This legendary lick is a frustrating beast! In theory it shouldn’t be that hard, but it’s one I see/hear people playing incorrectly all the time - myself included! It’s frustrated me for years not being able to consistently pull this off live and so I sat down to crack it once and for all. So, I’ve transcribed, analysed and broken down a practise session of how I ‘think’ Eddie was doing it. I’ve also got a couple of alternative options that far better suit my right hand approach that, whilst don’t get as smooth a legato sound, are more consistent for me to execute live. What do you think to these kind of super detailed deep dive lessons? Is it interesting? Should I have just spaffed a rough attempt with a big smile or should I get more down in the weeds pulling my inadequacies apart?! 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🎸🐝
Fantastic video! My obligatory hot take is that Eddie lifted this from Holdsworth's "In the Dead of Night" solo on the first UK album. He rips some similar stuff on "One Foot Out the Door" too.
Thanks bro! Cheers for the tip on One foot out the door, not as familiar will check out. Man, it's just mind blowing digging back into AH, at how early he was doing truly unbelievable stuff. Have you seen the Soft Machine live vids in 1974?
Great Vid Dave! Love the rhythmic accuracy, everyone gets that wrong. Your fingering at the end is spot on. That D on the B string IS played with a hammer on from nowhere on the G making the fingering symmetrical and basically feeling like a stretchy version of the standard fives style idea found on eruption, somebody get me a doctor and lots of others. Essentially one note on the high E, 3notes on the B and hammer on the G. Eddies only picks the first note on these types of things. I have loads of pre 1st album bootlegs and he’s already playing these ideas in 77! Before he uses tapping! Crazy!!! He ends up with a 5 note pattern played across sextuplets, so the rhythm back cycles/displaces by one note. Again it’s all over his playing, and happens in the tapping section of this solo. Great stuff buddy! 👍🏻
Thanks Jim, sounds like you're an expert on this, appreciate the detailed comment! So, you're saying like a combination of my version 1 and 3 would be the bang on way he's executing it? Hammy's from nowhere on both the B and G strings?
@@DavidBeebee I’m a total nerd with all those guys. I remember seeing lots of tabs in magazines for stuff like eruption and beat it and always thought it seemed really unplayable. And generally it’s because the fingerings are wrong, and don’t take into account that most of these guys don’t play ball to “modern conventions” of scale patterns and whatnot. They find a specific “finger pattern” that can be played quickly, then manipulate the harmony to fit a scenario. But keep the same arrangement of notes on a string or general shape based strategy, if you get my drift.. for example, the fingering as I described being a lone note on a high E string, then 3 notes in the middle on the B and a lone note on the G string. So for eruption it’s open high E, then G E and B played as 8 5 0, then Eb on the G string at 8.. so it’s the same principle, but different spacing in Beat It. But, yes your version 1 and 3 is exact! Hope that makes sense! 🤣🤣 sorry for the ramble! I never comment on TH-cam stuff tbh, but I thought it was a great video and I loved how exact you were with the details etc!
No apologies needed for a ramble, you can probably gather I'm also a bit of a nerd! Thanks for the extra info, that's really helpful too. I might hit you up for some bootleg recommendations! Cheers and thanks for the kind words. 🐝
Was it Holdsworth inspired? I know Ed was a big fan but that big stretch dates back to the 75-76 demos...which that stretchy riff is on...technically Holdsworth did put his first album and I think only album he put out until Ed started getting him back in the studio in 1982... Maybe Ed said it was and maybe the riff is in your mind different than the ice cream riff, but seems pretty similar
Hey Mark, I'm not 100% sure about this specific lick, but my guess is that this type of wide stretch legato playing was inspired by Allan. You can see AH doing this kind of thing with soft machine and other right back to early 70s. But I guess it could also be one of those convergent evolution things too though, two guys developing something similar independently either side of the Atlantic.
Cheers, it is a big old stretch! Yea single coils are a double edged sword, you get so much clarity and definition but you do have to work harder for this kind of playing. Thanks for watching :)
Hey David that annotation on your iPad was super cool. If you don't mind me asking, what software are you using with the pencil and what do you used to record your iPad video? Thanks! Great tone and playing too by the way. I think the lick was definitely inspired by A.H.
Hey thanks. Sure, I'm using an app called Explain Everything. Annoyingly they've moved to a subscription service recently, but it is a very good app for annotating and screen recording on the iPad.
_I_ don't get it wrong! That's because I can't play it at all... Anyway, this is great playing by David: the performance at the start of this video is probably the cleanest I've _ever_ seen this solo played, so I'll slow it down to learn it once and for all (and see how long it takes me to give up!).
Thanks dude. You can pick up a Solo Tee at store.solotrainer.app They are currently available but we're just low key with it a the moment, we're testing a few more products before launching properly with the next Solo app update. Thanks for the interest and kind words. Cheers 🐝
This legendary lick is a frustrating beast! In theory it shouldn’t be that hard, but it’s one I see/hear people playing incorrectly all the time - myself included! It’s frustrated me for years not being able to consistently pull this off live and so I sat down to crack it once and for all. So, I’ve transcribed, analysed and broken down a practise session of how I ‘think’ Eddie was doing it. I’ve also got a couple of alternative options that far better suit my right hand approach that, whilst don’t get as smooth a legato sound, are more consistent for me to execute live.
What do you think to these kind of super detailed deep dive lessons? Is it interesting? Should I have just spaffed a rough attempt with a big smile or should I get more down in the weeds pulling my inadequacies apart?! 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🎸🐝
Fantastic video!
My obligatory hot take is that Eddie lifted this from Holdsworth's "In the Dead of Night" solo on the first UK album. He rips some similar stuff on "One Foot Out the Door" too.
Thanks bro!
Cheers for the tip on One foot out the door, not as familiar will check out.
Man, it's just mind blowing digging back into AH, at how early he was doing truly unbelievable stuff. Have you seen the Soft Machine live vids in 1974?
Como é importante a articulação! Agora deu pra entender e, claro vai dar pra executar com maior velocidade e precisão! Valeu demais 😎
This is wonderful: very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks, you're most welcome! Enjoy :)
Great Vid Dave! Love the rhythmic accuracy, everyone gets that wrong.
Your fingering at the end is spot on. That D on the B string IS played with a hammer on from nowhere on the G making the fingering symmetrical and basically feeling like a stretchy version of the standard fives style idea found on eruption, somebody get me a doctor and lots of others. Essentially one note on the high E, 3notes on the B and hammer on the G.
Eddies only picks the first note on these types of things. I have loads of pre 1st album bootlegs and he’s already playing these ideas in 77! Before he uses tapping! Crazy!!!
He ends up with a 5 note pattern played across sextuplets, so the rhythm back cycles/displaces by one note. Again it’s all over his playing, and happens in the tapping section of this solo.
Great stuff buddy! 👍🏻
Thanks Jim, sounds like you're an expert on this, appreciate the detailed comment! So, you're saying like a combination of my version 1 and 3 would be the bang on way he's executing it? Hammy's from nowhere on both the B and G strings?
@@DavidBeebee I’m a total nerd with all those guys. I remember seeing lots of tabs in magazines for stuff like eruption and beat it and always thought it seemed really unplayable. And generally it’s because the fingerings are wrong, and don’t take into account that most of these guys don’t play ball to “modern conventions” of scale patterns and whatnot. They find a specific “finger pattern” that can be played quickly, then manipulate the harmony to fit a scenario. But keep the same arrangement of notes on a string or general shape based strategy, if you get my drift.. for example, the fingering as I described being a lone note on a high E string, then 3 notes in the middle on the B and a lone note on the G string.
So for eruption it’s open high E, then G E and B played as 8 5 0, then Eb on the G string at 8.. so it’s the same principle, but different spacing in Beat It.
But, yes your version 1 and 3 is exact!
Hope that makes sense! 🤣🤣 sorry for the ramble! I never comment on TH-cam stuff tbh, but I thought it was a great video and I loved how exact you were with the details etc!
No apologies needed for a ramble, you can probably gather I'm also a bit of a nerd! Thanks for the extra info, that's really helpful too. I might hit you up for some bootleg recommendations! Cheers and thanks for the kind words. 🐝
Was it Holdsworth inspired? I know Ed was a big fan but that big stretch dates back to the 75-76 demos...which that stretchy riff is on...technically Holdsworth did put his first album and I think only album he put out until Ed started getting him back in the studio in 1982... Maybe Ed said it was and maybe the riff is in your mind different than the ice cream riff, but seems pretty similar
Hey Mark, I'm not 100% sure about this specific lick, but my guess is that this type of wide stretch legato playing was inspired by Allan. You can see AH doing this kind of thing with soft machine and other right back to early 70s. But I guess it could also be one of those convergent evolution things too though, two guys developing something similar independently either side of the Atlantic.
is this stretch longer/harder than the stretch to the outro solo to bark at the moon?
Umm I don't know batm well enough to answer that, been a long time since I heard it.
Sounds great, I've never been able to stretch all that so I try tapping instead, btw, lick sounds cool with a single coil too!
Cheers, it is a big old stretch! Yea single coils are a double edged sword, you get so much clarity and definition but you do have to work harder for this kind of playing. Thanks for watching :)
Hey David that annotation on your iPad was super cool. If you don't mind me asking, what software are you using with the pencil and what do you used to record your iPad video? Thanks! Great tone and playing too by the way. I think the lick was definitely inspired by A.H.
Hey thanks. Sure, I'm using an app called Explain Everything. Annoyingly they've moved to a subscription service recently, but it is a very good app for annotating and screen recording on the iPad.
_I_ don't get it wrong! That's because I can't play it at all...
Anyway, this is great playing by David: the performance at the start of this video is probably the cleanest I've _ever_ seen this solo played, so I'll slow it down to learn it once and for all (and see how long it takes me to give up!).
Thanks for the kind words!
Exceptional playing and control.
Where can we get the tees from?
Thanks dude.
You can pick up a Solo Tee at store.solotrainer.app
They are currently available but we're just low key with it a the moment, we're testing a few more products before launching properly with the next Solo app update. Thanks for the interest and kind words. Cheers 🐝
All the right notes, in the right order… 👓 Andrew preview.
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There's only one person on TH-cam who has ever played this solo correctly and that's David Escobar.
That's certainly a great performance.
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You disagree?
@cameroncooper nails it also
We know Eddie didn’t care about the theory 😝
That's quite likely, but mere mortals like me can use it to help grasp the goats!