8:58 You laughed that you felt so juvenile laughing at the jokes. Mal and Jayne are 12 at heart. Did you catch the joke with Badger in Shindig? About ten minutes into Shindig, Badger is talking about the ball that Harrow will be at. Badger says "Course, you couldn't buy an invite with a diamond the size of a testicle. I got my hands on a couple." Mal and Jayne look at each other and snicker. Badger angrily says "Of invites." Cracks me up every time I see it and the same for this ep. Special hell. :)
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle". "Well, isn't that ... Special" "You Brute!" So many great one liners in this episode.
The trouble with most comedy shows and movies is that after you’ve seen them a few times, the jokes get stale. I only discovered “Firefly” a few years ago too, but I’ve watched OMR at least 20 times and the lines never fail to crack me up. “The SPECIAL Hell!” “But she was naked! And all...articulate!” “Then...can I know her?” Joss Whedon has proven himself to a total assclown in recent years, but I still love this show.
Joss totally played with our love for the crew and handed us, like you correctly said, a stand alone funny episode that told us more about the crew and how they depend on each other. More bonding and moving the story along while entertaining us. One of my favorites. It gets better.
I love the attention to detail. In a vacuum, there's no sound except on comms and the music played on top. But in the places with atmosphere, they get the bangs and sparks and such.
Dude, I'm so glad you're doing this - I feel like I'm reliving my first watch vicariously and it's got me grinning and loving it. Welcome to the browncoats! :D
You love that the Chinese was written that way, whereas the actors hated having to learn Chinese. :D You call it childish to laugh at those jokes. I call it good writing, and production to bring your emotions to a child-like state.
One thing I noticed a while ago that still impresses me is how they include the Chinese. By context, a lot of the Chinese seems to be ppl swearing. So it's like they found a way to swear on tv without having it bleeped out or something. Which I find really cool and intriguing and kinda brilliant. It also gives an idea of what the world was like before all the space travel. China and the US seem to have been the main powers
I might be mistaken, but I don't believe there was a really whimsical reasoning behind the heavy use of Chinese, but more of a practical approach. The prologue to Firefly/Serenity(mentioned in the opening a few times if memory serves) is essentially that humanity overwhelmed Earth and had to spread out into space to continue to grow and survive. With that huge diaspora of people, a huge percentage of which would be Chinese(around 20% of current humanity is Chinese), so that would be one of the most logical common tongues to adopt to allow communication with the largest number of people. It makes sense, but it's still really cool that they considered that aspect of how our species would change after kinda being scattered to the four winds in the event of an exodus.
By the way, the Blu-ray has a great commentary track for this episode with Joss, Nathan, Alan, and Ron Glass. They even have dinner together where they share anecdotes and ideas for unfilmed episodes.
@Jeffmccobb I am a fan of the next two episodes 7 and 8 above all the rest. I think they are the reason this show clicked with so many people.Looking forward to your reactions.
The writing in this show is incredible. The literary references are amazing too. In this episode, as Saffron attempts to seduce Wash she says: _"My whole life, I saw nothing but roofs and steeples and the _*_cellar door_*_ . A few days I'll be back to that life and gone from yours. Make this night what it should be. Please? Show me the stars."_ 'Cellar door' is considered the most beautiful phrase in the English language because of its phonaesthetic quality (its spoken beauty with no regard to meaning). Saffron's training as a companion, later identified by Inara, evidently taught her the power of beautiful language in seduction. Wash: _"Whoa. Good myth."_ The phrase might also be hinting at some of Saffron's backstory - was she enslaved in some way in the past, being locked behind a cellar door? Does that go some way to explaining the life she leads now? We'll never know how this character may have developed in future episodes. Interestingly, the reference could also be a nod to the 2001 movie _Donnie Darko_ where the superior sound of 'cellar door' is mentioned in one scene - and then, in a later scene, an actual cellar door features as a time-twisting portal.
Very interesting. This character is one I would have loved to have seen develop more. Perhaps something happens where she redeems herself with Mal and is accepted into the crew. With her . . . assets 😮 and other abilities she could be a plus in their line of work. Of course, she would probably always be a female version of Jayne - you would never really know what would happen when the money is good enough.
I love the lens through which you view this series. I’ve watched Firefly countless times and am in my second viewing of your reaction to it. You bring enthusiasm and savvy to your analysis without ever coming off unauthentic or jaded - a problem with many react channels. Please keep it up!
Ahh, so much fun see your reactions. Sure the ep may be a little juvenile but it is hilarious. After 6 of 14 episodes you have now seen two of my top 7. 🤗
I frickin love Jayne... Honestly, every character is great. Awesome show. And Nathan Fillion is so perfect as Mal. Plot twist... Saffron isn't little miss innocent. Great scene btwn her & Inara lol. It's also one of my fav episodes.
Point of interest, the translator who was 'trying' to get them speaking Chinese did a lot of research for actual current swearing phrases to use in the episodes.. Sounds good even if they didn't get the enunciation all correct like lol
Tracy Cameron I think it worked out to be more “authentic” than it would’ve been if the would’ve gotten in correct. Language changes so quickly and if they really are that comfortable with the phrases/language then they would make it their own (look at how Americans use English as an example. We don’t care if it’s “corrrect”, it’s how we say it! Lol)
@@migmit You're assuming that Polygamy isn't a thing on that planet where they got married. Could be perfectly legal for someone to be married to more than one person.
I've never researched it, and maybe this has been discussed/clarified at some point in an interview or panel: in that final scene between Mal and Inara, it always gave me pause (just like it did with Inara). Mal *can* be pretty clueless at times, but he is also shown to be particularly clever in his own way. And Mal certainly loves his pranks, and keeping Inara on her heels. So I've enjoyed musing whether Mal was truly just that dense, or if he was just purposely setting Inara up for the "I knew you let her kiss you," line.
I vote for the latter. Mal was not that dense. He knew Jayne betrayed Simon and River before he had any definitive proof. And he did love his pranks. He told Simon Kaylee died, for instance, with a dead serious face! I think he said that to Inara just to see her reaction and as payback for being so cheeky about refusing to admit she kissed him.
At the end of "Earth that was" only two significant powers remained in the world. The United States and China. As a result the languages mingled some people speak primarily English and some Chinese and vice versa.
I second. And he has to sing both verses used in the show. I'm told there are more verses, but I don't know if they are official. Hmmm ... Maybe would could do a Zoom sing-a-long.
@@marrenby I'm sorry but I'm having trouble finding the video again. It was awhile ago and it was titled something like "Smart ways to get around TV censors" or "Cool ways shows got around censors", but I've tried those and have come up empty. It might have been pulled for copyright or TH-cam Censorship or something. There is a website that I found that is fireflychinese.com They give translations on there and rate how well the actors actually pronounced them.
If i remember right the Chinese influence is because the makers tried to make it realistic knowing English is already the universal language but believed the china would have a massive influence on human culture in the future
Incase no one has explained it yet... when humans colonized the space they're in it was primarily American and Chinese settlers. Over the generations their cultures merged.
One minor point: "Vera needs air around her in order to fire." Yeah, no. No firearm using self-contained cartridge-based ammunition needs air. The oxidizer is contained in the gunpowder, and the powder in the sealed cartridge is ignited by the spark from the cap when struck by the hammer of the gun. As long as Vera is not a flintlock, she can fire just fine in vacuum.
@@daveolson6001 Perhaps, but in a microgravity environment, the round's weight wouldn't cause it to drop; it would maintain a straight-line, purely ballistic flight path at the velocity initially imparted by the charge explosion. It wouldn't necessarily need spin stabilization.
What's really weird about the title is, no reactor I've ever seen ever thinks, "This could be about Mal's mother". The only problem I've had with your reactions is that every single episode of this series is heavily driven by witty dialog, yet you stomp all over a LOT of really great lines. I sincerely hope that, by now (2 years later), that you've gone back and rewatched these episodes like all of us have, and just listened to the brilliant lines being laid down all over this show. If you don't, you're doing a disservice to yourself. BTW, about the final Mal-Inara scene, EVERYONE falls for the thought that Mal is an idiot, but you really have to think about it to understand, Mal knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He and Inara have 2 incompatible directions in life, and he knows they can never be as long as that's true. She's a companion ... an occupation that Mal could NEVER let continue if they were to get together, and Inara's really independent ... forcing her, either verbally or by her own accord for the sake of the relationship would NEVER work and WOULD eventually come back to destroy their relationship. So, he took the ONLY course of action he could ... and that is to poke fun at it, and he did it so brilliantly that he left her unsure about what he really meant. Look at her face again with this in mind. Either way, Mal not only figured out what she did, but he used it to give them both a way out of admitting anything. He HAD to because they both know that, at least for now, there's no way it was time, or that it would've worked out in this moment. So, don't beat yourself up over it, everyone except apparently me misunderstood that ending. I can't figure out why ... not if you really think about Mal's personality, quick wits and protective nature. He's always trying to protect his crew, from any and all threats, even emotional ones. And then, of course, there's the general rule in all great shows, the resident pair of lovelorn characters NEVER get together, because that would destroy the sexual tension. You have this in all the greats like Gunsmoke, where Matt and Kitty had such an affair (or non-affair) for well over 10 years, and each week or so, they'd play into that to get people's hopes up. It's actually 1 of the things that kept people tuning in each week ... to see if they'd give into it ... not the ONLY thing, but 1 of them.
Yep. What you said about Mal and Inara. Mal is a fantastic leader, and courageous, and smart, and one big rascal. He knew and he loved it, but alas, complications.
The whole Chinese thing is that when the Earth was so bad that people had to leave it for space, the two major super powers were the US and China and the cultures sort of blended. That's why both languages and cultures are sort of meshed together.
Okay, about the Chinese. This is just a fan idea, it's by no means canon, but the way I always imagined it is that Firefly, Fallout, and Terra Nova are in the same universe. Just at wildly different times. Fallout's nuclear war would be before Terra Nova's "rich people stripped the planet of its resources" which is the "Earth-That-Was" from Firefly. The war from Fallout would be the war wherein the Chinese and the Americans became the last super powers on Earth, the same war in Somalia from Commander Taylor's past in TN. Once all of the resources were used up, some went back in time to restart, and some took off to the stars.
Who watches TV this way? "Oh my god, is that Clem Frobnitz? Clem Frobnitz? This must be long before he played that teenaged vampire in Millennial Douche when he was 37."
Re: the China thing. In case nobody else has explained it-- ( if someone has, youcan skip this post.) Joss' original plan was that the English speaking, and Chinese, cultures were almost all that was left of Earth culture. English was the language of the upper class; the working folks spoke Chinese. That had to be adjusted a little, of course-- the actors and the audience were English speaking. And of course, the Chinese fit in pretty well. Any cussing or strongly emotional reaction could be expressed in Chinese, therefore reducing the issue of censorship. And of course, we can get the meaning from context. There are internet sites that give the translation- some of them are pretty clever, or funny.
Reason for the Chinese is because the Chinese and USA were the only superpowers left and when we resettled space it took both counties to do it...so the language and culture blended by fireflys time line
All the humans in this place came from Earth. Colony ships were sent out from multiple nations. The large system of worlds in the show were colonized by ships from the US and from China. The two cultures colonized the planets and moons and the cultures cross merged. When you show up on a barren world, two cultures both bring their own stuff...but they need other stuff the OTHER culture has...and that other culture needs things the first culture has...Trade, commerce and eventually the two divergent cultures...merge. Hence, Chinese/US (with a touch of Europe) planetary culture. They might have been fighting each other way back on Old Earth but out here in the frontier, you have to "get along."
One of the things missed in watching the streaming version of this was the intro opening that was done by Shepherd Book and Malcolm Reynolds. So you need it to get you in the groove for the show. this is the Book version and not the best but maybe someone knows where a better version is. th-cam.com/video/gDaopirdKAk/w-d-xo.html
Seems less about an oxidizer, but more about extreme temperature. Rapid heating could cause the ammunition to cook off. Freezing could cause the weapon to jam.
Jane specifically mentions that Vera needs air around her. Most modern firearms the primer and powder will oxidize and can be fired in a vacuum. Here is it probably done for Hollywood reasons.
I just assumed that they were trying to be incognito... didn't want the pirates to see that they were planning an attack. But as Erik Greene implied, maybe there are no real answers and we can just chalk this one up to Hollywood being Hollywood.
While the Sheppards comments are comical in this episode I dont get it considering they were technically married so how is sleeping with your wife a sin?
Likely on account of his thinking she wouldn't of been of age for it somewhere round Earth That Was... Either in form or mind. Mite hypocritical on account of all the local Scripture she's calling, but...
"If your hand touches metal, I swear by my pretty floral bonnet I will end you." One of the best lines ever
"If someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back"
Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
One of my favorite lines in an episode FULL of favorite lines.
That whole damn scene was funny 😂 & definitely one of my favorite lines too
The SPECIAL hell.
This episode is chock full of iconic lines.
To this day, everytime I see Christina Hendricks in something my first thought is "It's Mrs Reynolds"
8:58 You laughed that you felt so juvenile laughing at the jokes. Mal and Jayne are 12 at heart. Did you catch the joke with Badger in Shindig? About ten minutes into Shindig, Badger is talking about the ball that Harrow will be at. Badger says "Course, you couldn't buy an invite with a diamond the size of a testicle. I got my hands on a couple." Mal and Jayne look at each other and snicker. Badger angrily says "Of invites." Cracks me up every time I see it and the same for this ep. Special hell. :)
I love how Book instantly understood what a "net" was. An early indicator of Book's unexplored depths.
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle".
"Well, isn't that ... Special"
"You Brute!"
So many great one liners in this episode.
"Woa good myth."
"the *special* hell"
"That's why I don't kiss them on the mouth."
"What's it say in there about divorce?" The timing of that line is perfect, love it!
Side note - I LOVE that whenever they are in space (outside ship), there is not noise, no sound. Really neat detail.
Great point 👌👍😁
The trouble with most comedy shows and movies is that after you’ve seen them a few times, the jokes get stale. I only discovered “Firefly” a few years ago too, but I’ve watched OMR at least 20 times and the lines never fail to crack me up. “The SPECIAL Hell!” “But she was naked! And all...articulate!” “Then...can I know her?” Joss Whedon has proven himself to a total assclown in recent years, but I still love this show.
Joss totally played with our love for the crew and handed us, like you correctly said, a stand alone funny episode that told us more about the crew and how they depend on each other. More bonding and moving the story along while entertaining us. One of my favorites. It gets better.
"I call her Vera." - Jayne
Rumor has it, if she dresses up pretty, Jayne will take her places.
I’ll be in my bunk.
"That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth."
The look on Kaylee's face when he said that was hilarious
"...madly in love with a beautiful women who can kill me with her pinky" Hoben "Wash" Washburne
I love the attention to detail. In a vacuum, there's no sound except on comms and the music played on top. But in the places with atmosphere, they get the bangs and sparks and such.
It's so much fun to watch this with someone who clearly enjoys as much as I did the first time!!!
Mike Peters I thought that too! He enjoyed as much as we did the first time!! I wonder if he went back and watched it again like we did? 🤣
I'm living vicariously through people who watch firefly for the first time.
and this is why we wanted more.
Dude, I'm so glad you're doing this - I feel like I'm reliving my first watch vicariously and it's got me grinning and loving it.
Welcome to the browncoats! :D
You love that the Chinese was written that way, whereas the actors hated having to learn Chinese. :D
You call it childish to laugh at those jokes. I call it good writing, and production to bring your emotions to a child-like state.
One thing I noticed a while ago that still impresses me is how they include the Chinese. By context, a lot of the Chinese seems to be ppl swearing. So it's like they found a way to swear on tv without having it bleeped out or something. Which I find really cool and intriguing and kinda brilliant. It also gives an idea of what the world was like before all the space travel. China and the US seem to have been the main powers
Jayne and Vera, still a better love story than Twilight 😂
I know you’re joking, but um . . . No!
Frickin Christina Hendricks, man. Love her. So sassy!
Dream date!
"If someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back."
Jaynes gun is from Showtime with Eddie Murphy and Robert DeNiro (also feat. William Shatner)
This is my favourite episode
I might be mistaken, but I don't believe there was a really whimsical reasoning behind the heavy use of Chinese, but more of a practical approach. The prologue to Firefly/Serenity(mentioned in the opening a few times if memory serves) is essentially that humanity overwhelmed Earth and had to spread out into space to continue to grow and survive. With that huge diaspora of people, a huge percentage of which would be Chinese(around 20% of current humanity is Chinese), so that would be one of the most logical common tongues to adopt to allow communication with the largest number of people. It makes sense, but it's still really cool that they considered that aspect of how our species would change after kinda being scattered to the four winds in the event of an exodus.
Three weeks and you're already halfway through...
It's a crime there were so few episodes.
This is my favorite episode. Everything works perfectly and it has so many great lines. Love it!
By the way, the Blu-ray has a great commentary track for this episode with Joss, Nathan, Alan, and Ron Glass. They even have dinner together where they share anecdotes and ideas for unfilmed episodes.
Little detail, Jayne shoots the part to take out the net, then shoots the window to the control room to kill the guys.
I never noticed that shot at the control room!
@@SelenaSea lol it took me a few viewings to catch that little detail, but I'm glad I did.
It was so much fun watching you enjoy this episode!! It’s one of my favorites in terms of enjoyment! Thanks for an awesome reaction!
@Jeffmccobb I am a fan of the next two episodes 7 and 8 above all the rest. I think they are the reason this show clicked with so many people.Looking forward to your reactions.
Absolutely agree!
The writing in this show is incredible. The literary references are amazing too.
In this episode, as Saffron attempts to seduce Wash she says: _"My whole life, I saw nothing but roofs and steeples and the _*_cellar door_*_ . A few days I'll be back to that life and gone from yours. Make this night what it should be. Please? Show me the stars."_
'Cellar door' is considered the most beautiful phrase in the English language because of its phonaesthetic quality (its spoken beauty with no regard to meaning). Saffron's training as a companion, later identified by Inara, evidently taught her the power of beautiful language in seduction. Wash: _"Whoa. Good myth."_
The phrase might also be hinting at some of Saffron's backstory - was she enslaved in some way in the past, being locked behind a cellar door? Does that go some way to explaining the life she leads now? We'll never know how this character may have developed in future episodes.
Interestingly, the reference could also be a nod to the 2001 movie _Donnie Darko_ where the superior sound of 'cellar door' is mentioned in one scene - and then, in a later scene, an actual cellar door features as a time-twisting portal.
Very interesting. This character is one I would have loved to have seen develop more. Perhaps something happens where she redeems herself with Mal and is accepted into the crew. With her . . . assets 😮 and other abilities she could be a plus in their line of work. Of course, she would probably always be a female version of Jayne - you would never really know what would happen when the money is good enough.
You're not alone I still find this episode funny & still enjoy it
I love the lens through which you view this series. I’ve watched Firefly countless times and am in my second viewing of your reaction to it. You bring enthusiasm and savvy to your analysis without ever coming off unauthentic or jaded - a problem with many react channels. Please keep it up!
Ahh, so much fun see your reactions. Sure the ep may be a little juvenile but it is hilarious. After 6 of 14 episodes you have now seen two of my top 7. 🤗
I was completely fooled by her too, until she revealed herself to us.
I frickin love Jayne... Honestly, every character is great. Awesome show. And Nathan Fillion is so perfect as Mal.
Plot twist... Saffron isn't little miss innocent. Great scene btwn her & Inara lol. It's also one of my fav episodes.
Point of interest, the translator who was 'trying' to get them speaking Chinese did a lot of research for actual current swearing phrases to use in the episodes.. Sounds good even if they didn't get the enunciation all correct like lol
They even prepared recordings of pronunciations. Some of the cast didn't listen to them (and it shows)
Tracy Cameron I think it worked out to be more “authentic” than it would’ve been if the would’ve gotten in correct. Language changes so quickly and if they really are that comfortable with the phrases/language then they would make it their own (look at how Americans use English as an example. We don’t care if it’s “corrrect”, it’s how we say it! Lol)
Perhaps my favorite episode, anything with Christina Hendrickson is I am going to like.
They never got divorced and they're both still living, so technically they're still married.
Yeah, Mal says as much later when he runs into her again lol. Er, I mean, when he runs into Bridget
@@ItsAsparageese Spoiler, dude.
YoSaffBridge
Um... that's assuming Mal was the first she married, which I doubt.
@@migmit You're assuming that Polygamy isn't a thing on that planet where they got married. Could be perfectly legal for someone to be married to more than one person.
I love reliving Firefly with your first pass. Keep it up, and thanks.
I've never researched it, and maybe this has been discussed/clarified at some point in an interview or panel: in that final scene between Mal and Inara, it always gave me pause (just like it did with Inara). Mal *can* be pretty clueless at times, but he is also shown to be particularly clever in his own way. And Mal certainly loves his pranks, and keeping Inara on her heels. So I've enjoyed musing whether Mal was truly just that dense, or if he was just purposely setting Inara up for the "I knew you let her kiss you," line.
I vote for the latter. Mal was not that dense. He knew Jayne betrayed Simon and River before he had any definitive proof. And he did love his pranks. He told Simon Kaylee died, for instance, with a dead serious face! I think he said that to Inara just to see her reaction and as payback for being so cheeky about refusing to admit she kissed him.
At the end of "Earth that was" only two significant powers remained in the world. The United States and China. As a result the languages mingled some people speak primarily English and some Chinese and vice versa.
I love it😍 I love that you’re excited about this show.
One thing though you don't actually need air around a firearm to use it in space they work fine in a vacuum
6:05 "I did not see that coming!" That's What She Said 😂
johnny dollar 🤣🤣🤣
I'm sure you didn't recognize Vera. It's the same prop from the movie Showtime with Robert De Niro and Eddie Murphy
It's funny that you thought this was stand alone, I had that impression too.
I'm calling for a Jeff singing the Firefly theme song music video when finishes series. Do we have a second? 🙋
I second. And he has to sing both verses used in the show. I'm told there are more verses, but I don't know if they are official.
Hmmm ... Maybe would could do a Zoom sing-a-long.
🙋
@@Sally_Anne if you look up "Mal's theme song" you'll find it ;)
Alright peeps... We got 3...let's keep going lol
Dont forget the Shepherd is alum ftom "Barney Miller." Nobody ever catches the widow statement.
There are translations on TH-cam of all the Chinese swearing that was done on the show. Some of them are pretty funny.
stonecoldku OMG!! Where?
@@marrenby I'm sorry but I'm having trouble finding the video again. It was awhile ago and it was titled something like "Smart ways to get around TV censors" or "Cool ways shows got around censors", but I've tried those and have come up empty. It might have been pulled for copyright or TH-cam Censorship or something. There is a website that I found that is fireflychinese.com They give translations on there and rate how well the actors actually pronounced them.
stonecoldku Thanks for looking!! Stay safe and healthy!!
@@marrenby No problem and you too.
stonecoldku There’s also an App with the the translations
You should watch the deleted scene
how River reacts to the the captain now being married
If i remember right the Chinese influence is because the makers tried to make it realistic knowing English is already the universal language but believed the china would have a massive influence on human culture in the future
I love this episode!!!
"That's why I never kiss em on the mouth"
Next episode....Jayne....lol...can’t wait to see your reaction....🤣🤣🤣
Incase no one has explained it yet... when humans colonized the space they're in it was primarily American and Chinese settlers. Over the generations their cultures merged.
the special hell
One minor point: "Vera needs air around her in order to fire." Yeah, no. No firearm using self-contained cartridge-based ammunition needs air. The oxidizer is contained in the gunpowder, and the powder in the sealed cartridge is ignited by the spark from the cap when struck by the hammer of the gun. As long as Vera is not a flintlock, she can fire just fine in vacuum.
True enough, but the rifling in the gun barrel would be useless in a vacuum, vastly reducing any firearm’s accuracy.
@@daveolson6001 Perhaps, but in a microgravity environment, the round's weight wouldn't cause it to drop; it would maintain a straight-line, purely ballistic flight path at the velocity initially imparted by the charge explosion. It wouldn't necessarily need spin stabilization.
Don’t feel badly. Everyone loves this epiaode
Your "Holy Shit" reaction at about 6:04. Baaaahahahaha!
Inara didn’t think they were going to kiss, she was afraid Mal had figured out that she kissed him.
Spill the wine take that girl.
What's really weird about the title is, no reactor I've ever seen ever thinks, "This could be about Mal's mother". The only problem I've had with your reactions is that every single episode of this series is heavily driven by witty dialog, yet you stomp all over a LOT of really great lines. I sincerely hope that, by now (2 years later), that you've gone back and rewatched these episodes like all of us have, and just listened to the brilliant lines being laid down all over this show. If you don't, you're doing a disservice to yourself.
BTW, about the final Mal-Inara scene, EVERYONE falls for the thought that Mal is an idiot, but you really have to think about it to understand, Mal knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He and Inara have 2 incompatible directions in life, and he knows they can never be as long as that's true. She's a companion ... an occupation that Mal could NEVER let continue if they were to get together, and Inara's really independent ... forcing her, either verbally or by her own accord for the sake of the relationship would NEVER work and WOULD eventually come back to destroy their relationship. So, he took the ONLY course of action he could ... and that is to poke fun at it, and he did it so brilliantly that he left her unsure about what he really meant. Look at her face again with this in mind. Either way, Mal not only figured out what she did, but he used it to give them both a way out of admitting anything. He HAD to because they both know that, at least for now, there's no way it was time, or that it would've worked out in this moment.
So, don't beat yourself up over it, everyone except apparently me misunderstood that ending. I can't figure out why ... not if you really think about Mal's personality, quick wits and protective nature. He's always trying to protect his crew, from any and all threats, even emotional ones. And then, of course, there's the general rule in all great shows, the resident pair of lovelorn characters NEVER get together, because that would destroy the sexual tension. You have this in all the greats like Gunsmoke, where Matt and Kitty had such an affair (or non-affair) for well over 10 years, and each week or so, they'd play into that to get people's hopes up. It's actually 1 of the things that kept people tuning in each week ... to see if they'd give into it ... not the ONLY thing, but 1 of them.
Yep. What you said about Mal and Inara. Mal is a fantastic leader, and courageous, and smart, and one big rascal. He knew and he loved it, but alas, complications.
@@Audra1964 'preciate it 🤟👍😊!!!
Have you been reading John Ringo's Troy Rising? Canoodling?
Jane and Vera make a better love story than Twilight.
Jane and his rain stick make a better love story than Twilight.
I think this is the best Christina Haskins has ever looked.
The whole Chinese thing is that when the Earth was so bad that people had to leave it for space, the two major super powers were the US and China and the cultures sort of blended. That's why both languages and cultures are sort of meshed together.
These reviews hurt my heart! You are leaving out some of the iconic lines! - "I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you"
Deleted scene for this episode is hilarious
Okay, about the Chinese.
This is just a fan idea, it's by no means canon, but the way I always imagined it is that Firefly, Fallout, and Terra Nova are in the same universe. Just at wildly different times. Fallout's nuclear war would be before Terra Nova's "rich people stripped the planet of its resources" which is the "Earth-That-Was" from Firefly. The war from Fallout would be the war wherein the Chinese and the Americans became the last super powers on Earth, the same war in Somalia from Commander Taylor's past in TN. Once all of the resources were used up, some went back in time to restart, and some took off to the stars.
6:01 haha I don't think anyone saw it coming.
Who watches TV this way? "Oh my god, is that Clem Frobnitz? Clem Frobnitz? This must be long before he played that teenaged vampire in Millennial Douche when he was 37."
Re: the China thing. In case nobody else has explained it-- ( if someone has, youcan skip this post.) Joss' original plan was that the English speaking, and Chinese, cultures were almost all that was left of Earth culture. English was the language of the upper class; the working folks spoke Chinese. That had to be adjusted a little, of course-- the actors and the audience were English speaking. And of course, the Chinese fit in pretty well. Any cussing or strongly emotional reaction could be expressed in Chinese, therefore reducing the issue of censorship. And of course, we can get the meaning from context. There are internet sites that give the translation- some of them are pretty clever, or funny.
And please do Buffy and Angel and Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog and Dollhouse next!
Reason for the Chinese is because the Chinese and USA were the only superpowers left and when we resettled space it took both counties to do it...so the language and culture blended by fireflys time line
Dude. You skipped over one of the best lines ever without reacting.
They speak Chinese when they want to swear. It was a way of getting passed the censors! 🤣
Part of the reason behind the chinese is that they weren't allowed to curse in english but they could in chinese, i know im a bit late but✌
OMG so f*cking good.
All the humans in this place came from Earth. Colony ships were sent out from multiple nations. The large system of worlds in the show were colonized by ships from the US and from China. The two cultures colonized the planets and moons and the cultures cross merged. When you show up on a barren world, two cultures both bring their own stuff...but they need other stuff the OTHER culture has...and that other culture needs things the first culture has...Trade, commerce and eventually the two divergent cultures...merge. Hence, Chinese/US (with a touch of Europe) planetary culture. They might have been fighting each other way back on Old Earth but out here in the frontier, you have to "get along."
"she just wants to be your Amish space wife, bro"
Every budding writer and director should study this series to learn how to tell a story.
One of the things missed in watching the streaming version of this was the intro opening that was done by Shepherd Book and Malcolm Reynolds. So you need it to get you in the groove for the show. this is the Book version and not the best but maybe someone knows where a better version is. th-cam.com/video/gDaopirdKAk/w-d-xo.html
Here is Malcolm Reynolds opening. th-cam.com/video/eZxpKOv0dAc/w-d-xo.html
You gotta admit this is a very entertaining series, worth its cult following.
But don't presume any episode is purely standalone.
My wife and I favorite.
They snuck a lot of explicit swearing through in Chinese
who the what now?
Get the series. Watch it then comment.
The china thing is easy. It's in one of the cast videos. In the timeline the 2 superpowers left on earth are USA and China.
Inara, me thinks you does't protest too much.
Not sure why they put Vera in a spacesuit though, guns do not require air and should work just fine in space.
Some guns do, apparently, and Vera was one of those. Most don't, you're right.
Seems less about an oxidizer, but more about extreme temperature. Rapid heating could cause the ammunition to cook off. Freezing could cause the weapon to jam.
@@Dularr perhaps
Jane specifically mentions that Vera needs air around her. Most modern firearms the primer and powder will oxidize and can be fired in a vacuum. Here is it probably done for Hollywood reasons.
I just assumed that they were trying to be incognito... didn't want the pirates to see that they were planning an attack. But as Erik Greene implied, maybe there are no real answers and we can just chalk this one up to Hollywood being Hollywood.
Most of the Chinese is swearing
While the Sheppards comments are comical in this episode I dont get it considering they were technically married so how is sleeping with your wife a sin?
Likely on account of his thinking she wouldn't of been of age for it somewhere round Earth That Was...
Either in form or mind.
Mite hypocritical on account of all the local Scripture she's calling, but...