Meet Me in St. Louis (1944) is Depressing...

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  • A look back at this classic holiday musical, and the sadness in how it presents joy
    Footage from:
    Meet Me in St. Louis (1944) - dir. Vincente Minnelli

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  • @chrishelbling3879
    @chrishelbling3879 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Brilliant video. I was told in a screenwriting class: the best movies don't have happy endings or sad endings; they have bitter-sweet endings, because the audience will feel, yes, life is like that.

  • @caseykenreich1223
    @caseykenreich1223 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Just watched the movie. This acknowledgement of both intense joy and intense sadness during the holidays really stuck with me. Also, I remember moving houses at a young age, so I could relate to the family’s concerns about moving to New York. As someone who grew up in an urban area, this is an idealized version of what a quieter, more intimate, and neighborly childhood could’ve been like.

  • @LaurenceDay-d2p
    @LaurenceDay-d2p 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Depressing? The picture is delightful - Judy's songs have become classics. One of the best films ever produced by MGM, the home of classic musicals.

  • @rikp
    @rikp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    IMHO, the saddest thing is that in the real life event it was based on from the author's childhood the family did move to New York and never went back for the World's Fair. The movie is positively uplifting compared to that.

  • @chiara1194
    @chiara1194 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I sang this over the phone to my family when I was in jail and prison. But I was one of the lucky ones, I only had a three year bid - my prayers go out to the inmates who will be there for a very long time. Prison is the WORST for inmates. You’re separated from your family, zero presents (unless some kind ministry decides to donate pre-approved contraband-free gifts like shampoo and toothpaste which are definitely welcome). You get one ten minute call to talk to your family and then one year the older ladies spent days making handmade Christmas decorations and the evil warden came along and destroyed them all saying that it was prohibited religious propaganda. So the words “until then we’ll have to muddle through somehow” carried extra meaning.

  • @hanschristianbrando5588
    @hanschristianbrando5588 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The worst part is how criminally spoiled little Tootie is. When Mom tells her "If I catch you fibbing again, I'll give you something to recuperate from," you think, Yeah, right, lady, you're so strict with her. What will you do, buy her a present? And then when Judy is singing "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" in a lovely soft focus close-up, they cut to a close-up of Tootie looking as if she's about to be sick. And what do you suppose they did with all that ketchup they made at the beginning?

    • @keithabney4665
      @keithabney4665 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Tootie doesn't look like she's about to be sick (!?) and i never gave the fate of their ketchup a second thought. you're grabbing at straws..

  • @anthonyhuenneke1524
    @anthonyhuenneke1524 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    in the original version of opening lines of "have yourself...", after the line you cited that ends "it may be your last," it continues, "next year we will all be living in the past,"which was changed to the more optimistic,"next year all our troubles will be out of sight." i think too that much of the melancholy of the song comes from the contemporary situation at the time of the film's release, i.e., an ongoing world conflict the outcome of which was yet to be determined.

    • @darrelljustice6105
      @darrelljustice6105 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When presented with the original (sadder) version: Judy said, "I can't sing that! People will be going home from the theatre crying." Bless her sweet soul. ❤️

  • @distressedcondiments3113
    @distressedcondiments3113 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ooh, I didn’t know about this! I’ve never seen this movie, but I like to listen to Phoebe Bridger’s cover of “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas” and she uses the more melancholy lyrics. I had thought up til now that she re-wrote the lyrics for her cover. The more you know.

  • @ConradSpoke
    @ConradSpoke 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The nearly naked little girl (just a few minutes in) is the most bizarre "what the hell?" moment you will ever see in an old movie.
    Jaw dropping.
    It would be *absolutely illegal* to film that today.

  • @dixonmusgrove3876
    @dixonmusgrove3876 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great analysis. Literally watched this movie hours ago. We’ve made it a family tradition to watch it around Christmas time. Though I knew the song came from the movie it wasn’t until last year’s viewing I heard the darker nature of Judy Garland’s rendition of the Merry Little Christmas. Funniest part of the movie is how psycho Tootie is. Despite the tragic tone, her killing the snow family is always hilarious.

    • @ronatopaz2793
      @ronatopaz2793 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Psycho? Bi polar. They didn’t know about mental illnesses at the turn of the 20th century where this film is set. These days she would have been dosed with Ritalin as soon as look at you!

  • @peterheimsoth159
    @peterheimsoth159 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's not depressing. Sad things happen, but so do funny things, exciting things, and uplifting things. And it ends on an undeniably happy note (no pun intended.).

  • @topogigio2879
    @topogigio2879 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This movie isn't the slightest bit depressing. It has an occasional bittersweet moment, but you are wayyyy overthinking this. This movie is pure joy from beginning to end.

    • @jasonchambers4495
      @jasonchambers4495 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The main song is literally about mortality.

    • @topogigio2879
      @topogigio2879 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jasonchambers4495 No, it's about Christmas. It's a deeper, richer song than your typical Christmas ditty, but it's still basically about family and Christmas.

    • @kumada84
      @kumada84 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@topogigio2879 You might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong 👀

    • @topogigio2879
      @topogigio2879 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kumada84 You might do the same.

    • @Tolstoy111
      @Tolstoy111 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It has an underlying melancholy to it.

  • @MeadeFatLoss
    @MeadeFatLoss 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't care for musicals, but I enjoyed this one! My Grandfather adored Judy Garland and I find her quite attractive as well. She was amazing in every possible way.

  • @laurapuleo196
    @laurapuleo196 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A nice sympathique movie, and Im sure Breck, Panente, and or Drene shampoo and my favorite is Drene shampoo ❤ and did she try the pool and show quickly after and does every woman shampoo now and man shower from Merlainville!

  • @Diamondstar7851
    @Diamondstar7851 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm always happy to hear someone talk about one of my favorite movies, but this analysis is so surface level it's essentially a summary.

  • @allaboutloveatyutoob2507
    @allaboutloveatyutoob2507 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No it isn't wtf?