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I sent you an email for solutions and nothing. Should I put 50 ai agents in the comments till we address solutions? Lmk it's my next option cause reaching out not working
Tom... Love you, watch most of your stuff... this terror apologist did not belong on your show. I will not be watching this episode, after I heard him talking about violent jihadists as though they were peaceful, if you just were nice to them. I will continue watching your episodes, but I will continue to thumbs and and ignore and takiyya mongers (religiously motivated liars, who feel righteous in their lies, because of their religion)
Wow. This was just released and there are 8200 bots crawling everywhere. Y'all need to chill. At least pretend to have watched for at least an hr before adding your 'nudge' posts.
Yup, people indeed have no idea of what's going on. I lived in Israel for 20+ years. Both sides are trying to "manage" the problem of terrorism instead of solving it. What we have here is a representative of a territory controlled by recognized terrorist organizations, is trying to convince a person who has little understanding of middle eastern culture that. 1)A group of terrorist organizations are the same as a recognized sovereign state ally. Israel provides technology and high quality engineers to the US, and the other side provides nothing but requests for resources. The host has no idea that the society there is hereditary and tribal for most, that whatever the "people" want has very little meaning. It's all about clan warfare. The guest is convincing that the us can "fix" the problem using the same methods that were used to "fix" Afghanistan and Iraq. Well... it's going to be the same. But the biggest lie in this whole narrative is pretending that both sides are independent. Both are used by other powers for their own goals, and the people suffer tremendously on both sides. What's going on there is horrible, but is very well explained in scripture, both Islamic and the old testiment. Those who do not fight evil, will suffer from it. This is true for everyone involved. In Russian culture it's said something like "Those who will not take out n@z1s, will be taken out for them".
@@kimwood6632 yup. The rules of the all mighty are universal. I just want to caution the people that don't look at it critically and don't know that the host and the guest are speaking in same words, but for both they have different meaning.
Finally someone who knows what's going on. I lived in Iraq, Kurdistan, China, Europe and the US and I can say I see things very clearly. It is just our stupid jungle human behavior
Comment posted 32 minutes ago, and video posted 55 minutes ago: you're waiting in the sidelines with "sophisticated" propaganeda response to try to misdirect people to be empathetic to the genocidal side of the "conflict." Also, way too high level that you present which makes it vague and inaccurate. Let's dive down instead: 1) will you give 54% of your land/assets you own to the Palestinians who have been displaced by the atrocities they've suffered since Oct. 7th and before that? 2) How did it take IDF 5 hours to respond to the border breaches, when it only takes 45 minutes maximum to get to any point along the border? Distract distract distract, avoid avoid avoid, namecall namecall namecall, attack attack attack - are the tired and overused tactics of this 4th reich fascist regime which is very soon going to be squashed by God and the divine.
Well said... "Those who will not take on evil, will be those who suffer from it. That applies to every geographical location. And yes, that includes here at home. But the paradox is in who is defining "evil". Peace.
Very good point . " Palestinians ware not asked when the sate of Israel was created , why should Israel agree or not with the creation of an Palestinian state ??? " .
Tom, the truth is out along time and now again. A repressed people have the right to react. I’m frustrated again and again as to how this can can be a basis for a debate. We had the IRA in our occupied country. What’s happening in Gaza is despicable. Genicide ….. !
How is arguing for Aryan state in 1933 objectively any different than arguing for a Jewish state? Even based on the victim argument of how the Germanic tribes & Prussians were attacked throughout history & used the same victim statements in their justification.
The difference is that the Jewish state exists. And no amount of cry baby wailing is going to change that. Either accept it and move forward peacefully or leave the conversation.
This is definitely one extreme side of the story. I agree with a comment about fact, checking everything he has said because there are so many lies or mistruths. It’s not fair to the uneducated audience to digest this as fact, without offering fact, checking, and the other perspective I would suggest having, Alan Dershowitz, or the son of Hamas on. Both very compelling perspectives.
Can you mention one lie that he said ? In this way we can do a quick ' fact checking' . The fact that you hear things for the first time doesn't mean that they are lies , but that you have been kept in total ignorance over these facts.
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Make the Palestinian territory quasi Israeli just like in America with the Natives. The model is there, it works, it would work better in Israel. One state, one military, one legal system. Natives in America aren't happy but they are appeased enough for stability. Two state solutions are a non starter. It surprises me that educated people on both sides advocate for two states, it's impossible unless Palestinians convert to Judaism. The model USA created is very fair, hence it works. .... Do people not bring up the fact Palestinians pay taxes to Israel without any reciprocity because they don't know or they don't think it matters. It matters, it matters when people talk about occupation. None of that really matters. Give Palestinians health care, welfare, and reservations like in the USA. ANYONE who fights back, in prison then. The thousands of Palestinians in jail, treat them equal but not special. It's so simple. It's so much cheaper and more straight forward, its offensive the way Israel acts, it just seems simply stupid and irrational. It seems like they want to kill as many non Israelis as possible, regardless of the Israelis harmed. The Israelis seem to think they can import citizens... But loyalty and countries don't work that way....
The way he put his life in danger and difficulties to help free people and get injustice, means he has got lots of love for humanity. 🙌 He has got a huge love bobble ❤❤❤
All people should live in peace. The Jews returned to their small plot of land. The Arabs have more than enough land. Why don't they take monetary compensation and leave their cousins alone?
@@whackedgarfieldAnd how many people were killed or ethnically cleansed in the creation of Pakistan? Then show me the graph that shows the size of the Christian communities in the ME over time (Egyptian Copt, Maronite Christians in Lebanon, Assyrians in Jordan, Iraq and elsewhere)..hyper focusing on Israeli-Palestinian dispute is also limiting the conversation through framing.
Forced by tremendous pressure from the US on Arab governments. They wanted to bring Arab jews to Israel in order for the world not question what eastern Europeans are doing in the middle east.
Very good point, but this do not justify the Genocide in Palestine. Why should the Palestinians pay for the wrong-doing of the others ? Using the ' victimization' card in order to justify your wrong-doing in Palestine doesn't work anymore . People know very well who is the victim in this story.
In 2004, the International Court of Justice established, in a case relating to Israel and the West Bank, that a state like Israel that is in belligerent occupation is not in the same position as a state that is attacked by another state. That means Israel does not, in fact, have a right to defend itself under Article 51 of the U.N. Charter, says John Quigley, emeritus professor of international law at Ohio State University. Instead, it falls within the law relating to a belligerent occupation and to actions taken by a military force within the occupied population. “That puts a much greater burden on Israel to protect the population,” Quigley says. Under the Fourth Geneva Convention, which decrees that occupied people are “protected persons,” the occupying state has an obligation to protect this population. "Take the worst thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000 times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians" -Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
See BERKELEY WOMEN'S LAW JOURNAL T The Impact of U.S. Intervention on Afghan Women's Rights by Sonali Kolhatkart The United States led the campaign to arm Afghan fundamentalists and empowered these groups over the last two decades which spurred the dramatic demise of Afghan women's rights.
Finally, someone is talking about this. I hope someone hears why people are suffering. This is what we need to talk about: if you treat people wrong, someone needs to do something; Iseral needs to be a safe place for the people
Tom I sent you an email to the izdaeco white paper. Why keep talking about problems if your not even looking for solutions??? Are you just about the VIEWS AND CONTENT or are you looking for solution based ideas like the channel says???
49:34 the peace talks were trilateral between the Israelis, PLO and Hamas being the main 3. It wasn’t a negotiation between a unified front of Palestine and Israel.
Tom doesn't have to know everything that every guest knows. That's the whole point of having various guests. I would not tolerate being accused of lies unless specifics were articulated. I find it so extraordinary when unthinking lemmings have so much faith in the government narrative that you actually think you are accurately informed. That's called mind-control. Think for yourselves.
When you killed an entire family and left one boy living his entire life in trauma watching his family being massacred by the IDF , it's no brainer don't ya think that boy will become another resistance fighter with different names. Well imagine that boy was you 😏
@coltkom What an ignorant comment. America helped rebuild Japan for years after the atrocities and genocide that WE committed. Somehow you see a comparison?
Opposite of reality, the people who took your freedom over the last quarter century all did so in the name of opposing Islam not supporting it. Then that same power structure made right wingers the new 'Muslims' after J6 yet somehow they all learned nothing from any of it & can't make the same mistakes all over again fast enough. Stockholm syndrome is a heck of a thing.
I absolutely love this channel! Thanks Tom for bringing these oh-so-important dialogues to us! Even if you are super annoying with the recycled videos 😜
I know Tom is trying to be reasonable and solution-oriented, but after listening to this exchange, I have even a more respect for Omar's patience in responding to Israel lobby talking points that Tom has absorbed.
I don't care about Israel or Gaza or Lebanon while my country is falling apart culturally, economically, and politically. What's more, people in other countries don't care about mine. Time for Americans to value the United States above all other countries
It's an empire not a country so the 2 are directly connected. US taxpayers paid for all of the ordnance involved & speech laws are being passed domestically to protect that 1 nation from constitutional speech inside of the US. 99% of supposed 'enemies' are also just mad about that 1 thing & wouldn't be a problem otherwise so caring about this issue IS caring about the US.
The frame you are setting is purposefully as wrong as your idea of limited knowledge the American people have. This is intentional. So the video/topic is moot
This guy smooths over violence “ there was on occasion some asshole who would occasionally set off a bomb here or there “. Initially, he tries to to present himself as an objective observer but with any counterpoint perspective he can’t resist, exposing true intention. Constantly manipulates you by bringing up children and grandmas,
That's why we need to keep it that way. You worry about it. We don't need to know this fake impending doom ...that's your job...Even you can't do anything about it as much as you know...
It would be interesting to know his sources. I have listened to a fair amount of the Israel Palestine debate. I have seen LOTS of evidence from the atrocities committed by Palestine. But Omar does not present any actual data, just a bunch of stories. Great discussion by Triggernometry on this topic WITH EVIDENCE: th-cam.com/video/6wrhzDBvhEc/w-d-xo.html
Sounds dubious or I doubt you'd have that take as the respective bodycounts/atrocities speak for themselves. The strong also have a far greater moral responsibility to be restrained/proportional than the weak. Just like with grown man fighting a woman/child, we typically have greater moral expectations of those with far more physical power (& therefore tactical options) not less.
Some would argue that Islam is a crime against humanity, and thus is morally unacceptable. The government of China appears to hold this view. Also, Omar completely neglects to mention Egypt when he is talking about Israel keeping Gazans trapped in an open air prison. Egypt shares a border with Gaza. This seems very biased. What's his agenda?
@hanisolaqa I'm not in the US lol🤣🤣🤣 And I have actually spent a substantial amount of time in Israel. Omar speaks only to people who will not travel to verify his words.
The hate in the comments shows how manipulated Americans are ! (As it was very well described in the previous episode about "Brainwashed people") Great episode 👏👍Thank you Tom
Tom, I’m really glad that you invite such a guest. I watch impact theory for years and would be disappointed if you didn’t. Just on thing to mention and that’s love bobble! It’s not easy for him or me who suffered the painful experience to love those who hate you! You didn’t live like him and that was the love Palestinians gave to those came to their country thinking the need love. However that was a very kind suggestion
Thanks for asking about Palestinian citizenship in Israel, that they serve in government etc. Why did t you ask how many Jews are citizens of Palestine and serve in the government there?
Because what you're calling a government is only a prison gang, they don 't control anything. Pa is not self governing in any way, it's occupied/ruled from outside by the world's most ironic kind of neo-not-Z's using WW2 Germany tactics like 'we had to liquidate ze village because it harbored ze resistance' and so on, they/we are basically Darth Vader at best.
@@gratefulprepsnj How is your bootlicking hasbara..... All of the land is dominated brutally and in a violent way by "the Occupiers" the "most moral" and violent people in the whole world. Hasbara trolls will come in full force
@@gratefulprepsnj of course not. Not only that, some Jews have been barbarically attacked and lynched to death for accidentally entering Palestinian areas.
You both are fantastic, although I fully agree with Mr. Baddar. America has to stop the Impirialism! Mr. Bilyeu, you are a good example of America but you are draming. Everytime I can I try to reach VP Harris to convince her to stop the shipping of weapons to Netanyahu.
Thank you for a great interview, it has reinforced for me what a mess it all is and how difficult a solution is going to be, but at least we are talking about it.
Once I heard his take on Iran and the "axis of resistance," I know enough about where his allegiance lies. I wonder what he'd say if asked, "do you love America?"
Thanks for bringing this guy on Tom ! He definitely made a lot of sense and I do NOT want to keep supporting Israel like I highly doubt “ The founding Fathers “ wanted this W Hamas. America should always come first we should be taxing them for billions not the other way around.
I find it very interesting that a lot of people are calling this guest a biased. But no one is talking at all about the primarily Pro Israeli people who he has on his guests. He is not any more biased than any of the other people who've been on Tom's show. His particular bias is on the other side of the issue
Israel is an incredibly multifaceted society. This guy is rendering it into a caricature, possibly an antisemite caricature. Go study history and see this guy doesn't know his
The Jews in the Arab world did not experience the same discrimination and racism they endured in Europe. Palestine took in Jewish refugees as did many other Muslim countries. So there is more education that people need to understand the history better.
I am very sure that you are NOT a Mizrahi Jew. You have no idea how many massacres and injustices were committed by Muslims against Jews since the 7th century. No minorities still left in the region want to live under Arab Islamic supremacy anymore.
OK, divulge away. It's a big mind bend to expect that claim to be accepted so please, enlighten us. BTW after the 2nd WW when lots of Jewish came to England, many people did all they could to welcome them and bring business and customers to them like my grandparents (the fact they dismissed their kind hosts is another story) but your anti European assertion is wrong.
Im from Israel. This is pure lying. Please come to my house and ill show you around, and you will see exactly what's happening. And all of you who are going to say ''OH YOU STOLE SOMEONES HOUSE?!'' My great grandfather bought land in this small town I live in. He was Palestinian (Jewish). He bought it from local Bedouins (does anyone here even know what that is?) So this is legally my land.
Your case is very ( numerically ) very insignificant in comparaison to the rest of the land stolen by Zionists ! Look what happens in West bank. Why Palestine has shrinked in only 15% of what was the initial Palestine. Why Gaza is 2.2 millinon when before it was not more than 700 thausand ? Because you forcedly displaced almost 1.2 million Palestinians ( refugees) from the cities and kibbutz around Gaza ( Ashkelon etc) . Thus stop commenting stupid things.
Of course israeli will say everyone on the other side is a liar. The guy your accusing of lying is an American. The Israelis have been systematically brainwashed by the indoctrination from nearly their birth.
And as usually , the IDF members, charged with propaganda have started polluting this video with their ' comments - publicity' for Crypto .... Very old and nasty method to make the viewers to not go through the comments or to lose interest on commenting .
Tom your bias is showing. Just saying...occupying forces are supposed to provide the the occupied with sustenance by international law. The Israeli occupiers were choking off the Gaza strip from all essential products that any society needs to survive. The Gazans were starving before OCt 7. For 10 years the Israelis were restricting everyday things from Gaza. until the Gazans were in despair. Before oct. 7
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Maybe they should've asked their billionaire Hamas leaders in Qatar for support
This is very untrue. Gaza was a complicated place and there were pockets of incredible wealth and abundance, but not for the average person and certainly not for those who did not work for Hamas.
Take a look at a Gabor Matte video about this , he says some of the same things , he is a Jewish American therapist who has friend that are Jewish and Palestinian He brings an accurate and non bias perspective and goes into the history of the region to give good perspective into why this is happening. Also the United States is already building a sea port in Gaza as we speak - to provide a port for oil production- there are already mining oil in the Gaza region . The canal which will provide billions of dollars to Isreal runs through Gaza So there are 2 huge reasons for this war The ethnic and religious conflict has always been there and now it’s being exploited
@@taonow369 Mat Gabor is only born Jewish, but never identifies as a Jewish man. He’s mentally ill and has always been very controversial due to his illness.
There are so many wonderful things about this country and the world. It would be great to just see you mix the stories up sometimes. The Doom And Gloom is just not a fair representation of how things really are. Thanks, but we go to have a mix of reality.
Tom deletes comments he disagrees with. Tom is pro-censorship. I'm done with Tom. 2 things I can't abide: anti-free speech, & hypocrisy. Unsubscribed. I can't help but notice this video is ALREADY getting ratio'd lol. You can delete all the comments you like, Tom, but you can't prevent people from ratio'ing your videos...
Question to all. The future one big New Irsrael where there are no fence and walls between gaza and westbank and in a long term peace between all the different groups? I know sounds crazy but in a long term the only solution? What do you think? Better ideas?
Europeans took over America because they had a different eco-society. Originally land was the core in agri-society, Then capital, jobs and business in the industrial society. Today we live in tech society. Land has no value. You can live on land but you can’t make a living. That’s crucial. Less than 1 in a million people in the modern economy makes their lively hood from land. Many live from industry. Most live from tech. Palestinians live off land. They just can’t compete. They are not competitive and thus victims.
First I will say what I am not: I am not Israeli, I am not Jewish (ethnically or religiously), I am not Arab, not Muslim, and I certainly am not in the Woke camp. I am also much more sympathetic to the Israeli side. And, although I typically find the pro-Palestine side of debaters and apologists disingenuous and insencere, there are two guys I like. One is Omar, and the other is Marc Lamont Hill. Though I don't agree with them almost on most their points, I believe they are sincere and honest when it comes to their defense of the Paleatinian side.
Check Nelson Mandela connection with Mossad, mby you might change your mind, mby the octopus is bigger than you thought. Deep respect, and admires to what you do.
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I sent you an email for solutions and nothing. Should I put 50 ai agents in the comments till we address solutions? Lmk it's my next option cause reaching out not working
Tom... Love you, watch most of your stuff... this terror apologist did not belong on your show. I will not be watching this episode, after I heard him talking about violent jihadists as though they were peaceful, if you just were nice to them. I will continue watching your episodes, but I will continue to thumbs and and ignore and takiyya mongers (religiously motivated liars, who feel righteous in their lies, because of their religion)
Tom I think you need to bring Dr. Anat wilf. She will explain in English the Israeli position
Tom I think you need to bring Dr. Anat wilf. She will explain in English the Israeli position
Tom I think you need to bring Dr. Anat wilf. She will explain in English the Israeli position
Let's see Omar Baddar debate Douglas Murray💯%
What’s the point Douglas is just a gay lier
I really don’t want to see Douglas Murray speaking, full stop. But yeh an actual debate would be interesting. Tom doesn’t do a good job
Wow. This was just released and there are 8200 bots crawling everywhere.
Y'all need to chill. At least pretend to have watched for at least an hr before adding your 'nudge' posts.
"Nobody is talking about it" - proceeds to repeat the same lies the media has been regurgitating for months
Let me guess... The Israelis are innocent angels and the Palestinians are so mean? Grow up.
Yup, people indeed have no idea of what's going on. I lived in Israel for 20+ years.
Both sides are trying to "manage" the problem of terrorism instead of solving it.
What we have here is a representative of a territory controlled by recognized terrorist organizations, is trying to convince a person who has little understanding of middle eastern culture that.
1)A group of terrorist organizations are the same as a recognized sovereign state ally. Israel provides technology and high quality engineers to the US, and the other side provides nothing but requests for resources.
The host has no idea that the society there is hereditary and tribal for most, that whatever the "people" want has very little meaning. It's all about clan warfare.
The guest is convincing that the us can "fix" the problem using the same methods that were used to "fix" Afghanistan and Iraq. Well... it's going to be the same.
But the biggest lie in this whole narrative is pretending that both sides are independent.
Both are used by other powers for their own goals, and the people suffer tremendously on both sides.
What's going on there is horrible, but is very well explained in scripture, both Islamic and the old testiment.
Those who do not fight evil, will suffer from it. This is true for everyone involved.
In Russian culture it's said something like "Those who will not take out n@z1s, will be taken out for them".
So just like everywhere on the planet.
@@kimwood6632 yup. The rules of the all mighty are universal.
I just want to caution the people that don't look at it critically and don't know that the host and the guest are speaking in same words, but for both they have different meaning.
Finally someone who knows what's going on. I lived in Iraq, Kurdistan, China, Europe and the US and I can say I see things very clearly. It is just our stupid jungle human behavior
Comment posted 32 minutes ago, and video posted 55 minutes ago: you're waiting in the sidelines with "sophisticated" propaganeda response to try to misdirect people to be empathetic to the genocidal side of the "conflict." Also, way too high level that you present which makes it vague and inaccurate. Let's dive down instead: 1) will you give 54% of your land/assets you own to the Palestinians who have been displaced by the atrocities they've suffered since Oct. 7th and before that? 2) How did it take IDF 5 hours to respond to the border breaches, when it only takes 45 minutes maximum to get to any point along the border? Distract distract distract, avoid avoid avoid, namecall namecall namecall, attack attack attack - are the tired and overused tactics of this 4th reich fascist regime which is very soon going to be squashed by God and the divine.
Well said... "Those who will not take on evil, will be those who suffer from it.
That applies to every geographical location. And yes, that includes here at home.
But the paradox is in who is defining "evil".
Peace.
Very good point . " Palestinians ware not asked when the sate of Israel was created , why should Israel agree or not with the creation of an Palestinian state ??? " .
Tom, the truth is out along time and now again. A repressed people have the right to react. I’m frustrated again and again as to how this can can be a basis for a debate. We had the IRA in our occupied country. What’s happening in Gaza is despicable. Genicide ….. !
How is arguing for Aryan state in 1933 objectively any different than arguing for a Jewish state?
Even based on the victim argument of how the Germanic tribes & Prussians were attacked throughout history & used the same victim statements in their justification.
@@tyalprince the Jewish state has a 20% Arab minority with equal rights and no state church. You're full of 💩
The difference is that the Jewish state exists. And no amount of cry baby wailing is going to change that. Either accept it and move forward peacefully or leave the conversation.
@@akniznik so did the Aryan state & eventually there hate did get the cry babies to straighten them out.
Maybe we’ll repeat history & have justice.
OMG this blind spot is way too big.
Isn't this entire problem valid all over the spectre. ? Great conversation.
This is definitely one extreme side of the story. I agree with a comment about fact, checking everything he has said because there are so many lies or mistruths. It’s not fair to the uneducated audience to digest this as fact, without offering fact, checking, and the other perspective I would suggest having, Alan Dershowitz, or the son of Hamas on. Both very compelling perspectives.
Can you mention one lie that he said ? In this way we can do a quick ' fact checking' . The fact that you hear things for the first time doesn't mean that they are lies , but that you have been kept in total ignorance over these facts.
WTF a commercial every 30 seconds!! So much for laying down and listening to this podcast. How aggravating!!
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Make the Palestinian territory quasi Israeli just like in America with the Natives. The model is there, it works, it would work better in Israel. One state, one military, one legal system. Natives in America aren't happy but they are appeased enough for stability. Two state solutions are a non starter. It surprises me that educated people on both sides advocate for two states, it's impossible unless Palestinians convert to Judaism. The model USA created is very fair, hence it works. .... Do people not bring up the fact Palestinians pay taxes to Israel without any reciprocity because they don't know or they don't think it matters. It matters, it matters when people talk about occupation. None of that really matters. Give Palestinians health care, welfare, and reservations like in the USA. ANYONE who fights back, in prison then. The thousands of Palestinians in jail, treat them equal but not special. It's so simple. It's so much cheaper and more straight forward, its offensive the way Israel acts, it just seems simply stupid and irrational. It seems like they want to kill as many non Israelis as possible, regardless of the Israelis harmed. The Israelis seem to think they can import citizens... But loyalty and countries don't work that way....
The way he put his life in danger and difficulties to help free people and get injustice, means he has got lots of love for humanity. 🙌
He has got a huge love bobble ❤❤❤
this guy needs to go to the frontline, he's full of absolute bullshit
Truth is finally getting out
The Arab narrative maybe, but not the truth.
You can't discuss this seriously ignoring AngloAmerican geopolitics.
All people should live in peace. The Jews returned to their small plot of land. The Arabs have more than enough land. Why don't they take monetary compensation and leave their cousins alone?
How many Jews were forced out of Arab countries?
all of them
@@whackedgarfieldAnd how many people were killed or ethnically cleansed in the creation of Pakistan?
Then show me the graph that shows the size of the Christian communities in the ME over time (Egyptian Copt, Maronite Christians in Lebanon, Assyrians in Jordan, Iraq and elsewhere)..hyper focusing on Israeli-Palestinian dispute is also limiting the conversation through framing.
Forced by tremendous pressure from the US on Arab governments. They wanted to bring Arab jews to Israel in order for the world not question what eastern Europeans are doing in the middle east.
Very good point, but this do not justify the Genocide in Palestine. Why should the Palestinians pay for the wrong-doing of the others ? Using the ' victimization' card in order to justify your wrong-doing in Palestine doesn't work anymore . People know very well who is the victim in this story.
@@lymitutit3046I reject your use of inflammatory words and cannot tell whether you are talking about what is happening now or 75 years ago.
In 2004, the International Court of Justice established, in a case relating to Israel and the West Bank, that a state like Israel that is in belligerent occupation is not in the same position as a state that is attacked by another state.
That means Israel does not, in fact, have a right to defend itself under Article 51 of the U.N. Charter, says John Quigley, emeritus professor of international law at Ohio State University. Instead, it falls within the law relating to a belligerent occupation and to actions taken by a military force within the occupied population.
“That puts a much greater burden on Israel to protect the population,” Quigley says. Under the Fourth Geneva Convention, which decrees that occupied people are “protected persons,” the occupying state has an obligation to protect this population.
"Take the worst thing you can say about Hamas, multiply it by 1,000 times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression and killing and dispossession of Palestinians"
-Gabor Maté, Holocaust survivor
This guy is spewing misinformation. Educate yourself properly. No side is a saint, but this guy is immersed in imagination.
100%. They are a criminal rogue state! And we’re funding and enabling their crimes
He speaks the truth. Lying gee side supporters can’t have the truth revealed! Keep up the bs hasbarist
@@onsen2000 exactly! And mate Gabor is mentally unstable, he is not an example of truth.
So many blinded by relgion and media its sad at every angle
Religion doesn't blind people. False prophets do. We have an abundance of false prophets.
Brutality is just like in South Africa under apartheid.
Which is exactly why Israel is removing their enslavers and ensuring Freedom and Liberty for YHVH's Chosen People.
Why nobody talks about Women in Afghanistan why is no one is protesting for that ?
Pretty sure we fought a 20 year war & spent $5 trillion over that…. Why don’t you go fix it this time? 🤣
Did they not have 20 years of us fighting for them?
Take your BS gaslighting somewhere else.
Because if it isn’t about the Jews, there’s no news!
@@tyalprince not over that, thats not even part of why we were there. That was just an afterthought. Trust me.
See BERKELEY WOMEN'S LAW JOURNAL T
The Impact of U.S. Intervention on Afghan Women's Rights by Sonali Kolhatkart
The United States led the campaign to arm Afghan fundamentalists and empowered these groups over the last two decades which spurred the dramatic demise of Afghan women's rights.
Finally, someone is talking about this. I hope someone hears why people are suffering. This is what we need to talk about: if you treat people wrong, someone needs to do something; Iseral needs to be a safe place for the people
Tom I sent you an email to the izdaeco white paper. Why keep talking about problems if your not even looking for solutions???
Are you just about the VIEWS AND CONTENT or are you looking for solution based ideas like the channel says???
49:34 the peace talks were trilateral between the Israelis, PLO and Hamas being the main 3. It wasn’t a negotiation between a unified front of Palestine and Israel.
Is this a new episode? I never know.
Plenty of lies in this episode with absolutely 0 fact checking
Tom doesn’t know enough to fact check him. I was thinking the same
Tom doesn't have to know everything that every guest knows. That's the whole point of having various guests.
I would not tolerate being accused of lies unless specifics were articulated.
I find it so extraordinary when unthinking lemmings have so much faith in the government narrative that you actually think you are accurately informed. That's called mind-control. Think for yourselves.
@@dgvisuals 100% this was worse than FAKE NEWS !
Fro the river to the sea Palestine will soon be free… free of hamass
When you killed an entire family and left one boy living his entire life in trauma watching his family being massacred by the IDF , it's no brainer don't ya think that boy will become another resistance fighter with different names.
Well imagine that boy was you 😏
@@bumblebum32The Japanese would disagree.
@coltkom What an ignorant comment. America helped rebuild Japan for years after the atrocities and genocide that WE committed. Somehow you see a comparison?
@@coltkomthey had 30 years and no social media to interfere with indoctrination/deprogramming/education whichever term we should use.
No that won't happen
Islam or freedom, choose
And if someone gave those two only options to you when you’ve devoted your whole life to your god?
Opposite of reality, the people who took your freedom over the last quarter century all did so in the name of opposing Islam not supporting it. Then that same power structure made right wingers the new 'Muslims' after J6 yet somehow they all learned nothing from any of it & can't make the same mistakes all over again fast enough. Stockholm syndrome is a heck of a thing.
How are my phallustinians doing😂
I absolutely love this channel! Thanks Tom for bringing these oh-so-important dialogues to us! Even if you are super annoying with the recycled videos 😜
I know Tom is trying to be reasonable and solution-oriented, but after listening to this exchange, I have even a more respect for Omar's patience in responding to Israel lobby talking points that Tom has absorbed.
I don't care about Israel or Gaza or Lebanon while my country is falling apart culturally, economically, and politically. What's more, people in other countries don't care about mine.
Time for Americans to value the United States above all other countries
It's an empire not a country so the 2 are directly connected. US taxpayers paid for all of the ordnance involved & speech laws are being passed domestically to protect that 1 nation from constitutional speech inside of the US. 99% of supposed 'enemies' are also just mad about that 1 thing & wouldn't be a problem otherwise so caring about this issue IS caring about the US.
The frame you are setting is purposefully as wrong as your idea of limited knowledge the American people have. This is intentional. So the video/topic is moot
It's a moral situation
I want to see if The Hidden Imam is real. Bring the chaos. Order Out of Chaos.
What the roman siege did to the ancient Israelites, WRONG.
Stand by truth and humanity!
Thank you both.
This guy smooths over violence “ there was on occasion some asshole who would occasionally set off a bomb here or there “. Initially, he tries to to present himself as an objective observer but with any counterpoint perspective he can’t resist, exposing true intention. Constantly manipulates you by bringing up children and grandmas,
This guy is very overlooking of many factors just like Israelis.
Another re-upload. Yawn
That's why we need to keep it that way. You worry about it. We don't need to know this fake impending doom ...that's your job...Even you can't do anything about it as much as you know...
Finally some new content 🎉🎉
It would be interesting to know his sources. I have listened to a fair amount of the Israel Palestine debate. I have seen LOTS of evidence from the atrocities committed by Palestine. But Omar does not present any actual data, just a bunch of stories.
Great discussion by Triggernometry on this topic WITH EVIDENCE: th-cam.com/video/6wrhzDBvhEc/w-d-xo.html
Sounds dubious or I doubt you'd have that take as the respective bodycounts/atrocities speak for themselves. The strong also have a far greater moral responsibility to be restrained/proportional than the weak. Just like with grown man fighting a woman/child, we typically have greater moral expectations of those with far more physical power (& therefore tactical options) not less.
Unit 8200 is definitely in the chat. Lol
YHVH Has Spoken. Israel Obeys. That is All.
Thank you for encouraging viewers to be their best selves!...
Some would argue that Islam is a crime against humanity, and thus is morally unacceptable. The government of China appears to hold this view.
Also, Omar completely neglects to mention Egypt when he is talking about Israel keeping Gazans trapped in an open air prison. Egypt shares a border with Gaza. This seems very biased. What's his agenda?
don't several countries share the border with Gaza and are also refusing entry to their countries?
@@captainKbobkeeshan No. Just Israel and Egypt. You are thinking of the West Bank.
The surrounding countries don't want Gazans. That says a lot about these rock throwing primitives.
Thank you so much Tom for this great conversation 🙏
Put Omar on alongside Gad Saad.
Omar needs to have everything he says fact checked and challenged as he lies out of his ass way too easily.
Saad is a joke, a traitor, and no one takes him seriously except you pathetic zios.
Obviously you have never left the US
LOL Gad Mossad.
@hanisolaqa I'm not in the US lol🤣🤣🤣
And I have actually spent a substantial amount of time in Israel. Omar speaks only to people who will not travel to verify his words.
@@hanisolaqa you see in his response all you need to know. What a clown. 🤡
Excellent interview
The hate in the comments shows how manipulated Americans are ! (As it was very well described in the previous episode about "Brainwashed people")
Great episode 👏👍Thank you Tom
Tom, I’m really glad that you invite such a guest. I watch impact theory for years and would be disappointed if you didn’t. Just on thing to mention and that’s love bobble! It’s not easy for him or me who suffered the painful experience to love those who hate you! You didn’t live like him and that was the love Palestinians gave to those came to their country thinking the need love. However that was a very kind suggestion
Thanks for asking about Palestinian citizenship in Israel, that they serve in government etc. Why did t you ask how many Jews are citizens of Palestine and serve in the government there?
Because what you're calling a government is only a prison gang, they don 't control anything. Pa is not self governing in any way, it's occupied/ruled from outside by the world's most ironic kind of neo-not-Z's using WW2 Germany tactics like 'we had to liquidate ze village because it harbored ze resistance' and so on, they/we are basically Darth Vader at best.
Are there Jews that live in Gaza or West Bank? That is what I was wondering
@@gratefulprepsnj How is your bootlicking hasbara..... All of the land is dominated brutally and in a violent way by "the Occupiers" the "most moral" and violent people in the whole world. Hasbara trolls will come in full force
@@gratefulprepsnj of course not. Not only that, some Jews have been barbarically attacked and lynched to death for accidentally entering Palestinian areas.
Truth
Thank YOUUUUUU,.....amerikkka ‼️‼️‼️
You both are fantastic, although I fully agree with Mr. Baddar. America has to stop the Impirialism! Mr. Bilyeu, you are a good example of America but you are draming. Everytime I can I try to reach VP Harris to convince her to stop the shipping of weapons to Netanyahu.
Eye opening, smoke and mirrors shattering!
Thank you for a great interview, it has reinforced for me what a mess it all is and how difficult a solution is going to be, but at least we are talking about it.
Why won't any other state take palestinians as refugees?
This isn’t your original idea?
Because they want to live on their land. They will never give up, ever.. so zionist want to get rid of the problem and genocide
No one should be allowed to be that stupid today.
This is going to be interesting to say the least 👀🤔💭
Once I heard his take on Iran and the "axis of resistance," I know enough about where his allegiance lies. I wonder what he'd say if asked, "do you love America?"
Thanks for bringing this guy on Tom ! He definitely made a lot of sense and I do NOT want to keep supporting Israel like I highly doubt “ The founding Fathers “ wanted this W Hamas. America should always come first we should be taxing them for billions not the other way around.
I find it very interesting that a lot of people are calling this guest a biased. But no one is talking at all about the primarily Pro Israeli people who he has on his guests. He is not any more biased than any of the other people who've been on Tom's show. His particular bias is on the other side of the issue
Israel is an incredibly multifaceted society. This guy is rendering it into a caricature, possibly an antisemite caricature. Go study history and see this guy doesn't know his
Antisemite caricature? Ha, what a ridiculous conclusion to make.
I feel like this guy should move to Palestine and run for office.
You need to have Haviv Rettig Gur on
The thumbnail says it all. Clickbait. PASS. Plus, had enough of Tom copying Chris Williamson. Though unlike Chris, he is fear mongering. Unsubscribed.
The Jews in the Arab world did not experience the same discrimination and racism they endured in Europe. Palestine took in Jewish refugees as did many other Muslim countries. So there is more education that people need to understand the history better.
I am very sure that you are NOT a Mizrahi Jew. You have no idea how many massacres and injustices were committed by Muslims against Jews since the 7th century. No minorities still left in the region want to live under Arab Islamic supremacy anymore.
OK, divulge away. It's a big mind bend to expect that claim to be accepted so please, enlighten us. BTW after the 2nd WW when lots of Jewish came to England, many people did all they could to welcome them and bring business and customers to them like my grandparents (the fact they dismissed their kind hosts is another story) but your anti European assertion is wrong.
Great episode and topic. I would love to hear Sam Harris's reaction to this episode.
@@brianbaker1302 i would love to never hear from sam harris again.
Sam would show the terrorist sympathizer for what he really is.
Im from Israel.
This is pure lying. Please come to my house and ill show you around, and you will see exactly what's happening.
And all of you who are going to say ''OH YOU STOLE SOMEONES HOUSE?!''
My great grandfather bought land in this small town I live in. He was Palestinian (Jewish). He bought it from local Bedouins (does anyone here even know what that is?)
So this is legally my land.
What about Gaza ? West Bank and all the other places that have not been bought ? What about Golan heights ?
@@software_developer5what about…what about….
Your case is very ( numerically ) very insignificant in comparaison to the rest of the land stolen by Zionists ! Look what happens in West bank. Why Palestine has shrinked in only 15% of what was the initial Palestine. Why Gaza is 2.2 millinon when before it was not more than 700 thausand ? Because you forcedly displaced almost 1.2 million Palestinians ( refugees) from the cities and kibbutz around Gaza ( Ashkelon etc) . Thus stop commenting stupid things.
Of course israeli will say everyone on the other side is a liar. The guy your accusing of lying is an American. The Israelis have been systematically brainwashed by the indoctrination from nearly their birth.
Keep spreading lies
And as usually , the IDF members, charged with propaganda have started polluting this video with their ' comments - publicity' for Crypto .... Very old and nasty method to make the viewers to not go through the comments or to lose interest on commenting .
Tom your bias is showing. Just saying...occupying forces are supposed to provide the the occupied with sustenance by international law. The Israeli occupiers were choking off the Gaza strip from all essential products that any society needs to survive. The Gazans were starving before OCt 7. For 10 years the Israelis were restricting everyday things from Gaza. until the Gazans were in despair. Before oct. 7
Maybe they should've asked their billionaire Hamas leaders in Qatar for support
This is very untrue. Gaza was a complicated place and there were pockets of incredible wealth and abundance, but not for the average person and certainly not for those who did not work for Hamas.
The period that you say, palestinians were starving, they multiplied like rats.
Rats do not multiply in the absence of food. Neither do humans.
Maybe because Hamas was bombing Israeli civilians for years? And building terror tunnels. They should just allow it? Go get your facts checked.
Douglas Murray wrote a book about it in 2017.
Interesting conversion. Although Tom seems off his game.....not once did he mention his billion dollar company.
Take a look at a Gabor Matte video about this , he says some of the same things , he is a Jewish American therapist who has friend that are Jewish and Palestinian
He brings an accurate and non bias perspective and goes into the history of the region to give good perspective into why this is happening.
Also the United States is already building a sea port in Gaza as we speak - to provide a port for oil production- there are already mining oil in the Gaza region .
The canal which will provide billions of dollars to Isreal runs through Gaza
So there are 2 huge reasons for this war
The ethnic and religious conflict has always been there and now it’s being exploited
@@taonow369 he’s only born Jewish, but never identifies as a Jewish man. He’s mentally ill and very controversial.
@@taonow369 Mat Gabor is only born Jewish, but never identifies as a Jewish man. He’s mentally ill and has always been very controversial due to his illness.
There are so many wonderful things about this country and the world. It would be great to just see you mix the stories up sometimes. The Doom And Gloom is just not a fair representation of how things really are. Thanks, but we go to have a mix of reality.
Tom deletes comments he disagrees with. Tom is pro-censorship. I'm done with Tom. 2 things I can't abide: anti-free speech, & hypocrisy. Unsubscribed. I can't help but notice this video is ALREADY getting ratio'd lol. You can delete all the comments you like, Tom, but you can't prevent people from ratio'ing your videos...
Totally true! You hit it on the head! Tom could have brought a third person to represent Israel to have a debate.
Not enough pro Israel commentary in the legacy media sources for you shill?
Bot farm is working overtime today. Hahaha!
@@JaredHippensteel..yeah, ppl who disagree with you are bots
He seems like the sensitive type. Don't watch for him. Just like seeing what his guests say sometimes.
Hope he mention the lavaiaton gas feeld discoverd under gaza region and more countries
I wish Americans an peoples of Europe thought more like the Jews of Israel. We are just letting ourselves be replaced and our culture evaporate
Did they really put pork commercial into middle eastern talk
Question to all. The future one big New Irsrael where there are no fence and walls between gaza and westbank and in a long term peace between all the different groups? I know sounds crazy but in a long term the only solution? What do you think? Better ideas?
Did you think ...that the arab are wrong ...
So. Much. B.S.
what is he lying about ?
tell you what tom, people came here to listen your guest, not you
It's been like this for the past 5 years. Tom needs to exudes his ego in every talks.
This dude is a double talk liar.
He's telling the truth but I don't blame you for saying that through your shame.
Europeans took over America because they had a different eco-society. Originally land was the core in agri-society, Then capital, jobs and business in the industrial society. Today we live in tech society. Land has no value. You can live on land but you can’t make a living. That’s crucial.
Less than 1 in a million people in the modern economy makes their lively hood from land.
Many live from industry.
Most live from tech.
Palestinians live off land. They just can’t compete. They are not competitive and thus victims.
First I will say what I am not:
I am not Israeli, I am not Jewish (ethnically or religiously), I am not Arab, not Muslim, and I certainly am not in the Woke camp.
I am also much more sympathetic to the Israeli side.
And, although I typically find the pro-Palestine side of debaters and apologists disingenuous and insencere, there are two guys I like. One is Omar, and the other is Marc Lamont Hill. Though I don't agree with them almost on most their points, I believe they are sincere and honest when it comes to their defense of the Paleatinian side.
Way to make it all about you.
HEY - DIRT BAGS,. Why the crazy ,., abusive ,, inclusive music! NUTS!
At least it's inclusive?
Why are you having this liar on
Why don’t you show an objective analysis of what he said that is a lie?
@@shmo982 How reality works, is that if he makes a claim he needs to back it with evidence. Not up to me to disprove every garbage he throws out there
Tom is brave
Propaganda! Disgusting!
Tom Thank you for sharing this
Truth needs to be heard 👍🏻
Check Nelson Mandela connection with Mossad, mby you might change your mind, mby the octopus is bigger than you thought. Deep respect, and admires to what you do.
Respect..
There is a way in Nature .....
this guest is a wacko, far from reality
You have yet to fix your mike.