Sadly , nowadays Klein quality isn’t totally consistent . I used to be a dedicated Kleinsman , now it depends on where on the planet the piece was made . All that said , they make some stuff I really love !
I have the milwaukee 6 N 1's and I love them , there my GO-TO mult/install pliers , didn't know milwaukee had upgraded model my latch never catches I've been using them since 2016 (4 years plus some) (commercial and residential)but I do love klein tools but I like specific tools from specific brands.
The spring assist is way better for continuous use. Because it's alot easier on your hand. While the Klein is going to fatigue your hand very quick if you use it too many times in a row.
I got the Milwaukee because I didn’t know Klein made this style tool. I really like the Milwaukee the only thing I didn’t like is that fact it isn’t American made.
I just picked up Knipex's version of this tool, and it is AMAZING. The tolerances alone make me want to frame the thing--it just feels wrong to risk scuffing that piece of art. The very tip is for pulling, and the teeth are aligned to that their peaks meet up with the peaks of the other side, but they don't touch. It helps reduce the damage to any wire or tape you are pulling on. Then there is a circular set of teeth that I think is for helping to hold fasteners in place, or maybe to use your tool to turn the fastener? Not sure. The next set of teeth are aligned so the peak on one side meets the valley on the opposite side, closer together but still not touching. (That's intentional--there is a small detail in the teeth layout to control the gap.) After the teeth you get the same size range for stripping wire as the Milwaukee and Klein, followed by an area just before the pivot for cutting everything up to metal clad cable. That's a mouthful for the cutter, so Knipex made their own version of Milwaukee's curved blades that does a better job starting the cut. The same bolt shears are there along with an internal spring and a latch. It's just a very well-made and thought out tool. My only complaint is Knipex doesn't offer an electrically insulated version for some reason....
I own both. In my service bag I have the Klein because those are my general wire strippers. I bought the Milwaukee one recently and it’s a good all purpose tool to have around the job site if I’m doing a bunch of things. I found twisting wires and cutting with the Milwaukee was easier because of the extra leverage it has. But this is just my take on it. They’re both really good tools.
I’ve had both- my lead tried cutting a metal strap off an emt master bundle the first week I had them- bent up the holes for the 12 gauge stripper and made the pliers bind when operating- returned them and got the kleins instead. The Kleins carry a lot more comfortably in your front pocket because of the small and curved handle, along with the slimmer profile of the handles. Also they don’t need a latch to stay closed because they’re not spring loaded. Overall I like them both but preferred the Kleins for edc pocket carry on the job along with some channel locks and an 11 in 1.
You can put a rubber band around the latch. I like the rubber bands that hold brand new inner tubes together lol. A zip tie positioned just right at the top of a handle can turn ordinary pliers into spring loaded pliers 😂 sort of.
I do not have either; however, I would probably choose the Milwaukee. I very rarely crimp, but I cut frequently. I am not a professional. I would really like to see you test the Knipex. I really appreciate you giving the strengths and weaknesses. I can now make a more informed decision. Thank you.
Knipex are fine and dandy but definitely for more precision work than daily use wearing out. But I do love knipex, but home Depot does free exchanges on all Klein products so I stick with that
I have these Milwaukee pliers and they are perfect if you are in HVAC. I only have to carry one tool instead of three and they do everything I need them to in that field. I think I may switch to the kline though, I've always preferred springless strippers. These also work good to reem out copper if you are in a pinch.
Been using the Kleins since I got them for Christmas doing heavy duty truck electrical repairs. Where have they been all my life? Simply the best stripper and crimper I have ever used. Plus, USA made. What's there not to like!
Milwaukee is definitely my go to although ALL my hand tools are Klein I just love the way the Milwaukee cuts and strips plus the handle fits me perfectly not to mention the price went down on em to around 15$ at my local Home Depot
I have the klein, replaced four tools: side cutters (I carry a hammer), needle nose, crimper and strippers. Makes decent joints, crimp for grounding barrels, nice strippers, makes nice "tink" sound when clipping. Only downside I've found is cutting decor faceplate screws for tile installations. The hinge is too wide and will not cut the screw short enough (to keep the screw from grinding into the tile and pushing the plate away). I may check this Milwaukee out just to see if it will cut that one 6-32nd short enough. The extra leverage from the additional inch of handle couldn't hurt either. I was taught by a crusty old dude who constantly said things like, 'the less sh*t I gotta carry, the better' and 'you should be able to rough an entire house with side-cutters, a screwdriver and drill'. and now I guess Im a less is more kinda guy now too
I personally like my southwire long nose 5 in 1, they cut mc cable very well, the long nose makes it easy to clean out knock out holes in the boxes and it can strip 14, 12 and 10 gauge which is all I see when I’m just roughing in suites and doing corridors. I have used the Kleins before and not a fan, it does all you need it to but doesn’t do any of them well. If I need to strip 16 or 18 gauge I rather use my strippers.
My favorites are southwire too. I have the multi with lineman nose, 10 and 12 romex, 10 and 12 single, cutter, bolt cutters and looper. They’re so awesome. No clamping down and jerking to get the insulation off. Close them, twist a little and the insulation slides off nice and smooth. Perfectly machined so they get all the way through the insulation without biting into the solid wire. None of my other strippers are that smooth and I’ve tried them all. All of them require that awkward tug and the insulation snaps and you hit something with the pliers when it suddenly lets go.
@4:59 you can turn the plier for the latch laying on bottom side, with the gravity pull down the latch then it will not re-lock again. But i think your thumb pushed the latch lock.
I got both of those and both are great. Personally overall I like Klein hand tools above all. But when it comes to power tools which Klein doesn’t really make other than a special edition impact that was basically a Dewalt with a makeover. Milwaukee is the best in my opinion.
Great comparison! Really like that Klein is made in USA but I could live with Milwaukee being made in Taiwan due to the better cutters. If Milwaukee said made in China they would definitely be a no-go.
@@SparkyChannel Totally. In many ways. A decently made Taiwan tool is typically going to be well made, with high quality materials. I may not be up to date, but my take on this is that I generally assume a Taiwan-made tool is a good tool unless proven to be bad, and a Chinese tool is not a good tool unless proven to be good. Excellent vid, btw. I'd be interested in a comparison of the older 6-in-1 tool vs the new 7-in-1 Milwaukee pliers! As far as the Klein vs the old Milwaukee, I have both in my bag...need to check out the new 7-in-1.
@@johnnewell5025 Hi John! Yes, I think that people don't realize the great differences between China and Taiwan. Excellent idea on the comparisons, thanks!
@@SparkyChannel I think it'd be a popular vid. HD has got them next to each other now but the old 6-in-1 is $20 vs $30 for the 7-in-1. I think even guys with a bag full of Klein tools looks at these and thinks about buying one, but now with the two of them side by side the question is whether the updates are worth paying half again more for, or whether the 7-in-1 is worth buying at all if you have the 6-in-1.
Great video, i have both, prefer the ergonomics of the Klein, however Milwaukee have better cutters . Cant go wrong with either set Made in USA Klein is my preference.
I'd be interested to see how the "shears" cutters on the Milwaukees hold up with multiple cuts. In any case, I'll take the Klein tool (Made In U.S.A.) over the Milwaukees every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I'll take the USA made Kleins all day long. I knew as soon as I looked at the crimpers that the Klein was better at crimping because of the smaller denting nub. If I'm cutting something heavy I just grab my Klein lineman pliers. I have some blue handled vintage ones that say (M Klein and Sons) stamped into them. I have regular Klein wire strippers that work great. I did recently get a pair of Husky brand all purpose that look like the ones in this video on sale for about 8 bucks and they are surprisingly good quality. If I'm getting Chinesium then I don't want to pay 30 bucks for them. They are $17 at home depot now and I can recommend them to anyone on a budget. I normally stick with Klein but I'm pretty happy with these and I still have the Klein in my bag if they fail. They strip and cut wire just fine and the reamers are excellent. I may eventually get the Klein version and relegate the Husky ones for home use.
I have the Milwaukee 6in1 (not this 7in1 in video) and the klein in this video and I prefer the klein. The Milwaukee has much better cutters and bolt cutters but the klein is so much better at stripping wires which is what I use it for the most.
I noticed on the second strip, you bumped the latch with your thumb as you squeezed. simple solution is to roll the tool over in your hand, as you did on the #14 solid. in the final analysis, I like the curved handle, but I have it on the non crimping Klein strippers, right now, which have a spring and latch, as well as bypass cutters. crimping is much less relevant to me since I do very few crimps, and I do those with my lineman's pliers. I prefer to make hooks with the jaws, so Klein loses points on that - the jaws are too thick to make a proper diameter hook. heavy wire cutting is also irrelevant, since I rarely cut anything bigger than a single conductor with my strippers. final analysis for me is I'm not going to throw away a tool I get along okay with because I might like another one better.
Ben electrician 37 years I've been using Klein knitpicks is very good also I have Milwaukee from the 1970s from my father who passed away they make good stuff also back in the seventies it was made in the USA also when you were stripping the wire you supposed to turn it 180 degrees that will make it easier as you're cutting the insulation all the way around
Something that works just as well and is better on your wrists in the long run would be start stripping the insulation with the stripper at an angle then rotate it so it becomes perpendicular to the wire, this causes the cut insulation to push away from the rest of it and then pulls off super easy. You rotate your wrists less often which means you are less likely to build CPS or other issues caused by repetitive tasks.
I actually have a Southwire stripper I like a lot. They’re combo pliers. Lineman’s end, Romex 14 and 12 stripper. Single 10 and 12 stripper. Cutter, Bolt cutters, looper. Smooth as silk. Close on the wire, turn 1/8 and the insulation slides off. Perfectly machines so it doesn’t hang on the wire or strip too little insulation.
I prefer Milwaukee for the increased leverage and shear type cutter, love the spring, when doing several cuts/strips a day on industrial machines you notice the difference, springless will leave your hand really tired, especially when chopping thick cables
I own both and I can tell you the Kleins lost it for me when the handle grips came off the first day, the handle is curved so good luck gluing it this shouldn’t happen to almost 50 dollar wire strippers, buy the Milwaukee for 19 bucks with the Black Friday deals
Anyone considering either of theese please read this it will save you wasting your money. I've had theese Milwaukee pliers since they were announced at this years NPS. If you notice both pliers when stripping required alot of pulling. The handles on the Klein's are not good for splicing as they are not equal handles. After a few weeks the strippers on the Milwaukee's got more and more difficult to use. Do your self a favor and get the new Knipex Forged Wire Strippers. They are very similar to theese but much better quality. They strip with absolutely zero effort.
Well I got the Milwaukee 48-22-3079 wire cutters and they haven't failed me after all these years but damn I really want those Knipex wire cutters. Thanks for the reminder.
@@SparkyChannel I would love to see a video comparison with the knipex. I have been kind of curious about them myself and heard nothing but great things about them.
@@SparkyChannel I guess the milwaukee. I like the curved handles for wire stripping, but I feel like using them to splice would be awkward so I rather a straight handle for a combination plier. I saw an ideal combination plier like the klein that looked nice and I almost picked it up but figured that curved handle kills it for using to splice could be just me and what I'm use to.
After using the previous generation of the Milwaukee, which has been a great tool for the past 1year+, I like the upgrades they have made with the new-gen. Wider head, crimp tool, looks lighter and is longer helping leverage for harder cuts. I think the spring is a no brainer, literally cuts the amount of effort required to use the tool and increases efficiency. If you just flip the tool around so you push the latch down with your thumb to unlock it you can never accidentally latch the pilers closed. IMO the latch is necessary to keep the pliers closed in your trouser pouch or bag to reduce the amount of space they take up. The cutters on my current set have seen better days (Cutting things I shouldn't with them lol) and the 1.5mm, 2.5mm strippers have become dull I'll be upgrading to this set. The price point is a bonus as well, I paid £22 for my current set and I can get the new set for the same price.
The reason I want to upgrade is the larger head, so I can twist wires. But I sense that the Milwaukee is not as easy to twist wires. What has been your experience?
@@rogerholland98 Yes, it's differently not the easiest to twist wires together but it's great for reaching hard to get to places so it has pros and cons. I've ordered the new one and I'm going to pick them up tomorrow. Hopefully, the wider head on the new set fixes this issue👍🏾.
I said the same thing when I saw the latch flip down. Flip it over and gravity solves that problem. I had to buy a cheap pair that were spring loaded and didn't have a latch because I forgot my good pair at home and that was all the hardware store had where I was working. I haven't used them since because they take up too much room in my bags
I like my Milwaukee strippers for stripping wires, linesman pliers by Klein for twisting solid wires together and Klein reamer for reaming out conduit. Thanks for the review Sparky!
klein makes them with spring, without spring, with spring and latch and with spring and without latch. love the kleins, have like 8 pairs, but im gonna order the milwaukee ones just to see what they got.
Does anyone actually ever use the "looper" ? That latch is no issue once you get used to it. Squeezing just right will unlatch it and I almost don't even notice I do it now
Anybody notice how much faster the Klein's were than the Milwaukee at stripping. I could also point out that the Klein's anvil style cutting edge will likely never dull out or damage like the shear style will. I'm l not sure I want either one. But I'd pick the Klein. I just hate strippers that have the holes so far from the grip. Lightweight Ideal T Strippers, or the little yellow grip handle Klein's for me.
I got the Milwaukee first. Switched to the Klein’s after the edge of the Milwaukee cutter rolled cutting a spring that the Klein’s had no problem with . Basically Milwaukee’s cutter became useless afterwatds
Good vid....you managed to get a tired spark, at the end of his day, to get encapsulated in watching this, even though Im unlikely to ever use that tool as I have my preferences. 😎👍strangely enjoyable to watch.
I LOVE latches if done right. been using the Milwaukees for some time. I WISH every plier had sprung opening, an integrated, unobtrusive Latch, and tether point.
I have that Klein curve stripper. I also have a forged Knipex electrical pliers. I'll take My Knipex every time over Klein. Everything about them is just better... Don't know about the Milwaukee's or whatever you're comparing them to but I don't think I need to go any further than Knipex pliers
I have the bypass version of the Klein's and love them. Bought my son the Milwaukee ones. Both are nice but the Klein's just feel better in the hand. The wire sizes on the strippers though are marked much better on the Milwaukee s though.
Your thumb slides down when you begin the stripping motion. That's why the latch catches. My thumb moves less and at the start position my thumb is already touching the other handle. Your thumb slides down to approach the other handle. Maybe my hands are larger.
Exactly. When he complained the second time I backed up the video and noticed his thumb was pushing the clip down. Is it the pliers fault? Perhaps some but I'd say he just needs to train his thumb to not push it down.
I bet the steel quality on the Milwaukee is inferior to the Klein and after a few months they won't still cut that great. After hard use you find out how good something really is. Even the cheap Husky brand cut well while they are new, I have a pair but I know they won't last as long as my Kleins.
You’d be right at least for my experience, I used the milwaukees after they came out for about 3 months and the cutting jaw is either rolled on some parts or dull, same thing for the stripping teeth so switched back to the Klein
I bought the Klein based on your earlier videos. I would like the closing clamp on the M. My Klein's are a different version with a spring to open, a Looper, and a shearing cutter.
I have the Milwaukee, 19.99 on sale at home depot. I don’t do any crimping but the cutters and the strippers are the most important thing for me. I want to see how durable they are in the long run. Love the longer handles for leverage. Klein makes great tools and usa made is a big thing for me. But were not an option where i was at the time. I would but the Milwaukee again.
Milwaukee of cource! I have their 5 in 1 pliers here on Finland and have been waiting 7 in 1 coming on sale. Now the pliers are here. I like the earlier version, so the new ones cant be so bad...
After around a year my handles kept coming off the kleins the Milwaukee pair never have that issue they are cheaper cut way wayyyyy better then the kleins they have a satisfying chomp when they cut through something
Having both I will say, it would have been great if milwaukee kept the same handles that are on their 6 in 1 pliers. I still prefer the milwaukee's, or the heavy duty Klein's with the solid blue handles and sitting removed.
Over the years i created a list of what works best for me. And professionals in my shop -For power tools -impacts, drills, bandsaw 1/2 inch impacts etc *Milwuakee -Best grinders and hammer drills * Dewalt -Best hand tools and screwdrivers * klains and craftsman -bits * Milwaukee, DeWalt, Wera -Knives & blades * DeWalt For working on my car *Milwaukee sockets( and they're square so they don't roll under your car when you drop them 😍. And for impact sockets *craftsman.. I work on diesel trucks. And they work as hard as snap-on and matco and they last for ever
Southwire is pretty good as well. I have one that dose 14/2 and 12/2 romex stripper and strips 12 & 14 solid. I know it's different from what you reviewed but I was impressed with the quality
Both are good - and surprisingly much better than the Knipex combo pliers which aren’t even close to these. But the Knipex linesman pliers are so good that I rarely dig these out.
I'm an HVAC and commercial kitchen tech and while I don't plan on buying either I think I would get the klien ones, I hate spring loaded and the clips.
Something to consider about cutting differences. Bi-path or shear type cutters perform a shearing action in the material. They must be “sharper” or have steeper cutter angles. This improves cutting performance at the risk of easier: rolled, damaged, and misaligned edges. Pinch style cutters have more obtuse angles, that meet and literally pinch the material apart. The edges are less likely to deform, hardened to some degree, and still perform well with small amounts of edge damage. They do take more effort to use, and deform either end of the cut material.
I would not buy either unless that was the only tool. Too bulky to use a strippers, any crimper that you have to put handles over wire are a big no for me.
This is good for a small job when you want to only have to grab a pair of pliers and a knife. Like when you just need to change out an outlet or a switch. Also if you're crawling around in really tight quarters, like an attic with a 5/12 roof or a crawl space. You can stick these pliers and a knife in your back pocket instead of using a tool bag.
Definitely prefer the grip on the Klein, but otherwise, I think the Milwaukee is almost better in every way. And if you don't like the spring or latch, you can theoretically remove them (even if somewhat destructively). Likewise, I think you could get a rotary tool and grind down the crimping tab, though I concede you shouldn't have to do that, and it should probably smaller like the Klein's for more pressure.
I've seen tons of these comparisons on wire cutters/strippers and they always are testing it on very small stranded gauge wires. However the majority of wiring in residential and commercial applications are dealing with 12 and 14 gauge solid wire.
You can always remove the latch and spring if you choose, and I don’t think you should ever use this style of tool to twist wires. Has to be standard lineman’s, but I see the Milwaukee as far superior
Bypass cutter every day. Making sure the latch is down (further from one's thumb) the less likely the latch is to catch accidentally watching your hand motions when using the stripper.
Well, the latch isn't really the problem. It's the method of use. I solely use the older Milwaukee strippers and I have never had the latch move without my intentional use of it. Bill is stripping that small wire like he's trying to fight through arthritis or something.
Bought the Klien two months ago and am going to try to return it to Home Depot. The cutting blade is too short and it is very hard to cut 14/3 and 12/3 romex. The tip doesn't fully close and won't grab small strands. Very disappointed. I'm going to try a Knipex.
@@ItsEdwinG I bought the Knipex and it is better but not perfect. It's easier to find the right slot for stripping wires and does a better job. I'm still getting used to the thumb lock but it doesn't have the problem of accidently opening like the Milwaukee in the video. The curved cable cutting blade does a nice job cutting larger cables but you have to spread the handles farther apart than you do with straight blades. Again, something to get used to. There is a slot in the middle of the tip serrations that works great for grabbing wire for putting a hook in a wire end.
I have the Klien ones. I did not like them. They strip wire very rough, and are not great as a lineman’s. Easier in my opinion to just have a regular strippers and a regular linesman’s
I love the Milwaukees! Great video. I must’ve purchased the left-handed model with the latch on the other side however. Now my rogue thumb doesn’t accidentally push it closed. *wink *
Hey bill, I've been using the milwaukee stripper for a long time the smaller version of the one your using, when stripping wires, after you put wire in tool give the stripper a little up or down motion and the wire jacket comes off easy. Only problem with milwaukee is they dull after awhile.
If I had an engineer friend at Ideal industries I would send them what I liked on the Milwaukee and Klein and see if they could make a pair close to Klein but with the cutter of the Milwaukee. Bypass cutters generally cutter larger items. Notice that the hydraulic powered cutters and ratcheting cutters are bypass. Same thing in pruners. The bigger pruners are bypass Great video.
This video needs an update won’t be Klein too that has the shears cutter it’s the same blue tool but with sheers and a spring no crimper I’d like to see that comparison
I'm old school. I still use wire nuts and I twist my wires together before putting on the wire nut. The noses are too narrow on both tools. I like the klein curved handle. I like the milwaukee spring and bypass cutter. Cutting MC cable is a good way to ruin your cutters. I don't need the crimping feature since I rarely do crimping and I have a dedicated ratcheting tool. I want a tool that can replace strippers and lineman pliers because my pouch has way too many tools. I like latches on spring handles but that milwaukee design is flawed. Both tools are not ready for prime time.
I have several pairs of Klein’s never sorry for money spent also have my dads old lineman pliers over 70 years old still perfect
Milwaukee 9, Klein 11. Thanks!
A 70 year old pliers? Sheesh
Sadly , nowadays Klein quality isn’t totally consistent . I used to be a dedicated Kleinsman , now it depends on where on the planet the piece was made . All that said , they make some stuff I really love !
Kline advertises that everything is made in the UåSA, but I have seen tools from Kline that are made overseas, they should change the claim
I have the milwaukee 6 N 1's and I love them , there my GO-TO mult/install pliers , didn't know milwaukee had upgraded model my latch never catches I've been using them since 2016 (4 years plus some) (commercial and residential)but I do love klein tools but I like specific tools from specific brands.
Sounds great, thanks!
Is it me or does this guy sound just like Scotty Kilmer?
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He does!!!! The electrical version of scotty kilmer!
Without the frantic flapping jazz hands😂
Yes he does
Spring, all day long. Cut and drill off the latch. Thanks for the video!
The spring assist is way better for continuous use. Because it's alot easier on your hand. While the Klein is going to fatigue your hand very quick if you use it too many times in a row.
I got the Milwaukee because I didn’t know Klein made this style tool. I really like the Milwaukee the only thing I didn’t like is that fact it isn’t American made.
They are made in Vietnam 🇻🇳 according to my package
I just picked up Knipex's version of this tool, and it is AMAZING. The tolerances alone make me want to frame the thing--it just feels wrong to risk scuffing that piece of art. The very tip is for pulling, and the teeth are aligned to that their peaks meet up with the peaks of the other side, but they don't touch. It helps reduce the damage to any wire or tape you are pulling on. Then there is a circular set of teeth that I think is for helping to hold fasteners in place, or maybe to use your tool to turn the fastener? Not sure. The next set of teeth are aligned so the peak on one side meets the valley on the opposite side, closer together but still not touching. (That's intentional--there is a small detail in the teeth layout to control the gap.) After the teeth you get the same size range for stripping wire as the Milwaukee and Klein, followed by an area just before the pivot for cutting everything up to metal clad cable. That's a mouthful for the cutter, so Knipex made their own version of Milwaukee's curved blades that does a better job starting the cut. The same bolt shears are there along with an internal spring and a latch. It's just a very well-made and thought out tool. My only complaint is Knipex doesn't offer an electrically insulated version for some reason....
I own both. In my service bag I have the Klein because those are my general wire strippers. I bought the Milwaukee one recently and it’s a good all purpose tool to have around the job site if I’m doing a bunch of things. I found twisting wires and cutting with the Milwaukee was easier because of the extra leverage it has. But this is just my take on it. They’re both really good tools.
I’ve had both- my lead tried cutting a metal strap off an emt master bundle the first week I had them- bent up the holes for the 12 gauge stripper and made the pliers bind when operating- returned them and got the kleins instead. The Kleins carry a lot more comfortably in your front pocket because of the small and curved handle, along with the slimmer profile of the handles. Also they don’t need a latch to stay closed because they’re not spring loaded. Overall I like them both but preferred the Kleins for edc pocket carry on the job along with some channel locks and an 11 in 1.
I've tried both and I like the Milwaukee so much better.
If anyone is curious, you can make the milwaukee an 8 in 1, by removing the spring, and using that area as an insulated crimper. Works fantastic.
I've been using the previous generation of Milwaukee multi-function pliers for a few years now, and they have stood up very well. I love them.
Milwaukee 13, Klein 24. Thanks Mike!
bill on that milwakee you are catching your thumb on the latch flip the pliers upside down
Good tip, thanks. Or just drill out the latch. LOL!
The way his thumb ran past the latch it almost seemed like he was doing it deliberately
@@SparkyChannel , yes, is what I did with my kleins, that had a latch and spring, and love those, had spring and no more latch.
You can put a rubber band around the latch. I like the rubber bands that hold brand new inner tubes together lol. A zip tie positioned just right at the top of a handle can turn ordinary pliers into spring loaded pliers 😂 sort of.
@@SparkyChannel Exactly what I did, one minute after removing the spring 😂
I do not have either; however, I would probably choose the Milwaukee. I very rarely crimp, but I cut frequently. I am not a professional. I would really like to see you test the Knipex. I really appreciate you giving the strengths and weaknesses. I can now make a more informed decision. Thank you.
Knipex are fine and dandy but definitely for more precision work than daily use wearing out. But I do love knipex, but home Depot does free exchanges on all Klein products so I stick with that
I prefer Klein hand tools then any other brands. But I loved milwaukee and Dewalt power tools.
Milwaukee 15, Klein 25. Thanks Aaron!
I like that Klein are made in USA
The latch is there because of the spring for easier storage.
Amazing review! Best I’ve seen on TH-cam, thank you for a very real and honest review
Love my Milwaukee redid abuch of wire in a house and used them more than my Kleins just the power and ease of use is wonderful
I have these Milwaukee pliers and they are perfect if you are in HVAC. I only have to carry one tool instead of three and they do everything I need them to in that field. I think I may switch to the kline though, I've always preferred springless strippers. These also work good to reem out copper if you are in a pinch.
Been using the Kleins since I got them for Christmas doing heavy duty truck electrical repairs. Where have they been all my life? Simply the best stripper and crimper I have ever used. Plus, USA made. What's there not to like!
Milwaukee is definitely my go to although ALL my hand tools are Klein I just love the way the Milwaukee cuts and strips plus the handle fits me perfectly not to mention the price went down on em to around 15$ at my local Home Depot
I have the klein, replaced four tools: side cutters (I carry a hammer), needle nose, crimper and strippers. Makes decent joints, crimp for grounding barrels, nice strippers, makes nice "tink" sound when clipping. Only downside I've found is cutting decor faceplate screws for tile installations. The hinge is too wide and will not cut the screw short enough (to keep the screw from grinding into the tile and pushing the plate away). I may check this Milwaukee out just to see if it will cut that one 6-32nd short enough. The extra leverage from the additional inch of handle couldn't hurt either. I was taught by a crusty old dude who constantly said things like, 'the less sh*t I gotta carry, the better' and 'you should be able to rough an entire house with side-cutters, a screwdriver and drill'. and now I guess Im a less is more kinda guy now too
You need the standard style of strippers the Milwaukees are also to long to shorten screws for backsplash unfortunately
@@AnxOG663 Darn. That's too bad. Thank you for the heads up
@@ajyhimst2782 I was pretty bummed out but I have like 16 pairs 😂 that can cut the screw short enough
I personally like my southwire long nose 5 in 1, they cut mc cable very well, the long nose makes it easy to clean out knock out holes in the boxes and it can strip 14, 12 and 10 gauge which is all I see when I’m just roughing in suites and doing corridors. I have used the Kleins before and not a fan, it does all you need it to but doesn’t do any of them well. If I need to strip 16 or 18 gauge I rather use my strippers.
I love the cutters on those pliers, they're awesome.
My favorites are southwire too. I have the multi with lineman nose, 10 and 12 romex, 10 and 12 single, cutter, bolt cutters and looper. They’re so awesome. No clamping down and jerking to get the insulation off. Close them, twist a little and the insulation slides off nice and smooth. Perfectly machined so they get all the way through the insulation without biting into the solid wire. None of my other strippers are that smooth and I’ve tried them all. All of them require that awkward tug and the insulation snaps and you hit something with the pliers when it suddenly lets go.
@4:59 you can turn the plier for the latch laying on bottom side, with the gravity pull down the latch then it will not re-lock again. But i think your thumb pushed the latch lock.
I got both of those and both are great. Personally overall I like Klein hand tools above all. But when it comes to power tools which Klein doesn’t really make other than a special edition impact that was basically a Dewalt with a makeover. Milwaukee is the best in my opinion.
Milwaukee is known for their power tools but are underated for their hand tools. They make great things all around for the most part.
Thanks!
The Milwaukee 7 in 1 can be used on both hands as it has markings on both sides. The Klein only has markings on one side.
As an HVAC tech those Kleins are the better tool for me.
Great comparison! Really like that Klein is made in USA but I could live with Milwaukee being made in Taiwan due to the better cutters. If Milwaukee said made in China they would definitely be a no-go.
There is a difference between China and Taiwan.
The cutter is better but the tips on the klien are better too grab wire.
@@SparkyChannel Totally. In many ways. A decently made Taiwan tool is typically going to be well made, with high quality materials. I may not be up to date, but my take on this is that I generally assume a Taiwan-made tool is a good tool unless proven to be bad, and a Chinese tool is not a good tool unless proven to be good. Excellent vid, btw. I'd be interested in a comparison of the older 6-in-1 tool vs the new 7-in-1 Milwaukee pliers! As far as the Klein vs the old Milwaukee, I have both in my bag...need to check out the new 7-in-1.
@@johnnewell5025 Hi John! Yes, I think that people don't realize the great differences between China and Taiwan. Excellent idea on the comparisons, thanks!
@@SparkyChannel I think it'd be a popular vid. HD has got them next to each other now but the old 6-in-1 is $20 vs $30 for the 7-in-1. I think even guys with a bag full of Klein tools looks at these and thinks about buying one, but now with the two of them side by side the question is whether the updates are worth paying half again more for, or whether the 7-in-1 is worth buying at all if you have the 6-in-1.
Great video, i have both, prefer the ergonomics of the Klein, however Milwaukee have better cutters .
Cant go wrong with either set Made in USA Klein is my preference.
I'd be interested to see how the "shears" cutters on the Milwaukees hold up with multiple cuts. In any case, I'll take the Klein tool (Made In U.S.A.) over the Milwaukees every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I'll take the USA made Kleins all day long. I knew as soon as I looked at the crimpers that the Klein was better at crimping because of the smaller denting nub. If I'm cutting something heavy I just grab my Klein lineman pliers. I have some blue handled vintage ones that say (M Klein and Sons) stamped into them. I have regular Klein wire strippers that work great.
I did recently get a pair of Husky brand all purpose that look like the ones in this video on sale for about 8 bucks and they are surprisingly good quality. If I'm getting Chinesium then I don't want to pay 30 bucks for them. They are $17 at home depot now and I can recommend them to anyone on a budget. I normally stick with Klein but I'm pretty happy with these and I still have the Klein in my bag if they fail. They strip and cut wire just fine and the reamers are excellent. I may eventually get the Klein version and relegate the Husky ones for home use.
I have the Milwaukee 6in1 (not this 7in1 in video) and the klein in this video and I prefer the klein. The Milwaukee has much better cutters and bolt cutters but the klein is so much better at stripping wires which is what I use it for the most.
Get the new Knipex strippers up to 20 AWG. No crimper but the best.
Thanks!
I noticed on the second strip, you bumped the latch with your thumb as you squeezed. simple solution is to roll the tool over in your hand, as you did on the #14 solid.
in the final analysis, I like the curved handle, but I have it on the non crimping Klein strippers, right now, which have a spring and latch, as well as bypass cutters. crimping is much less relevant to me since I do very few crimps, and I do those with my lineman's pliers. I prefer to make hooks with the jaws, so Klein loses points on that - the jaws are too thick to make a proper diameter hook. heavy wire cutting is also irrelevant, since I rarely cut anything bigger than a single conductor with my strippers.
final analysis for me is I'm not going to throw away a tool I get along okay with because I might like another one better.
Yes, I could see that on the replay. I prefer needle nose type strippers as well.
Ii have the Milwaukees and really like them. The latch is stiff and I have no issues with it closing accidently
Ben electrician 37 years I've been using Klein knitpicks is very good also I have Milwaukee from the 1970s from my father who passed away they make good stuff also back in the seventies it was made in the USA also when you were stripping the wire you supposed to turn it 180 degrees that will make it easier as you're cutting the insulation all the way around
Something that works just as well and is better on your wrists in the long run would be start stripping the insulation with the stripper at an angle then rotate it so it becomes perpendicular to the wire, this causes the cut insulation to push away from the rest of it and then pulls off super easy.
You rotate your wrists less often which means you are less likely to build CPS or other issues caused by repetitive tasks.
What are knitpicks?
Great vid. Because of that spring Milwaukee wins hands down. No spring no sale. Thanks.
I hate the spring first thing I do is rip them out
@@PeterTrimboli that's why I don't mind a tool coming with a spring or latch; just take 'em out and put 'em in the spring drawer :-)
I cut off the spring and drill out the locks. I hate when they spring open in my pocket and I spend 5 minutes trying to fish it out
I hate the latch and I'll decide on the spring on a tool by tool basis. Good comments!
Milwaukee 1, Klein 0.
I saw your thumb pushing the latch down.
I think I’d go with the Klein over this version of Milwaukee.
Good comparison Sparky!
Milwaukee 22, Klein 29. Thanks Bryan!
I actually have a Southwire stripper I like a lot. They’re combo pliers. Lineman’s end, Romex 14 and 12 stripper. Single 10 and 12 stripper. Cutter, Bolt cutters, looper. Smooth as silk. Close on the wire, turn 1/8 and the insulation slides off. Perfectly machines so it doesn’t hang on the wire or strip too little insulation.
Excellent! Thanks Jared!
I prefer Milwaukee for the increased leverage and shear type cutter, love the spring, when doing several cuts/strips a day on industrial machines you notice the difference, springless will leave your hand really tired, especially when chopping thick cables
I need to see the hammer test
I own both and I can tell you the Kleins lost it for me when the handle grips came off the first day, the handle is curved so good luck gluing it this shouldn’t happen to almost 50 dollar wire strippers, buy the Milwaukee for 19 bucks with the Black Friday deals
Anyone considering either of theese please read this it will save you wasting your money. I've had theese Milwaukee pliers since they were announced at this years NPS. If you notice both pliers when stripping required alot of pulling. The handles on the Klein's are not good for splicing as they are not equal handles. After a few weeks the strippers on the Milwaukee's got more and more difficult to use. Do your self a favor and get the new Knipex Forged Wire Strippers. They are very similar to theese but much better quality. They strip with absolutely zero effort.
I have to admit, the Milwaukee's feel large and cumbersome when stripping the small gauge wires. I'll have to try the Knipex.
Well I got the Milwaukee 48-22-3079 wire cutters and they haven't failed me after all these years but damn I really want those Knipex wire cutters. Thanks for the reminder.
@@SparkyChannel I would love to see a video comparison with the knipex. I have been kind of curious about them myself and heard nothing but great things about them.
@@robfahey1349 What would you like to see the Knipex compared to?
@@SparkyChannel I guess the milwaukee. I like the curved handles for wire stripping, but I feel like using them to splice would be awkward so I rather a straight handle for a combination plier. I saw an ideal combination plier like the klein that looked nice and I almost picked it up but figured that curved handle kills it for using to splice could be just me and what I'm use to.
After using the previous generation of the Milwaukee, which has been a great tool for the past 1year+, I like the upgrades they have made with the new-gen. Wider head, crimp tool, looks lighter and is longer helping leverage for harder cuts. I think the spring is a no brainer, literally cuts the amount of effort required to use the tool and increases efficiency. If you just flip the tool around so you push the latch down with your thumb to unlock it you can never accidentally latch the pilers closed. IMO the latch is necessary to keep the pliers closed in your trouser pouch or bag to reduce the amount of space they take up. The cutters on my current set have seen better days (Cutting things I shouldn't with them lol) and the 1.5mm, 2.5mm strippers have become dull I'll be upgrading to this set. The price point is a bonus as well, I paid £22 for my current set and I can get the new set for the same price.
The reason I want to upgrade is the larger head, so I can twist wires. But I sense that the Milwaukee is not as easy to twist wires. What has been your experience?
@@rogerholland98 Yes, it's differently not the easiest to twist wires together but it's great for reaching hard to get to places so it has pros and cons. I've ordered the new one and I'm going to pick them up tomorrow. Hopefully, the wider head on the new set fixes this issue👍🏾.
I said the same thing when I saw the latch flip down. Flip it over and gravity solves that problem. I had to buy a cheap pair that were spring loaded and didn't have a latch because I forgot my good pair at home and that was all the hardware store had where I was working. I haven't used them since because they take up too much room in my bags
I like my Milwaukee strippers for stripping wires, linesman pliers by Klein for twisting solid wires together and Klein reamer for reaming out conduit. Thanks for the review Sparky!
why would you twist solid wires together ?
klein makes them with spring, without spring, with spring and latch and with spring and without latch. love the kleins, have like 8 pairs, but im gonna order the milwaukee ones just to see what they got.
Does anyone actually ever use the "looper" ? That latch is no issue once you get used to it. Squeezing just right will unlatch it and I almost don't even notice I do it now
I’ve had the Klein’s for about 2-3 months now and absolutely love them from everywhere to twisting wires, stripping, and crimping
Milwaukee 7, Klein 10. Thanks!
Anybody notice how much faster the Klein's were than the Milwaukee at stripping. I could also point out that the Klein's anvil style cutting edge will likely never dull out or damage like the shear style will. I'm l not sure I want either one. But I'd pick the Klein. I just hate strippers that have the holes so far from the grip. Lightweight Ideal T Strippers, or the little yellow grip handle Klein's for me.
I got the Milwaukee first. Switched to the Klein’s after the edge of the Milwaukee cutter rolled cutting a spring that the Klein’s had no problem with . Basically Milwaukee’s cutter became useless afterwatds
you keep using your thumb to push the latch.
I like the Milwaukee stripper crimper better... but I really enjoy watching and listening to you review products keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Good vid....you managed to get a tired spark, at the end of his day, to get encapsulated in watching this, even though Im unlikely to ever use that tool as I have my preferences. 😎👍strangely enjoyable to watch.
Thanks so much!
I LOVE latches if done right. been using the Milwaukees for some time. I WISH every plier had sprung opening, an integrated, unobtrusive Latch, and tether point.
Unobtrusive latch I can agree with. Springs I'll decide on a tool by tool basis and a tether point I'll totally agree with. Thanks!
I have that Klein curve stripper. I also have a forged Knipex electrical pliers. I'll take My Knipex every time over Klein. Everything about them is just better... Don't know about the Milwaukee's or whatever you're comparing them to but I don't think I need to go any further than Knipex pliers
I have the bypass version of the Klein's and love them. Bought my son the Milwaukee ones. Both are nice but the Klein's just feel better in the hand. The wire sizes on the strippers though are marked much better on the Milwaukee s though.
Your thumb slides down when you begin the stripping motion. That's why the latch catches. My thumb moves less and at the start position my thumb is already touching the other handle. Your thumb slides down to approach the other handle. Maybe my hands are larger.
Exactly. When he complained the second time I backed up the video and noticed his thumb was pushing the clip down. Is it the pliers fault? Perhaps some but I'd say he just needs to train his thumb to not push it down.
@@NickFrom1228 Yeah. Too many moving parts going on for a simple cutting/stripping action.
I bet the steel quality on the Milwaukee is inferior to the Klein and after a few months they won't still cut that great. After hard use you find out how good something really is. Even the cheap Husky brand cut well while they are new, I have a pair but I know they won't last as long as my Kleins.
You’d be right at least for my experience, I used the milwaukees after they came out for about 3 months and the cutting jaw is either rolled on some parts or dull, same thing for the stripping teeth so switched back to the Klein
@@lvalle1994 and the Klein is only $10 more to me that’s a bargain, in my opinion Klein’s are priced below there quality.
I bought the Klein based on your earlier videos. I would like the closing clamp on the M. My Klein's are a different version with a spring to open, a Looper, and a shearing cutter.
Is it the K12035?
I have the Milwaukee, 19.99 on sale at home depot. I don’t do any crimping but the cutters and the strippers are the most important thing for me. I want to see how durable they are in the long run. Love the longer handles for leverage. Klein makes great tools and usa made is a big thing for me. But were not an option where i was at the time. I would but the Milwaukee again.
Milwaukee of cource! I have their 5 in 1 pliers here on Finland and have been waiting 7 in 1 coming on sale. Now the pliers are here. I like the earlier version, so the new ones cant be so bad...
After around a year my handles kept coming off the kleins the Milwaukee pair never have that issue they are cheaper cut way wayyyyy better then the kleins they have a satisfying chomp when they cut through something
You're handles started falling off after a year!? I have the klien heavy duty strippers and the handles slip off after 2 months. :(
I FREEKIN LOVE SPRINGS...SOOOO MUCH EASIER.
When it comes to a job you must be ready for any situations so bought both.
Excellent!
But if you only could keep one?
I had no idea some of the functions these were capable of. Thanks for making this video!
Just a tip when you loop those also are screw and bolt cutters
Having both I will say, it would have been great if milwaukee kept the same handles that are on their 6 in 1 pliers.
I still prefer the milwaukee's, or the heavy duty Klein's with the solid blue handles and sitting removed.
Could we get an updated version of this video with the knipex multi stripper along woth some other options?
Over the years i created a list of what works best for me. And professionals in my shop
-For power tools -impacts, drills, bandsaw 1/2 inch impacts etc
*Milwuakee
-Best grinders and hammer drills
* Dewalt
-Best hand tools and screwdrivers
* klains and craftsman
-bits
* Milwaukee, DeWalt, Wera
-Knives & blades
* DeWalt
For working on my car
*Milwaukee sockets( and they're square so they don't roll under your car when you drop them 😍.
And for impact sockets
*craftsman.. I work on diesel trucks. And they work as hard as snap-on and matco and they last for ever
Southwire is pretty good as well. I have one that dose 14/2 and 12/2 romex stripper and strips 12 & 14 solid. I know it's different from what you reviewed but I was impressed with the quality
Yes, they are very nice with an awesome cutter. Thanks Ed!
Both are good - and surprisingly much better than the Knipex combo pliers which aren’t even close to these. But the Knipex linesman pliers are so good that I rarely dig these out.
I'm an HVAC and commercial kitchen tech and while I don't plan on buying either I think I would get the klien ones, I hate spring loaded and the clips.
very nice evaluation. The look of the crimp means nothing. strength of the crimp is what should be tested.
I have a pair of the kleins and they're a great tool
the milwaukees are the best stripper ive ever used. been using them everyday for a year now and still work like theyre brand new
Thanks!
Have them both and like them both and would use both all day for if they fail they can be back ups to each other.
Excellent!
Something to consider about cutting differences. Bi-path or shear type cutters perform a shearing action in the material. They must be “sharper” or have steeper cutter angles. This improves cutting performance at the risk of easier: rolled, damaged, and misaligned edges.
Pinch style cutters have more obtuse angles, that meet and literally pinch the material apart. The edges are less likely to deform, hardened to some degree, and still perform well with small amounts of edge damage. They do take more effort to use, and deform either end of the cut material.
Thanks Rob!
I would not buy either unless that was the only tool. Too bulky to use a strippers, any crimper that you have to put handles over wire are a big no for me.
This is good for a small job when you want to only have to grab a pair of pliers and a knife. Like when you just need to change out an outlet or a switch.
Also if you're crawling around in really tight quarters, like an attic with a 5/12 roof or a crawl space. You can stick these pliers and a knife in your back pocket instead of using a tool bag.
Definitely prefer the grip on the Klein, but otherwise, I think the Milwaukee is almost better in every way. And if you don't like the spring or latch, you can theoretically remove them (even if somewhat destructively). Likewise, I think you could get a rotary tool and grind down the crimping tab, though I concede you shouldn't have to do that, and it should probably smaller like the Klein's for more pressure.
those thin milwaukee blades wear out fast.
Gotta go with Klein
I took many of their tools back to the electrical store and got replace with no problem
Milwaukee 2, Klein 7. Thanks!
I've seen tons of these comparisons on wire cutters/strippers and they always are testing it on very small stranded gauge wires. However the majority of wiring in residential and commercial applications are dealing with 12 and 14 gauge solid wire.
Thanks!
I have the Klein. Love them.
Excellent! Have a great weekend Larry!
Milwaukee 1, Klein 1.
@@SparkyChannel same to you.
You can always remove the latch and spring if you choose, and I don’t think you should ever use this style of tool to twist wires. Has to be standard lineman’s, but I see the Milwaukee as far superior
Doesn't have to be standard linemen as long as you know how to properly make joints 🙌
@@UnrankedRebel ok
@@AnxOG663 yeah I use iron worker pliers instead of lineman pliers
Been using the Milwaukee one for weeks now. Excited ti try the Klein one
Bypass cutter every day. Making sure the latch is down (further from one's thumb) the less likely the latch is to catch accidentally watching your hand motions when using the stripper.
Milwaukee 13, Klein 23. Thanks!
I’m with you I hate that latch. Another great video!
Thanks so much!
Well, the latch isn't really the problem. It's the method of use. I solely use the older Milwaukee strippers and I have never had the latch move without my intentional use of it. Bill is stripping that small wire like he's trying to fight through arthritis or something.
i like the klein better for everything but the lack of bypass cable cutting makes them an automatic looser from my perspective.
I have been using only Klein since 1967 only tools in my pouch.
Milwaukee 24, Klein 35. Thanks!
You and everybody else 🤷🏽♂️
@@victorf361 Klein has gone to crap. Knipex is king!
Bought the Klien two months ago and am going to try to return it to Home Depot. The cutting blade is too short and it is very hard to cut 14/3 and 12/3 romex. The tip doesn't fully close and won't grab small strands. Very disappointed. I'm going to try a Knipex.
Thanks for sharing!
@@SparkyChannel Today, one of the grips kept coming off when I put in the long pocket of my carpenter pants.
I agree with you
I returned mine, knipex is the way to go
@@ItsEdwinG I bought the Knipex and it is better but not perfect. It's easier to find the right slot for stripping wires and does a better job. I'm still getting used to the thumb lock but it doesn't have the problem of accidently opening like the Milwaukee in the video. The curved cable cutting blade does a nice job cutting larger cables but you have to spread the handles farther apart than you do with straight blades. Again, something to get used to. There is a slot in the middle of the tip serrations that works great for grabbing wire for putting a hook in a wire end.
I like these detailed reviews awesome video
Thanks so much Jeff!
I have the same klien stripers and I can’t wait to use them !
I have the Klien ones. I did not like them. They strip wire very rough, and are not great as a lineman’s. Easier in my opinion to just have a regular strippers and a regular linesman’s
Thanks!
They're not meant to replace your lineman pliers man. Either you're mistaken or someone mislead you. You need both strippers and linemans.
mix of both on my tool bag but for pliers i got the klein switching to milawaukee soon
I love the Milwaukees! Great video. I must’ve purchased the left-handed model with the latch on the other side however. Now my rogue thumb doesn’t accidentally push it closed. *wink *
Hey bill, I've been using the milwaukee stripper for a long time the smaller version of the one your using, when stripping wires, after you put wire in tool give the stripper a little up or down motion and the wire jacket comes off easy. Only problem with milwaukee is they dull after awhile.
Good tip! Thanks!
If I had an engineer friend at Ideal industries I would send them what I liked on the Milwaukee and Klein and see if they could make a pair close to Klein but with the cutter of the Milwaukee. Bypass cutters generally cutter larger items. Notice that the hydraulic powered cutters and ratcheting cutters are bypass. Same thing in pruners. The bigger pruners are bypass
Great video.
Thanks Victor, sounds good!
This video needs an update won’t be Klein too that has the shears cutter it’s the same blue tool but with sheers and a spring no crimper I’d like to see that comparison
I'm old school. I still use wire nuts and I twist my wires together before putting on the wire nut. The noses are too narrow on both tools. I like the klein curved handle. I like the milwaukee spring and bypass cutter. Cutting MC cable is a good way to ruin your cutters. I don't need the crimping feature since I rarely do crimping and I have a dedicated ratcheting tool. I want a tool that can replace strippers and lineman pliers because my pouch has way too many tools. I like latches on spring handles but that milwaukee design is flawed. Both tools are not ready for prime time.
Thanks Dave!