I agree with everything you said in this sermon. However, I think an additional point could be that a lack of justice produces chaos, destruction, and rebellion in lives and nations. David was the king and it was his responsibility as an agent of God through justice in governance as well as as a father in that culture. He had an obligation under the law to punish Amnon but he did nothing for 2 years. He let his past transgressions skew his thinking and thus negated his responsibility as king and father which was his duty. This doesn't mean that Absalom wasn't wrong and sinful to kill his brother, but David is also to blame in this.
@Trevor Chinsamy pillay This is a lot of what I see here in the United States. There's a lack of Justice and then people take matters into their own hands bringing about another sin.Then it just goes on and on. God is a God of love, forgiveness, and mercy. But he is just as much a God of justice. In fact justice is considered a part of what God himself calls true worship. "Seek justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God."
Completely agree with you. David was a terrible father even though he was King. He violated the Torah as well when he took Bathesheba and murdered her husband to cover his sin. He knew what the law stated because Kings were required to write it out. This is very sad and David is to be held responsible for not addressing it.
Everyone here is correct. One more observation I'll add is. Like David his father, Absalom also struggled with rejection from him..... Every action Absalom took after killing amnon was to get his father's approval.... As David was rejected by his father Jesse.... That's what's so fascinating about their relationship bc....of All David's son, Absalom was the most like him..... He had David's heart and courage..... Unfortunately like most young men, pride began to set in. Which in turn ultimately became Absalom's demise..... And joab like most coward played both Fields to hide his involvement
Pastor Begg, I have learned so much from your sermons. Your calming way and your sense of humor helps me learn. Thank you for your faithful service to our Lord Jesus Christ. May God bless you!
Powerful sermon and expounding upon the lineage of David's children's lives as siblings..... The divide & discord amongst sibling's towards and against each other Yet parents failure to instill Godly upright in the home and in each child (ren) without playing favoritism and to addressed any violation to one to another
3 downvotes 😨. Father, we pray for those who heard this message but didn't get it. Thank You for the restorative obedience of our Saviour and His making a Way for us to be transformed *back* into Your Image; Love.
Interesting that it is said that David could not have known what would happen to Tamar or what would happen to Amnon. The scriptures express that David questioned both Amnon's request for Tamar and also Absalom's reequest for Amnon. David had a discernment tap on the shoulder each time but ignored it. David continued to look the other way and ignored the inklings and suspicions that caused him to question motives for requests. Absalom did what was supposed to have been done. Yet, he took it too far when he returned and was embraced by his father. He wanted more; he declared, “If only I were appointed judge in the land! Then everyone who has a complaint or case could come to me and I would see that they receive justice.” He knew it was an ongoing problem in his father's house and leadership staff. He was the elder brother of Tamar, if David the father AND King of this young woman did not carry this out, Absalom was well within the law to do so himself. David was aware of this which is why he did not hold him accountable for the justice against Amnon. David knew Absalom did what he was supposed to do. The law was "eye for an eye--tooth for a tooth" at that time...it was not the "Grace" judgment we are under now of "the LORD will revenge evil for evil." He had a righteous indignation that was correct but then turned incorrect. This is what happens when there is injustice and "respecter of persons" (favortisim...of children and also male favortism when they are acts against women). "Tamar was somewhere..." Tamar was in Absalom's home in mourning for her virginity! She was now to live as a hermet--never to marry and have children which was EVERYTHING to a women back then. Amnon murdered her in a different way than physical. Still in teaching of the Word, men still obscure the truth of leadership that favor and excuse the problem of male abuse (with emphasis towards women). I'm hoping for a movement of repentance amongst (and about) male leadership.
I'm not sure that David's kingdom was falling into ruin, as he left a pretty good foundation upon which Solomon could expand upon, but rather at this point David's family was falling further into ruin.
Third to the throne was Absalom because possibly the 2nd son who's name was Khileab/Daniel, his son with Abigail was probably deceased at this time, which would make Absalom next in line for the throne if Amnon was out of the way.
This scripture sermon is the same stronghold spirits that is at play and has plagued many family, for healing, love, forgiveness can't be, because of unresolved suppressed anger, hatred, and mistrust within the family unit where there is divide, division, curses, and manifestation of generational cycles of wicked evil deeds
GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU PASTOR ALISTAIR BEGG & YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY, YOUR ENTIRE MINISTRY AND YOUR ENTIRE CONGREGATION! 🙏🏻🙏🏾🙏🏿🙏🏾
I agree with everything you said in this sermon. However, I think an additional point could be that a lack of justice produces chaos, destruction, and rebellion in lives and nations. David was the king and it was his responsibility as an agent of God through justice in governance as well as as a father in that culture. He had an obligation under the law to punish Amnon but he did nothing for 2 years. He let his past transgressions skew his thinking and thus negated his responsibility as king and father which was his duty. This doesn't mean that Absalom wasn't wrong and sinful to kill his brother, but David is also to blame in this.
@Trevor Chinsamy pillay This is a lot of what I see here in the United States. There's a lack of Justice and then people take matters into their own hands bringing about another sin.Then it just goes on and on. God is a God of love, forgiveness, and mercy. But he is just as much a God of justice. In fact justice is considered a part of what God himself calls true worship. "Seek justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God."
Completely agree with you. David was a terrible father even though he was King. He violated the Torah as well when he took Bathesheba and murdered her husband to cover his sin. He knew what the law stated because Kings were required to write it out. This is very sad and David is to be held responsible for not addressing it.
Everyone here is correct. One more observation I'll add is. Like David his father, Absalom also struggled with rejection from him..... Every action Absalom took after killing amnon was to get his father's approval.... As David was rejected by his father Jesse.... That's what's so fascinating about their relationship bc....of All David's son, Absalom was the most like him..... He had David's heart and courage..... Unfortunately like most young men, pride began to set in. Which in turn ultimately became Absalom's demise..... And joab like most coward played both Fields to hide his involvement
Amen
Pastor Begg, I have learned so much from your sermons. Your calming way and your sense of humor helps me learn. Thank you for your faithful service to our Lord Jesus Christ. May God bless you!
Thank you pastor for your quiet and soft speaking. I listen better when I hear a quiet voice…
Agree😀nothing more unsettling than a shouting preacher
Powerful sermon and expounding upon the lineage of David's children's lives as siblings..... The divide & discord amongst sibling's towards and against each other
Yet parents failure to instill Godly upright in the home and in each child (ren) without playing favoritism and to addressed any violation to one to another
Thank you, teacher. I’ve enjoyed learning from you for many years. I share your teaching with my children, too.
Thank you Alistair.... Thanks be to God.. There is a Higher Throne...
i sure do miss your daily broadcast on kfax. thank you Jesus for the being the perfect measure of grace and truth.
3 downvotes 😨.
Father, we pray for those who heard this message but didn't get it. Thank You for the restorative obedience of our Saviour and His making a Way for us to be transformed *back* into Your Image; Love.
Interesting that it is said that David could not have known what would happen to Tamar or what would happen to Amnon. The scriptures express that David questioned both Amnon's request for Tamar and also Absalom's reequest for Amnon. David had a discernment tap on the shoulder each time but ignored it. David continued to look the other way and ignored the inklings and suspicions that caused him to question motives for requests. Absalom did what was supposed to have been done. Yet, he took it too far when he returned and was embraced by his father. He wanted more; he declared, “If only I were appointed judge in the land! Then everyone who has a complaint or case could come to me and I would see that they receive justice.” He knew it was an ongoing problem in his father's house and leadership staff. He was the elder brother of Tamar, if David the father AND King of this young woman did not carry this out, Absalom was well within the law to do so himself. David was aware of this which is why he did not hold him accountable for the justice against Amnon. David knew Absalom did what he was supposed to do. The law was "eye for an eye--tooth for a tooth" at that time...it was not the "Grace" judgment we are under now of "the LORD will revenge evil for evil."
He had a righteous indignation that was correct but then turned incorrect. This is what happens when there is injustice and "respecter of persons" (favortisim...of children and also male favortism when they are acts against women). "Tamar was somewhere..." Tamar was in Absalom's home in mourning for her virginity! She was now to live as a hermet--never to marry and have children which was EVERYTHING to a women back then. Amnon murdered her in a different way than physical. Still in teaching of the Word, men still obscure the truth of leadership that favor and excuse the problem of male abuse (with emphasis towards women). I'm hoping for a movement of repentance amongst (and about) male leadership.
I agree that Sao was ultimately responsible baize he failed pact the kin me patriarch - but not with the rest
I'm not sure that David's kingdom was falling into ruin, as he left a pretty good foundation upon which Solomon could expand upon, but rather at this point David's family was falling further into ruin.
Pastor who are you talking about third to the throne and presumed dead in 2 Samuel 3?
Third to the throne was Absalom because possibly the 2nd son who's name was Khileab/Daniel, his son with Abigail was probably deceased at this time, which would make Absalom next in line for the throne if Amnon was out of the way.
Amen!
He's so good at preaching because he's using the Bible as a crib sheet. Shenanigans!
And yet he is where he is at. Do you preach? Let's see if you think you are better
@@eradutiu I don't think he meant that as an insult, but rather sarcasm about the lack of biblical preaching these days.
Why the use of the word "Shenanigans"?
@@kennorthunder2428 I'm sure you've heard of a back-handed compliment. That's not what this is, it's the opposite--a tongue-in-cheek compliment.
@@masterkeep thanks. I think it's more irony than sarcasm, but those are by some used interchangeably.
This scripture sermon is the same stronghold spirits that is at play and has plagued many family, for healing, love, forgiveness can't be, because of unresolved suppressed anger, hatred, and mistrust within the family unit where there is divide, division, curses, and manifestation of generational cycles of wicked evil deeds
Hence "be ye transformed, therefore" BACK into the Image (Love) of your Maker (the Image lost when Adam 'fell')♡♡♡
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Fascinating 😝😝😝 👀😸😹