in the top 10 and still suck? And how many times have the Chiefs picked in the bottom 10 and they keep winning Super Bowls? A good G.M. will draft good players no matter where they pick. Fire Shoen and Daboll.
I hate this team so much
It's not a big deal. The QBs in this draft are trash.
You are correct. I still feel that if Darnold stays, the Giants will seek a trade for JJ McCarthy. Possibility for a team to want our pick in exchange for a bunch of later ones or wait next year. The Giants will continue it's tradition, selecting a Caucasian QB over 6'2.
@charlesvandenburgh7754 rather a 6 foot 2 white guy than the trash in this draft. Arch is the qb we need to draft in next year's draft. Giants are going nowhere
Can't rule out Drew Allar.
@@charlesvandenburgh7754Actually you can. Allar is going back to school.
I read that and we all know that good players come out of Penn State and the Big Ten Conference. The Giants love tall QBs; the last three averaged a bit over 6'4.
Honestly love you guys but anything to do with this team makes me sick
We as Giants fans deserve better than this garbage. Our 100th anniversary and we field this mess week in, week out. This one win will give Daboll and Shoen something to point to and say look we’re not far off. Meanwhile we’re going to get more of this next year. Pathetic. Mara is clueless letting these jokes run his franchise.
My biggest fear is the Eagles tanking themselves in the last game and letting the Giants win. They have done it before, it is to their benefit to do it again to screw the Giants. I would not play Lock in the game or at least pull him after one quarter along with Nabers and Tracey. Look what Cleveland is doing, with that KTR at QB they were never going to score a touchdown yesterday and Winston is on the bench. Browns are 18.5 point underdogs to the third String Raven team. Take a lesson from the Browns on tanking. Tanking is more of who you put on the field vs the effort on the field of those who are playing. Did you see the energy in the Commanders game last night, do they care what their record was last year?
Ok well you can’t expect to the giants to win every game you don’t always win in life you win some you lose some
The Eagles will give #26 the ball enough to break the record next week, but they will definitely purposely lose the game only to make sure the NYGs don’t get a good QB. Remember how the Eagles were able to draft Smith a few years back? That ownership gives zero flicks if they gotta lose a game just to hurt another NFC opponent if possible, no matter how the optics of it looks. The NYGs have just never been a franchise good at the none game aspects of the league, Mara is more worried about the teams legacy being squeaky clean than winning actual games as it seems at times. He has to have both, all while the rest of the league plays the NYGs laughing all the way to the bank.
Giants f that up already it wont matter, this team is braindead
JJ McCarthy and Bo Nix better than Saunders? ..😂
@she....and this argument is stupid cause Sanders is not a Franchise QB and certainly no a team changer
Cam Ward is nowhere near the level player of top 6 from 2024 Class
Giants will need Philly to play the backups of the backups backups to win! They are a true joke of a team!
Wasn’t enjoyable to any degree for me don’t wait until second to last week to do it
Giants must fire Schoen and Daboll after yesterday or just commit to Schoen and Daboll for two more years but don’t let them mortgage future assets. I don’t care what happens or who is at fault. The incentives are a disaster for a lame duck regime in this upcoming draft.
So lets talk about the ridiculous art of tanking. First of all, a lot players on the team are seeking jobs for next year, wether its the Giants or other teams. Second of all these are paid professionals and as such should have individual pride in their profession. And finally, tanking is against NFL policy and if a player or team is caught, severe ramifications can be administered. As a fan, i was rooting for the Giants and always will. I saw a really dark comment during stream about how sad it was to see fans wanting to see the Giants win. Well they paid good money to root how they choose and for ANYONE to criticize them is so incrediably wrong and quiet frankly evil. Finally, there are no franchise QB's in this draft. I belive if they wete in last years draft they would not be in the top 8 QB's drafted. By the way if the draft were held today, New England would be #1 and they would not be drafting a QB. In this case the Giants still would have a decent chance in picking Ward or Sanders. I prefer a bridge QB for this year at least.
Finally if the NFL would implement a lottery system of some kind, this would REDUCE, the talk of tanking which is so out of bounds. Everyone stop crying, i enjoyed the win and feel it will not hamper the Giants much. I understand that picking lower effects the sum totall of higher draft selections in each round. However, if done correctly like the 2024 draft, the Giants can still be productive.
The giants r going to win next week philly will be resting everyone. This is a legit nightmare
Last years draft we needed a QB DL OL…. Schoen drafted none of those…Fire him now…
Ok dude, they also needed Wr, Rb, Cb, and Ss. The team literally needed everything not just what you listed.
My prediction is we will draft ninth because I think the Eagles will tank to hurt us. Philadelphia is a well-run organization quite unlike the Giants.
This is a colossal failure because if we have to use draft capital which we need for ourselves. If you're going to win do it before you're guaranteed the first pick. If we can't draft a qb keep Joe and Brian on lame duck status. I want the new regime to pick the next qb.
You know the Eagles are going to more than just thank the game, they are going to throw it. You should be looking at how far the fall with 4 wins. Out of the top 10.
The only hope now is Drew Lock keeps growing.
Guys one more thing the Eagles will not sit Barkley the whole game and Barkley is on the revenge tour don’t think Barkley would not love to cook us one more time before he rumbles into the playoffs
So now you doing reverse psychology on yourself by saying we don't know if these quarterbacks going to panned out the point is we need the opportunity to find out we can't keep not finding out
I hate this team. I can't do this anymore.,
Willing to bet anybody $50 that if we pick at 4, Ward or Sanders will be there. Fire Schoen immediately if he trades up.
WELL THAT'S IS THAT WE ARE AT 4 PICK IF WE WIN NEXT WEEK AGAINST THE EAGLES THEN WE WILL PICK AT 9TH IN THE 2025 DRAFT SO MUCH FOR GETTING A NEW FRANCHISE QB NOW WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE GET TIER 2 GUY LIKE MILROE OR BECK OR DART IF NOT THEM THEN A FREE AGENT QB LIKE FIELDS CASINS OR A QB AT AVERAGE NFL LEVEL OH FUCKING JOY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Giants need competent QB play. Plug in a Cam Ward and Nabers can get 1500+ yds easy. We can actually use Hyatt. Wandale can be an elite slot WR. Stop the nonsense. If Daboll can find a prominent DC the Giants can be a playoff team.
Anthonys take on taking qbs randomly is really dumb
The Giants don’t deserve any success. They consistently accept mediocre talent and believe they’re on the rise. When was the last time the Giants were relevant? You let Barkley go, and your last source of excitement was a wide receiver. Your only focus should be selling tickets and winning. Draft a Quarterback with a top pick and fill up on talent in the second round. Stop acting like - Kirk cousins or any of the old quarterback is needed. Go to Young and exciting fresh blood.
I hate this. I hope you guys are right that they get their pick but I have zero faith in this team. I’m sorry but they have proven to us that they can’t do anything right
So in all…Keeping Dabol is only going to put this franchise in a deeper Hell Hole!!! The combination of Schoen & Dabol has been a total mess and keeping them at this point will be an even bigger mess… Mara is Destroying this Franchise…
Would you trade the pick for JJ McCarthy?
Might be a blessing in disguise that we won yesterday. We can always get a bridge qb like kirk for cheap or fields and compete and get a great defensive player like will Johnson or Mason graham. And keep building instead of reaching.
Without said Joe will need to be fired for this to happen cause he will trade the farm for Sheduer it seems like.
No optimism, unfortunately you are an unserious team if you don’t have a good qb. We don’t have one rostered in 2025 lol. People think we will be gifted wrapped a blue chip prospect with a good roster. We aren’t close to having a good roster, it’s worse than gettlemans. It’s borderline XFL.
IT TOOK DABOLL ALL YEAR TO GET A GOOD GAME PLAN IN THIS GUY IS A BIG BIG JOKE