Oh man, seeing her feel responsible and cry like that, i kind of feel her. It's so stressful to the point you just blame yourself for others words, I hope this won't happen again man ty for the clip
lets see those chat who comment jett bottom fragging play the game and see if they can hold their skills according to their words lol. theres always bad times in 5-man team games like this, blaming it on one player is petty
many people like this yeah, Like tsumugi said he still giving information and entrying as a good duelist to search information, I hate those ppl that think getting a lot of kills mean they really good ,when they are mostly of the time just baiting the whole team to get a kill not playing their role . Especially a duelist that doesn't want to entry and playing the back, like bro...that a sentinel job, if ur aim is good why the heck u not entrying. overall that jett in the vid is playing his role well, he probably just have a bad day for the aim that time or the enemy just better.
@@shirigayamahiro6273 Exactly this, people who talk shit about entry fraggers being bottom are never first in site lol, good players never talk about KD because they know better
Kokage is such a precious and vulnerable person. How could you be so mean? That Jett shouldn't have said that and the comments shouldn't have badmouthed him. I feel so sorry for her :< she didn't deserve that. The replies are crazy man. Whether or not Jett was badmouthing her or not. The viewers and him shouldn't have made her feel that way. But yknow it do be like that on the internet 😪
It's that one unfortunate moment when public party goes wrong. Kokage already scold her viewers so no need for him to double down acting like that. I understand he didn't direct it to Kokage, but it just added unnecessary pressure for her.
@@kanzaki2672 because streamers feel they "have to" be responsible for what their viewers do. That's why she also gets a little mentally affected when Jett is upset.
Honestly, kokage should not have picked up the comments about bottom fragging, during the incident. It is always better to hve a short PSA after when everyone is cooled down. But its she's only been doing this streaming thing for a few months, she probably could use an advice or two from her senpais sonce they have been dealing with shitty people since pretty much debut.
Yes Im agreeing with your point but i don’t think her action is wrong or “should not have picked up the comments-”. Calling out weird trolls is fine no matter the time since chat could get out of pocket/snowball even further. She could just ban weird chatters for the warning + brace herself if the person who’s getting flamed is somehow watching since its not her fault at all. More like series of unfortunate build ups than her being in the wrong. I don’t stream myself but i have seen chat turning into shitshow when the streamer is not calling them out.
I'm really curious what happens in the live chat when Jett is upset, and when Kokage cries... I really feel sorry for her, she just wanted to calm down the live chat who said Jett played badly
Those that are saying that and blaming teammates are the ones hard stuck themselves only looking at KDA instead of how impactful and helpful each plays are
this makes me so sad ngl mostly cuz i just got off a rank game and i had a teammate that was just an asshole just cuz they were top frag, they werent bragging abt being top frag but was just picking fights, calling everyone a baiter and backseating i defended someone cuz they backseated them and i got hated too i did fight back at the end since i couldnt take it anymore but moments like that makes players just anxious and perform less better like kills dont matter as long as ur doing ur job and helping how u can
Jesus christ it happened to the worst person. I felt so bad for her. I feel like anyone else would've told the comments to fuck off and muted the guy when he began chirping.
Her listener are pretty much normies and the core of the problem for blaming bot-frag at the time. Bruh they haven't even change side, they're still on defense. Had she not giving a f**k to those stupid comment, the damage can be avoided or reduced if that jett start raging. Sadly enough normies and non-japanese always to be found talk to each other in her live chat, they are scattering around. Just go to forum or discord server and talk there lol. It reducing potential of her reading stupid or unintentional comment that actually harsh. I'm not justifying what jett do tho, he got no anger control and even more he's generalize and judging vtuber despite he just know about her.
What does people being rude have to do with being Japanese or not? A lot of those comments come from japanese commenters, there are a lot of nice english speaking chatters in her chat if you ever paid attention. Don’t blame it on nationality or gatekeep chat, rude is rude and has nothing to do with what language they speak.
@@greenhat7618 read it again I said "talk to each other" which is generally irrelevant to the stream. And as you said, rude is rude, it can be found in either language they speaks so I bring it up as additional. If you read live-chat archive on stream mentioned in this clip, theres also bad english chats like "her voice like porn actress" or smth. I believe I did not bring something irrelevant in my comment, but if you thing I am, then sorry for that.
@@rorororo9-i2i most of the discussions I’ve noticed in english are stream related, I can’t say for japanese as i’ve just started learning and can’t read elaborate sentences yet. And there will always be trolls, like the guy you mentioned I remember vividly as I was in chat when it happened, he also spammed a bunch of other stuff and when I see those people it’s an instant block and report, but she does need more mods as there really don’t seem to be any in chat. Most of your points I actually agree with, it’s just that in the non-japanese sentence, maybe you don’t mean it that way as english don’t seem to be your native language, but the phrasing makes it sound like you’re saying english speakers should go somewhere else and not talk in her chat.
This is a beginner streamer mistake from kokage, she shouldn't read those comments, hope she learn to not read those types of comment anymore, or just laughed it off. Doesn't mean i normalize bad comments though
Im surprised someone this vulnerable can reach imo :( at this point its gonna be sooner than later that she realize, ranked streaming should be 5 stack, unless she learn how to ignore these hateful comments
Both Jett and the chat went too far. But it's the internet people can be mean without consequenses, she'll have to get used to that as a streamer unfortunately.
before he got muted by Kokage, he said 「ってぶいちゅばじゃないかい」i think it would be more precise to translate it like "oh no wonder, you're a vtuber". he did not saying a "bad" word but the sentence itself pretty often used to demeaning vtubers
@@rorororo9-i2i I'm not fluent in japanese, but I think Jett said the viewers are「バチャ豚」in which case I understand why Kokage got upset and the chat reaction after Jett said that, it is a pretty offensive word and might get you banned in chat if you type that in streams
@@helloo1226 Oh so the Jett is not picking a fight with Kokage but instead picking a fight with Kokage's chat & Kokage got caught in the crossfire & didn't like it ngl the subtitles are iffy at best, making it a bit misleading with that's going on regardless of who is in the wrong here
thats why i, myself, consider the forbidden 2ch(A very deep strucutured Japanese forum) is even worse than 4chan, 4chan are A-word style but 2ch are some demons in disguise( The Kyoani incident was borned within the 2ch users)
VSPO members should *NEVER* encounters any scenarios that ninjisanjiers nor earlier Vtuber corps had seen. Children are too pure and too real to face these stuffs. Espeically Kokage who had been in bad peer groups. With this wound pinching crisis, I couldn't bare to imagine how a person's heart would wither. Negative emotions in someone's biggest hobbies are devastating, since brave groups (The infamous Game Club Project curpit) is still sharing some lessons after some histories, i would place my bets to say the manager would give her the best comfort needed, and hope to see this whole matter in a positive progression.
Both chat and Jett are at fault for badmouthing. Every game there will be a bot frags in a team, so what? He is doing his job as Jett creating space, killing is everyone's job.
Oh man, seeing her feel responsible and cry like that, i kind of feel her. It's so stressful to the point you just blame yourself for others words, I hope this won't happen again man
ty for the clip
lets see those chat who comment jett bottom fragging play the game and see if they can hold their skills according to their words lol. theres always bad times in 5-man team games like this, blaming it on one player is petty
many people like this yeah,
Like tsumugi said he still giving information and entrying as a good duelist to search information,
I hate those ppl that think getting a lot of kills mean they really good ,when they are mostly of the time just baiting the whole team to get a kill not playing their role . Especially a duelist that doesn't want to entry and playing the back, like bro...that a sentinel job, if ur aim is good why the heck u not entrying.
overall that jett in the vid is playing his role well, he probably just have a bad day for the aim that time or the enemy just better.
@@shirigayamahiro6273 Exactly this, people who talk shit about entry fraggers being bottom are never first in site lol, good players never talk about KD because they know better
she does not need to feel guilty, because jett pressure voice made her feel she guilty.
i prefer she angry rather than feeling sad.
Kokage is such a precious and vulnerable person. How could you be so mean? That Jett shouldn't have said that and the comments shouldn't have badmouthed him. I feel so sorry for her :< she didn't deserve that.
The replies are crazy man. Whether or not Jett was badmouthing her or not. The viewers and him shouldn't have made her feel that way. But yknow it do be like that on the internet 😪
Probably the first vtuber I want to support, watching her is worrying.
i think that jett meant to say it on viewers not kokage, but ended up making kokage feel responsible
@@IZCranzy He literally says hes talking to the viewers not her
It's that one unfortunate moment when public party goes wrong. Kokage already scold her viewers so no need for him to double down acting like that. I understand he didn't direct it to Kokage, but it just added unnecessary pressure for her.
@@kanzaki2672 because streamers feel they "have to" be responsible for what their viewers do. That's why she also gets a little mentally affected when Jett is upset.
Honestly, kokage should not have picked up the comments about bottom fragging, during the incident. It is always better to hve a short PSA after when everyone is cooled down.
But its she's only been doing this streaming thing for a few months, she probably could use an advice or two from her senpais sonce they have been dealing with shitty people since pretty much debut.
Yes Im agreeing with your point but i don’t think her action is wrong or “should not have picked up the comments-”.
Calling out weird trolls is fine no matter the time since chat could get out of pocket/snowball even further. She could just ban weird chatters for the warning + brace herself if the person who’s getting flamed is somehow watching since its not her fault at all. More like series of unfortunate build ups than her being in the wrong. I don’t stream myself but i have seen chat turning into shitshow when the streamer is not calling them out.
right blame kokage for doing something nice
I'm really curious what happens in the live chat when Jett is upset, and when Kokage cries...
I really feel sorry for her, she just wanted to calm down the live chat who said Jett played badly
Those that are saying that and blaming teammates are the ones hard stuck themselves only looking at KDA instead of how impactful and helpful each plays are
this makes me so sad ngl mostly cuz i just got off a rank game and i had a teammate that was just an asshole just cuz they were top frag, they werent bragging abt being top frag but was just picking fights, calling everyone a baiter and backseating i defended someone cuz they backseated them and i got hated too i did fight back at the end since i couldnt take it anymore but moments like that makes players just anxious and perform less better like kills dont matter as long as ur doing ur job and helping how u can
Jesus christ it happened to the worst person. I felt so bad for her.
I feel like anyone else would've told the comments to fuck off and muted the guy when he began chirping.
Her listener are pretty much normies and the core of the problem for blaming bot-frag at the time. Bruh they haven't even change side, they're still on defense.
Had she not giving a f**k to those stupid comment, the damage can be avoided or reduced if that jett start raging.
Sadly enough normies and non-japanese always to be found talk to each other in her live chat, they are scattering around. Just go to forum or discord server and talk there lol. It reducing potential of her reading stupid or unintentional comment that actually harsh.
I'm not justifying what jett do tho, he got no anger control and even more he's generalize and judging vtuber despite he just know about her.
What does people being rude have to do with being Japanese or not? A lot of those comments come from japanese commenters, there are a lot of nice english speaking chatters in her chat if you ever paid attention. Don’t blame it on nationality or gatekeep chat, rude is rude and has nothing to do with what language they speak.
@@greenhat7618 read it again
I said "talk to each other" which is generally irrelevant to the stream.
And as you said, rude is rude, it can be found in either language they speaks so I bring it up as additional.
If you read live-chat archive on stream mentioned in this clip, theres also bad english chats like "her voice like porn actress" or smth. I believe I did not bring something irrelevant in my comment, but if you thing I am, then sorry for that.
@@rorororo9-i2i most of the discussions I’ve noticed in english are stream related, I can’t say for japanese as i’ve just started learning and can’t read elaborate sentences yet. And there will always be trolls, like the guy you mentioned I remember vividly as I was in chat when it happened, he also spammed a bunch of other stuff and when I see those people it’s an instant block and report, but she does need more mods as there really don’t seem to be any in chat. Most of your points I actually agree with, it’s just that in the non-japanese sentence, maybe you don’t mean it that way as english don’t seem to be your native language, but the phrasing makes it sound like you’re saying english speakers should go somewhere else and not talk in her chat.
@@greenhat7618 Sorry for my bad phrasing, I didn't mean it like that.
This is a beginner streamer mistake from kokage, she shouldn't read those comments, hope she learn to not read those types of comment anymore, or just laughed it off. Doesn't mean i normalize bad comments though
Bet those comment wont take 3 kills in immortal lobby
even only 1 is a miracle
Chat being chat once again. In any stream there will always be bunch of people whose only function in life is to badmouth others.
Im surprised someone this vulnerable can reach imo :( at this point its gonna be sooner than later that she realize, ranked streaming should be 5 stack, unless she learn how to ignore these hateful comments
Both Jett and the chat went too far. But it's the internet people can be mean without consequenses, she'll have to get used to that as a streamer unfortunately.
but what did he say tho.
before he got muted by Kokage, he said 「ってぶいちゅばじゃないかい」i think it would be more precise to translate it like "oh no wonder, you're a vtuber".
he did not saying a "bad" word but the sentence itself pretty often used to demeaning vtubers
@@rorororo9-i2i I'm not fluent in japanese, but I think Jett said the viewers are「バチャ豚」in which case I understand why Kokage got upset and the chat reaction after Jett said that, it is a pretty offensive word and might get you banned in chat if you type that in streams
@@helloo1226 Oh so the Jett is not picking a fight with Kokage but instead picking a fight with Kokage's chat & Kokage got caught in the crossfire & didn't like it
ngl the subtitles are iffy at best, making it a bit misleading with that's going on regardless of who is in the wrong here
one thing about jp chatters is that they usually dont think about other people but themselves when commenting, funny stuff lmao
i don't think it just a jp chat. it's pretty common now to have 1-2 or even more to have that kind of "chatters" on every stream i found....
thats why i, myself, consider the forbidden 2ch(A very deep strucutured Japanese forum) is even worse than 4chan,
4chan are A-word style but 2ch are some demons in disguise( The Kyoani incident was borned within the 2ch users)
the crying face too cute xD
how did jett knows shes talking about him? hes watching the stream too?
Either that or he's also a streamer and someone tip him that he got badmouthed for his play
I wonder that too, maybe he started watching when he discovered a streamer was in the lobby and he's not really a vtuber fan, maybe
IMHO the guy is so sensitive thank goodness he's not playing in sea server lol
Yeah, i think that jett is also a streamer, and his chat found out they were in the same team
@@jackhoward8 Probably a dogshit streamer in that case if he got so butthurt about someone else's chat
What the fu is bottom fragging? Like theowing a grenade in the bottom??
Bottom of the scoreboard in regards to kills
Vc is important in these type of games but I decided to turn them off and boy it's a life-changing thing ☺️.
VSPO members should *NEVER* encounters any scenarios that ninjisanjiers nor earlier Vtuber corps had seen. Children are too pure and too real to face these stuffs.
Espeically Kokage who had been in bad peer groups. With this wound pinching crisis, I couldn't bare to imagine how a person's heart would wither.
Negative emotions in someone's biggest hobbies are devastating, since brave groups (The infamous Game Club Project curpit) is still sharing some lessons after some histories, i would place my bets to say the manager would give her the best comfort needed, and hope to see this whole matter in a positive progression.
nub jett, why he rant like that when its real tho ¯\_(ツ)_/
Both chat and Jett are at fault for badmouthing. Every game there will be a bot frags in a team, so what? He is doing his job as Jett creating space, killing is everyone's job.
actually you can see that after the they switch side, the jett's actually carrying the whole team so idk bout being noob.
@@aratabhist bro is probably a bronze pleb who thinks kills=best
@@aratabhist then if he's good why still rant and badwords? he shouldn't feel guilty if he know he is good lmao just ignore xd
@@Ero_no_Kami okay, then why would he rant and use badwords? (if that "****" in the clip was a curse or something couldn't hear well)