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- 60 minutes of Dave assembling his silent (low noise) Intel i7 3770K video editing computer. If you find that boring, don't watch.
NOTE: This is NOT an instructional video!
YES, I used WAY too much thermal paste (as shown in the heatsink instructions!), get over it. I cleaned it and fixed it afterwards.
YES, I initially put the memory in the wrong sockets.
YES, I did not do any cable management, I just wanted to test the thing, get over it.
I fixed all those issues, so no more stupid comments please.
Also, please DON'T leave uninformed generic comments about needing a high end video card for editing and rendering. You are wrong for my case, read this first:
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Coolermaster Silencio 550 case.
Asus Z77 motherboard
Coolermaster 212 Evo heatsink
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you're supposed to install the I/O shield in the case before you put the motherboard in....
where's your PC building video?
the temptation to correct him about some of this stuff is strong XD
This is a video editing PC, not a gaming PC. Gamers need to calm down about this video.
Finally! Somebody who realized that fact.
***** "buh... buh... How you gonna play crysis 3 tho!?!?!?!?"
+tristan digert To be fair it would make a pretty sweet gaming pc with just a gpu . Everything else is pretty much as good as you need for a gaming pc . Most gamers will pay 3 times the price for flashing lights .
John Smith True
hardstyle905 k first off
Dave do you provide positive air pressure to the enclosure with your fan setup?
I think Dave used WAY too much thermal paste.
+The Kaiser no rly
"thinnest layer possible" *looking at plastered-over heatsink* O_o
you probably all ready heard much of this, but i have to ask what made you think to install the i/o shield to the mother board before putting it in the case. I have always heard to put the shield on the case then put the mobo in.
Dave what was the Windows Performance Index after install? BTW great vids!
put the rams in : black both or blue both not one black and one blue ( the a and b ) are channels that helps a lot for you for speeding up ram access:now you are using only A channel B is idle so if you put the ram you shall get double access speed.
just saying that
You can run in dual channel ram or single. Both have there advantages
Agreed. It works much better if you use only one channel if you have only 2 sticks of ram.
Being in school for this kind of thing, I found segments of this painful to watch.
You need to go to a school to assemble PCs now ?
Raptor3388 No, but we cover assembly and disassembly early on.
aww ;( are you mad that someone was able to figure this out without needing to go to school for it?
you have to put the io shield in to the case first then push the mother board in to it?
uh... and ps/2 keyboards... What IRQ does the keyboard interface have? :)
And the usb...?
Dave, you did good! No complaints given you hadn't done one in 10 years. How are you supposed to know the little things unless you've done them? Keep up the good work!
my OCD building side was going crazy over the cable management... there's holes and ports for hiding all the wiring behind the motherboard... it looks so much prettier and the airflow's so much better when you hide all the cables in the back!!
ThEcRaZ3dGaM3R While this is true to a point, it's a moot point as he has a windowless side panel (nobody's going to look inside it, why bother making it look pretty?), and LTT has pretty much proven that the loss of airflow by having a rats nest of wires is negligible, as they literally filled a tower with clothing and an iron while running, blocking all possible airflow, put the processor under load, and they still couldn't get the computer to overheat, I don't think one measly wire will completely destroy airflow
Michael Dickens Very true!!
You forgot cardboard boxes
As you may have guessed from that comment I haven't used onboard video in a while. Was multi-display support added in the overhaul for the Core iX series?
How many times will I have to say this? GPU acceleration (CUDA or OpenCL) on my chosen Sony MovieStudio / Vegas software, makes very little difference. I have tried it.
I was going to make some observations. But, I will not. 15 years since your last build so it's understandable that mistakes where made. Next time I would suggest watching (or asking) someone who builds PC's all the time for a little help and advice. But nice attempt considering, I've seen a LOT worse.
Yes really...
Thermal paste should be applied on the cpu in a pea sized dot
Ram should have been installed in the 2 blue slots (would have also allowed the fan to be installed in its original configuration)
I/O shield is to be installed into the case first
But considering it's been 15 years since he's built a PC, they are common noob mistakes that won't keep the PC from running. So I'd say he did an alright job, it works!
Quote of the day:
I like the sound of the GPU boost switch
The thermal paste made my skin crawl (even though you had the annotation saying you fixed it). Also, the CPU fan facing the wrong way (not blowing to the rear exhaust fan) was also a bit funny to me.
Somehow I got the feeling of watching a train crash in slow motion throughout the video. It shows that it's the first time in 10-15 years. And I am aware that I'm not perfect either.
what was the problem with the ram being too tall, didn't get that
treat the thermal compound like toothpaste... just make a little line in the middle of the processor and when you mount the cooler on, the pressure will spread it out into a thin layer
+Devin Stepp on that topic if you need thermal compound in a hurry just to hold the computer temps till you get real thermal compound, toothpaste will work as a temporary thermal compound. i've done it before and it works just fine just don't use the grainy stuff. and don't leave it in more than 3-4 days. just for emergency use.
+brandonhughes7 dang that's kinda Kool XD lol
Just watching this while reconfiguring my desk and thought id make mention of my desktop machine. It isnt all that powerful. 2.6 GHz Intel Core 2 Quad, 4GB DDR2 Ram, 500gb HDD and no graphics card. But it is built inside an old 20MHz Dual Channel CRT Oscilloscope that was non functional. Its an interesting case to say the least, and looks quite cool.
Sounds nice. Quite an interesting modded rig. ^_^
Isnt ram supposed to go into slots of the same colour to get dual chanel performance?
yes
I tend to run powercfg -h off at the admin command prompt, to remove the hidden hiberfil.sys equal to the size of the ram from the C Drive.
Put your PSU in first...
lmao, he installed the ram in the wrong slots
he said that already
stop it, dave has a enough sand in his private parts
#latereaction
This has to be one of the best and most entertaining PC builds that I have seen on You Tube. Nice :)
Altogether a solid build Dave! A nice well rounded machine, hope this makes your videos faster and easier to make!
Google is your friend most of the time.
Not a fan of acoustic foam, it acts like lagging on a boiler and keeps the heat in. Love this guy but that build was painful to watch.
Do you learn all this stuff when learning to be an electrician, or is it done via an electronics engineering course? Thanks
where did you purchase all the components because my graphics card on my computer packed it and i need to get a new one
TOO MUCH THERMAL PASTE DUDE!!!! I was cringing during that whole part...
Vapicon % that's the misteak I made 20 years ago. paste all over the socket.
yuk!
well whats with smack talking gamers?
+newrhea13 Because we have better systems
+newrhea13 It's because they are too stupid to realize he built the PC for video editing not gaming and they also probably have no clue that you need different specs.
Even though he using a desktop CPU and a desktop ATX board, yeah ok....
Destrica UK Opposed to what exactly? I doubt he wanted to spend 2-3k on a system.
I Love Purple Hazmats he was referring to it you saying it was not a gaming computer. also 2k? how is it possible to spend 2k on a build like this? is that usd or aus?
Did you end up adding the noctua fans in
Thanks for the video Dave, I'm thinking of building a PC with a z77 chipset soon. I'll be definitely taking a closer look at the size of components now.
One question I'd love to ask is why the optical drive? For ease of installing Windows 7 and software?
Anyone else feel insulted by his tone when mocking us as "fanboys" ¿
expensive computer, cheap monitor.
+The Polish Video Game Nerd expensive? lol
+The Polish Video Game Nerd He found the monitor in a dumpster. I recon it's brilliant.
i found sony bravia tv in dumpster.
atleast is full hd and 50 inch.
+The Polish Video Game Nerd have you ever used a monitor as a computer screen?
Oskar Martin
now i using some lg monitor.
but before.
no.
i uses 21 inch tv.
So how much power does it take during high-CPU load video conversion?
How long ago was it that you built your last PC? I got into the building of computers late but it's still about 15 years ago and I can't remember having to mess with any jumpers?
Dave thanks for going in-depth on things like the caps 39:12. Given how flimsy that board is would you buy one again?
bottom line boards tend to be more flimsy, I have an ASUS ROG MAXIMUS V Formula, their ultra top of the line LGA 1155 Z77 chipset board, and the thing weights a ton between the VRM and chipset coolers. Boards also 2mm to support the heavier coolers.
Joshua Nicoll
Seems to be true of PSUs as well, the heavier the darn things are generally the better quality. Cool to know about the ROG, never actually owned one, but have had a number of older ASUS boards that were pretty good.
Indeed, my PSU also weights a ton, it's a Corsair RM850x 850 watt PSU, so it's gonna be a little heavy. The ROG boards are however VERY expensive, some costing as much as $400. ASUS's WS work station X99 one is also thicker, but being X99 costs a lot more too.
The Asus Tuf series MB are the durable overbuilt models, ROG is the overclocking and performance group.
They're basically the same actually, both have overbuilt VRMs and Z series chipsets so both overclock, the main difference is aesthetics. ROG being black and (used to be red) very angular heatsinks, the TUF series is more tame and white.
After using this machine for a few months, is there anything you would change, or have changed, about it? I'm going to build a similar PC and I wanted to check one last time before ordering parts. Thanks from North Dakota, USA.
This has to be the best PC build or PC components review I've seen on youtube (aside from the obvious technical failures but they're of various benefits) all presented in Dave's famous style. I trust that the feedback that Dave has provided on many points makes it up the chains with the popularity of his videos.
Great video as always Dave.
one more question off topic. in some of your earlier videos, at the intro, you show a photo of yourself which is being outlined in black. how did you do that? thanks...
Six years on from 2013, what is a high end PC now?
where did you get the parts jw or msy
Not too sure what to say so far, only 30 mins through. Did you take the sticker off the chipset heat sink?
i think the heatsink does not fit because when you took the side panel off the cooler moved caused by the foam on the side panel
what about using ramslots 3 and 4 instead off 1 and 2?space for fan is not a problem then. as long you are using both channels.are clearly marked in fast guide for asus mobo.those ram heatsink are most for show anyway if they are ddr3 and 1600mhz.
This has to be one of the funniest build video's i have seen in a while.
why do they put the pin 1 triangle on when the cpu is keyed to go in 1 way
why not a intel ssd? Are you up to date with ssd reliability?
How important is static protection building a PC? Would I be likely to ruin my hardware building one on my kitchen table using unprotected screwdrivers?
36:43 - Is that PSU board really phenolic? I thought they were all fiberglass now.
The choice of parts is entirely up to the needs of the user... but with that said: may I interest you in using a free ramdisk solution for your idle ram? ~10x the speed of any ssd
What software are you using for video editing?
Mmm.... Would it not be better for video editing station to have a gpu?
I love the continuity and the chronological order.
Correct me if I am wrong but I thing the RAM modules must be in the same color slots so you wil use them in Dual Chanel
Good video Dave, enjoyed very much.
Do you have those figures? I can see how increasing the distance between the two thermal planes causes a drop off in conductivity, even if the void is filled with paste, but I'm not sure where the idea that a blob is better than a thin even layer of paste...would be interesting reading to put it all to rest!
Hi Dave,
The BIOS is actually on a flash cip on the Board with a linux
watching you put this new system together, compared to all the old systems, is much different, and much better. I understand the faster rendering with big graphics cards, but having that thing sitting at less than 50 watts is really sweet. which makes everything run quieter, and longer, like in that cheap power supply. I think it is a real winner. I could see you putting tape strips around the perifery of the heat sink, to seal the air leaks, but looking at the cpu temps, probably uneeded.
In what way? I use it pretty much daily and have tried most NLE's and at liked Premiere.the most. Is it just the learning curve or something else? I think sucks is pretty harsh for one of the most reputable NLE's out there. CS7 comes out in may, did you try one of the very early versions?
Have you seen his load temperatures?
Hey Dave, could you do a tutorial on how to set up a proper load characteristics measurement for a PC power supply?
It's odd that there are no heatsinks on those VRM mosfets. Probably best not to overclock your cpu too much.
Great video as usual, nothing like assembling a computer with current generation parts and marveling at the new wizardry.
I would really enjoy seeing you analyze the noise output of the case. Also, you may have already tried this but does the CPU fan fit in its optimal position if you put the memory sticks in the light blue memory ports (A2+B2)?
You know, honestly I wish more motherboard reviewers knew as much about electronics as you do. It really adds an extra level of quality to a review when the person knows what the hell their talking about and hasn't been paid by the manufacturer to say the right things. Really top notch video mate!
I'd say Dave did a bloody great job to say its his first time with a modern day PC installation. I've seen most modern day people install stuff upside down and backwards.
Good one Dave!
is this tower good enough for a gaming pc with a 980 ti and i5 4690 ?
+Jarno Modderkolk It is but your video card is a little bit overkill just use 970
i already got ma 980 ti and its not that overkill most heavy games on 120 fps or so
oh ok :D
can you tell me way intel ivy bridge is 22 nm and amd piledriver is 32 nm can you tell me what 50 mil means ?????
I couldn't help but to notice that the 2 WD Green drives were in what appears to be Netgear ReadyNAS hard drive caddies (thumbs up). Also, does that built-in SATA dock require some sort of caddy or do you just slide in the dive? Either way, its about time that PC case manufactures have such things as standard.
I think you missed a screw right by the power connector?
if i built something like this, could run apple osx on it?
Basic video editing, yes, it's overkill, but I also obviously have to do the video rendering, and that is where the speed is required.
We have the same case! The top-facing SD reader is pretty convenient, but I do have to blast it with an air duster every couple of months. Very nice quiet case though, especially with the water cooling system I use.
Yes. The video editing I do is trivial. It's the rendering that matters, and the video card does not help with that, I've tried.
I really enjoyed that Dave, thanks.
Awesome! I look forward to your cpu overclock and sound analysis videos! Great job.
In your last mailbag you got a nice watercooling system. Why you don't use it ??
Did you ever check your memory speed? UEFI was showing it at 1333 while you have 1600.
12:05 the sarcasm you ooze from your mouth dave is legend :)
I wonder how much of a difference it makes with the RAM properly installed...
why didn't you use that big ibm hard drive you tore down a bit ago as your boot drive
Love it, he's hailing standard features of PC cases as innovations... XD Can tell he's not done this in ages.
What happen to the Industrial PC you scored at auction? Couldn't you just cheap-out a quick video upgrade from that?
I would like to see you talk through a power supply i.e on which each component does, I know most of them caps, resistors, transistors, but few items in it not sure why you have them or what purpose is.
I ground myself by touching the case first, before the motherboard. I never use anti static wrist straps since the 1980s. Never ruined a board. Just make sure I stand in the kitchen on the tile and use a table without a cloth on it. The motherboard bag only has ESD coating on the inside of the bag so I put the motherboard on top of the box it comes in for anti static.
32:00 you install the IO bracket **FIRST!**
It's designed to clip to the case. Then you just slide the motherboard with connectors in there.
EEVblog i hide the wires and cables in the little room behind the motherboard, my friend thought that was the use of the room behind, so i tried to do so. now i don't have a mess in my cabinet and i have better airflow
@EEbolg y dint u use water cooling to make it a bit quieter
+paul moncaster Water cooling isn't needed, and it's excess mess/cost/risk.
+Josh Latham (*Sorry for the ghost post but.)
Sometimes air cooling with really good fans can be quieter than a water-cooler as your not pushing air through a thick rad and there's no water-pump to make noises.
Temps are better on water-cooling but usually only by a couple of ('C). I have a 212 evo with 2 Nochtua fans in Push pull, and at idle temps are 30'C fans spinning at 227rpm which is slow and makes no noise and when on load it hits about 50'C, and only the GPU can be herd. CPU is a 4790k OC'd @ 4.8Ghz.
Argh wanted to see the watts when It was video encoding. Just to see what it uses while working.
Why DDR3-1333 and not 1600 MHz ?
The gap in the front panel is actually for a floppy disk drive if u read the instructions but It is a possible sata dock
can you spray paint a mother board with-all it components with heat Resistance paint
Things I spotted: Way too much heat sink compound, yes use a plastic card. No need to have extra compound oozing out.
Snap the IO shield in to the case, then put in the mobo.
Dave mentioned the power connector not being supported, but there was an empty mounting screw right beside it if I saw correctly. Is that because he only did 6 screws/standoffs, instead of the usual 9?
Thank's for sharing this build!
I have seen this case causing overheating problems due to the noise dempening material packed on it. The heat stuck right in the case. Hopefully it won't bother you..