Speed Painting Miniatures for Warhammer | Duncan Rhodes
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- In this tutorial, we show you 3-speed painting techniques for your miniatures. Slap Chop! Dip! Contrast! We show you how to do each speed painting technique in detail by painting an Ork Beast Snagga for Warhammer 40,000 for each one. At the end of the video, Duncan gives you his thoughts on each, their pros and cons as well as which one is his favourite.
Let us know in the comments below which is your favourite or if you have another technique that we and viewers may found interesting.
Thanks for watching.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:08 Dip Technique
06:20 Contrast Method
11:08 Slap Chop Method
15:34 Final Thoughts
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Hi Duncan! First of all, great videos, I watch them like I eat Schokobons (never ending) and it's quite meditative. One thing I would have liked to know from this video is how much time exactly the different speed painting methods took.
Would have loved to have seen Oil wash done as well!
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Oh yes, my speed painting technique is “spend a month working on one model at a time with paints and washes, even contrasts, for it all to be a sad imitation of the ‘Eavy Metal team’s box art, and then feel both accomplished and depressed that I may never be that good”
It’s my tried and true method.
That's the best method. You do are accomplished.
Gotta find your own style!
@@SpoonyBard88 Exactly! "Faint Heart ain't never done filled a flush!" xD
Well if you're going for eavy metal washes and contrasts will only hurt you. Their crisp highlights are very opaque paints with tons of hue steps
Good. Man.
One time when my mom was on vacation she found a Games Workshop store and bought me a box of Ork Boyz. I used an airbrush to prime them white and she’s been having an absolute blast painting them with contrast paints. She loves Orks and can’t get enough of her Boyz, and contrast allows her work to actually look pretty good all things considered.
Dude your mom sounds fantastic
You re the luckiest man alive my dude!
Cool mom
Gonna need to see some pics mate
I have been using what the kids call "Slap Chop" with inks for about a decade now, and I love it. It really comes together with some highlights after! The biggest advantage for me is that my eyesight is getting worse (I have been painting minis for 40 years) and the extreme highlights from the drybrushing really helps me see all the little bits on the model. Thanks for the video!
I've been using dip for years (I do several hundred minis per year for a variety of games, and I don't do painting competitions). Like everything, it takes some experimenting. You need to have white spirits on hand over time to dilute it and keep it fresh. I suggest using a bunch of torn up (not cut!) paper towel bits once you dip to draw out excess pools of dip, etc. I definitely suggest adding a few highlights, and particularly metallic highlights after flat coating, etc. Like everything it requires some work, experimentation and practice to get it down to a simple and reliable method. I will also say that for slimy/sticky/icky creatures (plaguebearers, for example) it's absolutely brilliant. I don't flat-coat stuff like that and they appear glossy and slick and nasty. I also let the dip remain heavier on dirty stuff.
There you go folks, some great advice from an experienced 'Dip' painter. Thank you for sharing 😊
good advice. Thanks
The dip method shocked me, it was my favorite of the three. I totally didn't expect it to turn out so great.
As someone who has always struggled with getting stuff painted traditionally, my discovery of "slapchop" has been game-changing for me.
I had a huge pile of grey and black primed orks and had been trying everything to get them done. Even bought an airbrush thinking it would help! (It didnt)
Painted up my first set of Beast Snagga boyz using slapchop a couple of weeks ago and the whole process was just so relaxing and enjoyable with completely decent results! Its not going to win any prizes but my god is it close to the models I did traditionally (Base, shade, re-base, highlight) that took me 10x as long to paint!
I was taking weeks of several hour sessions just to get 10 boyz painted up. Now with Slapchop Im getting 10 done every 2 sessions of about 2 - 4 hours a night, and I can kind of just relax with it while watching videos and not be super hyper focused on small edge highlights etc.
I've heard people think badly of it, but for me its been a game changer!
I use an airbrush instead of drybrushing, and it saves a ton of time. Took some time to get the right pressure and acrylic ink, which might've been your problem.
@@Lanessar8008 airbrush your shadow tone and your mid tone. Dry brush the high tone (the white in these examples). You get incredible volume
As long as you are happy with them, that's all that matters. Don't let naysayers get you down. Find the technique that works for you and go nuts! This it the first time I've come across the SlapChop but I think I shall be using it on some models going forward.
Totally agree man. I first tried slap chop a couple of months ago. Game changer for me. The results are just too good for the amount of effort required. I find it so weird that people rag on the method.
@@Denbot7 it gets hate because it isn't Instagram 'high art'. Perceived as lazy or by-the-numbers. It's true in a sense, but we should paint for ourselves first. Others never.
Yay new Duncan Rhodes video🎉
I would add a fourth method: oil washes! It's kind of a combination of the three, as you paint it up first with bright colours using any method (I like the underpainting/slapchop/grisaille), cover it with a oil wash in an appropriate colour (or several different if you want to be fancy, letting oils mix can create really nice effects and transitions super easy), wipe off the excess and let it dry. It seems daunting at first, because it's a different medium and all, but it's really easy and fast. You get the same level of forgiveness like dipping, since the wash will cover the darkest parts, but better highlights since you control where you wipe off the excess. You also don't need a varnish if you just let the oil dry fully, which I think is a nice bonus. The downside is that the oil can take a long time to dry, but that's not a problem if you have several projects on the go at the same time or limited time to paint every week or so.
Good to know that!
My scale model soul aches whenever I hear someone refer to the decades old concept of underpainting as slapchop :P Great video as always duncan!
Yes, it is a decades old technique. I remember seeing GW way back using inks over white primer. Great technique but not new, just updated a little 😊😊
100% agree. Not new but has a new and silly name
tzeench told me it was always slap chop, and now i don't know what to think.
But if you tell a novice miniature painter to google 'grisaille' or 'underpainting', they'll get a lot of confusing information which relates to fine art and advanced model painting and uses materials and tools that won't be relevant. If you tell them to search for 'slapchop', they'll find exactly what they need.
Great video. Only 1 correction. Army Painter did not "pioneer" dip about 15 years ago. A lot of us starting dipping before that. It began with chestnut colored polyshade wood stain from the hardware store. You can still buy it there and it's much cheaper than the Army Painter version. They were just the first to realize it could be marketed to miniature painters that didn't know others were doing it already.
People need to see this, we used to do the chestnut wood stain dipping in the early 2000's and I've heard people do it as far back as the 80's, and it's soooooo much cheaper than the stuff marketed to miniatures painters, with the same results (as far as I've seen at least).
I still recall in the late 90s hearing friends calling dipping the "Michael Jordan technique" because you just threw the miniatures into the bucket of wood stain container, fishing them out later
I swore by Minwax Polyshades Antique Walnut and Tudor Satin for my early dipping days. It's hard to find nowadays, but ACE Hardware seems to consistently stock the small jars of Minwax Polyshades. Just FYI for anyone who is seeking this product today.
Yea I remember buying woodstain for that as well. Back in the good old cmon-times
@@pizzalord3n I remember the threads about this one early on Dakkadakka, and the tricks to get the excess dip wash off of the minis.... T'was a simpler time, back then: Payne's gray watercolor washes, edge highlights galore, black gesso priming, watching zenithal priming/underpainting just beginning its reign...
I've been experimenting to great success with combining Contrast paint with Tamiya weathering powders, giving it the same treatment as a dip almost. It's extremely fast and easy and make the models less 'pastel' and while giving them a great finish.
I read this comment and went looking up Tamiya weathering Master products... my wife then looks over my shoulder and sees one of their sets and goes "hang on a minute, that's a make-up kit!" And turns out they kind of are
My favorite is using either airbrush or rattle cans to first put down black primer then do a misting of white over top or at an angle. That way, you get the same tonal variation but without all the drybrushing, so you can avoid some of that texture.
Bonus Tip!: After trying literally every Contrast green color, my absolute favorite Ork skin tone is Plaguebearer Flesh followed up by Biel-Tan Green. That gives such a beautiful, rich tone to my boyz without looking too cartoony or over-saturated.
it's honestly a magic combination
as a new painter, this has helped me immensely, I really appreciate the simple break down of the three different stys. one day ill try the dip method.
I find "slapchop" when you do the undercoat with an airbrush creates shockingly smooth highlights with contrast/inks.
Your dipped model came out way better than I expected. Might need to experiment with that technique
Just getting back into the hobby after 20+ years. Bought a kill team box and tbh was never any good at painting so slap chop has been really interesting to me as an easy way to get something looking decent. Really happy to see you do it as I love your videos.
Dip method used to be my favorite and I still use it for certain hordes, and i think the most worth it would be slap chop. It looks amazing for the amount of time it takes
What a great video for new folk and old masters trying to finish all that grey.... :) thank you Duncan.
The new Imperil Fist contrast actually works really well on large spaces
I agree, though I find it not very good at adding shading, you really need another yellow like Iyanden for that.
Awesome. I'll give it a go 😊
@@madmerlinsart Imperial Fist is one of the new contrast paints that only use one pigment instead of two different pigments. The paint not being a strong shade is on purpose
@@butcherbird5148 ah I see. I really should read articles fully instead just the paints and what they can do 🤣
@@madmerlinsart I bet you could get better shading if you use a slap chop approach but use brown primer and khaki colors up to a pale sand for the dry brushing.
I absoltely love the third method, both the easy of application and the results!
Yes like you Duncan if it were me painting them fast I'd go for the Dip Method and leave them to dry in a well ventilated area, as this I find enhances the tones as air flows freely over the mini's.
I gotta say the initial drybrushing technique for the slap chop method looks like a great way to paint a stone statue
I think speed painting is fantastic if you play. For me personally it’s not a worry of mine i just like to paint them. I recently painted Guilliman and I spent nearly 55 hours getting through it and it came out fantastic. Your face painting tutorial was a huge help
best side by side tutorial ❤
This was a fantastic video! I think Speed Painting is an extremely good skill to have. Not only does it teach you time management, but it also teaches you and forces you to learn new tips and tricks on doing certain elements of a model. I started doing slap chop because I think it really does get the result that I really like and it does look fantastic. And you can still do the HQ units still all classic and super super nice. Might have to try the dip though based on the result that I saw there!
I came back to mini painting after 25 years, when I won an award at the age of 16 or 17 for my Kharn the Betrayer. Man, the landscape has changed since then. I just ordered the complete range of Vallejo colours and so far I am really happy with them. Still waiting for the Express colours to arrive, so I can try the slap chop technique. As of now, getting back into painting has already given me dozens of hours of meditative fun and I could not be happier with my decision. Thank you for all your advice.
Great video thanks for sharing your thoughts on the different methods … I had heard slap chop mentioned in other videos but this is the first demo I have watched on the method. A trusted source, thank you.
This is video has been vey helpful for me as I plan out my feudal guard army, definitely going to use the dip method for the rank and file infantry!
I've been out of the painting gig for close to 9 years now. I've always sucked at shading and highlighting. I did both Blood Angels and Grey Knights (and started on a space wolves army) with the dip method to great success. I was thinking about trying the slap chop method now that I resumed painting. However, you have convinced me to stick with the dip method. It works great with space marines as long as you watch the larger flat areas for pooling. I did find a great way to shake off the extra dip is mount the mini on some blue-tac stuck to a dowel. Then insert the other dowel end into a drill. Then you dip your mini, turn the drill on low, and it spins all the extra dip off.
I really like the bright, almost cartoony look of the "white" prime and contrast approach. Fun and colourful, very cool. I have never tried SlapChop, you've inspired me. Great video Duncan, thank you.
Thanks a lot for this video, I am a beginner and the dip method which I tried two times until now is awesome!
Thank you Duncan for these three. My self I use a mix of those three and some for my style of speed panting of my orks over the years. I use what is called Slap chop on a unit. Then I use washes for the blocking of the color. Next, I go back threw with a more solid color and contrast on solect areas. From there to tie the unit together i will do something like a dip with a lighter tone. I was able to get out over 400 orks in a week for a large Apoclips game i was in a few years back.
I like that Slap Chop method the best. That Orc looked like a Supermutant right out of Fallout 3. Love it!
Very informative. Thanks Duncan. Always appreciate your videos!
love this style of video you've done with the close ups. YOU ARE HUMAN AFTER ALL!!!!
I have to say that slapchop for me is my go to method of speed painting. The work is done for you in the dry brushing before you apply contrast and I like the style that is produced from that.
Awesome video.
I moved to slap chop for my speed painting six months ago and have never looked back.
These instructions are so detailed! ‘Remember to breathe in and out while painting’…
I've always liked how Dip looks after it's all dry and cleaned up, but I generally don't use it because it's not water-based. I've done a fair bit of work with Contrast/Speed Paint since they've come out and I like the vibrancy you get with them over the washed-out slapchop look. It's always easier to dull the contrast paint down with a wash later than it is to brighten them back up in my experience.
Great video! I’ve been using slapchop for a few weeks now and i agree regarding the pale tones. In fact, when i paint flesh tones i usually start with a warmer tone and use a contrast approach in lieu of a slapchop.
I'm more or less new again to painting and I tried out a little and right now I'm doing slap chop method and I really like it. I'm not looking to become a pro-painter but still want my figures to look good.. and so far I'm satisfied with what I see. I also cannot spend tons of hours for painting. So it's amazing so far.
I really like the result on the DIP model. It being ready for subsequent upgrades to the paint job later is a big bonus too. I may have to try this method some time.
I used slap chop for my Into the Dark teams. I modified it a bit and used my airbrush for everything but the final white which I dry brushed. I'm really happy with the result. I do want to play around a bit with colored undercoats versus the traditional black/grey/white.
Great explanation. I think i'll give a try to the dip technique for my army.. Many thanks!
Loved the video. Slapchop is my favorite method. I've had success experimenting with the undercoat like using ivory instead of white for my Orks. It also gives me a great start so I am more confident going back over the model for highlights and other more advanced techniques.
I will have to give the dip method a try. As a new painter my best results to date were with the slap chop method and classic method following your Deathwing outrider tutorial. For fast and forgiving slapchop has been good to me. Thanks for the great videos.
I've been using the dip since Army Painter released it. It's so, so much smoother than floor stain/polyshades/etc and absolutely worth the difference in price. Also: I dipped a model exactly one time as demonstrated. The other several thousand models I brushed on the dip with a large, soft brush; it's so much quicker and easier to batch paint (especially when painting large units of historicals). Because of it's cohesion, it works even on flat surfaces like space marines.
Painting the Kruleboyz as my 2nd AoS army, slap chopping 20 gutrippaz makes it goes really quickly !
Great vid as ever. Really breaks them all down.
Brilliant. Contrast is great, dip is ugh, and slap chop is queen.
A greatly informative video. I personally would love to see speed paint tutorials for newly released models in the future.
Very helpful! I've never watched a video about the dipping method despite seeing the product around for some time. Thanks
WOW, amazing comparison. DIP technique yields really better results than I thought. UltraMatt varnish was the key here. Great contribution
I would suggest applying the Army Painter dip with a ruined brush rather than dip them and the base into the mix. Gives you some semblance of control over the whole process. Also no need to shake the excess off so less chance of splattering the furniture with woodstain varnish. You can also use classic kids watercolor brushes for this, the ones with black plastic hairs. Also if you need to take a break stick the brush into water as the dip and water wont mix it will keep the brush from starting to harden
Slop chop is my personal favourite. With some blacklining and a little bit of work to make flat surfaces smooth you get very nice results. THen you can go and refine things further or just live it like that. Thanks for the video!
That song in the background during Slap Chop rocked! 🤘🤘
Ty Duncan!!
I realy like the dip method, was intrested in that army painter product. I will give it a try for sure! I will also try out the slap chop to see how I manage it.
Ty again!
Great video for people starting out. One thing to note for those interested in AP Quickshade is that you can also fully use it with a brush. While we tend to see that more on smaller minis (epic or with FoW for example) it's fully functional with larger stuff like Warhammer minis. I use it on my bases which are sculpted from Greenstuff, textured paints, and bits and gives it a lot of protection.
I am in the middle of moving house right now, so painting is not an option but I look forward to trying the “slap chop” method. One of the things I struggle with is discerning the different parts of the model at times. It appears that the initial dry brushing steps really help increase the contrast and make things stand out so well! I have been happy with using contrast paint already and had been often using the method of painting a light base colour and then using the contrast paint, but I think the slap chop is going to be a game changer for me.
Thanks for this!
Nice explanation of each has inspired for future projects. Cheers Duncan 🤘
Great comparison and vid as always!
Thank you Duncan for your nice helpful videos!🙏
I've used the dip-method mostly for my boardgame-minis like the ones for Talisman - with good enough results. Good you mention that the contrast method ist not that forgiving and therefore does not always speed up things. One advice for conterast painting is consider your brush size. The larger and more flat the surface is you paint the larger the brush is I use to avoid 'scratches'
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I was using slapchop for a while and it suited me but I recently decided to bite the bullet and get a cheap airbrush. I now do the monochrome bit with the airbrush zenithal method and then contrast paint the colours in. Leaves a much smoother finish than slapchop but just as easy in my opinion (so long as you are willing to invest in an airbrush).
Thanks that is exactly what I was Looking for!
You are so great, thanks
Been painting and playing Warhams since '98 and only today did I learn about "Dip". My first reaction was "Like chewing tobacco?"
Slapchop was a genuine gamechanger for me. Even though it's not quite as quick as the other two methods, the results - for me anyway - are consistently, infinitely better.
I've painted pallid hand death guard with the dip method and I'm a big fan. I basically prime the model white. I color in any green should pads, gold trim, and black or silver weapons. Then I dip and give them a matte spray. It's really easy and they look fantastic.
Awesome video
Thanks Duncan
The dip method is my favorite. OCD prevents me from playing with unpainted models so speed painting is a must
I have tried the second version and Duncan is right, it takes an age because the overlap is a problem you have to slow right down to avoid (or spend just as much time fixing). I've never tried slapchip but I want to so I picked up a box of Ork Boyz as a nice test group to see if I can replicate it and how I like it. All in all I'm just super stoked at how the hobby keeps changing and how so many different ways to do the same thing crop up. It's always so nice to have choices :)
Thank you for sharing this, Sir Duncan....... That DIPped Beast Snagga ended up looking 🔥, so I might have to give that a go.
Great video. I am dipping myself in Slapchop currently and it really helps me finish my armies :).
Enjoyed this video.
I've used dip before but found it went everywhere so I ended up using a brush to apply it. I was really pleased with the results and it also gave a good protective layer on the models - the only downside was the mess it created when working with it - needing white spirit to clear up.
Merry Christmas mister Duncan! Blessed be your whole new year with happiness aplenty, good health and many thin layers of everything nice!
The slapchop method is something i'm gonna try out since to me that result looked the best.
Long time player, so i've done my share of speed painting. I love it. the 24 hour army challenge in a WD from like 2002/03 was awesome. my mates and I copied it as kids, albeit smaller scale.
Amazing video, thank you Duncan. I would love to see a video with the slap chop method taken to the next level with finer detail to see what can be accomplished. I've not tried it out myself as I'm not sure about the grain finish with the end result.
I love that you compared all 3 methods. I think that speed painting should be rather forgiving, and I agree that slap chop is the best for that. And it yields a decent tabletop standard fast.
Contrast looks so good. I'm gonna keep that in mind because I like vibrant colors for my Thousand Sons.
Thank you! New painter here. Started last Friday. That last method is really cool! ❤
Awesome! Thanks for watching
I've seen a few people recommend an artist acrylic for the white drybrush of slapchop because the higher paint quality helps achieve smoother drybrushing which helps with the transitions. Also having a nice soft drybrush also helps with this.
Anything titanium white works, even model paints. Monument has a titanium pure white, as well as AK and vallejo. just don't use GW.
Amazing video with great insights!
Great video :) a friend of mine use only dry brush as technique and his minis look so cool on the tabletop
I really need to test this Slap Chop method, it seems quite the right approach to some of my backlog... Thanks for this video!
Duncan seems like a really nice guy. Refreshing videos, dude!
Good to see someone recommend AP dipping cans!
Thank you for this video! I recently picked up my paintbrush again about four months ago and I am always looking for new techniques to try out. I think each method is a good one but it just depends on what you are looking for look wise. I might try the “slap chop” method on my next Malifaux crew because I want that gritty look.
Of the three that you profiled in this video I prefer the slap chop method even though I paint my models I unassembled almost exclusively. 😊
Another excellent video.
Army painter popularized the dip method, they did not pioneer it, as it has been in use since the early/mid 1980's and was very popular with Historical Wargamers (especially Ancients and Dark Ages). The "slap chop" method ( that is an extraordinarily _STUPID_ name) has been in use since the mid/late 1980's and was known as: sketch/wash; sketch/glaze; or merely "washing" a miniature. ( Been in the hobby since early-mid 1970's so am very familiar with this sort of thing and find it amusing how the wheel is constantly being reinvented. 🎅)
EDIT RE: Historical Wargamers dip method: They used polyurethane wood stain. The intensity was determined by the amount of mixing - or lack thereof - that was done to the stain.
Keep up the good work! 👍👍
Thanks. You are right though, these methods go back some way and most have stood the test of time as they are reliable techniques.
Slap Chop reminds me of the way Dave Andrews used to paint his minis sometimes. ‘Get it done and focus on the twiddly bits’
Very helpful video. Never used the Dip technique. But result looks quite good after the varnish. Never thought about that.
Yes. Once it's matted down it looks pretty good tbh. The nice thing is, is that you can apply a few highlights here and there and it will boost it nicely.
Now that GW have reformulated their shades, you can get very similar results to dipping by blocking in your colours as normal and then applying the new shades quite liberally all over.
The advantages to this approach is that it doesn’t dry glossy, so there’s need to varnish if you don’t want to. Also it doesn’t take 48 hours to dry.
Using this method I painted up 20 Skaven clan rats and 10 storm vermin using skin tones, metallics, brown and grey for the fur and a a dark red for the cloth. Applied the new Agrax Earthshade over the top. Kept an eye on it whilst drying to check it wasn’t pooling anywhere weird. The result looks good and suits a dirty “horde” army really well. To go the extra mile, I could have highlighted the faces but I didn’t bother.
Was just looking at slapchop, definitely thinking of using it for my votann box
I've been doing an alternative to dip, just use a light contrast instead of dipping. Skeleton Horde as an example is basically a dip replacement, with the upside of more manual control over where it goes.
great tip! And it doesn't dry glossy.
One correction to what you said about contrasts. Some of the recent contrast paints are more opaque, like Black Templar, Imperial Fist etc, and go on beautifully over larger armour panels. So they're great for speedpainting marines, tanks etc
I've been using the dip with a few edge highlights after it's dry for a few years now. Mainly cause I like the more natural and not as bright look it creates. Last couple of years been using contrast style paints with edge highlights and really enjoying it now. I just follow the directions on the can of dip and like someone else has said keep some paper towels to get the pools soaked up once it's set for about 5 minutes. Can also use a brush to soak the pools up and use from white spirits to clean the brush afterwards. Kinda want to do a slap chop style and see how I like it.
Seeing videos of Duncan eagers me to start painting again :)
Do it. Grab a brush and have some fun!
Thanks for the tutorial. I like the contrast method the best. With the dip, you have to wait for the figures to dry, then apply the matt finish. With the slop chop, you have to dry brush 3 times before you start painting. I think the contrast method is the quickest. 😎🇨🇦