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On the first point - my mom told me that when we were growing up she would always try to compliment our creative projects by saying "Wow, you worked so hard on that!" instead of "Wow, you're so talented!" to reinforce the idea that she was complimenting our effort and dedication rather than some magical quality we just 'had'. Thank you for sharing!
Studies have backed this up. It's called the 'Locus of Control'. A bunch of kids were given problems to solve. They all solved them because they weren't all that hard. Half the group were told they solved them because they were talented. The other half because they had worked hard. They gave all the kids a new set of problems to solve, this time a bit harder. The kids who believed they were talented underperformed. They basically didn't know how to raise their game other than by trusting in their talent. The 'you're a hard worker' group just knew they had to try harder.
My experience growing up is kind of the opposite to yours. I was the talented musician in my family ('in my family' being the important relative term here) so I never really got that far with music. Now, I'm a passionate writer who was never given any potentially harmful encouragement. As a result, I write all the time and discover cool channels like these because I don't believe I'm 'better' than anyone, just 'unique' and dedicated to improving.
Sounds a bit lame. Our parent's praise is about the only we have any reason to expect in life. Why deny your child that.
The emphasis should ofc be in encouraging the child. Maybe it's a language thing (I'm from the Netherlands) but my parents would just give an enthusiastic "That's great!" Or "Well done!" Possibly with some pointers, but usually they'd have suggested/discussed ideas for improvements in a fun way during the project.
Never did they try to deflect truly qualifying the end result by either going "look at all the time you put into that😅" or by the also not so helpful extreme of implying innate talent.
One devalues the end result, the other devalues the effort.
Instead they were honest, but encouragingly so. They didn't have to lie to say some crappy kiddie artwork was great. It was great because they weren't comparing it adult work, but to that of my age group and specifically to my own progress.
Reading bad books it what's made me want to write...
Only one small note: don't write for your professors and other writers, but don't write for your readers - write for yourself, write the book you want to read, and think how to find your audience after...
but what is a “bad book”? I’ve seen people refer to some great writers as bad writers who wrote/write bad books.
@@ottz2506 Writing is an art and a craft. The craft has rules. The art is knowing when to apply them.
You can love and enjoy a bad book, and still know you are not reading a masterpiece.
If you read without thinking about the craft, a bad book is when you find it boring, or characters unlikable, or it doesn't really make sense and gets confusing or irritating...
If you read that book with an editorial eye, you'll see why that is... oh, they didn't set this up... oh, that's headhopping... omg, stick to a tense! oh, they said the character is smart, but so far they were not able to follow simple instructions - show, don't tell! oh, they didn't think through the implementation of xyz...
May I add an 11th point?
11. Thinking you're stupid.
In my case, I often feel that I'm not good enough to be part of a writing community or that mentors would be wasting their time on me. Low confidence can kill your incentive to work hard and learn or accept criticism just as much as thinking you're the smartest person in the room.
dam homie
The moment I started telling myself that I'm a good writer was the moment I was able to take criticism seriously (with only a small amount of sadness). Because I was being encouraging of myself, I felt like the criticisms were no longer saying "why are you trying, just stop" and instead were saying "you're getting so close to amazing, this is how you can get there!"
Thanks so much for mentioning the 5 vs 10 year plan. I've had a huge struggle with impatience as the years keep ticking by, but I'm glad to hear that 10 years is a reasonable expectation...!!
I wrote a short story in the Fall of 2015. The novel length version is expected to be published in Fall 2025 😏 it can be done, just do it right!
Reading/writing romance will help me the most since that is my weakness. As an asexual I lack the attraction that normally compels people to act romantically and brings them together, that's why it is so hard.
It is like trying to write about an emotion you do not have, nor are able to experience.
I don't have five writing friends, and I have written and published (and sold) books. Don't let a youtube guy tell you that your career will be over for some random stuff. If you like it, you'll keep at it. If you keep at it, and keep trying to improve along the way, you will be fine. Fundamentally, the only thing you really, really, really need to listen to here is to be persistent. Keep at it. You only lose when you stop for good.
I don't have any writing friends 🚩
Same here! So hard to find. Let’s buddy up
What do you write?
That's rough, buddy.
I have Discord.
As a British person I cannot understand the concept of "not" repressing emotions. You sound insane to me.
😂😂 Scottish too.
I'm not British, but i get It as well, my parents were harsh
Be smart enough to realize you don't know everything, and act accordingly.
"The only true wisdom comes in knowing that you know nothing, So Crates"
"Dude... that's us!"
@@TheDevinMT Party time! Excellent!
@@TheDevinMThad I a senior quote in high school, this would’ve been it.
Related to thinking you're smart: Don't assume you can only learn from writers who are as good or better than you. Chances are, you will always find some benefit in sharing your work with reasonably like-minded readers who will catch stylistic flops, structural issues, and other key problems in a manuscript. Unless you're far into a career, with published works at your back, even beginner-to-intermediate writers can find issues you will miss.
Great point. Because people are always better readers than they are writers, so you can always learn from an outside perspective.
Do you count as a writing friend? Are you our mentor? 😂
Excellent advice, and your delivery is stellar and engaging.
Mistakes? I think I've made all of them.
Patience? I'm 75, and don't have time for patience!
One piece of advice my father had told me (and it does apply to most things in life, but he told me it specifically in relation to writing) was:
"If you find yourself wanting to just finish your book, then you must stop writing because as soon as you stop enjoying the process, you begin to put in less and less effort and ultimately you lose the passion you once had."
As someone who can get impatient very quickly and is easily stressed, it definitely stuck with me and made me more conscious of how I view my work.
This was aces. Pleeeease make a video on creating a 5-year writing plan? 🙏
I second that. Also how to add 5 hours to my workdays. 😂
Yeah this would be amazing! What does a 5 year plan look like? A 10 year plan?
The bad books point was a massive thing for me. I would have never started writing had I not read bad stories. It really drove my desire to create something different than what I read.
I don't have five friends, much less five writing friends. I sort of have an online mentor. But she's busy writing a five volume series we're waiting for her to finish. And I've been writing since I was 12. At this point, I'm not entirely sure I want more than a handful of readers. But I have two nice reviews on the six volumes that sold ...
I am glad I learned to take good constructive criticism when I was younger because when I was in my early twenties, my assistant manager where I worked took me aside and pointed out where I needed to improve. It wasn't until a few months after when I had implemented the changes that he came back and told me I was like a different person in the role and that I was close to being fired for not doing my job properly. If I'd dismissed him and not taken anything he said on board, it would have been a completely different ending for me.
You are so right about reading bad books! I love reading local amateur writers who self publish. It’s so much fun finding all 10 of the “10 most common mistakes new authors make” one single book! 😂 having said that you can sometimes find an amazing story hidden in there amongst all the clunkiness.
John, I've recently started watching your TH-cam videos, and I am soooo much enjoying them! Your content is excellent, your passion engaging, and your authenticity refreshing... Keep going! You're an inspiration!!! :)
Loved this! For #4, would you consider making a video explaining further the difference between how feedback from other writers is different from feedback from readers?
...I need a writing group! And to read a bad book!
Me too
Excellent advice. Thank you.
I'm lacking the community and mentorship, that's why I'm here watching your video! =)
I started writing ~5 years ago and am polishing up my first novel--took a long time to learn how to actually tell a story. I'm almost 40 yo and understand the long game: I write almost every day and need to set those 5-year etc. plans to be sure I come out of it with something to be proud of--but something at all, like a book(s) people can read!!
Are you me?
I gonna have to say two things, for me every time I try to make writing friends it turns out to be a toxic personality, they don't like my writing and start to say bad things about me.
I saw a lot of writers being narcissist thinking they are better than the other so no it's not a red flag.
When you say having a mentor you are also saying have money and this is not something that people commonly have so consider it as a bad advice of your part
Who the hell has writing friends?
*raises hand*
who the hell has friends?
Writers
This might be more common for webnovel circles, but one of the greatest pushes I got when I started was joining a creators discord. Interacting and connecting with other writers online was a massive help for me.
But also, I have no 'in person' writer friends.
"these 10 mistakes will destroy your writing career." As a writer, I like big words too but to use them in a sentence you should probably know what they mean first. This is probably just your business school showing, because in that field you are doing everything right.
point #1 while I do see how knowing that I am smart has made me not work hard in the past, I still know I am and I have found somewhat of a balance between self-love and working hard to achieve my goals that has left me feeling more fulfilled.
hindering my ability to take criticism: I do acknowledge that taking criticism is hard, the key is to see the person who is giving it to you as a person (even if they seem less smart than yourself.) And if you need to, step away and come back to the criticism later when you've cooled down and can actually see it for what it is.
hindering my drive to read: this plays into the next one so I'll be brief, while I don't read as much as I'd like to the reason isn't because I think I'm too good for it.
hindering my ability to learn from others: Part of being a smart person is continuing to learn, there's a really good saying I learned from my dad. "The more you know, the more you know you don't know." There are so many things in the world and you can't be an expert in all of them, but there are experts in even the smallest of sub-genres (to use a writing term) and you can learn from those people. Not to say you can only learn from experts, idiots are some of the best teachers to learn how NOT to do stuff from. With the added bonus of having to figure out how you can do it better, oh look at that very similar to your 5th point.
Sorry if this came off as condescending, that might actually be a valid flaw of mine.
What if you are in a writing group with people who are ambitious, ready to learn and even have a good network, but within that group you are one of the two most succsessful yet?
You are such a wonderful mentor ❤❤
The bad book point always stumped me though since every book is going to be someone’s “bad book”. What a bad book is seems to be subjective so I wouldn’t even know what to do with “read bad books” advice. And if the advice giver gives me some suggestions, all they’re giving me is what they think are bad books. Then there are going to be hundreds of people who would disagree and even more who say that the suggested “good books” by the advice giver are actually the bad books.
You might try books that average 3 stars. There's bound to be some "bad book"-ism in there somewhere.
@@5Gburn but someone might say 'well this book isn't a bad book to me and doesn't deserve 3 stars' though. I'm trying to see how advice can actually be applied when what is deemed to be a bad book changes depending on the person.
@@ottz2506If you read a ton of books-which you absolutely should do-your instincts about what works and what doesn’t will kick in.
@@nathanisaksson I've read tons of books. Books that have been praised as classics or given prominent awards, which still people have said are "bad books" and some who will say they're good. Books that people claim pushes misinformation and others claim it presents accurate information.
It's sometimes amusing when writers themselves give this advice because, to me, it comes across as if they're saying 'read bad books because if you do, then you'll be as good as me, a writer of objectively true "good books"'.
@@ottz2506 All I can say to that is figure out which books you think are bad, then write a good one.
plan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :
Year 0 ( 2024) ; finish planning + Character developing / arch stuff, ✅start work on the first draft ((doing now))
Year 1 + 2(first ish half) (2025 +2026); finish writing the first draft of my comic script
Year 2 (latter half) + 3 (2027 + 2028); Refine the first draft of my comic script and start work on character designs, Hopefully finish the comic script
Year 4 + 5 (2029 + 2030) ; Finish character designs, start work on the comic, hopefully finish the first third
Year 6 + 7 (2031 + 2032); finish the second third of the comic
Year 8 + 9 (2033 + 2034); Finish the full comic.
Year 10 (2035); Try to get this abomination published; after come up with a new brainfart of a story, then rinse n repeat !!!
good tips I have a few to work on but I never thought of myself as smart emotions are one of the things i write well internal conflict brought on my life going wrong is at the heart of my middle grade novel
1. lol'! Smart? I have a lot to learn and I need all the help I can get. 2. I've cried, laughed, became angry invested in my story. Wait? What am I doing? This is fiction? Right? 3. Writing a book isn't going to make me millions. I'd be happy with dental implants and Lasic eye surgery. 4. I write for everybody and anybody who wants to read. 5. Read bad books? OK, I know not to do that. Still, respect, we're all learning here. 6. Want to be my friend? 7. Thank you for your video mentorship much respect. Want to be? Ah, never mind. 8. I've been called "tenacious". 9. Slow and steady wins the race. 10. Same genre? That's my mistake. 😮 ooops! Thank you for your video. Your name is Brian Fox? I really like your channel!
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What does a 5 year plan or 10 year plan look like? I'm sure it's not just a list of stuff to write? Like what does it actually contain?
So I'm fucked because I don't personally know a bunch of people who who also write? That's sad. I was hoping all the online information out there would suffice. I prefer to write in English, but I can't go to conventions in Britain or the US, because I live and work in Norway, and my time is limited.
Paul Auster died recently. So sad. But which book were you talking about? I really liked 4321.
Jesus, you are right. I'm gonna abandon my dream. I dont have the time nor the endurance to do it
I am not going to follow a lot of your very good advice. Everyone else can do that. And like you say, there are millions of them. I’m going to write what I want and if someone else happens to like my writing then great and if not, everyone else’s loss. But I still found your enthusiasm and encouragement really helpful.
Crap, red flag. Writing friends? I don't even have reading friends. Would love a mentor a fellow Perthling would be best.
Another problem, I struggle to find the time daily to write but I am working regularly every other day, writing, plotting, editing.
haha i have no friends so i have no writer friends......i will work on that lol
What is the worst Paul Auster book you can recommend?
I really liked the New York Trilogy, but really disliked Sunset Park.
Any suggestions on bad books to read?
Guy N Smith!
True thing: readers are smart.
1. I am smart, not going to listen further
@bookfox put mistakes list in your video so I can skip to parts of video I find interesting. Not going through 7 minutes. Like your content otherwise.
Anyone wanna be my writing friend? 👀
You talk too fast.
Compared to many other TH-camrs he's a real slow talker.
If you click the Settings on the video, you can slow the playback speed down...!
@@Fyrsiel Thanks!
I love your videos, they are so helpful. Great work