How Big Can You Make a Passive House?

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  • Exploring how big you can make a passive house. To get an Autel MaxiCharger for your EV, go to: amzn.to/3NbEFRn. Recently I’ve talked about the new net zero, passive home I’m building, but not all net zero buildings have to be homes or houses. The same net zero, passive house construction principles can be scaled up to large buildings like offices and apartment buildings. In fact, I had a chance to visit the first net zero energy hotel, that's going to be passive house certified, in the United States. There are some really creative concepts at work, and a few that really surprised me.
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    01:59 - Hotel Marcel's History
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  • @UndecidedMF
    @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Would you want to see your apartment building or office retrofitted like this? To get an Autel MaxiCharger for your EV, go to: amzn.to/3NbEFRn.
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    • @ThisIsGoogle
      @ThisIsGoogle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cum

    • @adus123
      @adus123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes these types of buildings waste huge amounts energy. Making them more efficient will be a huge benefit to the environment.

    • @hawkeyes4768
      @hawkeyes4768 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this guy u interview
      actually took time and learn the different faucet of the building and actually knows what he was talking about
      threes usually a big disconnect between Architects and engineers when it come to technical things
      very cool

    • @sfnyc
      @sfnyc ปีที่แล้ว

      I must premise that it's 3 years old but when I recently came across this video th-cam.com/video/lL6uB1z95gA/w-d-xo.html as soon as I got 1/2 way through, I became instantly very very curious to get the opinion of @Undecided with @MattFerrell,
      Material for a new video to come in the near future perhaps? ;D *hint-hint*

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to do a story on restoration ag, Mark Shepard and the Savannah Institute. His methods greatly reduce the amount of CO² conventional moncultured, synthetic chemical ag normally loses with annual, bare earth, dead-plant fallow practices. His methods actually sequester a large amount of carbon deeply into the soil instead of losing it to air compared to conventional, annual ag while producing food and livestock feed.

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 ปีที่แล้ว +862

    Even though that elevator is more efficient, I'm sure the technology still has it's ups and downs.

    • @jasonritner9662
      @jasonritner9662 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Boooo!
      I love it...

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +313

      😂 I can't believe I didn't make that joke in the video. Tip of the hat to you.

    • @terryharrigan6324
      @terryharrigan6324 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@UndecidedMF I'm sure you will "rise" to the occasion in the future.

    • @vermontsownboy6957
      @vermontsownboy6957 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      You just had to push our buttons?

    • @yonaalter
      @yonaalter ปีที่แล้ว +45

      You'll take it to a new level.

  • @SaveMoneySavethePlanet
    @SaveMoneySavethePlanet ปีที่แล้ว +390

    What I like most about this is that the hotel was a retrofit on an already existing building.
    I was reading a study the other day by a group in the UK. They found that even making sure that 100% of new builds are Net Zero won’t be enough because most of our emissions come from our already existing buildings. So we have to aggressively pursue retrofits like in this video on all buildings if we want to hit our Net Zero goals!

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +63

      👍 Retrofitting is key.

    • @SaveMoneySavethePlanet
      @SaveMoneySavethePlanet ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@UndecidedMF yea I’m currently working on my own video on that very topic. Feels like our governments aren’t giving enough attention to the need for retrofits.
      Like the guy in your video implies: it has a very steep upfront cost (although it does eventually have a payback). So currently it’s just a handful of people who really care that are going through the trouble. That’s where government legislation and subsidies can help push more people to do similar projects!

    • @rutessian
      @rutessian ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How much would that cost? Are there enough materials to do it with existing technologies? How much would China have to increase their emissions as a percentage of current ones to compensate for your efforts? How long until you realize you're chasing a dream?

    • @richardfranks2831
      @richardfranks2831 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From the standpoint of the previously emitted carbon versus new carbon emissions from new builds, we have to make many more of these old buildings work for longer. It just make sense to reuse viable structures.
      Also the disruption of new build structure with pile driving and traffic associated with a tear down and rebuild is way more disruptive than shipping in additional material to retrofit in urban areas.

    • @manipulativer
      @manipulativer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      net zero is also achievable by depopulation if you look at bill gates formula.

  • @solorund
    @solorund ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Digital electricity in concert with DC power is a concept I have never heard of, and it just blew my mind. I would love an entire video on this!

    • @LumenCache
      @LumenCache ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We've been doing it since 2012. We were also WAY too early at the time! 😀 Now it all makes perfect sense to everyone.

    • @ovi9610
      @ovi9610 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      More videos on this, please

    • @remotecontrol1082
      @remotecontrol1082 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes please!

    • @xxwookey
      @xxwookey ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@LumenCache When I looked at this a few years ago the conversion/standby loses in the POE power units were significant (because they are sized to run the whole house and are always on). It was much more efficient to just have one CC LED driver per room (well, per switched circuit) with a few lamps on each. Standby usage is zero because the driver is actually turned off. One decent driver (as opposed to one cheap and nasty driver per lamp) is efficient and reliable. Maybe POE has got better, but at least in a domestic setup the always-on nature is a significant structural disadvantage. POE wiring is enormously flexible of course, but also expensive in comparison to dumb lamps at £5 each and drivers at £10. So that's £20-35 per room in a domestic setup. A single POE lamp costs more than that. I'd love to hear that this stuff was reasonably cheap and actually low-power by now.
      Hmm. I've just watched your video and it is a really nice system, which can use any lamps I like. And I can have a CC string or some parallel CV lamps. So whilst it's POE it's not using the (rather wasteful) 48V POE spec directly. But that flexibility costs money at $66/104 per switch, $36/24 per driver and $420 +PS for the system. And I'd like to know what the standby consumption is. So my house would be about $1500 vs the $340 it costs me to do it with mains and one driver per circuit. OK cabling is about £150 whilst it would only be £40 for lumencache, so that's a $130 saving. i.e lumencache $1550, conventional $520. So approx triple the price and higher loses (but maybe not excessive) for the flexibility.
      Also not available in the UK. And do you not have string-pull bathroom lightswitches over there in the US? I guess with 48V there is no need. But it would be great if you did some UK/Euro style switches. There's a big market your US-only switches currently preclude you from.

    • @garrettmillard525
      @garrettmillard525 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise!!

  • @Enn-
    @Enn- ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Dryers using heat pumps are available. That's what I have in my home. It uses less power, and has no vent. Rather than generating hot air to increase evaporation, and vent all the humid, hot air, it condenses moisture from the air onto the coils, which then drains away. I'm sure a commercial use version can be found or made. Hopefully they could have their current dryers retrofitted.

    • @ericwebster6911
      @ericwebster6911 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Seems like this would be a huge energy saver especially if it can work with those commercial dryers.

    • @MoeBabaloosh
      @MoeBabaloosh ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's pretty cool. Is it more time-consuming than a traditional dryer's "fully loaded at high heat" cycle?
      I wonder if the traditional dryers were selected due to their speed.

    • @darksunrise957
      @darksunrise957 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MoeBabaloosh Well, he seemed surprised that the dryers used more energy than the whole rest of the building, so he might not have thought of that when installing them. But even if heat-pump dryers might take longer (which I don't see WHY they would; a large enough heat-pump could compensate for any kind of heat demand. It would just cost more), I'm sure a project this green-focused could find the space to add an extra machine or two to recoup the productivity lost by the slower machines.
      This also assumes the machines are run 24 hours a day. If they only run for a fraction of the day, a slower machine could be allowed to run for longer; just using up the otherwise unused operating hours.

    • @Lastings
      @Lastings ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@darksunrise957 condensing dryers take longer, don't dry quite as well, and don't have the wrinkle removing qualities of heating dryers. But I think they could do a two step process of doing mostly condensing drying and then finish them off with hot air from heat pumps.

    • @GeorgeBurkhard
      @GeorgeBurkhard ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@darksunrise957 They do actually have to take longer because the colder the air circulating in the dryer, the less water the air can hold, so the evaporation rate from the wet clothes goes way down when you're using cold air to dry vs hot air. That's actually one thing most people get wrong - heat doesn't dry things; it just raises the vapor pressure of the water. It's the air movement that moves the moisture away, so to dry things you need heat to get the water into the air, and you need new dry air to replace the humid air you just made. The condenser isn't the limiting factor - it's the air temperature. Driving the condenser harder would just make ice on the coils, but wouldn't dry any faster.

  • @mikepetersen2927
    @mikepetersen2927 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I think a hotel is a great showcase for this kind of tech & execution. It demonstrates what can be achieved without significant lifestyle changes on the part of the guests/residents, which would make adoption that much easier. If you can make it work in a hotel, you can probably make it work anywhere.

    • @Brurgh
      @Brurgh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      likewise with office buildings! implement and iron out the creases with commercial then transfer to residencial.

  • @RetrOgre
    @RetrOgre ปีที่แล้ว +18

    HVAC Engineer here. The Swegon ventilation system, using heat recovery is basic stuff for buildings in northern Europe. You would not get a building permit without it.
    Same thing for the heat pumps and PV-panels. Interesting to see that you are watching this as something new and innovative.

    • @PaleGhost69
      @PaleGhost69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Murica, the best country in the world.
      /s

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Europe is way ahead of the US on these standards, so it's still very new/novel here.

    • @RetrOgre
      @RetrOgre ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@UndecidedMF Good to know. Kudos for the owner of the hotel. Its good to see that he had everything under control and could monitor everything in his phone on the spot. This is something that stood out and not every owner is this informed.

    • @teranova5566
      @teranova5566 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This guy from Sweden is far too optimistic. I lived in many houses in Europe, mostly central and none of them had ventilation with heat exchanger. And it is a pity, because if it is so popular in Scandinavia why are you not selling it in mass to be the rest of Europe?

    • @travisdudley4520
      @travisdudley4520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As an HVAC controls programmer in the States it's definitely frustrating how common it is to see new projects using non-energy-recovery systems. It should be a no-brainer, but it's just not. 😞

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym ปีที่แล้ว +2

    skipping the DC/AC/DC conversions is really great move!
    Lots of energy is saved this way (when it's produced or retrieved from storage in DC). Most appliances either internally work on DC (and have convertors inside them), or can work on both AC & DC either directly or be easily modified to do so.
    It's great to see it implemented, especially on a larger scale like in this hotel, rather than just a home.

  • @jasonritner9662
    @jasonritner9662 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Literally about to drive past this building on my way to a jobsite today. I didn't know it was being converted into this. That's fascinating!
    Such a unique looking building.

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You should stop and pop your head in for a quick look around.

    • @jasonritner9662
      @jasonritner9662 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@UndecidedMF I think I might, I need to stop by the Ikea next door anyways lol

    • @streetwind.
      @streetwind. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's a great example of brutalist architecture. Not actually derived from the word "brutal", but rather from the French term "béton brut" ("raw concrete"). Hence the stark, intentionally unpainted concrete exterior.

    • @hongotopiadada7574
      @hongotopiadada7574 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@streetwind. I´d say i's Bauhaus! but that a good fit as well

    • @streetwind.
      @streetwind. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hongotopiadada7574 It may well be both! Buildings are allowed to have elements of multiple styles :)

  • @100const
    @100const ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Passivhaus standards are based on KW/sqm so the larger they get the easier it is to comply especially if you have a large block which will have very little exposed area ( i.e. Zero heat loss on adjoining walls). The challenge is making a small detached Passivhaus

    • @johnt5222
      @johnt5222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The "PROBLEM" is making small detached Passivhaus ... Is so much more inefficient.

  • @henryweidenhammer1036
    @henryweidenhammer1036 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Stayed in the hotel, the technology works! so quiet, best nights sleep ive had in a long time. thers alot of reasons to say that, but for me, the biggest part was: the room is silent, you can hear virtually nothing. after that comes perfect temperature, perfect indoor air quality. Thanks so much Matt for doing the review on this, please post more updates to this place when you go back! Can you talk more about ERVs: Recovery wheel (like the hotel has) and the plate (like you showed in the CGI demo)? whats better?

    • @pacificlion
      @pacificlion ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ARE THE WINDOWS OPENABLE

  • @daemenoth
    @daemenoth ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The whole cat5 and cat6 wiring is an incredible idea. I hope that becomes the standard because it would sure make things much simpler in homes.

    • @MathieuDeVinois
      @MathieuDeVinois ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Until the moment all the things aren’t compatible with (old) cat 6 anymore and therefore one is forced to change all CAT 6 wires with the new CAT standard ;) except of that it’s indeed really awesome.

    • @TheFPSPower
      @TheFPSPower ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@MathieuDeVinois That's not happening in the next 2 decades, networking standards last an incredibly long time and new CAT standards are already compatible. CAT6 is already overkill for IoT so they are set for a long future.

    • @Renegade605
      @Renegade605 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MathieuDeVinois CAT standards are backwards compatible. You could still use Cat3 today if all you needed was 10 Mb/s (more than enough for smart devices).

    • @mixamun
      @mixamun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would be nice if this became more standardized and popular in the market. Right now there are companies that do it but its not the most friendly system. If your lighting company stops supporting the trendy poe light product 3 years after launch because its not selling... what do you do when if fixture dies? Are there "friendly" to use residential use POE supplies/control boxes? I messed with this stuff commercially 3-4 years ago and dealing with Cisco network equipment and their support was a pain in the ass. (i think this was UPOE+? 60w per port)

    • @Renegade605
      @Renegade605 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@mixamun this is why you should insist that smart devices you buy are able to be controlled locally. No cloud service for someone else to shut down and brick your devices.

  • @latsword3513
    @latsword3513 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hands down one of your best videos so far and for someone who loves this channel, that's a big deal. I spent many years working in commercial construction and now work in the energy sector. It's great to see "blue sky's" thinking coming down to Earth.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed I hope we get many more videos like this in the future, especially now that travel restrictions are back to normal for the most part!

  • @gibsongb8938
    @gibsongb8938 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Would love to see this development for public schools and universities, POE everything is genius!

  • @paulogden7417
    @paulogden7417 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Matt this is one of your stronger efforts to date. A very thoroughly designed retrofit and a great template for the hospitality industry. I love that he found space for 1000 SP’s on the property, love the power over Ethernet, inverter cookers, batteries, insulated windows…wow, so many details! I wouldn’t waste time moving weights on and off the elevators. I agree with comments that he needs to add heat pump dryers to complete the picture. And offer incentives to his guests to arrive via EV.

  • @ericwallhagen3146
    @ericwallhagen3146 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The second you showed this building, I was like "wait, I know that one..." I've driven past it a million times over the years. Cool to hear what's being done with it!

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the same exact thought when I first heard about this hotel. 😂

    • @vermontsownboy6957
      @vermontsownboy6957 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was exactly my thought!

  • @sickjohnson
    @sickjohnson ปีที่แล้ว +14

    09:00 Bruce said all the rooms run 100% out door air...that is unbelievable as other than hospitals or a Vega Casino every other place runs at the minimum standard of 10% fresh air because of the massive costs. Now some newer systems like cool beam tech cheat this math like a crooked accountant because they reduced the size and volume of the supply air system down to about 10% of the normal and don't run a return air mixing system, they just exhaust. Matt it looks, you chose an exceptional property to cover for your channel, truly impressive!

    • @WolfgangFeist
      @WolfgangFeist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's unbelievable... because we are so much used to these high-energy-loss fabric, taht we just can not "imagine" that almost all of these losses are ... losses! And are avoidable losses.
      To realize this is actually the key for any solution: If you reduce losses BY a factor 8 or so, heating/cooling demands are reduced by this factor. AND, simple consequence, the small amount of fresh air needed ... all the sudden will be just enough to deliver the heat (or remove the heat) still needed. We can even afford to increase fresh air a bit (because of the heat recovery), still don't add much losses AND improve indoor air quality also by factors (really not less important in times of high viral loads).
      This way you get a lot of additional extra benefits (not just reducing energy bills; the noise reduction is another one; ...)

  • @philipbaptie605
    @philipbaptie605 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Incredible. A genuinely futuristic hotel thats essentially created a benchmark for design and redevelopment. Thanks for the top quality production as always Matt 👌

  • @koiyujo1543
    @koiyujo1543 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Kone powered elevator is nuts and I love how they made this building in such an amazing unque way and the guy himself Bruce he sounds pretty cool and saying that he's passionate about what he does is more of a reason we need more people like this!

    • @MasterBlaster3545
      @MasterBlaster3545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most lifts have counterweights which makes the motor doing the stopping and starting. If you take them away then it would make the motor work harder on the ascent. This would negate any power gained by using brakes instead.
      Counterweighted lifts are about as efficient as the lift can be made. If there is a gain it would be so minimal as not to be worth it. The CO2 to produce a lift with that much technology would take decades if not longer to ever make back.
      Physics is physics.

    • @komfyrion
      @komfyrion ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MasterBlaster3545 I have not looked this up, but I would be quite confident that it has counterweights like any elevator and uses regenerative braking when the elevator is loaded and descending, since that is a scenario when you need to use braking to control the descent as the weights are out of balance. A regular elevator would just use regular brakes for this, dispersing the energy as heat in the elevator shaft and/or a service room on top of the shaft. That is the lost energy you are adressing, plus the possible use cases for energy storage. It could be that this elevator uses regenerative braking for stopping when asending as well, depending on the speed you are going and how fast you need to slow to a stop.
      It seems very plausible to me that a regenerative brake system can make up for its cost in energy savings over time. At the fundamental level you are just running an electric motor (something you necessarily would have anyway) in reverse.
      Yeah, physics is physics, but clever engineering is clever engineering.

  • @jeremygreenwood8501
    @jeremygreenwood8501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruce Becker should get a Nobel prize for showing how this can be done. Many thanks for telling us about this project.

  • @draco_2727
    @draco_2727 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Matt, this is an amazing tour, props to Bruce and his vision 👏

  • @johnbrant2454
    @johnbrant2454 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I got an architectural degree in 1972 and wanted to work on projects like this, but there was little happening at the time. It was too early. I am so happy that it is becoming possible now. By the way, I have had solar on my home since 1995. We love it!

  • @gabrieldemourae
    @gabrieldemourae ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've been following this channel for around 2 years now, and I have to say it's one of your best videos ever, Matt. Very well put together, the hotel deserves congratulations too, and deep enough to make us feel the difference it makes to try to be as sustainable as possible. Congrats all the way from Brazil!

  • @gregorykeating4195
    @gregorykeating4195 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is my fave of all your great vids! Practical and implemented vs possible but yet to be achieved. Love it!

  • @johnnypops6430
    @johnnypops6430 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is amazing! So inspiring to think that these ideas are not limited mostly to single family homes but are cost effective enough to work for businesses!

  • @filuo9058
    @filuo9058 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Since I've learned about passive housing, I was really excited. Actually, this video reflect a idea that I had that it would be really incredible to build large apartment buildings with passive housing principles. Between a hotel and a apartment building, except for a few differences, it pretty much comes down to similar things so this video really proves that not only it can be down but it would be a big improvement on quality of life for aartment renters and owners.

    • @LumenCache
      @LumenCache ปีที่แล้ว

      Apartment owners and MDUs is one of our main market focus. We can give them reliable smart lighting and more without all the security and wireless connectivity issues of mesh systems. No need to "just add more nodes" in an already thick soup of colliding signals.

  • @billoconnor1601
    @billoconnor1601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    probably your best video to date. crazy innovative repurposing! luv it.

  • @Zappygunshot
    @Zappygunshot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this guy. It's clear he doesn't know all the technical details of everything in his building, but instead he hired the right people and put his faith in them to get things working. He listened to the professionals, which is the only real way of achieving something as technical and interconnected as a large net-zero building.

  • @Russellsouthey
    @Russellsouthey ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is such a good example of "where there's a will, there's a way". Fantastic video! Well done. This should be standard viewing for every sustainability doubter.

  • @sp276
    @sp276 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing information. I really enjoyed the presentation by both of you. This concept makes me excited for what is to come. I look forward to more presentations about this topic.

  • @waynewallace10
    @waynewallace10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, would love to see an episode just on wiring DC LED lighting using power over Ethernet, seems like this could become more common and even work in residential.

  • @Mranshumansinghr
    @Mranshumansinghr ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I was waiting for!! Wow! More please!

  • @__-pl3jg
    @__-pl3jg ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I have a special kinship with experimenters like this gentleman. Im about to retrofit a residential home and have been wondering why no one inside the US is manufacturing vacuum insulated panels for residential structures yet. After doing some research it looks like I can make my own panels for this particular project. There are no examples online explaining how the panels are made or how to install them on residential structures so I've already got some materials arriving in the mail this week to practice making some small scale VIP's and test their effectiveness against closed cell polyurethane foam and fiberglass. Some times you've just got to experiment yourself to see if an idea is viable.

    • @Cynthia_Cantrell
      @Cynthia_Cantrell ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I suspect the tricky parts will be making sure it maintains a vacuum for 20 to 30 years, and making sure no one sticks a nail through it to hang a picture!

    • @__-pl3jg
      @__-pl3jg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cynthia_Cantrell - Yes exactly. Someone needs to make a puncture resistant panel with the VIP inside. For my particular project it wont matter because its my house and i'll be careful. And the way Im going to install them it wont be too difficult to replace if/when they fail. Im projecting my panels to stay sealed for 50+ years.

    • @osc3892
      @osc3892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well if you do this, definitely make a video about it. I've wondered as well, but my guess was that material science wasn't there to maintain a passive vacuum for years

    • @Cynthia_Cantrell
      @Cynthia_Cantrell ปีที่แล้ว

      @@__-pl3jg Interesting... sounds like a serious challenge. Stainless steel could probably do that, but it would be ungodly expensive! If it works you should get a patent!

    • @BobHannent
      @BobHannent ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Double glazing is a good example of why Vacuum insulation is a bad idea for fixed structural elements. It's hard to maintain a vacuum, and even if 'most' glass panes don't fail regularly, you only need a couple to fail to lose that insulating value.
      Structurally insulted panels with PIR are comfortably available where I am, but also there are insulated renders for retrofit on brick structures. Attaching PIR panels to the exterior or interior is relatively easy.

  • @svOcelot
    @svOcelot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fabulous video, Matt. Thank you for this. There's SOOO much to learn here, & this industry is changing so quickly.
    We live on our cruising sailboat, currently in the Philippines, so we have to be very energy efficient. We generate all our electricity with solar, & we converted to LEDs many years ago, but I hadn't considered the PoE advantages before. Very cool!

  • @danparker8254
    @danparker8254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it’s awesome that you go out find these things out for yourself and us, and share them with the world.

  • @victoarino
    @victoarino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt please make a video about digital electricity in general.... That blew my mind. It really is an amazing solution for the AC/DC "problem"

  • @eaaeeeea
    @eaaeeeea ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Seeing that KONE elevator makes me incredibly proud of Finnish innovation as a Finn. Not only that, but in my experience they are most consistently comfortable, quick and reliable to ride on (looking at you, OTIS, Schindler, ThyssenKrupp). I've followed KONE's new tech from time to time, but this energy generating elevator was new to me and indeed something else.

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love seeing this kind of innovation. Europe has A LOT of companies innovating in this space, which is very cool. That bit where Bruce blew my mind in the video was at the very beginning of my tour. I found it funny how Bruce was basically throwing that nugget of information out there like it was no big deal.

    • @hoekbrwr
      @hoekbrwr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UndecidedMF In my time at work(15 years ago) those inverters were already standard. In fact I made a drive for a gas compressor that delivered energy to keep the total plant at Power factor = ONE. All because the power feeding cable cable to the plant would otherwise have to be replaced for a bigger one, which would have been very expensive!

    • @EclipticGuy
      @EclipticGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      This is so cool and making the future come to today. We got our new build close by and had few challenges but all the lights are wired for PoE! Can’t wait for DC lights to become available at Lowe’s and HD! Thanks for reminding me that I am not losing it!

  • @boxingtherapy87
    @boxingtherapy87 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I love the idea of this. I guess things will be different for every situation and location. What works for that hotel may not be good for someone's house. Like you guys were saying a little more time and planning will help in the long run

  • @TheSolarGuyJK
    @TheSolarGuyJK ปีที่แล้ว

    I never get tired watching and re-watching this video. It is the best video to me that you've ever made.

  • @albertsmart1221
    @albertsmart1221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bruce clearly knows a lot of detail on this project. Knowing the weight of the battery modules really shows he’d been quite hands on with the build. If they are net zero with hot water, driers and HVAC that is quite amazing.

  • @rickhobson3211
    @rickhobson3211 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I generally love all your vids, and this one blew me away! I am looking forward to your follow-up video in a year! I still don't know why their aren't PV panels on every warehouse in the Southwestern US...

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely, between solar and thermal / LFP storage that portion of the continent can run with near zero fuel costs with near zero environmental impact. Other parts of the country nuclear and wind (with storage) makes more sense. Using energy storage with SMRs will work for the high northern latitudes, the amount of SMRs is reduced and you won't need to waste energy by rejecting load at periods of low demand.

  • @johnmcnulty6171
    @johnmcnulty6171 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was amazing. I had no idea it was possible to do so much with cat5 and PoE.
    A true lightbulb moment 💡
    It's got me wondering how I can apply this in my own home. Thanks for a great report.

  • @enviromental2565
    @enviromental2565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love everything about this hotel, and hope it's a blueprint for things to come. Thank you so much Matt for covering this. I know my office building could definitely use a retrofit and I'm sure a lot of people feel the same. One thing that stands out that our office is sorely lacking is fresh air. Some days you feel as if you can't breathe and it affects everyone's health.

  • @vermontsownboy6957
    @vermontsownboy6957 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've passed that building (now Hotel Marcel) at least several thousand times driving I-95 as a child and adult. The architecture always caught my eye, but I had no idea of this building's potential. Fascinating!

  • @davejack8973
    @davejack8973 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a cool HOTEL!
    I wish I have to funds to go netzero or even get a solar setup.... maybe one day!
    Thanks MATT and everyone at UNDECIDED for yet another amazingly informative video!

    • @UndecidedMF
      @UndecidedMF  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it, Dave.

  • @saberint
    @saberint ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He needs a heating room to replace those dryers. 1 room heated to about 50c. The sheets gut hung on a moving line and they come out dry. You do need to extract the humidity which gives you grey water for those toilets. To soften the sheets they go into a non heated tumbler.

    • @thefishkid1
      @thefishkid1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what i was thinking.

    • @andrewsteinhaus8267
      @andrewsteinhaus8267 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can use a heat pump to run the dryers

    • @saberint
      @saberint ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewsteinhaus8267 they can. I have just seen drying rooms but in sunny locations because they also get passive heating of the room by the sun

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful. Hats off to the hotel owner. Regenerative braking was installed years ago in construction cranes.

  • @andrewmullen4003
    @andrewmullen4003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive hotel, glad the owner had foresight and doesn't like hearing no. Brave man, kudos to him.

  • @rebootninja8036
    @rebootninja8036 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I started playing this video TH-cam presented an ad for natural gas.
    This was happening to ClimateTown as well - ‘The Algorithm’ seems to want to sell people fossil fuels when they try to learn about sustainable energy.
    Turns out there is a setting in TH-cam channel options to disable oil & gas ads tho, so… it’s there if you want it.

  • @victormphahlele1335
    @victormphahlele1335 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its kinda funny to me that they could probably go net zero by just hanging clothes to dry instead of using dryers😅

  • @paulrobertson2457
    @paulrobertson2457 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't shove a view point down the viewets throat. You give us information to digest. Great content, again.

  • @SubStationSparky
    @SubStationSparky ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great to see. Right in my backyard, I grew up 2 blocks from here, currently I retrofitted a net zero home in Prospect CT right up the road.. With 50 panels, 5 separate heat pump systems, HRV, air sealing, new windows/siding. I agree with your closing statement, this technology does make the building more comfortable BY A MILE, My home is heated and cooled 100% of the time.. I just let my heat pumps run and I forgot about. Really great work!

  • @riccardomichel
    @riccardomichel ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No way I didn't know this building was net zero and I work right behind it

  • @bigbadthesailor5173
    @bigbadthesailor5173 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is IMO definitely your best video to date: please just keep going out and interviewing people who have actually done things that work.

  • @grahamalbert3805
    @grahamalbert3805 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always Matt! The idea of regenerative elevators working at as energy storage is super cool!

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's an amazing story Matt - love it. The POE stuff is extremely clever - I hope it becomes the standard for new homes around the world.

  • @Monkey-Epic
    @Monkey-Epic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Matt + Team@Undecided, you are my #1 favorite channel. You're the rarest team that actually doesn't just scream and yell, you are calmly giving us our hopeful solutions for a future where we see cool things doing the most coolest things.

  • @dogone1877
    @dogone1877 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just about the most amazing video you have posted to date!

  • @theblubus
    @theblubus ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing!
    I used to work for an IT service provider about a decade ago and we were just getting into low voltage digital lighting over ethernet for customers in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
    I haven't heard much about it in the industry since. This is wonderful to see it still thriving alive and well and being used on large scales amazing project

  • @andyhamilton5926
    @andyhamilton5926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an inspirational outcome, and great to hear it from Mr Becker in person. That's a really smart guy!

  • @johnb4871
    @johnb4871 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant! No stone unturned to address the efficiency of each system within the building. Very cool.

  • @quinosonic82
    @quinosonic82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eye candy!!! My two areas of expertise (Hospitality and Architecture) and one of my favorite architects (Breuer) altogether in one video, alongside passive design (probably my greatest interest nowadays). Cheers!

  • @dirtlifemagazine
    @dirtlifemagazine ปีที่แล้ว

    One of your best videos!!!

  • @nwarvi
    @nwarvi ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the idea of keeping things on DC from the solar panel to the battery out to the load and how much efficiency can be gained with it is mind blowing

  • @jimparr01Utube
    @jimparr01Utube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pretty jolly awesome to see a Hotel architect/coordinator so personally invested in a currently difficult goal. He is obviously very knowledgeable about the detail. And no BS detected in the making of this video. All kudos to this gentleman. AND - with an old building? Wow!
    Lots of brownie points from me...

    • @TinkerTry
      @TinkerTry ปีที่แล้ว

      So fun to read positive comments like this, having been there with Matt during this amazing technology tour!

  • @kloqueman
    @kloqueman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to meet and have a cup of tea with that guy. What an inspirational figure. I hope he changes the hospitality world.
    Great video Matt. 👍

  • @snoopaka
    @snoopaka ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic and most interesting. Great job on the video and Hotel for making the commitment to doing things right!

  • @malte6834
    @malte6834 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inspiring to see such a pioneer trying this out. Thanks for sharing the story, Matt!

  • @motherboardbroken2305
    @motherboardbroken2305 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this guy and his attitude and the knowledge even more so. Just blew my mind all the way.

  • @sirbutternubs
    @sirbutternubs ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruce is such a cool, knowledgeable person to interview. So glad I stumbled upon this video.

  • @anthonyperks2201
    @anthonyperks2201 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was such a great demonstration by Bruce Becker, talking about his hotel. Great talk.

  • @stopscammingman
    @stopscammingman ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see these ideas being broadcast

  • @abedmarachli7345
    @abedmarachli7345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Matt, you always amaze us.

  • @cjs1948
    @cjs1948 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was stunning! Thanks!

  • @remotecontrol1082
    @remotecontrol1082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your channel, and this hotel is amazing. Someone has at last produced a near net zero building without demolishing it and building from scratch. I would love to adopt some of these ideas when I move into a retirement flat - I've got some serious homework to do!

  • @ClayBellBrews
    @ClayBellBrews ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the dc-dc use. This is the playbook we need for homes, even if they are not net-zero.

  • @JJ-zg1hh
    @JJ-zg1hh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never thought about d.c. lighting. What a great idea. Amazing hotel - this is the new benchmark.

  • @olympicfireball
    @olympicfireball ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They could have two venting tracks for the dryer. One that sends the vented heat to the nearest exit during the summer and another that routes the heat underneath all the floors during the winter to take advantage of heat they already use.

  • @Likeomgitznich
    @Likeomgitznich ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how truely enthusiastic he is.
    I have been waiting for manufactures to introduces DC first appliances for a while now. It’s just makes sense when most of your energy needs are being met by solar and batteries that switching from DC to AC to DC just creates waste.

  • @calibrepowa1762
    @calibrepowa1762 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a cool episode, loved this tour format of real life examples

  • @3dimsteve
    @3dimsteve ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this episode. SO many opportunities to save energy. Impressed by the ERV's particularly

  • @smashingturnips5353
    @smashingturnips5353 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a brilliant man. Brilliant idea. I love all the forward thinking.

  • @30zoop
    @30zoop ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content Matt. Keep up the good work. 👍

  • @watchoutharry
    @watchoutharry ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wana say, kudos to this architect, he was super knowledgeable of what he was building as well as everything that went inside the building.

  • @spiritualhumanist
    @spiritualhumanist ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely fantastic . Adding greenery on a building would make it more appealing.

  • @brymstoner
    @brymstoner ปีที่แล้ว

    this man's an inspiration to the way more buildings should be built.

  • @Geraldaga
    @Geraldaga ปีที่แล้ว

    This was AWESOME! thanks for sharing.

  • @virginiagerardi2056
    @virginiagerardi2056 ปีที่แล้ว

    DC to DC at scale!! So cool! Really excited to see these methods adopted widely.

  • @jamieharland9080
    @jamieharland9080 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again a very interesting video ! And what a wicked building design !awesome !😊

  • @lost4468yt
    @lost4468yt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PoE lights should be the standard for all new commercial buildings. They just make so much sense. You get full control over all your lights, and you don't end up having to convert to DC at every single light point.

  • @td389
    @td389 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. This is so encouraging.

  • @roadtoad919
    @roadtoad919 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful presentation. Sensational content.

  • @alankita1059
    @alankita1059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked for Pirelli in the mid 90's and our offices were in the upper part of the building above the cutouts. Glad to see how it had been reimagined.

  • @dvanremortel
    @dvanremortel ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video Matt, thank you

  • @fparent
    @fparent ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive. Nice to hear from someone that truly knows his stuff.

  • @joepautz8442
    @joepautz8442 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this idea. I hope more businesses do this going forward.

  • @Mark-ht4lb
    @Mark-ht4lb ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Best use of PoE I have seen. Should set a standard for the future.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Matt. I would like to see a lot more buildings built like this.

  • @nickholman6972
    @nickholman6972 ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes me excited for the future

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting , Thank You . An interesting concept , I hope that it works and is Truly efficient .