These haters be putting Rose down when he is probably one of the few PGs that plays defense so well against elite PGs. He may not glamour in stl/game, but defensive effort is there. Underrated, but should not be undervalued.
True facts - Wall didn't even guard rose - wall only scored 7 on rose and 4 assist - Rose was doubled team the whoe night and still got 16 - got 16 in 25 minutes while wall played 39 minutes
John Wall scores a triple double vs former MVP, nobody panics, because its all 'part of the plan'. Derrick Rose makes 1 good layup and everyone looses their minds.
Its not even a question anymore if d rose is better than John. D rose 16.7 Pts 5 Assist 3.5 rebounds John wall 20pts 10 Assist 5 Rebounds. Its been obvious for 3 years that d rose will never be the same and john wall has vastly improved and elevated his game to a top 5 point guard.The question is, is D rose even a Top 10 point guard anymore?
+RosesChrist at least wall can stay healthy. If he did it against the beach that means y'all bench trash af. Talk to me when rose makes an all star team and plays hurt like how wall has been playing this whole team and John still avg 20 and 10(something rose has never nor will ever do)
This ain't me taking away from Wall as a player , he has been incredible as of late, but Derrick is significantly faster and quicker than wall , John needs to learn how to blow buy and get to the hoop and then he would be ungaurdable
+stephen clark Lmao, even before Rose's knee injury he wasn't significantly faster than Wall, but maybe a tad bit faster. Wall is faster than Rose now. However as far as blow by's, Wall focuses on setting up his teammates more than looking in the lane to blow by his defenders. Although Rose has a better handle than Wall especially going in traffic, which is effective in blowing by defenders.
I understand being a fan of a certain player but goddamn the truth is the truth and drose will never regain that 11 MVP form again it's time to be honest and accept that. he's barely shooting over 40% from the field avg under 5 ast a game
+efreshp His field goal percentage is messed up because his double vision from the beginning of the season. Since he's been doing consistently well, he's been shooting a low 50/high 40s. Same with his ppg, apg, etc. At the beginning season also, the offense wasnt focused around him leading to little assists. Just now, he's running the offense but his team is complete shit now so again, no assists. Stats dont tell it all.
+Abdulaziz Ahmed It's Zaza he is missing open lay ups He misses around 4 a game it's that bad. Blazer's have no chance vs the Clips only the Mavs and Grizzles do. All Blazers have is CJ and Lillard. They can not take down CP3 and the Clips.
This comment section lol ... I'm quite subjective, just my 2 cents on everyone's opinion: - longevity is a part of being a good player, don't use minutes as an excuse - I think they'll both make the playoffs. Bulls will get higher seeding - advanced stats are cool, but the ones that actually matter: W, triple double, and 20pt/5reb/10assist - When both healthy, I think Bulls are better - Curry > Russ > Wall/Dam/Lowry (you can scramble these 3, go knock yourselves out)> Kyrie
You know how many people think roses mvp was one of the worst rifgt? Like one of the least legit mvps of this era. Lol. With Keith bogans? You just want to pick one guy lol? That’s like saying leBron won a title with only Mario chalmers! Lol. The year rose won mvp, he put up an inefficient 25 and 8. Very very veryyy good numbers for his age! And great numbers for a starting Pg, and good numbers for an all star even! For an mvp? It’s not like we are talking about some dude who put up 25 on 50/40/90 or something. Dude shot 45 percent FG and 33 percent from 3, jacked up 20 shots a game to get his his 25 points, and his stats didn’t compare to guys like Kobe lebron KD and Dwight who all finished behind him. And that’s only stats. We’re talking lebron dropping 27/8/7 shooting 51 percent from the floor. Granted only 33 from 3 like rose, but overall much more efficient. Lebron also led the whole league in win shares. So aside from stats, lebron and Dwight and Kobe were also all first team all defense. Rose wasn’t any team all Defense. All those guys finished in the top 11 in DPOY voting as well. Defense does have something to do with roses mvp tho! He played for the leagues best defense, and had 3 teammates finish in the top 18 for DPOY. Also had the coach of the year as his coach, and this was a defensive era, many many many playoff games being won 88-84 etc. many games not touching triple digits. It was all about D overall. Rose was an amazing young player, but not close to the mvp. The playoffs clearly showed why. Rose couldn’t adjust. Miami forced the ball out of his hands, and even tho when he passed out it went well for the bulls, he was too immature and selfish of a player to do that all series. He had a lot of help that year, just not the type of help casual fans understand because they weren’t big names.
wait, the bulls didn't make the playoffs that year either? lmao and y'all probs won't for the foreseeable future unless lavine explodes into an all star
+Dude AK one player Bradley beal. Ok. And he's been back for a while. We've missed Butler, obviously rose at times, gasol a few, an Allstar center in joakim Noah, great 6 man in mirotic and much more. Yet were in the same boat as you guys? Don't tell me wizards are truly better than then the Bulls overall.
+Naruto's Pupil lmaooo the Wizards were one of the top injury plagued teams in the nba this season.. Uhh beal, Anderson, humphries, nene, Neal all missed significant time this season..
Wat kind sick person r u. Wat kind of person waits for someone u haven't even met to get injured. Talk all shit to d roses face then Wat would u do.... Exactly nothing he'd beat ur bum ass no having life ass up.
Damn Wall outplayed Rose for once even though Rose didn't play many minutes due to his groin probably and them getting smacked, my Bulls have the worst perimeter defense especially on the fast break they could keep up with the wizards pace and wing shooters.
Are the bulls even contenders anymore this year. Its sad to watch their losses. Like I'm not even kidding I feel like stg is slowly thinking about killing himself
The worst thing about all this is not even the Ls that we're taking now! But how the front office are handling the coaching situation! And that's because Hoiberg was hand-picked by the front office themselves. So us bulls fans gonna have to deal with shit whether we like or not. And pretty soon they will start the rebuilding process rather than just getting rid of the coach. Just so they don't look bad as they are the ones picked Hoiberg themselves! It's only getting uglier for us bulls fans.
+Mozilla Chrome Mark Jackson! See what he did with the Warriors?! He could do the same thing with the Bulls based on the roster and few super star players like d.rose, Jimmy, Holiday and McDermott.
The Bulls aren't fully healthy and the Wizards are both not really in true playoff contention hmmm I wonder what team is truly better ***cough*** bulls****cough****
Real 1 lmao stay crying ya baby hahaha Wizards killed the Bulls and Wall killed Rose. lmao derrick rose only has 1 triple double in his entire NBA career. stop
+TheButler DidIT o doubt they'd give it to the bull tho. They probably give it to goldenrod state if they could or give it to Lebron to help him win another ring tbh
You don't see Rose get outplayed by the opposing PG like this often.
Rose: 16pts 4ast 3reb (7-19FG)
Wall: 29pts 12ast 10rebs (11-19FG)
+Hoops I Did It Again Forgot Wall 8 pts while Rose was on the court
+RosesChrist shut up
+RosesChrist would you stop damage controlling. The Wizards crush the Bulls. The John Wall a triple double.
+Hoops I Did It Again correction my fired
22 points 8 assist 7 rebounds against bench players
7 points 4 assist 3 rebounds against Derrick Rose
emberbender so John Wall had just as many assists and rebounds as Rose did his whole game haha
I can't believe such a talented bulls team missed the playoffs man. Shows how important chemistry is.
3:20 dam rose u still my MVP
John Wall hit the 2k moves at 6:20
My two favourite PG's
These haters be putting Rose down when he is probably one of the few PGs that plays defense so well against elite PGs. He may not glamour in stl/game, but defensive effort is there. Underrated, but should not be undervalued.
I like Rose better but Wall is cool too
Wall is the best two way point guard
Trash not better than d 🌹
True facts
- Wall didn't even guard rose
- wall only scored 7 on rose and 4 assist
- Rose was doubled team the whoe night and still got 16
- got 16 in 25 minutes while wall played 39 minutes
They don't know man
TheButler DidIT don't know what?
+TheButler DidIT ik we beat the shit out y'all in the playoffs
+emberbender BUT it took the man 19 attempts lol any other player would put up 25 plus with 19 attempts.
They both took 19 shots.... Rose shot just as much as Wall played 10 mins less haha. Wall shot better with 11/19.
Wiz need a better scoring bench if they wanna go far into playoffs next year
derrick, the best bull to ever play right behind michael
Your words touch my heart and soul!
Rose always outplays the other star point guard even after injuries
+Tam Bradley Not this time
The first Pg that outplayed rose this season!
I'd take rose over wall
Same
+TheButler DidIT W
+Doctor Dumbazz lmfaooo
True
+Doctor Dumbazz 😐😐😐
Wall is the best overall point Gaurd
John Wall scores a triple double vs former MVP, nobody panics, because its all 'part of the plan'. Derrick Rose makes 1 good layup and everyone looses their minds.
3:55 double dribble!
Its not even a question anymore if d rose is better than John. D rose 16.7 Pts 5 Assist 3.5 rebounds John wall 20pts 10 Assist 5 Rebounds. Its been obvious for 3 years that d rose will never be the same and john wall has vastly improved and elevated his game to a top 5 point guard.The question is, is D rose even a Top 10 point guard anymore?
Wall OWNS rose
+Miltonman100 Wall only dropped 8 while Rose was on the floor WALL VS BENCH
+RosesChrist L
Miltonman100 Mad cuz it's faxx
+RosesChrist at least wall can stay healthy. If he did it against the beach that means y'all bench trash af. Talk to me when rose makes an all star team and plays hurt like how wall has been playing this whole team and John still avg 20 and 10(something rose has never nor will ever do)
+Bill Aumoithe man you're acting like Rose isn't a former MVP and a 3 time all star. The dude can still ball
This ain't me taking away from Wall as a player , he has been incredible as of late, but Derrick is significantly faster and quicker than wall , John needs to learn how to blow buy and get to the hoop and then he would be ungaurdable
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+stephen clark Lmao, even before Rose's knee injury he wasn't significantly faster than Wall, but maybe a tad bit faster. Wall is faster than Rose now. However as far as blow by's, Wall focuses on setting up his teammates more than looking in the lane to blow by his defenders. Although Rose has a better handle than Wall especially going in traffic, which is effective in blowing by defenders.
John don't have an MVP Trophy on his Wall like Pooh does :)
this is the first time ive seenjohn wall beat rose like this...
First time wall got the best of him
love both
DRose with only 2 freethrow attempts? Somethings wrong with this picture!!!
they were in Washington
Wall had the better game tonight
Without taking into account the stats... who do you think is the quicker/faster player?
Drise
Wall is faster, rose is quicker
I understand being a fan of a certain player but goddamn the truth is the truth and drose will never regain that 11 MVP form again it's time to be honest and accept that. he's barely shooting over 40% from the field avg under 5 ast a game
+efreshp
His field goal percentage is messed up because his double vision from the beginning of the season. Since he's been doing consistently well, he's been shooting a low 50/high 40s. Same with his ppg, apg, etc. At the beginning season also, the offense wasnt focused around him leading to little assists. Just now, he's running the offense but his team is complete shit now so again, no assists. Stats dont tell it all.
rose didn't deserve highlights
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Who do y'all think is faster wall or rose ?
+Dell Pc23 Rose
rose
Rose is quicker but walk is faster
+Bill Aumoithe wall*
can rose even run now with those glass ankles
2 great players. D wade also
Wall while Rose on the court 1st Q 4, 2nd Q 2, 3rd 2 4th 2. WALL VS THE BENCH
Wall does other things besides score, he had a triple double & it's Hoiberg's fault for resting Rose so much.
stfu stop making excuses wall cook rose bum ass
+Christian Brown stfu kid
Yh Liau know your role and eat rice bitch
+Christian Brown shut the fuck up kid
Nice game.
Speed Beast_ John Wall! #DCRISING
Wall owned Rose haha... 29P 10R 12A #BestPGinTheEast!!
Oguzhan Boss not really
I'm sorry but where did Wall owns Rose ?? can you compare the minutes that wall played for the entire game to Rose
the bulls can kiss the playoffs good by They might have a seat right next to Mavs if we don't pick it up
They still have s good chance for 7 or 8 the Pistons lost tonight too.
That's good though we all know warriors or Spurs Winning the chip this year why not get a lottery pick right?
+Abdulaziz Ahmed It's Zaza he is missing open lay ups He misses around 4 a game it's that bad.
Blazer's have no chance vs the Clips only the Mavs and Grizzles do.
All Blazers have is CJ and Lillard.
They can not take down CP3 and the Clips.
+Abdulaziz Ahmed I knew this would happen eventually tbh we've been over achieving this whole season
Zaza needs to start playing like he was the first half of the season.
How is he missing wide open layup's?
This comment section lol ... I'm quite subjective, just my 2 cents on everyone's opinion:
- longevity is a part of being a good player, don't use minutes as an excuse
- I think they'll both make the playoffs. Bulls will get higher seeding
- advanced stats are cool, but the ones that actually matter: W, triple double, and 20pt/5reb/10assist
- When both healthy, I think Bulls are better
- Curry > Russ > Wall/Dam/Lowry (you can scramble these 3, go knock yourselves out)> Kyrie
John Wall won this duel by a mile but Rose WILL BE BACK....
They weren't guarding each other the entire game. WALL scored most of his points on the bench players 😂
John wall needs a team full of shooters to barley make or do anything in the playoffs. Rose went to the enc with Keith bogans. Enough said
You know how many people think roses mvp was one of the worst rifgt? Like one of the least legit mvps of this era. Lol. With Keith bogans? You just want to pick one guy lol? That’s like saying leBron won a title with only Mario chalmers! Lol. The year rose won mvp, he put up an inefficient 25 and 8. Very very veryyy good numbers for his age! And great numbers for a starting Pg, and good numbers for an all star even! For an mvp? It’s not like we are talking about some dude who put up 25 on 50/40/90 or something. Dude shot 45 percent FG and 33 percent from 3, jacked up 20 shots a game to get his his 25 points, and his stats didn’t compare to guys like Kobe lebron KD and Dwight who all finished behind him. And that’s only stats. We’re talking lebron dropping 27/8/7 shooting 51 percent from the floor. Granted only 33 from 3 like rose, but overall much more efficient. Lebron also led the whole league in win shares. So aside from stats, lebron and Dwight and Kobe were also all first team all defense. Rose wasn’t any team all Defense. All those guys finished in the top 11 in DPOY voting as well. Defense does have something to do with roses mvp tho! He played for the leagues best defense, and had 3 teammates finish in the top 18 for DPOY. Also had the coach of the year as his coach, and this was a defensive era, many many many playoff games being won 88-84 etc. many games not touching triple digits. It was all about D overall. Rose was an amazing young player, but not close to the mvp. The playoffs clearly showed why. Rose couldn’t adjust. Miami forced the ball out of his hands, and even tho when he passed out it went well for the bulls, he was too immature and selfish of a player to do that all series. He had a lot of help that year, just not the type of help casual fans understand because they weren’t big names.
Wizards going to the playoffs next year
A healty team and still NOT making the playoffs !!?? LMAOOOOOO #BULLSareBetter !
Wtf the Wizards were one of the most injury-plagued teams this season.. Beal, Anderson, humphries, nene, Neal all missed significant time foh..
wait, the bulls didn't make the playoffs that year either? lmao and y'all probs won't for the foreseeable future unless lavine explodes into an all star
All the butt hurt bulls fans in the comments lmao
NIGGA YOUR TEAM IS HEALTHY AND YALL STILL NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS HAHAHA
+Naruto's Pupil W
+Naruto's Pupil I hope you guys realize that John Wall is carrying the Wizards. The Bulls are a MUCH more talented team than the Wizards are.
+Dude AK one player Bradley beal. Ok. And he's been back for a while. We've missed Butler, obviously rose at times, gasol a few, an Allstar center in joakim Noah, great 6 man in mirotic and much more. Yet were in the same boat as you guys? Don't tell me wizards are truly better than then the Bulls overall.
+Naruto's Pupil lmaooo the Wizards were one of the top injury plagued teams in the nba this season.. Uhh beal, Anderson, humphries, nene, Neal all missed significant time this season..
just waiting for Rose to tear his ACL again lol
he can barely walk now
irving>rose
Wat kind sick person r u. Wat kind of person waits for someone u haven't even met to get injured. Talk all shit to d roses face then Wat would u do.... Exactly nothing he'd beat ur bum ass no having life ass up.
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Bulls need to just sit butler down,they are terrible on the road
This season was very disappointing
So many injuries but players didn't step Up at all
should of been John wall triple double highlights. rose ain't did shut da whole gm
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Lmao on all the haters, you don't expect someone coming back from the sideline to be 100%. Getting back on the court is easier said than done.
4:02 jimmy butler's stupid face
Damn Wall outplayed Rose for once even though Rose didn't play many minutes due to his groin probably and them getting smacked, my Bulls have the worst perimeter defense especially on the fast break they could keep up with the wizards pace and wing shooters.
+Huey Freeman Wall scored 8 while Rose was playing i would say this was WALL VS BENCH PLAYERS
y'all wont make the playoffs cuz of injury's
U must have missed the rockets game lol
+Miltonman100 Why you say that?
+RosesChrist Still outplayed him
Are the bulls even contenders anymore this year. Its sad to watch their losses. Like I'm not even kidding I feel like stg is slowly thinking about killing himself
Bulls defense got exposed Gortat had a party in the paint gotta do better!!!
I'm guessing the Bulls have no chemistry which isn't surprising. EVERYONE'S ALWAYS INJURED!!!
watched the game, tbh with you, rose could have had a lot more assists. Its just the players can't fking score
kemba Walker better than rose
The worst thing about all this is not even the Ls that we're taking now! But how the front office are handling the coaching situation! And that's because Hoiberg was hand-picked by the front office themselves. So us bulls fans gonna have to deal with shit whether we like or not. And pretty soon they will start the rebuilding process rather than just getting rid of the coach. Just so they don't look bad as they are the ones picked Hoiberg themselves! It's only getting uglier for us bulls fans.
+Mozilla Chrome Mark Jackson! See what he did with the Warriors?! He could do the same thing with the Bulls based on the roster and few super star players like d.rose, Jimmy, Holiday and McDermott.
D rose look like he doesn't even like basketball anymore.
Wizards Still Is Going To Loose In The First Round.
People have said that the past 2 years.
Wall is a team player and rose is the opposite
The Bulls aren't fully healthy and the Wizards are both not really in true playoff contention hmmm I wonder what team is truly better
***cough*** bulls****cough****
Madara or Sasuke?
LMAO Wall killed Rose.
Disagreed
Wall got that trip dub tho
+Chef Curry you're fuckin brainless lmao.
Real 1 lmao stay crying ya baby hahaha
Wizards killed the Bulls and Wall killed Rose. lmao derrick rose only has 1 triple double in his entire NBA career.
stop
+Chef Curry W. Wall owned him
still derrick rose
#bullstankingforingram
Nah the Bulls aren't trash enough to get a top 5 pick and Ingram ain't goin out the top 2 or 3
+Bill Aumoithe we wasn't trash enough when we had a 0.1 chance to get rose in 2008 😴😴😴 NBA rigs the draft
+TheButler DidIT true😂
+TheButler DidIT o doubt they'd give it to the bull tho. They probably give it to goldenrod state if they could or give it to Lebron to help him win another ring tbh
+Bill Aumoithe tf goldenrod?😂
Bulls need to fire everyone lmao
John Wall let Drose look slow
Butler looked tired! Bulls are playing horrible basketball
wall>bum knee rose
Nawwwwwww b
Shouldn't you be in timeout? still in preschool and shit lol
Jimmy Butler made the game worst.
Timberwolvesfuture>bullsfuture
Bulls looking at 2 possible lottery picks next year and cap and a few young players can improve jus saying thou
lazy D...
Both are good, but we all know Ben Wallace is the best point guard of all time