Ultra Marathon Training: a Base Building MUST DO

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  • @user-ej7hw3ob6x
    @user-ej7hw3ob6x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thankyou … just found you out here…. 58 yrs old and signed up for my 1st Ultra 50k … love the long peaceful quiet runs… planning on putting some of this speed work in …. Again txs

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excellent. Lots here on the channel to dive into. And keep us posted on your 50k! Run strong.

  • @trainwellracewell
    @trainwellracewell ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The best part of a nice climb is the views we’re rewarded with

  • @12jacobmar
    @12jacobmar ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I completed my first half marathon and now im hooked! Im looking i to take my body farther and faster in the coming years.

    • @johnnykilo4967
      @johnnykilo4967 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s how it all started for me a couple years ago 👌🏻

  • @andersoncynthia45
    @andersoncynthia45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I am a newbie from road to trail and I am getting slower and it is making me insane! But I can now go farther. I just come across you and so thankful I did! Thank you for your videos! Going to watch more and figure out what I am doing wrong.

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Keep it simple and just be sure to keep some flat and fast running into your regime.

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable ปีที่แล้ว

      Wim Hof method

  • @homonym7638
    @homonym7638 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Maaaan, it's so, so refreshing to watch a video (of any kind) where the intention is truly in helping the community rather than the individual who put it together. It helps me know I can trust that source and knowledge, and look forward to sharing that with others too. Thanks Eric, you're a star.

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this made my day...thanks back at ya!

  • @wadeliljenquist917
    @wadeliljenquist917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your wisdom. I shared this with my friend and sister. I’m excited to apply this

  • @djunamartinez6462
    @djunamartinez6462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have never broken through until watching your videos. They are so motivating and i finally have proven to myself what i am capable of because i watched this. Thank you!!!!!

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, thanks for this great message and glad they are helping. Finishing up the next book right now and then in to more videos. Thanks for watching.

  • @gilsonpsvita8446
    @gilsonpsvita8446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done - thanks

  • @CoolInOlympia
    @CoolInOlympia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really helpful info! Thanks!

  • @aliciavalentyn5889
    @aliciavalentyn5889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great examples and explanation of endurance and strength. Building gears ⚙️ is so important 🏃‍♀️Thank you

  • @aliceyyy
    @aliceyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super useful thank you for your video!

  • @chinothedreamgiver1629
    @chinothedreamgiver1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff.. dumbing it down for people like me 👍🏼

  • @TheCikpiah
    @TheCikpiah ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome.. thank you with Love from Malaysia

  • @colors4092
    @colors4092 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much dear Sir ❤️

  • @russamehta
    @russamehta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Makes so much common sense

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, pretty basic and fundamental, but many times missed with endurance athletes. Thanks for watching.

  • @silvia550711
    @silvia550711 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the great video.

  • @robertedwards4401
    @robertedwards4401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video thank you

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent glad you liked it and thanks for stopping by to watch. Keep 🏃🏻‍♂️🏔💪

  • @harryv6752
    @harryv6752 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a beautiful and gnarly trail. 🤘

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@harryv6752 thanks for all your views and glad you enjoy. Keep going and look for new videos later this summer and fall.

    • @harryv6752
      @harryv6752 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome. And thank you, for the great content and info, and for imparting your knowledge and wisdom on the art of running to the rest of us, especially to folks like me who are really just stating out on our running journey. Your content has been invaluable to me in learning how to train for running, how to run, how to run properly with minimal to no injury, and how to get better and push further. I'm definitely looking forward to your future content while also going thru your past and current content.
      Keep on rockin'! 🤘

  • @keithkilgorejr5100
    @keithkilgorejr5100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bruh you just literally explained this the best I HAVE EVER HEARD!!!!

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching. Stay tuned, lots to come.

  • @paultellier2147
    @paultellier2147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really intrigued by your comment that we need many gears for ultra. I’ve been running trails for a couple decades, and really only had two gears. Walk or Run (and it’s a low and slow run pace). I’ve been following the Relentless Forward Progress training plans as well and they seem to work okay, but I think I’ll incorporate the development of some other gears, like you suggest. Thanks for the content!

  • @nadineoglesby900
    @nadineoglesby900 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what, I live in the best city for training! Looking for a good coach, manifesting. Thanks for the supplemental knowledge.

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know of a really good one:
      www.ericorton.com/page/coaching

  • @oggonzalezadventures2009
    @oggonzalezadventures2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    New to this channel, where or what should i be reading to understand the 8 zones?

  • @OlgasBritishFells
    @OlgasBritishFells 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So beautiful!

  • @markthomasson5077
    @markthomasson5077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice music

  • @doogles610
    @doogles610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I had hills to climb. I have to use an incline treadmill, and stairs as alternative. Good advice though

  • @aaronbouman3673
    @aaronbouman3673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Eric what are your thoughts on resistance training as it applies to running?
    Thanks for the content.

  • @WayneR.1956
    @WayneR.1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always enjoy and learn from your videos. Thank you for taking the time to spread the word. I have a question about using reserve heart rate zones. I have a fairly low RHR, and using reserve adds another 15+ bpm. When doing an easy run, for example, that puts me well into the traditional zone 3 rather than zone 2 (using the 5 zones split). I don't want to be in that "dreaded Zone 3 Hole"! Thoughts? Thanks again!

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use 8 HR zones so probably cant speak to the "traditional" zone 3. But I know what you are asking and think staying away from then dreaded zone 3 is BS in a lot of cases, especially when it comes to the specific training phase of the year and then climbing like I mention here. I think the key is to understand what your true threshold is and manipulate training to increase aerobic efficiency, strength and speed....and bring it together at the end based on race style and distance.

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Zone 3" is a very important energy system for ultra runners because for a lot of race distances and terrain, it is race effort, so it cant be ignored. But I do think it should be used strategically, with purpose.

    • @WayneR.1956
      @WayneR.1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BornToRunCoach Thank you for your thoughts ...wait .. 8 zones? Your book lists 7 ... okay, I've zoned out on zones. Time to go for a run and NOT look at my watch! : ) I appreciate your time...

  • @Greenshorts420
    @Greenshorts420 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So pweety out there

  • @rushodai929
    @rushodai929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I choose moderate hills or steep hills for hill repeats? Also am I looking for smooth terrain or should I do the hill repeats on the same technical hills I’ll be racing?

  • @fritzjrpreimess1973
    @fritzjrpreimess1973 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (LIKE) Build new strong muscle 1st then hit the same sort system but at a zone 2 area. I wonder what his trail, mountain trail & road ratio is.

  • @jonathanelambo26
    @jonathanelambo26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the title of that song playing in the background?

  • @jsacodes916
    @jsacodes916 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you pay any attention to your HR when doing these "easy" climbs?

  • @bbillyddave
    @bbillyddave ปีที่แล้ว

    After a 34km trail run how many days rest should I take? My garmin watch sais I need 70 hours

  • @bbillyddave
    @bbillyddave ปีที่แล้ว

    When u say 10 x 30 seconds is that 10 mins ? By 30 seconds rest? Thanks

  • @johnscott1183
    @johnscott1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always Eric. I have a quick question. After recovering from an injury is it sensible or advisable to do more than 1 hill session a week to help build strength?

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not knowing the injury, I would definitely ease into things. Maybe do 3-4 weeks of easy endurance building runs first to get your body consistent and then infuse some hill workouts.

    • @johnscott1183
      @johnscott1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BornToRunCoach cheers mate. I’m usually quite stubborn and would normally jump right back into it. It was a strained joint in my lower lumbar which progressed into a pinched nerve. Hopefully starting to get to the end of it.

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable ปีที่แล้ว

      I try to climb hills every day.
      Even recovery runs.
      Climbing up 1500ft when you’re recovering.
      That. Improves your climbing.

  • @Hillrunner50
    @Hillrunner50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your last two videos have been enlightening. Though I successfully completed my 50 and 100 mi races this year, I found that I trained too slow and thus ran too slow. Now I’m 8 weeks post 100 and feel recovered, but I won’t start training for 2022 goals until Jan. Do you advocate that I still include some shorter hard training, like 30 sec hill repeats, while I’m just chilling out from high miles for a few months?

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you could start doing some shorter hills now. 8 weeks is good recovery and this new approach might give you some enthusiasm of something different and new to focus on right now. I would also start doing some of the drills, see link in description, to help with all things strength leading into Jan.

    • @Hillrunner50
      @Hillrunner50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BornToRunCoach You rock Eric. Thank you. And I just posted one of your IT band videos on the Maffetone group page the other day for someone who is struggling with it. Your videos are gold.

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hillrunner50 awesome. Should you send my NO MAF video to them also?? Ha😉

    • @Hillrunner50
      @Hillrunner50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You know, I REALLY appreciated that video. It made me think about the 180-age number a lot and how for many people it may be too low (for me it’s actually a bit high for day to day…I train under on easy days). So when people post about struggling with the number I steer them toward considering doing a field test to determine max heart rate and establish training zones. For many people I think that’s a much better approach. So in a way….yes 😎

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable ปีที่แล้ว

      8 weeks is already too much ‘recovery’
      Your body is tougher don’t limit yourself.
      Not running for months-that’s why you bonked

  • @det5150
    @det5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    eric ran double the distance to get the shots hahaha nice video

    • @candacemoon9671
      @candacemoon9671 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Videographers don't get enough credit!

  • @jim4268
    @jim4268 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's Coyote warning sign in a small part of the area I run in, around dusk 6amish. I hear them make noises sometimes, should I be worried?

  • @standcontractdelta8120
    @standcontractdelta8120 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why separate strength and endurance ?

  • @davebrown1100
    @davebrown1100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zone 6? I only use 5 zones

  • @sem2820
    @sem2820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏻

  • @robertburpee9473
    @robertburpee9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always I love the content, learning's and the message. I have a question that is a little off the topic of this episode, hope you don't mind.
    I have not run for just over 2 weeks as I fell of the kitchen bench while painting. A drop sheet I had over the counter and sink to protect it from paint drips caused me to loose my footing when I stepped on the edge of the stainless steel sink. I fell landing not on my back or my hip but on a 45 deg collecting the ladder next to it on the way down. I have not broken anything just grazed my side and have a bruised left glute. For the first few days after I could not lay on that side and had pain when walking on any incline, I'm well on the improve now but I do get stiff in the left glute and hamstring if I sit for too long. My question, finally your saying Lol, I was wondering (no worrying) how long does it take before you start to loose fitness, I always thought it was about 2 weeks but I've read that it takes between 21-28 days depending on your fitness level and age and I'd be grateful for your thoughts. I am assessing how I feel everyday but I'll probably take another 5-7 days off before I start running again.
    Thanks again for everything

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My answer would be that it really doesnt matter, as you should do what you need to to recover. And then get back at it. Once you get consistent again it will be like it never happened. See it as an opportunity to come back stronger and take your fitness to another level.

    • @robertburpee9473
      @robertburpee9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Eric
      Did you hear that Tommy Rivers Puzey is toeing the line at the NCY marathon this weekend. Now these a glimpse at out true potential.
      Run Strong.

    • @robertburpee9473
      @robertburpee9473 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been using this time to hone my visualisation skills. Everyday at the time I would normally be running I calm my mind & visualise myself out on a run being as detailed as I can. Each day I’ve tried to add a bit more detail & focus & I’m finding that my mind is wandering less and less.
      🏃‍♂️💪

  • @nohirn
    @nohirn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are those evil Eye glasses with adapter corrective glasses in it? Just wodering, cause they dont look that stupid like i thought. I might switch from clipin to those ...

  • @DadBodRunning
    @DadBodRunning 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where does weight lifting play a role in this?

  • @polski1986
    @polski1986 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Intro is 1:50 ....

  • @michael7324
    @michael7324 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea, that me. One gear guy. Slow....

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rev up that engine and do all the things you don't do for the next few weeks and see what happens.

  • @newmanamuki613
    @newmanamuki613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice info but too much talking without actual practical techniques. This is not helpful at all!

    • @BornToRunCoach
      @BornToRunCoach  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Now you know not to waste your time with my other videos.

    • @paulbogle8161
      @paulbogle8161 ปีที่แล้ว

      Left foot, right foot, repeat