I have noticed the amount of sign that shows up changes each year with what food is available and even more so with the availability of water. I still have bucks showing on those same dates but I don’t believe they spend as much time in the area because of the lack of food and/or water. I sit in each spot regardless of conditions. With enough spots, you will be near one or the other eventually anyway.
Started hunting last season on public I watched these videos religiously and can happily say I tagged 2 large mature bucks 200lbs each in southern Louisiana
@@jonah-n8l because I don’t have enough money to afford leasing, my friends have property but I want to go hunt when I want to hunt. Louisiana has a lot of public access, and a lot of nice size deer if your willing to make the drive.
One the most informative podcast on TH-cam coming from a guy who hunts in south east VA, prince george, Sussex, Southampton, I’ve got a particular spot that I’ve hunted for about 4 years now, it’s a piece of woods where mostly does live and younger bucks but the third to fourth week of October is when I see my biggest buck on one of the first does that comes into estrus, like clock work, if you have a nice mature buck in the general area your hunting, even if he doesn’t live in that certain block of timber, he knows where them does are and when they come into estrus, he’ll most likely be on the first doe that’s going to come into estrus, and if he’s not with her he’s close by waiting for it to happen, I haven’t been able to capitalize on a big one yet but I’ve had multiple opportunities in this same spot on a specific group of does
It’s also watching fawns drop and counting back 200 and hunting your doe groups and knowing their estrous Windows and that is most likely going to coincide with sign with right before scrapes dry up and bucks are on doe. The week leading up to your doe ground popping off is when our sign is the best and multiple bucks per day in same scrapes. In our area of Arkansas, Oct 22-25 is when it gets hype for day bucks and scrapes on fire as they run their rut routes gettimg those first doe popping off. We hunt the end of the week and 2nd wkend of muzzle each year hard core and always have great hunts. You can def time your local herd and hunt three spikes. End of Oct , mid nov and 2nd best window is the first to 2nd week of December for mature roamers.
I was listening on the way to the woods this morning. I went to pull an SD camera I put out last June to let soak. Ended up getting daylight pictures of 4 different mature bucks from July - February of this year. All 4 spent 4-5 days in a row in front of the camera at different times from September - December. The biggest one was right behind a doe in one of the pics. I wrote down a log of these bucks with dates , times and moon phase to plan my hunts in that spot for this year. Hopefully I’ll have a follow up story to share sometime this season !
youre really just learning the estrous timing for each doe group, not that certain bucks move to areas on certain dates. The does estrous dates are genetic and passed along from generation to generation so they will always be consistent for that area as long as the whole area doesnt get wiped out by EHD or CWD, then you have to start your data collection over
I agree with everything you guys mention, but in addition to backdating the pictures you have observe the day of the week! I have many year over year spreadsheets where I have narrowed down a 4/5 day stretch to hunt only to truly see that that week stretch can be optimized by hunting that stretch on Tuesday-Thursday. (Dates and days of the week change year over year.) Just some information for those looking at Pictures, check the day of the week in addition to the buck in the area timing!
To answer the question about chasing the rut on one piece of property, I have had one specific date range on a 1k acre plot, and had up to three separate specific date ranges on a 3k acre plot. Generally from what I’ve found looking back to places from years past, there is one per 1k acres on average. Now, that being said, one spot may also have multiple date ranges weeks apart based on how many does are in the area so it may mean hunting it, following dates around the property, then returning to the same tree during a different rut cycle. I have multiple years footage of specific bucks coming during an early date on a spot then different bucks multiple years on different dates. Think of it like a teenage boy. How many clubs you pass to go to a club to try to pick up girls? They got their preferences too and all bucks are different 😂
I actually learned these tactics long before trail cameras were invented. If you have any information where bucks were killed or seen in the past, be there those dates. In that case, you won’t even need to hang cameras 👍🏻
@thecedarridgechronicles awesome, I have had some luck in the past on private property just paying attention to the days I seen the most activity the previous years. I probably should have listened further in to the podcast, just trying to here more stories and input from others that do not run cameras, obviously they are useful tools, and I can afford as many as I want, just prefer to not use them, thanks for the suggestion
@@jonah-n8l this strategy applies to all the time between when he transitions from his summer time early bow season pattern. Keep an open mind when you think “only applies during the rut”. A buck has 2 general patterns. Summer and winter. Once he makes that transition early season, every decision he makes from then until he transitions back late season will be based on breeding. This is a giant window of opportunity where he will be in specific spots most of deer season as he moves from doe to doe. Anywhere you have ever seen, harvested, or know of a good buck being harvested, those specific dates in those specific spots are good every year based on this movement. It is based on travel patterns, so you are removing the necessity to get lucky enough to catch him actually chasing a doe. Hope this helps!
@@jonah-n8l look at it this way, “the rut” is all of the time the buck is not in his summertime pattern, which is basically the same from late season all the way to early bow season. Once he makes that transition, this strategy applies which is most of deer season.
Chased a bully buck last year couldn’t get it done. No i know exactly where I’m sitting and when. Love y’all’s podcast! Getting on more deer than ever listening to yall
As far as the Rut is concerned, as long as the habitat remains good, there's certainly a pattern of time lines for increased odds, certain foods that drop in key time frames & concentrate doe's during Rut etc, but for the guy that gets limited days to Hunt? Do your Hunting pre season, find out where He Beds, and what trails He uses for what winds, figure out how to get close. 50--60 yards & during season see which of your ambush sites fit the wind for Your days off, and get aggressive. No Balls No Bucks. Knowing how to kill mature Bucks, is knowing how to put your hand in the bed of the buck you just killed while its still warm. I love to study how they choose to live in a kind of environmental fortress & the chess game is figuring out how to sneak in & kill the king. You'll fail more then you succeed, slapped in the face 20 times, but you'll be taking 21 Home because there's lessons learned with the losses.
I have noticed the amount of sign that shows up changes each year with what food is available and even more so with the availability of water. I still have bucks showing on those same dates but I don’t believe they spend as much time in the area because of the lack of food and/or water. I sit in each spot regardless of conditions. With enough spots, you will be near one or the other eventually anyway.
Started hunting last season on public I watched these videos religiously and can happily say I tagged 2 large mature bucks 200lbs each in southern Louisiana
Can I ask y u started hunting public?
@@jonah-n8l because I don’t have enough money to afford leasing, my friends have property but I want to go hunt when I want to hunt. Louisiana has a lot of public access, and a lot of nice size deer if your willing to make the drive.
Don Higgins been doing this for years. He talks about this all the time.
One the most informative podcast on TH-cam coming from a guy who hunts in south east VA, prince george, Sussex, Southampton, I’ve got a particular spot that I’ve hunted for about 4 years now, it’s a piece of woods where mostly does live and younger bucks but the third to fourth week of October is when I see my biggest buck on one of the first does that comes into estrus, like clock work, if you have a nice mature buck in the general area your hunting, even if he doesn’t live in that certain block of timber, he knows where them does are and when they come into estrus, he’ll most likely be on the first doe that’s going to come into estrus, and if he’s not with her he’s close by waiting for it to happen, I haven’t been able to capitalize on a big one yet but I’ve had multiple opportunities in this same spot on a specific group of does
It’s also watching fawns drop and counting back 200 and hunting your doe groups and knowing their estrous Windows and that is most likely going to coincide with sign with right before scrapes dry up and bucks are on doe. The week leading up to your doe ground popping off is when our sign is the best and multiple bucks per day in same scrapes. In our area of Arkansas, Oct 22-25 is when it gets hype for day bucks and scrapes on fire as they run their rut routes gettimg those first doe popping off. We hunt the end of the week and 2nd wkend of muzzle each year hard core and always have great hunts. You can def time your local herd and hunt three spikes. End of Oct , mid nov and 2nd best window is the first to 2nd week of December for mature roamers.
I was listening on the way to the woods this morning. I went to pull an SD camera I put out last June to let soak. Ended up getting daylight pictures of 4 different mature bucks from July - February of this year. All 4 spent 4-5 days in a row in front of the camera at different times from September - December. The biggest one was right behind a doe in one of the pics. I wrote down a log of these bucks with dates , times and moon phase to plan my hunts in that spot for this year. Hopefully I’ll have a follow up story to share sometime this season !
youre really just learning the estrous timing for each doe group, not that certain bucks move to areas on certain dates. The does estrous dates are genetic and passed along from generation to generation so they will always be consistent for that area as long as the whole area doesnt get wiped out by EHD or CWD, then you have to start your data collection over
I agree with everything you guys mention, but in addition to backdating the pictures you have observe the day of the week! I have many year over year spreadsheets where I have narrowed down a 4/5 day stretch to hunt only to truly see that that week stretch can be optimized by hunting that stretch on Tuesday-Thursday. (Dates and days of the week change year over year.) Just some information for those looking at Pictures, check the day of the week in addition to the buck in the area timing!
It checks out for me the last two years. I killed two days apart and 750yds from one spot to the other.
Love the info. very nice
Thank you for watching!
Definitely gonna be implementing this on Flordia Public land
We expect to have a lot of listener success stories from that episode!
To answer the question about chasing the rut on one piece of property, I have had one specific date range on a 1k acre plot, and had up to three separate specific date ranges on a 3k acre plot. Generally from what I’ve found looking back to places from years past, there is one per 1k acres on average. Now, that being said, one spot may also have multiple date ranges weeks apart based on how many does are in the area so it may mean hunting it, following dates around the property, then returning to the same tree during a different rut cycle. I have multiple years footage of specific bucks coming during an early date on a spot then different bucks multiple years on different dates. Think of it like a teenage boy. How many clubs you pass to go to a club to try to pick up girls? They got their preferences too and all bucks are different 😂
Loving this information
New to Alabama, but I’ve hunted Missouri all my life. Still trying to figure out where to hunt here.
This podcast will be very helpful for you no doubt! you have a lot of public land as options this fall
I really like yalls content and guests, curious if yal had any specific podcasts with people that rely on trail cameras less
I actually learned these tactics long before trail cameras were invented. If you have any information where bucks were killed or seen in the past, be there those dates. In that case, you won’t even need to hang cameras 👍🏻
@thecedarridgechronicles awesome, I have had some luck in the past on private property just paying attention to the days I seen the most activity the previous years. I probably should have listened further in to the podcast, just trying to here more stories and input from others that do not run cameras, obviously they are useful tools, and I can afford as many as I want, just prefer to not use them, thanks for the suggestion
@@thecedarridgechroniclesthey sayin it only implys during the rut tho
@@jonah-n8l this strategy applies to all the time between when he transitions from his summer time early bow season pattern. Keep an open mind when you think “only applies during the rut”. A buck has 2 general patterns. Summer and winter. Once he makes that transition early season, every decision he makes from then until he transitions back late season will be based on breeding. This is a giant window of opportunity where he will be in specific spots most of deer season as he moves from doe to doe. Anywhere you have ever seen, harvested, or know of a good buck being harvested, those specific dates in those specific spots are good every year based on this movement. It is based on travel patterns, so you are removing the necessity to get lucky enough to catch him actually chasing a doe. Hope this helps!
@@jonah-n8l look at it this way, “the rut” is all of the time the buck is not in his summertime pattern, which is basically the same from late season all the way to early bow season. Once he makes that transition, this strategy applies which is most of deer season.
Chased a bully buck last year couldn’t get it done. No i know exactly where I’m sitting and when. Love y’all’s podcast! Getting on more deer than ever listening to yall
There it is! A buck is a buck but change with age.
As far as the Rut is concerned, as long as the habitat remains good, there's certainly a pattern of time lines for increased odds, certain foods that drop in key time frames & concentrate doe's during Rut etc, but for the guy that gets limited days to Hunt? Do your Hunting pre season, find out where He Beds, and what trails He uses for what winds, figure out how to get close. 50--60 yards & during season see which of your ambush sites fit the wind for Your days off, and get aggressive. No Balls No Bucks. Knowing how to kill mature Bucks, is knowing how to put your hand in the bed of the buck you just killed while its still warm. I love to study how they choose to live in a kind of environmental fortress & the chess game is figuring out how to sneak in & kill the king. You'll fail more then you succeed, slapped in the face 20 times, but you'll be taking 21 Home because there's lessons learned with the losses.
Be the first doe!
Wth is a patrion
Don’t come back to Arkansas with out me!