I'm glad you gave at least a passing mention to Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry, who wrote quite a few of the girl-group era's greatest records, including "Be My Baby," "Chapel Of Love," "Maybe I Know" and so many others. (Greenwich and Barry, who like Goffin and King were married for a few years, also had several hits as the Raindrops, notably "The Kind Of Boy You Can't Forget" and "What A Guy.")
As a semi top 40 geek with several books videos and small 45 record collection HIGHLY IMPRESSIVE, well researched and accurate presentation delivered here.
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Are you planning some content regarding Top40radio, session musicians, and the industries that rock music inspired, teen magazines, the shift in advertising to the youth culture etc. Rock music is much a reflection of our social barometer, the first to break the racial barrier. Are you aware of the 1959 dj convention in Miami and the drastic effect of it on Payola? So much to cover..I could ramble on and on....
As somebody who has studied the British invasion though the sixties into the early seventies the formula was quite identical. Looking at the state of the industry today, it really has come full circle. I think between these periods we had the era of the true musician, those who could write and perform their own material, and there was diversity in the art. Truthfully, that is the era I preferred. But I found it interesting that you pointed out that the state of music today is not unique. As an aside, when I was a high school senior I interned at a local radio station. I would find it interesting to hear the history of radio, of the rise of the disc jockey, music programming, and the payola scandal that I am sure many are not familiar with. And lastly, how radio pays royalties to the artists. Still, a fascinating channel all the same.
Thanks for watching! The British Invasion is super interesting in and of itself, and there’s definitely overlap between the two. The history of radio and payola is also very intriguing. I’m hoping to cover that at some point as well!
Thank you so much for this excellent educational and entertaining production. I'm learning more how the commercial music industry contributed through Phil Spector to paradoxically placing the Righteous Brothers to Number One with You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin but putting Bobby Hatfield, who is the favorite singer of mine and many, second behind Bill Medley. Many of us enjoy The Moonglow Years more with the music, their sharing solos, and with Bobby Hatfield soaring. I will add that this hurts many of us, and it did to Bobby Hatfield and his career too. Unchained Melody helped balance the imbalance 25 years later. Thank you again.
Great content, enunciation and inflection in your voice. A pleasure to listen to, keep up the good job - and don't be afraid to jump in front of the camera on occasion 😀
Thanks so much, great job I'd love to see anything more on the brill building. I love that music and unfortunately it doesn't seem like there are many good videos on it. Also Motown is another favorite and with Hitsville USA seems like there are some parallels👍🏾
15 to 20 years ago ......I had the privilege of handling the contents of Don kirshners brill building office furnishings... furniture , contracts in Gaylords..9 of them if I remember correctly.. and his original billboard with slide slats .. calendar gjç
@@MusicTheoriesChannel If you do an update to this video, please add the name of Brill Building singer/songwiter Rose Marie McCoy. She was one of the Brill Building's TOP singer/songwiters. She was a very smart woman who owned and kept her own publishing to all her songs and was very successful in the mid to late 50's. Very unusual for a woman to do this during this time (let alone a black woman) and sat in on meetings where she was the only woman there. She would make an excellent subject for a video by herself. Please consider doing a video on Rose Marie McCoy.
A BIG mistake on Kirshner's part to sell Aldon music when he did. I'm sure he regretted it. He had a gold mine of songs HE owned the publishing to and had he kept it (and lived) would have been billionaire. He thought that the music was past its prime and no one would be interested in it. Wrong. That music is still being played today (and covered by artist of today). Had he kept the rights he would have been paid millions each year, as many of those songs are classics, written by some of the world's best songwriters.
@@MusicTheoriesChannel That is true. We really do all have to remember that a TON of the greatest and most widely-loved pure pop songs of the era were “manufactured”. Sure, in the actual industry, there were definitely motivations of profit when it came to the music, but at the end of the day, the songs were still artistically amazing songs on their own merits and were created by people who made a living doing what they loved: writing great songs! :)
And, I guess what we really wanted to know was whether you knew it or not. Cause you don't mention the most defining aspect of the story. Why did you fail to mention this important fact? Im Jewish, from a long line of rabbis. And I think you should let people know our people are largely responsible for modern American music. humbly of course.
A very good video with a lot of good information. However, you not only left out a ton of critical information, but failed to indicate the indelible impact of that music that far exceeds anything that exists to date. As you may or may not know many state that the music of the 60s was the best ever. Finally, the songs you highlighted were no where near the major hits of the artists and writers you mentioned.
The bizarre process you give at the beginning is entirely incorrect. Producers don't "come up with tunes", then send them out to songwriters to solicit well...I guess a response? That couldn't be more wrong.
@@MusicTheoriesChannel It works exactly in reverse. The songwriters write the songs then their agents pitch them to producers or the artists looking to acquire songs to record or perform. Yes, producers will occasionally look for songs for the artists they are working for to record, but the idea that they come up with a song idea that they pitch to multiple songwriters at once and the songwriters all scramble to write a song around it is absolutely ridiculous.
Not sure where you’re getting your information, but of course, this process varies depending on genres, labels, locations, etc. For example, the Nashville method is different than the LA method. In Nashville, the song is usually written first and the production is done after. The process I’m describing is the one used mostly for higher profile artists who don’t write their own songs. The songwriting process has changed over the years, but the practice of top-lining is something extremely common within the pop industry. Many producers and songwriters sign deals with labels and make a yearly salary with the expectation that they create as much product as possible. It’s difficult to find proper sources for this particular topic, as most are anecdotal. That said, I am a professional musician in addition to this channel. I know many people who work in the industry and I have studied with many people who do this for a living. Here is another example of someone breaking this down even further: aristake.com/producer-splits/
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I'm glad you gave at least a passing mention to Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry, who wrote quite a few of the girl-group era's greatest records, including "Be My Baby," "Chapel Of Love," "Maybe I Know" and so many others. (Greenwich and Barry, who like Goffin and King were married for a few years, also had several hits as the Raindrops, notably "The Kind Of Boy You Can't Forget" and "What A Guy.")
Yes, they were a huge part of this era!
As a semi top 40 geek with several books videos and small 45 record collection HIGHLY IMPRESSIVE, well researched and accurate presentation delivered here.
Thank you so much! This is one of my favorite topics to cover 😅😅
@@MusicTheoriesChannel Are you planning some content regarding Top40radio, session musicians, and the industries that rock music inspired, teen magazines, the shift in advertising to the youth culture etc. Rock music is much a reflection of our social barometer, the first to break the racial barrier. Are you aware of the 1959 dj convention in Miami and the drastic effect of it on Payola? So much to cover..I could ramble on and on....
Yes, please make a video breaking down the hit song writing formulas!
That Would Be Good To See.
So cool, good show.
As somebody who has studied the British invasion though the sixties into the early seventies the formula was quite identical. Looking at the state of the industry today, it really has come full circle. I think between these periods we had the era of the true musician, those who could write and perform their own material, and there was diversity in the art. Truthfully, that is the era I preferred. But I found it interesting that you pointed out that the state of music today is not unique.
As an aside, when I was a high school senior I interned at a local radio station. I would find it interesting to hear the history of radio, of the rise of the disc jockey, music programming, and the payola scandal that I am sure many are not familiar with. And lastly, how radio pays royalties to the artists.
Still, a fascinating channel all the same.
Thanks for watching! The British Invasion is super interesting in and of itself, and there’s definitely overlap between the two. The history of radio and payola is also very intriguing. I’m hoping to cover that at some point as well!
Radio does not pay touslyoes. Congress exempted yhem
Thank you so much for this excellent educational and entertaining production. I'm learning more how the commercial music industry contributed through Phil Spector to paradoxically placing the Righteous Brothers to Number One with You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin but putting Bobby Hatfield, who is the favorite singer of mine and many, second behind Bill Medley. Many of us enjoy The Moonglow Years more with the music, their sharing solos, and with Bobby Hatfield soaring. I will add that this hurts many of us, and it did to Bobby Hatfield and his career too. Unchained Melody helped balance the imbalance 25 years later. Thank you again.
Would Like To See A Video About The Monkees And Don Kirshner.
Very cool! It was a different time, to be sure! Great Job! 😊
Great content, enunciation and inflection in your voice. A pleasure to listen to, keep up the good job - and don't be afraid to jump in front of the camera on occasion 😀
someday I will reveal my face! 😜thanks for watching!
Concise, interesting and super-informative. Thanks!
Wow! So amazing!! How I found out about the building I read Neil Sedaka mentioned it so I researched it Thank you for sharing you amazing! Video
Glad you found your way here! Thanks for watching (:
Nicely done. Good visuals.
Thank you!
My 3rd most listened genre this year on Spotify and I had no idea what it is; thank you for the informative video.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Great job on summarizing the history of the Brill Building sound and process.
Thank you!
Thanks so much, great job I'd love to see anything more on the brill building. I love that music and unfortunately it doesn't seem like there are many good videos on it. Also Motown is another favorite and with Hitsville USA seems like there are some parallels👍🏾
Glad you enjoyed it! I will definitely do a follow-up video at some point (:
15 to 20 years ago ......I had the privilege of handling the contents of Don kirshners brill building office furnishings... furniture , contracts in Gaylords..9 of them if I remember correctly.. and his original billboard with slide slats .. calendar gjç
Wow!! How cool is that!!
@@MusicTheoriesChannel If you do an update to this video, please add the name of Brill Building singer/songwiter Rose Marie McCoy. She was one of the Brill Building's TOP singer/songwiters. She was a very smart woman who owned and kept her own publishing to all her songs and was very successful in the mid to late 50's. Very unusual for a woman to do this during this time (let alone a black woman) and sat in on meetings where she was the only woman there. She would make an excellent subject for a video by herself. Please consider doing a video on Rose Marie McCoy.
@@GeeBee909 absolutely! Thank you for suggesting that - I don’t know much about her and I’m looking forward to doing the research!
WOW! That is SO COOL! 👍🎶👍
This is a really great video. I wish you had a better production budget. Just guessing.
Thank you. I also wish I had a production budget XD
A BIG mistake on Kirshner's part to sell Aldon music when he did. I'm sure he regretted it. He had a gold mine of songs HE owned the publishing to and had he kept it (and lived) would have been billionaire. He thought that the music was past its prime and no one would be interested in it. Wrong. That music is still being played today (and covered by artist of today). Had he kept the rights he would have been paid millions each year, as many of those songs are classics, written by some of the world's best songwriters.
It’s true! Hindsight is 20/20 as they say 🤣
I love this style of pop! It’s just a shame that hacks like Charlie Puth are the ones carrying it today lol
Believe it or not, there were people calling the Brill Building folks hacks back in the day too!
@@MusicTheoriesChannel That is true. We really do all have to remember that a TON of the greatest and most widely-loved pure pop songs of the era were “manufactured”. Sure, in the actual industry, there were definitely motivations of profit when it came to the music, but at the end of the day, the songs were still artistically amazing songs on their own merits and were created by people who made a living doing what they loved: writing great songs! :)
Have you noticed how many of these people come from a Jewish background? Its easily 75% of the names.
and what about that?
@@MusicTheoriesChannel It's very fascinating to me. Im asking you what you think.
@@MusicTheoriesChannel you got a 'theory'? lol
@@TheHistoryofPropaganda hm. Not really. Do you?
And, I guess what we really wanted to know was whether you knew it or not. Cause you don't mention the most defining aspect of the story. Why did you fail to mention this important fact? Im Jewish, from a long line of rabbis. And I think you should let people know our people are largely responsible for modern American music. humbly of course.
A very good video with a lot of good information. However, you not only left out a ton of critical information, but failed to indicate the indelible impact of that music that far exceeds anything that exists to date. As you may or may not know many state that the music of the 60s was the best ever. Finally, the songs you highlighted were no where near the major hits of the artists and writers you mentioned.
The bizarre process you give at the beginning is entirely incorrect. Producers don't "come up with tunes", then send them out to songwriters to solicit well...I guess a response? That couldn't be more wrong.
Please explain the process to me
@@MusicTheoriesChannel It works exactly in reverse. The songwriters write the songs then their agents pitch them to producers or the artists looking to acquire songs to record or perform. Yes, producers will occasionally look for songs for the artists they are working for to record, but the idea that they come up with a song idea that they pitch to multiple songwriters at once and the songwriters all scramble to write a song around it is absolutely ridiculous.
Not sure where you’re getting your information, but of course, this process varies depending on genres, labels, locations, etc. For example, the Nashville method is different than the LA method. In Nashville, the song is usually written first and the production is done after. The process I’m describing is the one used mostly for higher profile artists who don’t write their own songs. The songwriting process has changed over the years, but the practice of top-lining is something extremely common within the pop industry. Many producers and songwriters sign deals with labels and make a yearly salary with the expectation that they create as much product as possible.
It’s difficult to find proper sources for this particular topic, as most are anecdotal. That said, I am a professional musician in addition to this channel. I know many people who work in the industry and I have studied with many people who do this for a living. Here is another example of someone breaking this down even further:
aristake.com/producer-splits/