I REALLY Tried to HATE This Disc... [Kastaplast Berg Review]
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The thing I noticed a lot at the end is that you always try and run it on hyzer or flat. My best chances with the Berg are always on a slightly anhyzer forehand to just float it in.
I agree to this.
Same. That's the real strength of the berg, imo, is that when you give it a little anhyzer it will fight back to flat and fly straight.
I think it depends on how u naturally want to throw forehand. I just started learning simple forehand upshot’s recently and idk why but I have to force myself to throw hyzer. My first 20 shots all came out ani and it still feels natural to do it that way
Disagree. The berg caters to whatever you like to do. Almost all of my huge throw ins were actually backhand hyzers and spike hyzers, or straight to hyzer forehands.
Something a lot of people haven't quite figured out about the Berg: it has more glide when thrown on a hyzer. The most accurate ways to throw it are on an anhyzer with a slight parabola or straight but slightly nose up the whole way. On these paths, just give it exactly enough spins to go to the basket. The moment it stops spinning it sits.
Have you worked on utility shots at all? Obviously backhand/forehand/putting should all be prioritized, but I think a video learning different utility shots would be cool! Grenades, rollers, tomahawks, etc. can be like cheat codes in the right places
definitely want to make that happen!!!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf My K3 Berg has got me out of trouble so often with dinky fh circular rollers when I'm badly cut off from baskets set just into the treeline etc.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf forehand rollers + wooded courses = get out of jail free cards
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Roller first may be another option, just tacking on. Most over hand shots are going to be highly specific based on the reason you are forced to throw overhand shots. I personally am aware of a few players who throw incredible overhand shots, however that is generally as a teeshot and not scramble shot which I don't think is your aim. Roller can be a better and more applicable shot that is easier to learn as someone who is also trying to enhance my game and maybe add on some extra distance in the process.
I bag 2 bergs, 1 regular k1 and 1 k1 soft. The k1 soft flies like your k3 hard but is super soft and will not skip both for the reason that its soft and that it lands flat most of the time. Regular k1 mostly for forehands and when I want to power up, but in most cases I just tend to disc up if I want to throw with full power.
The berg and zone/slammer type disc are one dimensional but needed in most bags.
I disagree with one dimensional but they certainly are needed :P
Berg utility rollers to get out of jail is very common for me.
The Berg K1 Soft is money for approach forehand shot with a little anny. I sometimes putt with a K3 outside the circle if it's windy or deathputts.
Not only is it great on forehands as you have found, but I use it for super touchy little rollers out of thick brush. It's nice because it's so blunt it just rolls straight. K3 is the way to go, IMO.
Liked for the roller tip since I do this a lot. I like the k1 soft personally, right in between the k3 and k1 in stabili(haven’t thrown a k3 hard)
Underrated roller disc
I would try the K1 soft for that perfect stability. Mine has been my most used disc for a year now and still just goes perfectly straight. Doesn’t really beat in because the plastic is so soft, and has tons of grip for people with sweaty or dry hands or cold weather. 10/10 would recommend!
I might, I just don't like discs that aren't stiff!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Ah fair enough, I love gummy discs but I can see why people don’t. Great vid as always!
@Bodanza Disc Golf For me the K1 soft Berg doesn't feel floppy, I really like it. FYI the translucent is less soft than the solid colors.
@@BodanzaDiscGolf It's not hugely floppy compared to a lot of softs from other manufacterers. My go to approach disc, sits perfectly and holds whatever line I give it.
I usually bring a k1 soft and a k3. The k1 soft is great when you need a more stable or swooping forehand.
My first Kastaplast disc ever was a K1 Soft Berg. I really do enjoy the way it drops under the basket!
Yea the K1 soft is so good!
I came for the Berg and stayed for the plastic!
I had a k1 soft and the corner of the rim and flight plate was less than 90 degrees leading to a weird pinching or catching of the tip of my index finger on sidearms. Had to stop throwing it. Wondering about getting a k3 model
I picked one up,finally. I decided to bag it. It’s def. A utility disc for me but where I would use a zone or putter I can use the berg instead of cranking on those other discs and I know where the berg is going. It’s super predictable once you learn how yours flies. Flies seems like that is spelled wrong. Anyhow I’m really liking the berg as I’m learning how to throw it. No big skips. It just sits down.
I love throwing the Berg on Annie almost exclusively. It seems to need it to work properly. And I bag three K1s - soft, regular and glow for night rounds. BTW I see you’re using the OG bag… i have a V1 and love it.
The k1 soft is even more forgiving with forehand and backhand. The one I have is almost hard to not throw exactly straight.
The Berg is great, I have been throwing a K3 for five plus years. It is a forehand approach disc. It will hold so many lines however you throw it. PLUS it is underrated the best forehand roller disc for getting out of trouble.
Definitely do a comparison between the armadillo and BERG. I love the berg and would definitely like to see how it's competitors compair.
I just want to shoutout that I love the way you edit your videos - very smooth and creates a great flow to the video. I also love all the commentary
This is so funny. Randomly looking for Berg reviews only to find you, whom I just subscribed to yesterday, playing with it at my local course 😅
The good thing about the Berg is your body has a natural Berg pocket so you aren't giving up space in your bag to carry it on your round
I got a berg on Christmas because I saw you using it. It already helped me take a few strokes off of my home course (and shoot my lowest score ever). Now my dad and brother are sold on it after trying it lol.
I have four bergs. 2 k1 soft, 1 k1 and 1 Glow k1. Deadly accurate under 200 ft both fore- and backhand. Absolutely most used disc. My son also loves berg. At first he didn't like berg (becouse throws discmania), but after throwing berg each other in our backyard he wanted one of my bergs in his bag😁 One of the nicest thing about throwing berg is, that it magically seems to stuck very close to pin. Rolling isn't a issue with berg, becouse it fells out of sky.
Scott Stokely used to putt with the Burg on Tour, he has since stopped doing so and uses the mold for approach and need to sit shots.
I would definitely second getting the K1 soft Berg.
As an amateur disc golfer the Berg is my go to approach disc for distances up to 60 meters. I can throw the berg pretty hard and know that even if it’s a bad throw it won’t be so far away that I don’t have a putting chance. If you nail the shot the berg can fly pretty laser and I have even nailed a couple of 30m throwins that landed in the basket with it.
I also sometimes use the berg for putting if the basket is on a hill or other place where if I miss the putt it can roll or put me in a difficult spot. The berg just doesn’t move a lot on the ground which is really nice.
I think a lot of people misunderstand the Berg. It doesn’t fly very far but it’s not meant for long distance. It’s meant for short approaches and will give you minimal ground play.
I love my k1 for forehand approach and I use the soft as my putting putter. I like being able to run it and know the disc will fall just behind the basket if I miss.
Only been playing for like 4 months. Keeping that hip up was a huge help today. Thanks!
My son bought one because he loves the KaxeZ K1 soft he got for Christmas. It is coming in Saturday and we cant wait to try it. It is a K1
Big fan of the Berg! Been bashing trees with my K1 glow for almost a year and it still flies like new. Thanks for the vid!
Your comments about the people in the park were hilarious. This park has a problem with men going into the other parts of the park to play Pokémon or something! You were not at risk of losing your camera or black cherry.
If you are going to compare 1 speed disc in a future video, please include the Innova Birdie. It is an underrated disc I feel.
I love the pace of play. Your flowing stream of thought/super fast speech is a refreshing change of pace to our slow southern drawl. Thanks dude
Kimber 45' for those sketchy woodlands.
(IWB) holster with extra mag pouch
Your basket camera zooms are great!
I've bagged a k1 soft and a k3 hard berg for about a year now. I recently pulled the k1 soft because I prefer the feel of the k3 hard better and their flights are so similar. Badass discs for sure, the glitch is also one of my favorite 1 speeds. I bag a few of those for warm up catch rounds before playing and I'll throw them at anything straight and 250' and in with a good high ceiling. They are MONEY if you used to throw any ultimate.
Currently bagging the K1, K1 Soft and K3 Hard. Got the K3 Hard a few month ago and absolutely love it for approach shots and throw ins. It just flies straight for me. The K1 Soft I have has slightly more stability so I like that one for certain situations and I love the way the plastic feels. I'm probably going to take the K1 out though because I haven't found a use for it yet that isn't covered by the other two. Thanks for the video!
If you can find a z flx ringer gt, that is by far my favorite disc for throw ins! It has taught me forehand touch from like 150' and in.
If you're using Premiere Pro for editing I feel like your zooms and move arounds could benefit from right clicking the keyframes and using fade in and fade out to make it smoother :P
I absolutely love this course, it's simple yet effective. Beautiful little course in Orlando :D I think my favorite hole was the tee right behind a literal 3ft gap
what course is it?
There's a berg challenge in Bloomington Indiana next month, you should go!!
With how clear that K1 Glow is, I'm guessing you got a 'low glow' variant. I'm a huge fan of the K3 for tackiness and stability.
Similar disc that was made at one point, the Aerobe Arrow was a similar disc, a Cousin he substituted the hard and soft Berg putters for a The Arrow due to the fact that he can't find more of them and needs it, the one Arrow is getting waxy, the odd plastic got waxy over time.
Loved your vid the berg grows on you fast I dont use it often but really fun to toss off the tee on short holes and great for upshots and if your someone that loves to forehand its like it just drops out of the air vs fading
You mentioned in a ideo thay you like the Buzzz les than hex and other midranges. I really love my Buzzz because it is not glidy. I have a Core that glides oand flies looong. But I can hit my buzzz HARD and trust i to just fly well. And it took me a long time to appreciate it, but it's like. Half flidy, half stable, halv affected by the wind, halv understable.. It really sits well in the middle.
Have you thrown the Armadillo from Lone Star? I liked the flight of my berg but the feel was a bit off in my hand. The armadillo has been a total workhorse for me with a flight similar to my berg and with more confidence in my hand.
Man I was given a Berg like two weeks ago. I've had one round to use it, and really liked it. It still made me laugh every time I threw it, it's just so odd the way it just drops out of the air.
use it to your advantage. The berg doesn't care about wind, grass, roots, nose angle. It just goes wherever you throw it. The only enemy of the berg is twigs and branches. Hitting any foliage with it in flight shuts it down immediately.
Try a glitch. They're so glidey it's shocking. Someone that putts so well from distance you probably don't need it, but for me it helps me run stand still putts from farther out. Great video!
I noticed that your throw in attempts were all on hyzer release. Try the baby anhyzer forehand. It increased my throw ins immediately. It’s almost like a staggered straddle stance, flick your wrist and the berg holds the line like no other.
I feel the same as you.. I have a berg I dont like using it, but its a good forehand approach.. I keep hitting metal with it, and cant explain why. lol
I tried to bag the berg but I didn’t like how deep it feels. My friend gave me a glitch today and we played a couple new courses. Super straight and lands by the basket like a drone. It will probably stay in my bag.
I'd love to see a comparison video of the berg and the lonestar armadillo!! that'd be a great video
Paul Ulibarri has a forehand tutorial old video where he basically does a helicopter hover forehand approach it’s not for max distance it’s a control approach thing, but if you do that forehand that way with the berg it’s insanely deadly
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Glad you did this! I throw it both bh and fh when a Zone is too fast or I just can’t go long. It’s phkn awesome!
I confess. I also bag a Berg. It's a K1 Soft Berg. But the Armadillo is also pretty awesome. I bag both.
I tried to hate the Berg too, but it does what its intended to do, and it does it pretty well. The only competitor is the Lonestar Armadillo. Yes, I know you've already reviewed it, but you only threw the Victor 1 Armadillo, which is not too stable. You should try out the Bravo plastic Armadillo. This Armadillo is a lot more stable and feels a lot better than the Berg on backhand and forehand because the plastic feels similar to K1 plastic. You should definitely give it another shot because you might like the Armadillo so much it will kick the Berg out! Thanks for making great content.
wanting to try the alpha dillo or bravo dillo for sure!
@@BodanzaDiscGolf Yes! definitely try it out and see which one you like better, because both armadillos in those plastics are much more overstable than the Victor 1 plastic you reviewed (and I bet you'll like the feel of the armadillo better for a backhand than the stinky berg lol).
I love the berg, but I do use it specifically for short approaches. I really want to try a k1 or k1g to have one more overstable than my k3 hard.
Have you tried the latitude trust? Latitude has a factory second three pack with a faith, a Grand trust and a Grand grace for like 30$ with their discount code. That’s crazy value and I know you love the grace!
I like the berg but found their flight changes rapidly overtime as they beat. (haven't tried the glo though). Have you thought of or tried a neutron soft proxy in that slot? Game changer for me
I chose to putt with the berg for 2 months. 100% made me a better putter. Once the two months were over and I had a disc with a little bit of glide I was sinking puts outside the circle left and right with no issue. I think it’s one of the best training discs ever if you want to improve a spin putt.
I traded a few discs for a few discs a while back and it came with a berg I went out and threw with it because I heard about it and fell in love check out the k1 soft I have a couple other ones now and I just love the way the k1 soft feels and flies
I love my k3 hard! Little glide, little fade, and little chance of being outside of 15 feet from inside 125ft.
Love the berg, but berg only rounds are frustrating unless the holes are all 150 and under. You can throw it farther, but the autopilot of the bergs no glide stops shining when youre throwing it hard to get it there.
I haven't played Airport Lakes yet, looks fun, gonna try to get there soon.
Hahaha. You got Aiport Laked.
Great park for working on things. The people walking the park are odd for sure. But they are harmless. They are looking for a mate, if you get my drift.
Hope you get to Palmetto Point Park (Green Gauntlet) and Lake Hiawatha Park (Champions Pointe)
1 3 0 0.5 Yikun Claws is a straight disc with a tough of finish fade with a back hand and if not overpowered. Use it when you want to throw smooth as easy without requiring you to baby it. Requires less touch than MVP Glitch (1700 ) when you want to throw straight.
I throw Ringers. I putt Ringers. I carry 3 plastics rn. Esp, d, xsoft, and I've got a light xsoft I've been playing with a little. I dont feel like im missong anything, maybe a blowfly? It's pretty much an anti-berg in terms of depth and speed.
The over/understability of the Berg during this video looked mostly because of how nose up your throws were coming out. Still a great video!
What discology bag do you have and what do you think about it? I can't find much info about it online and thinking about upgrading from my trooper.
I have both, use izzo mostly but v2 is awesome for fewer discs. Going to be posting review within the next few days actually! I have links with them i the description as well if you do decide to buy it would support me and get you a discount!
You look like you’re having the same problem with the Berg that I had. Inconsistent release point. It was about 1/3 early, 1/3 perfect and I love it, and 1/3 late. I actually enjoy the Glitch far more now that I’m getting used to it.
You should do a bag or bin it with the Streamline Pilot. My favorite putter of all time
I have the K1 glow as well and I love it for shots just outside of putt range.
Love how people thats not from Sweden/Norway pronounce Berg like the ”earn” part. You should pronounce it more like the begining in aero and end with an soft J, not the hole jay, just the ”j”. So it kinda sound like Baerj. If swedish would spell your pronounce it would be spelled Börg. Outerwise love your content. Keep it up.
Bee Tribs with Par plastics is the guy for Kasta. Or Charlie Goodpasture Purelinedg (he is a Kasta sponsored pro). My experience is Kasta glow throws more under stable. Opposite of most glow which seems to be more stable? (Limited experience on other glows). The Falk is also odd in that it beats in more stable. Keep the content coming!
Glow polymers generally are less stable, true across all brands
My experience has been kind of the opposite. I started with K3 but really didn't like how beat up it got and how dust stuck to it.
I got a K1 next and it's stayed in the bag. I don't think the stability is any different, but I do think it glides more. That was also true when I was putting with both.
Team glitch. Glitch changed my upshot game. It's surprisingly torque resistant, and it goes where you throw it (for better or worse) I mostly play in the woods, with dangerous greens. I can always count on the Glitch to match the slope of the green and sit flat. I even use it for short tee shots. If you give it some good spin and height, it'll stay in the air forever.
glitch seems like the complete opposite disc its a putter with insane glide vs one with almost none sounds like they would pair perfect together!
@@nectar8449 they're wildly different, in terms of glide, yes. I just never gelled with the Berg.
My Burg litterally has zero fade. Just throw it straight and it'll hit your spots. Also, I keep two one speed discs in my bag. A Burg for straight shots and a Polecat for short anhyzer lines.
berg is so good for downhill shots and touchy upshots when you need a step down from a zone like approach disc!
you should compare the berg to the landmine. i think its a good comparison unless the base plastic of the landmine beat in too much already
Berg forever! It’s never let me down and I’ve gotten 2/3 of my aces with it. Anything 210 and under is a berg shot. It almost gets used more than my putter cause I use it for approaches outside c1. Losing it would really mess my game up haha.
Lone star Disc armadillo in bravo plastic is the best one speed. Has to be in bravo or glow plastic though
K1 Soft is a bit touchier, some of those shots would have flown on the lines better with the soft, #teamberg all day, glad you have joined!! I knew you'd like/love it!!!
I am still avoiding 'it' since I have my putting putter in a premium plastic for stright approaches and it is better to learn with that first... or should I buy one... nah. Got a jOKERi on the way that might kick out a midrange OS approach ;)
Oh, and another 1 speed low glide is the Hydrogen by Løft ^_^
One of us! One of us! If you haven't seen his stuff before, check out the Berg Nerd channel here for some inspiration. Dude has the Berg forehand dialed in!
interesting to see the comparison of discraft scorch & discmania mentor
Stokely putts with a Birdie Marvel. He quit using Bergs very early in the season.
IT looks like the K1 Soft (formerly K2) is the plastic you need. Not as overstable as K1, more stable than K3, and it doesn't beat in like the K3 will.
Scott used to putt with thr berg he now putts with the birdie disc golf supply marvel in their hard plastic
Bergs really shine 200 foot and in approach flicks... Yeah you can back hand them, but they feel weird in the hand for sure.. forehand they are buttery smooth...
They will not flip up out of a hyzer and tend to just hold it the whole time... Nose down anny and it will typically hold that as well... But nose up floaty anny and it will flex really nice...
Pretty sure that Scott abandoned doing circle putts with the Berg. He putts with the Marvel, and uses the Berg for approach shots.
Next time you’re in the Atlanta area you should challenge Luke from Swanky to a Berg versus a 1 or 2 speed of his choice challenge.
I’d absolutely buy a bodanza custom stamped berg 🔥🔥
Do you work on forehands with the net as well?
yep
I carry Pigs for the same reasons other people need Bergs. I don't mind the 3 speed, since there's almost no glide.
Especially in softer pro plastic
"Ughhh, I only parked it, dang it" 😂😂
Actually putted with the Berg for a while. Being a spin putter I tended to go 30-50 feet long "if" I missed the basket. Which was why I swapped to berg. But started working on a spush putt instead so now I use envy or proxy instead. The berg has it's good sides but I use a strictly mvp/axiom/streamline bag now.
I've aced hole one at air port lakes
Don't throw a berg on hella hyzer and then wonder why it hyzer dumps on you. Bergs are designed to be stupidly torque resistant, and very straight. I have had a 2017 K1 IceBerg in the bag since it launched and it flies almost exactly the same as it ever did (just a tick less stable now). I very rarely grip it like a throwing putter, I usually grip it like a driver. If I'm throwing backhand with it I'm using all 5 fingers and I'm just pointing and shooting. K1 can hold turnover lines if you actually give it anny and some air and since Bergs are amazing rollers, turnovers are generally the safest play so they are flat when they hit the ground.
Back when it launched I got flamed hard for using it, now it seems like everyone's jumping on the bandwagon. I couldn't care less at this point. I have a few bergs but I only use the same one I've been using for 5 years.
K3 hard is my fav, I tried K3 glow which has been the flippest
Berg Rules. great for any 200 ft holes, and great for wind
try the Innova bull frog in my eyes its very underrated.
Need to get a K1 Soft Berg. They are money and not near are soft as you would think
You need to try the armadillo!!
Love my Berg too but, no putting ever.
If you like the berg then you really need to try a glow armadillo.
Armadillo from Lone star replaced my K3 hard berg 👌
Hole 2, forehand no power. Go power grip two fingers against the rim, makes the disc travel its proper line.