Understanding Social Justice

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  • @WhatifAltHist
    @WhatifAltHist  2 ปีที่แล้ว +742

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      @Yellow.1844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      genuine question, why do you think that the goal of colonialism wasn't financial because they lost money in the end but just like today the with many US wars is for the people to pay for war while big military companies make banks? Wasn't it the same? people pay, people with power get the contracts and profit

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  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7747

    As a Nigerian-immigrant currently working and schooling in North America, I have come to one conclusion: Social Justice, wokeness and progressivism can ONLY exist in a developed, liberal and first-world nation/region where there are very few existential threats and where the purposeless masses in urban areas have to create some form of ideology to fill the void in their lives. That is why it makes no sense and destroys that society. That is also why rural westerners, non-western countries and immigrants mostly tend to hate social justice and wokeness more than the native citizens.

    • @mosterchife6045
      @mosterchife6045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +789

      I forget who said this, but I remember hearing the quote: 'An idle mind wanders in dark places'

    • @akgxd
      @akgxd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +680

      You nailed it. I live in south america and only a wealthy minority alienated to the west believes in this kind of lunacy. The average person cares about working hard and providing and would never buy that gender pseudoscience crap. The problem is that some american institutions fund these kind of ideas.

    • @LoganLS0
      @LoganLS0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      If someone's biggest problem is people don't respect their gender that they spent 1000s of dollars to change with technology we've only had for 50 years, they're not that oppressed.

    • @ladybernkastel5696
      @ladybernkastel5696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      So why did you moved in the first place? I mean, im from shithole country myself, but it is not *that* bad to move thousands miles away from home, family, native language and so on. I really cant understand migrants at their core. No offence tho.

    • @pollall2793
      @pollall2793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +264

      Ethnic Armenian here, child or two immigrants to the US, the amount of rants I’ve heard my mom has gone on rants as to how spoiled rotten people in the West are, and rightly so, is staggering.

  • @abeldnite
    @abeldnite ปีที่แล้ว +313

    "I've taken a course in gender studies" damn dude, going though that shit is true commitment

    • @GoodChoicess
      @GoodChoicess 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Dont you know? All colleges require all majors to take at least one gender studies course now. Its a standard requirement

    • @Elhombrequemurio
      @Elhombrequemurio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@GoodChoicess Its not just colleges anymore. I'm still in high school, and we have to take both an ethnic studies and gender one. I dunno about the other states though, cause I live in California.

    • @randal3122
      @randal3122 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ya i had to take a gender studies class in college too. all we did was read historical feminist literature and write reports on it. it seemed like it was supposed to be indoctrination, and that was almost 15 years ago now. that was prior to wokism taking hold the way it has now, and it wasnt at a very liberal college. i also had to take a native american studies class, which was basically the same kind of nonsense. we spent a decent chunk of that class beading necklaces... i cant even imagine the level of indoctrination that is happening in colleges now. parents really should think twice before sending their kids off to college generically. and if they do, they really need to prepare their kids to be mentally strong and not let social pressure and indoctrination sway them

    • @abeldnite
      @abeldnite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GoodChoicess I'm not from the US and I've finished college like 7 years ago tho. In other countries we would call gender studies, in our respective languages, something that roughly translates to "retarded fucking bullshit that has no practical use in society and is a waste of time, created by pretentious douchebags who try to corrupt all that is good and noble, and ruin basic knowledge that has worked for as long as humanity has existed because is true and not based on lies made by degenerates".

    • @GoodChoicess
      @GoodChoicess 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well actually@@randal3122, youll be happy to know there are quite a few professors out there encouraging students to think differently, especially about social issues and COVID-related stuff. Unfortunately, despite these awesome professor's best efforts, the college students of today are simply too scared of saying the wrong thing. It was even more depressing then it was 10 years ago man.

  • @ALRIGHTYTHEN.
    @ALRIGHTYTHEN. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2449

    "Says gender doesn't exist but still hates men". That pretty much sums up the amount of reason they put into their ideology.

    • @wourydiallo1445
      @wourydiallo1445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      That was such a raw line ngl

    • @SergioLeonardoCornejo
      @SergioLeonardoCornejo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually feel no need to understand their ideology since it is an ideology built on hatred.

    • @hermitcard4494
      @hermitcard4494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christians: ProLife.
      Bible: And God or Moses commanded men to kill EVERYONE without mercy, even pregnant women.
      Ps: Im just happy current Christians dont do that sort of things anymore.

    • @breadman32398
      @breadman32398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The easiest way to take down oppressive classes, is if everyone just identifies as an oppressed class.

    • @ALRIGHTYTHEN.
      @ALRIGHTYTHEN. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@highqualityimage8776 but they do claim oppression that they never suffered.

  • @quantumfoam539
    @quantumfoam539 ปีที่แล้ว +646

    I am an traditional realist portait painter artist and I live in Europe. I wanted to share a story with you from the Art Academia I studied. It was an extremely 'modern' school in which being a painter was fraud upon. Everyone who still adheres to classical art is called "an imitator, an unoriginal, a boring old dinosaur". I changed many teachers inside the school and they all agreed in this. Classical values and the art that they represent are DEAD. I had a friend in the school who painted the portaits of people of historic and scientific importance like Socrates, Galileo and a teacher told him that even painting pornography with these historic people would be more interesting and contpemporary than painting their portaits. Because as they said 'everyone can learn to paint and real art is just a product of the mind. And it is not my school it is the whole art world. Just like music deteriorated to poor and unintelligible sounds, art became nothing more than poor artist skills, ugliness, provocation and easy money.

    • @Dak1549
      @Dak1549 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That's incredibly sad.

    • @wtp7631
      @wtp7631 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I love the "classic" style. Portraits and landscapes. It's some of the few painted art I like.

    • @KeenanRuffinEl
      @KeenanRuffinEl ปีที่แล้ว +10

      listen to more music fool

    • @kartzzy6101
      @kartzzy6101 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@KeenanRuffinEl pretty sure he is purely referring to hip hop deteriorating over time into almost wordless mumbo-jumbo. The lack of annunciation has morphed into either mumbling or basically just very lazily speaking in the songs to the point where you need to look up lyrics for half of the top songs in the genre to know what they are saying. It's pretty easy to extrapolate the exact music he's talking about since it is by far the most popular genre in the west.

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Modern art is rarely appealing.. and the one that does tends to come from outsiders, like banksy. In belguim we had panamarinko with facination flying objects arts, but i litterly can't think of a 3th name modern artist who's work i could care about.. so they are really out of touch with almost all people except a small group of rich leftist who they hope to sell to??

  • @hairfollicle1971
    @hairfollicle1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2368

    As an energy nerd with an electrical engineering background - you are right on nuclear to an extent. There are wind&solar rich areas including in the USA where renewables are cost-realistic. However, Europe often lacks some of this capacity and the German push against nuclear is silly nonsense.

    • @090giver090
      @090giver090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      European "Nucleophobia" is at least understandable. If you mishandle wind turbine the worst thing that happens is that it falls on someone's head. If you mishandle nuclear reactor... Chernobyl exclusion zone stays uninhabitable for another 500years and Europe, unlike USSR has not so much area to spare.

    • @emilv.3693
      @emilv.3693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      As Germany, you could put wind turbines in the Baltic Sea, but you can only put a little or else you start to impede ship navigation

    • @taptiotrevizo9415
      @taptiotrevizo9415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      @@090giver090 chernobyl was a freak accident by a outdated nuclear power plant in a accident that killed less than a couple thousand people

    • @090giver090
      @090giver090 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@taptiotrevizo9415 A) It may've killed more if we take into account long-term/inborn health issues. B) It displaced 100 000 people and turned 2600 square kilometres into contaminated area. C) It wasn't outdated. Station was built just 6 years prior and reactor design itself was crated in 1973 roughly same time (and same principles) as any other Gen II reactors.
      As I said it is UNDERATANDABLE that smaller and more densely populated European countries are not willing to take their chances (even if I too do not adhere to modern "nucleophobia").

    • @adamperdue3178
      @adamperdue3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      @@090giver090 It's understandable in the same way it's understandable to be afraid of being on a tall building. There's a chance it could collapse, and tall buildings have collapsed before, killing thousands of people. But it's incredibly unlikely to happen, and even if it does, the amount of damage will likely be small in the grand scheme of things. More people die per year due to coal-related causes than ever died due to Chernobyl. Hell, more people die annually due to renewable energy than due to nuclear.

  • @bernardopaba
    @bernardopaba 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1548

    Being a son of 1st gen immigrants from Mexico that go back and visit family, I have always thought that the SJ movement has been created by a lack of real world problems in America today. Since there is no more starvation, extreme poverty, or a corrupt government in place, Americans and Europeans seem to have created their own “problems” in order to give their lives meaning. When I went to visit a couple of friends at USC recently, I was shocked at how truly detached and spoiled the students on campus were to the real world. Of course when I tried to point it out, I was met with cries that America was terrible, to which the only thing I could do without getting into a full debate was to invite them to come with me to Mexico. Not the touristy Mexico, but the REAL Mexico where they would see what life can really be like if you don’t value what America is.

    • @kommandant69
      @kommandant69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      Social justice = 1st world problems for spoiled little rich a**holes to fret over

    • @PSL416
      @PSL416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      It’s because 1st world citizens have forgotten what it was like to live humbly. To just help ones community by donating their time and work. Instead, they want to be world changing heroes, but in order to be one, they need a villain to fight. Since there isn’t one within their own country (even though there are plenty outside of it), they just make one up.

    • @hopeintruth5119
      @hopeintruth5119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Umm no dude. Just because your country don't see things as similar issues. That doesn't mean others make it up. You guys got your problems. We have our problems. Our society has a focus on these things, your society focuses on those things.

    • @hopeintruth5119
      @hopeintruth5119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @Paco Seagle I say it's the hyper-individualism and consumerism. Also, low class classism that has been steam rolling since the 60s

    • @frankhernandez8772
      @frankhernandez8772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      @@hopeintruth5119 As a Mexican you just proved him right and missed the point because it is not about if we see problems the same, many people in Mexico are worried for survival, in the US problems it faces are nothing compared to Mexicos.

  • @cauyawolfe4724
    @cauyawolfe4724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2115

    CHAZ is the perfect example of "In a world where everyone is a pacifist the person who chooses not to be will rule the world"

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Ouch, ain't that a paradox!

    • @carlrodalegrado4104
      @carlrodalegrado4104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      like in a kingdom of blind men the one eyed man is king?

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      It was basically Hawks vs Doves in real life.

    • @kamikaze5528
      @kamikaze5528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      I'm a pacifist. Being a pacifist means you don't start aggression against other, not that you don't defend yourself.
      That is not pacifism, that just plain stupid.
      Mutually assured destruction is what creates peace, not harmlesness.

    • @conserva-chan2735
      @conserva-chan2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kang and Kodos moment

  • @thomasharvey5764
    @thomasharvey5764 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    A friend of mine had his business looted and burned down during the BLM/ANTIFA riots in Rochester NY. He was about to retire and had a buyer for his business. He had insurance, took the settlement and retired. What was once a successful tax paying business is now a burned out shell on a vacant property providing no value to anyone. Saying that replaceable property is not a loss negates the non-insurable years of sweat equity spent building a business.

    • @magicboxhead9448
      @magicboxhead9448 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heavy Metal Pulp it would ruin their reputation if they didn’t. And insurance runs on reputation

    • @landlockedcroat1554
      @landlockedcroat1554 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how's he doing

    • @JohnBickner
      @JohnBickner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you give us the address and before and after pictures?
      Donald went around claiming the city was burned down. In fact nearly all the damage was near ONE intersection. Five or six buildings were irreparably damaged or destroyed. Two of them were auto parts stores burned down by their owner.
      So you can see why I want you to verify what you're saying.

    • @JohnBickner
      @JohnBickner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oops. The city I meant is Minneapolis.

    • @thomasharvey5764
      @thomasharvey5764 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now do you believe me.@@JohnBickner

  • @kichigaisensei
    @kichigaisensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2049

    "...it's just a movement run by people who can't organize themselves, can't feed themselves, and aren't very well-armed." YES.

    • @gwho
      @gwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      But Western democracy bad... for some reason.

    • @highqualityimage8776
      @highqualityimage8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Ah yes if ''SJW's'' are so bad (which they aren't they have actually done a lot of good for our society and have contributed to many good things happening around the world as we speak ) what about conservatives then, tell me a good thing that conservatives have done that has supported society, let's just say in the past... 20 years, I will wait for you to give me an answer

    • @kichigaisensei
      @kichigaisensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@highqualityimage8776 Conservatism is a philosophy in which we take centuries or millennia-proven systems and use what works while tweaking and experimenting with what doesn't work in order to improve it. SJW philosophy is the knee-jerk reaction to simply burn the world down to its foundations for the crime of not being perfect....with the hubris to believe that inexperienced 22 year-olds know how to rebuild it...not only just rebuild it, but rebuild it better on foundations they've arbitrarily concocted.
      Before I tell you what "good thing" conservatives have done, I think you should give examples of the many "contributions" you believe SJW culture has made. I know SJWs aren't used to being questioned and asked to back up their outrageous claims. So, it could be uncomfortable. Do your best.

    • @highqualityimage8776
      @highqualityimage8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kichigaisensei Now tell me any good contributions to society conservatives have done in the past 10-20 years

    • @kichigaisensei
      @kichigaisensei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      @@highqualityimage8776 Why? You still haven't backed up your claim that SJWs have done good things.

  • @vitorpavani7125
    @vitorpavani7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +673

    Social Justice in developing nations is even more detached from reality. While college students are importing ideas and debates from 1st world countries such as gender neutral toilets they're completely unaware that they literally live in a country where almost HALF of the homes have no access to sewer treatment and people LITERALLY have no toilets in their homes.
    But at least in Brazil, social justice seems to be losing momentum. I'm seeing more leftist friends becoming disillusioned at identity politics and gravitating more torwards more conceivable and necessary goals such as reducing extreme poverty, social inequality and climate change;

    • @joaogabreil2
      @joaogabreil2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Sim. Mas o Brasil ainda sofre dessa polarização política, e não é raro ver pessoas de um lado desconsiderando a opinião ou argumento do outro lado só porque é o outro- o que leva os dois lados a ficarem na ignorância por não engajar no debate político, e reforça a visão de que "o outro é ignorante e os argumentos dele também serão". E eu me preocupo aonde essa bola de neve vai nos levar...

    • @vitorpavani7125
      @vitorpavani7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@joaogabreil2 historicamente, o aumento da polarização e radicalização política leva a guerra civil. A questão é se essa polarização vai continuar aumentando ou vai pausar (ou mesmo recuar).

    • @joaogabreil2
      @joaogabreil2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@vitorpavani7125 Bem, se eu puder viajar: se as tensões exteriores forem maior do que as tensões interiores, poderíamos evitar uma guerra civil lutando uma terceira guerra mundial. Só falta a China invadir Taiwan e os States convocarem a ajuda dos países de sua área de influência (no caso Europa, Austrália e América Latina)

    • @arieloliver3219
      @arieloliver3219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Hi friend, here in mexico is kinda halted except for the trans movement, is slowly creeping in politics, hopefully it won't get as bad as in the US since we have such problems in poverty and violence for us to worry about than having mixed bathrooms or forcing people using prefered pronouns, personally to me the social construct of gender is bullshit but if someone would ask me to call them her or he I would but that doesn't change what they're and about the non binary thing is also bullshit for the vast majority of people, there are people with DSD (disorder of sexual development) but even then they don't consider themselves as non binary

    • @TankEngine75
      @TankEngine75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's identity politics?

  • @TheSmithPlays
    @TheSmithPlays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2173

    To my suprise, the comment section is actually in relative agreement, and all are at least civilized.
    Dang that’s crazy. Who would ever imagine a group of people that have a basic understanding and interest in history to not be in support of radical ideology. LOL

    • @samg.5165
      @samg.5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      @@ZentaBon You're partially right in that these extreme views are not yet held by the average person, but they are absolutely held by academics spearheading the movement, and they are the ones with the most influence.
      Think of it this way. If a sizeable movement of intellectuals, media personalities and politicians within the country adopted rabidly racist stances, but the average conservative was only a mild White supremacist, would you focus on the latter group?

    • @TheDopestOfShit
      @TheDopestOfShit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I tried to comment a single disagreement about something he said and my comment keeps disappearing, so I wonder how manipulated it is. But agreed, who would've thought people who study radical ideology aren't a fan of it!

    • @zephvictor5306
      @zephvictor5306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@ZentaBon Because the average social justice activists do not get any huge attention whatsoever. I follow a lot of sensible feminist accounts on social media where they actually focus on helping and empowering women without belitting men in every post and I think none of them have over 5000 followers and that's me being generous. Why do you think these social justice protests always get violent? It's because only the radicals are getting a massive following. If normal social justice activists were more popular believe me social justice wouldn't be criticized as heavily.

    • @crazedmma0
      @crazedmma0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Dude you are ny fucking childhood lmao, you and lex

    • @pollall2793
      @pollall2793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He’s a man of sound mind in a deranged world.
      WIAH is saying what the majority of us our thinking, but we’ve been too afraid of saying anything, lest we be called “racist”.

  • @TheSpicyLeg
    @TheSpicyLeg ปีที่แล้ว +69

    If Chaz was a right wing zone, the media would’ve been screaming for it to be nuked and the military would’ve started shelling it. It’s not that the media, academia, or whatever actually believes a right wing rebellion would be any more or less violent. That’s not their fear. Their fear is that the right wing zone would be competent.
    FreedomToons did a great comic on this.

    • @jameseverett9037
      @jameseverett9037 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      because with the Left, the issue is never the issue. That's why the inconsistency, and lack of principle in action. I often used to hear comments like "when you understand that obama hates America, then everything he does makes perfect sense." Otherwise people would be frustrated at so many things he did and said, assuming he was elected to bring Americans together, though I have no idea how they ever got that impression from his campaign speeches.

    • @swampfaye
      @swampfaye 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Link?

    • @ZnamTwojaMama101
      @ZnamTwojaMama101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Title of the FreedomToons comic?

  • @nowhereman6019
    @nowhereman6019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6192

    Oh boy, this will be fun and certainly not at all controversial.

    • @justjoshua5759
      @justjoshua5759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Dammit you beat me in saying this

    • @ethanwmonster9075
      @ethanwmonster9075 2 ปีที่แล้ว +211

      very civil much unbiased discussion about the current events.

    • @kirbypsicopata29
      @kirbypsicopata29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hehehe

    • @robertstone9988
      @robertstone9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      You can't give offence you can only take it.

    • @mg1462
      @mg1462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😎🧐

  • @tahjai2nd282
    @tahjai2nd282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1344

    As an African-American, my greatest fear of social justice is the backlash. I got a bad feeling that when it swing back it will hit my group hard.

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      The economic swing back is what's gonna hurt. I hope this doesn't come off condescending with no hope but what I mean is gonna be this. The left will nobly want to help the black demographic income. I can get behind that. But how they're gonna do it will ruin their intention. They'll donate money. But in order to make that money they donate they'll raise taxes. So the African community will be tax so bad that the donations they receive will be meaningless. But socialists will ignore that.
      It scares me how people with noble actions corrupt nobility with stupid policies. Overtaxation how will the blacks feed themselves with less money that donation redistribution will do nothing what can they do?
      Hope I sound accurate in leftist economic policies and my future worries.
      The right isn't innocent either they'll just ignore it. They'll do nothing and dismiss. Ignore basically. Which I a right winger can't deny.

    • @tahjai2nd282
      @tahjai2nd282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@noahtylerpritchett2682 I'm a right-winger to(center-right)

    • @AJ-sw8uf
      @AJ-sw8uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Bingo bro

    • @wafflecone6968
      @wafflecone6968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      As another african american. You and me both. If they keep justifying the most toxic parts of the black community the backlash will be so much worse.

    • @noahtylerpritchett2682
      @noahtylerpritchett2682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@tahjai2nd282 yea same. Or conservative right rather than center right. But definitely not authoritarian right. A evil backlash to woke social justice leftist evil

  • @SmokeBigi
    @SmokeBigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    sometimes i like being a third worlder, ppl here are busy trying to fulfil basic necessities and don't have time to spend on cringe ideologies, so other than the lack of money, life is pretty comfy

    • @fandomguy8025
      @fandomguy8025 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't be so sure, Socialism is becoming very popular over there again. (I mean, depending on where you're talking about but it has spread around)

    • @selahaarif8648
      @selahaarif8648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how you say this, as a third-worlder myself. Really shows theres an IQ problem in our countries.
      Just you wait. Wait when first-world caused, climate-induced genocide kills us all and theres no more water and food left.

    • @caniblmolstr4503
      @caniblmolstr4503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@fandomguy8025 No socialism has lost all credibility in my nation at the least (India). We are simply disgusted with how we performed under a pseudo-Socialist model till basically the 90s.
      We are fully on board with Capitalism now.

    • @egoxagony4623
      @egoxagony4623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caniblmolstr4503 yeah…..sure. What about the farmer protests.

    • @caniblmolstr4503
      @caniblmolstr4503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@egoxagony4623 crushed it... The farm laws got amended and passed

  • @mushybutterfl1es
    @mushybutterfl1es ปีที่แล้ว +225

    i’m an african american woman myself and i’m starting to question social justice. i was actually on a path to becoming a leftist until i found thomas sowell. it’s so weird because i feel like you have to be super left leaning to be accepted in the black community. i’m more center left now but regardless i’m definitely questioning social justice.

    • @daddyplankton5855
      @daddyplankton5855 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Thinking for yourself is a great characteristics for anyone no matter the political view👍

    • @TheUrizen
      @TheUrizen ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thomas Sowell is such an interesting figure. I have yet to read one of his books because I am skeptic about classic economic liberalism as a rule of thumb and reading a book is big time investment. Also, since I am not black or white the supposed "racial perspective" is lost on me, and I figured he was "too american" as an author to be of relevance to me personally.
      That being said, your comment has certainly piqued my interest to check him out.

    • @ryanvenjoyer
      @ryanvenjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sowell is a beast. Yeah even my relatively conservative black family still seems to think moderate libertarianism is too far right.

    • @devilletuesday7371
      @devilletuesday7371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@TheUrizen read my comment. Thanks

    • @beneficent2557
      @beneficent2557 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Congratulations on choosing the path of mental health and self esteem.

  • @gamebawesome
    @gamebawesome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +984

    Look at that, Zero Dislikes. Glad this video wasn't too controversial.

    • @chiangkaishrek5123
      @chiangkaishrek5123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh

    • @EPICoutcast24
      @EPICoutcast24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jajaja no mames wey

    • @anyways4438
      @anyways4438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      575 dislikes so far

    • @psycho-analyticgamer7452
      @psycho-analyticgamer7452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@anyways4438 Compared to 8.2K likes that's a wonderful ratio

    • @urphakeandgey6308
      @urphakeandgey6308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@psycho-analyticgamer7452 Bear in mind that early viewers, like the first 24 hours or so, tend to be fans. Expect that ratio to slowly drop as time goes on. Not expecting it to be horrible, but a controversial video is a controversial video.

  • @glorioustigereye
    @glorioustigereye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    It makes me wonder how Americans raised on morals of love everyone, value freedom of speech, oppose authoritarianism and fascism. Can turn into racist, authoritarians, who refuses to let others speak. It amazes me how many people genuinely believe bullying others would make a better society. I thought the lesson to learn was be kind to everyone.

    • @emorbiustricycle994
      @emorbiustricycle994 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      turning a thing on it's head and bullying your kin to expand your ideological coping, thats what.

    • @youtubegpt-usertester
      @youtubegpt-usertester ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This comment highlights the apparent contradiction of American values, such as love and freedom of speech, with the actions of some individuals within the social justice movement who are perceived as bullying and authoritarian. It expresses amazement at how some people believe that bullying others would lead to a better society, and suggests that the lesson to be learned is to be kind to everyone.
      It is important to note that the comment is making a generalization about the entire social justice movement based on the actions of some individuals within the movement. This is not accurate as the social justice movement is made up of a diverse group of people with different perspectives, and not all individuals within the movement engage in bullying or authoritarian behavior. Additionally, it is important to recognize that social justice activism often involves advocating for marginalized communities and challenging oppressive systems, which can sometimes involve difficult conversations and holding people accountable for their actions.
      Furthermore, it is important to recognize that the issues that the social justice movement addresses, such as racism, sexism, homophobia, and other forms of discrimination, are real and have a significant impact on people's lives. It is not accurate to suggest that these issues are simply "created" by people who are detached from the real world.
      In terms of solutions, it is important to encourage dialogue and understanding rather than demonizing or silencing individuals or groups. This can be done by actively listening to and engaging with different perspectives, educating oneself on the issues, and engaging in meaningful and respectful conversations with those who may have different views. Additionally, it is important to support and uplift marginalized voices and work towards creating a more inclusive and equitable society.

    • @masterofreality230
      @masterofreality230 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youtubegpt-usertester Do you eat ass?

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@youtubegpt-usertester damn bot

    • @weignerleigner3037
      @weignerleigner3037 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you read history tho they’ve always been this way. Progressives a hundred years ago were eugenicists trying to ethnically cleanse America of non white people, then they progressed to trying to cleanse America of white people. They’ve always held the same beliefs. They’ve just evolved their targets over time. And they’ve never been nice people. When you believe that you and you alone hold the key to a prosperous future then why would you entertain others opinions? Notice how they are very full of themselves and talk down to us as if we are just stupid and don’t understand what they are saying. These people always have been and always will be scum.

  • @wigglyziggly
    @wigglyziggly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    The social justice movement embodies the quote "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" to a scary degree

    • @Kubinda12345
      @Kubinda12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I doubt it because I don't even think that their intentions are truly good.
      Even the communists had ideas how to create; SJs know only how to destroy.

    • @entropino9928
      @entropino9928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Nah I have come to realise their intentions weren't good and that these intentions would always pave towards hell. Altruism and egalitarianism must be eliminated utterly

    • @SnillhundReal
      @SnillhundReal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Kubinda12345 As someone who has often been surrounded by SJWs, I can attest that most have good intentions.
      The radicals do make out a minority. That being said, they often do have more power than the moderates, being they ought to be worried about.
      But most SJWs think that they are genuinely making a better society.
      My friend thinks that censoring the N-word should be in law. Why? Because that protects such minority groups from hate.
      As in, they have good intentions in trying to make minorities feel less attacked, but by doing so, opens the gate for larger problems.

    • @wigglyziggly
      @wigglyziggly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@entropino9928 "altruism and egalitarianism should be eliminated utterly"
      That is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. So dumb it barely merits this response. Congrats. You are literally one of the backlash people WIAH warns about at the end of this video.

    • @wigglyziggly
      @wigglyziggly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Kubinda12345 I wouldn't go to that extent. Equal rights and helping the downtrodden are objectively good intentions. Like WIAH said, the problem comes from a lack of moral structure. Even Communists are guilty of that. It's a good intention to tear down evil, but you have to have something built up in its place or you're right back at square 1.

  • @nf3rn047
    @nf3rn047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    As an asian 17 year old, i hate social justice, its taught in canadian schools and its disguised as social studies also its mandatory to graduate, i hated it learnt nothing useful and was a waste of time in my prime age.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I hope it gets the backlash it really deserved.

  • @gwho
    @gwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2300

    Listening to this, I feel like I am finally not in a world filled with completely insane people.

    • @DoomShrm
      @DoomShrm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Remember this guy is a liberal arts major

    • @ibeatweebs8038
      @ibeatweebs8038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      its true if all you hear all your life how social justice is so good you start to question yourself and its hard to hold on your core values

    • @benshepherd488
      @benshepherd488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Funny, I get the exact opposite feeling, especially looking at the comments. So many insane people

    • @deth3234
      @deth3234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ibeatweebs8038 if all you've heard your whole life is "social justice is good", wouldn't that BE your core value?

    • @gamerriseup7365
      @gamerriseup7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deth3234 No I am living proof . At some point after being told by family, teachers neighbours and pretty much most of the minority group that I am a part of, that we are victims , orange man is bad and we should support the lefties. I became skeptical, these people would almost never do what they preached about and whenever their facade came off they were hypocrite, narcissist, egotistical assholes. And I only knew a few people who weren't a part of the mob. We did our research, began watching alternative news and channels who had different opinions and gave sources. If I never questioned the authority I'd probably still be a sheep with unjustified rage against those who I don't even much about other then what news and people told me. I'd rather suffer knowing the truth than be bliss in ignorance.

  • @cade5792
    @cade5792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    "Authoritarianism is always 'cool' among intellectuals since it allows them in imagine themselves in power, where they would supposedly be able to use their superior intelligence" dang, nice line here.

    • @RotneybotOfficial
      @RotneybotOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It's also cool to have the tools they utilized for their "movement/revolution" turn against them. Intellectuals are so smart that they usually never consider the consequences in the fallout or the aftermath.

    • @pressftopayrespects6325
      @pressftopayrespects6325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So, a big police and military budget isn’t “authoritarianism?”

    • @oliversmith9296
      @oliversmith9296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hands up if you know someone like that 👆🏻

    • @endengineer2441
      @endengineer2441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@pressftopayrespects6325 A big military spending is common among authoritarian nations, but no, a country having a sizable military spending doesn't mean that said country is authoritarian.

    • @pressftopayrespects6325
      @pressftopayrespects6325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@endengineer2441 And police, specifically police which have no stakes in communities they “protect and serve.”

  • @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC
    @FFFFFFF-FFFFFFFUUUUCCCC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    In a post-religion world, people are desperately searching for something to believe in

    • @grayrook2406
      @grayrook2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      based

    • @golagiswatchingyou2966
      @golagiswatchingyou2966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Just like in the 20th century.

    • @nowhereman6019
      @nowhereman6019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Nah, people will still have their illusions like they've always had.

    • @PSL416
      @PSL416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      It’s what happens when children learn of all the past heroes who fought against bad things and wanted to do the same without any real bad things to fight against. At least no where near the level that it was in the past for whatever that may be.
      The worst part is that people in the west keep shitting on their own countries for things they’ve done in the past while countries like China are doing the same exact things in the modern day (forcefully destroying cultures, upholding actually racist, nationalistic, and sexist values, and creating enough pollution to make the western nations pollution look like a joke.

    • @bryanabare
      @bryanabare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think this ties in with what Nietzsche stated about nihilist post religion society

  • @heyitsfranklynn168
    @heyitsfranklynn168 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I was working construction in Seattle when CHOP happened. 1. It was a tiny chunk of Seattle, the right wing totally overblew how much of the city it took over. 2. It was so much more of a pathetic failure than people made it out. It got violent and authoritarian so fast, the worst of it was never reported by the left wing.

    • @justasimpleguy7211
      @justasimpleguy7211 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, the "Right Wing" did no such thing. It was accurately reported as several blocks, however that's insane and should frighten any sane person because that the powers that be saw nothing wrong enough to stop it or stop all the riots during "The Summer of Love".
      Leftists have gone totally insane and if allowed will become murderous eventually.

    • @9n3-
      @9n3- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was just more proof that communism doesn’t work, so those of us with an iq above 80
      Appreciated it

    • @gamer1X12
      @gamer1X12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it was overran by the mentally ill, drug addicted, and criminal, the community garden was full of half wilted weeds and inedible herbs, no one knew how to do or build anything, and the few who chose to, for whatever reason, stay, lived among squalor and garbage in the ruins of looted buildings... buildings that, ironically, were covered in communist graffiti promising them prosperity was within their grasp. Did i sum it up about right?

    • @urruvar
      @urruvar วันที่ผ่านมา

      The woke movement is in part a failure of the centre and right to call out their BS

  • @TitusCastiglione1503
    @TitusCastiglione1503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1169

    Whatifalthist is a hidden gem. This is probably the best summation of the modern Social Justice movement I’ve seen.

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      With some weird shit thrown in let’s not forget

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Name-dv4qu there’s no movement called social justice proceeds to define the movement called social justice great job 👏

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Name-dv4qu again it’s not a strawman just because you don’t like the facts. Facts don’t care about your feelings sjws are real powerful and batshit crazy just look around you and watch the video if you don’t believe us

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Name-dv4qu what???? He showed evidence after evidence for everything did you even watch the video and what the fuck do you mean “playing into existing worldviews” this is not an established theory you’re the one falling for the sjw rabbithole he has been there and came out all of this video is the result of years of study and living experience in academic sjw dominated world. You’re the only playing on established worldviews to disregard what is most likely the best explanatory theory on social justice and cultural progressivism we’ve had in years if you have an alternative please elaborate on it but don’t come with that bs of “playing into existing worldviews” when someone just presented you with a completely new understanding which is the result of overcoming biases and years of study research and introspection.

    • @luisandrade2254
      @luisandrade2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Name-dv4qu well maybe you haven’t been to a university or a government office or seen a movie or haven’t seen the massive riots and the rebellion that plagued America in 2020 and the arrest and harassment of people for politically incorrect opinions when I said look around I meant on the streets not online

  • @aidandix7296
    @aidandix7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +495

    Social justice is one of the reasons I thought i was right wing in the first place, I'm more center left but me and lots of my peers, no matter how far left, dispise social justice worriors

    • @moon-pw1bi
      @moon-pw1bi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      the term "social justice warriors" isnt actually a term people call themselves. its just a term to mock anyone backing any vaguely progressive movement so it basically clusters people fighting for completely different things together, pretty much reducing them to just a mob of angry people.

    • @aidandix7296
      @aidandix7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@moon-pw1bi I always used the term for a specific branch of the left that tended to be privelaged middle and upper class white people who followed these movements to act like a hero but were, in reality, out of touch.
      At least that how me and my peers were familiar with the term

    • @liliana.6053
      @liliana.6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@aidandix7296 Well, there's an issue with this picture of activist you have in mind being manufactured, mainly by powers opposing social change. Like how being queer is often seen as a wealthy American thing here in Europe while most of us are close to the poverty line. Don't get me wrong, slacktivism, trying to gain clout from the left by being performatively woke is a thing, but I find these way more prevalent on the right.

    • @aidandix7296
      @aidandix7296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@liliana.6053 Of course, I'm on the left for a reason don't think it's a huge portion but a vocal minority

    • @Fro_ozo
      @Fro_ozo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right lib or right auth when it comes to the right wing?
      Which side were you leaning on cause that would change everything about that “I thought I was right wing in the first place”
      I just wanna know

  • @raushanaljufri
    @raushanaljufri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +493

    I'm Indonesian but I used to live in the US, and I'm familiar with the english speaking Internet, and I honestly think that a lot of these SJW's live in their own personal bubbles. They make the US and the modern West seem so horrible or unjust, while the reality is that life even as a poor underprivilaged person in the West is probably so much better and freer then in most of the developing world. If you think being a female in America is hard, try being a female in Saudi Arabia, for example. Most people in the developing world are TRYING to be empirical, objective, scientific, hard-working, all the qualities which made the West succesful but the SJW's disparage. Science, education, and hard work are not 'white' characteristics, they're traits necessary for success in a modern society. At the same time, they attack any legitimate criticism on ethnic or religious minorities as racist, without seeing how harmful their actual ideas are. Try being gay in an islamic country, you'd probably get youself in a lot of trouble. But they if you criticize say islam for being anti-gay for example, you'd get attacked for being racist. Look, I'm actually center-left, and there are a lot of real problems in the world, and even in the West, but these SJW's have a really distorted view of what the problems are, and what the solutions are.

    • @kennysboat4432
      @kennysboat4432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thank you for offering your perspective. It's always interesting to see what someone looking In sees. I think the SJWs are trying to find a place in society, because when they were young they didn't do anything to learn about what they want to do in life. For example for me as a younger student, I am trying to experience life, the social and biological sciences, and mechanics etc. I believe it's how you find something important to do in life.

    • @larsulrichvevo3196
      @larsulrichvevo3196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If only they knew what this meant about how self serving and their belief system is, but hey, I guess it's much easier to slander innocent people than to realize that you yourself might have been the problem all along.

    • @zephaniahdejene1746
      @zephaniahdejene1746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like to think the Social justice wars are just virtue signaling battle royals.
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @fallendown8828
      @fallendown8828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't sum it up better, btw i am in Turkey and i see everything you have talked about around me in less extream forms and i totally agree with you even if i consider myself centre right i have all the respect for ideologies that are not going to extream and being rational like we all should be

    • @kennyjohnson8055
      @kennyjohnson8055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “Other worse bad things happen so it’s stupid to want to fix the bad things that aren’t as bad”

  • @ZosKia523
    @ZosKia523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    I'm a left libertarian that really enjoys your channel. I've experienced social justice ire for being a "class reductionist". Our obsession with identity is dividing and destroying the working class. I'm to the point now....I don't care what a given person's politics are.....I care more about their intentions and ability to work with others....somethings gotta change

    • @justinsanchez6626
      @justinsanchez6626 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I wouldn’t consider yourself a left-wing libertarian then

    • @ZosKia523
      @ZosKia523 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@justinsanchez6626 if whittled down, my politics have become more pragmatic...we can agree to this...we bkth hate fascist and we both hate tankies...Otherwise, my leftist politics comes down workers rights and the promotion of workers organizations. I welcome critique.

    • @cancelled_user
      @cancelled_user ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ZosKia523 I would probably call myself a leftist too if it didn't include hate groups like feminists or "woke" who are openly blaming/hating on white people or hetero men, then 5 minutes later they deny that they are doing it. I've seen it so many times that I just can't pretend it's not a widespread phenomenon among them. Interestingly, I tend to agree with right wing commentators more, although I don't see myself as right wing. I'm not a traditionalist, not a nationalist or patriot, I'm pretty much anti-religious. So I don't like some things that are typical for right wing, I think I just like when they criticise leftists who seem to go too far. Also, if I ask, for example, what is my "white privilege" as a white immigrant in the UK, without an UK passport and with somewhat broken English and foreign accent, or alternatively, what is the "white privilege" in my home country where there is no black minority at all, not one single leftist "intellectual" ever answers. Allegedly because I'm dumb, or they are "too busy" or whatever excuse they come up with.
      Edit 2024:
      After looking into it a bit, I wouldn't mind being called a liberal (in a broader sense, not just how is it used in the US), but definitely not leftist or progressive.

    • @AnOriginalYouTuber
      @AnOriginalYouTuber ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Its so frustrating listening to these people. They want to control society under threat of force.

    • @ZosKia523
      @ZosKia523 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@AnOriginalTH-camr thats the thing with zealots in general...they serve ideologies when their ideologies should serve them. Once you start thinking about sacrificing others lives to it, you should find something newer and kinder to believe in.

  • @Sam-os5qh
    @Sam-os5qh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    Tertiary education is so common now that we need to redefine 'college educated'. It seems to me like there are a lot of degrees that could easily be replaced by a one or two year tertiary program or something similar to an apprenticeship. Additionally, I accidentally found myself in a social justice class during my engineering degree and trust me those people do not deserve the title.

    • @xerty5502
      @xerty5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As anoyed as i get at the right most of the time they do bot inherintaly scarr me most of the time they might ruin things thoigh wanton idiocey or pig headness but anyvone can do that even smartvpeople can go way to far in the bamr if aomething they belive is correct. The far left however is terrifying yes there movments are unlickly to last in the long tearm but the damage they can do in the short term with there disier to burn every thing down the accadumic elite has gone way to far in the bame of trying to sezie power and have surrenderd to much control ti the mob right biw they are doing a good job of leading the mob arround by the nise but that alweas fails in the end just hope we survive the mob inevitably slipping its lesh with out turning into authoritarians.

    • @traiforse5777
      @traiforse5777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I feel like after the quick growth of both the internet and social justice, there's been a new surge of more lenient (arguably bs) job titles. And degrees like Gender Studies are getting more popular for getting a comfortable job making Buzzfeed-like article or being an 'consultant/educator'. One of my favourite being "Gender Officer".
      But unlike English or Sociology, social justice is changing rapidly and at least recently, seems like they're determined by internet trends than actual established education. It's like if your English degree kept adding new internet slangs like bussin or drip into the curriculum.

    • @kazekagekid
      @kazekagekid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      bring back “secondary education” meaning high school, tbh, it’s ridiculous that a bachelor’s degree replaced the high school diploma. We have k-12 funded publicly for a reason, so no one has to go into debt to learn for a good job. Certificate jobs like engineer or doctor are obvious exceptions.

    • @xerty5502
      @xerty5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kazekagekid in general yes but are k-12 system has been gutted will take some pain to get it right again and we have lost several generations woth of time during its slide and now a whole one after its gutting we got a lot of work to do

    • @xerty5502
      @xerty5502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @_____ lol harsh o personal think some other degres that requier roufhly the same degree of specizaltion and learning could deserve it for example i gave bo problem with historians getting those titles the problem come on very nice and soft things like gender studies these from my personal point if view do not desrerve even a minor much less a major or hevens forbid a doctorate. You want to have a ckass for these fine i sappse yoi could have a class for any thing like maby an apraitiaon of "insert what ever term you want". I personaly think these are a waste but each to there own

  • @zephaniahdejene1746
    @zephaniahdejene1746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +769

    Social justice was dumb to me because in other parts of the world it's almost non-existent.
    Its seemingly a first world thing because less privileged people are just worrying about less ideological problems.

    • @katy2176-p3m
      @katy2176-p3m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      yes, because when people are able to have basic things like education, a home, money etc...they are then able to focus on things - weird to consider that "a privilege"

    • @zephaniahdejene1746
      @zephaniahdejene1746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@katy2176-p3m allow me to elaborate:
      What I meant to say is that people. Who has less idle time worry less about problems that are out of their reach that's all.

    • @benpearson49
      @benpearson49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      It's not even all the first-world. It's mostly just the anglo-sphere.

    • @chrisg4305
      @chrisg4305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@zephaniahdejene1746 don't bother trying to explain it to them. Their worldview depends on it

    • @shawnshazam1912
      @shawnshazam1912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That is a really bad relativist argument. That's like saying "oh in africa they kill children because they think they are possessed so stealing from my neighbour isn't even worth talking about."

  • @martinbaty1481
    @martinbaty1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    My university held an "investigation" of me when I said in a class discussion about American slavery .I spoke off the cuff (as I always do) and gave my head canon that since it was a time before Darwinian explanations for dark skin, that the belief that their was something inferior about Black people that was expressed in their skin colour (ex. Mormon teaching of the mark of Cain). I went through a gambit of professionals each one making what I said worse and worse until I got to the last one that said she heard that I said "Blacks are inferior" as if I personally thought that. I felt so insulted that anyone would say that I held that belief that I'm debating whether I should transfer to another uni or just drop out all together and just reenlist in the military.

    • @MarvelousSeven
      @MarvelousSeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Enlist young man. Enlist.

    • @theangrydweller1002
      @theangrydweller1002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      @@MarvelousSeven ya I’m sure fighting for them will be a much better idea

    • @TheDolphinTuna
      @TheDolphinTuna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      If you drop out, do it because you've changed your career plans, not because don't want to deal with annoying university administrators. A career lasts a lot longer than your stint in university.

    • @MarvelousSeven
      @MarvelousSeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@theangrydweller1002 show me where else you're going to get free education, free housing, health benefits, plus half pay and full medical benefits in retirement for the rest of your life? Stable employment and recession proof.

    • @theangrydweller1002
      @theangrydweller1002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@MarvelousSeven don’t act like it isn’t a big gamble especially now.

  • @conserva-chan2735
    @conserva-chan2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Being a Minneostan, it all hurts so much two years later after George Floyd. The Twin Cities are a husk of their former selves and the state's national reputation has been annihilated.

    • @trevinschaerr3732
      @trevinschaerr3732 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly you Minnesotans need to put those f***wads in the Twin Cities back in their place because they are ruining your state. Currently I’m very concerned about the two biggest cities in my state because they getting more and more ethnic every year (one of them is a “refugee” dumping ground) and I think we’ll end up like Minnesota and be held hostage by the ethnic inner city ghettos and their enablers.

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      May George Floyd rest in peace.... also, the fact that people are going psycho over one man's death eerily reminds me of how people acted in North korea after Kim Jong-Il's death, this is like tribalism

    • @makchot3263
      @makchot3263 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mrtrollnator123George Floyd was a literal criminal that points a gun at a pregnant woman 🤡

  • @YeahImNoble
    @YeahImNoble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +826

    I jumped out of my chair when I saw the title, got some snacks and started watching, I've been secretly wishing for this topic to be covered on here for so long, thank you WIAH!

    • @connor1734
      @connor1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same! Ive been loving the flood of content thia past week!

    • @lollllolll.
      @lollllolll. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah, this is a threat that is being pushed by the administrations world wide.
      But as an Albanian, watching these people try to push leftism here is quite hilarious it always goes down like this:
      Leftists: "Stop oppression"
      Farmers: "No"
      Leftists: "What do you mean by no?"
      Farmers: *Picks up axe*

    • @notphilosophical
      @notphilosophical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AQLV Explain how this would divide the U.S.

    • @wafflecone6968
      @wafflecone6968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was waiting for this ever since the future of ideology video came out.

    • @currahee
      @currahee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AQLV bruh i've encountered so many it's scary. you only realize it's a bot by talking to it

  • @SimpleReally
    @SimpleReally 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1639

    I'm laughing my ass off at the "HELP WE'RE STARVING" sign that also specifies "we need vegan food"

    • @EpicMRPancake
      @EpicMRPancake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Even as a vegan myself it's like 'You have greater priorities right now.' Then again, I don't know if many vegans would have the flexibility to make it work. It's probably for the best IMO, choosing vegan principles over a woke dumpster-fire fiefdom.

    • @prometheusjackson8787
      @prometheusjackson8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Some people need ti be starved

    • @pandoranbias1622
      @pandoranbias1622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Want to hear the best part? The person who sent that out is the head of a popular video game mod called The New Order for the game Hearts of Iron IV. The mod basically revolves around the Axis winning WWII. However the mod basically forces you to take the communist/progressive options or you get insane debuffs that make it impossible to win.

    • @EpicMRPancake
      @EpicMRPancake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@pandoranbias1622 I know that mod, damn I had no idea they were a dev. That's sad because I find TNO lore to be far more interesting than The Man in the High Castle. There are a lot of edgelords in the TNO community anyway.

    • @joenathan8059
      @joenathan8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What,no kosher?

  • @ValentineCorp
    @ValentineCorp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Class inequality is a way bigger issue than everything “social justice” aims at “fixing”

    • @IaMaPh1991
      @IaMaPh1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Indeed. If anything, so long as every demographic is able to make a decent salary and live comfortably, I'm pretty sure none of them will give a damn about what others think or say about them, because at the end of the day it ultinately wont matter.

    • @MrDVG-fe9ms
      @MrDVG-fe9ms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True there are some retards on their side, but the descriptions of for example racial inequality is mostly accurate. The speech policing does piss me off tho

    • @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
      @oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Social Justice has giving rights to all the marginalized people in society.
      Now it should focus on "fixing" the other broken and wrong cultures on Earth.

    • @johnriggio9781
      @johnriggio9781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Exactly I find myself arguing with fellow left leaning people over this. I say hey we should talk about how to create a more affordable health care system that benefits every individual as well as lowers our goverment costs instead of focusing on things like defunding police.
      Essentially advocating for universal action that empowers everyone rather than pandering to one groups specific issue.

    • @patriotenfield3276
      @patriotenfield3276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      to be more extent , the problem with Power sharing in the class .

  • @SonOfABitch777
    @SonOfABitch777 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    As someone who took part in several BLM protests (never participated in riots, but wasn't against them either), I now realize how stupid all of it was. I thought we were making a real difference, but that was never what was happening. Lives were lost, local businesses and homes destroyed, families torn apart. The rioters rarely ever even tried going after the people they considered responsible, almost exclusively targeting innocent people. At the end of it all, nothing real was accomplished. Some token street names were given and a couple founders of the "movement" became millionaires without giving so much as a cent back to their communities or those affected by police brutality. This tragedy was an overwhelming loss for absolutely everybody, even those who never picked a side.

    • @lurker993
      @lurker993 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I said from the beginning that even though I wouldn't support it, it'd still make more sense to me to attack the police, or any other branch of government. But no, that would mean actually risking your own health and life to force change for something you believe in.

    • @justasimpleguy7211
      @justasimpleguy7211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrice Culllors is a trained Marxist. She admits it. In fact I will say with a high degree of certainty all of the extreme left-wing activism is the result of Soviet era active measures.
      How ironic is it that the West will be brought down by a state (Soviet Union) that's now defunct. Of course I'd also bet China has been fueling the fire started by the Soviet Union.
      What's going to be funny not in a Ha-Ha way but poetic justice way is the people who planted the seed and tended the garden, i.e. academics, will be the first ones "purged" by the new regime just like Mao purged the Red Guard after they served their purpose.

    • @davidfereira5354
      @davidfereira5354 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lurker993 Leave the police alone. They protect you. Biting the giving hand.
      Police defundment and lesser punishments on criminals leads to higher levels of crime. Look at California. The trend of people stealing stuff for under $1,000.

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I think I finally understand why SJW art looks that way: it represents how they see the world. They try to simplify the world into little boxes, and simplify people’s identity too. Look at what’s present: the clothes they wear and their skin color. The former represents their cultural background, while the latter represents their race.
    Now, think about what’s absent: facial expression, personal qualities, and the like. SJW art looks that way on purpose: it represents the way SJWs see the world.

    • @danielwest6095
      @danielwest6095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Bruh that's a good observation

    • @ferrisbueller9991
      @ferrisbueller9991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Meanwhile Hitler was quite the painter.

    • @suyogv8235
      @suyogv8235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "SJW art" uh what?

    • @theologyphilosophyscience1978
      @theologyphilosophyscience1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Funny that it’s also very cartoonish, like its made on a child’s MS Paint document.

    • @dophhead2711
      @dophhead2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@suyogv8235 you know exactly what he meant, don’t be dense.

  • @OverkillGamingPC
    @OverkillGamingPC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    You'll be labelled a fascist for pointing out reasonable criticisms of social justice.

    • @OverkillGamingPC
      @OverkillGamingPC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @Leo the British-Filipino That's my point to be honest. Radical leftists cry wolf at moderate statements and figures. I just hope this doesn't diminish the response if or when genuinely abhorrent fascists start to appear. I think it's better to save outrage (to a degree) for when it's needed; in the face of real racism, fascism, communism etc.

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Leo the British-Filipino Funny how people who identity as leftists, in the modern political sphere, demonstrate more objective tenants of fascism than anyone on the right.

    • @zohar9971
      @zohar9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OverkillGamingPC Leftists after calling every single person and ideology a Fascist, nazi and a genocide so much that all these words lose meaning.

    • @hehexd4557
      @hehexd4557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Leo the British-Filipino one event in one city in Virginia vs every major metro center in the US. Not comparable. It’s funny that le charlottesville is the only thing leftoids have, because most of the normal people on the right have jobs and don’t have the time or desire to burn down their own cities.

    • @Tigo625
      @Tigo625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chico9805 They demonstrate authoritarianism, not fascism.

  • @cheesehead9555
    @cheesehead9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I love how Whatifalthist always used Lil Pump as the example of western society’s degeneration.

    • @rangercompany8222
      @rangercompany8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I meen his not wrong

    • @thecowboy2541
      @thecowboy2541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If western society is degrading what is it degrading from what point in time

    • @tommyrex6648
      @tommyrex6648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@thecowboy2541 You mean when did it start? I'd say in the 60's during the counter culture movements. That might not be what you're asking though lol sorry.

    • @greeneggsandhamsamiam6154
      @greeneggsandhamsamiam6154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      As much as I agree with what he says here, I do think it's funny that he's used lil pump, when he hasn't been relevant since around 2018

    • @saltMagic
      @saltMagic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@greeneggsandhamsamiam6154 I think its just being a picture on his computer and he's lazy about it. on all of his vids there regurgitated pictures and graphs

  • @bluedemon5672
    @bluedemon5672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    As a Mexican I must say, The social Justice movement blows my mind. However, I’m just living in my own little world. One where I keep working while everyone else freaks out and wastes their life away. I’ve embraced how absurd everything really is. Ya’ll can go fight, I’ll go get this bag.

    • @suzygirl1843
      @suzygirl1843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or you can look at it like "women are designed to receive". If most SJWs are raised by women then their ideologies would be to receive and be catered to than to work and earn their place as a men should. I think it's a SJW are children of Feminism. They want the benefits of staying at home like housewives but not produce the duties of a housewife

    • @codiwonkanobi9788
      @codiwonkanobi9788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm not so much concerned with the movement itself, as I am with who is actually funding it.

    • @ToyDirigible
      @ToyDirigible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You gotta do what's best for you and your family. Keep doing the lord's work. These idiots will extinct themselves within a few generations anyway.

    • @Elcabezon06onxbox
      @Elcabezon06onxbox ปีที่แล้ว

      this is so fax if other ppl of my generation keep believing this bs there’s gonna be less competition for jobs

    • @LaNina_DJ
      @LaNina_DJ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sick photo Mr. Demon!

  • @Maddie-ol5oc
    @Maddie-ol5oc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    As one of the 4% I’d love to see a video on modern feminism with historical context, and your thoughts on women’s roles throughout history

    • @pickleman2196
      @pickleman2196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I think this would be a great video idea id love something like this

    • @harunocaleon5786
      @harunocaleon5786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It will probably be "First wave good, second and third wave bad"

    • @Angl0sax0nknight
      @Angl0sax0nknight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Unfortunately, women have been the cause of a lot of society problems. No I’m not a woman hater but women see emotions more than logic. This has been damaging to society not only racial but between the sexes.

    • @harunocaleon5786
      @harunocaleon5786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      As it is typical of these conservacucks. Within a decade they will be talking about how the second wave feminism was actually good, then how the third was more civilized than the fourth and so on.

    • @carson1084
      @carson1084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@BeautifulGreen252 You sound insufferable

  • @piekay7285
    @piekay7285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    During the German 2021 election the Green party refused a candidate to run, because he was a man (he got the majority of votes from party members in his state). Just shows you how radical this movement can be

    • @northnorth7628
      @northnorth7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmfao that is hilarious

    • @piekay7285
      @piekay7285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@northnorth7628 fun fact: this lead to them not being able to run in the state, because they couldn’t provide a list of candidates in time

    • @lordhasen
      @lordhasen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@northnorth7628 And yet the election of 2021 was their biggest victory yet with nearly 15 % of parliament seats. The female candidate is now foreign minister and the guy is now vize chancellor.

    • @ironczar8975
      @ironczar8975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lordhasen yeah and both are absolute dipshits in their job. Baerbock (foreign minister) is a glorified housewife with a degree who isn't able to hold a fluent conversation in English without heavy accent and habeck(vice-chancellor) is a commie who looks like he drank a bottle of whiskey 2 hrs ago. Both aren't really great in their job and voters are already regretting their decisions.

    • @lordhasen
      @lordhasen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ironczar8975 I would wait for judge their performance in an year or 2. Two months is just not enough time to make an assessment.

  • @WoddCar
    @WoddCar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +299

    The fact that the people who do actual good by reforming are overshadowed by the social justice movement who riot and try to tear down structures of power unnecessarily and through violence is quite sad and I wish that more people would realize how that movement is not for equality at all

    • @theoheinrich529
      @theoheinrich529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The media of the Status Quo does that, as expected.

    • @chrisaustin9949
      @chrisaustin9949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Your close. People who do good, including people in the social justice movement who do good, are overshadowed by people rioting who really couldn't care less about social justice.

    • @theoheinrich529
      @theoheinrich529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@chrisaustin9949 Plus, they either get killed or have their movements get hijacked by the system.

    • @johnwolf2829
      @johnwolf2829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      IMHO, everything the media and now most Govt's say is designed to make everyone in the world hate everyone else.
      Divide and conquer.

    • @ZephLodwick
      @ZephLodwick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Social justice is what you get when the sea side town of modern society, which is racked with serious problems that a few reforms here and there aren't enough to fix, is threatened by a stormy sea of radicalism, so govt/business makes a series of channels control the wrathful waters in such a way that the flood won't threaten the town.
      This is why businesses have diversity depts while using third world slave labour.

  • @rubiaragagon7722
    @rubiaragagon7722 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’m a nuclear engineer and I approve Whatifalthist’s take on nuclear power. SL1 incident was due to pure disregard to safety, Chernobyl due to poor design and badly written procedures (along with complete incompetence, the operator’s shouldn’t lingered in the Intermediate Range of power for too long) ans Fukushima was due to poor design exacerbated by the tsunami). I’ve done research and experimentation when it comes to radiation protection. Turns out that anything we consume, the air we breathe and the soil we toil have some radioactive isotopes. Northern America (like in Maine or New Hampshire) has quite a bit of Radon (an alpha emitter that does more damage to the human body when ingested), walking outside exposes us to cosmic radiation. Smoking or chewing tobacco also has radioactive isotopes to it. Turns out that a human being receives roughly around 500mrem dose of exposure per year. It take around 100 rem of dose to do damage (10 rem would cause something akin to sunburn, 60-100 rem would cause gastrointestinal sickness and cataracts, prognosis gets worse as a person approaches 1000rem of exposure). The total I got when I worked at a nuclear power plant was between 25-50 mrem per quarter, and that depends whether or not I was just operating or actually doing major radiological work (like taking apart radioactive valves, or supporting replacement and calibrations of key components inside the reactor compartment).
    Additionally, we learned from the mistakes of our forebears. Nuclear Power Plant designers works with metallurgists, reactor protection designers, engineers and the like to ensure that a Chernobyl, 3 Mile, or Fukushima never happens. In fact, US nuke plants are overly designed that, unless it was intentional, it never blows up. I worked as a sailor in the US Navy’s nuclear program and it is literally impossible to blow it up (nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs are two different schools of thought with the word “nuclear” being the commonality).
    Nuke plants produce the least CO2 emissions and it’s as green as they come. Compare to say wind power which requires a larger real estate to produce something as comparable as nuke power. Or solar which produces so much waste just to create the solar with no way of recycling it. If society wants the best bang foe their buck, it’s nuke power. Too bad we demonize it. That’s the reason why I quit being a nuke engineer. The market for it is dying. I now work as a semiconductor tooling engineer now.
    Lastly if you are curious, I am a Filipino male that immigrated from the Isles to USA legally. I took that citizenship exam (which if you study the study guide, it’s hard to fail it). Joined the US Navy right after 9/11 as a nuke operator/mechanic/radiation protection dude for 20 years. Got my engineering degree while I was in (the worst, trying to write a term paper while deployed is not something I wish on anyone). Now I am retired, chose to work as a semiconductor tooling engineer because I was bored and I travel the world on corporate expense. It’s time that we as a society stop “deconstructing” our society and actually do something constructive. Like serve in the military for a term, or build a house, or do something. I am a man that builds things that makes the phones and computers you are using to watch this video today. Stop with this woke shit. It’s stupid and it is hurting our society in the long term.

  • @HalfTangible
    @HalfTangible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    "I don't think social justice will exist in 20 years."
    Most hopeful thing I've heard in a while.

    • @samg.5165
      @samg.5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I don't know how he came to that conclusion. Millennials and zoomers are, broadly speaking, social justice firebrands, and the oldest millennials have only just begun to assume positions of power within society. If the current trend holds, woke culture won't even have peaked yet 20 years from now.
      I'd give it at least 40 years before this madness finally dies down. This is the world we're going to live in, I'm afraid.

    • @HalfTangible
      @HalfTangible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@samg.5165 It's worth noting that the most recent generation became *more* conservative for the first time since WW2.
      He also points out in this video that the SJ crowd tends to eat itself alive, and doesn't really build anything of its own. Meaning that all it can really do is destroy and eventually burn itself out; either because the SJWs themselves realize their ideology doesn't work or just by making themselves irrelevant.
      Unlike the Bolsheviks, social justice didn't come into power through a revolution that through the old government aside; they took the reins of power and have been trying to steer it themselves since then. And while Lenin's ideology was ultimately nonsense, the Bolsheviks were motivated to build a new society and were largely successful. They didn't beat capitalism when it came down to brass tacks, but they did get a functioning government together.
      SJWs only managed to get an autonomous zone running for a few months because the mayor of a capitalist society felt bad for them. You think they can create a government?

    • @samg.5165
      @samg.5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@HalfTangible I've heard that a lot, but most data I've seen doesn't show zoomers being more conservative than millenials (quite the contrary). And even if they were, they're still far more left-leaning than all the previous generations.
      I'm not sure if the CHAZ should be used as an indication that so-called SJWs could never reach positions of power. Now it's not my intention to compare them to Hitler (as much as I dislike their ideology, they're not comparable), but the same clowns that carried out the poorly organized Beer Hall Putsch in 1923 were at the head of Germany 10 years later.
      People learn from their failures, especially as they grow older. The activists that were burning police cars in Seattle will be politicians in 20 years. I think it's mistake to assume they will remain as powerless and disorganized as they are now.

    • @TheBottlenose33
      @TheBottlenose33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Welfare will have run out by then which will usher in a new Mad Max/The Purge/Hunger Games era.

    • @tommyrex6648
      @tommyrex6648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@samg.5165 I do believe, at some point, the generation after Gen Z, that that generation will see the foolishness in gen Z and Millenials and actually become more conservative. As most generations do, they eventually will think their parents ways are uncool. At some point, the cycle will go the other way, hopefully and thankfully.

  • @tommyfishhouse8050
    @tommyfishhouse8050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +808

    The oldest bookstore in Minneapolis was burned down during these riots. One of the oldest bookstores in America. It was practically a historical landmark for the city.

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      Yeah, that one still hurts so much. If there will be a backlash to the woke and social justice, I will be happy to see it just to see the destruction of the ideology that led to the "summer of love" and all the innocents (RIP David Dorn) being killed, businesses being looted, monuments being desecrated and communities being destroyed.

    • @MatthewChenault
      @MatthewChenault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      They also burned down a part of the United Daughters of the Confederacy Headquarters, which, in the process, destroyed an irreplaceable relic of the American Civil War.
      This is why I called them “post-modernist barbarians.”

    • @syedrehanalikhan7677
      @syedrehanalikhan7677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@MatthewChenault you.... know that the UDC is a white supremacist organisation right?

    • @game_boyd1644
      @game_boyd1644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@MatthewChenault Actually, fuck the UDC, they deserve it

    • @daroostah8940
      @daroostah8940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@game_boyd1644 look some stupid commies. Bet you guys think you know what's best for people of color. Go burn down a Wal-greens you racist tools.

  • @wolfheartdarnell324
    @wolfheartdarnell324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +456

    You go far enough left you find a lot of us actually dislike the social justice movement. By making Identity more important than Class it makes trying to find a solution to problems impossible as everyone just ends up playing the oppression olympics.

    • @krunkle5136
      @krunkle5136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Wasn't Occupy Wall Street thrown off due to identity politics?
      It's depressing.

    • @georgecarlin2097
      @georgecarlin2097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I take it you are still young, as in under 30? I myself was a Marxist while in college (ivy league; although I majored in both business and law, I was somehow encouraged strongly in that direction). Somewhere around the 30 year mark I began my switch towards a more practical and well-rounded right-leaning classical liberal approach. Wisdom and knowledge will do that.
      We all want the same thing: what's best for everyone.

    • @scottoliv737
      @scottoliv737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Far left groups have a long history of hating each other over slight differences.

    • @scottanos9981
      @scottanos9981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So...you're a tankie?

    • @notzeb
      @notzeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ID pol has been co opted by the elite as a weapon for improvement. Ex Kamala Harris getting the VP position was entirely because of her race and gender, there were almost 0 genuine Harris supporters and she is one of the most disliked VPs of all time.

  • @dardedar88
    @dardedar88 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I lived about a mile away from CHAZ in Seattle. I walked there and took pictures, including a video of people jumping on the windshield of a car with a terrified young woman in the passenger seat. I was chased out for this. And then most of my friends and even family called me racist for posting the pictures online without any description, just what I saw and photographed. It's true I was not a supporter, but this shocked me. I invited the most vocal critic of me to go to CHAZ at night with me, who publicly agreed but privately canceled it. All the supporters I knew had been there during the day when it was more peaceful and so reasoned it was peaceful at night when they went home.

  • @ikonswagster8718
    @ikonswagster8718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +629

    The school I go to is extremely liberal. They practically teach us social justice and I can never wrap my head around it. Even when I was younger I realized how social justice makes no sense and how it always contradicts itself. It’s nice to see a video like this sense i can’t really be vocal on my opinions on this or I’ll be accused of being racist.

    • @BVonBuescher
      @BVonBuescher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      There are a lot of us out there man.

    • @donovanlocust1106
      @donovanlocust1106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BVonBuescher idiots?

    • @ikonswagster8718
      @ikonswagster8718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@donovanlocust1106 how are they idiots?

    • @DMO-DMO-DMO
      @DMO-DMO-DMO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@ikonswagster8718 because they can't wrap their heads around the concept of social justice? My 8 year old learned enough about MLK Jr at school to at least "wrap her head around it"

    • @ikonswagster8718
      @ikonswagster8718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DMO-DMO-DMO I can understand what social justice is trying to do but what I mean by “I can never wrap my head around it” is how a lot of there supporters try to force this narrative that makes no sense or tell you not to do one thing and they go ahead and do it. Like many supporters of social justice talk about how stereotyping people is bad but than many of there supporters on Twitter immediately stereotypes every republican voter as a white racist bigot. Or how many advocate against racism but then turn around and talk about how white people are the root of all evil.

  • @someoneiguess7789
    @someoneiguess7789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    This is why I love this channel explaining the things that most people won’t touch but with maturity and facts.

    • @marioruiz8978
      @marioruiz8978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He explains the video in a mature manner but u can constantly see his center right bias

    • @costasvas341
      @costasvas341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@marioruiz8978 That doesn't discredit his points though. You don't have to agree with him, just hear him out. Perhaps you can gain something from his different opinions.

    • @matts6816
      @matts6816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@marioruiz8978 He literally said at the start of the video his perspective. He is a lot more objective than any left winger on the topic and that's hands down.

    • @sethroberts3634
      @sethroberts3634 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @marioruiz8978
      @marioruiz8978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matts6816 I never denied that he didn’t say that in the beginning, but saying that everything he says is objective or factual kinda puts too much trust on a man who has no sources on his videos. I love this man’s content and I respect his political beliefs but saying that being politically objective is like saying when pigs fly. It just don’t make sense when political beliefs will always start w subjective feelings, and be built up by that

  • @quintustheophilus9550
    @quintustheophilus9550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +534

    "Strategically irrational" is a term I'll never forget.
    Great video btw!

    • @gwho
      @gwho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Intellectual vs pragmatic
      A
      Dichotomy that is ever-present in almost any debate

    • @idromano
      @idromano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gwho Really? I see "idealistic vs pragmatic". I never considered "intellectual" as an opposition to pragmatic... food for thought, thanks!

    • @honkyjesuseternal
      @honkyjesuseternal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      245 likes, 2 replies? Seems legit, like a person.

    • @8kuji
      @8kuji 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayyyy Nice PFP

    • @MH-be6hr
      @MH-be6hr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We see this consistently on the right, as well.
      When people become psychologically overinvested in a set of ideas that promise to deliver a necessary or worthy goal, they lose objectivity and rationality.

  • @joenichols3901
    @joenichols3901 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I can remember a bunch of stories from school with this rampant, ideological left thought. One story has stuck with me in particular.
    I was studying abroad in Ecuador. I was the only business student of 13 students, and there were only three males. We were in some completely poverty stricken tiny village in the mountains near a large forest area. Everyone else on the trip was a bio major. We were standing there and talking with the villagers and just going through the village. We reached a small banana plot (bananas are a big export there - this plot was maybe 25% of one football field - the forest was at least a couple thousand acres). I suddenly had quite the idea. I raised my hand and said "I know how this village can get out of poverty. They need to organize a business and begin creating larger banana plantations. They own the land here but receive no benefit - they could plant 100 of these plots over a few years and have a revenue source to raise them out of poverty". I kid you not, everyone looked at me as if I had recommended that they all sacrifice their first born children. The professor said "Joe, of course they should not do that, the whole reason we are here is to protect the forest". It was at that moment I nearly completely broke from the left ideology of the class and began realizing how easy it is to understand how people can justify treating other humans terribly. We are actively working to keep these people poor. And frankly, the forest there was nothing special. It was a bunch of trees and no large mammals.

    • @shadowofhawk55
      @shadowofhawk55 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That fucking sucks. Granted those people plausibly wouldn't pull themselves out of poverty, but they could plausibly improve their living conditions a little bit at the very least.

    • @FtheSoutofbears
      @FtheSoutofbears ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Your plan might work, but depending on the slope of the forest, that could lead to soil erosion, flooding, and increased risk of mudslides (all of which occurred in China and India after rapid agricultural growth). You also don't know how the locals use the forest - do they use it for cheap fuel and building supplies? Why hadn't the locals already thought about your plan? Maybe they had reasons to not remove the forest (bush meat, fruit, etc.). You've got the right idea though - you just want to diversify industries - agricultural, industrial, service and technology, so there's more investment in the community versus and less chance of monocrop failure

  • @Thepiggernator69
    @Thepiggernator69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Being moderately left wing and coming from a more socialist country than America, I was particularly hesitant watching this video, yet I would agree with majority of your critiques and arguments made

    • @joenathan8059
      @joenathan8059 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Word. The problem with watching anti social justice videos is that the person criticizing it tends to be someone like Sargon or Ben Shapiro.this video I feel is very good intentioned and not about pushing crazy alt right agendas

    • @JohnnyLouisXIX
      @JohnnyLouisXIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@joenathan8059 You think Ben Shapiro and Sargon are alt-right?

    • @kevinclydeeguia2543
      @kevinclydeeguia2543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JohnnyLouisXIX They push certain alt right ideas but they usually back off. Two steps forward and one step backward

    • @JohnnyLouisXIX
      @JohnnyLouisXIX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@kevinclydeeguia2543 So? Groups tends to share some ideals, Social Democracy obviously shares some beliefs with Socialism. Not to mention that Alt right groups are extremely anti-israel/antisemitic while Ben is one of the largest Jewish voices in the right, i don't even like him in fact i hate his guts pretty badly but labeling him as Alt-right is just dishonest.

    • @Charlie-wl2qt
      @Charlie-wl2qt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JohnnyLouisXIX Alt-right is not exclusively antisemitic. Just like you said, different groups have different ideas within them. Antisemitism is almost exclusively within Alt-right ideology, but it's not the entirety of the ideology.

  • @studentofhistory718
    @studentofhistory718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    This one is going to be nice friendly and ABSOLUTELY not controversial lol
    That being said "rational society" never existed

    • @iattacku2773
      @iattacku2773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Lol. I think everyone needs to accept the reality that no one is entirely rational

    • @studentofhistory718
      @studentofhistory718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@iattacku2773 most peoples beliefs are based on essentially feelings and then afterwards they rationalize it

    • @thelordz33
      @thelordz33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What a retarded take.

    • @shrekfanboy5446
      @shrekfanboy5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@thelordz33 humans are inherently irrational and emotion driven, therefore they are incapable of realistically creating a purely-reason based society. This is pretty basic. Take Thomas Jefferson and George Washington for example, fought to create a society based on self-evident truths of freedom and the right to live freely, yet openly owned hundreds of slaves. How can you reasonably justify the ideology they sprouted whilst also personally denying that freedom to hundreds? You can't, many (including themselves) acknowledged slavery as an evil institution and while you could make a case for why they couldn't abolish it at the time, you cannot justify their willful participation in it.
      Humans are inherently in a struggle between emotion and reason, neither a purely emotional or reasonable society has ever existed. Next time, make an argument instead of calling others arguments retarded in an emotionally charged-fashion, brainlet.

    • @psycho-analyticgamer7452
      @psycho-analyticgamer7452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shrekfanboy5446 Agreed
      The funny thing is that hyper-rationality also causes irrationality just look at the Romans and Greeks ;)

  • @rightsidecrossrev
    @rightsidecrossrev 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The Pendulum of governance is swinging further and further in each direction. I believe your fears of an authoritarian backlash may become a reality.
    As a white, Christian, gun-loving, homeschooling Father- I don’t want this country to devolve into and authoritarian nightmare, no matter how much it may pander to my personal ideologies on the way to its final dystopian evolution.

    • @Civilized-Joke
      @Civilized-Joke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The polarization is still growing. Something has got to give. Maybe not now but in 10 years...

    • @liambuchan4162
      @liambuchan4162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Learn to become self-sufficient. You will survive anything that comes after you become self-sufficient.

    • @greenmountainbrownie6473
      @greenmountainbrownie6473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We need a Paleo-Conservative Christian Monarchy to be honest. We need morals and we need leaders who don't think in 4-year election cycles. Abolish the House of Representatives and replace the Senate with a House of Peers, in which people with military backgrounds serve for life. Replace the governors with Dukes. Only allow property owners and military veterans to vote on local and Duchy (formerly "state") level, no elections on national level. The Duchy Senates and Dukes would nominate 2 life peers and seek approval from the monarch in doing so. Establish the "Church of America" as the official state religion.

    • @greenmountainbrownie6473
      @greenmountainbrownie6473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Truck Man Liberal Democracy is new and doesn't work. Liberal Democracy is a cancer and false idol. For the vast majority of Western history we have lived under Christian monarchies.
      Our democracy is a myth. Read elite theory. Read the books of people like James Burnham, Paul Gottfried, Gaetano Mosca, Vilfredo Pareto and Polybius.
      Abandon the "Boomer Truth Regime".

    • @greenmountainbrownie6473
      @greenmountainbrownie6473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Truck Man You are a fool

  • @eibura5978
    @eibura5978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    watching videos like this makes me realize that most people around me are far removed from reality
    because they wouldn't even take the time time to review content like this and it makes me feel
    helplessly alone

    • @DezuFuck
      @DezuFuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're all alone

    • @ToyDirigible
      @ToyDirigible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@DezuFuck We're all alone together. Go to the gym, work harder at your job, be the best person you can be. It's all we can do to survive what's going to be a rough century for everyone.

    • @DezuFuck
      @DezuFuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToyDirigible I'm tired of life at this point. All of this just to die. It doesn't matter, I might as well end my miserable existence to spare myself from more pain

    • @magicboxhead9448
      @magicboxhead9448 ปีที่แล้ว

      @distraction503 Then tell them they are more closed minded then a “bigoted cis-gender white male” or something similar

    • @justasimpleguy7211
      @justasimpleguy7211 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ToyDirigible We're most likely in for a Westernized version of Mao's Cultural Revolution. In fact it's well underway and I doubt it can be easily turned back especially once AI is fully deployed in support of it. And yes, AI is Woke as it's being developed by Woke companies.

  • @samchiu9918
    @samchiu9918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    I used to identify as a SJW, until I began to question it. I spiraled into an identity crisis and briefly became fascist despite being a Sino (It's over now, relax.).
    So yeah, I think that Whatifalthist's predictions are right. (No pun intended.)

  • @jonasfischer878
    @jonasfischer878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +739

    From a European POV: American problem, don't want to know, but our youth (at least in the well developed cities) also like these ideas (and I give them that; being young and full of energy and being confronted with a globalised world full of problems they want to change sth, it is been the youths privilege since I can remember), and if they have a brain and are willing to learn how the world works they'll outgrow that phase. What worries me more are big corporates trying to trick people (especially young folks) into buying stuff with help of SJ (I mean: 1940's BMW ad had a swastika in its logo, now it's the rainbow, what do they have in common? They wanna earn money, nothing else)

    • @cdemr
      @cdemr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      On the other hand, bunch of young europeans are falling in the hands of the weird european far right, which make them believe that the SJW are in control of the whole society alledgedly on the verge of collapsing. This is such a scrimpy way to view ideologies considering that politics are so much more broader than that. This polarization of ideas with the far-left VS the far-right triggers the election of different extreme political parties in power, risking geopolitical instabilities and a future crisis that I would like to avoid please.

    • @Emerald_Forge
      @Emerald_Forge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Honestly I'm not too worried, basically only university students become warriors and at that they're way tamer and I really doubt we'll ever see any close to the BLM riots/protests any time soon. Plus in many European countries the far right is having a much more successful time rights now than the far left and sometimes even the centre left.

    • @araaraaura1887
      @araaraaura1887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      All of this stems from French philosophers, so it's very much a western problem, not just an American one. The sentiment you express about them "growing out of it" is exactly what people in the US said to me when I started pointing this stuff out 12 years ago. Now those college kids with crazy ideas are running all of our major institutions and still holding to this toxic ideology.

    • @Wojjjie
      @Wojjjie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You think corporations are pro leftist movement? Social justice crowd actively is against them
      You mean they support social justice by having black people in their adds and doing some virtue signalling? I think that by people's standards i am in "social justice crowd" and we absolutely hate what corporations attempt to appear as
      Also people in cities are more left wing becouse of better access to eduction, as it always was in history

    • @Shagamaw-100
      @Shagamaw-100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As bad as SJWs are, at least America doesn't have declining birth rates.

  • @soguksonbahar838
    @soguksonbahar838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This movement tries to just bring back everything that the west is fighting against.
    Also fun fact im a Turkish nationalist dating an SJW and I think you can imagine how our conversations on social justice go

    • @highqualityimage8776
      @highqualityimage8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oh God do you deny the Armenian Genocide as well.

    • @MultiNacho8
      @MultiNacho8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@highqualityimage8776 Holy reach, batman!

    • @highqualityimage8776
      @highqualityimage8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MultiNacho8 It isn't a reach, it's a question, also most Turkish nationalists deny the Armenian genocide, so I'm just asking him if he denies it. Let me ask you a question. How is me asking a question a ''reach''?

    • @masterm8664
      @masterm8664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@highqualityimage8776 It's a reach in terms of you asking the question in way that skews to the assumption in the undesirable answer. You ask it with "Do you deny the Armenian Genocide as well?". With emphasis with using "do you deny" accompanied with "as well". Which makes it seem that you already answered the question without even waiting for his answer, which you assume is that he denies such atrocity. Might I suggest you word your question as such, "What do you think of the Armenian genocide?". And no, identifying as part of a group does not necessarily mean you believe every single stereotype that group is "supposed" to portray. The OP being a Turk nationalist does not immediately entail that he/she believes everything a turk nationalist might naturally (or more accurately, stereotypically) align with. People are complex in terms of having different beliefs for every single subject. Also, two people aligning on more than two beliefs does not mean they align with each other perfectly. So, yes it's a reach when you break it down.
      PS: He might DO deny that the AG happened but he has not answered yet so we must assume that he does not until he answers. And he does so deny it, then that is a terrible thing to believe.

    • @flamestoyershadowkill6400
      @flamestoyershadowkill6400 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highqualityimage8776 and greek genoocide?

  • @dylanbuchanan6511
    @dylanbuchanan6511 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “Thank-you George Floyd for sacrificing yourself.”
    -Nancy Pelosi

  • @thecalmbro
    @thecalmbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Just wanted to say I'm very impressed with the rate at which you're putting these videos out, Even if I don't always 100% agree they're very thought-provoking and much better than your earlier work keep it up man!

    • @PaulColclough47
      @PaulColclough47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's not hard to be as prolific as he is when you're satisfied with terrible production value. Seriously, I subscribe to over 100 channels and this one has the worst production quality by a very wide margin.

    • @TeltaMan
      @TeltaMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@PaulColclough47 someone had differing political opinions, huh?

    • @jorixonian
      @jorixonian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@PaulColclough47 I think I originally subbed to this channel 3 years ago 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 the production wasn't incredible, he seemed the kind of person to value quality of information as opposed to quality of production. But I do agree the video production is quite bad, it might as well be a radio show with some graphs and pictures swapped out every 15 seconds.

    • @PaulColclough47
      @PaulColclough47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@TeltaMan, so smug and yet so wrong. Just because I'm criticising the production value, doesn't mean I disagree.
      In fact, I actually agree with 95% of the video. But because I'm capable of rational thought and putting aside my personal biases, I have the capacity to appraise the content and production value separately.
      That rational thinking is very much in the spirit of WhatIfAltHist videos.

    • @PaulColclough47
      @PaulColclough47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@jorixonian, don't get me wrong. I'm still a subscriber after all. I appreciate that he's prioritising frequency over quality. Flashy videos take a lot of time.
      However, I think a small amount of time could go a long way. For example, this video had at least half a dozen spelling and grammar mistakes. It's clear he's typing directly into the video editor and not passing the text through a spell checker. That would take seconds and instantly make his videos far more professional.

  • @deepvoicedude4749
    @deepvoicedude4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The comment section is going to be a massive shitshow.

  • @johjoh1203
    @johjoh1203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    "What provoked an otherwise rational society in this manner?" The answer is that we are not an otherwise rational society. The state of our civilization is irrational and thus behaves in irrational and self destructive ways.

  • @phoebesekine4783
    @phoebesekine4783 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ive been saying this for so long!! People who claim America is a shitty place to live and a “3rd world country” dont realize how arrogant and self centered they sound bc they have never experienced real problems.

    • @areuarealman7269
      @areuarealman7269 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some places in America are a shitty place too live though honestly I mean if someone said live here or a deletion clinic I'd go too the deletion clinic .

    • @ottomanpapyrus9365
      @ottomanpapyrus9365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that's true. It's an industrailized 3rd World country

    • @phoebesekine4783
      @phoebesekine4783 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@areuarealman7269 i shouldnt have overgeneralized american’s situations like that. Still, acting like we have it even close to the worst off in the world is senseless

    • @phoebesekine4783
      @phoebesekine4783 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ottomanpapyrus9365 once again, acting like america’s problems are even close to as bad as a third world country’s is ludicrous

    • @ottomanpapyrus9365
      @ottomanpapyrus9365 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phoebesekine4783 Ur right... I suppose america's worse

  • @Dover78
    @Dover78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    What you said about how dangerous the eventual reaction against social justice culture could be is something I’ve been trying to tell people for a couple years now. This general aggression towards white people is instilling race consciousness in the white population.
    That might sound good in theory but, in practice, we DO NOT want white people to tribalize around their race. We ESPECIALLY don’t want them to tribalize AND feel that the tribe is under attack because, at some point, the white guilt will run out and we’ll be left with a very large and very angry group of people now united by a common enemy.

    • @prometheusjackson8787
      @prometheusjackson8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Good

    • @caiden5855
      @caiden5855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Yeah we DEFINITELY don't want that!

    • @Silver_-_SunS
      @Silver_-_SunS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Can't wait for the boog. I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't, I really do, but I want it.
      I want it so bad.

    • @pointlesspublishing5351
      @pointlesspublishing5351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      And a dude from Austria with a moustache will say: "I am back, bois." - and the SJW will have to be blamed for it.

    • @pleaseenteranamelol711
      @pleaseenteranamelol711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank god. We will cleanse the earth. Billions will die in the worst ways possible. We will commit atrocities that would make hítler puke. THE TIME HAS COME!!!
      NUCLEAR ANNIHILATION!!!

  • @PASTRAMIKick
    @PASTRAMIKick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    What's even more cringe is that this particular American brand of Social Justice is being exported into other countries and certain movements are solely based on an American Historical context that is exclusive to the US and nonsensical elsewhere, but people in other countries try to apply it to their own regardless of the lack of social struggle or historical context.

    • @froniccruxis1049
      @froniccruxis1049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yup you see it a lot with western Europe, which creates interesting articles such as French people warning about progressive American ideas. Like that is a just a bonkers world to me.
      I also have seen american hispanic people in some social media groups adopting these ideas. Though that is surely a minority, it is bonkers to see people in or from poor countries raging on white people.

    • @prometheusjackson8787
      @prometheusjackson8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@froniccruxis1049 because it's not social justice, it's anti-whiteness

    • @highbahamut6188
      @highbahamut6188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yeah here in Brazil we have an huge feminist and lmao+(you can guest who i'm talking about) infestation

    • @die_lokki287
      @die_lokki287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can confirm, we have those freaks here in Russia. They protect black people from "cultural appropriation" and cosplayers. And say a lot of stuff about feminism, despite the fact that Russia is a post-feminist country

    • @macmurfy2jka
      @macmurfy2jka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@die_lokki287 wait hold up!? Post Feminism? Please explain. What is that like? Is it misogynistic like Rudyard’s suggestion? Or is it just leery of mysandrist viewpoints? Is the history of this tied to the rise and fall of the Soviet Union? I am fascinated.

  • @shanestevens5352
    @shanestevens5352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I live near Seattle and I have friends who lived in the area that was CHAZ. They moved entirely for their safety. They were refugees in one from one of the wealthiest cities in the country and they were relocated less than 15 miles away. 2020 was wild

  • @birdman9632
    @birdman9632 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Great video. I ended up taking a Latin American studies class at my college. I ended up hating it so much as a second generation Mexican American It felt like the class was just oppression Olympics and very Americanized concepts. I Remeber my friends in that class that were straight from Latin America being very confused and not understanding and disliking the class a lot since these ideas were very ridiculous to them. I had difficulty explaining the things even to my parents. It wasn’t intellectual it was just basically saying white people are bad. I hate critical race theory and these social justice ideas. It’s all very fake intellectual. One thing I should mention too is I find it very weird how many Latin Americans in the United States obsess over our indiginous side. One of the things I found weird in school was how everything that the indiginous Mexicans did was considered amazing or great and that mestizo culture was never embraced or considered something to be proud of even tho the whole class was mostly mestizo or culturally that.

  • @futurologygamerhub1956
    @futurologygamerhub1956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Social justice is doing more harm than good.

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Explain what of the video make you say that in the most polite civilized way. Only way to fight the eventual chaos of the comment section

  • @okin_rezresua1715
    @okin_rezresua1715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    "We need more food to keep the area operational. Please if possible bring vegan meat substitutes, fruits, oats, soy products, etc. - anything to help us eat"
    ah, perfect. You cannot make that s*** up :D

    • @sparrow5407
      @sparrow5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes, marxism only survive by leeching off other people's resources.

  • @ComicalRealm
    @ComicalRealm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    “Justice without force is powerless; force without justice is tyrannical” ~ Professor Dumbledore

    • @ankitaharwal5886
      @ankitaharwal5886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This explains SJW and communists. LOL

  • @jdsmith556
    @jdsmith556 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When there’s food on the table there are countless problems. When there’s no food on the table, there’s only one problem.

  • @kadankreativ5368
    @kadankreativ5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Something i realise more and more is, that I was in this bubble for a short time but it spit me out a coupple of minutes later. I was on a fridays for future demonstsration and talked about such things. As i know something about history i then was offendet by an anouncment that all persons with dread locks should cover them because they are not black. I said this is wrong and puff i was like a racist. I‘m from germany btw so we are not as crazy like in the us with social justice, but this event struck me back into reality and to my believes i had even longer ago. Great Essay Video.

    • @einbenutzenderbenutzer
      @einbenutzenderbenutzer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wo warst du bei FFF? Berlin und Hamburg sind krasser drauf als anderswo, darum frag ich

    • @ryuzakikun96
      @ryuzakikun96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Germany is one of the most feckless countries in the world when it comes to social justice and leftwing pipe dreams. Just look at your new chancellor.

    • @kadankreativ5368
      @kadankreativ5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ryuzakikun96 our chancellor is very moderate he just could be merkel again.

    • @kadankreativ5368
      @kadankreativ5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@einbenutzenderbenutzer Nur Stuttgart. Ich will mir garnicht überlegen wie des dann in Berlin und Hamburg war.

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is the harsh nature of the progressive and woke movement. They are just this era's version of the marxists and communist cults. They crave control and collectivism. the moment you have any dissenting opinion, you are ostracized and vilified and even attacked outright. I am black and was never part of them and whenever I countered many of their tenets, like the stupid cultural appropriation thing or the black victimhood mentality, I was immediately labelled a white supremacist or "not-a real-black-person" I stopped caring what they think a long time ago and these movements always end up self-destructing but doing real harm to society before that.

  • @yungcashew3891
    @yungcashew3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    You should take that debate with vaush

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Vaush challenged him?
      He is known to not argue in good faith, and Vaush even said himself that the truth doesn't matter to him, he only cares about winning. There is a video of him saying this. So it would have to be with a fair Moderator approved by both sides.
      Still, Second Thought is much, much less of an arsehole & would be more of a truth seeker i think.
      All i have ever seen of Vaush is him being toxic or abusive & rageful, so that means i don't care to listen to him further. I don't let myself do that to others either. Second Thought is the Marxist I listen to because he isn't really a toxic person & at least seems to sometimes TRY to be fair in making his case & see things from other views a little. i share some of his values, so maybe i am a bit biased hmm.

    • @yungcashew3891
      @yungcashew3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@pebblepod30 vaush is a livestreamer second thought is not. I guarantee if second thought had to sit in front of a camera for 7 hours a day he would also say some dumb shit that people would clip into an out of context compilation and make it out to be all the guy is

    • @ianfisher5534
      @ianfisher5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pebblepod30 Second thought I’d probably a covert tankie at this point.

    • @yungcashew3891
      @yungcashew3891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ianfisher5534 don't be a dipshit crying tankie. He's fine.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianfisher5534 I looked up that term, he is not one of them, he does call himself "marxist" though, but more the basic way Marx meant it & analyzed it (workers owning means of production by Co-op; problems with Capitalist class ruling everyone else).
      I don't think he is "woke" or racist like that, maybe a bit unaware about what the average conservative wants or stands for.
      I don't agree with him on some things, but i try to look at different views.
      I think he is basically right about Capitalism & "Corporate Fascism" as i would call it.

  • @TheAdamantineMetaphysicist
    @TheAdamantineMetaphysicist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    There's another reason that social justice appeals to people: it offers people an easy way to assign blame, and have a false feeling of moral superiority in doing so. It gives people a group to hate, and an easy way to feel that they're on the right side. I suspect this is why so many people who don't stand to benefit materially from social justice (i.e. "privileged" people) believe in the ideology.

    • @Kekktye
      @Kekktye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This framing is so incredibly simplistic. As a "straight, white and middle class male", no. While there are certainly people in leftist movements that function that way, be a little charitable. Most people follow movements that they believe describe truth.
      I could easily flip this and say anti-SJW people refuse to honestly listen to leftist arguments because they feel and were told leftists assign blame and superiority.
      Hell, this isn't even the case the majority of times. A lot of good, non-simplistic feminist analysis explains problems with male isolation, problems in the dating market against men and social development issues. Issues that arise with white people, straight people and gender conforming people are all explained non-accusingly and empathetically in well-constructed and researched content as well. I didn't know this until I stopped watching anti-SJW shit, because there's a narrative. "Those evil leftists hate straight white men, can't explain your issues and are out to get your culture."
      Sure, there are the stereotypical "big red" types, only here to flaunt their oppression for aesthetic. Getting all your exposure to leftist arguments from the worst in the movement on Twitter is horribly narrow-minded though. This is by design.
      There is a reason nearly everyone in the anti-SJW movement refuses to even talk to leftist voices on TH-cam now. There is a reason the biggest moral outrage in those communities doesn't have to do with content creators making well crafted arguments in favor of social justice movements, it has to do with a woman in Star Wars or an M&M or a shitty take on Twitter.

    • @shoeby9273
      @shoeby9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You can foot this bill on any political ideology. What you described is dogmatism. Social justice isn't an ideology, but it is weaponized by ideologies.

    • @shoeby9273
      @shoeby9273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kekktye As someone from the opposite side of the fence I appreciate you being able to be pragmatic and see reason. I think it''s quite obvious when someone is absolutely absorbed by their politics when they attribute generic extremist psychology to "the Left", whatever "the Left" even means. This is where we lead down the insane "liberal communists" McCarthyism rabbit hole that we find ourselves in.

    • @fsdfgasgfisd
      @fsdfgasgfisd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Kekktye Exactly, The rhetoric used in this video and by other commentators is simply alt-right. But, I'm here to listen and observe others viewpoints. People like the one you replied to, will eventually, if not already, fall into the rabbit hole.

    • @honkyjesuseternal
      @honkyjesuseternal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems like you assigning blame easily yourself, Adam. People wanting a better life offends you?

  • @bradblagg2263
    @bradblagg2263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Your higher than room temp IQ has gained you another subscriber. Thank you for your intellectual contribution to society.

  • @zohar9971
    @zohar9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Everyone gonna whine about how "controversial" this is, but facts are his viewers's demographics basically all agree with it, so basically preaching to the choir lmao.

    • @grayrook2406
      @grayrook2406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      maybe, maybe not.

    • @RickDrift
      @RickDrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      This is the first time ive seen him cover anything this political. The only demographic here is history buffs.

    • @Michelle_Wellbeck
      @Michelle_Wellbeck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@RickDrift His viewpoints on history are pretty much all conservative tho

    • @tylerdordon99
      @tylerdordon99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Michelle_Wellbeck that's because progressive views on history are bs

    • @northnorth7628
      @northnorth7628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@RickDrift He's got an obvious USA right-wing tilt. It's honestly funny listening to him talk about a lot of topics but I don't live in an echo chamber of what I believe.

  • @visionaryhera
    @visionaryhera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    As someone who lurks in the left the recent drama between Professor Flowers and Vaush highlights what you’re saying so we’ll. I don’t agree with everything you’re saying but damn this whole Social Justice stuff and identity politics can be pretty darn idiotic and I agree that it’s become this sort of religion through which people see the entire world and judge totally unrelated topics.

    • @dangeristh33
      @dangeristh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you follow Vaush for his ideas. you should really be against 90% of what he says. This entire video was a fundamental misunderstanding of racism and social advocacy. As a lefty this video infuriated me not because I’m not annoyed by wokescolds. But mainly this half assed attempt to discredit everything they say. Don’t let those tankie weirdos make you think this guys arguments are in anyway valid

    • @alted2749
      @alted2749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dangeristh33 Could you elaborate which points you disagree with and why? I lean left most of the time and i agree with most of what he's saying so im curious what you disagree with.

    • @dangeristh33
      @dangeristh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alted2749 First thing I can think of is saying gender abolition is anti feminist, but gender abolition seeks to undo gender roles which is one of the major problems sited by modern feminism. He also think feminism applies only to women but feminism is actually for both genders.
      I'm pretty sure he said that racial groups can't be disadvantaged because asian people are doing well? which is like really weird. Right now a lot of the Chinese and South Koreans are sending their kids to school here and that takes a lot of money. So they're sending over their richest people. Also there's a lot of poorer Asian nationalities that aren't doing nearly as well. In contrast black people have had to deal with red lining, share cropping. There are also places like Gary, Indiana where white people just left with their factories and jobs after a black power mayor got elected. Also poor neighborhoods get terrible education. In my state, a school in a major city couldn't get a single science teacher.
      The biggest problem with this video is that it's just kind of rambling which doesn't treat these ideas with the respect they need to make a valid criticism of them. I would have to write a book to debunk everything I don't like about this because of how many points he just says lmao.

    • @visionaryhera
      @visionaryhera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@dangeristh33 I *don't* think alot of his points are valid.... I... explicitly said that? This dude's worldview is fundamentally different from my own, in more ways than just politics. Here's an idea: listen to what someone is saying and actually consider it in good faith, and then weigh how true it really is - how much it accurately describes our reality - as critically as possible.
      And unfortunately if anything the drama I was talking about proved how in fact a SIGNIFICANT portion of the left is totally off the deep end and will defend, or at least shrug and ignore the possibility of actual genocide if it's done by the right race. It's not just a few people, it's practically a quarter or so from my understanding.

    • @dangeristh33
      @dangeristh33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@visionaryhera c’mon bro this is as bad faith as it gets. He’s just rambling almost incoherently while under the guise of ‘data’. He did the 1350 argument, he said minorities can’t be disadvantaged because Asians are doing well? He doesn’t give a concrete definition of social justice. It’s just what ever he’s mad at. He represented the fake idea of white washed, colorblind MLK. He said social justice was literally Satan lmao. I really don’t think you can have a good faith argument if you unironically call an idea Satan. He just throws shit at the wall too. Like most of the ideas he spends a sentence or two on could take a 5 minute video to critic.
      I didn’t watch this video to hate on this guy. I watched a few of his old history videos before I watched this one and thought they were pretty good. I wanted this guy to at least have good criticisms because I liked his other videos. I thought he would at least attempt to have some good ideas or talk in good faith. Especially since he does HISTORY. But when I watched this I was just appalled by how bad a take could be. I feel like this guy needed 45 minutes to vent out his frustrations with SJWs not make a compelling argument.

  • @harrisonshone7769
    @harrisonshone7769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    I would mention a few more things:
    1) Social Justice has a lot in common with Puritanism, probably more so than McCarthyism in that it’s primarily a cultural movement that started outside the government rather than a movement within the government and it is concerned with purifying society morally despite rather than through the instruments of the state. That is how Puritanism started out in England. Both also call for the reform / overhaul of culture and believe they oppose an all encompassing all evil force (the papists/Satan or the patriarchy). Both think that sexual promiscuity leads to rape. Both divide society into the elect and the damned, for whom there is no hope of salvation regardless of anything they do.
    2) the Republican / libertarian leaning business class is embracing social justice, but not as a matter of true conviction. It’s just a cheap way to make money by pretending to care. Disney, Starbucks and Amazon don’t actually care about LGBT or black people, they just want money. And by acting socially lefty they can avoid criticism for abusing their employees and suppressing unions.
    3) Racism on an individual level is treated as though it is just as bad as racism on a systemic or societal level, which it demonstrably isn’t. Black people being locked up by the tens of thousands for prison labor because they were caught with pot is not comparable with one random person using a microsgression in an elevator. Focusing on what ‘you’ can do to stop racism by using different terminology won’t do shit if larger structural issues, which do exist, are ignored. (This is actually the same thing BP came up with for the carbon footprint, convincing people that they could help the environment by making tiny decisions while the governments and companies responsible for most of the pollution don’t change).
    4) MLK was a socialist, and the civil rights movement included a lot of radical elements. These elements weren’t very successful because they tended to resort to violence instead of civil disobedience and ended up getting swept under the rug by the Nixon-Reagan backlash (the US has NEVER been a society that is prone to radical and sudden change. Even the American Revolution was tame compared to France, Russia, Iran and Haiti).

    • @lancevance5907
      @lancevance5907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you have any books I could read about that whole MLK thing?

    • @MikeAyye
      @MikeAyye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was actually an interesting read

    • @TheDopestOfShit
      @TheDopestOfShit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lancevance5907 his autobiography is a good start. Taylor Branch has a monstrously sized 3 part series called America in the King Years that is truly comprehensive.

    • @theodoremccarthy4438
      @theodoremccarthy4438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Republican / Libertarian business class aren’t part of Disney, Starbucks, and Amazon. They are small business entrepreneurs. Big Business in America has been taken over by the woke due to their insistence on hiring only from prestigious universities which have been co-opted by social justice ideologies.

    • @riley_oneill
      @riley_oneill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I don't think the SJW people really care all that much about LBGT rights of the rights of ethnic minorities. Those are just means to an end. The end is political power. When people in the LBGT community or ethnic minorities step out of line they can get the full wrath of cancel culture.

  • @giovannigiorgio831
    @giovannigiorgio831 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Social justice always speaks about “dismantling” and “deconstructing,” never anything actually constructive.

    • @gamer1X12
      @gamer1X12 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The always deconstruct, they never reconstruct. You're actually quite close to a very profound philosophical point. Ill spare you the essay and years of book-reading, TLDR, the core of all post modern thought and (most) abstract art is nihilism. It always, always come back to nihilism. It is an external projection of a deep desire to be unalive.

  • @camerondoyle29
    @camerondoyle29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    based whatifalthist. i know that this subject is very touchy and has the potential to get you canceled but i appreciate you speaking about this because many people dont. the riots we saw in 2020 are almost never talked about and the fact that people put it in a good light is very bad. thank you for making a genuine video like this instead of just following the incorrect left wing propaganda

    • @seanpayne2470
      @seanpayne2470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      biased* i agree tho

    • @zachabsher8546
      @zachabsher8546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Literally talked about all the time
      Being talked about rn lmao

    • @aaronmayne6138
      @aaronmayne6138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Wow look at us talking about how brave it is to post something that challenges the media. It's almost like we're living in an authoritarian regime.

    • @chico9805
      @chico9805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@aaronmayne6138 We do, and the two clowns above your comment are enablers of said regime.

    • @MisterPyOne
      @MisterPyOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Cancel culture is just insane, but I don't think he will be cancelled (although idk how that works)

  • @tomasroberts2016
    @tomasroberts2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    As a lower-middle-class leftist I can definitely vouch these people don't give a shit about economic class. When I went to university is baffled by my leftist peers as they seem to have no notion of poverty at all. When I pointed out to them that they clearly couldn't have had come from too hard a background by virtue of the fact they were studing the arts and humanities, a luxury I was not afforded as I had to go into STEM because at the end of my education I need to get a job to feed my family, they would be pissed as all hell.
    They also showed a clear failure to understand the economic necessity of some people doing things like joining the police given that for some people in a deprived town that can be the only well paying job .
    Moreover when they would start to larp as members the working class and denounce the middle class in broad terms, they would be furious when I'd point out there's nothing more middle-class than self-loathing.
    They all wear without fail upper-middle-class grammar/private school losers.
    I could really go on this indefinitely. But the one thing I learned from them there is a growing divide in the middle class to the point I don't think it even make sense to be categorised as the same.v

    • @emilv.3693
      @emilv.3693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The middle class is fighting amongst itself, the upper class is making bank as usual, and the lower class wondering what'll happen next

    • @aaronrothwell6504
      @aaronrothwell6504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You dont need to be rich to study the arts in college.

    • @tomasroberts2016
      @tomasroberts2016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emilv.3693 JJ McCullough described this quite well in one of his videos, but the middle class has become so large that it has become a class of classes.

    • @joeshmoe5169
      @joeshmoe5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "There's nothing more middle class than self-loathing."
      Oof. I felt that bubby. 😪 😔

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "So you're going into arts and humanities? How is that going to pay your bills?"
      REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @Makem12
    @Makem12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +345

    I never understood the body positive movement (or whatever it's called now). I understand that one example of a woman with a genetic issue, that isn't common, that causes her to be overweight and unable to effectively reduce it. But what about the 99.9% of the other cases of women and men who aren't morbidly obese?

    • @brotherjay4614
      @brotherjay4614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Body positivity is just a result of America’s obese problem

    • @MD0K
      @MD0K 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think the movement ideally tries to get people to understand the complexity of fatness but as with any movement now a days, people just use the most convenient shorthand to gain woke points instead of like actually doing activism. tldr: truth of the movement is fatness complex have compassion, tweetable movement for woke points fat also hot now you're the worst if you think otherwise

    • @YouScareMe1
      @YouScareMe1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Body Positivity started out as a movement for overweight/underweight people to be happy with themselves and that other people still treat them with respect.
      I still say it's mostly that but now there's a significant amount of people that are pro-fat and don't want to lose weight or people attacking underweight people.

    • @spaghettimkay5795
      @spaghettimkay5795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's just normalizing sloth and weakness. A weak population is easier to control.

    • @steves1015
      @steves1015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It started out with a noble goal - to try to allow people of any size to feel ok about themselves. This was partly as a response to the ludicrous standards of fashion houses (where being stick thin was a requirement), and also the abhorrent practices in magazines where they manipulate images and use things like the “ring of shame” to point out some famous person’s “flaws”, and perpetuate impossible beauty standards. It was meant to give normal healthy people some balance and confidence to be able to feel ok with the way they look. If someone was overweight (or underweight) they were encouraged to eat healthily and exercise appropriately. Good health was still encouraged, it was just realised that you didn’t need to be a supermodel to feel ok about yourself.
      Then it got hijacked - the meaning got skewed to mean that anyone of any size could feel good about their bodies, even if they are horribly unhealthy.

  • @galacticbananastopmotions7292
    @galacticbananastopmotions7292 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    6:54
    I’m in high school and my history teacher actually showed that same image in class lol. My schools history class (African American history) has quite literally become just an hour of listening to them talk about social justice. My teacher has both a Soviet flag and a flag with a fbi most wanted terrorist on their wall. They have said so many things that are factually and historically incorrect but I’ve just been scared to correct them because last time I did I was called a Nazi despite not only being Jewish, my family are fucking Russian Poles that were killed by both the Nazis and the Soviets. The students here are genuinely so delusional that they will willingly believe something they know isn’t true just because it both gives them a sense of moral superiority and also sticks with the status quo of the city. Man Philadelphia’s fucked💀

    • @kiroto7429
      @kiroto7429 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dam bro what school you going to 💀

    • @galacticbananastopmotions7292
      @galacticbananastopmotions7292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kiroto7429 im not gonna tell u the name of my school but its in Philly lol💀

    • @galacticbananastopmotions7292
      @galacticbananastopmotions7292 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ben-ek1fz The philly be so messed up was mostly a joke, but anways i really dont know why they called me a nazi, it made no sense and is the most disrespectfull thing you can call my people. My teacher was attempting to explain WW2 and tried to act like Poland was "liberated" by the Soviet Union. She was painting them as our saviors. I brought up how brutal soviet occupartion was, with things like the Katyn massacre, political purges, silencing of all opposition, and slavery in sibera. They responded by claiming that by being anti Soviet, that that made me a Nazi. I fucking hate the Nazis more than my classmates could ever imagine, the things the did to my family and my people, I cant even think of words to describe my emotions about it. Anyways, in my area generaly people are afraid to correct teachers because on a few instances, correcting them resulted in Fs and specificly being overly critical of their work specificaly. Correcting some of the teachers is like signing a death certificate saying you will not pass their class. Because of this we are just scared to do anythiing other than nod and agree with the teacher even when the stuff they say is inccorect. While my experience cant describe all schools in philly, the fact that this person is allowed to be a teacher while openly supporting wanted terrorists, pushing extremist ideology, and teaching incorrect facts to kids, is honestly representative of how fucked up the philly school district is.

    • @TG-to5nf
      @TG-to5nf ปีที่แล้ว

      a lot AA history is social justice movements tough.

    • @galacticbananastopmotions7292
      @galacticbananastopmotions7292 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TG-to5nf yeah, and it should be taught along with world history not instead of

  • @Taylor-mn9fv
    @Taylor-mn9fv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Oh man the redditoids are going to have a field day with this one. I personally loved this video, it basically summed up what I've been struggling to articulate about the modern "social justice" movement for a long time now. I'd always had this nasty sense that there was something off about it, it reminds me way too much of mindless religious fanaticism.

    • @LoganLS0
      @LoganLS0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Cult of Social Justice, I had trouble encapsulating the problem until I discovered that phrase

    • @urphakeandgey6308
      @urphakeandgey6308 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@LoganLS0 I just say "Orwell got it all wrong. Freedom isn't slavery. Freedom is racist."

    • @veemie8148
      @veemie8148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You liked it bc it was a man guessing about something he didn't understand in a way that discredits ppl you already didn't like.
      Don't fall for confirmation bias this hard lol.

    • @LoganLS0
      @LoganLS0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@veemie8148 no he summed it up pretty well.

    • @veemie8148
      @veemie8148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LoganLS0 He got things wrong multiple times in the intro so I think it's quite bad overall. He didn't get everything wrong ofcourse and I still enjoyed his perspective. If you care about it I've commented timestamps.

  • @kyleh9325
    @kyleh9325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    I feel strongly about the topics you covered. I wrote a LONG, multiple paragraph, comment in repose. I then realized that it turned into a really long winded rant about how obvious, solutions like nuclear and switching from coal to gas, are. I also went in hard about the dangers of perceived moral superiority and "the greater good", as well as the futility of detaching your worldview from reality in favor of cultivated narratives. After about half an hour of writing I realized I had gone way too far and who gives a shit anyway haha.
    I'll just say this... excellent video. You make great points and articulate them well. I agree.

    • @Low_commotion
      @Low_commotion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Happens to us all brother

    • @Gejmi
      @Gejmi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Kyle, my friend, you don't know how many times I've done what you just did!
      I've made an effort to be more vocal about my opinions and to go in depth with people - If the conversation jumps to a topic I feel strongly about simply because I realized that if I stay silent in what I perceive as incorrect -> People who just don't give a damn and say what they want will always best me.
      I've had people try to convince me the opposite of something I am very well versed in, and I allowed it by staying silent and thinking "I don't wanna turn the mood of the room into negative" or "This guy doesn't know what he's talking about, I'll just let him say what he wants to say and change the topic to something more neutral" or "I don't wanna bother with this idiot" etc etc, the excuses are many but ultimately - You should exercise the right to speak your mind!
      I literally started this rant provoked by your comment and then was like "Nah, who cares what I think or what I suggest". Fuck it man, That's what I think!
      P.S - Would love to hear this LONG, multiple paragraph comment you're talking about - Hope you copy pasted it on a word doc!

    • @diegothegreatthe66th
      @diegothegreatthe66th 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Switching to gas doesnt help shit though lol

    • @kyleh9325
      @kyleh9325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diegothegreatthe66th I definitely get what you're saying, and in the long run gas won't suffice. In the short term though, switching as many plants from coal to natural gas will have a large impact, because many nations (especially developing nations) rely primarily on coal to power their grid, and coal is the worst of the fossil fuels. It's also a technological leap that's far smaller, going from coal to natural gas, than say switching from natural gas to nuclear. It makes sense, in terms of fighting climate change, to switch from coal to gas and then over to nuclear. The necessary technologies are developed and proven and it would make a big difference. Again, not perfect, but I don't see any realistic and better options on the table right now. We need to continue our research and funding of green energy, but currently there is nothing on offer that wouldn't either be insufficient or economically non sensical. It's better to begin implementation of solutions that make measurable improvements in the situation, and work our way up, than to wait until green tech (hopefully) advances far enough.

    • @HungTran-gz5em
      @HungTran-gz5em 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey, rant away my man. We need to hear more well articilulated voices with arguments, not short, unsupported shoutings

  • @tito_dio926
    @tito_dio926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    The sad thing is Nietzsche basically predicted this moral collapse of western society, and manage to found a very good solution.
    But then literally everyone distorted his words and now nihilism means the opposite of what he was trying to convey.

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Even Nietzsche was a utopian in some sense with his Übermensch charting their own moral structure. Strays too close to "Do what thou wilt." Judges 21:25. People have been struggling with this for millennia. And time after time civilization returns to centralized authority whether under the word of God or under an effective "enlightened" tyrant.

    • @wolfsden6479
      @wolfsden6479 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Tounushi The bigger problem with the ubermensch is that any you claims to find the way to become one becomes a horrific monster.
      I see it as someone fully becoming their youngian shadow instead of integrating it.

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      "Literally everyone" I'd say his sister/editor distorted his words, and since that modified work is what everybody read, they started out arguing against things he didn't actually say, and which his reputation has never recovered from.

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@wolfsden6479 "Beyond good and evil," as the definition goes. But when one abandons the trappings of what is known as good and evil, how could anyone be anything else than inhuman?
      I dread the process that rationally manufactures a system of morality ex nihilo. I very much doubt it would be any different from utilitarianism. Because we sure as hell will not reach a system of morality that has no knowledge of good and evil.

    • @luxart1000
      @luxart1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boobah5643 This sounds really interesting. Anything I could read to find out more about this?

  • @incurableromantic4006
    @incurableromantic4006 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This channel has done an amazing job of explaining how radical leftism is essentially just organized mental illness.

    • @gamer1X12
      @gamer1X12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMFAO its even more brutal when you put it that way 😂

  • @philellis9465
    @philellis9465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    These SJW types have crept into every part of the workplace here in the UK. They are not very powerful, and still weak in voice, but draconian when they get hold of some temporary power. I lost my job of 20 years, sacked without notice when I was judged by these types for an incident that happened in 2016. I was judged right in the middle of this hysteria last summer. I wasn't even aware these types existed. Now I do. I got my job back after a higher authority judged my actions normal. I am still recovering from what happened, my life was changed forever and all my confidence was lost . Having put 20 years of hard service, to be judged by biased and hateful bigots. Who took no qualms in destroying a mans life for their own political goals. Well now I know they exist, and their PoV is now my nemesis. I glad Whatifalist has done this video. He is a true peoples hero.

    • @texasRoofDoctor
      @texasRoofDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maybe you should find a bog in which to sacrifice them. Not a suggestion, just an idea.

    • @TheAbcdavis
      @TheAbcdavis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lol, imagine airing out your cope like this.

    • @philellis9465
      @philellis9465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mack Oody-Patterson Hi ill still keep it vague as I don't want it aired here to be tested again. I will say that my work has standard "laws" that control what and how we do things. I was judged by a group that had no understanding of these "laws" and they by-passed them. They falsified the truth to fit their narrative. In effect a witch hunt. I had to get a higher authority who actually had a clear un-bigoted point of view to clear my name.

    • @pringleaddict5827
      @pringleaddict5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interested which role you were doing?

  • @FugaxContrapunctus
    @FugaxContrapunctus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    It must be pointed out though, this topic might be controversial, as other commenters have previously emphasized, but simply diverting attention from this reality most of us are frequently oblivious to won't fix anything.
    Even if I may disagree with some minor details in this video, that doesn't give me the right to cancel an entire channel outright (which could technically be done given how tremendously convoluted TH-cam's revisionistic algorithm is). After all, to quote Voltaire, "I may disagree with your opinion, however I will defend to my death your right to express it". Such a genious philospher would probably be rather disenchanted with today's wave of collective psychosis and irrationality in Western societies, though probably concerned about our civilization not surviving such a profoundly generalized crisis.

    • @ryanward10
      @ryanward10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ironically, Voltaire's only remaining supporters are considered 'fringe right' today.

    • @meneither3834
      @meneither3834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Fun fact, Voltaire never said that. It was Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who coined the sentence. She was writing a biography of Voltaire and thought it was a sentence that reflected a large part of Voltaire's attitude and thoughts during the Revolution.

    • @padinspi11
      @padinspi11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. There is just on detail: voltaire Never said that. I think it came from some random neo nazi

    • @ThatGuyBrian
      @ThatGuyBrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@padinspi11 The neo-nazi quote misattributed to Voltaire was actually "If you want to know who controls you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize." - Kevin Storm

    • @padinspi11
      @padinspi11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatGuyBrian yeah you're right. I think someone explained it already but the quote was used later on to explain his ideas

  • @James-712
    @James-712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I feel like I'm living in a crazy world with nothing I can do to stop it. I hope your right about social justice not existing in 20 years

    • @rigelb9025
      @rigelb9025 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But what just adds to the crazy factor is the pendulum analogy. It would seem like all of society is this giant pendulum that just keeps on swinging violently from one extreme to the other, with very little force to strike & maintain a more balanced & cohesive world.

    • @youtubegpt-usertester
      @youtubegpt-usertester ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The comment expresses a feeling of helplessness and frustration with the current state of the world and the social justice movement. The individual is expressing a hope that the predictions made by the host of the video, Whatifalthist, are accurate and that the social justice movement will not exist in 20 years. It is important to note that while the individual may be frustrated with certain aspects of the movement, it is not productive to hope for its complete demise as it addresses important issues such as inequality and social justice. Instead, it would be more productive to engage in constructive dialogue and work towards finding solutions to the issues that the movement addresses. Additionally, it is important to recognize that social issues and movements are complex and multifaceted, and should not be reduced to a binary "existing or not existing" framework.

    • @rigelb9025
      @rigelb9025 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@youtubegpt-usertester In other words : Time, energy & resources are best spent in devising solutions to actual problems, rather than in creating & fomenting trendy social movements.

    • @James-712
      @James-712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@youtubegpt-usertester bro what was the point of that essay

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@James-712 I think its a bot account testing out how GPT works

  • @patientlywatching7775
    @patientlywatching7775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is an intelligent well-balanced take on things. I've been following very closely for the past few years and I appreciate this kind of straightforwardness. 👍❤

  • @yj_chew
    @yj_chew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Doesn't "Birthing People" sounds extremely offensive to mothers?
    Sounds very reducing to use that term to describe women by reducing women to solely their reproductive abilities

    • @johnseppethe2nd2
      @johnseppethe2nd2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @liambuchan4162
      @liambuchan4162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Doesn't matter, at long at it pleases the woke mob (who are predominantly not mothers)

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The thing with that is the Left reduces womanhood to the utility of childbirth (which it decries the Right of doing), while others hold childbirth as a capability which only women can inherently have.
      Defining woman has gone, thanks to the Left, from "adult human female" to "human sexual dimorphic form where healthy specimens normally reach the ability to gestate and birth children via sexual reproduction upon reaching physical maturity."
      The expected ability to give birth has to be included now, because the trans issue pursued by the Left has diluted womanhood into a skinsuit entirely dependent on social behavior, mode of dress and lipservice to outward physical traits. At best their definition of woman goes skin deep, and even then it can be only pursued with aggressive medical intervention with knives and outside hormonal injections.

    • @melbaker9495
      @melbaker9495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This insanity to so as not to offend the literal half a dozen trans men in the world who have given birth. The vast majority of F to M trans people have their uterous removed as part of their transition, but for that tiny number who otherwise identify as male, but who go thru a pregnancy we now must say birthing people.

    • @lollllolll.
      @lollllolll. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      These people end up being offensive by trying to not be offensive.
      I came across a leftist discord server which was talking about a youtube prank video where a guy was showing card tricks to black people.
      "It's so fun to watch their reactions" "Haha look how happy they are"
      This discord server was filled with people who treated black people like literal zoo animals, remember these were anti racists too, ironic.

  • @maxfinazzo2443
    @maxfinazzo2443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    When social justice is replaced, the way I see it, we have 2 likely paths to take.
    Truth and Justice: where we understand what they did wrong in terms of dragging down everyone in society in order to dismantle hierarchy. Then we can reestablish a more polite, understanding and individualist society that is less political and more concerned with personal and local community goals.
    The other option is Blind Vengeance: where now it's the other teams turn to tread. And they already have a group of people to blame. If you disagree with them then they'll call you an sjw and ruin your life "because that's what they did!"
    Remember that scapegoating is bad and Justice and forgiveness is better than violence and vengeance.

    • @maxfinazzo2443
      @maxfinazzo2443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To summarize my point, when social justice blows up in our face we can rebuild our nation with the values of freedom and liberty for all...
      Or we can do a substantial amount of trolling.

    • @ironmind258
      @ironmind258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxfinazzo2443 I think you are right, I reckon the second option will happen across the west at different times. So I think the best thing we can actually do is limit the harm one side can do to the other so they don't then use those same methods back in extreme vengeance and furious anger and spite because once the chance is there if they have been maimed, dishonoured, outcasted or overthrown they will bring the same fire back but double.

    • @ericjohnson7234
      @ericjohnson7234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what about the people who care for neither?

  • @dophhead2711
    @dophhead2711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    About excommunication from their own group, I find it quite funny that someone like callmecarson was cancelled for being 19 talking to a 16 year old but James charles has been leaked talking to multiple underage boy’s but hasn’t had the same backlash

    • @highqualityimage8776
      @highqualityimage8776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did James Charles ever do that, can you like give an example at least.

    • @ThatControlUser
      @ThatControlUser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highqualityimage8776 you are so lazy to not even search for something on youtube itself? there are videos documenting the entire drama

    • @co-bruh1423
      @co-bruh1423 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because of his identities. He was clearly a victim of society and had no agency in what he did. XD

    • @pearlpoint9838
      @pearlpoint9838 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highqualityimage8776 I don’t watch James Charles and consider his content as brain dead stupid as the toy unboxing channels are, but I have definitely heard of the many allegations of his that he’s been talking with underage boys and I’m sorry my man but I just don’t buy that with the many different accusations I’ve heard regarding him and underage boys that every single one of them are false.

    • @Evie842
      @Evie842 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He has had the same backlash though...

  • @isatubarrie9145
    @isatubarrie9145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    19:40 "the most dangerous people are those who think themselves to be good because they have no protection against their own evil", wow that's frighteningly accurate!

  • @ln5321
    @ln5321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    God it's so refreshing to see a video that accurately talks about what happened. Also, I'm in Philadelphia and can confirm we spent weeks hearing small explosions throughout the night as ATMs were blown open. That was the least of our concerns, as the neighbors on my block all got together to park our cars on the street and take shifts throughout the nights standing guard with guns at the entrances to the street, because the mayor and police commissioner had given the order to police not to do anything to help. After the first of what would be many nights of this, the mayor got on TV to denounce...the "vigilantes" who defended their homes. No words of denunciation for the attackers, though.

    • @Baraodojaguary
      @Baraodojaguary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thats crazy man sorry that you had to pass through this i m from Brazil but i never been in such position even tough things like this are common here, but i'm wealthy for Brazilians

    • @Baraodojaguary
      @Baraodojaguary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also here in brazil when those lootings and violent protest occurs normally the midia say what it really happened

    • @ln5321
      @ln5321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Baraodojaguary Glad you're doing well. Stay safe!

    • @goldenbrigain7031
      @goldenbrigain7031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you live under a dictator. I recommend the state motto of Virginia: "Sic Semper Tyrannis" In essence, that bastard or bitch has something coming to him.

  • @jacksonhodge8142
    @jacksonhodge8142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I was always bothered by the way that social justice removes class language from the Marxist framework. This can reconcile the capitalist elite within a “leftest” worldview as long as they have the right stated goals.

  • @Maxislithium
    @Maxislithium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    As a leftist, I would like to say THANK YOU for giving an honest critique of Social Justice as a social movement and political philosophy.
    While not a marxist, I fairmly see class as a serious problem both moral and structureal to our social fabric today. Finer details can be debated until the sun burns out.
    Something I have noticed among those, most committed to social justice in my circles is a trend to self select for their own moral bias most strongly. rather then interogate a decenting opinions positions, and why they disagree, they use the same leaps of logic used by senitor macarthy about leftists in the 1950's. For the past 20+ years, I have watched the movement around me move from how to Solve structureal problems to who what to Blame for those problems. To often convinced that if they got rid of the "bad persons" the real, identified problems would solve themselves.

    • @sumkindacheeto
      @sumkindacheeto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm no "self proclaimed christian" but the marxists should read the book of Ecclesiastes to understand the Real basis of their theory.

    • @PA-1000
      @PA-1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sumkindacheeto huh?

    • @sumkindacheeto
      @sumkindacheeto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read it!
      It all will make sense later.

    • @johnl.7754
      @johnl.7754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that class is also a problem that the left & right either ignore or actively support (by directing different ethnic groups to fight each other).

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you aren't down with Social Justice, you're right wing. Welcome home, brother.