@@nadiapapadopoulo471τα Σλαβικα τους υποχρεωσατε να τα μιλούν οι Έλληνες. Κλεισατε τις Ελληνορθοδοξες εκκλησίες, σφαξατε παπάδες και δασκάλους, υποχρεωσατε. τους Έλληνες να ακολουθήσουν την βουλγαρική εξαρχία. Επόμενο ήταν να αλλοιωθεί ο πολιτισμός τους,όχι όμως και το Ελληνικό φρόνημα. Και έτσι, όταν ωριμασαν οι συνθήκες έστειλαν τους Σλάβους στον αγύριστο. Κατάγομαι από την Ελληνική Μακεδονία ,Κατάγομαι από διγλωσσους ήταν όμως Έλληνες. Και φρόντισαν να μην μάθουμε ποτέ τα Σλαβικα.Μονο Ελληνικά μιλούσαμε στο σπίτι μέχρι που έσβησε,εξαφανίστηκε αυτή η διάλεκτος. Τώρα πλέον λίγοι υπεργηροι τα μιλούν όταν τύχει να συναντηθούν.
“I know of two tragic histories in the world - that of Ireland and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.”- Irish patriot Roger Casement Greek? Not at all. Occupied and oppressed by Greece? Yes.
Συγχέετε τον Ιρλανδικό λαό με τους Σλάβους και τους Έλληνες;;;Είστε ανιστορητος.Βορεια και νότια Ιρλανδία είναι ένα έθνος με κοινή γλώσσα και πολιτισμό. Οι αυτοαποκαλουμενοι σλαβομακεδονες είναι άλλο έθνος, με άλλη γλώσσα και πολιτισμό. Καμία σχέση με τους Έλληνες της Μακεδονίας που μιλούν Ελληνικά, και νοιώθουν υπερήφανοι για την καταγωγή τους.Επισης,εντελώς πληροφοριακά, επισκέψου ένα μουσείο Αρχαίας Μακεδονίας. Αν δεις έστω και ένα ευρημα με Σλαβική γραφή, μπορείς να αμφιβάλεις. Δεν θα βρεις όμως ούτε ένα. Ολλα έχουν επιγραφές στην Ελληνική γλώσσα.
DNA is DNA, and your DNA is now well known, You're DNA shows you to be the same people as Serbians and Bulgarians, but mostly Bulgarian. You have a Slavic gene pool, and Slavic haplogroups.And to be honest Jakovski's results were no surprise. No-one, not even iGenea, has ever said that you were related to the ancient Greek tribe of Macedonians - the people of Alexander the Great. In fact your ancestors arrived in the Balkans 2500 years AFTER the ancient Macedonians lived in northern Greece.
We call you but we dont let you to speek :) That unshure identity doesnt exist in the republic of Macedonia & macedonian nation! This is greek histeria :) Macedonians are not histeric like greeks (like you see) because they are shure in his macedonian identity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@PaunBTMakedonski [Professor Donald Kagan, Yale University (USA)] "We know the ancient Macedonians were fundamentally GREEKS, that is to sy they were GREEK speakers, and ethnically they were Greeks."
In the same way, geneticists have found that Greek DNA is the same as Southern Italian and Tuscan DNA. (Tian et al, Francalacci et al, Cavalli-Sforza et al)
Igenea stated on its forum that no DNA data exists on the ancient Macedonians - the people of Alexander the Great, because no DNA has ever been recovered from ancient Macedonian grave remains in Macedonia - northern Greece. The DNA of the Slav population of FYROM is well known, 'Jakovski et al' data showed the Slav DNA of FYROM is the same as Bulgarian and Serbian. Haplogroups back this. The term 'antic. macedonian' was tagged to your republic name, nothing to do with ancient Greek Macedonians
By recognising ethnic minority in a state you are opening the pandoras box. Best example is the current situation with the Albanians in FYROM. Democracy is not recognising minority but treating the entire population of one country as one nation and giving them the equal rights. In regards to the other question about existence and recognition of FYROM as Macedonia, that's something that you Greeks left it for to long and now is to late. Because you don't do abortion in the ninth month of the pregnancy , you wont be allowed to do that by the rest of the world.
It was from Vergina Tomb. Who do they refer to as Ancient Macedonians if not to the actual ancient macedonians? Are there more ancient macedonians now ?
I don't know to be honest and I don't care. Do you know? Before making some comments, please note the word "belo" does not exist in bulgarian language.
But Alexander the Great, WAS a Greek. The ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe, ethnically Greek, speaking the Greek language and living in the northern Greek province of Macedonia. Ancient Macedonians were a Greek sub-group and they eventually merged and assimilated with the rest of the Greek populace, there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
there is no PROVINCE but KINGDOM. There are not Greek tribe ... but language described as NON GREEK and later after 6 centuries THEY DO LEARN AND EDUCATE IN GREEK because YES Greeks are much more developed in that sense ... Aleander the first MUST PROVE an Greek ancestor so how he will be allowed to OLIMPICS which are ONLY FOR GREEKS ... it is all Greek - British BRAIN WASHING from certain political reasons...
This video made by a greek tells you alot . I just wish you could look into your human side more, not for me , for this people that are sufferign the violance of the ZORO dresed up people.
@forevermkd [Professor N G L Hammond (1992), 'The Miracle that was Macedonia' p.206] "As members of the GREEK race, and speakers of the GREEK language, the ancient Macedonians shared the ability to initiate ideas and create political forms."
well.... that very funny ur saying that COZ ... British IMPERIUM actually formed, founded how to put it ... INVENTED the Greek Kingdom and the state with that borders which have since 1913 which NEVER EVER IN THE HISORY WAS GREEK STATE there ...
Zlatko Jakovski is not MY expert, he's your expert. He's a geneticist from the 'Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' who was assigned the task of profiling the DNA in the Balkans. His data showed that South Slavonic Slavs of FYROM were genetically the same people as Serbs and Bulgarians. That is, you are genetically the same as Serbs and Bulgarians. Not surprising, your republic was the Khanate of Bulgaria from 700 AD to 1204 AD after which you became Serbia until Ottoman rule.
Not only that but the Fst values show that the south Slavonic Slavs of FYROM are practically the same as Serbs and Bulgarians. All this just confirms Jakovski's data. You ARE Serbo-Bulgarians.
macedonia belong to macedonians and thessaloniki as alexander called this city and not solun is a macedonian and not macedonski or ruski or serpski or bulgarski grad. if you want invent a heroe that his name will be alexandar fillipovitc makedonski like superman or batman. but don't touch our history. if you are nothing and want something to be invent a new name, a new language because the language you have is very bulgarian and stop stealing our history, bulgarian history, serbian history
Do you even know what slavic is? St.Cyiril & St.Metodia from Tesaloniki established a chirch language,alphabet and songs. The alphabet is named Cyirilc by his Student Konstantin Philosof in honur of his teacher St.Cyiril. They established what you call Slavninisam all ower est europe. You taught Slav is a etnos or a race.... its a language GROUP Malakas
Of course your language is understood by Russians etc.....that's because it's SLAVIC. But your language is classed as west - Bulgarian, and of all the Slavic languages it's the closest to BULGARIAN. Kind of makes sense doesn't it, your republic was called the Khanate of Bulgaria from 700AD to 1204 AD. From 1204 AD to around 1450 you were called Serbia. And hey, your DNA is Serbian and Bulgarian, but MOSTLY Bulgarian according to the latest genetic evidence............what does that tell you????
I only quoted Boyd Jenkins an anthroplogist. What the history of population migration tells us is that Slavs are an ethnos or people that migrated into eastern Europe from their homeland east of the Ukraine in the 6th century AD and had migrated south into the Balkans by the 8th century AD. The Slavs carry with them a particular Slavic genetic marker. Their I2a2 haplogroups show us their origins from the Ukraine into Eastern Europe and like Ukrainians carry Scythian (Iranian) markers.
Only Greeks could participate at the ancient Olymbics Games.Alexander the Great have that rite because he was a Greek.- His father Philip claimed that he was from the Hercules family and his mother Olymbias,from the Achileas family.All the Macedonian monuments use the Greek language.- Sorry guis,but the Slavs become at the Balcan area much later,about the 6th - 7th century A.C.
In the Olympic games participate ONLY members of Argeat family , not ordinery macedonians . Sum of the macedonian kings ( Alexander the first -Filhellen ) introduced the Greek language in diplomacy and court, Athens declared him Greek, and for the first time his family took part
The latest paper concerning Slavic genetic origins using a population-of-origin approach showed Slavic populations can be traced back to the lands of present day Ukraine. This supports the hypothesis that placed the earliest known homeland of the Slavs in the basin of the middle Dnieper. You Slavs of FYROM or RoM, are Slavs, you are related to Bulgarians and Serbians, you speak a dialect of Bulgarian fully understandable in Bulgaria. You have no connection with the ancient Greek Macedonians.
@nitroflesh [Dr Orvill Boyd Jenkins (Anthropologist / Linguist)] "The modern country called 'Republic of Macedonia' is populated primarily by people of SLAVIC origin. The Original ancient region of Macedonia - in Greece, was the land of a GREEK speaking ancient ethnic group called Macedonians - the people of Alexander the Great."
@PaunBTMakedonski [Paul Cartledge, Professor of Greek, Cambridge University(UK)] " Alexander was not the FIRST GREEK to recieve divine honours in his lifetime, but the precedents were very few and of course, inevitably, inexact." [The Greeks, 'Crucible of Civilisation', p.228]
[David Sacks (1995) 'A Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World', Oxford University Press] "Historians refer to this enlarged GREEK society as the Hellenistic world. At the start of his reign, the 20 year old Alexander was the crowned King of only Macedon - a CRUDE GREEK NATION of mainland Greece."
The DNA of the Balkans is well known now thanks to the work of geneticist Zlatko Jakovski. Jakovski's data shows the DNA of the Slav population of the 'Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' FYROM, to be the same as Serbs and Bulgarians. The I2a2 hg of FYRmacedonian Slavs is of the order of 29.1% and Serbia 38.5%. and in both cases the I2a2 is recent. In Greece I2a2 is as low as 7% but not all of Greek I2a2 is recent as Ancient Greece also had I2a2. but due to illyrians and not historic Slavs.
@PaunBTMakedonski [John Guy, 'Greek Life' p.22] "Alexander achieved what no other GREEK leader had accomplished, in uniting all the individual city-states into one nation."
It's not a case of preference, Jakovski is a scientist. IGenea and DNA tribes is commercial family genealogy, it's not a science, so it's ideal for morons to lap up. iGenea and DNA tribes have both been highly criticised by other scientists for their assumptions based on haplogroups. IGenea had also removed their ancient folk culture testing because of complaints. Carsten Pusch a geneticist at Germany's University of Tubingen said iGenea's claims were "Simply impossible and unscientific"
Wtf ??? Zlatko Ilievski is from Republic of Macedonia..... Since when did you started to call your evidence on reaserch in my country???? isnt this a Gruevski propaganda country LOL. You really need help
So you prefer someone named Zlatko Janvski rather that Switcerland and Spain , the Igenea group ? They did DNA on whole Europe. Google igenea and there are clips on youtube i think
Пак промиване на мозъци. Хората поставят Македония като географска област, за това говорят и за етническите гърци, които се чувстват македонци. А защо човта на 4:98 казва, че дядовците им задължително са ходили на българското училище бе макета? А?
Alex Denev odele zatoa sto bile ili prisiluvani Kako Sto rece zadolzitelno bilo,Ja sum sretnal Mnogu hora od egejska makedonija vo amerika I kanada inikoj ne se e kazal deka e bugarin,sega dobivme makedonec Za prvpat u albanskiot parlament a vekje podolgo vreme imame i gradonacalnik u albania,taka da bulgarskata propaganda deka sme izmislica na TITO ne pali
How can you compare Macedonian with Bulgarian language?!?!?!? they are totally different groups of languages. Bulgarian belongs to Turkish group. Today's Bulgarian is Macedonian!!!!!
Thanks to Macedonians greks are still in this world , big mistake of Alexander the Great that become Ally with greeks , after he slotered half greece in Chaeronea. He should left the Persians to fix you , you deserve that , Macedonia has ,it is , and it will always me to the Macedonians. Part you took 10 August 1913 (The Bucharest treaty ) you will give it back.like it or not. Have a nice Day
Hahahhah he sayes that the greeks didnt accept to participate and to send a sample. You call yourself on reaserch that you dont recognise and didnt wanna participate in hahahaah
You pic one man ower Spain and Switcerland. Bulgarians are Turko-Mongols bring here by Kan Asparuh in the 10centery from the east sideCaspian sea, Serbinas are Slav. They have totaly different origin and you say they have the same DNA. Good luck trusting your "expert"
Wrong agan. Its not closes to the Bugarians. When Bulgarians come to my country they come with translators. My country was occupied by many countrys. You were occupied by the Turks for 400years. Does that makes you Turkish? On the DNA by Ilievski: "Macedonians have close DNA with Serbs,Bulgars & Croatians, & Greece didint wanna participate in our project" END of Quote . If you send your sample so we can compare you with the Bulgars,Albanians and Serbs than you can use it as an argument.
Bulgarians need tranlators in NorthMacedonia? thats a joke. Moreover consider that the slavic macedonian language has many dialects, and as the Standard was chosen by titoist Yugoslavia, the dialect which is more distant to bulgarian and closer to serbian. In 50s the residents of Sofia were speaking the exact same dialect with the residents of eastern Socialist repuplic of macedonia.
if it was bulgarian we would write vertical with mongol letters however the turko greeks of Agean Macedonian that were brought in 1923 are very related to bulgars
In the project of Jakovski the Greek didnt wanna participate in. why were u scared of the results? Second the 2500 arival of the slavs is Marks Vasvels teory a german in nazi Germany writes that in 1941, and that is a nazi teory for the Russians. Igenea said acording to the DNA u got in Verginas Tomb that we are 35% of that DNA and you are 10%. Those 10% you got is the macedonaisn living in greece. They have a political party in Florina called Rainbow .
We dont speak Bulgarian, Bulgarians speak almoust Russian. My language can be understand by Rusians.Polish.Ukraine,Serbs,Croatians,Montenegro,Bulgarians,Belarus,latvians..ect. Cause we speak slavic language established by St.Ciril & St.Metodi of Tesaloniki in Tesaloniki. Pleace give me the sorce of your DNA reasercher cause Im in a really good mood to laught today . LOL
Someone is clearly paying them to spread their propaganda. If you pay attention, it's the same few users on every single video. I already know their user names by heart.
well mabye you shoudl learn Bulgarian and come here and try to understand me. Some Greeks call it even a Greek Dialect the makedoski language that is spoken in occupied Agean Macedonia from 1913. A language that is exacly like mine is called a greek dialect ........ your ...... is endless
The only reason these people from Florina are saying they are Macedonians and not Greeks is because they are from a Slavic speaking community which was due to the Bulgarian empire and the 200year occupation which had slavonised the area whether they were Albanian, Greek, Serbian etc.. But the only reason they call themselves makedones is because they never belonged to anything and always felt left out in Greece and in the northern Greek region of Macedon so they say ok since we speak Slav and Greek we are going to call ourselves Macedonians from fyrom so they seperate themselves and feel like they found an identity and belong to FYrOM because their grandfathers were forced to speak Greek..but when you speak to a Greek from Florina who is a native he will never seperate himself from being a Greek from the northern Greek region of Macedon because he is a true Hellene. These Slavs are just a 0.3% minority in Greece my grandfather who is from that area use to call them voulgari meaning they were never Greeks they were Bulgarians but now that FYrOM wants to call itself Macedonia these guys feel like they can call themselves this too so that they feel like they are part of something that never existed and doesn't exist with all of fyroms propaganda
Anton Cha Cha Do you know empire of car Dusan?, who are people that he rulled? . I know my grendfathers brother who let to be a teacher in Greek school and gat selary for doing it . They fought about which church to worship Patriarshists(Ellenic) or Exsarxist(Slavic). My grandfather chose his mother language Macedonian.You have chosen greek propaganda, now you belive I don't exsist or problem is in Greek government not let you learn native language and force you to belive in half truth. If I learn modern Greek language it not make me Hellenic! You are only Greek citizen.People of Florina where minority in the past 1%What radical can happened to Macedonians to reach minority of 0.4% ?!!
+Jane Za no all you are is a slav/Bulgarian that wants to belong to something powerful and that something powerful is part of hellenic culture which is Macedon ... so you attach yourself to this.. the only real people of Macedonian origin are Greeks they will never call themselves Macedonia as a ethnicity unlike people of FYROM who want to seperate Greece from Macedonia but this will never happen because you can never change history look at all the evidence around the world.. from Greece all the way to afgahnistan there are inscriptions in ancient greek which was the ancient Macedonians native languae as it is today.
+Anton Cha Cha We can talk/hand wrestle about this subject till tomorrow and on the end we still wont agree. What its funny though its how you try to hide the fact that all that northern Greece start with Florina and end up Kastoria, all those villages there, they are Slavic, so ether knowingly you are trying to hide it or you are just a victim of the Greek propaganda, if you want to get to the bottom of the truth go there yourself and find out first hand. Call them as you wish bulgarians, fyromians but they are not greeks. ..... 0.3%???!!!! that's the blackest lie I ever heard.
“I know of two tragic histories in the world - that of Ireland and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.”- Irish patriot Roger Casement
Calling me fool only shows your low level of culture. The Marks Vasvel teory of the slavs is just a teory in 1941 in nazi germany. Go to the Karpati mountians in Romania and Poland and find the remaining of the non existing 100 milion slavs that apeared and inhabitated everything from Poland to Vladivostok and the Balkans. Not to mentione on the Blakans were the Ilirians & Macedonians who hold the Roman empire on sword and sheld for centerys. How the hell did the slavs beat them up
Respect to the men, a real greek MEN who filmed this . Thank god for open minded greeks that will help to end this misery of these people
He talks about Greeks who speak 2 languages, Greek and Slavic.
@@nadiapapadopoulo471They are ethnic Macedonians not greeks
@@nadiapapadopoulo471τα Σλαβικα τους υποχρεωσατε να τα μιλούν οι Έλληνες. Κλεισατε τις Ελληνορθοδοξες εκκλησίες, σφαξατε παπάδες και δασκάλους, υποχρεωσατε. τους Έλληνες να ακολουθήσουν την βουλγαρική εξαρχία. Επόμενο ήταν να αλλοιωθεί ο πολιτισμός τους,όχι όμως και το Ελληνικό φρόνημα. Και έτσι, όταν ωριμασαν οι συνθήκες έστειλαν τους Σλάβους στον αγύριστο. Κατάγομαι από την Ελληνική Μακεδονία ,Κατάγομαι από διγλωσσους ήταν όμως Έλληνες. Και φρόντισαν να μην μάθουμε ποτέ τα Σλαβικα.Μονο Ελληνικά μιλούσαμε στο σπίτι μέχρι που έσβησε,εξαφανίστηκε αυτή η διάλεκτος. Τώρα πλέον λίγοι υπεργηροι τα μιλούν όταν τύχει να συναντηθούν.
“I know of two tragic histories in the world - that of Ireland and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.”- Irish patriot Roger Casement
Greek? Not at all. Occupied and oppressed by Greece? Yes.
Thank you
Συγχέετε τον Ιρλανδικό λαό με τους Σλάβους και τους Έλληνες;;;Είστε ανιστορητος.Βορεια και νότια Ιρλανδία είναι ένα έθνος με κοινή γλώσσα και πολιτισμό. Οι αυτοαποκαλουμενοι σλαβομακεδονες είναι άλλο έθνος, με άλλη γλώσσα και πολιτισμό. Καμία σχέση με τους Έλληνες της Μακεδονίας που μιλούν Ελληνικά, και νοιώθουν υπερήφανοι για την καταγωγή τους.Επισης,εντελώς πληροφοριακά, επισκέψου ένα μουσείο Αρχαίας Μακεδονίας. Αν δεις έστω και ένα ευρημα με Σλαβική γραφή, μπορείς να αμφιβάλεις. Δεν θα βρεις όμως ούτε ένα. Ολλα έχουν επιγραφές στην Ελληνική γλώσσα.
DNA is DNA, and your DNA is now well known,
You're DNA shows you to be the same people
as Serbians and Bulgarians, but mostly Bulgarian.
You have a Slavic gene pool, and Slavic
haplogroups.And to be honest Jakovski's results
were no surprise. No-one, not even iGenea, has
ever said that you were related to the ancient
Greek tribe of Macedonians - the people of
Alexander the Great. In fact your ancestors
arrived in the Balkans 2500 years AFTER
the ancient Macedonians lived in northern Greece.
Браво, Братја! Македонија е наша, не е грчка, временно окупирана! Живи ла ми сте!
We call you but we dont let you to speek :) That unshure identity doesnt exist in the republic of Macedonia & macedonian nation!
This is greek histeria :)
Macedonians are not histeric like greeks (like you see) because they are shure in his macedonian identity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude u are obsessed with this i see your comments on every video in which Macedonia is mentioned.... seriously u need to chill dude.
@PaunBTMakedonski
[Professor Donald Kagan, Yale University (USA)]
"We know the ancient Macedonians
were fundamentally GREEKS,
that is to sy they were GREEK speakers,
and ethnically they were Greeks."
Респект за човекот
In the same way, geneticists have found that
Greek DNA is the same as Southern Italian and
Tuscan DNA. (Tian et al, Francalacci et al, Cavalli-Sforza et al)
Igenea stated on its forum that no DNA data
exists on the ancient Macedonians - the people
of Alexander the Great, because
no DNA has ever been recovered from ancient
Macedonian grave remains in Macedonia - northern
Greece. The DNA of the Slav population
of FYROM is well known, 'Jakovski et al'
data showed the Slav DNA of FYROM is the
same as Bulgarian and Serbian. Haplogroups
back this. The term 'antic. macedonian' was
tagged to your republic name, nothing to do
with ancient Greek Macedonians
By recognising ethnic minority in a state you are opening the pandoras box. Best example is the current situation with the Albanians in FYROM.
Democracy is not recognising minority but treating the entire population of one country as one nation and giving them the equal rights.
In regards to the other question about existence and recognition of FYROM as Macedonia, that's something that you Greeks left it for to long and now is to late. Because you don't do abortion in the ninth month of the pregnancy , you wont be allowed to do that by the rest of the world.
It was from Vergina Tomb. Who do they refer to as Ancient Macedonians if not to the actual ancient macedonians? Are there more ancient macedonians now ?
I don't know to be honest and I don't care. Do you know?
Before making some comments, please note the word "belo" does not exist in bulgarian language.
But Alexander the Great, WAS a Greek.
The ancient Macedonians were a Greek tribe,
ethnically Greek, speaking the Greek language
and living in the northern Greek province of
Macedonia. Ancient Macedonians were a
Greek sub-group and they eventually
merged and assimilated with the rest
of the Greek populace, there is
no evidence to suggest otherwise.
there is no PROVINCE but KINGDOM.
There are not Greek tribe ... but language described as NON GREEK and later after 6 centuries THEY DO LEARN AND EDUCATE IN GREEK because YES Greeks are much more developed in that sense ... Aleander the first MUST PROVE an Greek ancestor so how he will be allowed to OLIMPICS which are ONLY FOR GREEKS ... it is all Greek - British BRAIN WASHING from certain political reasons...
This video made by a greek tells you alot . I just wish you could look into your human side more, not for me , for this people that are sufferign the violance of the ZORO dresed up people.
@forevermkd
[Professor N G L Hammond (1992),
'The Miracle that was Macedonia' p.206]
"As members of the GREEK race, and
speakers of the GREEK language, the
ancient Macedonians shared the ability
to initiate ideas and create political forms."
By the way, I'm British not Greek.
well.... that very funny ur saying that COZ ... British IMPERIUM actually formed, founded how to put it ... INVENTED the Greek Kingdom and the state with that borders which have since 1913 which NEVER EVER IN THE HISORY WAS GREEK STATE there
...
Zlatko Jakovski is not MY expert,
he's your expert. He's a geneticist
from the 'Former Yugoslav Republic
of Macedonia' who was assigned the
task of profiling the DNA in the Balkans.
His data showed that South Slavonic
Slavs of FYROM were genetically
the same people as Serbs and Bulgarians.
That is, you are genetically the same as
Serbs and Bulgarians. Not surprising,
your republic was the Khanate of Bulgaria
from 700 AD to 1204 AD after which you
became Serbia until Ottoman rule.
Not only that but the Fst values show
that the south Slavonic Slavs of FYROM
are practically the same as Serbs and Bulgarians.
All this just confirms Jakovski's data. You ARE
Serbo-Bulgarians.
Makedonija na Makedoncite!!!
Solun Makedonski grad!!!
macedonia belong to macedonians and thessaloniki as alexander called this city and not solun is a macedonian and not macedonski or ruski or serpski or bulgarski grad. if you want invent a heroe that his name will be alexandar fillipovitc makedonski like superman or batman. but don't touch our history. if you are nothing and want something to be invent a new name, a new language because the language you have is very bulgarian and stop stealing our history, bulgarian history, serbian history
Δεν σας ξεχναμε αδέρφια Μακεδόνες, κάποια στιγμή θα έρθει η ελευθερία και για εσάς από τα δεσμά των Σλάβων! ΛΕΥΤΕΡΙΑ ΣΤΗ ΒΟΡΕΙΑ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ
and u think that (moder greek) language was Alexanders language?
It hasn't been replaced, basically it is synonim. Belomorska Makedonija and Egejska Makedonija means the same.
Do you even know what slavic is? St.Cyiril & St.Metodia from Tesaloniki established a chirch language,alphabet and songs. The alphabet is named Cyirilc by his Student Konstantin Philosof in honur of his teacher St.Cyiril. They established what you call Slavninisam all ower est europe. You taught Slav is a etnos or a race.... its a language GROUP Malakas
Of course your language is understood
by Russians etc.....that's because it's SLAVIC.
But your language is classed as west - Bulgarian,
and of all the Slavic languages it's the closest
to BULGARIAN. Kind of makes sense doesn't it,
your republic was called the Khanate of Bulgaria
from 700AD to 1204 AD. From 1204 AD to around 1450
you were called Serbia. And hey, your DNA is Serbian
and Bulgarian, but MOSTLY Bulgarian according
to the latest genetic evidence............what does that
tell you????
that northern greece is full on populated with bulgarians and not by greeks
@@JohnSmith-vc4tzέλα στην Ελλάδα να σου δείξουμε πόσο Βούλγαροι αισθανόμαστε. Θα φας Ελληνικό Μακεδονικό γαμησι που θα το θυμάσαι σε όλη σου τη ζωή.
I only quoted Boyd Jenkins an anthroplogist.
What the history of population migration
tells us is that Slavs are an ethnos or
people that migrated into eastern Europe
from their homeland east of the Ukraine
in the 6th century AD and had migrated
south into the Balkans by the 8th century
AD. The Slavs carry with them a particular
Slavic genetic marker. Their I2a2
haplogroups show us their
origins from the Ukraine into Eastern
Europe and like Ukrainians carry
Scythian (Iranian) markers.
This village was called Little Sofia by the greeks - I leave it to ya to figure out why...
Sofia was called Makedonski grad(city)... :)
Only Greeks could participate at the ancient Olymbics Games.Alexander the Great have that rite because he was a Greek.- His father Philip claimed that he was from the Hercules family and his mother Olymbias,from the Achileas family.All the Macedonian monuments use the Greek language.- Sorry guis,but the Slavs become at the Balcan area much later,about the 6th - 7th century A.C.
In the Olympic games participate ONLY members of Argeat family , not ordinery macedonians . Sum of the macedonian kings ( Alexander the first -Filhellen ) introduced the Greek language in diplomacy and court, Athens declared him Greek, and for the first time his family took part
The latest paper concerning Slavic
genetic origins using a population-of-origin
approach showed Slavic populations can
be traced back to the lands of present day
Ukraine. This supports the hypothesis that
placed the earliest known homeland of the
Slavs in the basin of the middle Dnieper.
You Slavs of FYROM or RoM, are Slavs,
you are related to Bulgarians and Serbians,
you speak a dialect of Bulgarian fully
understandable in Bulgaria. You have
no connection with the ancient Greek
Macedonians.
and read the next sentence " bidejki dobivale obrok ( food ) " . for free food, and education,,anyone could go at that time.
Macedonia will never neal to the greeks
We ruled before
Freedom for Macedonia
Macedonian forever
È allora che lingua parlano questa gente non mi dovete dire che è in bulgaro o un altra lingua dei Balcani è macedone per che sono stato in Macedonia
το ηπειρώτικο που κολλάει;;;
@nitroflesh
[Dr Orvill Boyd Jenkins (Anthropologist / Linguist)]
"The modern country called 'Republic of Macedonia' is
populated primarily by people of SLAVIC origin.
The Original ancient region of Macedonia - in Greece,
was the land of a GREEK speaking ancient ethnic group
called Macedonians - the people of Alexander the Great."
@PaunBTMakedonski
[Paul Cartledge, Professor of Greek, Cambridge University(UK)]
" Alexander was not the FIRST GREEK to
recieve divine honours in his lifetime, but
the precedents were very few and of course,
inevitably, inexact."
[The Greeks, 'Crucible of Civilisation', p.228]
[David Sacks (1995) 'A Dictionary of the Ancient Greek World',
Oxford University Press]
"Historians refer to this enlarged GREEK
society as the Hellenistic world. At the
start of his reign, the 20 year old Alexander
was the crowned King of only Macedon - a CRUDE
GREEK NATION of mainland Greece."
The DNA of the Balkans is well known
now thanks to the work of geneticist
Zlatko Jakovski. Jakovski's data shows the
DNA of the Slav population of the
'Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia'
FYROM, to be the same as Serbs and Bulgarians.
The I2a2 hg of FYRmacedonian Slavs is of
the order of 29.1% and Serbia 38.5%.
and in both cases the I2a2 is recent.
In Greece I2a2 is as low as 7% but not
all of Greek I2a2 is recent as Ancient Greece
also had I2a2. but due to illyrians and not
historic Slavs.
Macedonia is Greek. Alexander the great was Greek
@PaunBTMakedonski
[John Guy, 'Greek Life' p.22]
"Alexander achieved what no other
GREEK leader had accomplished, in
uniting all the individual city-states
into one nation."
4:56
4:05
5:24
It's not a case of preference,
Jakovski is a scientist. IGenea and DNA tribes
is commercial family genealogy, it's not a science,
so it's ideal for morons to lap up.
iGenea and DNA tribes have both been highly
criticised by other scientists for their assumptions
based on haplogroups. IGenea had also
removed their ancient folk culture testing
because of complaints. Carsten Pusch a
geneticist at Germany's University of
Tubingen said iGenea's claims were
"Simply impossible and unscientific"
Wtf ??? Zlatko Ilievski is from Republic of Macedonia..... Since when did you started to call your evidence on reaserch in my country???? isnt this a Gruevski propaganda country LOL. You really need help
So you prefer someone named Zlatko Janvski rather that Switcerland and Spain , the Igenea group ? They did DNA on whole Europe. Google igenea and there are clips on youtube i think
Vardar egej pirin golo brdo i prespa united Macedonia!!!
Пак промиване на мозъци. Хората поставят Македония като географска област, за това говорят и за етническите гърци, които се чувстват македонци.
А защо човта на 4:98 казва, че дядовците им задължително са ходили на българското училище бе макета? А?
Alex Denev rece ama izgleda ti ne razbiras makedonski, idele na bugarski skola samo bidejki davale besplaten obrok
Alex Denev odele zatoa sto bile ili prisiluvani Kako Sto rece zadolzitelno bilo,Ja sum sretnal Mnogu hora od egejska makedonija vo amerika I kanada inikoj ne se e kazal deka e bugarin,sega dobivme makedonec Za prvpat u albanskiot parlament a vekje podolgo vreme imame i gradonacalnik u albania,taka da bulgarskata propaganda deka sme izmislica na TITO ne pali
they are Bulgarians with Amnesia period
+Anton Cha Cha BEGAJ
You are Macedonian with amnesia...
Haven't you figured out yet why
you speak a dialect of Bulgarian? LOL
What about Danish, Swedish and Norwegian?they are pretty similar too
How can you compare Macedonian with Bulgarian language?!?!?!? they are totally different groups of languages. Bulgarian belongs to Turkish group. Today's Bulgarian is Macedonian!!!!!
@@bitolcanecc 😂
@@ogidimov9488 ❤️
Thanks to Macedonians greks are still in this world , big mistake of Alexander the Great that become Ally with greeks , after he slotered half greece in Chaeronea.
He should left the Persians to fix you , you deserve that ,
Macedonia has ,it is , and it will always me to the Macedonians.
Part you took 10 August 1913 (The Bucharest treaty ) you will give it back.like it or not.
Have a nice Day
Hahahhah he sayes that the greeks didnt accept to participate and to send a sample. You call yourself on reaserch that you dont recognise and didnt wanna participate in hahahaah
What the hell are you doing on every video
in which Macedonia is mentioned?
Pozdrav od Colun
THESSALONIKI😤
you are a sad person . I wish you good luck
You pic one man ower Spain and Switcerland. Bulgarians are Turko-Mongols bring here by Kan Asparuh in the 10centery from the east sideCaspian sea, Serbinas are Slav. They have totaly different origin and you say they have the same DNA. Good luck trusting your "expert"
Wrong agan. Its not closes to the Bugarians. When Bulgarians come to my country they come with translators. My country was occupied by many countrys. You were occupied by the Turks for 400years. Does that makes you Turkish? On the DNA by Ilievski: "Macedonians have close DNA with Serbs,Bulgars & Croatians, & Greece didint wanna participate in our project" END of Quote . If you send your sample so we can compare you with the Bulgars,Albanians and Serbs than you can use it as an argument.
Bulgarians need tranlators in NorthMacedonia? thats a joke. Moreover consider that the slavic macedonian language has many dialects, and as the Standard was chosen by titoist Yugoslavia, the dialect which is more distant to bulgarian and closer to serbian. In 50s the residents of Sofia were speaking the exact same dialect with the residents of eastern Socialist repuplic of macedonia.
Λιούμπκο Γκεοργκιέφσκι! BULGARIAN!! YOU ARE BULGARIAN!!
if it was bulgarian we would write vertical with mongol letters however the turko greeks of Agean Macedonian that were brought in 1923 are very related to bulgars
In the project of Jakovski the Greek didnt wanna participate in. why were u scared of the results? Second the 2500 arival of the slavs is Marks Vasvels teory a german in nazi Germany writes that in 1941, and that is a nazi teory for the Russians. Igenea said acording to the DNA u got in Verginas Tomb that we are 35% of that DNA and you are 10%. Those 10% you got is the macedonaisn living in greece. They have a political party in Florina called Rainbow .
propaganda
The journalist is a Macedonian too,haha what a joke, he speaks Macedonian language in the end
Tome Stojanovski welcome lunatic.The journalist is Cretan and you are Albanian Slav
Bravo za novinarot ..bravo za hrabrite i nepokoleblivi Makedonci vo Grcija
We dont speak Bulgarian, Bulgarians speak almoust Russian. My language can be understand by Rusians.Polish.Ukraine,Serbs,Croatians,Montenegro,Bulgarians,Belarus,latvians..ect. Cause we speak slavic language established by St.Ciril & St.Metodi of Tesaloniki in Tesaloniki. Pleace give me the sorce of your DNA reasercher cause Im in a really good mood to laught today . LOL
Someone is clearly paying them to spread their propaganda. If you pay attention, it's the same few users on every single video. I already know their user names by heart.
well mabye you shoudl learn Bulgarian and come here and try to understand me. Some Greeks call it even a Greek Dialect the makedoski language that is spoken in occupied Agean Macedonia from 1913. A language that is exacly like mine is called a greek dialect ........ your ...... is endless
Македонец, означава Българин!
Булгарин означува Волгар Туркмени Татар или Туркменистани.
THE SAD TRUTH OF GREEK GOVERNMENT!!! :)
The only reason these people from Florina are saying they are Macedonians and not Greeks is because they are from a Slavic speaking community which was due to the Bulgarian empire and the 200year occupation which had slavonised the area whether they were Albanian, Greek, Serbian etc.. But the only reason they call themselves makedones is because they never belonged to anything and always felt left out in Greece and in the northern Greek region of Macedon so they say ok since we speak Slav and Greek we are going to call ourselves Macedonians from fyrom so they seperate themselves and feel like they found an identity and belong to FYrOM because their grandfathers were forced to speak Greek..but when you speak to a Greek from Florina who is a native he will never seperate himself from being a Greek from the northern Greek region of Macedon because he is a true Hellene. These Slavs are just a 0.3% minority in Greece my grandfather who is from that area use to call them voulgari meaning they were never Greeks they were Bulgarians but now that FYrOM wants to call itself Macedonia these guys feel like they can call themselves this too so that they feel like they are part of something that never existed and doesn't exist with all of fyroms propaganda
Anton Cha Cha Do you know empire of car Dusan?, who are people that he rulled? . I know my grendfathers brother who let to be a teacher in Greek school and gat selary for doing it . They fought about which church to worship Patriarshists(Ellenic) or Exsarxist(Slavic). My grandfather chose his mother language Macedonian.You have chosen greek propaganda, now you belive I don't exsist or problem is in Greek government not let you learn native language and force you to belive in half truth. If I learn modern Greek language it not make me Hellenic! You are only Greek citizen.People of Florina where minority in the past 1%What radical can happened to Macedonians to reach minority of 0.4% ?!!
+Jane Za no all you are is a slav/Bulgarian that wants to belong to something powerful and that something powerful is part of hellenic culture which is Macedon ... so you attach yourself to this.. the only real people of Macedonian origin are Greeks they will never call themselves Macedonia as a ethnicity unlike people of FYROM who want to seperate Greece from Macedonia but this will never happen because you can never change history look at all the evidence around the world.. from Greece all the way to afgahnistan there are inscriptions in ancient greek which was the ancient Macedonians native languae as it is today.
+Anton Cha Cha We can talk/hand wrestle about this subject till tomorrow and on the end we still wont agree. What its funny though its how you try to hide the fact that all that northern Greece start with Florina and end up Kastoria, all those villages there, they are Slavic, so ether knowingly you are trying to hide it or you are just a victim of the Greek propaganda, if you want to get to the bottom of the truth go there yourself and find out first hand. Call them as you wish bulgarians, fyromians but they are not greeks. ..... 0.3%???!!!! that's the blackest lie I ever heard.
Nord Ireland is British
“I know of two tragic histories in the world - that of Ireland and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.”- Irish patriot Roger Casement
from a "gaygreek" to every hungry- for- truth man : read history .
the solution with skopia from the side of greece is one!!! borders with serbia now!!!!!
Watch 5:20 - 5:40 and shut up
Calling me fool only shows your low level of culture. The Marks Vasvel teory of the slavs is just a teory in 1941 in nazi germany. Go to the Karpati mountians in Romania and Poland and find the remaining of the non existing 100 milion slavs that apeared and inhabitated everything from Poland to Vladivostok and the Balkans. Not to mentione on the Blakans were the Ilirians & Macedonians who hold the Roman empire on sword and sheld for centerys. How the hell did the slavs beat them up