That is a great in-depth review that was really fun to watch. You made some really good points that I had previously not gave any weight. Thank you for sharing your addiction to research and passion to the fine art of knives. God Bless
Outstanding review Rob. Best on the tube, I knew you would do it right. Thanks for taking good care of her. I agree wholeheartedly with all your views. And as an owner of both, the sebenza still is #1, but the umnumzaan is about#1.01. Both quality CRK products, and manufacturing quality is best in the biz. I wonder what the surprise second review is, haha. Im on the edge of my seat, your other subscribers are gonna flip, stay tuned folks. Cory.
As its obviously a classy CRK this Umnum should be on every 21 owners wish list, thats assuming 21 owners would want to own another top notch production folder. Had my 21 for about 5 months now, and its too good not to use, as you know Rob I prepare a lot of game and cut feed bags, bailing twine etc, so 21 earning its corn. The Umnum is now on my radar, thanks to your review. but there are a few less expensive knives which I would use more to purchase first. It might end up a bit of a safe queen like some others, but thats alright, it would keep for the next generation to pick up, its good enough thats for sure.
Had a chance to grab one just recently... it's a gorgeous blade that you fully appreciate only once you handle it ! ;-)) . Very interesting and well done video!
I like the Umnumzaan better than the sebenza. It has a larger pivot, thicker blade and thicker handle. I think its simpler and better looking because of the design and simpler because only 2 screws hold the knife together.It doesn't need the third one because the thumb studs are the stop point. I disagree with you that it is not stronger. The knife lock is the same as a sebenza because the integral lock is the same intact since the umnum is thicker the lock bar may be thicker on the umnum, possibly meaning it has more strength to keep the knife in the open position. The Umnum uses a lock bar stop because to many people were trying to extend the bar with tools then sending it back to chris and claiming it was a defect (sebenza users technique of opening is different on the umnum so many were trying to modify the lock costing chris reeve money). Placing a stop disk there was just to prevent people from tampering with the lock bar not because the knife needed it according to chris reeve. It seems that you think because they include lock tide the knife(screws) is somewhat cheaper or inferior but its not. I've seen few people on the forums saying the sebenza 21 screws come loose so they just put on lock tide. Many responses to the post were to put on lock tide as that is what they did. It seems the issue is more common than what you believe- if you consider that an issue. You mention the umnumzaan wasn't as centered as the sebenza. If this bugs you a solution would be to send the knife back so they can make it centered. I recently purchased a sebenza 21 damascus with the blade off center significantly to one side so the problem of off center-ness is not unheard of and can be seen on the sebenza 21. I sent my off center 21 to chris reeve weeks ago so he can center it. I tried to do it myself but i couldn't get it in the middle. Also If I tightened my large sebenza 21 it also becomes hard to open so the idea of adjusting the pivot is there on the sebenza 21 as well ( at least on my Large sebenza with damascus).I'm still waiting to get it back. Going back to the lock bar I believe the umnumzaans lock strength is the same because the lock is the same. The umnumzaan may be even stronger because the handle, blade, pivot is thicker than found on the sebenza. The Umnumzaan is also a "sports utility car" as you put it. If you want to label them as sports car or sports utility car because of lock strength or thickness, i would grant the umnumzaan the title "sports utility" and the sebenza 21 "sports car. I like the umnumzaan better because i like the useful blade ergonomics and handle ergonomics and it look less plain as compared to the 21. My opinion is the umnumzaan is the better knife because it has the same strength as the sebenza 21 or more, and nicer looking in my opinion.
I get you, Jenny, but one rather large point of this video is that the Umnum is not in competition with the Sebenza. They're different knives. I like them both... a lot! However, I think you've fallen victim to some objectively incorrect hype about the Umnumzaan, and by the way, that hype doesn't come from CRK -- it's forum group think. It's just not a stronger knife than a Sebenza. A slightly thicker blade and a larger diameter pivot (which is not a locked down structural part, since it's adjustable) simply don't overcome its weaker construction. I stick by my original contention that the Umnum is a slicker handling, better looking knife than a Sebbie -- not a stronger knife,but it doesn't have to be. It's still an awesome knife!
I got my information about the 2 knives frame lock from Chris reeve himself. I do not see why the sebenza will be stronger considering the lock bar is the same on both knives. Can you explain your statement. I'm going to shoot Chris reeve another email to see what he tells me about the strength of both knives compared. Thank you
Actually, the lock bar is larger top to bottom on the Sebenza, at least the 21, and they're the same thickness. But it's not the lock bar that leads me to my conclusion, it's construction. On a 21, there are 3 positive, locked-down points of contact -- pivot, stop pin and rear standoff. On an Umnum, there is only one -- the rear standoff. The pivot isn't locked down; it's adjustable. I'm not really talking about ultimate failure strength, but rather how much the knife will have to be adjusted, tightened and tweaked as one uses it. The Sebenza just doesn't ever move once the screw heads are seated into the frame chamfers. In carrying an Umnumzaan for a week or so before this review, the pivot moved a bit and needed to be adjusted a couple of times. This was mostly evident in blade centering, something that never changes in a Sebenza. I don't mean to trash the Umnum, not at all. I'm going to buy one this week. It's great for what it is -- it's just not a Sebenza.
TheApostleP My comments/data are all officially fromChris Reeve and, I do not gather information from opinions and hype. I emailed the CRK and asked them if the sebenza is stronger than the umnumzaan. I specifically asked them to see if could get a bias answer toward the sebenza. There response was no. Heather said "both locks have about the same engagement and strength." My comment earlier about the knives being the same strength was true because it is in fact the same lock system. So Both knives are equally strong.
One could argue that increased points of contact, while providing upside in stability, creates more opportunity for failure. To continue your car analogy, it's like a fancy German sedan compared to a simpler Japanese economy car. Sure, you have 3 points of contact, but each point is an opportunity for failure (logically speaking). The Umnum may have a lower theoretical stability but it also possesses a lower theoretical likelihood of failure. Of course, in reality, both designs are executed very well. So often in engineering there are trade-offs to whatever you do. A "simpler" design may be less stable and a more stable design may be less "reliable." Of course, I noticed that you're using very particular definitions of "stable" and "reliable," so maybe I've misunderstood you or missed something you said. But you're also incorrect on the pivot point. The genius of the Umnum pivot is that you can adjust it without affecting centering. Any blade, as the original poster pointed out, can be off center, as there are a variety of issues which affect centering. Even the 21. But in terms of centering advantages, the bushing pivot on the 21 is at best equal to rather than superior to the Umnum. From a logical point of view, adjustability is not the same as "bad for centering." In theory, the Umnum pivot can be adjusted WITHOUT affecting centering. So it's not strictly speaking fair to count that as an advantage for the 21. Second, the pivot is structurally stronger. It's larger and, therefore, structurally tougher. That's just physics. Ultimately, I don't see a lot of explanation for your claims that the Umnum is not a simpler/tougher Sebenza. Chris Reeve himself has stated that the Umnum is the culmination of everything he's learned in his knifemaking career. I find it hard to believe that he would then produce a knife that is not as strong/reliable as a Sebenza. The same goes for the 25. I do understand that the 21 has 3 points of contact whereas the Umnum has 1 (it actually has 2 but whatever). However, there are more factors than points of contact in determining "beefiness" or "toughness." Strength of pivot, blade thickness, handle thickness and construction, all play a role in a knife's overall ability to withstand abuse. Is the Umnum theoretically less stable than the 21? In the sense that it has fewer points of contact, yes. But in no engineering textbook does it say more=better. One COULD achieve equivalent stability with fewer points of contact provided the design is smart and/or well executed. In my view, Reeve found that that 3rd stop pin added minimal stability, i.e. theoretical stability rather than practical stability, and so he eliminated it in favor of the blade-mounted stop pin. This created a simpler (i.e. fewer parts), more elegant design. But even accepting that the Umnum is less "tough" in this sense when compared to a 21, you can't discount the thicker blade stock, lock bar overtravel, and generally thicker construction as points in the Umnum's toughness favor. It makes no sense. In all these regards, the Umnum is unequivocally "tougher." To wrap up this ridiculously long comment, a lot of what I'm seeing in these Umnum reviews is current Sebenza owners being a little thrown by a different design. It reminds me of how Porsche 911 owners responded to the knew water cooled engines (or the change in steering from hydraulic to electric). Change is always difficult to accept and fans of the previous technology routinely focus on the trade offs as opposed to the benefits. But every engineering decision carries with it some kind of trade off. The best engineered designs minimize these trade offs...and that's what I think the Umnum has done. You get an adjustable pivot that does not affect blade centering, an integrated thumb stud/stop pin, a thicker (yet somehow faster/more explosive action) blade, and a more open knife design (meaning easier to clean and maintain). TL;DR I agree with a lot of your observations but I think you're missing the forest for the trees a bit.
I watched all the way threw and admire your honesty. Kinda have read between the lines and once again my mind is clear and made up on owning a 21 large 1st. Thx for sharing
Got a question for u. I just got exact same one but i have a problem that i cannot get past it. The pocket clip is alll the way further out compared to a Sebenza 21. The u num pocket clip really digs into my hand, especially my pinky. I think if the made the lockbar thikness same as the 21 and therby the pocket clip a little further in it would be kuch better. In addition the back of the handle feels a little smalle in circumferance/width and is not as comfortable. Other than that no complains
I was going to buy this knife, but I did not realize the zaan did not have the class CRK pivot, I guess i'm not ganna! I laughed so hard when I heard the sound you made when you showed the loctite haha
I definitely would not write it off for that, Max. My Umnumzaan is now just about a year old. Since my first sharpen and spa when new, I've never had to take it apart for cleaning or adjustment since. The adjustable pivot has never seen an allen wrench (Loctite applied) since then either. The action hasn't changed a bit, nor has the centering. It's the Chris Reeve of adjustable pivots. It's a great knife.
TheApostleP The first Cut out on the blade is for your thumb the second cut out is for your index finger for almost.scalpel like cuts Tip of the finger right behind the harpoon that's money
I have to use my nail to close the blade, and took awhile to get my panzie thumb (I ain't no tuff thumbs) used to it. Mine is older one with older pivot, which is way cool. Mine came with 75% lock up and still is…Interesting.
My only complaint is the lock bar pressure it’s extremely too tight also they should’ve put a screw in the overtravel stock so anyone can relieve the lock bar pressure very few people can remove the press fit over travel stop especially because it’s Loctite it in
You mean the edge doesn't smack a standoff when you close it? That's a hell of a concept. Someone call KOA quick and let them know what we have discovered!
Ultimately in time and with some extra $$$ you’ll want both. I thoroughly enjoy both knives! Sold my Strider SnG for a Rockstead Tei. Absolutely love that knife too. It’s in a different class.
nathaniel wren I believe the plain Large Sebenza is $410, while the Umnum is $425. Given the extra machining on the blade and handle, I'd say that makes the Unmum a bargain.
Chris Reeve doesn't like his knives to be flicked open and close. I don't think he ever said that. But the knife can be flicked open because it it the owners choice to do what he want and the knife is strong.
jenny Cruz he had a thread on blade forums where he not only flicked open a small sebenza 21 but slammed it open over 10,000 times with no lock movement. he said himself that you can flick open his knives. not to mention there is no way in hell he could ever tell if a knife was flicked open.
Another outstanding review my friend. You nailed it... guess you could say this review was the "Sebenza" of Umnumzaan reviews (ie, the gold standard). ;-) Seriously though, I think the Umnum just needs to be appreciated for itself. It's a fantastic knife that doesn't need to be "better" (or "worse" for that matter) than the Sebenza... just different and appreciated in light of its own merits (which are many). I am sure lovin' mine. As a point of reference, mine does not have a burr on the harpoon swedge... but does seem to have an ever so slightly off-center ground glass breaker tip--like Cory's (though I honestly hadn't noticed until you brought it up... whose more anal-retentive now? LOL). (BTW, I am sure Burt will want to have some words with you about the sport ute/sports car analogy thievery ;-) )
And in 2022! Rob’s opinion matters. I consider him an important independent authority on the subject of CRK’s. I wouldn’t buy one unless he approves! Now I own a dozen. Crazy!!!
Don't you mean the umnumzaan now has the larger sebenza 25 pivot. The sebenza 25 had it first. The sebenza and umnumzaan both borrowed the larger standard pivot from the ti-lock.
??? When has anyone heard of a pivot blowing out. Would rather replace a pivot than titanium scales. There should b something that goes before u destroy your pricey knife.
That is a great in-depth review that was really fun to watch. You made some really good points that I had previously not gave any weight. Thank you for sharing your addiction to research and passion to the fine art of knives. God Bless
Thanks for watching, Ricky! Glad I was able to provide some insight. God bless you, brother!
What a review & A/B comparison. Nobody does it like you do Rob.
Outstanding review Rob. Best on the tube, I knew you would do it right. Thanks for taking good care of her. I agree wholeheartedly with all your views. And as an owner of both, the sebenza still is #1, but the umnumzaan is about#1.01. Both quality CRK products, and manufacturing quality is best in the biz. I wonder what the surprise second review is, haha. Im on the edge of my seat, your other subscribers are gonna flip, stay tuned folks. Cory.
Dear Rob, thanks for the review. Especially for showing the differences to the Sebenza. Greetings from Germany!
As its obviously a classy CRK this Umnum should be on every 21 owners wish list, thats assuming 21 owners would want to own another top notch production folder. Had my 21 for about 5 months now, and its too good not to use, as you know Rob I prepare a lot of game and cut feed bags, bailing twine etc, so 21 earning its corn. The Umnum is now on my radar, thanks to your review. but there are a few less expensive knives which I would use more to purchase first. It might end up a bit of a safe queen like some others, but thats alright, it would keep for the next generation to pick up, its good enough thats for sure.
Had a chance to grab one just recently... it's a gorgeous blade that you fully appreciate only once you handle it ! ;-)) . Very interesting and well done video!
Excelent and comprehensive! I'm going back-and-forth between the two and you're not helping at all! Yes I know the solution. :)
I like the Umnumzaan better than the sebenza. It has a larger pivot, thicker blade and thicker handle. I think its simpler and better looking because of the design and simpler because only 2 screws hold the knife together.It doesn't need the third one because the thumb studs are the stop point. I disagree with you that it is not stronger. The knife lock is the same as a sebenza because the integral lock is the same intact since the umnum is thicker the lock bar may be thicker on the umnum, possibly meaning it has more strength to keep the knife in the open position. The Umnum uses a lock bar stop because to many people were trying to extend the bar with tools then sending it back to chris and claiming it was a defect (sebenza users technique of opening is different on the umnum so many were trying to modify the lock costing chris reeve money). Placing a stop disk there was just to prevent people from tampering with the lock bar not because the knife needed it according to chris reeve. It seems that you think because they include lock tide the knife(screws) is somewhat cheaper or inferior but its not. I've seen few people on the forums saying the sebenza 21 screws come loose so they just put on lock tide. Many responses to the post were to put on lock tide as that is what they did. It seems the issue is more common than what you believe- if you consider that an issue. You mention the umnumzaan wasn't as centered as the sebenza. If this bugs you a solution would be to send the knife back so they can make it centered. I recently purchased a sebenza 21 damascus with the blade off center significantly to one side so the problem of off center-ness is not unheard of and can be seen on the sebenza 21. I sent my off center 21 to chris reeve weeks ago so he can center it. I tried to do it myself but i couldn't get it in the middle. Also If I tightened my large sebenza 21 it also becomes hard to open so the idea of adjusting the pivot is there on the sebenza 21 as well ( at least on my Large sebenza with damascus).I'm still waiting to get it back. Going back to the lock bar I believe the umnumzaans lock strength is the same because the lock is the same. The umnumzaan may be even stronger because the handle, blade, pivot is thicker than found on the sebenza. The Umnumzaan is also a "sports utility car" as you put it. If you want to label them as sports car or sports utility car because of lock strength or thickness, i would grant the umnumzaan the title "sports utility" and the sebenza 21 "sports car. I like the umnumzaan better because i like the useful blade ergonomics and handle ergonomics and it look less plain as compared to the 21. My opinion is the umnumzaan is the better knife because it has the same strength as the sebenza 21 or more, and nicer looking in my opinion.
I get you, Jenny, but one rather large point of this video is that the Umnum is not in competition with the Sebenza. They're different knives. I like them both... a lot! However, I think you've fallen victim to some objectively incorrect hype about the Umnumzaan, and by the way, that hype doesn't come from CRK -- it's forum group think. It's just not a stronger knife than a Sebenza. A slightly thicker blade and a larger diameter pivot (which is not a locked down structural part, since it's adjustable) simply don't overcome its weaker construction. I stick by my original contention that the Umnum is a slicker handling, better looking knife than a Sebbie -- not a stronger knife,but it doesn't have to be. It's still an awesome knife!
I got my information about the 2 knives frame lock from Chris reeve himself. I do not see why the sebenza will be stronger considering the lock bar is the same on both knives. Can you explain your statement. I'm going to shoot Chris reeve another email to see what he tells me about the strength of both knives compared. Thank you
Actually, the lock bar is larger top to bottom on the Sebenza, at least the 21, and they're the same thickness. But it's not the lock bar that leads me to my conclusion, it's construction. On a 21, there are 3 positive, locked-down points of contact -- pivot, stop pin and rear standoff. On an Umnum, there is only one -- the rear standoff. The pivot isn't locked down; it's adjustable. I'm not really talking about ultimate failure strength, but rather how much the knife will have to be adjusted, tightened and tweaked as one uses it. The Sebenza just doesn't ever move once the screw heads are seated into the frame chamfers. In carrying an Umnumzaan for a week or so before this review, the pivot moved a bit and needed to be adjusted a couple of times. This was mostly evident in blade centering, something that never changes in a Sebenza. I don't mean to trash the Umnum, not at all. I'm going to buy one this week. It's great for what it is -- it's just not a Sebenza.
TheApostleP My comments/data are all officially fromChris Reeve and, I do not gather information from opinions and hype. I emailed the CRK and asked them if the sebenza is stronger than the umnumzaan. I specifically asked them to see if could get a bias answer toward the sebenza. There response was no.
Heather said "both locks have about the same engagement and strength." My comment earlier about the knives being the same strength was true because it is in fact the same lock system. So Both knives are equally strong.
One could argue that increased points of contact, while providing upside in stability, creates more opportunity for failure. To continue your car analogy, it's like a fancy German sedan compared to a simpler Japanese economy car. Sure, you have 3 points of contact, but each point is an opportunity for failure (logically speaking). The Umnum may have a lower theoretical stability but it also possesses a lower theoretical likelihood of failure. Of course, in reality, both designs are executed very well. So often in engineering there are trade-offs to whatever you do. A "simpler" design may be less stable and a more stable design may be less "reliable."
Of course, I noticed that you're using very particular definitions of "stable" and "reliable," so maybe I've misunderstood you or missed something you said.
But you're also incorrect on the pivot point. The genius of the Umnum pivot is that you can adjust it without affecting centering. Any blade, as the original poster pointed out, can be off center, as there are a variety of issues which affect centering. Even the 21. But in terms of centering advantages, the bushing pivot on the 21 is at best equal to rather than superior to the Umnum. From a logical point of view, adjustability is not the same as "bad for centering." In theory, the Umnum pivot can be adjusted WITHOUT affecting centering. So it's not strictly speaking fair to count that as an advantage for the 21. Second, the pivot is structurally stronger. It's larger and, therefore, structurally tougher. That's just physics.
Ultimately, I don't see a lot of explanation for your claims that the Umnum is not a simpler/tougher Sebenza. Chris Reeve himself has stated that the Umnum is the culmination of everything he's learned in his knifemaking career. I find it hard to believe that he would then produce a knife that is not as strong/reliable as a Sebenza. The same goes for the 25. I do understand that the 21 has 3 points of contact whereas the Umnum has 1 (it actually has 2 but whatever). However, there are more factors than points of contact in determining "beefiness" or "toughness." Strength of pivot, blade thickness, handle thickness and construction, all play a role in a knife's overall ability to withstand abuse.
Is the Umnum theoretically less stable than the 21? In the sense that it has fewer points of contact, yes. But in no engineering textbook does it say more=better. One COULD achieve equivalent stability with fewer points of contact provided the design is smart and/or well executed. In my view, Reeve found that that 3rd stop pin added minimal stability, i.e. theoretical stability rather than practical stability, and so he eliminated it in favor of the blade-mounted stop pin. This created a simpler (i.e. fewer parts), more elegant design.
But even accepting that the Umnum is less "tough" in this sense when compared to a 21, you can't discount the thicker blade stock, lock bar overtravel, and generally thicker construction as points in the Umnum's toughness favor. It makes no sense. In all these regards, the Umnum is unequivocally "tougher."
To wrap up this ridiculously long comment, a lot of what I'm seeing in these Umnum reviews is current Sebenza owners being a little thrown by a different design. It reminds me of how Porsche 911 owners responded to the knew water cooled engines (or the change in steering from hydraulic to electric). Change is always difficult to accept and fans of the previous technology routinely focus on the trade offs as opposed to the benefits. But every engineering decision carries with it some kind of trade off. The best engineered designs minimize these trade offs...and that's what I think the Umnum has done. You get an adjustable pivot that does not affect blade centering, an integrated thumb stud/stop pin, a thicker (yet somehow faster/more explosive action) blade, and a more open knife design (meaning easier to clean and maintain).
TL;DR I agree with a lot of your observations but I think you're missing the forest for the trees a bit.
I have a 21 and a zaan and I prefer the zaan and its my favorite crk, just my opinion tho
I am glad you have finally found a use for the Cadet's nail file.
Thanks, buddy! Your support is invaluable :)
Oh man its so funny when you bring out the Loctite!
It makes me feel a little dirty putting Loctite on a CRK knife... LOL!
I watched all the way threw and admire your honesty. Kinda have read between the lines and once again my mind is clear and made up on owning a 21 large 1st. Thx for sharing
Got a question for u. I just got exact same one but i have a problem that i cannot get past it. The pocket clip is alll the way further out compared to a Sebenza 21. The u num pocket clip really digs into my hand, especially my pinky. I think if the made the lockbar thikness same as the 21 and therby the pocket clip a little further in it would be kuch better. In addition the back of the handle feels a little smalle in circumferance/width and is not as comfortable. Other than that no complains
I looking at a Sebenza with crop circles on it.. Hope I can save in time. Thanks for the vid .Great job. Peace & Love 2 All
Hi!
I want buy a new Chris Reeve. Now i have a large sebenza 21 insingo.
My question is: What do you think, is the strongest knife from Chris Reeve?
What do you think about the Zaan with a Tanto?
Have both. It’s a personal style issue for me, but I love the appearance of the Tanto blade on the Zaan better than the harpoon drop point blade!
I was going to buy this knife, but I did not realize the zaan did not have the class CRK pivot, I guess i'm not ganna! I laughed so hard when I heard the sound you made when you showed the loctite haha
I definitely would not write it off for that, Max. My Umnumzaan is now just about a year old. Since my first sharpen and spa when new, I've never had to take it apart for cleaning or adjustment since. The adjustable pivot has never seen an allen wrench (Loctite applied) since then either. The action hasn't changed a bit, nor has the centering. It's the Chris Reeve of adjustable pivots. It's a great knife.
Is the blade finish/stonewash the same as on the classic Sebenzas, etc?
Matt H It is.
I don’t have locktite on my pivot on my zaan imand it’s perfectly centered and rock solid.
I mean what you think, what's the most stability Reeve folder?
Thanks.
Sebenza 21
Great vids, love the reviews, do you need a Kleenex?
TheApostleP The first Cut out on the blade is for your thumb the second cut out is for your index finger for almost.scalpel like cuts Tip of the finger right behind the harpoon that's money
I have to use my nail to close the blade, and took awhile to get my panzie thumb (I ain't no tuff thumbs) used to it. Mine is older one with older pivot, which is way cool. Mine came with 75% lock up and still is…Interesting.
Find some red O rings, found some on Utube last year. Makes the knife look very cool.
I’m going with that same look along with a custom red lanyard! 😁 To each…
My only complaint is the lock bar pressure it’s extremely too tight also they should’ve put a screw in the overtravel stock so anyone can relieve the lock bar pressure very few people can remove the press fit over travel stop especially because it’s Loctite it in
Thats the entire point of the stop... to keep you from changing lock bar pressure.
There is a Zaan at Arizona Custom Knives right now.
You mean the edge doesn't smack a standoff when you close it? That's a hell of a concept. Someone call KOA quick and let them know what we have discovered!
Would you recommend this over the xm-18?
Wrong
Absolutely
Ultimately in time and with some extra $$$ you’ll want both. I thoroughly enjoy both knives! Sold my Strider SnG for a Rockstead Tei. Absolutely love that knife too. It’s in a different class.
I have both and i assure confirm you that you want both😜 i should even say that you will have both
What is the price difference between the two?
nathaniel wren I believe the plain Large Sebenza is $410, while the Umnum is $425. Given the extra machining on the blade and handle, I'd say that makes the Unmum a bargain.
Still love the sebenza better. It was my first grail knife.
Great review.
The umnumzaan is designed to be flicked open according to Chris reeves design
Chris Reeve doesn't like his knives to be flicked open and close. I don't think he ever said that. But the knife can be flicked open because it it the owners choice to do what he want and the knife is strong.
jenny Cruz he had a thread on blade forums where he not only flicked open a small sebenza 21 but slammed it open over 10,000 times with no lock movement. he said himself that you can flick open his knives. not to mention there is no way in hell he could ever tell if a knife was flicked open.
Can you please post the link here. I searched the forums and can't find anything about him saying it was meant to be flicked open.
Another outstanding review my friend. You nailed it... guess you could say this review was the "Sebenza" of Umnumzaan reviews (ie, the gold standard). ;-)
Seriously though, I think the Umnum just needs to be appreciated for itself. It's a fantastic knife that doesn't need to be "better" (or "worse" for that matter) than the Sebenza... just different and appreciated in light of its own merits (which are many). I am sure lovin' mine.
As a point of reference, mine does not have a burr on the harpoon swedge... but does seem to have an ever so slightly off-center ground glass breaker tip--like Cory's (though I honestly hadn't noticed until you brought it up... whose more anal-retentive now? LOL).
(BTW, I am sure Burt will want to have some words with you about the sport ute/sports car analogy thievery ;-) )
Tell Burt he knows where to find me if he has a problem with my content :)
The 25 is those two knives love child.
Lefty Umnum up on KnivesShipFree right now. ;)
Who’s watching this in 2021?
And in 2022! Rob’s opinion matters. I consider him an important independent authority on the subject of CRK’s. I wouldn’t buy one unless he approves! Now I own a dozen. Crazy!!!
The sebenza 25 now has an umnumzaan pivot
Don't you mean the umnumzaan now has the larger sebenza 25 pivot. The sebenza 25 had it first. The sebenza and umnumzaan both borrowed the larger standard pivot from the ti-lock.
good pointer : )
Best in the business, brother :)
The Sebenza would be ,,,,, a G Wagon
Perfect!
I see my Dremel has some work to do....
4:19 NOOOOOOOOO!!! WHAT ARE YOU DOING, YOU FOOL?!?! ;-)
??? When has anyone heard of a pivot blowing out. Would rather replace a pivot than titanium scales. There should b something that goes before u destroy your pricey knife.
More like SUV and crossover.