Matt, I love the way you often say that the fly may not be 'show quality' but is fishable and going into your fly box. This attitude motivates me far more than the 'perfectionists' Tyers.
Fished the Rio Grand from Crede Co to the divide in the late 70’s. This fly was very big in that area. Tied it “nymph “ style-no wing lead wire under body-layed hackle back. Caught 100s fish with it. GREAT memories- thanks
That's outstanding to hear Brad! I love hearing true stories about some of the forgotten flies I tie for the channel. I appreciate the note my friend. :-)
Good Morning Sir Matt, 😊 you never cease to amaze me, all these great looking flies. I'm still doing wooly worms and all different sizes. I love those flies. Well a big PS just a little over two weeks before I'm in Alexandria, I will be there on April 11th. I'll send you an email and let you know my plans. Great job this morning Sir. Many thanks again as always.
Outstanding Edward! I may be at the farm for my kid's spring break that week but I won't know for sure for a few more days. Do drop me an email though!
Very cool looking fly. Love the gold tippets, very nice looking. Can certainly change up body material and/or color. Thx MATT and have a fabulous weekend. 😀
My family comes from just west of South Park, where O'Connor fished the South Platte. I have fished the King my entire fly fishing life, and I love it. I also tie many dozen every year in my own variation. Thanks for this video!
Like the pattern. Used it once in a reservoir called Little Camas here in Idaho. The fish loved it. Due to low water conditions that reservoir is just a puddle last few years. Hope you have a great weekend. Warmest regards.
The bow tie is a superb, excellent choice. The history and fly tying are top drawers. I enjoy the fly and get a big kick from your fishing trips. Thanks, Matt.
Well thank you Howard! I'm hoping to get some more fishing footage soon but my last two trips were mostly non-eventful. One thorough skunking, and the other a couple dinks not even worth the footage. Maybe in April. :-)
This video had me hunting through my fly pattern books. Here’s what I found: Poul Jorgensen’s “Modern Trout Flies” has both a dry fly and wet fly version. Dick Stewart’s “Universal Fly Tying Guide” has the pattern. Dick Surette’s “Trout and Salmon Fly Index” has a hairwing version. They all look somewhat different.
I learned to tie very similar fly at a boy scout camp in 1975. We used three peacock herls for the body instead of chenille, and wrapped through the middle of the wing to split it so some went to each side. The instructor yelled at me because I used too much hair for the wing - he wanted it sparse. I've always kept a few in my box. They make a decent mid-summer search pattern for trout, and grayling hit them well throughout summer. I don't remember what name he called it, but Rio Grande King doesn't ring a bell so he probably called it something else.
Nice fly Matt. I like what Luke Tallant suggested using peacock herl for body maybe a grizzly hackle, but would it be the same fly? I dunno, but who really cares if it catches fish. Keep the good stuff coming buddy.
You're right Dave! Lots of people have said they tied this fly but with a peacock herl body. I'd say it's the same thing. Maybe with two changes, the body and grizzly hackle, it's probably a different fly. But still, same profile, same action on the water. Probably still a fish catcher. :-)
Hey Matt, Joyce and I have River for the next week. Weather here was 85° and beautiful. Heading to SC with River and hope to fish in the salt creeks, will see how that goes. I get some shots in my knees middle of April. It will last really for about two months. Hopefully maybe I can head your way. You never know but that would be fun and good to see ya. Hope all is going well with the new job. You are always looking good for your videos 👍
Absolutely Jim! I had to drive down to NC for a funeral last weekend (been swamped here lately). But I'm still wanting to take a week off as soon as possible and get some serious fishing in. I'll let you know as soon as I have some dates figured out!
Hi Matt! I watched this a little after you posted it. Then I spent some time searching for different versions of it. I thought Fly Tyer had maybe 2 or 3 anniversary issues, their 40th (?). One featuring famous patterns tied by the originators and submitted to the magazine's first issues. Al Ritt was the author and he tied most of the flies as close as he could to the originals. I seem to remember the Rio Grande King being one of the flies. I think it was tied as a wet and the wing was skunk, and there was a mix up in the articles., it was tied by the wife of a husband wife team. I looked for my issue and searched Fly Tyer website but couldn't find either, just a story about O'Conner by "Bugs" Logan. Oh well, I thought maybe you might have come across something about this. Take care.
Good morning Matt. ☕️time. Enjoyed the video. I like these older flies that are almost forgotten. Seems like there’s lots of them. Between the forgotten, the almost forgotten and the mostly forgotten a person could fill a book or a lot of fly boxes 😀. Did you get out to the Gunpowder? Take care and have a great weekend Matt.
Absolutely John and I do too! I broke out Schmookler and Sils' "Forgotten Flies" tonight and tied one of Charles De Feo's truly forgotten patterns for Tuesday. An easy one, but a classic looking wet fly. :-)
Interesting & useful choice. No reason this won’t work in the East. It has a good caddis or small stone profile, plus you can play with adjusting colors & material. As several suggested, peacock herl would be a great choice for the body, & brown bucktail or elk under the white calftail wing might appeal to the fish while maintaining visibility for the angler.
Great tips Bob! Doesn't the California Coachman look very similar, but it's got the peacock herl? That sounds right but without looking it up I could be mistaken. Thanks for the note. :-)
Oh man, I had a store last year but it wasn't making any money so I closed it down. Send me an email and I'll let you know what I've still got. Mostly t-shirts, hats and a few sweatshirts. Plus some mugs and such. matt@savageflies.com (Head's up though, I haven't been very good at getting to that email. Lots of questions and comments there and I just get buried with these comments and my regular job!)
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Matt, I love the way you often say that the fly may not be 'show quality' but is fishable and going into your fly box. This attitude motivates me far more than the 'perfectionists' Tyers.
That would look cool with a peacock body too...
Absolutely right Randy! Thanks for the note. :-)
Fished the Rio Grand from Crede Co to the divide in the late 70’s. This fly was very big in that area. Tied it “nymph “ style-no wing lead wire under body-layed hackle back. Caught 100s fish with it.
GREAT memories- thanks
That's outstanding to hear Brad! I love hearing true stories about some of the forgotten flies I tie for the channel. I appreciate the note my friend. :-)
Another nice one Matt, thank you for sharing, have a blessed day my friend.
I definitely see a grasshopper in this one! Thanks for another almost forgotten pattern. Have a great weekend!
Appreciate it Tom! Thanks for the note. :-)
Good Morning Sir Matt, 😊 you never cease to amaze me, all these great looking flies. I'm still doing wooly worms and all different sizes. I love those flies. Well a big PS just a little over two weeks before I'm in Alexandria, I will be there on April 11th. I'll send you an email and let you know my plans. Great job this morning Sir. Many thanks again as always.
Outstanding Edward! I may be at the farm for my kid's spring break that week but I won't know for sure for a few more days. Do drop me an email though!
I love the golden pheasant tippets for the tail. Great one,Matt.
Appreciate it Chad. Thanks for the note. :-)
Nice tie Matt! Peacock for the body works excellent. Have a great weekend. 😀
Good looking fly, Enjoy the weekend Matt.
Appreciate it Rusty! Thanks for the note. :-)
Very cool looking fly. Love the gold tippets, very nice looking. Can certainly change up body material and/or color. Thx MATT and have a fabulous weekend. 😀
Appreciate it Clyde! Thanks for the note. :-)
I really dig this dry fly. Going to get some done up for my box. Thank you Matt, have a great weekend.
Appreciate it Marshall! Thanks for the note. :-)
My family comes from just west of South Park, where O'Connor fished the South Platte. I have fished the King my entire fly fishing life, and I love it. I also tie many dozen every year in my own variation. Thanks for this video!
Very cool to hear Brett! Thanks for the note my friend. :-)
Thanks Matt for another low riding dry fly, Keep up the interesting patterns.
Appreciate it Lee! Thanks for the note. :-)
Always great historic flies. Thanks for this classic.
Appreciate it Ed! Thanks for the note. :-)
Like the pattern. Used it once in a reservoir called Little Camas here in Idaho. The fish loved it. Due to low water conditions that reservoir is just a puddle last few years. Hope you have a great weekend. Warmest regards.
Bummer Mark, but thanks for the report! I'd love to get back to Idaho soon. :-)
Nice job Matt have a good day my friend!
Appreciate it David! Thanks for the note. :-)
My 3rd favorite dry fly. I use it all the time. Its a great pattern. Thanks for showing it off.
Cool fly Matt, really enjoyed the back story
Appreciate it! Thanks for the note. :-)
One of my all-time favorite dry flies. Thank you for featuring it, Matt.
You're most welcome! Thanks for the note. :-)
A cool looking fly, and should be a good fish catcher. Thanks Matt for sharing and have a wonderful weekend.
Appreciate it Layton! Thanks for the note. :-)
Excellent looking fly Matt. Well done as always.
Appreciate it! Thanks for the note. :-)
Cool beans Matt. Have a great weekend my friend.
Appreciate it Sidney! Thanks for the note. :-)
The bow tie is a superb, excellent choice. The history and fly tying are top drawers. I enjoy the fly and get a big kick from your fishing trips. Thanks, Matt.
Well thank you Howard! I'm hoping to get some more fishing footage soon but my last two trips were mostly non-eventful. One thorough skunking, and the other a couple dinks not even worth the footage. Maybe in April. :-)
nice work Matt looking forward to the next one
Appreciate it Michael! I just finished Tuesday's fly... a really historic and forgotten one. Thanks for the note. :-)
Thanks for another Great Video, Like the suit & Bow Tie 👍
Appreciate it John, and thanks for the note my friend. :-)
This video had me hunting through my fly pattern books. Here’s what I found: Poul Jorgensen’s “Modern Trout Flies” has both a dry fly and wet fly version. Dick Stewart’s “Universal Fly Tying Guide” has the pattern. Dick Surette’s “Trout and Salmon Fly Index” has a hairwing version. They all look somewhat different.
Ahhh... great to know! Of those three books, Stewart's is the only one I have. I'll have to check it out!
Gidday Matt. Nice history and great looking fly. Thanks.
Appreciate it Ken. Thanks for the note. :-)
Nice historic fly pattern matt tks
Appreciate it Burt! Thanks for the note. :-)
I learned to tie very similar fly at a boy scout camp in 1975. We used three peacock herls for the body instead of chenille, and wrapped through the middle of the wing to split it so some went to each side. The instructor yelled at me because I used too much hair for the wing - he wanted it sparse. I've always kept a few in my box. They make a decent mid-summer search pattern for trout, and grayling hit them well throughout summer. I don't remember what name he called it, but Rio Grande King doesn't ring a bell so he probably called it something else.
Love all of the flies and history... keep it up!
Thanks Sune! I've got a real historic one for Tuesday. :-)
Also was a “Queen” version Front half of body was white
Nice fly Matt. I like what Luke Tallant suggested using peacock herl for body maybe a grizzly hackle, but would it be the same fly? I dunno, but who really cares if it catches fish. Keep the good stuff coming buddy.
You're right Dave! Lots of people have said they tied this fly but with a peacock herl body. I'd say it's the same thing. Maybe with two changes, the body and grizzly hackle, it's probably a different fly. But still, same profile, same action on the water. Probably still a fish catcher. :-)
I've tied a lot of these, but used peacock herl. Caught quite a few with this pattern. Thank you for the video.
Cool to hear Luke! Thanks for the note. :-)
Thank you Matt. Well done as usual.
Appreciate it Mark! Thanks for the note. :-)
I’ve been fishing it very successfully here in Colorado for the past year.
Love the channel, all of the flies and history. I especially love the bow ties.
Well thank you Josh! I appreciate the kind words my friend. I've got a real historic pattern for Tuesday's fly. :-)
@@SavageFlies looking forward to it.
one more from the history books nice matt thanks see ya joe.
Appreciate it Joe. Thanks for the note. :-)
Thanks matt
The Rio Grande King! Properly titled! This is nice Matt! Dope vid as usual!
Appreciate it Tony! Thanks for the note. :-)
Another great fly Matt. Thank you for the hard work you put into this channel. Have a great weekend Sir.
Well thank you for these kind words Jeffrey!
I think Ive seen it in Eric Leisers pattern book. It is a neat fly - simple with lots of contrast
I didn't check that one. I'll have to go back and look. Thanks for the note!
Matt this is one of my favorite flies to make and used alot on the great lakes ( Superior). I like to use long shank steelhead hooks.
Hey Matt,
Joyce and I have River for the next week. Weather here was 85° and beautiful. Heading to SC with River and hope to fish in the salt creeks, will see how that goes. I get some shots in my knees middle of April. It will last really for about two months. Hopefully maybe I can head your way. You never know but that would be fun and good to see ya. Hope all is going well with the new job. You are always looking good for your videos 👍
Absolutely Jim! I had to drive down to NC for a funeral last weekend (been swamped here lately). But I'm still wanting to take a week off as soon as possible and get some serious fishing in. I'll let you know as soon as I have some dates figured out!
@@SavageFlies that sounds amazing, you should really think about a podcast, you are connected well and folks you enjoy being with you👍
Hi Matt! I watched this a little after you posted it. Then I spent some time searching for different versions of it. I thought Fly Tyer had maybe 2 or 3 anniversary issues, their 40th (?). One featuring famous patterns tied by the originators and submitted to the magazine's first issues. Al Ritt was the author and he tied most of the flies as close as he could to the originals. I seem to remember the Rio Grande King being one of the flies. I think it was tied as a wet and the wing was skunk, and there was a mix up in the articles., it was tied by the wife of a husband wife team. I looked for my issue and searched Fly Tyer website but couldn't find either, just a story about O'Conner by "Bugs" Logan.
Oh well, I thought maybe you might have come across something about this. Take care.
Joe- quick response now, am driving down to NC at the moment. Look for spring 2018 FT. I haven't dug mine out but I did hear it was in that one. 👍
@@SavageFlies Thanks!
Forgot to mention, I tie a variation of this pattern using peacock for the body with fine wire reverse wrap over the peacock. Deadly...
Great video. Thanks
Good morning Matt. ☕️time. Enjoyed the video. I like these older flies that are almost forgotten. Seems like there’s lots of them. Between the forgotten, the almost forgotten and the mostly forgotten a person could fill a book or a lot of fly boxes 😀. Did you get out to the Gunpowder? Take care and have a great weekend Matt.
Absolutely John and I do too! I broke out Schmookler and Sils' "Forgotten Flies" tonight and tied one of Charles De Feo's truly forgotten patterns for Tuesday. An easy one, but a classic looking wet fly. :-)
Interesting & useful choice. No reason this won’t work in the East. It has a good caddis or small stone profile, plus you can play with adjusting colors & material. As several suggested, peacock herl would be a great choice for the body, & brown bucktail or elk under the white calftail wing might appeal to the fish while maintaining visibility for the angler.
Great tips Bob! Doesn't the California Coachman look very similar, but it's got the peacock herl? That sounds right but without looking it up I could be mistaken. Thanks for the note. :-)
Nope, I just looked it up. It's not even close. :-)
Another great tie matt looks great p.s. how do we buy your apparel I would like to buy some thanks
Oh man, I had a store last year but it wasn't making any money so I closed it down. Send me an email and I'll let you know what I've still got. Mostly t-shirts, hats and a few sweatshirts. Plus some mugs and such. matt@savageflies.com (Head's up though, I haven't been very good at getting to that email. Lots of questions and comments there and I just get buried with these comments and my regular job!)
This has been my favorite fly for over forty years. However, I prefer using moose mane for the tail.
Cool
maybe some wraps of foam to help with flotation