There is a simple solution for the Kop extension which I have commented on previously. Walton Breck Road behind the Kop is always put forward as the major obstacle to any Kop expansion, but its a simple solution to divert the road to through the land where the Church and Park pub are located. This diversion can be on a permanent or temporay basis while the Kop is buult over the current line of the road before reopening it. The road is definitely not too wide to build over, its a simple solution. LFC already own most of the land opposite the Kop. The staging area for such works is the area of vacant land behind the Main Stand. I would suggest a 4 tier car park be built over the Stanley Road car park also.
The Kop and the SKD were always going to be redeveloped. Its just a matter of time. Everyone said the Main Stand couldn't be done, thwn we did it. Then we were told the ARE couldn't be done, then we did that too. Times change. Obstacles can and will be overcome. Looking at the surrounding areas, the Kop is clearly the next logical redevelopment step. It would be fantastic to make it the biggest rail-seated end in world football. We thankfully committed to staying at our world famous home, so it deserves nothing less than continual improvement.
Great work... Agree we shouldn't pressure families to leave but we could pay significantly over the value to encourage them..... Or pay a figure and also buy them an alternative house to help move them quicker. At the end of the day a huge Kop would cover this extra outlay.
With the Kop End being preferred choice it gives LFC more time to tread carefully with the homes and streets behind SKD stand, this will be a talking point for years to come I feel
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey A club as large as LFC with global recognition should be able to build a 70-80k seat stadium. A club that large *should also be able to restructure the town around it.
Great work GB lad. Makes 100% sense to upgrade both stands, but the Kop is the easiest to complete in my opinion. It might cost north of 100 mill, maybe even 200 mill. We all know the valus of the club will most likely increase by 500 mill, so makes financial sense to the money men at the club. Let the planning committee start to plan, and add another 5000 seats.
Looking at the vacant land opposite the club shop, & up to the terraced houses where home baked is. It looks like they are planning to divert Walton Breck Road. So from where the vacant land that starts at Burleigh Road South to the vacant houses at home baked, looks possible they diverting like they did with Annie Road stand. Just would need to obtain the church or move the church. Obviously once the road is moved or plans in place for that they possibly works are begin to remove & rebuild the Kop
In my opinion, to compete with Europe's elite, Anfield certainly needs extending further. Domestically both City, Chelsea and United are looking at further expansion. Our waiting list is already expanding. Problems could be logistic and lets not ignore the local residents. For me, 70k - 75k would be ideal
The church, pubs and business could all be rebuilt in a modern fashion on the land to the left of the Kop as you look at it. Almost like an Anfield biz park.
I wasn't expecting any plans for 2-3 decades but it doesn't surprise me with how FSG operate that they're already looking at how to expand further, I have no idea how the council would agree to a Kop expansion with it being a main road behind but I guess there's always a way🤔 dalglish stand would sure make sense to be the next one
The problem is -- and always has been -- that you get one muppet who thinks they can make a fortune by refusing to sell until the very last minute (even though they don't want to live there) and will hold the club to ransom. The more fans publicise this "Isle of Man" scheme, the more zeros that are added on to the sale price of the last house.
Very good point, however you only pay what the value of the property is. After all everything will be given a value after the properties are surveyed. Once there is a value, then maybe add another 50k or buy the current owners a bigger 3 or 4 bed house, down the road and refurbish the property. Personally I think the club should double the value of the current properties and watch them fly out of the oven like hot cakes.
If someone doesn’t want to move then that’s fine. I’m a red and we can always obtain a compulsory order for the properties that are required. It’s not an issue, they’re buying the properties for redevelopment of the Kop. Skerries road will take care of itself. Kop in 2026/7 SKD 2030.
Sorry, but if you knew you were going to be haggled on the price of your house you'd do the same thing when you know the buyer has bags of dough and desperately want to buy you out. Id do the same
With the spare land available not directly within the footprint of an expanded Kop, then relocating the business, homes and church seems relatively easy. The road could be then diverted like Anfield Road and the Kop extended in one large tier backwards.
With a bit of creativity the road is an easy fix. It can be excavated and lowered then covered up with pre-fabricated panels to save downtime. That will leave so much ground level space to expand the cop. Its been done in several countries so I don't see why not
Well done GB you make a lot of opinions on your video thanks for update anfield with you and kc we are coming more pupolar and more well done keep your good work YNWA .
Any rebuild to the Kop would need a whole new roof design and for the roof to be lifted upwards so when you are on back row, you get a brilliant view of rest of stadium. It is like a post box in sections 304 to 306 currently.
Yeah it would deffo be great to open the whole stadium up, only been in 304 a couple of times and certainly don't miss that block, 205 was my block for around 10 seasons
On the old Spion Kop it was like a post box from the back by the stairs/toilets. You couldn't see much of the rest of the ground. The important thing was seeing the pitch.
it's the same at the top of the main stand and the new ARS. Disappointing but I'm guessing the cost of increasing the height of the roof to improve the viewing experience of a few hundred supporters in what are already the cheapest seats wasn't worth it.
The only way to expand the Kop would be to bury the road behind. That's an A road and major thoroughfare. Even then the church is a major obstacle. The Kenny is the most likely but that will be a major undertaking.
because most people in houses don' t want to move. Especially if they own it. It could have memories that mean you have to way over pay to get them out making paying everyone infeasible. if you spent your life to buy a place and somebody just wants to come an level your memories you might not be amenable.
Thanks for posting this GB, just had a look at google maps @ road A5089 Oakfield Road, @ your time stamp 9.58 you have an overhead shot of A5089, my hunch on the distance the houses that are boarded up and the land available further up A5089, LFC ******* may ******* have achieved an alteration in the road, nothing major ! just ease the road over to where the houses are, then the new road would run parallel with the old one, hence allowing depth for the new Kop stand, Yep "controversial " with the church, a relocation package with enormity would be provided, just my thoughts !
I think you are right, easiest way is to just tweak the road over and rebuild the church as close as possible to the Community. what about the pub though as I thought the owners got it grade listed, maybe they can lift the build up and move it forward
@@ecohipster7724 Some listed buildings can be demolished, or heavily altered, depending on circumstances, English Heritage is the place to find out about that, how old it is, history, many things make up a grade ! Without researching I wouldn’t guess, but I think it will all go eventually, massive relocation package!!!!!!!!
@@markbusby9709 I believe they got it listed as local historical significance being in front of the kop from the early days of the stadium but im not 100% on it
Nice Wayne 👍👍. Like ALL Liverpool Fans of course we what the KOP & SKD Stands done now, but oversee that is not possible. But I think within the next 2 to 3 years a New build on the KOP will happen with careful planning and great design. it might be a long way off but time does flying and hopefully in the next 12 to 15 years or less the SKD Stand will be done 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤔🤔🤔 Us Liverpool 🔴Fans have to BELIEVE 👍👍 YNWA Sparky 🍻🍻
Kope can be raised in height while keeping the same footprint in depth. No need to close the road or re route it long term. Will be short term disruption when works are being done. SKD stand is the most problematic, it will go the way of the main stand, awaiting house purchases etc.
If the Kop becomes a matter of when than if, do we adjoin it with the main stand or do we leave it as free standing? In the meantime we should do what United did and also connect the main stand and anfield road together. 5k, maybe even 10k people could slot in
I still remember those two old Dears in the street from the old Kemlyn Road who refused to move. I think we waited until one passed away. If they can re-route the traffic, they could do ‘something’ I’ve just watched The Overlap, with Rafa on and he makes that problem LFC have had for 35 years…Man Utd get 75,000 per home game…we are catching up, but from 89 we were 44,000…add that fan money up from then to now, we could have built a new Stadium… I was always up for that idea of Both LFC/EFC building a San Siro with 100k attendance. The thousands of fans who used to wake up on a Saturday and decide to go the match! The clubs were up for it, but fanbase’s rubbished it! One thing I would say, it would have to be like the Main Stand, it wouldn’t be right if they two tiered it… I’ve been saying it for years…the money we’ve lost must be Billions next to Man U…
I think the intention had always been to upgrade all 4 stands. Now, with 2 of the 4 stands having had their upgrade completed its really just a question of do they do stages 3 & 4 together in order to get it all done or do they simply continue to do a stand at a time. And, there's something saying to me at the back of my mind that especially given the fact that while redeveloping each of the two stands already done both construction companies Carillion and The Buckingham Group went into administration. So, I think it's better to just err on the side of caution given the current financial climate.
Do we think it’s likely that skd stand will be reduced by 2-3k seats to accommodate leg room, therefore allowing a bigger Kop expansion before the 65k+ seats rule?
it's amazing to think that a building that will house 60-70 thousand people in and around it on matchdays is allowed amongst the houses.. we're lucky the fans nowadays aren't like those in the 80s but who knows what will happen in the future.. it is a big risk to try to contain that many fans if things break out..
They need to turn Walton Breck Rd into a tunnel going past Anfield, & that solves a lot of issues. Said tunnel could also house a train station. *Big engineering projects like that happen all the time.
Sounds good to me, if the road has to remain then sounds like the only ways but is possible, like you say we have seen mega projects like this over roads all the time but maybe not as much with football stands in the plans, I would of thought the train station or at least a platform would of been suited just behind Annie road at edge of Stanley park 🤔
I would love to see the KOP rebuilt in exact the same way and size as the Annie Road end, would create more spaces and also symmetry and general lift to the hotch-potch of lopsided stands. BUT as stated before somethin needs to be done about the traffic situation in L4 on match days. There needs to be a train/underground station or two nearby, also rerouting the Walton Breck Road behind the Kop End - can it be done, would be a great and needed lift for the entire L4-area.
Isnt another obstacle that a further increase in capacity would require better routes to and from the stadium like a train platform or tram service etc? Its difficult match days to get away or even back into the city.
Hi GB,great vid as usual,nice to see at least one of you sticking around till the end,when ever that may be.If they do decide to go ahead with the kop/Sir Kenny stand I think they'd have to redirect the rd first otherwise it would cause havoc around Anfield,so I think it will be a few years down the line and a lot of planning to do it right.YNWA
Thank you so much, I'm certainly in it till the end and I'm doing a follow on vid about this expansion soon focusing on the transport network as this will have to be priority before any big expansion, YnWa mate 👍
They couldn't even be arsed filling the corners in in ARE. As the support structures and stansions for the MS and SKD would need demolishing, theyve only just installed the MS. Likewise with the Kop. Its a great stadium but in a twat of a pickle constructively.
we have times that almost everythink is possible its not 1960 anymore the money and determination gonna make further expansion happen but the real deal is it all needs TIME... and GOD knows how much time it needs.... i hope its not gonna be like 8 years... maybe like 3/4 years we gonna see some designs etc and in like maybe 5 years the expansion can start.... lets wait and see..
The bottom half can be built be built higher and then can be built outwards were it jettisons, could over hang the road possibly not a structural engineer but just a thought?
Liverpool must win PL 5 years in a row in order for the city to approve transportation to Anfield. If that happen, expansion on King Kenny stand would not so difficult.
Just like i said we could have new expansion stand in 2-3 years later. And in 2030 we already have a new kop stand. Imagine that make me scary, How we beat Barcelona last time. With only 54k capacity Anfield. That's really loud match i ever see in Anfield. And with the New kop with big stand all liverpool rival would be Scared come to Anfield. Yeah for sure. The legendary Anfield will be remember forever. The louder stadium in the world Gosh! New kop in 2030 and New Kenny Dalglish stand in 2035 maybe. I hope it.
You Liverpool lads need 80:000 to 100:000 all seated stadium for going into the future hopefully us Celtic we get ours shortly think the are looking into it two big matches that hopefully it works out 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬✊✊
What about building the corners, higher, which means remove the bar and have other way of supporting the roofs. And Kop can be built, by having it higher where Albert Pub is, going down towards Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand/SkerriesRoad. I would like to get the corner built, that would give us another at least 5000 and a higher Kop end, near Main stand, would give another thousand, maybe 2-3000. Then we would have almost 70 000. YNWA
Another thing the can do is building KDS, more to Skerries Rd, on pillars, increasing the upper tier, with about 2-3000, as high as Main stand or ARE. That means Anfield would take more than 70 000, which means we can hold UCL finals etc there. The can still park cars there, like today, but underneath. As far as I know, Sun comes from the south, and KDS is northwest of the houses. Won't shade their gardens. If one goes northeast from Anfield, along Utting Ave, to the railway, to Ayrshire rd/Hildebrand Rd - Cherry Lane, they can build a train station there, open during matches, which is close enough, allowing us to expand Anfield. YNWA
I see the main issue being you cant see much close play action beyond the halfway line at the rear of the kop lvl 300. you'd have to make it much much steeper and a total and radical entire rebuild would be needed for that. I don't think its ever going to happen. revenue wise the increase would also be low as beyond level 300 would be a seriously restricted view.
If any expansion involves a regeneration of the area in conjuction with LCC , then any refusal to sell will result in a 'compulsory purchase order' , they did that to one of my families houses years ago, paid them peanuts !
I really hope they consider how to tackle the extra fans at the end of matches. I'm still able to whiz back to a car park space about a mile and a half away from the ground but there are thousands extra fans streaming into the nearby streets. I'm not saying build a tram because that infrastructure is crazy but what would be really easy to achieve is a multi layer electric bus/tram route that underneath the expanded Kop area would give people an initial getaway straight down Walton Breck the way people walk and then at least there is order for fans queuing other than the buses. You can't expect LCC to allow expanding any further until the club has a solution for improving the infrastructure. It's not just transport, it's water. Anyone my age will well remember the Kop Sewer collapse. They have to ensure they consider infrastructure and I'm pretty sure the council will be working with them on that. If it's to get a further 1-2k fans in the Kop end they wouldn't do it. If it's to create another area for fans to arrive and maximise the tourism with cafes and bars underneath the expanded stand - then they know they'll get a return. I just hope they provide community rooms and give first choice for local businesses so they benefit from the increase footfall. Unfortunately, for me selfishly, it slowly removes the pint and into the Kop routine I've always had. But I'm a minority in their fan profile now as they want people to spend money in the ground. Great topic and it's all in the distance as you quite rightly mention.
Transport would have to be included with any future large expansions as it would take us over that certain capacity which then would have to have a train link. Will be very costly for sure
Rebuilding the Kop is not feasible unless you want to put corporate seating in there… which is obviously not going to happen. The only other stand that can be expanded is the Kenny.
It will happen but not sure when. The club can't have a situation were The Kop is the smallest structure, in terms of height. It might have to be double decker or split level.
I'm wondering if they could build a tunnel where the main road currently is. Realistically it could be 5 years or more before the kop is expanded. It's nice to see things slowly happening though
I just wonder how many of the houses behind SKD LFC already own? There looks to be about 70 houses in the 3 rows behind SKD and i know it's families homes with memories etc but everyone has their price and if i was offered a million pound i would take it. £70-100m acquiring them isn't that much and the redeveloped stand would add that value to the club.
the trick was missed when building the main stand, it should have been built 20 yards further back from the pitch, then the Kop could have been extended by moving 20 yards across the pitch towards the new main stand since the road isn't a problem at that side of the Kop (knocked down the super store incorporate the pub under the stand). The Annie road stand was being rebuilt so likewise. An additional 20 yards means that the SKD could be moved forwards 20 yards and effectively "back" 20 yards and not encroach on the Skerries Road houses by retaining its present boundary. By doing this the corners could have been filled in to look great and not such random clusterf*** like today. The result would be a 75,000 seater Anfield - yes one stand at a time out of action per season, but after 3 seasons, job done and 75,000 super Anfield.
I'm not sure the planners would have allowed such a big stand to be closer to the houses on Alroy Road. The main stand is much bigger than the KDS and so needs to be set further back from the houses on Alroy Road to avoid it having an overbearing impact on the outlook of those dwellings. Likewise, any increase in height to the KDS would have an overbearing impact on the rear outlook and amenity space of the houses on Skerries Road. They also suffer from overshadowing as they are sited directly to the east of the KDS and so have lost all the sun in the afternoon.
Where can they expand ? Council parkland on one side.. Streets of terraced houses..privately owned on the other...the economic logistics would be a nightmare...should have relocated like Everton and built from scratch...as Man Utd are going to do...albeit alongside their current stadium...
Has been talk but it would have to happen if any other large expansion happens, probably would need planning first before the expansion if ever happens
With today engineering I think that the road behind the Kop Can Be move. The only business are the Pie shop and the Church So the only problem there would be the church. Also i think that if they can sorted the problem of the road behind the kop and come to a agreement with the residence Parking I Believe that it be two years when they start on the new Spion kop
I guess a Kop expansion will not possibly happen until the 2030's and the Sir Kenny Stand pribably by the 2040's.Either way plans and current thinking will probably alter several times over the next few years.id love the Kop to gow in size so it holds and replicates the yellow wall in Dortmund.i gess that would have to see it become steeper, taller and deeper in its depthThe new Kop needs to be capable of holding at least 20,000 seats so we need to add a further 8 000 to its current capacity.i guessxthis woukd need the shops, church,pubs and even the store shop needing to be demolished , which is the easy part to a Kop expansion, more difficult is the Walton Breck Road , can it be rerouted, woukd LCC allow this peesonally i dont think this should be a issue or problem and woukd be cheaper than tunnelling the road.If the reduction of the capaciry of the Sir Lenny is reduced over the next couple of years to facilitate extra leg room in the lower sir kenny and more modinised larger concurse favilities then this probably woukd reduce the cspscity of that stand by a couple of thousand seats and Anfield current capacity woukd drop to about 59,000 in that case the Kop simply has to be extended by 7,000 to 8,000 extra seats ad Anfield and LFC need a ground that can hold at least 66,000 as a bare minimum and i think the club can have a ground of that capacityvsize and fall within the current LCC guidlines re planning permission without having to upgrade the road network, transportation needsv( rail or trams) and increased and improved car parking facilities.If this can be acheived in the next 7 to 8 years then the club can finally look at the expansion of the Sir Kenny Stand so it replicates the size and capacity of the Main Stand as a mirror image and in turn add a further 9,000 seats to the ground capacity taking it to 75,000 which is the uze of a ground Liverpool should be operating with and could easily sell out with still a long and sizable season ticket wauting list.If this is to happen and be a project for the late 2030's or 2040's then hopefully by that time Anfield will have seen th neccessary redevelopment of the srea with better road and rail links etc and the houses in Skerries Road will all be under the ownership of Liverpool FC who could then generously move residents into other properties in the local area and demolish the houses in Skerries Road so allowing for the expansion of the Sir Kenny stand so it does hold and mirror the Main Stand andthe ground csn be symetrically a lot more pleasing on the eye with all 4 stands bevof a similar size. Lots to do and plan and we may have new owners and this take a further 25 to 20 years to do and complete but these plans should be part of the clubs log term ambitions and sitting with LCC so that it can form part of the council long term regeneration plan for the Anfield residential and commercial district
Kop needs to Mirror Anfield road and SKD stand mirror the main stand so it has some kind of modern symmetry and not look like Frankenstein’s laboratory with 4 mismatched stands.
Kop needs to be one tier stand or it's not a kop so can't mirror anfield road. Just needs to be built steaper if possible or extended further back if possible when time is right which could be years
As a mate pointed out to me the other day, isn't the thing stopping any further expansion the transport links and not buying up the houses? Don't they need to have trams or rail links in place to get any further planning permission for expansion?
They will have to be a rail link for certain if any big expansion takes place, over 65 thousand I think is the number but if LFC are quietly buying houses I'm guessing they would of asked questions about the rail link also, either ways it going to be costly, be a lot of talking with LCC and the Anfield community if and when time is right, probably be a lot of terms and conditions in place but it's going to be years down the line I feel even if houses are getting brought when vacated
Hi wayne tried sending you an e-mail but it came back as could not be delivered is the e-mail in your bio still being used, it was a very rough photoshop of how the area would look without the buildings and how a reroute of the road is possible.
Common sense dictates that further expansion of the stadium will eventually be necessary, if it is not possible then remaining at Anfield was a huge mistake, one which no owners would contemplate. The Kop should be next for redevelopment whilst the club continues to purchase the properties required to allow for the SKD demolition and rebuild.
@@keybenson wait they're that road is a main road for buses schools business's and general traffic between the north and south end if the city . Which is more important than Liverpool football club.
Three thoughts: One: what's possible in terms of pure engineering when it comes to just building the Kop seating and roof back from its current footprint? To what extent can such a structure be supported by things like strong foundations and struts etc? ie, does any building even NEED to be done in terms of extending the footprint? Two: The present stand isn't adjacent to the road. Why not build back so that the entire stand is adjacent, and therefore no longer symmetrical? You could raise the roof and put additional rows where possible (ie more and more as you go towards the Main Stand). That's actually quite a big area. Probably enough for 4-5k more seats (a total rebuild would probably only yield about 8k anyway - much more isn't really feasible for an end stand. For those worried about aesthetics: the roof can be made low enough (as it is right now) that the asymmetry is never actually seen from inside the ground. Three: what's the deal with planning? The issue with going above ~60k was always traffic/transport - is there any fundamental change in that area? Or is this all just wishful thinking?
Don't Liverpool still own the land where the hotel was going to be built? Liverpool could easily build new premises for those businesses over there. Maybe the road could go down, ie motorway underpass sections joined together.
The perfect way they should of done it instead of buying out all the houses and streets. Played at Anfield and built the new stadium on Stanley park the Kop directly behind Anfield Road Stadium and the main stadium on Arkles Road. Then knock down the old stadium keeping some of the stadium standing like the coaches boxes and goals and kop for heritage purposes, food stalls and LFC shop and turned it into a gathering area for supporters before kickoff. You got to buy out 3 rows of houses to expand SKD stand and buy off the road behind the kop and church to expand that also, waste of money and we still don’t have a stadium as big as MU or Arsenal.
@ Arenal already looking into expanding to 75,000 Spurs is 63,000 now MU are looking into 100,000 Man City are expanding to 62,000. The main stand they bought those houses in 1990s the stand wasn’t completed in 2016. Even Klopp said the stadium is small and so do we all. Once the new Utd stadium is built Utd will come back and rule the league for the next 1/4 century like they did before. Spectators ring money, money brings players and coaches and that brings trophies
Why would they need those houses to make the Kopp bigger they have all ready said if they did the Kopp it would just be a second tear above the old one just like the Anfeild road
Because them houses are behind SKD stand which needs expanding aswell 👍it's going to be a long process so good to see the club actually planning ahead even if nothing is done anytime soon
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey really hope You are right, we need to get closer to 70k if we are to compete with the other bigger clubs in the UK and in Europe!
It would be fantastic if they did but the amount of money it would cost I think it would be about 300 million or around there, could you see fsg spending that amount of money and it could be a lot more then that.
But why would the club be buying houses on Skerries for any Kop expansion? They won't come into play for that. Also. Homebaked own those tinned up houses at the junction of Walton Breck Road/Oakfield Road featured in your video! And they have serious plans to redevelop them themselves as family homes. These are the houses that need to be purchased (and knocked down) for the road (WBR) behind the Kop to be totally moved back for any Kop expansion. 🤔🧐
Buying houses on skerries road would be for skd expansion when ever that would be. Just a long process but club prefer the kop to be expanded first. Buying out house on skerries road and neighbouring streets at this rate will take years, decades like I said so why not start now at the same time preparing for a possible Kop Expansion
@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey yeah I see what you mean now. Hopefully the owners are future proofing the immediate areas for both stands to be eventually done. 👍
You mentioned your difficulty in obtaining tickets for games. I haven't been to a game since Roger's was manager. Can't get a ticket. I was born in Anfield and have lived in Liverpool all my life. My grandparents used to lodge players in their house in Harrow Rd back in the 60s. Unfortunately the club has been taken away from us as local people. We don't spend hundreds of pounds in the club shop before games and refuse to pay inflated prices for tickets. The fact is we're not wanted, as the club can bring in more revenue with the foreign fans. The game is all about money now. Sad but true.
Liverpool arena definitely need and upgrade. It looks like a dump yard. Soon Everton will have an arena that will shine over the dump yard that Liverpool has. You will look like a second hand club.
The infrastructure around anfield is terrible. The transport links to and from the ground from the city on match days is awful. You wait ages for a bus and hope you get on or you spend an hour walking to town. Needs an anfield train/tram line and a more direct route to town. I believe this is a bit part of what is stopping further expansion of the kop.
The transport link will certainly have to be priority if any further expansion happen even though none are planned but still houses are getting brought out so I'm guessing it will be years maybe decades if kop is done next
don't extend - don't change the shape of the Kop, just renovate the Kop inside. Extend the Daglish Stand [ add 9k as we did with the main stand ] after we buy the three rows of the houses behind the Daglish stand, and then fill the two corners at Anfield stand [ left- right, 2k each ], so we can have 74k., plus a bit from the Kop renovation [ standing ]. A bit more than 74k people are enough, we don't need bigger crowd..
Good Vid GB, whatever happens with The Kop Redevelopment we must insure Rayner Rowen are no where near the project! They are just as bad as Buckingham.
There is a simple solution for the Kop extension which I have commented on previously. Walton Breck Road behind the Kop is always put forward as the major obstacle to any Kop expansion, but its a simple solution to divert the road to through the land where the Church and Park pub are located. This diversion can be on a permanent or temporay basis while the Kop is buult over the current line of the road before reopening it. The road is definitely not too wide to build over, its a simple solution. LFC already own most of the land opposite the Kop. The staging area for such works is the area of vacant land behind the Main Stand. I would suggest a 4 tier car park be built over the Stanley Road car park also.
The Kop and the SKD were always going to be redeveloped. Its just a matter of time. Everyone said the Main Stand couldn't be done, thwn we did it. Then we were told the ARE couldn't be done, then we did that too.
Times change. Obstacles can and will be overcome. Looking at the surrounding areas, the Kop is clearly the next logical redevelopment step. It would be fantastic to make it the biggest rail-seated end in world football.
We thankfully committed to staying at our world famous home, so it deserves nothing less than continual improvement.
Great work... Agree we shouldn't pressure families to leave but we could pay significantly over the value to encourage them..... Or pay a figure and also buy them an alternative house to help move them quicker. At the end of the day a huge Kop would cover this extra outlay.
With the Kop End being preferred choice it gives LFC more time to tread carefully with the homes and streets behind SKD stand, this will be a talking point for years to come I feel
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey A club as large as LFC with global recognition should be able to build a 70-80k seat stadium. A club that large *should also be able to restructure the town around it.
Should just get rid of them
The Kop needs to be taller and steeper….it just needs to be more imposing to opposition players…..
@@trigjoshmaybe overlapping tiers then?
Like the Yellow wall at Dortmund - agree 101% with You mate
But it has to be dark and moody
The Kop needs a complete rebuild.
Great work GB lad. Makes 100% sense to upgrade both stands, but the Kop is the easiest to complete in my opinion. It might cost north of 100 mill, maybe even 200 mill. We all know the valus of the club will most likely increase by 500 mill, so makes financial sense to the money men at the club. Let the planning committee start to plan, and add another 5000 seats.
Adding 5000 seats for 100m doesn’t make any sense lol. It has to be at least 9000 seats. Kop should be the biggest single tier stand in England.
Looking at the vacant land opposite the club shop, & up to the terraced houses where home baked is. It looks like they are planning to divert Walton Breck Road. So from where the vacant land that starts at Burleigh Road South to the vacant houses at home baked, looks possible they diverting like they did with Annie Road stand. Just would need to obtain the church or move the church. Obviously once the road is moved or plans in place for that they possibly works are begin to remove & rebuild the Kop
In my opinion, to compete with Europe's elite, Anfield certainly needs extending further.
Domestically both City, Chelsea and United are looking at further expansion.
Our waiting list is already expanding.
Problems could be logistic and lets not ignore the local residents.
For me, 70k - 75k would be ideal
Newcastle are expanding St James Park to 78000
The waiting list has been closed for several years now. You can’t get anywhere near it..
But I agree we could easily fill a ground close to 100k
@@DanielCordone9they obviously are expecting to become big worldwide cause let’s be honest, they’re not that big outside of Newcastle.
@@summerpoolLiverpool are not filling a 100k stadium. 😂
The church, pubs and business could all be rebuilt in a modern fashion on the land to the left of the Kop as you look at it. Almost like an Anfield biz park.
Deffo all could be, enough land there 👍
I wasn't expecting any plans for 2-3 decades but it doesn't surprise me with how FSG operate that they're already looking at how to expand further, I have no idea how the council would agree to a Kop expansion with it being a main road behind but I guess there's always a way🤔 dalglish stand would sure make sense to be the next one
The problem is -- and always has been -- that you get one muppet who thinks they can make a fortune by refusing to sell until the very last minute (even though they don't want to live there) and will hold the club to ransom. The more fans publicise this "Isle of Man" scheme, the more zeros that are added on to the sale price of the last house.
Very good point, however you only pay what the value of the property is. After all everything will be given a value after the properties are surveyed. Once there is a value, then maybe add another 50k or buy the current owners a bigger 3 or 4 bed house, down the road and refurbish the property. Personally I think the club should double the value of the current properties and watch them fly out of the oven like hot cakes.
Maybe you should leave people alone. If they dont want to sell
It’s the “Isle of Wight” NOT the Isle of Man 🇮🇲
If someone doesn’t want to move then that’s fine. I’m a red and we can always obtain a compulsory order for the properties that are required. It’s not an issue, they’re buying the properties for redevelopment of the Kop. Skerries road will take care of itself. Kop in 2026/7 SKD 2030.
Sorry, but if you knew you were going to be haggled on the price of your house you'd do the same thing when you know the buyer has bags of dough and desperately want to buy you out. Id do the same
With the spare land available not directly within the footprint of an expanded Kop, then relocating the business, homes and church seems relatively easy. The road could be then diverted like Anfield Road and the Kop extended in one large tier backwards.
With a bit of creativity the road is an easy fix. It can be excavated and lowered then covered up with pre-fabricated panels to save downtime. That will leave so much ground level space to expand the cop. Its been done in several countries so I don't see why not
Well done GB you make a lot of opinions on your video thanks for update anfield with you and kc we are coming more pupolar and more well done keep your good work YNWA .
Thank You So Much - YnWa
Any rebuild to the Kop would need a whole new roof design and for the roof to be lifted upwards so when you are on back row, you get a brilliant view of rest of stadium. It is like a post box in sections 304 to 306 currently.
Yeah it would deffo be great to open the whole stadium up, only been in 304 a couple of times and certainly don't miss that block, 205 was my block for around 10 seasons
On the old Spion Kop it was like a post box from the back by the stairs/toilets. You couldn't see much of the rest of the ground. The important thing was seeing the pitch.
it's the same at the top of the main stand and the new ARS. Disappointing but I'm guessing the cost of increasing the height of the roof to improve the viewing experience of a few hundred supporters in what are already the cheapest seats wasn't worth it.
The only way to expand the Kop would be to bury the road behind. That's an A road and major thoroughfare. Even then the church is a major obstacle. The Kenny is the most likely but that will be a major undertaking.
Why not build new houses on that field to the left of the top,and move them families in them houses behind the KDS ,and extend that.
Offer to buy the houses off them, then move them into the new houses mentioned by Courtneywizviz.
because most people in houses don' t want to move. Especially if they own it. It could have memories that mean you have to way over pay to get them out making paying everyone infeasible. if you spent your life to buy a place and somebody just wants to come an level your memories you might not be amenable.
@@derred723
They will get new homes in the same area, they will not pay anything..
Thanks for posting this GB, just had a look at google maps @ road A5089 Oakfield Road, @ your time stamp 9.58 you have an overhead shot of A5089, my hunch on the distance the houses that are boarded up and the land available further up A5089, LFC ******* may ******* have achieved an alteration in the road, nothing major ! just ease the road over to where the houses are, then the new road would run parallel with the old one, hence allowing depth for the new Kop stand, Yep "controversial " with the church, a relocation package with enormity would be provided, just my thoughts !
I think you are right, easiest way is to just tweak the road over and rebuild the church as close as possible to the Community. what about the pub though as I thought the owners got it grade listed, maybe they can lift the build up and move it forward
@@ecohipster7724 Some listed buildings can be demolished, or heavily altered, depending on circumstances, English Heritage is the place to find out about that, how old it is, history, many things make up a grade ! Without researching I wouldn’t guess, but I think it will all go eventually, massive relocation package!!!!!!!!
@@markbusby9709 I believe they got it listed as local historical significance being in front of the kop from the early days of the stadium but im not 100% on it
You hit the nail on the head
Well Done!
@@ecohipster7724 I've been onto the historic England website and the pub is not a listed building!!! So no problems there at all!
Nice Wayne 👍👍. Like ALL Liverpool Fans of course we what the KOP & SKD Stands done now, but oversee that is not possible. But I think within the next 2 to 3 years a New build on the KOP will happen with careful planning and great design. it might be a long way off but time does flying and hopefully in the next 12 to 15 years or less the SKD Stand will be done 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🤔🤔🤔
Us Liverpool 🔴Fans have to BELIEVE 👍👍
YNWA Sparky 🍻🍻
Thank you so much mate, hopefully we see something happen not to long in the future, so many road blocks that I hope will be over come, YnWa mate 👍
Kope can be raised in height while keeping the same footprint in depth. No need to close the road or re route it long term. Will be short term disruption when works are being done.
SKD stand is the most problematic, it will go the way of the main stand, awaiting house purchases etc.
If the Kop becomes a matter of when than if, do we adjoin it with the main stand or do we leave it as free standing?
In the meantime we should do what United did and also connect the main stand and anfield road together. 5k, maybe even 10k people could slot in
Thanks for that. We do need that Kop to be bigger...
Great vid la Exited for what’s to come YNWA. ❤
Thank You - YnWa
Whatever design they finally go with for the Kop, they should make it all standing
Top man good topic to speak about.
Thank you so much 👍
I still remember those two old Dears in the street from the old
Kemlyn Road who refused to move. I think we waited until one passed away.
If they can re-route the traffic, they could do ‘something’ I’ve just watched The Overlap, with Rafa on and he makes that problem LFC have had for 35 years…Man Utd get 75,000 per home game…we are catching up, but from 89 we were 44,000…add that fan money up from then to now, we could have built a new Stadium…
I was always up for that idea of Both LFC/EFC building a San Siro with 100k attendance. The thousands of fans who used to wake up on a Saturday and decide to go the match!
The clubs were up for it, but fanbase’s rubbished it!
One thing I would say, it would have to be like the Main Stand, it wouldn’t be right if they two tiered it…
I’ve been saying it for years…the money we’ve lost must be Billions next to Man U…
I think the intention had always been to upgrade all 4 stands.
Now, with 2 of the 4 stands having had their upgrade completed its really just a question of do they do stages 3 & 4 together in order to get it all done or do they simply continue to do a stand at a time.
And, there's something saying to me at the back of my mind that especially given the fact that while redeveloping each of the two stands already done both construction companies Carillion and The Buckingham Group went into administration.
So, I think it's better to just err on the side of caution given the current financial climate.
It would be a mammoth undertaking, because they have to re-do the road as well
Do we think it’s likely that skd stand will be reduced by 2-3k seats to accommodate leg room, therefore allowing a bigger Kop expansion before the 65k+ seats rule?
The MCG in Melbourne is a great example of a stadium above a road
That’s where 100,000 people once sung “walk on”.
Biggest crowd ever to sing it
it's amazing to think that a building that will house 60-70 thousand people in and around it on matchdays is allowed amongst the houses.. we're lucky the fans nowadays aren't like those in the 80s but who knows what will happen in the future.. it is a big risk to try to contain that many fans if things break out..
Could imagine something like a indoor ski center jutting out over the road possibly but would need some engineering
They need to turn Walton Breck Rd into a tunnel going past Anfield, & that solves a lot of issues. Said tunnel could also house a train station. *Big engineering projects like that happen all the time.
Sounds good to me, if the road has to remain then sounds like the only ways but is possible, like you say we have seen mega projects like this over roads all the time but maybe not as much with football stands in the plans, I would of thought the train station or at least a platform would of been suited just behind Annie road at edge of Stanley park 🤔
I would love to see the KOP rebuilt in exact the same way and size as the Annie Road end, would create more spaces and also symmetry and general lift to the hotch-potch of lopsided stands. BUT as stated before somethin needs to be done about the traffic situation in L4 on match days. There needs to be a train/underground station or two nearby, also rerouting the Walton Breck Road behind the Kop End - can it be done, would be a great and needed lift for the entire L4-area.
Nah needs to be single tier.
Isnt another obstacle that a further increase in capacity would require better routes to and from the stadium like a train platform or tram service etc? Its difficult match days to get away or even back into the city.
Yeah this is a must for certain and has to happen if stadium gets much bigger in capacity
Could use the villa stand which is built over the road as like a blue print
Hi GB,great vid as usual,nice to see at least one of you sticking around till the end,when ever that may be.If they do decide to go ahead with the kop/Sir Kenny stand I think they'd have to redirect the rd first otherwise it would cause havoc around Anfield,so I think it will be a few years down the line and a lot of planning to do it right.YNWA
Thank you so much, I'm certainly in it till the end and I'm doing a follow on vid about this expansion soon focusing on the transport network as this will have to be priority before any big expansion, YnWa mate 👍
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey look forward to watching that one,cheers Wayne.YNWA
They couldn't even be arsed filling the corners in in ARE. As the support structures and stansions for the MS and SKD would need demolishing, theyve only just installed the MS. Likewise with the Kop. Its a great stadium but in a twat of a pickle constructively.
we have times that almost everythink is possible its not 1960 anymore the money and determination gonna make further expansion happen but the real deal is it all needs TIME... and GOD knows how much time it needs.... i hope its not gonna be like 8 years... maybe like 3/4 years we gonna see some designs etc and in like maybe 5 years the expansion can start.... lets wait and see..
The bottom half can be built be built higher and then can be built outwards were it jettisons, could over hang the road possibly not a structural engineer but just a thought?
Look at the stand behind the goal at Villa Park.
Apply to the Kop.
Sorted.
Liverpool must win PL 5 years in a row in order for the city to approve transportation to Anfield.
If that happen, expansion on King Kenny stand would not so difficult.
Can't go beyond 60,000 without better transport infrastructure, there has to be rail or tram links near the ground
Just like i said we could have new expansion stand in 2-3 years later.
And in 2030 we already have a new kop stand.
Imagine that make me scary,
How we beat Barcelona last time.
With only 54k capacity Anfield.
That's really loud match i ever see in Anfield.
And with the New kop with big stand all liverpool rival would be Scared come to Anfield.
Yeah for sure.
The legendary Anfield will be remember forever.
The louder stadium in the world
Gosh!
New kop in 2030 and New Kenny Dalglish stand in 2035 maybe.
I hope it.
You Liverpool lads need 80:000 to 100:000 all seated stadium for going into the future hopefully us Celtic we get ours shortly think the are looking into it two big matches that hopefully it works out 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬✊✊
What about building the corners, higher, which means remove the bar and have other way of supporting the roofs.
And Kop can be built, by having it higher where Albert Pub is, going down towards Sir Kenny Dalglish Stand/SkerriesRoad.
I would like to get the corner built, that would give us another at least 5000 and a higher Kop end, near Main stand, would give another thousand, maybe 2-3000. Then we would have almost 70 000.
YNWA
Another thing the can do is building KDS, more to Skerries Rd, on pillars, increasing the upper tier, with about 2-3000, as high as Main stand or ARE. That means Anfield would take more than 70 000, which means we can hold UCL finals etc there.
The can still park cars there, like today, but underneath. As far as I know, Sun comes from the south, and KDS is northwest of the houses. Won't shade their gardens.
If one goes northeast from Anfield, along Utting Ave, to the railway, to Ayrshire rd/Hildebrand Rd - Cherry Lane, they can build a train station there, open during matches, which is close enough, allowing us to expand Anfield.
YNWA
Thank you mate . Great update . Stay safe 🙏 YNWA
Thank You So Much -YnWa
Build the Kopp over the road. Same as Aston villa have done
I see the main issue being you cant see much close play action beyond the halfway line at the rear of the kop lvl 300. you'd have to make it much much steeper and a total and radical entire rebuild would be needed for that. I don't think its ever going to happen. revenue wise the increase would also be low as beyond level 300 would be a seriously restricted view.
For me the key thing is there needs parking! With the extended capacity it’s already a night mare
Wish it was how it was in the 70s. Nothing wrong with how it was
Yeah 26,000 on the Kop, all standing Annie Rd and standing on the Main Stand paddock.
Good old days.
If any expansion involves a regeneration of the area in conjuction with LCC , then any refusal to sell will result in a 'compulsory purchase order' , they did that to one of my families houses years ago, paid them peanuts !
I really hope they consider how to tackle the extra fans at the end of matches. I'm still able to whiz back to a car park space about a mile and a half away from the ground but there are thousands extra fans streaming into the nearby streets. I'm not saying build a tram because that infrastructure is crazy but what would be really easy to achieve is a multi layer electric bus/tram route that underneath the expanded Kop area would give people an initial getaway straight down Walton Breck the way people walk and then at least there is order for fans queuing other than the buses.
You can't expect LCC to allow expanding any further until the club has a solution for improving the infrastructure.
It's not just transport, it's water. Anyone my age will well remember the Kop Sewer collapse. They have to ensure they consider infrastructure and I'm pretty sure the council will be working with them on that. If it's to get a further 1-2k fans in the Kop end they wouldn't do it. If it's to create another area for fans to arrive and maximise the tourism with cafes and bars underneath the expanded stand - then they know they'll get a return. I just hope they provide community rooms and give first choice for local businesses so they benefit from the increase footfall. Unfortunately, for me selfishly, it slowly removes the pint and into the Kop routine I've always had. But I'm a minority in their fan profile now as they want people to spend money in the ground.
Great topic and it's all in the distance as you quite rightly mention.
Transport would have to be included with any future large expansions as it would take us over that certain capacity which then would have to have a train link. Will be very costly for sure
Rebuilding the Kop is not feasible unless you want to put corporate seating in there… which is obviously not going to happen.
The only other stand that can be expanded is the Kenny.
It will happen but not sure when. The club can't have a situation were The Kop is the smallest structure, in terms of height. It might have to be double decker or split level.
I'm wondering if they could build a tunnel where the main road currently is. Realistically it could be 5 years or more before the kop is expanded. It's nice to see things slowly happening though
I just wonder how many of the houses behind SKD LFC already own? There looks to be about 70 houses in the 3 rows behind SKD and i know it's families homes with memories etc but everyone has their price and if i was offered a million pound i would take it. £70-100m acquiring them isn't that much and the redeveloped stand would add that value to the club.
The road is the inner city ring rd
Maybe an underpass will take lot of Monet though
great video - cheers mate
Your welcome mate 👍
the trick was missed when building the main stand, it should have been built 20 yards further back from the pitch, then the Kop could have been extended by moving 20 yards across the pitch towards the new main stand since the road isn't a problem at that side of the Kop (knocked down the super store incorporate the pub under the stand). The Annie road stand was being rebuilt so likewise. An additional 20 yards means that the SKD could be moved forwards 20 yards and effectively "back" 20 yards and not encroach on the Skerries Road houses by retaining its present boundary. By doing this the corners could have been filled in to look great and not such random clusterf*** like today. The result would be a 75,000 seater Anfield - yes one stand at a time out of action per season, but after 3 seasons, job done and 75,000 super Anfield.
I'm not sure the planners would have allowed such a big stand to be closer to the houses on Alroy Road. The main stand is much bigger than the KDS and so needs to be set further back from the houses on Alroy Road to avoid it having an overbearing impact on the outlook of those dwellings. Likewise, any increase in height to the KDS would have an overbearing impact on the rear outlook and amenity space of the houses on Skerries Road. They also suffer from overshadowing as they are sited directly to the east of the KDS and so have lost all the sun in the afternoon.
Church is not a historical building and can be easily moved and they have indicated they would do so I believe.
Where can they expand ?
Council parkland on one side..
Streets of terraced houses..privately owned on the other...the economic logistics would be a nightmare...should have relocated like Everton and built from scratch...as Man Utd are going to do...albeit alongside their current stadium...
Hasn’t there been talk previously of a train station/ tram stop as part of future expansion and wider area regeneration along with a hotel?
Has been talk but it would have to happen if any other large expansion happens, probably would need planning first before the expansion if ever happens
With today engineering I think that the road behind the Kop Can Be move. The only business are the Pie shop and the Church So the only problem there would be the church. Also i think that if they can sorted the problem of the road behind the kop and come to a agreement with the residence Parking
I Believe that it be two years when they start on the new Spion kop
Are they still planning to build a hotel on the land adjacent to the main stand further down Walton Breck Road?
Not sure what happened with that as was meant to be a hotel built
The only way that they can extend it kops capacity is to to upwards all way around it if that's possible
I guess a Kop expansion will not possibly happen until the 2030's and the Sir Kenny Stand pribably by the 2040's.Either way plans and current thinking will probably alter several times over the next few years.id love the Kop to gow in size so it holds and replicates the yellow wall in Dortmund.i gess that would have to see it become steeper, taller and deeper in its depthThe new Kop needs to be capable of holding at least 20,000 seats so we need to add a further 8 000 to its current capacity.i guessxthis woukd need the shops, church,pubs and even the store shop needing to be demolished , which is the easy part to a Kop expansion, more difficult is the Walton Breck Road , can it be rerouted, woukd LCC allow this peesonally i dont think this should be a issue or problem and woukd be cheaper than tunnelling the road.If the reduction of the capaciry of the Sir Lenny is reduced over the next couple of years to facilitate extra leg room in the lower sir kenny and more modinised larger concurse favilities then this probably woukd reduce the cspscity of that stand by a couple of thousand seats and Anfield current capacity woukd drop to about 59,000 in that case the Kop simply has to be extended by 7,000 to 8,000 extra seats ad Anfield and LFC need a ground that can hold at least 66,000 as a bare minimum and i think the club can have a ground of that capacityvsize and fall within the current LCC guidlines re planning permission without having to upgrade the road network, transportation needsv( rail or trams) and increased and improved car parking facilities.If this can be acheived in the next 7 to 8 years then the club can finally look at the expansion of the Sir Kenny Stand so it replicates the size and capacity of the Main Stand as a mirror image and in turn add a further 9,000 seats to the ground capacity taking it to 75,000 which is the uze of a ground Liverpool should be operating with and could easily sell out with still a long and sizable season ticket wauting list.If this is to happen and be a project for the late 2030's or 2040's then hopefully by that time Anfield will have seen th neccessary redevelopment of the srea with better road and rail links etc and the houses in Skerries Road will all be under the ownership of Liverpool FC who could then generously move residents into other properties in the local area and demolish the houses in Skerries Road so allowing for the expansion of the Sir Kenny stand so it does hold and mirror the Main Stand andthe ground csn be symetrically a lot more pleasing on the eye with all 4 stands bevof a similar size. Lots to do and plan and we may have new owners and this take a further 25 to 20 years to do and complete but these plans should be part of the clubs log term ambitions and sitting with LCC so that it can form part of the council long term regeneration plan for the Anfield residential and commercial district
Kop needs to Mirror Anfield road and SKD stand mirror the main stand so it has some kind of modern symmetry and not look like Frankenstein’s laboratory with 4 mismatched stands.
Kop needs to be one tier stand or it's not a kop so can't mirror anfield road. Just needs to be built steaper if possible or extended further back if possible when time is right which could be years
As a mate pointed out to me the other day, isn't the thing stopping any further expansion the transport links and not buying up the houses? Don't they need to have trams or rail links in place to get any further planning permission for expansion?
They will have to be a rail link for certain if any big expansion takes place, over 65 thousand I think is the number but if LFC are quietly buying houses I'm guessing they would of asked questions about the rail link also, either ways it going to be costly, be a lot of talking with LCC and the Anfield community if and when time is right, probably be a lot of terms and conditions in place but it's going to be years down the line I feel even if houses are getting brought when vacated
Hi wayne tried sending you an e-mail but it came back as could not be delivered is the e-mail in your bio still being used, it was a very rough photoshop of how the area would look without the buildings and how a reroute of the road is possible.
I take a look at that email as yeah had a few issues with this so will check why emails aren't coming through
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey thanks, once you sort it i will it again.
Common sense dictates that further expansion of the stadium will eventually be necessary, if it is not possible then remaining at Anfield was a huge mistake, one which no owners would contemplate.
The Kop should be next for redevelopment whilst the club continues to purchase the properties required to allow for the SKD demolition and rebuild.
Just a thought how about building nice houses on that waste land and transfer the people over to there if the people would agree to that
The Kop looks too small in comparison to the Main stand and Anfield road, it is essential/salient to the club to expand. Season ticket yes PLEASE😂😂😂
@@keybenson wait they're that road is a main road for buses schools business's and general traffic between the north and south end if the city . Which is more important than Liverpool football club.
Three thoughts:
One: what's possible in terms of pure engineering when it comes to just building the Kop seating and roof back from its current footprint? To what extent can such a structure be supported by things like strong foundations and struts etc? ie, does any building even NEED to be done in terms of extending the footprint?
Two: The present stand isn't adjacent to the road. Why not build back so that the entire stand is adjacent, and therefore no longer symmetrical? You could raise the roof and put additional rows where possible (ie more and more as you go towards the Main Stand). That's actually quite a big area. Probably enough for 4-5k more seats (a total rebuild would probably only yield about 8k anyway - much more isn't really feasible for an end stand. For those worried about aesthetics: the roof can be made low enough (as it is right now) that the asymmetry is never actually seen from inside the ground.
Three: what's the deal with planning? The issue with going above ~60k was always traffic/transport - is there any fundamental change in that area? Or is this all just wishful thinking?
Don't Liverpool still own the land where the hotel was going to be built? Liverpool could easily build new premises for those businesses over there. Maybe the road could go down, ie motorway underpass sections joined together.
I believe that is owned by Liverpool City Council
will the European Championship matches be played at the stadium? at Anfield in 2028
No they won't but they will at Bramley Moore 😔
It will be very hard for the kop to be expanded with the road church and shops
billy hogan was interviewed recently and stated there are absolutely no plans to re develop anfield further
Yeah I saw that yet there still waiting to buy out homes that become empty so no harm in planning ahead but could be years upon years to wait
The perfect way they should of done it instead of buying out all the houses and streets. Played at Anfield and built the new stadium on Stanley park the Kop directly behind Anfield Road Stadium and the main stadium on Arkles Road. Then knock down the old stadium keeping some of the stadium standing like the coaches boxes and goals and kop for heritage purposes, food stalls and LFC shop and turned it into a gathering area for supporters before kickoff.
You got to buy out 3 rows of houses to expand SKD stand and buy off the road behind the kop and church to expand that also, waste of money and we still don’t have a stadium as big as MU or Arsenal.
good points but our capacity already exceeds Arsenals.
@ Arenal already looking into expanding to 75,000 Spurs is 63,000 now MU are looking into 100,000 Man City are expanding to 62,000.
The main stand they bought those houses in 1990s the stand wasn’t completed in 2016.
Even Klopp said the stadium is small and so do we all.
Once the new Utd stadium is built
Utd will come back and rule the league for the next 1/4 century like they did before. Spectators ring money, money brings players and coaches and that brings trophies
I thought if the capacity were to increase, then the travel, rail, road infrastructure will have to be improved.
It will have to be
Definitely the only real option is to realign the road.
The road is the problem. Double tier, but then it is not a kop.
How about a third tier on the K D stand ?
The church will move to where the houses are, the road can be tunneled it's a straight road.
Why would they need those houses to make the Kopp bigger they have all ready said if they did the Kopp it would just be a second tear above the old one just like the Anfeild road
Because them houses are behind SKD stand which needs expanding aswell 👍it's going to be a long process so good to see the club actually planning ahead even if nothing is done anytime soon
I thought there could be no further expansions until communications to and from Anfield were improved???
Maybe but I still think it's good that they are still preparing just in case and still a lot can happen over the next few years
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey really hope You are right, we need to get closer to 70k if we are to compete with the other bigger clubs in the UK and in Europe!
There is no dentist behind the bakery, it was in Donaldson street and this was knocked down at least 10 years ago
Was today when I was there walking past 👍
Same building as the bakery, sign up so looked like a dentist to me. If you like an up to date pick just ask
I only pointed this out in case people go there looking for a dentist.
No rail network no more capacity i heard from council before? Is that right
It's not stopping Liverpool FC planning ahead though but yeah a rail link would be needed for any other big expansions
It would be fantastic if they did but the amount of money it would cost I think it would be about 300 million or around there, could you see fsg spending that amount of money and it could be a lot more then that.
I can't see them spending that and also having to spend on train link and platform also
I don't know if it is true or not but if you get above a certain capacity you have to have better transport links.
they dont spend there own money anyway they take out loans
Could Liverpool FC give the pitch a tiny bit more football grass ? Liverpool needs a champions league final.
Can't see that happening unfortunately 😔
I think they'll re route that road
Don't be ridiculous that's a main road for buses and business and general traffic. And by the way who is they.
The KOP need to be like the yellow wall capacity in Dortmund
Red Wall - one massive tier. It’s intimidating to the opposing teams
It's actually not much smaller seated.
The Yellow Wall is circa 14,500 seated. Kop is only around 2,000 less.
But why would the club be buying houses on Skerries for any Kop expansion? They won't come into play for that. Also. Homebaked own those tinned up houses at the junction of Walton Breck Road/Oakfield Road featured in your video! And they have serious plans to redevelop them themselves as family homes. These are the houses that need to be purchased (and knocked down) for the road (WBR) behind the Kop to be totally moved back for any Kop expansion. 🤔🧐
Buying houses on skerries road would be for skd expansion when ever that would be. Just a long process but club prefer the kop to be expanded first. Buying out house on skerries road and neighbouring streets at this rate will take years, decades like I said so why not start now at the same time preparing for a possible Kop Expansion
@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey yeah I see what you mean now. Hopefully the owners are future proofing the immediate areas for both stands to be eventually done. 👍
You mentioned your difficulty in obtaining tickets for games. I haven't been to a game since Roger's was manager. Can't get a ticket. I was born in Anfield and have lived in Liverpool all my life. My grandparents used to lodge players in their house in Harrow Rd back in the 60s. Unfortunately the club has been taken away from us as local people. We don't spend hundreds of pounds in the club shop before games and refuse to pay inflated prices for tickets. The fact is we're not wanted, as the club can bring in more revenue with the foreign fans. The game is all about money now. Sad but true.
Liverpool arena definitely need and upgrade. It looks like a dump yard. Soon Everton will have an arena that will shine over the dump yard that Liverpool has. You will look like a second hand club.
Everton will be a second division club
The families will be forced out by the council , because it is the whole area that is being regenerated not just the stadium.
The infrastructure around anfield is terrible. The transport links to and from the ground from the city on match days is awful. You wait ages for a bus and hope you get on or you spend an hour walking to town. Needs an anfield train/tram line and a more direct route to town. I believe this is a bit part of what is stopping further expansion of the kop.
The transport link will certainly have to be priority if any further expansion happen even though none are planned but still houses are getting brought out so I'm guessing it will be years maybe decades if kop is done next
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don't extend - don't change the shape of the Kop, just renovate the Kop inside. Extend the Daglish Stand [ add 9k as we did with the main stand ] after we buy the three rows of the houses behind the Daglish stand, and then fill the two corners at Anfield stand [ left- right, 2k each ], so we can have 74k., plus a bit from the Kop renovation [ standing ]. A bit more than 74k people are enough, we don't need bigger crowd..
The road can easily be moved if Liverpool own the land they can move it too
Good Vid GB, whatever happens with The Kop Redevelopment we must insure Rayner Rowen are no where near the project!
They are just as bad as Buckingham.
Id actually give Lang O Rourke a call but think we will be waiting a few years yet unfortunately
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey Who's doing The Etihad contract?
@@mickeyrotlep6807 I'm not sure