No. 1 - agreed No. 2 - agreed No. 3 - that one’s on you No. 4 - that’s on you, it’s not a boat No. 5 - refer to no. 4 No. 6 - nothing has changed since you bought it. Just don’t change it. Move on. No. 7 - agreed (2024 location has changed) Fair video
Thanks for the comment. I always love when people tell me it's not a boat. While I agree with you that it's not a boat it is the most boat-like side-by-side of all time LOL. This thing loves water.
@@MudPuppyOffroad I would have just bought the new factory adjustment clips that the 2, 10mm bolts on to.. It actually works very well and the machine is built very solid compared to the others that I've owned..
@@jeremycasady8183 the drive train is great body work is crap. Let me know when you have 2k miles on it. In a rough rocky trail the rattles will give you a migraine. I don't ride it in West Virginia anymore for that reason
@@MudPuppyOffroad you buy a polaris for the ride, you buy a honda for durability.. Ive had and been on them all.. Honda is proven ny friend and stands out amongst them overall for it overall durability and reliability
The bed and the doors are adjustable, but sag comes from putting weight on the door. It's plastic, you're not supposed to use the door getting in and out of it. I make sure every new person knows and I watch everyone getting in and out. Usually I just show them the grab handle and they go that route from then on. My doors are perfect after four years of use. I only adjusted the rattle out when brand new, no more adjustments needed. Don't blame Honda for you using the door incorrectly. I adjusted the bed the same day as the doors. I close my bed it catches but the latch doesn't spring all the way in. I have to push the release handle down to fully engage the latch. No rattles and no sign of wear on the latches or bushings. one and only adjustment. You bent the side rail and call it annoying design, are you kidding? It's a machine, it's not perfect, but it's the best out there for what it's designed for. From the looks of how you use and abuse your machine, metal cage doors with metal hinges may be in order. They add a little weight but not to much. Might even consider replacing the bed with an aluminum flat bed. Looks like you're pretty rough on stuff.
Put the bed latch back it is adjustable the 2 loops on the bed are slotted. Also the door latches will come loose on the door side just tighten them back up
Yeah! Honda is really well built compared to Polaris crap. Reliable, quiet and the value stays up even years after you buy it. I’m wondering if you are not paid by a competitor to gives really bad examples……
Number 3 is like saying you drove a car over the curb now the bumper is trashed and it's the vehicle manufacture's stupid design because its annoying you. 🤷♂🤷♂ that's a step not a rock slider. Thanks for the videos and keep coming with reviews and update, I do think Honda need to step up on fit and finish.
I had to wrap electric tape around the latch on the bed on my pioneer to cushion the noise. Honestly Honda isn't what it used to be. I sold my pioneer to get a Teryx4 and couldn't be happier. Fit and finish is much better
That was on board with you till you talked about a kawi. Get you a 2022 pioneer fit/finish is weak in some non-critical areas but the overall engineering is light years ahead of that thing that's for sure
5/16's fuel or vacuum tubing with 2 zip ties and the bed makes ZERO noise after that, and latches tight. I have been chasing down squeaks, rattles, shimmies since day 1 and the 5/16's tubing saved me from ghosting this thing off a cliff.
I have the 2021 Pioneer 3 Deluxe. Good running machine but Honda needs to step up fit and finish. I bought it for the transmission and reliability ( bad experience with JD Gator belt drive). These machines are very expensive they shouldn't rattle like an old buggy.
The machine is not pathetic dude.. When you treat your machine like you apparently do, it won't hold up to your apparent standard.. Its not made of steel, none of the utv line are dude..
I was thinking about it, i dont think my bro in laws 2017 pioneer 1000-5 never had the door sagging/doors not shutting issue. I'm guessing probably a difference in usage.
There is actually an adjustment on the dump bed that would cure your rattle without doing everything you did.. My 24 pioneer has two, 10mm bolts on each side that I actually just adjusted yesterday.. rattle is gone
Thanks for all your comments, feel free to come back here and tell me I was right after you have some miles on it LOL I love my pioneer for the drive train but the fit and finish is the worst among all the Sxs's I have had
I've had them all Mud Pup and by far the Honda's have outlasted any Polaris or Kawasaki in the rugged area that I live.. Farmers and Ranchers are all going to the Honda because of the overall durability and reliability...
@@jeremycasady8183 I'm clearly not arguing with you about that. My entire channel is devoted to trying to kill Hondas and being unsuccessful LOL but the fit and finish is crap
The reality is; for what these machines cost, the quality should be much better. I like the overall design/configuration, but the quality is poor. I expected more from Honda.
Reliable machines, but they're pretty crudely built. Sold my Pioneer 700 after 7 years and bought A '23 Yamaha Wolverine. Much more refined machine with attention to detail. Except I wish it was a geared transmission.
So check your bushing on your door Hinges thats the first thing or your rubber stoppers by the latch are turned out too far and doors aren’t meant to lean on! I have a deluxe 2022 I bought in April and I have none of those problems course there little mine noot things only problem I have is the stock battery doesn’t like cold weather I start mine it has 12.7 bolts I turn the key and start it it drops to 9.7 bolts new battery it was also -15 degrees the other day when I cranked it over o and I had a nut come off on my swing arm not my fault dealers! Yes my bed rattled too but I ignore it after all I’m out having fun listing to the motor not noises it’s one thing in a electric golf cart but a motorized one I don’t care and the ratchet strap yeah that’s a dump sry there’s ways to make it stop doing that noise!
Depends largely on the terrain you ride and the year make and model gearing changes and clutch changes happen pretty frequently with these things. On this 2022 Pioneer 1000 I think a light 32 is maxed out for the kind of riding I do. On a talon you can do a light 33 it's a little more powerful and no real diff lock
No. 1 - agreed
No. 2 - agreed
No. 3 - that one’s on you
No. 4 - that’s on you, it’s not a boat
No. 5 - refer to no. 4
No. 6 - nothing has changed since you bought it. Just don’t change it. Move on.
No. 7 - agreed (2024 location has changed)
Fair video
Thanks for the comment. I always love when people tell me it's not a boat. While I agree with you that it's not a boat it is the most boat-like side-by-side of all time LOL. This thing loves water.
😂. Love mine too
Hey my uncle and dad used fuel line for the bed noise
Do they put it on the striker?
@@MudPuppyOffroad they put it on the brass colored rod
As a temporary fix, I put Gorilla tape around the hook. It works great. No rattle. Great list of annoyances.
Yup, 5/16's tubing on the catch (not hook) attached to the bed, with 2 zip ties to hold it on and the bed is rock solid.
This guy didn't have really to much to complain about.. the rattle could be gone in 5 min with the adjustment, and the door was soooo easy to fix..
My door adjustments are totally maxed out. I added the aftermarket door bushings and it helped a little bit but they still are flimsy crap
@@MudPuppyOffroad
I would have just bought the new factory adjustment clips that the 2, 10mm bolts on to.. It actually works very well and the machine is built very solid compared to the others that I've owned..
@@jeremycasady8183 the drive train is great body work is crap. Let me know when you have 2k miles on it. In a rough rocky trail the rattles will give you a migraine. I don't ride it in West Virginia anymore for that reason
@@MudPuppyOffroad
you buy a polaris for the ride, you buy a honda for durability.. Ive had and been on them all.. Honda is proven ny friend and stands out amongst them overall for it overall durability and reliability
The bed and the doors are adjustable, but sag comes from putting weight on the door. It's plastic, you're not supposed to use the door getting in and out of it. I make sure every new person knows and I watch everyone getting in and out. Usually I just show them the grab handle and they go that route from then on. My doors are perfect after four years of use. I only adjusted the rattle out when brand new, no more adjustments needed. Don't blame Honda for you using the door incorrectly.
I adjusted the bed the same day as the doors. I close my bed it catches but the latch doesn't spring all the way in. I have to push the release handle down to fully engage the latch. No rattles and no sign of wear on the latches or bushings. one and only adjustment.
You bent the side rail and call it annoying design, are you kidding?
It's a machine, it's not perfect, but it's the best out there for what it's designed for.
From the looks of how you use and abuse your machine, metal cage doors with metal hinges may be in order. They add a little weight but not to much. Might even consider replacing the bed with an aluminum flat bed. Looks like you're pretty rough on stuff.
Geez... long comment. Its *you're*
Put the bed latch back it is adjustable the 2 loops on the bed are slotted. Also the door latches will come loose on the door side just tighten them back up
Yeah! Honda is really well built compared to Polaris crap. Reliable, quiet and the value stays up even years after you buy it. I’m wondering if you are not paid by a competitor to gives really bad examples……
Number 3 is like saying you drove a car over the curb now the bumper is trashed and it's the vehicle manufacture's stupid design because its annoying you. 🤷♂🤷♂ that's a step not a rock slider. Thanks for the videos and keep coming with reviews and update, I do think Honda need to step up on fit and finish.
I had to wrap electric tape around the latch on the bed on my pioneer to cushion the noise. Honestly Honda isn't what it used to be. I sold my pioneer to get a Teryx4 and couldn't be happier. Fit and finish is much better
That was on board with you till you talked about a kawi. Get you a 2022 pioneer fit/finish is weak in some non-critical areas but the overall engineering is light years ahead of that thing that's for sure
5/16's fuel or vacuum tubing with 2 zip ties and the bed makes ZERO noise after that, and latches tight. I have been chasing down squeaks, rattles, shimmies since day 1 and the 5/16's tubing saved me from ghosting this thing off a cliff.
I have the 2021 Pioneer 3 Deluxe. Good running machine but Honda needs to step up fit and finish. I bought it for the transmission and reliability ( bad experience with JD Gator belt drive). These machines are very expensive they shouldn't rattle like an old buggy.
Truth man
None of these machines are made to play in deep water
That's actually pretty incorrect about half of the side by sides sold in my area come with Factory snorkels
You can take the padding off and you can reach it from there
The machine is not pathetic dude.. When you treat your machine like you apparently do, it won't hold up to your apparent standard.. Its not made of steel, none of the utv line are dude..
I was thinking about it, i dont think my bro in laws 2017 pioneer 1000-5 never had the door sagging/doors not shutting issue. I'm guessing probably a difference in usage.
There is actually an adjustment on the dump bed that would cure your rattle without doing everything you did.. My 24 pioneer has two, 10mm bolts on each side that I actually just adjusted yesterday.. rattle is gone
Thanks for all your comments, feel free to come back here and tell me I was right after you have some miles on it LOL I love my pioneer for the drive train but the fit and finish is the worst among all the Sxs's I have had
I've had them all Mud Pup and by far the Honda's have outlasted any Polaris or Kawasaki in the rugged area that I live.. Farmers and Ranchers are all going to the Honda because of the overall durability and reliability...
@@jeremycasady8183 I'm clearly not arguing with you about that. My entire channel is devoted to trying to kill Hondas and being unsuccessful LOL but the fit and finish is crap
We can agree to disagree but I do like your videos..
@@jeremycasady8183lol find a Sxs with worse doors. I've literally had people fall out going through a turn
The reality is; for what these machines cost, the quality should be much better.
I like the overall design/configuration, but the quality is poor.
I expected more from Honda.
Reliable machines, but they're pretty crudely built. Sold my Pioneer 700 after 7 years and bought A '23 Yamaha Wolverine. Much more refined machine with attention to detail. Except I wish it was a geared transmission.
I had a wolverine as well great machine except for the belt drive and the tie rods
I'd brace that bar. Be a nice little slider
**Drama Queen**
Oh when people complain about other people conplianing lpl
So check your bushing on your door Hinges thats the first thing or your rubber stoppers by the latch are turned out too far and doors aren’t meant to lean on! I have a deluxe 2022 I bought in April and I have none of those problems course there little mine noot things only problem I have is the stock battery doesn’t like cold weather I start mine it has 12.7 bolts I turn the key and start it it drops to 9.7 bolts new battery it was also -15 degrees the other day when I cranked it over o and I had a nut come off on my swing arm not my fault dealers! Yes my bed rattled too but I ignore it after all I’m out having fun listing to the motor not noises it’s one thing in a electric golf cart but a motorized one I don’t care and the ratchet strap yeah that’s a dump sry there’s ways to make it stop doing that noise!
Also the key point of this video is that the owner of the 1000 Yamaha immediately wanted to trade it in after driving my Honda
How large and heavy of a tire can you run before the clutches in that transmission give you issues?
Depends largely on the terrain you ride and the year make and model gearing changes and clutch changes happen pretty frequently with these things. On this 2022 Pioneer 1000 I think a light 32 is maxed out for the kind of riding I do. On a talon you can do a light 33 it's a little more powerful and no real diff lock
Ranger is 20-25 hours till first service and 100 hours on differential, I’d rather have that honda
Will you make a video on your 300s again?
Probably not because I haven't owned one in like 3 years too slow too rough and the parts are hard to find
honda suv nice to
Keep in mind people these are just overpriced atv's and remember "going deep" is cool if you have a submarine! Smh
Brilliant
You just trashed it for no reason
I get paid to trash these things that's a pretty good reason probably the best reason
You still wanna sell that grizzly
I have a new friend 😂😂😂
unwatchable cause you cant hold your camera still your all over the place
Oh I'm so sorry! I'll remake the video just for you right now