China competition latest worry for world’s violin-making capital, Cremona, Italy
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Since the 16th century, the Italian city of Cremona has been renowned for producing high-quality violins. Traditional violin craftsmanship found in the city was added to Unesco’s list of “intangible cultural heritage” in 2012, and students from around the world come to learn the craft at Cremona’s prestigious International School of Violin-making.But the centuries-old traditional industry faces fierce competition from China, which is now the world's leading producer of cheap, bowed string instruments.
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It’s a matter of perspective. If you don’t have China churning out cheap violins there wouldn’t be people learning violins. If no one learns, who will upgrade to a Cremona violin eventually?
exactly thanks to italy and china big love
@Derius Li imagine buying a violin that cost more than what we earn and use
@footballcoreano but not many people can afford to start playing on an expensive violin. Think about it.
@footballcoreano as a starter, people buy cheap first... then when it's getting pro, we buy the best
Italia didn't only produce expensive instruments, they also produced more affordable versions, too. It was China that killed off this 'affordable' range by flooding the markets with dirt cheap violins. Now they are stuck with producing only the best and most expensive.
$28,000 vs $80. Totally different target market. No need to "worry".
Actually, the chinese are creating market for 28k violins. Though it is true that a lot of people in developed parts of the world have been put out of jobs due to chinese competition.
if there is no chinese violen, no one will learn violen because it's too pricey to learn...
Made in china product are poor in quality..😏
siddhartha yadav That's because people in your country can only afford cheap but poor quality goods. You can buy better quality goods if you spend more money. Iphones, DJI and Tesla are also made in China
@@blueredblack7026 even in india .
If you compare the cheap labour between india and china ..
India labour is more cheaper than china..That's the reason why most of the Multinational company shifted their manufacturing unit.
Second thing is- made in China product are really poor in quality.
Thats the biggest reason why whole world blindly believe on japanese product..Because Japanese product are better in quality .
And for your kind information braincells not sell by amazon..You fool.
Alibaba is also a copy of amazon.
Jack ma accepted that truth..
😁😁😁
I think both Cremona and Chinese violins have their pros and cons and one doesn't have to compete with the other since they essentially cater to different people... the more expensive but definitely better made Cremona violins are much more suitable for professionals or more invested/richer hobbyists, while the much cheaper chinese violins is much more widely available for the masses and doesn't make learning violin as daunting of a investment for people who cant afford to drop tens of thousands on a instrument. With the Cremona violin professionals can get the quality they pay for while with the Chinese violins more people can get into playing the violin and learning about how beautiful it is :D
Yes I agree
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The statement I was looking for ♥️
@@tonygoh3465 That has more to do with displaying wealth than discerning craftsmanship.
It saddens me that this is the top comment. Only a capitalist mindset can approve of such a crime.
They are literally flooding the market with a facsimile of a craft that is *their* cultural heritage, to the point where the Cremonese passion will become unsustainable as a lively hood, destroying their way of being in the process. How can you not see that?
It'd be one thing if they were making a nominal amount as an affordable option, but they are bullying them out of their own market with cheaper alternatives,
All I can say is, Chinese violins open the doors to Italian ones. You dont buy Italian ones off the bat, thats a waste of momey. Buy a Chinese one, get used to playing violin, then slowly upgrade. Nothing beats Italian violins when it comes to sound, but nothing beats Chinese violins when it comes to price.
Best of both worlds. No point spending tons of money on something you may not use in the future.
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 Yup
Very sly way of information presenting. When people saw the title and some of the claims in the video, they would thought somehow China are making high grade violins streamlined that compete with Italy at an unreasonably low price. But if you play the violin or know a little about classical instruments, you will see that they are targeting completely different markets/customers.
Didn't got what you said...
But it seems very peculiar
But why made in china product are poor in quality .
Beacuse they use cheap material.
Cheap material come with cheap prices.
😏😏😏
siddhartha yadav cheap price is targeted for poor people so poor people can also afford to buy a lot of goods which they cannot afford without the made-in-China products.
@@julioduan7130 they can afford if we boycott chinese product..
The trade deficit decrease and indian govt will improve the standard of living ..
siddhartha yadav I don’t really think you understand economics. If there’s no readily available cheap products, a lot of people would avoid purchasing an expensive violin for their future (if they hope to pursue a professional career as a musician). That means less demand for the products, leading to less sales. On top of that, I don’t know why you’re so adamant about India this India that but you do understand that there’s cheap labor in India too right? A bunch of work is off sourced to India like call centers so I don’t really understand why you’re so against Chinese off sourced products lol.
If anything is priced at $28,000, I think your chances are obviously small, even cars are cheaper than Italian Violins. You come in the category of Veblen goods.
The ones who buy them are professional
Learned a new word today, “Veblen goods”.
Not to speak about the democratization of violin learning due to affordability... Is this a Chinese thing or a Capitalist thing?
David sew you tell me bro, i want to learn violin, should i spend $28,000 to begin with? My college fees is way less than violins that starts at $28,000
@@Sahil-yc9ew you could start with a cheaper one first then when you start to grow you could buy the ones that professionals use because the violins that are from italy are usually bought by professional players cause of its richer and clear sound plus the age of the wood is also a factor of what most professional violinists use well that is my opinion as a fellow violinist
They should not worry...
Quality is still the deciding factor...
The Cheap Violins are for the kids...
Pls don’t stop the handcraft, the tradition, the passion building violins...
Both markets have their place.
The cheaper Chinese string instruments bring music to the masses.
@blueflame If there is "made in germany" and "made in china" slap on a product you like, which one would you buy for "authenticity"?
Chinese market is middle class mass
While the Italian is high/rich/culturally people
@blueflame People buying $28,000 violins vs $1,000 are completely different markets. A beginner is not going to pay $28k, his target group are professionals. Having more violin players in the world will increase the demand for violins at every price point.
@blueflame so you mean the "price" of instruments will determine how well one can play them? Then Bezos and Gates or even Trump can be better violinists than talented and hard practicing kids from unprivileged families?
The same goes for pianos. You have expensive ones and there are cheaper ones made in China. You buy what you can afford.
@blueflame No instrument on an assembly line would be "better quality." Especially not a violin. There are plenty of 30 and 40 dollar violins and they wouldn't sound much worse than a 250 dollar one honestly. They would just fall apart a little quicker. These markets never ever compete with each other but quality and economic do not meat when it comes to instruments of this nature. The difference in sound is monumental.
Put it this way your a beginner and dont know how to play a violin stick with the cheaper lower grade chinese made violins and if youre a pro and know how to play violins you buy the much much more higher grade violins made from italy
I wouldn’t buy a Benz c class to learn driving. Once I learn the passion for driving makes me to buy one.
@footballcoreano Eh, watch the video. China is also competing with Italy in producing premium custom made violins not those factory mass produced types catered for the more mainstream market. Price wise, country like Italy wouldn't be able to directly compete because the standard of living in China is much cheaper for the most part and most if not all parts to produce the finished goods originated from China in the first place thus a lower pricetag at the end of the day.
@footballcoreano you are clearly a racist full of white supremacy
@@xg3068 lol right and your answer isn't racist at all.
@@World-of-Fireworks no it isn't at all.
@@xg3068 exactly 😉😏
SCMP, it’s the quality and craftsmanship that manners. It’s like comparing a Rolex to a swatch.
Swatch has entered the group chat ....
You can buy a very nice Chinese violin if you are willing to spend several thousand dollars. People act like China is only capable of making products for Wish.
People that want a $2,8000 violin will pay for a $2,8000 violin, just like a person that want a $28,000 watch will not go buy a $280 Casio simply because it's cheaper. It's cater to completely different market, I don't see why it is a "competition".
How many talented, hard-working musicians out there have $28000 to spend on a violin? Most of the ones produced there will end up in the hands of rich people who pretend they have souls.
Violin's and other instruments can cost up to more than 1 million dollars, and as a matter of fact, musicians do buy expensive instruments
expensive:quality
Probably a lot, if that's how they make money. No different than $28k workstation is dirt cheap for video editors, architects, and $28k camera gears is dirt cheap for photographers. Since they can recover that investment in a month's work.
Well put. I just need to find a video where they smash it like you would see on an iPhone ro seen how rich kids spend their money.
@footballcoreano japanese made violin are not cheap.
violinists who play for major ochestras buy these.
honestly i only know Cremona from whisper of the heart
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How many people can afford a US$28000 violin??
Like famous solos that live with it?
Lots of people! You would be surprised. Most of friends in college have violins ranging from 10,000-80,000+ it's certainly not uncommon. It would be rare for a violinist who works at a major symphony orchestra to have an instrument less than $10,000 these days... it's all about the sound!
Almost every student who majors in music and makes a living with it. Ok, maybe 28000 is a bit much, 10000 is just minimum wage if you put in 2-3 months work for one violin. But If you think like the way you do now, then get a machine and replace every artist's work,, every Mona Lisa, or even every piece of song or cuisine etc because you think art is just replicable and mass produced like Teslas, you clearly have no appreciation for the meaning of living in this world, better go to Mars and be a robot. I'm shocked at your level of understanding and maturity if you think like that. Why not get algorithms to do all decision making and replace whatever you do so that you don't have a job anymore?
Think of watches: you have the more affordable Japanese movement watches, and then you have the more expensive, rare, higher status Swiss made watches that fetch a higher premium. Or think of cars: Honda, Toyota, Ford vs. Ferrari and Maserati. As China gets wealthier, it is without a doubt that the citizens would demand more prestige from their goods - importing Spanish/Italian/French wines, buying overseas made equipment (such as a violin crafted by an Italian master with decades worth of experience). All this is to say that as long as they can adapt (i.e. marketing, targeting a specific consumer income range) they will survive - thrive even.
The original won't die.
Ok for how long their are people living from it
It will my dear it will...DIE
Coz when it was Cremona time they were at top and spread teaching, now china has learned so they will make way for cheap so every person can buy who had a dream.
@@crysiishiro you still have to have the right timber
and the dedication and the experience, so no it won't die.
Cremona these days has a boom and a golden period.
No one in their right mind would pay 28000 for a violin. This is why Chinese manufacturing wins
I would do it for a piano double that price.
Professional buy them, do you think the people in orchestra's usually have cheap violons?
Many violin players cannot afford, but if they could, they would definitely buy this violin over anything else.
Once the manufactures of the industrialized west flooded into China and destroyed its craftsmen, its the other way around now that China has industrialized.
That's but people are so idiot that they didn't notice these things
So the west destroyed China's economy with it's industrial revolution?
🤣🤣🤣 c'mon be smart. We're talking about mass marketing and niche marketing. I meant how many China violin had to sell to match with one Italian violin. There is a huge gap between market target. How many musicians can afford to buy expensive instruments? The answer is not many. For a beginner, surely they will buy a cheap one because they didn't have that much money. Also the currency play a huge role. For me, it doesn't matter which product it is, as long there is buyers and consumer's preference, the product would be sold.
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Hmmm....
I n t e r e s t i n g
Study law or medicine 40h/per day, so you can afford an Italian violin of 28000$ 😏😜😅.
What is the music in the background starting around 0:16?
I think they are not competing each other but for whole different market.
I only know about this city because of Whisper of the Heart but it’s still heartbreaking ;x;
Cheap products never last long. Maybe skillfully crafted violins ave different effects from cheap ones.
Price of things changes as time changes. Dwelling on the past is not the best way to survive this dynamic age.
A cheap CASIO watch can last longer than am expensive Swiss watch.
@@xg3068 no lol
@@mist3325 yes lol
@@xg3068 No...
How many people can afford 28k just to learn or try out? Like 2.8k already considered extreme investment for those that is even in the US. In the past violin is made sololy for the elite .... this days as world change people have adjust their mind set. Instead of blaming the extinction on your competition, try changing for a new perspective. Set up a place where people can try your violin out, charge a small fee teaching people to play with the basics, heck maybe even teach them free to encourage them, when you build more interest and people start playing in public place and went viral you will have no shortage of people whom may have the money to spend on the high end stuff inspired by a strong community. Many talented people some sleep on the street simply because they where not given a chance to try.
China is just offering an alternative to people who is inspired to try but don't have the budget. Its the reality of the world. Back in the days TV is considered "elites" only ..... now everyone has a phone. Technology, time and perspective.
Lots of people! You would be surprised. Most of students in college would have violins ranging from $5,000-80,000+ it's certainly not uncommon. It would be rare for a violinist who works at a major symphony orchestra to have an instrument less than $10,000 these days... it's all about the sound!
For 28k violin can even by a car
These artisans-crafted violins are too expensive. Not enough demand market for them and the cost is too high for the average consumers to afford.
Cremona people are trying to show that their violin are best. They forgot when they were on top they started teaching of making violin at high price, so only few can make violins. Now if someone from China has learned the skill paying high price to Italians...
And if that person is making violin in his own country so that many Poor's can buy as a simple gift, which wasn't affordable due to Italian violin.
Now if those violin are made in China, do what's the problem Italian Cremona people... previous was your time now it's of China.
Cremona people are picking out any faults from Chinese traders just to show that their violins are better.
I personally would never try to spend $28,000+ plus dollars for any type of violin.. even if I was a pro and had the money. That's just a insane amount of money for a violin.
Taste is a function of income. People in the higher income group consumes expensive goods. Example is he will choose between Mercedes Benz and BMW, and not compare between the Benz and Hyundai even if the cars have similar features...
If you were a pro, you'd get paid for playing, and $28k can be just few months of work of playing that violin you have, and you won't buy one? What kind of "pro" is that? That's like a video editor refusing to buy a graphics card or pay for software because of cost.
China also makes high end products at low cost.. i'll just buy that and use the THOUSANDS of dollars I saved to travel the world, throw big birthday partys for my kids/family.. and with the other left over money.. when I recover from all the fun and then...................... do it again.
@@candyman111881 yes my friend. I would do the same. These violins are much too expensive for me to buy for my kids too. Stay safe from the covid 19 virus.
That was bcs you are not a pro violinist nor soloist in any other classical instrument, so you cant imagine spending that much money to buy a violin. Just like how athletes and their team are researching the best material and design to use for their costumes or racer for the best machine and technology, eventhough it would only give them a slight difference than the previous ones but it still matters a lot to them.
"I bet the company that made the last buggy whip made the best god__m buggy whip in the world." Danny DeVito from Other People's Money.
You can't expect someone to buy a 28,000 violin, mass production is needed to supply the mass market. The real test is to see who can actually produce the best violins, if the best Chinese violins are better than the best "traditional" Italian violins then they should deserve full credit.
i bought a made in mexico martin dreadnought and its the best sounding acuostic i have ever played.
I wish you would have addressed the quality differences and does 100 times cost equate to 100 times quality difference ?
It does, believe me!
You guys have to understand something, for a musician who lives with his music and for someone famous or who is trying to compete in an international competition 28,000 $ is understandable it's a matter of priorities, they and I would absolutely have that violin (in my case a Steinway piano) than having a luxury car
They shouldn't complain about cheap ones flooding the market though. Since they're in completely different market. The cheap one enable those who are less privileged.
Well, personally, i am so thankful that China made cheap violins. I came from poor family. I had to skip my meals everyday in school to save money to buy a violin and pay the expensive violin lesson fees. I can say I am talented in learning violin but because of expensive fees I had to give up at grade 5 ABRSM with 3 distinctions at Grade 1,3 and 5. Everyone should be able to play music and every talents should be counted. Music shouldn’t be just for rich people. Thank you China for the cheap violins and opened up my music world.
I wish you that some rich guy buys an Italian master instrument
to give it to you as a free loan and pay your lessons.
You more than deserve it!
One day you'll give it back and it will be worth much more.
You'll have made a career and can afford an upgrade.
You know you can *rent* an instrument as well, right?.. China violins are horribly or not at all setup for beginners. Violin teachers are expensive though, but that's gonna be the same for all instruments.
morning post just tried to deliver a nuanced justification for made-in-China products, and how they make our lives better.
Most people on earth can not earn $28000 one year. So it is china that brings pleasure to normal families. you should be grateful . not criticize
This makes no sense, poor people can't afford these violin in the first place. And wealthy people would use these not only the quality but the because of the exclusive high cost branding.
Dude these aren't in competition with each other. They come hand in hand. The higher you go in ability to play, the better instrument you buy.
Typically you would start on a cheap violin that is 1/2 or 3/4 size, then as you get better you get a new violin which is bigger 'full' size, and often better quality.
You don't give a professional a stentor. Nor do you give a child a strad.
No professional would use these violins, simply because *that's not their purpose.*
They are for the people who just started playing, often a teacher at a school may teach a whole class at the same time, and have to loan instruments to them.
Also YES there is a difference between a handcrafted violin and a factory one. The hand crafted ones are checked for sound and use high quality materials. Their purpose is for professionals.
Trust me, no maker in Cremona is worried about Chinese violins, any more than a fine Italian cheese maker is worried about Kraft cheddar cheese.
Remember people! Is never crowded at the top!
As a violin maker in China, I challenge all you Cremonese luthiers. I employ the latest technology to simulate vibrations of a real violin. The virtual digital violin could be generated automatically with self-made software. As a result, I can make the best sound ever in this world. Who assure you the best price without the best sound?
With simulation you are getting nowhere.
Every single violin vibrates differently.
No machine can do what the hands, ears and eyes
of a skilled and experienced luthier can do, EVER!
people pay for the individuality, the identity and soul that comes with every violin. If people think like you, then get a machine and replace every artist's work,, every Mona Lisa, or even every piece of song or cuisine etc because you think art is just replicable and mass produced like Teslas, you clearly have no appreciation for the meaning of living in this world, better go to Mars and be a robot. I'm shocked at your level of understanding and maturity if you think like that.
100 times more cheaper which means 2m the piece of violin ? Is it like a rich issue right here ?
Don't worries, quality never lies. Lamborghini never can't compared to DongFeng😂
This is true, but not everyone can afford Lamborghini.
Thanks China for bring the prices down with everything
I hope Cremona violins survives and serves different parts of the violin market. I like to believe these bespoke violins have more history, character and soul than a mass produced item. Though I would not be able to afford it, I’d like to have the choice.
They already do... or they did.
Increase double or even triple the price, limit the number of production.
I think they should make a cheaper version of it
Manufactured instruments are entirely separate from handcrafted instrument. Just like you cannot compare a mass-produced Honda civic with say, a Koenigsegg Agera... They do NOT compete in the same segment.
Can I compare a handmade rocket to a machine made SpaceX? Is your phone or computer handmade?
Completely different market... If they feel threatened by China's cheap imitations, then they deserve to fail.
Just do your best. There are people out there who appreciate your work of art. If you are thinking of directly competing with China, you are finished. Yours is a piece of Art.
There is a difference between a violin and a violin shaped object - a large difference!
Just make sure your brand is prominently announce Made In Italy many will buy . You can list out those competitors that is made in China we'll know how to avoid buying
chinese one is For beginers and the italy one is For top players. As a beginers, will you spend 28000$ to buy one?
To practice I’d buy a Chinese made one just for price reasons but as a collection or if I’m pro I’d get a Italian one.
You guys think the talented luthiers of Cremona are capable of only producing expensive violins? They also made affordable ones as well but now they are being bullied out of that market, and you guys are applauding it.
With many people learning how to play the instrument then and only then their (Cremona) target Market would increase. Because many will be wanting to have a piece of that master crafted instrument.
Quality is better than quantity.. Although China produces a lot of violins its quality is still not up to par with Italian made
The question is why are they scared when they make more expensive violins? And how is the playing quality on both ends?
28,000 dollars might be a bit too expensive for the majority of people to purchase. It is a sad news till I saw the price. 😂
No need to worry, there always a market for quality or quantity.
How Chinese violins compete in the same market as those craftsman violins witch starts at 28000$ are you crazy ?
Italy is a country of craftsmen? You ever own a Fiat? Gimme a break... ;- )
Tbh should just tailor as a luxary. I used to play electric yamaha, after years got a steinway
Lesson: Stop thinking as if China isn't exist. Don't make an excuse.
I respect this history and craftsmanship of violin making in Italy, but I'll never pay $28,000 for handmade violin. I'm sure rich and famous violinist has no problem with the price, anyone else better go for the Chinese one, value for money.
If I could buy a bench made Italian violin, believe me, I would, but all I can afford is my $2,000 Chinese made Instrument.
It really depends what level you are playing and what amount you are paying for it
🤣meanwhile italy is selling $1 village houses across the country
It's just marketing, a blank field would be a better deal
@@Techonsapevole do ppl actually buy those houses and fix them up?
though i am from china, i support iltay. I,hope more people BUy their products, in partucular the top player. I HOpe These two country find a way to talk with each other and find a way For both to surrival.
Yes
Has the craft not been through this before? For example when the likes of German instrument factories were churning out thousands of Strad copies per year? The cream of the crop should survive provided there are enough skilled people wanting high quality violins?
Wow 50 years
If you an amateur, you don’t wanna play a strad cuz it’s an art piece itself. You don’t wanna risk breaking a strad just like you don’t want an amateur to handle a Monét. The craftsmanship needs to be appreciated by professional plying and careful handling. A cheaper violin built on an assembly line allows you to experiment with it, try different things, learn the basics of how to handle and play a violin properly. Only then will you buy a handcrafted violin or even potentially a strad for that matter.
Oh cool, I get mine made by Stradivarius.
De 28 000 a 2800 dls... voy por un violin Chino.
I'd prefer Italian craftsmanship.
Is that why the Chinese try to buy STRADS ??
Why worries? Chinese instruments are not compareable with those italian luthier.
I’m practicing violin rn lol
doing your daily 40 hours?
Why would they fear competition?
beginners or poor people would be buying cheaper ones, the experts or rich people will be buying the higher quality ones.
How many people will spend over $20000 on a violin when they could buy a brand new car instead? Appreciation for the arts is one thing, that doesn't excuse a total detachment from reality.
Haven't you shilled enough for China today? Even on this video you made several comments basically saying the same thing! A whole bunch of people spend that money on violins, especially of they are musicians and that is how they make their money..they will recover that investment rather quickly! They are hand-made and of the world's best quality, so people who know their stuff will always buy exactly those! You just try to make another lazy excuse for Chinese businesses to steal, fake and cheapen Western products and brands..
@@samuela2593 Because violinists make the big bucks, right? Look up their yearly salary. The average concert violinists make $30000 a year in America, essentially minimum wage. At the 90% percentile for the highest earners, it's still barely over $60000. This is just your beloved capitalism at work.
@@bw1678 Well too bad there are people above your so claimed 90th percentile who do make a lot of money from it like Lindsey Stirling or David Garrett! Furthermore there are several models and brands which are hand-made with a much lower, more affordable prices! The issue here is that violins are Western instruments, just like there are various Chinese instruments! Yet if a Western company went to China, learned and copied their art and then manufactured a cheap knock-off to flood the market with Chinese instruments, I bet I would not find you on the internet trying to defend it! But yeah...its the evil West and its double standards!
@@samuela2593 You see any Chinese person getting angry at western people for brewing tea? And congratulations, you realize there are people above the 90th percentile. Imagine if there was a company that makes basketballs that cost 1/3 of a Laker starter's yearly salary. How well do you think they'll do?
Lots of people! You would be surprised. Most of friends in college have violins ranging from 10,000-80,000+ it's certainly not uncommon. It would be rare for a violinist who works at a major symphony orchestra to have an instrument less than $10,000 these days... it's all about the sound!
just like coach built cars it will eventuality die out and i hope they can keep the sprite of hand made violin on to the next generation.
Don't hold your breath. Violins were invented almost 500 years ago and auction values keep going up.
Lol, it's a piece of wood and with A.I. and proper technology I assume Violins should not cost more than 20 dollars. Everything else is non sense and paying for make up. You will see it, down the road 10 years from now. Imagine how much precision and work goes into making a Tesla car and sophisticated INtel chips? Every move, every line and micrometer of a violin can be measured and with proper technology made without mistakes. This is just a thing of past and these people will be souvenier makes, no one will conside their violins technically superior. This is simply the truth.
The simple truth is that you have no clue.
There will never be a CNC taking over what a luthier can do.
Every piece of wood is different.
You have to have ear and eye and feel for the wood.
No machine will achieve that, EVER!
then get a machine and replace every artist's work,, every Mona Lisa etc because you think art is just replicable and mass produced like Teslas, you clearly have no appreciation for the meaning of living in this world, better go to Mars and be a robot.
WHEN BOTH COINTRIES DENIED MY ENTRANCE, INSTEAD I WENT TO JAPAN AND FROM THERE I NEVER LOOL BACK. ITALY LIKE LIRA LOST UNDER WATER LIKE VENICE. STILL NEED BAILOUT? ASK CHINA
Handmade does not always give the best quality. I don't see a handmade SpaceX rocket or a handmade super computer.
the most wired and bad example for a comparison.... seriously!! you r comparing hand crafted instruments with spacecrafts and super computers??
@@Debarghaya_Mukherjee why not?
Is the space X rocket made of wood and horsehair?
@@charlostainsawshades6962 so?
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Answer my question with some intelligence
Start from chinese violin after you become professional then buy these.
china method is right, they mass produce first, after that they will improve the quality of the product. change the method of producing the violin, many cannot afford your freakin expensive violin. train somebody instead of making it your family secret. only then you can compete with china. they have all the men power they want and they can outsell you instantly. think about young children who want to buy a violin, their parents have to spent so much money because you keep on selling these overprice instrument when they have the far better option to buy dirt cheap violin from china, and guess what? the quality is getting better and better.
The irony in all of this is that the more "learned" Chinese much prefer the handcrafted one... even Chinese prefer to buy non-China made products
the poors cant afford those its sad
I spent $1000 to buy one from China which called high end piece in China comparing the three time price higher in US. The US one is just much worse than the one from China.
‘Prefer’ doesn’t mean ‘afford’, ‘handcrafted’ also doesn’t mean ‘non-China’
American people do not prefer handcrafted computers.
Just like you exported your skills to china, maybe you should go there and learn their skills. It's like Australia selling their agriculture businesses to China then complaining we don't have anough food left!
'Exported your skills'..how did you come up with that? You Italian violin craftsmen voluntarily went to China to teach them? China 'imported' it themselves, to put it nicely! Most people here just try to find another lazy excuse for China to steal, fake and cheapen Western products
China more on a production or quantity even if it sounds like a crying elephant while In Italy more on quality handcrafted with heart and produces more soothing sounds ..
Because white people always blame colored people for their own failure.
@Jeune Homme Jeune Homme is a RACIST .
People cannot tell the blood and sweet of every chinese to globalization....kekw
😂100 times more expensive because one person made it instead of several? and it has "authenticity"? 🎻here, let me play a very small one for u
You are just sad that the west can actually produce quality products
@@lucyporriton6162 😂u didnt watch the video, did u?
好像很牛逼的樣子 The violin is not only more expensive because it was made by one person, it is also expenive because it uses high auality wood, varnish, string, and also because it was made by an expert
@@lucyporriton6162 😂🤣100 times
好像很牛逼的樣子 You just gotta accept the fact that Chinese violins are very bad quality 🤷♀️ deal with it
Let's not forget that as a professional musician, you can spend $26,000 on a violin and get a tax deduction and depreciation on it. If you are someone famous, that will also increase the value of the instrument.
The violins by Cremona and China are for different customers. Who will spend $US28K to buy a violin if this is just another passing fancy or another 'enrichment' class for young stressed kids? US28K is like a buying a car. Unless you are true professional (only those with lots of money to spare) or uber rich most people will buy cheaper violins regardless where they are made. I will wary of belittling the Chinese's tenacity and capacity to learn and to improve their goods.
Italian violin or Harley Davidson?
this is industrialization
If I was a millionaire, I would prefer buy $8,000 German made violin from the 1890s than buy new Cremonese violin.
*IMHO
I don't think they were better back then.
Factory made mass production.
Germany in the 19th century was, what China is now.
China's formula for almost everything, "faster and cheaper"
Our country is too suffer from this