I’ve done too many mock drafts and the drafts I like the best is either trade back for a haul OR taking hunter. We’ve got so many holes so we either need extra picks or a blue chip CB/WR combo.
Basically Anthony followed my exact take I presented previously the only difference was I was happy to move into first for milroe over dart - as Milroe more aligned to fields and therefore scheme fit alignment
I didn’t hear a reason to give you guys the business. I thought it was a thoughtful discussion about the options available. Once the NYG start making decisions then the conflict can start.
I would bring in Fields on top of the new rookie. Cannot afford to waste another year withought a legit qb1. Nabers needs a legit qb1 to keep him motivated along with the other wide receivers.
You can't pass up on talent year after year throwing darts at QB. I would've been ok with Penix last year, because of his upside. Haven't seen tape on these guys this year. I prefer told and quick processing, rather than experience or athleticism.
Just like our o line going away and getting better Boyle looked better because he had a different QB coach. Fields misses reads so him coming here would be detriment to his career. Rogers who doesn't need a QB coach as a bridge options are thin. Unless we get a new QB coach it won't matter who comes.
I agree…. Drew Allar has a strong arm, he’s accurate throwing the ball long and he’s also accurate throwing on the run…He’s smart and he’s 6’5”… if he gets the right coaching, where he learns the in and outs of what n what not to do he can be exactly what the Giants would want in a QB..
I like Fields as a bridge. It’s odd that his name doesn’t come up a lot. Grab Travis Hunter first and hope Milroe or Dart are there for second round. Reading that they are moving up the draft. Daboll wants a mobile QB. Not sure the kid from Penn State fits that bill.
Good point guy's about switching Hunter to WR if he doesn't pan out at CB I hadn't thought about that and if we can't get Cam Ward Jaxson Dart would be my 2nd option at QB
Fields is not a starter, he started because Russ started the year injured. Darnold or baker’s initial one year prove it deal in Tampa would be comparable.
I agree , but the Giants have to start somewhere. They cannot afford to keep throwing away years years withouht an qb1 at an position of need. The team will not be motivated without one. It's just a trial situation until the potential rookie qb is ready. Hopefully the Giants dumb gm is thinking that way.
...also, get Davis Webb from Denver, make him the Offensive Coordinator when you fire Mike Kafka. Davis and Wilson have worked together and he knows how to bring the best out of Wilson.
My preference would be - If Ward's not available then Hunter, Graham, Johnson or trade down. Try and Winston or Fields in FA. Target Milroe late 1st or early 2nd and if he's not the guy see if he can Taysum Hill and look towards what looks to be much stronger 2025/2026 QB class.
I know we really want a QB but Im more excited about some of these players down the board honestly. Nick Singleton, Mike Green, Tyler Booker, and Ersery. Wish we had more picks lol 😅
Funny thing about the Sanders thing also is that when the Raiders had the 1st pick Deion said to AP "Draft my boys" and the narrative was he wanted Shedeur to go to the Raiders. As soon as the Raiders won and fell back in the draft and the Giants had the 1st pick Shedeur plays catch with Nabers and wears a pair of Giants cleets. Sanders then wanted to be a Giant Now the Titans have the #1 pick and the Sanders camp responds to the Titans firing their GM. Deion more than anything wants Shedeur to be the 1st pick in the draft no matter who has that pick.
Can Hunter tackle NFC East receivers like AJ Brown or Will Johnson who's heavier / taller better scheme fit? We need 2 stout Defensive tackles and a big time physical RG - Center. Sign Ward, Jeremy Chinn or Huafanga in free agency
I was one of the people that wanted a qb for years. I would say force the qb. But this year is the first time I don’t want a qb. We are going to have a disaster year and everyone will be fired with the hardest schedule in the NFL. Next year we picking top 5 anyways with a regime.
He only takes 1 roster spot. We will have to build more depth at whatever position he primarily plays. Probably CB1, and package WR plays every now and then.
I don't think you can teach processing speed. At least the QBs that Dabol's coached so far with the Giants other than the emergency guy that I can't remember his name. From what I understand is Fields processes the field to slow. No interest.
Listen falles,,, we will be back in this place for the next two year's in the draft picks,,,we done,,,this year and next year,!!!! Y'all should have be fired,, you two and the owner,,, and thank you for y'all giving away our family and team,,,so fuk whatever y'all are talking about,,,we are done,,,so sad G-MEN,!!!!
Will Johnson is the best CB in this draft class. 0 TDs allowed in the last 2 years. Only 2 TDs allowed in his 3 year career. While collecting 9 Ints. Hunter allowed 6 TDs in the last 2 seasons and also had 9 INTs although Hunter plays in more games.
One more thing - is sanders is potentially not top 10 y would Cleveland reach when they are stuck with deshaun - big chance they take hunter rather than sanders or trade back
Russell Wilson or Justin Fields would be my picks, those 2 have played in the elements. At 3, I would either trade down add draft capital & pick Kenneth Grant. Grant is better than Mason Graham. Or pick Abdul Carter, Will Johnson, Starks, or Hunter at 3. But we really need depth, don’t force the qb draft pick. Cause remember, Schoen & Daboll are on the hot seat. A vet qb will have a higher chance of helping Daboll & Schoen keep their jobs than a rookie qb, which we would potentially repeating what the Bears did to Justin Fields.
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I know you guys are all cam ward fans every podcaster is pushing cam ward .. but every mock draft I seen got cam ward going to titans and sheduer sanders going to giants .. and guess what I think it falls perfectly cause everybody gonna be gassing up cam ward and sleeping on sanders and mark my words .. cam ward will be a middle of pack qb and sheduer will be a top 7 qb in their primes .. sheduer is dak and joe burrow mixed together in one.. you heard it here first .. let everyone sleep and gas cam ward im loving it.. send him right to Tennessee and give us shedeur
The BEST thing the Giants can do for QB is to sign Justin Fields to a 1yr for 15mil deal, use #3 pick for BPA for player of need and then trade a third round pick for JJ McCarthy (if Cam WARD) is not available.
@juanventura5692 JJ would be QB1 in this draft. The injury although bad is no different to when DJ came back from his sort of injury. JJ is very young and so is likely to be able to fully recover and strengthen, it's worth the gamble and then can always take a QB in 2026 draft which might be a stronger class
@@JackWhitman-u1p I agree and i wanted JJ last year. I saw what others don't see in the guy. But rather turn the page. The Vikings ain't trading him either. They're not a stupid organization like the Giants.
@juanventura5692 You'd be surprised, I think if they invest in Darnold then they might not keep JJ. A third rounder and a 6th from next year could tempt them. It's always worth the attempt. If we can't take JJ, I'd draft dart in the mid rounds (2nd/3rd). Draft Allure or Nussmeier in 2026 to compete with Dart.
@@JackWhitman-u1pso what Trubisky was qb1 coming out of college over mahomes you never know how a player going to turn out but I’m not trading a first round pick for a unproven player coming off a season ending knee injury maybe a second rounder
Love listening to you guys but I gotta keep it a buck with yall rn. I think you guys have been way over valuing Drew Allar. He played a solid game against Boise and now people are glazing. Also, played terrible, terrible football last night If Cam isn’t there take Trav or trade back don’t over complicate it. Just my opinion…
Why would you sacrifice draft picks when we have so many needs and holes why trade up from 35 to 32? Take hunter at 3 and whatever qb is there in the 2nd round. You can't throw away capital to move up a couple spots
Sanders is most definitely a better prospect than Dart, but I like Dart, but I also think the draft grade on Sanders is bs, both Ward and Sanders numbers are better than JJ's, JJ benefited from his team being great that year, but I also like him
Just watch the play that lost the PS game, pretty awful. Lacked game awareness, bag panic throw, ew, yeah, not for me. The most important thing I want in a QB is decision making. If they were losing at the time, yeah, take a shot of it's 3rd or 4th down. But I'm a tie game? Don't want to today the kid, but that was awful.
Damn prisoner of the moment comment sounds like this the first time you actually watched the kid play ……how did Sanders look in his last game not too great either but I don’t see you saying he is awful ….idk how any of these will develop but I am not making a decision off a bad game
@@jeffreyworthy5384people base everything off the most recent game and they take that game and use it as proof of an entire career. That was Allar’s worst game of his career last night. That’s what people saw most recently so that’s what they think. Most of these people watched Allar for the first time last night.
@jeffreyworthy5384 I haven't watched any film on any of the QBs yet. That was the first I saw the PS kid, and it was real real real concerning. Stay in school.
I think best player available cause as yousins have said were thin so I think build a squad first before drafting a qb cause the qb could flop throwing in with absolute fuck all players we have
Qb Qb Qb, yes we have holes in alot of places BUT the one position that we’ve totally ignored the most is QB. Wr addressed multiple times, Oline addressed multiple times, Qb addressed ZERO times in 6 years. Get a qb or be butt cheeks once again for another season.
Justin Fields is not a bridge QB. A bridge QB is a veteran with experience that can help a younger guy. Fields needs to focus on developing himself rather than helping a young guy. If you are signing Fields, you have to sign a real bridge and not draft a QB. Which might be good! Just don't expect a QB in the draft if we sign Fields.
Hilarious take on draft analysts...you mean the same people who insisted Maye was QB1 or that Carson Beck was QB1...I am a bit older and watched Eli at Ole Miss and the talent, hype, toughness and big game ability are very very similar between Eli and Shedeur...
Do not draft Sanders he has a noodle arm and no upside. Cam Ward has a cannon and has alot of upside. I also see a lot of the Patrick Mahomes like ability to improvise when plays break down. I would even prefer Milroe over Sanders. Milroe has multiple elite traits and tremendous upside to go with the strongest arm in the draft. Now if Sanders is drafted I wont like it but I will still root for him.
I have to disagree with you on that sanders definitely has upside he has about the same stats as ward playing behind one of the worst maybe the worst oline in college he be sacked like 85 times in 2 years imagine if he plays behind a good offensive line and he already showed that he can be consistently good with a line which no other quarterback has shown and most of the quarterbacks that win championships don’t be having the strongest arm
@tonecarter5663 Sanders has no athleticism. He has a tendency to hold the ball too long. He also played a very soft schedule. While throwing to one of the best WR in college football last year. In a very QB friendly system. The same system that had Daniel Jones top 3K yards & 24 TDs in 2019.
To me Justin Fields is the far more athletic Drew lock. Pass attempts will be off target more times than not and then you'll have a game like Lock did against the colts out of nowhere. That's Justin Fields
Like if Fields costs 10 a year and a player like Marcus Mariota costs 7 a year... I'll take Mariota. To me you're getting the same results from both players. In terms of record/production.
Like if Fields cost is 10 a year and Mariota costs 7 a year... give me Mariota. To me you're getting the same results record wise/production from both players.
Cousins is likely getting cut, and he's this year's Wilson where he's going to cost his new team just over a million a year - thats nothing. If he becomes available and you can convince him to cone, you do it - that's just good business
And yeah..... just my I am sure unpopular opinion but Ward and Sanders are considered top 3 only due to the virtue as they are QBs.... period. Yes QB is the most important position.... but last year.... neither of these guys would have went in the first and maybe not the 2nd round. Again.... as I noted below.... Giants blew it last year in not doing whatever it took to get a quality QB in an awesome QB draft. If the Vikings will..... give them #3 for JJ.
Passing on McCarthy at 6 was simple McCarthy was the #4 QB while another huge weakness on this team was WR. Nabers was the #1 WR in the draft to pass on Nabers for the #4 QB made no sense. No WR in this draft is even close to Nabers ability. While Cam Ward and Sanders even by Mel Kipper would be close to the McCarthy/Penix level. So your choice was getting an much better WR with a QB that maybe slightly below the guy you could have had. Or you could get a slightly higher graded QB and then get a much lower grade WR. In that choice because of the dropoff in the WR class being greater than the dropoff between McCarthy Cam and Shedeur you take the WR 1st.
You guys are bugging. Jj Mccarthy threw 10 times a game. In what WORLD would he be QB 1??? Based off of what??? Bias?? You guys are talking yallselves out of good QBs. What metric would Jj be #1
Don’t think the Giants will be worried about the negative press. They have to deal with the New York media & dare I say Podcasters like yourselves. So Deon going to the media. Doesn’t really make that much of a difference.
Nah bro you sold me on fields until you mentioned the cost. That cost doesn’t make sense sorry I rather do like Washington and draft 2 QBs instead of tie up that much money.
Why do you think Daball can make Fields a top QB? Sure he had success in college and with Bills but that's all he had to focus on. As head coach he is beyond his capacity to expand his brain. Not all QB and OC can be head coaches- see Josh McDaniels. Perhaps Giants can get JM as OC and QB coach and let Daball TRY to be Head Coach. Funny how he managaed Danny Dimes first year and then couldn't make him better! Can't make rounds fit into squares and expect things to flow smoothly.
Im going to take a wild bet on what will happen . With the # 3 pick the MINNESOTA VIKINGS SELECT TRAVIS HUNTER. THE giants get JJ mcartyy and the vikings 3rd round pick. Not saying its what i want. This assumes ward goes #1 or #2. I may not have the trade value correct maybe we would want more than JJ and a 3rd. Thoughts ? ( note I realize Travis Hunter Might not be there at 3 . the point is Im betting we want JJ if we cant get WARD, and we DO TRADE FOR HIM ). And drew Allar sucked nut sack last night. don't want. not this year. And Justin fields, theres a reason he is a back-up journeyman. I Wouldn't mind him as a bridge for the right price.....give him a shot just not super high or low on him.
Sanders or Ward at three could condemn this team the way Jones did…need to recognize the problem and be creative in solving it or be patient…recognizing the problem is the most important and hopefully we have…getting Jones more help every draft was an example of no one recognizing the problem…I’ve watched both Sanders and Ward play and I’m not impressed…watching Steve Young at BYU or Favre at Southern Miss I saw great qb play…these two guys are not that!
Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter or Mason Graham either one will start and make an impact as rookies
I’ve done too many mock drafts and the drafts I like the best is either trade back for a haul OR taking hunter. We’ve got so many holes so we either need extra picks or a blue chip CB/WR combo.
I watch these guys. As a habit I’m hitting that like.
We just entered the only time of the year that being a giants fan is bearable.
We can at least enjoy the next few months of speculation, lol
I 'm glad we can finally stop talking about Drew Allar now. Been saying he's a slower DJ for weeks and we got to see that against ND.
Agreed he should have never been an option. You can tell People aren't watching these games.
Basically Anthony followed my exact take I presented previously the only difference was I was happy to move into first for milroe over dart - as Milroe more aligned to fields and therefore scheme fit alignment
I agree with you, Justin Fields and Milroe I. 2nd round
People still havent learned from jayden and Caleb's nobody knows what these guys are going be. Shedeur and Cam literally identical numbers
Giants should take Hunter if hes available at 3
I didn’t hear a reason to give you guys the business. I thought it was a thoughtful discussion about the options available. Once the NYG start making decisions then the conflict can start.
I never thought me and Alex would agree on something great take bro
A Bridge QB is Mandatory
If we take a qb in second it allows us to add more weapons to the team.
Fields could run Daboll’s RPO’s Fields has a positive history with Dabes too
Could get 6-7 wins
I would bring in Fields on top of the new rookie. Cannot afford to waste another year withought a legit qb1. Nabers needs a legit qb1 to keep him motivated along with the other wide receivers.
Giants should trade the 3rd pick for a new head coach and general manager 😂
Yes
You can't pass up on talent year after year throwing darts at QB. I would've been ok with Penix last year, because of his upside. Haven't seen tape on these guys this year. I prefer told and quick processing, rather than experience or athleticism.
Well Allar isn’t coming out in this year’s draft because he had a bad game last night.
I think getting Fields and picking bpa at 3 and pick a qb in second round unless Cam is available.
Just like our o line going away and getting better Boyle looked better because he had a different QB coach. Fields misses reads so him coming here would be detriment to his career. Rogers who doesn't need a QB coach as a bridge options are thin. Unless we get a new QB coach it won't matter who comes.
Love you guys. How about a shoutout to your UK based Giants fans 🤙
Take Travis Hunter and then make trade if they can't get qb later. He would be a super trade chip.
Forcing a QB is creating another Daniel Jones
I agree…. Drew Allar has a strong arm, he’s accurate throwing the ball long and he’s also accurate throwing on the run…He’s smart and he’s 6’5”… if he gets the right coaching, where he learns the in and outs of what n what not to do he can be exactly what the Giants would want in a QB..
I like Fields as a bridge. It’s odd that his name doesn’t come up a lot. Grab Travis Hunter first and hope Milroe or Dart are there for second round. Reading that they are moving up the draft. Daboll wants a mobile QB. Not sure the kid from Penn State fits that bill.
Due to Deshaun injury. The Giants chances of get Cam or Sanders are done. Unless they trade up.
I said this last year and people thought I was crazy. He seems to have the traits that our head coach likes
Good point guy's about switching Hunter to WR if he doesn't pan out at CB I hadn't thought about that and if we can't get Cam Ward Jaxson Dart would be my 2nd option at QB
Third… awesome vid!
If a QB they love isn’t there, I believe they will trade back. It’s the best formula to upgrade the roster.
I could say a lot but I’ll make it short; Agree 💯 with Anthony re: Fields
Alex you have a great Point If Hunter is There at 3 Take him and Trade back up but if Saunders is there at 3 take him and Trade
Fields is not a starter, he started because Russ started the year injured. Darnold or baker’s initial one year prove it deal in Tampa would be comparable.
I agree , but the Giants have to start somewhere. They cannot afford to keep throwing away years years withouht an qb1 at an position of need. The team will not be motivated without one. It's just a trial situation until the potential rookie qb is ready. Hopefully the Giants dumb gm is thinking that way.
...also, get Davis Webb from Denver, make him the Offensive Coordinator when you fire Mike Kafka. Davis and Wilson have worked together and he knows how to bring the best out of Wilson.
I want Travis hunter man
My preference would be - If Ward's not available then Hunter, Graham, Johnson or trade down. Try and Winston or Fields in FA. Target Milroe late 1st or early 2nd and if he's not the guy see if he can Taysum Hill and look towards what looks to be much stronger 2025/2026 QB class.
I know we really want a QB but Im more excited about some of these players down the board honestly. Nick Singleton, Mike Green, Tyler Booker, and Ersery. Wish we had more picks lol 😅
Funny thing about the Sanders thing also is that when the Raiders had the 1st pick Deion said to AP "Draft my boys" and the narrative was he wanted Shedeur to go to the Raiders. As soon as the Raiders won and fell back in the draft and the Giants had the 1st pick Shedeur plays catch with Nabers and wears a pair of Giants cleets. Sanders then wanted to be a Giant Now the Titans have the #1 pick and the Sanders camp responds to the Titans firing their GM. Deion more than anything wants Shedeur to be the 1st pick in the draft no matter who has that pick.
Would you offer a first in 2026 for JJ, and try to get hunter and build the team this year?
Ditto love Fields
Can Hunter tackle NFC East receivers like AJ Brown or Will Johnson who's heavier / taller better scheme fit? We need 2 stout Defensive tackles and a big time physical RG - Center. Sign Ward, Jeremy Chinn or Huafanga in free agency
I was one of the people that wanted a qb for years. I would say force the qb. But this year is the first time I don’t want a qb. We are going to have a disaster year and everyone will be fired with the hardest schedule in the NFL. Next year we picking top 5 anyways with a regime.
We should have picked our QB last year. Quarterback whisperer?
Only problem with drafting Travis Hunter is, if he plays both Offensive & Defense and gets hurt, you lose a player at TWO positions,
He won’t you just can’t in the nfl
Guys he helps too much, if we lose him it hurts too much. That's just silly
We need him on the defensive side of the ball
He only takes 1 roster spot. We will have to build more depth at whatever position he primarily plays. Probably CB1, and package WR plays every now and then.
I don't think you can teach processing speed. At least the QBs that Dabol's coached so far with the Giants other than the emergency guy that I can't remember his name. From what I understand is Fields processes the field to slow. No interest.
Yesss Justin Fields is Definitely a Great Selection and That Would Be Smart Pick Up And Don’t Go picking Injured Prone Player
I Agree With Alex we are on the same page
I Don’t Want Aller Dart is Better than him
Fields completion % has gone up every year
Listen falles,,, we will be back in this place for the next two year's in the draft picks,,,we done,,,this year and next year,!!!! Y'all should have be fired,, you two and the owner,,, and thank you for y'all giving away our family and team,,,so fuk whatever y'all are talking about,,,we are done,,,so sad G-MEN,!!!!
Will Johnson is the best CB in this draft class. 0 TDs allowed in the last 2 years. Only 2 TDs allowed in his 3 year career. While collecting 9 Ints. Hunter allowed 6 TDs in the last 2 seasons and also had 9 INTs although Hunter plays in more games.
Agree completely. I’d take Will over Travis at pick 3 all day!
Talking down on sanders and glazing allard is nasty work Alex
Allar is just too young, needs to go back one more year - but his physical traits are better than Sanders
“Physical traits” while ignoring your eyes/games is how the Giants ended up with Daniel Jones.
Mason Graham, a QB in the 2nd Rd and BPA from the 3rd round on...
One more thing - is sanders is potentially not top 10 y would Cleveland reach when they are stuck with deshaun - big chance they take hunter rather than sanders or trade back
Justin fields is great free agency pick
Russell Wilson or Justin Fields would be my picks, those 2 have played in the elements. At 3, I would either trade down add draft capital & pick Kenneth Grant. Grant is better than Mason Graham. Or pick Abdul Carter, Will Johnson, Starks, or Hunter at 3. But we really need depth, don’t force the qb draft pick. Cause remember, Schoen & Daboll are on the hot seat. A vet qb will have a higher chance of helping Daboll & Schoen keep their jobs than a rookie qb, which we would potentially repeating what the Bears did to Justin Fields.
Good episode. Not that negative...
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The obvious move is to take Travis Hunter and then figure out the Qb position in free agency then draft Arch
Your acting like we get to control when we draft
Anthony for GM !!!!! You way smarter than Joe Loser 😅 We need Justin fields and draft a Qb
Anthony you hit it on the head with Justin fields
I'm with Alex when it comes to Sanders I want no part of that side show
I know you guys are all cam ward fans every podcaster is pushing cam ward .. but every mock draft I seen got cam ward going to titans and sheduer sanders going to giants .. and guess what I think it falls perfectly cause everybody gonna be gassing up cam ward and sleeping on sanders and mark my words .. cam ward will be a middle of pack qb and sheduer will be a top 7 qb in their primes .. sheduer is dak and joe burrow mixed together in one.. you heard it here first .. let everyone sleep and gas cam ward im loving it.. send him right to Tennessee and give us shedeur
Salute👊🏾
The BEST thing the Giants can do for QB is to sign Justin Fields to a 1yr for 15mil deal, use #3 pick for BPA for player of need and then trade a third round pick for JJ McCarthy (if Cam WARD) is not available.
I would not take jj at this stage after an injury. Rather sign Justin Fields and trade back into the 1st to select Dart. Double up on the position.
@juanventura5692 JJ would be QB1 in this draft. The injury although bad is no different to when DJ came back from his sort of injury. JJ is very young and so is likely to be able to fully recover and strengthen, it's worth the gamble and then can always take a QB in 2026 draft which might be a stronger class
@@JackWhitman-u1p I agree and i wanted JJ last year. I saw what others don't see in the guy. But rather turn the page. The Vikings ain't trading him either. They're not a stupid organization like the Giants.
@juanventura5692 You'd be surprised, I think if they invest in Darnold then they might not keep JJ. A third rounder and a 6th from next year could tempt them. It's always worth the attempt. If we can't take JJ, I'd draft dart in the mid rounds (2nd/3rd). Draft Allure or Nussmeier in 2026 to compete with Dart.
@@JackWhitman-u1pso what Trubisky was qb1 coming out of college over mahomes you never know how a player going to turn out but I’m not trading a first round pick for a unproven player coming off a season ending knee injury maybe a second rounder
Love listening to you guys but I gotta keep it a buck with yall rn. I think you guys have been way over valuing Drew Allar. He played a solid game against Boise and now people are glazing.
Also, played terrible, terrible football last night
If Cam isn’t there take Trav or trade back don’t over complicate it. Just my opinion…
You’re right, Ward was always our guy tho
Why would you sacrifice draft picks when we have so many needs and holes why trade up from 35 to 32? Take hunter at 3 and whatever qb is there in the 2nd round. You can't throw away capital to move up a couple spots
Sanders is most definitely a better prospect than Dart, but I like Dart, but I also think the draft grade on Sanders is bs, both Ward and Sanders numbers are better than JJ's, JJ benefited from his team being great that year, but I also like him
Just watch the play that lost the PS game, pretty awful. Lacked game awareness, bag panic throw, ew, yeah, not for me. The most important thing I want in a QB is decision making. If they were losing at the time, yeah, take a shot of it's 3rd or 4th down. But I'm a tie game? Don't want to today the kid, but that was awful.
Damn prisoner of the moment comment sounds like this the first time you actually watched the kid play ……how did Sanders look in his last game not too great either but I don’t see you saying he is awful ….idk how any of these will develop but I am not making a decision off a bad game
@@jeffreyworthy5384people base everything off the most recent game and they take that game and use it as proof of an entire career. That was Allar’s worst game of his career last night. That’s what people saw most recently so that’s what they think. Most of these people watched Allar for the first time last night.
@jeffreyworthy5384 I haven't watched any film on any of the QBs yet. That was the first I saw the PS kid, and it was real real real concerning. Stay in school.
I think best player available cause as yousins have said were thin so I think build a squad first before drafting a qb cause the qb could flop throwing in with absolute fuck all players we have
Bro he is viewed as a backup cuz he is a backup the only reason he started was because Wilson was hurt not giving Justin Fields 20 million a year
Take Hunter trade for joe Milton
Qb Qb Qb, yes we have holes in alot of places BUT the one position that we’ve totally ignored the most is QB. Wr addressed multiple times, Oline addressed multiple times, Qb addressed ZERO times in 6 years. Get a qb or be butt cheeks once again for another season.
Fields has come out and said he wants to stay in Pittsburgh
Hey Anthony, you just stole my proposal, except insert Zach Wilson instead of Fields.
Zach Wilson is 🗑
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Mason Graham or trade back.. I wouldn't draft Hunter because we haven't proven that we can develop CB's
Justin Fields is not a bridge QB. A bridge QB is a veteran with experience that can help a younger guy. Fields needs to focus on developing himself rather than helping a young guy. If you are signing Fields, you have to sign a real bridge and not draft a QB. Which might be good! Just don't expect a QB in the draft if we sign Fields.
Ive been sayin sanders is too locked into daddy for weeks now
Hilarious take on draft analysts...you mean the same people who insisted Maye was QB1 or that Carson Beck was QB1...I am a bit older and watched Eli at Ole Miss and the talent, hype, toughness and big game ability are very very similar between Eli and Shedeur...
Do not draft Sanders he has a noodle arm and no upside. Cam Ward has a cannon and has alot of upside. I also see a lot of the Patrick Mahomes like ability to improvise when plays break down. I would even prefer Milroe over Sanders. Milroe has multiple elite traits and tremendous upside to go with the strongest arm in the draft.
Now if Sanders is drafted I wont like it but I will still root for him.
I have to disagree with you on that sanders definitely has upside he has about the same stats as ward playing behind one of the worst maybe the worst oline in college he be sacked like 85 times in 2 years imagine if he plays behind a good offensive line and he already showed that he can be consistently good with a line which no other quarterback has shown and most of the quarterbacks that win championships don’t be having the strongest arm
@tonecarter5663 Sanders has no athleticism. He has a tendency to hold the ball too long. He also played a very soft schedule. While throwing to one of the best WR in college football last year. In a very QB friendly system. The same system that had Daniel Jones top 3K yards & 24 TDs in 2019.
To me Justin Fields is the far more athletic Drew lock. Pass attempts will be off target more times than not and then you'll have a game like Lock did against the colts out of nowhere. That's Justin Fields
Like if Fields costs 10 a year and a player like Marcus Mariota costs 7 a year... I'll take Mariota. To me you're getting the same results from both players. In terms of record/production.
Like if Fields cost is 10 a year and Mariota costs 7 a year... give me Mariota. To me you're getting the same results record wise/production from both players.
The Giants better not pick the 3rd QB, with the 3rd pick. Like trading back up into the 1st to get the 5th year for the QB.
Allar needs another year in college in my opinion. He got owned by ND.
What’s y’all think about Zach Wilson and Jaxson Dart 🎯
Cousins is likely getting cut, and he's this year's Wilson where he's going to cost his new team just over a million a year - thats nothing. If he becomes available and you can convince him to cone, you do it - that's just good business
When i suggested Fields, you dismissed it.
And yeah..... just my I am sure unpopular opinion but Ward and Sanders are considered top 3 only due to the virtue as they are QBs.... period. Yes QB is the most important position.... but last year.... neither of these guys would have went in the first and maybe not the 2nd round.
Again.... as I noted below.... Giants blew it last year in not doing whatever it took to get a quality QB in an awesome QB draft. If the Vikings will..... give them #3 for JJ.
Passing on McCarthy at 6 was simple McCarthy was the #4 QB while another huge weakness on this team was WR. Nabers was the #1 WR in the draft to pass on Nabers for the #4 QB made no sense. No WR in this draft is even close to Nabers ability. While Cam Ward and Sanders even by Mel Kipper would be close to the McCarthy/Penix level. So your choice was getting an much better WR with a QB that maybe slightly below the guy you could have had. Or you could get a slightly higher graded QB and then get a much lower grade WR. In that choice because of the dropoff in the WR class being greater than the dropoff between McCarthy Cam and Shedeur you take the WR 1st.
No way no more experimental quarterbacks stop with these guys that fly up the draft board every year Giants, please now
You would think justin fields wasnt absolute trash if you had only heard this podcast and never seen him play. Unfortunately ive seen him play
You guys are bugging. Jj Mccarthy threw 10 times a game. In what WORLD would he be QB 1??? Based off of what??? Bias?? You guys are talking yallselves out of good QBs. What metric would Jj be #1
Go look at Josh Allen's stats the year he graduated lol college stats mean legit ZERO when it comes to NFL projections
Now college stats mean nothing, so I guess it’s pointless of having draft scouts. 😂😂😂
@firesidegiants You can't use an outlier as an example. 1 out of thousands does not make a good case point. Lol.
Don’t think the Giants will be worried about the negative press. They have to deal with the New York media & dare I say Podcasters like yourselves. So Deon going to the media. Doesn’t really make that much of a difference.
Nah bro you sold me on fields until you mentioned the cost. That cost doesn’t make sense sorry I rather do like Washington and draft 2 QBs instead of tie up that much money.
Gimme Arron Rodgers and then if it doesn't work tank for Manning
Arch Manning is allowed to pick which team drafts him, right? New rules
Drew Allen is terrible by the way 😂
Why do you think Daball can make Fields a top QB? Sure he had success in college and with Bills but that's all he had to focus on. As head coach he is beyond his capacity to expand his brain. Not all QB and OC can be head coaches- see Josh McDaniels. Perhaps Giants can get JM as OC and QB coach and let Daball TRY to be Head Coach.
Funny how he managaed Danny Dimes first year and then couldn't make him better! Can't make rounds fit into squares and expect things to flow smoothly.
Well the Aller idea was good in theory but aged like warm milk
Im going to take a wild bet on what will happen .
With the # 3 pick the MINNESOTA VIKINGS SELECT TRAVIS HUNTER.
THE giants get JJ mcartyy and the vikings 3rd round pick.
Not saying its what i want. This assumes ward goes #1 or #2. I may not have the trade value correct maybe we would want more than JJ and a 3rd.
Thoughts ?
( note I realize Travis Hunter Might not be there at 3 . the point is Im betting we want JJ if we cant get WARD, and we DO TRADE FOR HIM ).
And drew Allar sucked nut sack last night. don't want. not this year. And Justin fields, theres a reason he is a back-up journeyman. I Wouldn't mind him as a bridge for the right price.....give him a shot just not super high or low on him.
Sanders or Ward at three could condemn this team the way Jones did…need to recognize the problem and be creative in solving it or be patient…recognizing the problem is the most important and hopefully we have…getting Jones more help every draft was an example of no one recognizing the problem…I’ve watched both Sanders and Ward play and I’m not impressed…watching Steve Young at BYU or Favre at Southern Miss I saw great qb play…these two guys are not that!
Hunter 3, dart second round, then some defensive pieces and o line
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These two guys talk a lot and end of saying nothing more than what every Giants football fan already knows.
Fields is going to stay with the Steelers unfortunately, unless Russel Wilson has a great playoffs.
JOHN MYRA DON’T LIKE NEITHER CAM WARD OR SCHEDEUR