The Harsh Reality About Pre-fab Homes and Why I Won't Ever Buy Them
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The fact that you roped modular homes into this category is criminal. 1. You can get regular financing with modular homes (IRC code) 2. They are built to the same code as stick built homes. Sincerely, someone who grew up in one of these homes and in a family that's sold them since 1995. Do better research.
Thank you
I work for a third party agency that inspects modular homes and I totally agree.
Yeah this clown is out of it
Awesome Jay!
Jay. Tell me about pre fans. My home burned a month ago and I'm interested in pre fabs
I love how most comments are calling out this guy's BS.
So much waffle posing as credibility.
So basically his issue is with one particular company and not the technology
Exactly. He gave the entire industry a smear because of a shady seller.
@@OliverHaughton did you finish the video? also appraisal, financing, cost issues..
He makes money off of Air BnBs... He dont want no competition.
@@michaelkaufman5119 yes. There are plenty of prefab companies who build those costs into the initial online quoting tool.
This comment is truth @Dossip
My dad has lived in a prefab for ten years and it’s amazing, has held up perfectly and was a super affordable way for him to keep his independence and enjoy his land.
Basically it worked for him. Can’t let others tell you what does and doesn’t work for you like these comments here lol.
Hello, can you share the name of the manufacturer?
Who's the manufacturer? Please.
Right but lemme ask you, how much easier would it have been to slap down a mobile home on a permanent foundation and call it a day?
@@GlorifiedGremlin And then.... there's the question of aesthetics. But if you have none, it's not a problem.
I’ve done < 1 hour research on modular homes and found out they are *NOT* considered manufactured/mobile homes. In fact, many are built STRONGER than stick homes and can withstand winds up to 170+ mph. 🌪🏡 Plus, modular homes also hold their value.
Exactly - why people confuse these is beyond me. No one can tell our home is modular.
@@jtidema oh no you can tell. I'm sure it's pretty but you definitely can tell right away
@@Patriots1262 no you can't
@A Z my uncle has a two story modular home. Defiantly can’t tell no one can and when he sold it it sold for more than his neighbour’s similar size stick built house
@@AZ-zn9lg that is completely untrue. The only way you can tell it’s a modular is my looking in the attic to see the frame of the house.
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I feel like tiny homes completely missed the mark. They feel like a glaringly obvious option for lower income individuals to get a foot into home ownership, but theyre marketed for rich people, homeless people, or hustlers
Yeah, it started out as people reclaiming materials for cheap and building a cool tiny house for 15k or less and turned into people paying someone to build them one for $200 sq ft
So true.
@@lutzaby1997 what is? Not being able to buy a tiny house and out it on property i own? Thats decidedly not capitalism
That's where the concept arose from. I think internet culture has turned the concept into something else. That said, just because there is an obsession with the high-end section of this market, tiny homes still are very much the affordable option. Even if you're paying tens of thousands, it's still a fraction of what you'd pay for even a modest traditional home.
This would be true if regulations werent set up in a way that pretty much bars tiny homes from being installed on land you own. In the usa anyways. As far as i know there are like two urban cities in the usa that allow them which is completely nonsensical
I've found more articles about prefab homes than actual places to buy them.
IKR!!!
Home Depot
Good luck buying a box able. Waiting lists without a delivery date.
Lmao!
@@CHMichael Yeah, no. Sorry. They should be moving along by now, I hope.
I wouldn't buy a pair of shoes without knowing shipping dates, much less 50k+.
2:40 he finally gets to the point
Good info, but almost 3 min of self promotion? 🤦♂️
Thanks
Thank you. Holy shit… this guy…
*THANK YOU*
2: 50.. 2 15 second ads
This can be summed up very simply: don’t buy a cheap prefab home. Buy from a legit company and pay for quality. It’s that simple. I’ve seen some awesome prefab homes both in person and on TH-cam and they’re not $20K but they’re 1/2 or 1/3 of the price of a stick built home.
Also more banks are working with some of these homes because they follow a strict code for manufacturing. Seems like the focus here is exclusively from shopping for the “cheapest option out there”.
Agreed. People are getting scammed with these cheap "shipping container homes" from Asia that will never pass building or zoning laws in 95 percent of the country. From what I've seen it's 50-60k minimum to buy a quality modular/prefab that will meet at standards.
A large Instagram following is NOT a sign of a great company. As someone in marketing, it's super easy to launch an awesome marketing campaign and rack up Insta followers. You said it yourself, some of these companies live in the digital space and there's nothing real to show or see. Remember, popularity does not equal talent.
Help me get followers on insta
I believe that’s why he’s recommending to further take a look at the follow/likes ratio which is more revealing than simply number of followers
Boxabl is pretty good their marketing and social media stuff. But it unfortunately could be a fraud
So basically …. This video says modular and prefab are the same thing, cost more than building a traditional home, and suggests buying a yurt and his program and courses.
Thank you
Thank you
Thank you for sparing me 10 minutes :)
I've built several container homes for customers. It started with my office I made that from 2 old shipping container that was on my lot. Had a deck with sliding glass doors and sky lights. It turned out very cool! So cool In fact, I made 5 more for people after word of mouth got around. I've always wanted to make a multi story container home with a vertically placed container with a spiral staircase.
Wow sounds really ppl. I want one. For real. 😊
Really cool I meant
Thermal bridging is an issue you can't get around. Dimensions are a problem on livability and increase construction costs.
Cabins and sheds go for it but after that's they're lower performance structure.
@@sparksmcgee6641 I agree. Condensation is an issue.
Currently live in a modular with a mortgage. It's looked at as a single family home. It's got 2x6 walls, just like my neighbors stick built house. There's a huge misconception between manufactured and modular homes. They're not the same thing, modulars are easy to finance as they are really no different than any other stick built home. Mine was just sent down the road from PA in two pieces.
We decided to downsize after our last child moved out, and put a deposit down on a manufactured home. That month our stick built row house property was worth 275k-315k, depending on how well we did with minor repairs, prep(declutter, and staging) and market fluctuations. A year later when we got notification that our home would be done by a certain month, our house value soared because of covid. Our house eventually sold with multiple offers, for almost 2.5 times what we thought we'd get for it. We took delivery of our home on our preferred lot with fewer neighbors, and almost half a mill in investments. We have heard horror stories about the shipping container homes, so we steered clear of those, but our prefab...so far, is great. Yes, they did cheap out on some materials(kitchen has paper covered cabinets over sawdust), but right now it looks great, cuz we upgraded to solid surface countertops(kitchen & 2 bathrooms), and stainless appliances. If we have to redo our kitchen in 5 years, and spend 30k, we're still light years ahead of where we would've been if we stayed in our previous home, so for us, it was a game changing investment. This will be the home we both die in, so I don't care how much we lose on depreciation, but even if it tanks, my kids will still have a vacation spot over a lake, and it's paid for.
Where in PA? Currently looking for land in NJ for this. Would love to know the company you worked with. Thanks!
Same here, who did you work with? Would like to try this route as well.
Eric Rumsey can you recommend the company in a modular home. Will they help me built the home ? I am not too handy. Is it a crazy paper process and how soon can people move in?
@@annielin2894 our house is a Ritz Craft. They're out of business. I would contact Penn Lyon if I was doing another modular home. Their homes are really nice, extremely well built, and priced competitively. They will likely refer you to a local builder to put in your foundation and to do necessary site work. Once the site work is done and foundation prepped, they will set the house with a crane. Once it's set the marriage walls will be finished, any flooring will be finished, and you can move in.
Wow... I guess I was expecting too much. This video offers very little value or facts. As stated these are his opinions. His claim selling a modular home (a manufactured home without steel i-beams supporting the floor structure on a permanent foundation) can be problematic.... is for the most part false. Yes, if you put a modular home with the same identical visual characteristics and identical build quality of a manufactured mobile home despite the absence of steel i-beams the market (what buyers are willing to pay for what looks like a mobile home), not lenders will dictate its value compared to similar site built structures. A reputable modular home builder will ensure the structure meets or exceeds all building codes and regulations for the city or county where the home will be placed and attached to a permanent foundation. Anyone doing business with a new modular home builder, not some camping structure Rob somehow tied into a video about residential homes, could indeed run into issues before, during, or after the home has been attached to the property. Those doing business with a new out of state modular home builder really need to vet the company. Exhaust every resource you have to ensure the company is legally doing business, bonded, insured, is in compliance (with all laws, codes, and building regulations), has no documented complaints (if they do ensure complaints have been resolved), ask for customer references, ask for photos of completed projects - delivered and set up, and above all ensure all costs are itemized in writing before signing anything. As the buyer you are responsible for ensuring you can put a modular home or manufactured home (aka mobile home) on your site. A survey will be required to determine where the foundation for the home can be placed with regards to setbacks and the geology of the site. Trucks will need access to the site, a crane will need solid ground beneath its outrigger support pads, cement delivery for the foundations, etc, etc,... The home being built for you must meet or exceed the codes and regulations for your site location. Some municipalities have vague and/or odd requirements. Nevertheless these must be adhered to by the builder, and ultimately the homeowner. Protect yourself by including an attachment of the building codes and requirements, with each page signed and dated by you and the builder with the purchase contract. If the builder tries to claim certain codes or regulations do not apply to your build, walk away and file a complaint with your states building regulations department. Modular homes must comply with all the same residential codes and regulations. Above all ensure you know the difference between a modular and mobile. In the late 80s the mobile home industry started calling themselves the manufactured home industry. While "manufactured homes" applies to both modular and mobile as they're both manufactured, there are critical differences between the two. A modular home, unless attached to a legal permanent foundation as defined by the local building code may be considered personal property or in violation of code despite not arriving on its own wheels. In such an instance the home is in violation, likely to be red tagged and will cost money out of your own pocket to remedy. I saw this happen when a homeowner decided to save money buy using concrete block piers. He then used cement board and stucco to make it appear as though the home was on a full foundation. When the inspector arrived after all setup and finishing was complete to complete the homes final inspection for to obtain the occupancy permit, he noted the fake foundation and immediately sealed the doors, the home was red tagged. The homeowner had to pay for a crane, rent flatbed trailers, removed each section of the house, poured a legal foundation, and set the house back up. The modular home builder was investigated for delivering the home knowing the foundation was in violation. They paid a fine. If a builder is willing to look the other way while a homeowner attempts illegal works, you don't want to do business with them.
The one good piece of information in this video is looking out for hidden costs. Every last cost must be broken down within the contract. One cost, almost always overlooked, is working with the city and/or county to move signs, street lights, and traffic lights and the utility companies for their overhead lines. The power company will not touch the telephone, cable, or fiber optic lines. Each utility company must be contacted. Unless all aspects of delivery are 110% handled by the builder and listed in the contract, its your responsibility to choose a route to avoid obstacles, low overpasses, and weight and/or width restricted bridges and roads. Again every aspect of travel must be itemized in the agreement. Don't accept a line stating "delivery included". What their including must be itemized. The same is true for set-up. Ensure all interior and exterior finishing is included or excluded in writing within the contract. As well as ensuring someone is there to connect the utilities to the delivered home. If there is no power the workers can't get busy finishing the interior and exterior.
This video content is more about ADUs rather than your typical modular home. There are many well established and reputable modular home builders. Due to the many differences in building codes and requirements between states, as well as regional climate differences you're not likely to find a home builder in Florida for your site in Oregon. They'll be upfront about the states, cities, and counties they build homes for.
Yes there is always a newcomer ready to shake up the industry. These players often tout new methods and/or materials to "revolutionize the industry". If your looking to build your new home on a budget, they're not for you. Particularly if you can't afford to take a risk the home may be severely delayed or is never delivered if the company goes bust, a budget which keeps climbing, your scsmmed, or the home needs to be extensively rebuilt or replaced in a few years time due to material failure and/or construction issues. Stick with reputable established builders. Don't choose a modular with an identical mobile twin. It will always look like a mobile home. Looking like a mobile home can equate to double digit value percentage loss compared to neighboring homes. These mobile/modular twins have low roof pitch, short eves, low windows, tiny bump outs, and odd dormers all of which screams mobile home. Invest in a modular home with hinged eves, hinged roof, and hinged gable ends. Having normal eves, full length gable ends, and a steeper pitch alone sets a modular apart from a mobile. Smart design changes and proper roof dimensions and pit, with a well planned recessed foundation, will pay for itself in a few years as the home appreciates in value at the same, similar, or higher (thanks to their super insulation) rate than comparable site built homes. Don't stop at the roof..... Do your best to add attic dormers, upgrade the windows and alter the size of a few to be more inline with stick built homes. Manufacturers of modular and mobile love to use the same cheap double hung window all around the home. Look closely and you'll see every window, except static, kitchen, and bathroom windows are the same size. Thinking you'll save now by changing windows later will cost as much a five times the amount due to structural alterations necessary to accommodate new window sizes.
If resale and visual appearance are not a concern, choose the slightly less expensive mobile option if your site does not have a restriction on mobile homes. These modular/mobile twin are identical on the surface.
There is a lot more for serious buyers to research on this topic. All in all this video is, as stated, an opinion piece. Do not let his opinions dissuade you from researching modular home options. The manufactured home industry is much greener than site built homes. Yes, lower cost homes have cheap finishes which look nice to start.....but ultimately need remodeling much sooner than a site built home. At the same time we are seeing entry level site built homes with the same cheap finishes found in entry level mobile and modular homes. Both have upgrade options. Some items are worth upgrading during the build due to the costs to upgrade later being much more for various reasons. While many items may be cheaper to upgrade yourself later.
Cheers.
What I found particularly appalling is that he included site work (excavation, foundation, septic, grading, water source) as "hidden costs." These are not "hidden costs" to anyone who gives a moment's thought to what a house needs to make it a functioning home.
To long but thanks!
Thanks, figured as much. Highly, his opinions.
Interesting video. In almost any part of New England that isn't the sticks, a 1-2 bedroom condo/home will cost you $350,000+. Rents are over $1200 for a one bedroom. Building a tiny home even an expensive one, is still way cheaper here than renting or owning a traditional home. Good tips though, thank you!
This is why I moved out of New England
I had a two bedroom apartment in Quincy, MA for $1,000.
*cries in Seattle*
Are they legal dwelling units ?
yeah but the cost of the land is the expensive thing
This sounds more like a cautionary take on making sure you only hire contractors of modular homes who have been vetted to an excruciating detail. There's several comments I've seen about prefab homes being flimsy and such but that's not exactly exclusive to a building type. Like anything else, if you cheap out you're getting what you pay for.
From.what I've sewn, these are rated extremely high for weather. Like 120mph.
Certainly better than any overpriced TRAILER. LOL
Saw one POS online for 25k, right?
They wanted (no sh*t) almost 3 THOUSAND a MONTH in "property taxes!" For a TRAILER!!
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 god dàmn
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 they've lost their minds
The crews that come along to install these things are not usually very good carpenters. If everything onsite is predictable, then everything will probably be OK.
You used to be able, way back in the day, you could buy a home from the Sears catalog and other places. Homes that were delivered to your piece of property with everything needed to be built by you or someone you hired. Nowadays the stuff you get from a pre-fab perspective is a little flimsy and, as you say, way too expensive for what you get.
Yup. Examples of this still standing in Atlanta.
My neighbor in NJ had a Sear’s catalog home. It was 90 yrs old and still solid.
As well as Illinois
Still exists. Shelter-kit homes.
Yes, that's the Sears Family Legacy
Wow there’s a whole lot of misinformation in this video. I’m not saying he did it on purpose but I have a brother who has been involved in prefab housing for years and worked on stick built houses before that. He said that in this day and age, prefab homes are actually superior in several areas more than stick built. Depending on how much you pay for the land, prefab can be a quarter or more less expensive than stick built as well.
Yea he’s confusing tiny homes and manufactured homes with single family modular homes. Modular homes are basically stick built in a climate controlled warehouse and delivered on site. There’s no structural difference between modular and stick built.
@@aileencrane7700 right. I don’t think it was done nefariously but it is bad info nonetheless.
I sit through the first 3 minutes where I learn nothing new (get asked to subscribe and sign up for his consultation) and then it cuts to an advertisement.
I agree Donnie it's pants..just rubbish. If your content is good people will subscribe..simple
Thank you!!!
Use adblock and see comments for wher the vid starts.
Content creators need funds to continue to make content. It takes them hours of research and video/audio editing.
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Never seen one
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My girlfriend and I like your videos and appreciate in previous videos the transparency with numbers. Gives the content very valuable weight in my opinion and is why I continue to watch. Plus, you’re relatable and funny so keep it up dude!!
I just built a kit home in Australia.. from Imagine kit homes.. it was a 2 bedroom 2 bath 80 m2 home (861 ft2). It was mostly a positive experience as they have their own architects and did all the plans and design work for $2000 aud ($1400us). The home was steel frame and was delivered to my lot in four stages. It included all of the frame , windows, siding , drywall , doors, trims and fixings to put it together, I hired my neighbour and put it together in a couple of months. They also have advisors that advise you if any problems or questions. There were a couple of issues that came up but they addressed them satisfactorily at their cost.. the kit was $52,000 Aud ($36,000US) and they now sell them in home depot in the US.. I would do it again as it was a positive experience and the home I built is a very nice place,,,
How much did foundation wiring and plumbing add? Like from the street.
Thank you for this. I'm researching kit homes in Australia atm, so it is wonderful to come across such a positive experience. It is so scary 'out there' with construction companies going bankrupt leaving people with unfinished homes.
@@greenness7387 I echo this, from Aus, especially in current economy! Care to share any nuggets from your research?
I highly recommend Mennonite/Amish prebuilt cabins. They’re usually very well built, offer rental/financing options, and free delivery ~200 miles. This is usually geographic location specific to areas with Mennonite/Amish communities.
Have a link?
I second ‘Jose request
Are they available in Europe?
I’m guessing being Amish they don’t have a website? Do you know of anyone I can contact about these?
@@nomaddad4850 I had the same question. So I just put “Amish log cabins“ in the search bar and I found a few companies. But this one is my favorite. I hope this helps. th-cam.com/video/DSP45DnuIkY/w-d-xo.html
I don't think you actually understand what pre-fab homes are. You can buy million dollar pre-fab homes that look like every other house in suburbia. I think what you're thinking of are tiny-homes, container homes, or tiny homes on wheels. All pre-fab means is pre-fabricated - which can equially be a 2500sqft+ home built into the ground. They are delivered in components and assembled in place.
Usually you have to watch about 10 videos or even more, read articles etc. To get familiar with a subject or an item, i heard the term kit house 15 minutes ago and this one video made me incredibly familiar with an alien subject.
Pro's, con's, what to look out for, all packed in a short entertaining video you're a pretty good creator dude.
I was curious what’s your opinion on the company Boxabl?
My old man worked 40 years in home and commercial construction. We have lived in 3 prefab homes growing up 2 in MA 1 in NH which he still owns today in rentals and a vacation home. If you design it properly and know what your doing planning it they are much lower in cost then a stick built home and just as durable it not more. Our Neighbor in NH also built a prefab home and they can't keep the house above 65* in the winter because of cheaper insulation they choose, multiple sky lights and a wrap around porch on the East, south and west side of their home.
I'm moving to Hanover, NH area in exactly 1 year for work. With the crazy housing market, I'm thinking about buying an acre 20min out in the country and live in a cost effective housing solution that has really good insulation and snow load. Do you have any recommendations to prefab companies in NH or pole barn house builders? Thanks!
@@madmiata1887 -- Keep in mind that land costs and site work will probably end up costing you about 2/3 of the cost of your finished home. And adjust your expectations accordingly. Septic systems are not cheap, and wells are unpredictable-- thousands to tens of thousands. A gravel driveway can require excavation and lots of gravel fill. And foundations don't come cheap, even if you use poles or concrete columns. The soil in NH is bony as hell, and you can't just rent an auger and dig nice clean holes like you were working with prairie sod. Learn how to use a long-handled #2 shovel (the simplest tools require the most technique to master-- same with a hammer). And how many poles will the power company need to put in to get the juice to your house?
-- The first place to start is a perc test. If you can't buy a lot with a perc test, talk to the neighbors near any piece of land you're considering, and ask them how big their septic systems had to be. Check out local soil maps, or talk to a soil scientist. Also look out for sub-surface bedrock. That can make foundations tricky. Clay-ey soil above sloped bedrock is shit. Focus on the site and site-work first. When you get that straightened out, then you can start fantasizing about your house.
-- If you're a leftist, consider finding a place across the river in VT.
Insulation is likely the least of concern. Where’s the ductwork? The crawlspace? What size A/C? Mfr housing install is dogshit and nobody gives a fuck, the equipment is even worse
@@williamknox94 no no this was just a wall mounted ac unit. I did run a hvac system in my modular home, just went through the attic. We also live in New England so most homes have walk in basements.
65 degrees is quite comfy.
He finally begins talking about something you want to hear at 4:51
Ty
I don't know about Editor Caleb but Superfan Caleb thinks your video length is 👌
I don’t own one, but Iglucraft looks interesting. They’re 28k-58k ‘glamping pods’ and made in Europe so shipping is probably a big expense, but I’d be curious if anyone has any experience with them
Stuck around till the end! Just found your channel today but I appreciate the insight and transparency.
I’m 39 and my dream is to one day have my first home as a prefab, under $100k if possible from a reputable source. Right now the best thing to do is to keep learning more about these type of unique homes. Thanks Robuilt for this decent and informative video on the subject :).
I agreeing would keep you away from high mortgage
Most of what he said though is wrong. It wasn't informative, it was misleading. Do your homework...visit the factory where the homes are built...double check with your municipality to ensure that they allow Prefab homes...and get a reputable building to install the home if the manufacturer does not do so. You will be ok.
@@joestriker2100 says a nobody commenting under a video
@@GamerDeo Don't worry princess...If you want to stay ignorant, then by all means do so.
What kind of job do you do? Just wondering. I haven't figured out what I want to do with my life to make money yet. Art is an easy way out for me even though I suck at it and have no degree.
Rob I want to say thank you for always making good content 🥺🙏
Of course we want to hear that story - and names!
😂right, like im fully invested now so dish!!!
@Robuilt TELL US PLEASEEEE WE NEED TO KNOW
Hey Robuilt, enjoyed your video and watched to the end. very informative. Keep up the great work!
At this point, if I were ever to do a "prefab" I'd just buy land, put a barndominium shell down, and build a home inside of it and just not tell anyone. Sure it's not really a prefab, but it's the only way the price would make sense.
What are your thoughts on park models? They seem pretty spendy, but most appear to be quality built and fairly easy to get moved & set...
Needed info, thank you. Appreciate the thoughts on which ones you value & why.
Thanks, RiverRaven! Glad you got a lil' something out of this video!
Thank you for this information. You have the best videos! You are hilarious. Great editing!
As someone who is doing what they can to A. Make a business out resting/selling and building places to live this video has put me in the direction go for sure. But the most important part is B. Just how much i had wrong but though i had right, you really are an informational channel...
Thank you so much
We had a twister that came through town and there's a prefab house from home Depot that was completely unfazed by the storm which was what peaked my interest in them
Hi Rob, I am wondering if you have any perspective on steel buildings? I'm seeing lots of companies that will stand up a simple insulated structure for $20k-$30k .
Can you share where you see them, I’m interested in learning more, thanks
Home Depot has them. They're about 65k. Frame only. A 2 bed, 2 bath loft with kitchen, LR and DR and decking.
I'd heard figure twice the cost, plus 10%
2:58 had me rolling lol the music and everything was so Fall Out. Love it, thank you for sharing your experience and giving honest input. I think people who have done it glam it up for views and likes. Not saying it cant be done but either way its an investment and a lot of work. No regular ol mo shmo can just waltz on into a tiny home and live for cheap. Gotta do your homework, definitely need saving and most of the time will need a form of higher education to be able to work from home or have a means to travel into the city for work. They show a lot of the finished product and downplay what it really took to get there.
I recently went ti a new store named Living Spaces in Fort Worth, Texas. They had 3 modular home on display that were beautiful constructed onsite by Mighty Homes! Apparently you can buy the floor plans and have them built. One was a home by Joanne and Chip Gaines of the Fixer Upper home show and another was a Spanish/Mexican floor plan. Do you. know anything about the company Mighty Homes?
You nailed it. You’re trading money for time saved in the construction phase. And if the municipality doesn’t like/understand prefabs and tiny houses, whatever time you could have saved in construction you lose in permitting and other paper chasing.
We had no issues with that at all. In fact, the final inspection from the town was just the official jotting down the numbers of the inspections that happened at the factory! He opened up our under-sink cabinet, and said "OK, you're good".
@@jtidema that's great. Congrats!
I like your logo!! The ‘r’ flipped into hammer !! = clevah!! A great and relevant topic btw!!
Great insight from a guy who's paid attention on this subject! I've recently purchased a 1/2 acre of raw land down the hill from you and I'm considering options of the best use for it. This helps...
Big fan of what Boxabl has going on!
Never ship a single unit to consumer, could be a scam
@@mollyhohenzollernstewart7444 Boxabl is obviously not a scam lol
Yeah, I think this is very specific to a certain strain of like hip modern prefab homes. There are more modular home companies out there that are more legit and cheaper, especially in shells, that some banks (including Rocket, and including FHA) will approve as long as you get enough of it completed that they aren't so scared about the investment (ie they feel they have sufficient collateral)
This was great, thank you so much! I would love to have an updated version of this in the coming year or two. There have been SO many new optoins in this space just in the past 6 months.
I really liked the video. You are super funny and provided much needed content. What more could ya ask for? Thank you!
Wow! Awesome info with a great sense of humour! Thank you! I'm definitely subscribing.
Would love to hear more about what's permitted and allowed in Joshua Tree, Yosemite, other park areas. Thanks for great contents!
I love your editing and content. I feel like I’m watching a million sub channel in its infancy. Keep it up!
Man, thank you so much. If I ever hit a million, please remind me of this comment. I will buy you a Chipotle burrito.
I disagree. I think his content is to goofy for most long term viewers and he wastes to much time before he gets to the real content of the video. Very big turn off.
@@Robuilt I definitely will 👍
@@Robuilt You will never get to a million subs with your attitude towards criticism about your video content.
Don’t listen to the haters above Rob. Stay on course 👊🏻
Love the content keep it coming!
A bit off topic from the video, but I've long wondered how you deal with toilets/showers for your more remote airbnb locations, like your Yurts? It seems like such a cheap way to get into the market, but there's not much info on those kind of properties to find out there imo.
I’d like a video about this also!
I am assuming answer is "hole in the ground" or composting. Anything other would be prohibitive for the costs associated with his builds and terrain conditions.
I was wondering the same thing. My best guess is something like generators powering water pumps for showers and they do sell little mini sinks where you step on a pump and it pumps the water out. And as someone said before, they probably use something like a composting toilet. These are all just guesses though. I have not actually done this myself.
My thought is that you would have a central bathhouse, instead of putting a bathroom in each unit. This model was pioneered by KOA campgrounds. I know people that live in the mountains and work in the city. You can buy a water tank up to 500 Gal that fits in the bed of your pick up truck. Many employers allow their employees to fill up at work for free.
You may have to pay the utilities company. Check with your local county, they do determine whether or not you are required to have septic/grid or if you can get away with a compost toilet (bucket + sawdust).
For example: Pierce County, WA requires all new homes to be connected to the grid & septic/sewer. Chelan County, WA on the other hand only requires your house to be bigger than 7x10, but it’s okay to have an outhouse cause no requirements on bathrooms, electricity, or water.
I'm curious what you think about Avframe. the are similar to Den out doors.
Also curious, I saw an image from Avrame's site in the first minute of the video and was surprised to not see them mentioned, especially since the owner seems to make it a point to try and make files listing all costs and fees for the sake of presenting to banks for a loan or to zoning boards.
This is my first time enjoying your TH-cam channel. Great content! Looking forward to hearing more from you! Your video was so informative. Thank you so much!
Do you think it would be easy to destroy the walls of a boxabl? Would suck if someone trying to get in could just rip out a wall to get to someone inside
I was just about to put a prefab in my Amazon cart!!! 🤦🏽♀️
What about that avrame company?
check Avrame
You need to do waaaay more research.
I was wondering if it’s possible to create a 10ft x 10ft (3m x 3m) cube shaped home.
Imagine a 100 square foot house and stack 2 of those on top to create a 3 story home.
1st floor be living/kitchen, 2nd floor my bedroom with my desk, 3rd floor be my parents room.
Essentially, a 3 story 300 square foot House on a 400 square foot lot. Have a backyard for grilling, few plants to grow vegetables and have a space for a side garage area.
That would be my dream home.
Minecraft
@@taylorrains1272
Make it outta diamond blocks !
This is a scary idea, you should get some skyscraper advice before building a pencil on sand lol
First time watching this channel, but the movie references randomly thrown in are hilarious 😂
Great videos Rob. Thanks for the insight.
I was wondering , have you ever seen alibaba prefabs? Ive seen some for like 2 thousand and they just have to be scams
Only buy from verified sellers who have proof they have working contracts in the states.
Love your videos Rob. I will be checking out the recommendations as I would love to figure out how to put a structure on my property or ultimately get some land that I can start a yurt or a-frame cabin business on. Why don't you call us Robians?
I remember learning about them in the same class where I got in trouble for talking about ceiling fans.
Thanks so much for this video! Super informative!
Love it. I am a General Contractor by trade and we are building our own rentals. Seems like allot of these kit companies are throwing up a hail Mary and hoping someone bites! If you figure carpenters make money, general makes money and these guys double those rates. Imagine if you build your own. I would venture to say 60% cheaper!
Yup, pretty much this. There’s a reason I’ve chosen to stick build my home’s conventionally. It’s typically cheaper.
Agree 1,000 percent, for a place with average weather. That said, somebody needs to do pre-fab for hurricane zones, or fire zones, or flood zones. Super resilient properties that are stronger than stick. This will make someone very rich, and save countless lives going forward. Maybe I'll start.
@@Robuilt It's you labor!!! However many people do not have the skills nor time to build nor desire to hammer nails!!!
@@emeeul flood zones? it's called a trailer you can move.
@@justthink5854 You do realize how many people around the world live in flood zones? They tend to be the most economically important areas on the planet. Nobody is building a billion trailers to simply move. These places can and should remain viable for our species. Thus, implement an engineering solution that is proven to work. Trailering is mitigation, not adaptation. Humans are extremely adaptable.
Love Interstellar (poster is ok, movie is GREAT)! Thank you for discussing pre-fab homes and the issues as well as recommendations. It's helpful and your approach in videos is fun.
C’MON TARS.
@@Robuilt It’s not a ghost. It’s gravity.
Great video, stellar content delivered in a quick concise way. I'll be coming back for more.
Love the content and the editing is on point. 👍
Glad you touched on #2 - financing issues. To me, that's the biggest problem of all. I'm a Mortgage Loan Officer for a direct lender and its extremely difficult to get through the Underwriting process on a prefab.
Why?
@@azbacnikorange probably a lack of a viable product history
@@Mang213 I'd say lack of resale on a trailer, for example...
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 yeah that definitely would make sense
Are you talking about prefab or manufactured? Huge difference.
Bro, you ARE the youtuber that spends the first 3 minutes of a video asking for likes and follows. Also if you want engagement at the beginning of your video for the youtube algorithm, get RIGHT into the content!
Edit:
Finished watching and left a like along with this comment for the algorithm. Good video!
Exactly! Rob was/is a copywriter so he already KNOWS this. What he needs to do is map that knowledges across the two domains. Apply what he knows about commercials/conventional copywriting to his new domain of TH-cam videos.
If you think it, TH-cam videos are in many ways just like magazine and newspaper “advertorials”. One of the most effective direct marketing methods ever!
I LOVE the speed at which the video moves. (Long intros and waffling makes me crazy).
A) Yes I stayed that long (insert Napoleon Dynamite gif here).
2) This definitely needs to be a podcast too! You can have your editor peel the audio and just upload that to a podcast host. I'd be happy to help/answer any questions
#) I can't wait for your courses!
I had a horrible experience with the prefab company we used. He’s right- you can stick build for the same price, the on site fees are outrageous, and we had to go through the permitting process 2x- once for the factory and once for the site
Who did you use?
@@rosemaryreimann6343 Plant Prefab
What to do, what to do. Honomobo looks interesting but yeah, $$$. Good video!
wow...such awesome video editing. Love it.
You're a wicked talker, but I'm hanging on to every word. Great editing...😂😂😂
I believe prefab homes are the future!
You are getting funnier by the minute, super entertaining and educational!
It’s always nice to see you, you make it feel like we are having a conversation with a old friend, keep it up! 😉
Thanks for watching, Alejandro! I need to do a tour of the A-frame stat!
Excellent video!!! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I have a better understanding of pre-fab homes.
My home is a kit house from 1905, it's got 10" thick walls built on a stone foundation. This place was constructed from old growth white pine and it was built like a damn tank! How many pre fab homes do you think will see 117 years of age?
Ads before the video, decent intro, 2 minutes of like my stuff (decent jokes tho), TH-cam ads, actual video at 3 minutes... this comment is the engagement you wanted but come on man why do I have to wait so long to hear the point
It's truly not often TH-cam reviewers/educators are this engaging, interesting, funny, appealing. Thank you!!!! I want more.
Wow, that is so very nice. Thanks, Diana! Thrilled you like my content :)
Killing it bro 🔥 love the channel. Liked, subscribed, belled 😁
What do you think of The prefab boxabl?
Also I have asked them how is it air conditioned and heated is it already set up for them or does it have to be an add-on.
been looking into Pre-fabs for a while and it definitely feels like the reputable builders aint cheap. if you want to build a tiny house it may be cheaper to go stick.
I've always thought this!
Hey Rob - I just closed on some land here in Florida - planning to put a Pacific Dome on the site. I'll let ya know how it turns out!!
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! I'm up north, and I'm considering on doing something similar. 😊
Whereabouts?
Let us know
Hollywood John where is Florida did you buy the land ? Did you build that Pacific Dome on it ? Updates please!! 😃
@@romi929 Hey there, it's up here in Gilchrist county - Bill Gates bought a bunch of land up here so I figured it was a good idea to buy some too haha. As of now the site is getting developed with water/power/septic etc.. and I'm interviewing general contractors to see who's most qualified to handle the permitting and building!!
In northern MN Duluth/North Shore has always been my dream to open a glamping resort or BNB! I've been in hospitality most of my career and I just never saw a path financially to make this happen! Your channel honestly makes me think it's possible!
Glad you are stating USD and CAD in newer videos since some older state costs and I was not sure which currency.
Stayed till the end. Love the content!
"I think" - not a strong starting statement when you're trying to convince people about the harsh realities of said industry.
I do not disagree with any of your points because they are valid, albeit general for many other industries anyway.
Watched a few vids. Subbed. Keep up the good content 👍
Those A-frame kits look pretty cool!
This is so far off from reality. Container homes, tiny homes, and kit homes/bunkies are nothing like a prefab home. A prefab home is basically a real house that is built in a factory. This means that quality control can be much higher. They have to meet all the building codes and most of them get certified to do inspections so there is no staged building on site. In my area, there are 5 or 6 companies that have real offices and model homes. They have been around for decades and are as concerned about reputation as any builder. They are approximately half the price of site built semi-custom homes.
As far as financing, they are treated no different than a new build. You get the financing in stages as the site is developed and the home delivered. In many cases it is even easier if the prefab company has a good reputation because costs are fixed and quality is more consistent. The home also jumps in value, to match a site built home, as soon as everything is finished so if you play your cards right, you can have it appraised when complete and mortgage the full cost while making it appear that you have 20+% equity in the house, the same way real estate companies do with under-market rentals.
A few key things to keep in mind:
1. Site work is not included so you still need a GC (General Contractor) or you need to be the GC to put in the foundation, septic and well (if needed), or make the necessary utility connections.
2. Customizations raise the costs exponentially. The value in this approach is the assembly line. If you deviate too much, they can't follow the normal process and you pay through the nose.
3. They generally have a delivery radius where they will deal with the trucking, crain, and final assembly. If you fall outside this radius, you need contractors to do all this, and they likely don't have the same level of experience.
All in all, prefab homes are an excellent option if you want to keep costs down, especially if you can be your own GC
Yes - I'm getting one built with steel frame and roof - full on solar by Eclipse cottages. Could be a more solid home than a stick built.
@@twinsoultarot473 sounds great! I looked at their website and they have some nice designs for off grid living. They call them cottages and some of them look like tiny homes, but do they meet the national or local building codes?
CRuM770 can you please recommend the company?
@@annielin2894 you should look in your area since delivery distance is important. In Ontario Canada a couple companies with good reputations are Guildcrest Homes and Bonneville Homes. There are many others here as well.
Disclaimer: I toured model homes from both of these builders, but didn't end up buying for a couple reasons. First, there were a couple high end features I wanted that they couldn't do at a reasonable price since it wasn't in their process. Second, I couldn't find a vacant lot in the area I wanted at a price I could afford. I ended up buying a 50 year old home in the area instead. All this to say, I can't recommend these companies from experience, only from research around 10 years ago.
@@twinsoultarot473 is there a way just to buy an empty already built a prefab home then going through a process this is just a headache.
Well pre-fab or modular home are not the same as manufactured or mobile home. They are very different from one another..
I like how I see an ad from you and then see you in the video haha
You're awesome! Thank you so much for your expertise!