Ah HA! Ok folks, heads up, this plan oblique tool has a...nuance... When you give the plan oblique output a file name, make sure it is less than 13 characters long. Or else it will fail.
yeah! AIX is nice because it maintains the layers. you can export from Pro as a PDF and bring it into Illustrator but it's not as tidy: lots of nested clipping paths to clean up.
Hey John, thanks so much for taking the time to put this together. I was hoping sometime in the future you could put together a video of some of the routine edits that you utilize Illustrator for? I have no experience using it, but would love to start. Thanks again for sharing
That is brilliant, as always. I was secretly hoping you'd do a video about the plan oblique. The mist layer is pure genius. I like the way you use simple tricks to lure the eye. You remind me a lot of Michel Gondry in that way.
This is great! I used the plan oblique on a state and it slightly distorted the DEM of the state from the clipped raster from the living atlas. What would you suggest to make a neat line for the oblique DEM? Using illustrator?
thanks! if I had a DEM of bathymetry i would do the same steps but probably change the color gradients to something watery. i like dark royal blue to bright cyan gradients when it comes to water depth.
Great video. What about adding a river layer, are the steps the same to match the rivers to the surface? So that the inclination angle is the same as the inclination angle of DEM?
@@GašperMužina Good question, this is a big challenge. If the river layer is vector, there is no way to vertically distort it the same as the elevation raster. I haven’t figured out this challenge
If I want to overlay a line feature on this the oblique nature of the DEM causes problems, which I knew would be an issue. Any ideas on how I could overlay features and have them at least look correct? I'm making a trail map that would be really cool with this as the baselayer! Thanks, supper cool cartography!
ufortunately, the oblique warping applied to the elevation image makes overlaying other layers difficult-to-impossible. if you want to make a map with additional layers, consider a conventional tilted-3D approach, described here: th-cam.com/video/Eecq5D5Y7_E/w-d-xo.html
I'm a newbie as well, but plan to incorporate aspects of this into my semester project (currently in its infancy). If I turn-out anything of value, I'll be sure to share and give ya some credit!
Hey John, amazing video once again. Maybe a stupid question, but when I run the "plan oblique", the result is nothing, it doesn't create a new DEM file. Is it possible that the script needs Image analyst extension too? Can't find it anywhere though. Cant think of another reason it doenst create a new file haha! Thanks again for the video, very inspiring!
the first bit of troubleshooting i would do is ensuring that your DEM is projected. i think i may have run into this initially, too. try using the "reproject" tool, or changing the map's projection then right-clicking the image and exporting it. I like UTM for this, but you'll have to look up which UTM number your DEM's area falls within. Or you could pick any projection you want. but leaving it in regular WGS 84 will give you issues. i should have mentioned this in the video! sorry for the inconvenience, Sietse!
@@skywalker271 hmm that is odd. if either of you are still experiencing this, send me an email and we can try to figure it out. john underscore nelson at esri.
I tried again today, and succeeded. I believe the reason is because my licenses were removed when I updated ArcGIS recently. I went online and re-licensed them and now the plan oblique works!
Hi John! Thank you for this tutorial. I am a beginner on Arcgis Pro. I would like to know how to get the "terrain mapping" in the toolboxes. As in the tutorial, I right clicked and clicked on "Add Toolbox", but then I can't add the "terrain mapping" in order to access the "Oblique Map". Thanks
Hi, John. Thanks for sharing amzing works. U are the best! John, I'm having problems when I insert the DEM into the Plan Oblique. This message appears (Data needs to be in a Projected Coordinate System). But the coordinates are correct in DEM. What's happen, can you help me?
ah, ok. consider running the "reproject" tool on the DEM and choose a projected coordinate system. alternatively, set the map projection to a projected coordinate system, then right-click the DEM and export it (ensuring to use the map's coordinate system in the export).
Could there ever be a Share Map to an Adobe Illustrator-like program called Affinity Designer? So in addition to an .aix there could be an .adx export format which also works in layers with vector and raster, and allows for blend modes, filters, etc. Is there a place to ask esri for such a thing?
Hello. Amazing effect. However, I have a problem. I tried to repeat all the steps with the same raster layer. Unfortunately my Plain Oblique layer comes out more flattened compared to your layer. I used the same angle of inclination as your layer. After many tries, I tried to create a Plain Oblique layer from this first slightly flattened layer (Plain Oblique). It turned out that the layer formed identical to yours. Did you also do that? I am asking for an answer.
glad you are trying it out and got some results. thanks for your question! my demonstration area is already quite mountainous, so the effect will be an exaggeration of that. if your area is less mountainous then you'll have to experiment with an "inclination angle" (lower angle makes the result more bumpy) that works best for you.
@@JohnNelsonMaps Thank you for your answer. However, I still don't understand why your layer is different from my result layer (with the same parameters and in the same DEM terrain !!!). At first glance, it is difficult to notice this difference, but it seems to me that your resulting layer was processed twice by this algorithm. Only then is my resulting layer identical to your layer.
@@animalspl8016 oh, i didn't realize you were using the same DEM. it may have to do with your projection. i forget what I projected the DEM to, but it may have an impact on the amount of vertical exaggeration.
yes, absolutely! you can do almost everything i do here in Pro (draw a rectangle under the map in a layout to give it a 3D geologic slice appearance, etc). except for the grain effect on the map -that's just an Illustrator filter. a tricky Pro-only part would be making the fake shadows that I drew look blurry, but i do walk through that sort of thing fully in Pro in this series: th-cam.com/play/PLPjPOZQjCWEm8W7zdPKNtbseObgchGbBj.html
ahhh. i’m sad, this tool doesn’t work on larger rasters. i mosaiced a bunch together and so the tool failed. dl you know of another way to get this effect?
i've tried it on pretty large rasters and it worked. it took a while to process though, and the resulting file size was about 10x the original for some reason.
oh no! no, it should take a few minutes. also ensure that the output file name is short. sometimes i've seen long names cause issues. sorry for the inconvenience! hope it works out.
I was trying this out last night but the plan oblique tool is accepting DEM data in projected coordinate systems only. none that i have downloaded from NASA SRTM work, any suggestions?
@@kevinnoel2880 if you re-project the DEM to a projected coordinate system that should do it. Set the map to a projection, then export the DEM (right click).
Ah HA! Ok folks, heads up, this plan oblique tool has a...nuance... When you give the plan oblique output a file name, make sure it is less than 13 characters long. Or else it will fail.
John, you must get this a lot, but you are the Bob Ross of maps. This was awesome.
wow, thank you Jonathan! that's a great honor.
@12:36 That's to good! I also going to start using the valley mist technique. Thanks J!
Thanks! It’s a fun and useful technique
This is awesome! I'm so glad you can put maps straight into Illustrator like that now. Thanks for this.
yeah! AIX is nice because it maintains the layers. you can export from Pro as a PDF and bring it into Illustrator but it's not as tidy: lots of nested clipping paths to clean up.
This is a Masterclass. Thank you John.
wow, thanks Duane! coincidentally, watching Masterclass commercials is the reason i got enough gumption to start making these videos.
A work of art. Reminds me of hand drawn maps of the past, especially nostalgic with a reference to QBert! Nice!
thanks Danny! that is high praise, i am a big fan of hand-drawn terrains.
Hey John, thanks so much for taking the time to put this together. I was hoping sometime in the future you could put together a video of some of the routine edits that you utilize Illustrator for? I have no experience using it, but would love to start. Thanks again for sharing
thanks for the idea, Eric!
subscribed when you added the mist layer. Well done
@@3runjosh yes! I’ll try to earn it
This was my Fantastic Friday professional development while I ate lunch. Thank you!!
hey alright! glad i could accompany your lunch! though i would call this professional mischief.
Wow what a great way to use GIS to create something so beautiful, kudo!!
thanks Bruno!
This looks incredible! Thanks for sharing John.
非常感谢您的观看！
i just came across this. it looks amazing! will do one myself soon. thank you for sharing.
great! you might also like this how-to, it's much more straightforward too. th-cam.com/video/kVsj6Z7UuLY/w-d-xo.html
Awesome...Thank you John.
thanks for watching! i bet the Sata Fe area is loaded with opportunities for glorious oblique mapping.
So fan of your work. 🥺
Thanks!
That is brilliant, as always. I was secretly hoping you'd do a video about the plan oblique. The mist layer is pure genius. I like the way you use simple tricks to lure the eye. You remind me a lot of Michel Gondry in that way.
hey thanks Emmanuel!
Michel Gondry is magnificent, and I am honored at the comparison. :)
This is great! I used the plan oblique on a state and it slightly distorted the DEM of the state from the clipped raster from the living atlas. What would you suggest to make a neat line for the oblique DEM? Using illustrator?
cool, glad you tried it! you can use whatever you're most comfortable with for a neatline. you can do it in a Pro layout or Illustrator.
I really enjoyed thank you so much
great, thanks!
Awesome video (once again). What would you change in case of having water bodies and depth? Anything else besides the color ramp?
thanks! if I had a DEM of bathymetry i would do the same steps but probably change the color gradients to something watery. i like dark royal blue to bright cyan gradients when it comes to water depth.
Great video. What about adding a river layer, are the steps the same to match the rivers to the surface? So that the inclination angle is the same as the inclination angle of DEM?
@@GašperMužina Good question, this is a big challenge. If the river layer is vector, there is no way to vertically distort it the same as the elevation raster. I haven’t figured out this challenge
If I want to overlay a line feature on this the oblique nature of the DEM causes problems, which I knew would be an issue. Any ideas on how I could overlay features and have them at least look correct? I'm making a trail map that would be really cool with this as the baselayer! Thanks, supper cool cartography!
ufortunately, the oblique warping applied to the elevation image makes overlaying other layers difficult-to-impossible. if you want to make a map with additional layers, consider a conventional tilted-3D approach, described here: th-cam.com/video/Eecq5D5Y7_E/w-d-xo.html
I'm a newbie as well, but plan to incorporate aspects of this into my semester project (currently in its infancy). If I turn-out anything of value, I'll be sure to share and give ya some credit!
No credit necessary but I hope to see what you make!
Deliciously textured my friend. Do you feel like 9 layers was enough?
number 9...number 9...number 9...number 9... th-cam.com/video/SNdcFPjGsm8/w-d-xo.html
Awesome! , Mr John do you know who can i apply the Layer Blender in Effects bar?
You should see it in the video, in the "appearance" tab. if you don't see it maybe you are using an old version of Pro?
@@JohnNelsonMaps ops! that's right , i'll get the version now .. thankfull 😻🤝
Hey John, amazing video once again. Maybe a stupid question, but when I run the "plan oblique", the result is nothing, it doesn't create a new DEM file. Is it possible that the script needs Image analyst extension too? Can't find it anywhere though. Cant think of another reason it doenst create a new file haha! Thanks again for the video, very inspiring!
the first bit of troubleshooting i would do is ensuring that your DEM is projected. i think i may have run into this initially, too. try using the "reproject" tool, or changing the map's projection then right-clicking the image and exporting it. I like UTM for this, but you'll have to look up which UTM number your DEM's area falls within. Or you could pick any projection you want. but leaving it in regular WGS 84 will give you issues.
i should have mentioned this in the video! sorry for the inconvenience, Sietse!
I have the same problem, I've tried reprojecting it to two different Projected Coordinate systems.
@@skywalker271 hmm that is odd. if either of you are still experiencing this, send me an email and we can try to figure it out. john underscore nelson at esri.
I tried again today, and succeeded. I believe the reason is because my licenses were removed when I updated ArcGIS recently. I went online and re-licensed them and now the plan oblique works!
@@skywalker271 oh good!
Excellent! John
thanks Souvik!
I am working with some county data and the Plan Oblique says I've reached the maximum size allowed. How do I know what the maximum size is?
hmmm shoot, sorry I don't know!
Hi John! Thank you for this tutorial. I am a beginner on Arcgis Pro. I would like to know how to get the "terrain mapping" in the toolboxes. As in the tutorial, I right clicked and clicked on "Add Toolbox", but then I can't add the "terrain mapping" in order to access the "Oblique Map". Thanks
did you download the terrain tools first? www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=4b2ea7c5f87d476a8849c804b81667aa
@@JohnNelsonMaps I hadn't actually downloaded it. Thank you very much. Now it works!
@@francisehemba9482 great! have fun Francis!
Is there any program that can generate procedural hillshading? For use in fictitious worlds.
Gosh I don’t know about procedural work. Sorry!
Hi, John. Thanks for sharing amzing works. U are the best! John, I'm having problems when I insert the DEM into the Plan Oblique. This message appears (Data needs to be in a Projected Coordinate System). But the coordinates are correct in DEM. What's happen, can you help me?
ah, ok. consider running the "reproject" tool on the DEM and choose a projected coordinate system.
alternatively, set the map projection to a projected coordinate system, then right-click the DEM and export it (ensuring to use the map's coordinate system in the export).
@@JohnNelsonMaps Thank you a lot, John!
Lovely!
thank you!
Amazing!
thanks!
Could there ever be a Share Map to an Adobe Illustrator-like program called Affinity Designer? So in addition to an .aix there could be an .adx export format which also works in layers with vector and raster, and allows for blend modes, filters, etc. Is there a place to ask esri for such a thing?
yes, that would rule! you can post this as an idea to the product team, here: community.esri.com/t5/custom/page/page-id/arcgis-ideas
Hello. Amazing effect. However, I have a problem. I tried to repeat all the steps with the same raster layer. Unfortunately my Plain Oblique layer comes out more flattened compared to your layer. I used the same angle of inclination as your layer. After many tries, I tried to create a Plain Oblique layer from this first slightly flattened layer (Plain Oblique). It turned out that the layer formed identical to yours. Did you also do that? I am asking for an answer.
glad you are trying it out and got some results. thanks for your question! my demonstration area is already quite mountainous, so the effect will be an exaggeration of that. if your area is less mountainous then you'll have to experiment with an "inclination angle" (lower angle makes the result more bumpy) that works best for you.
@@JohnNelsonMaps Thank you for your answer. However, I still don't understand why your layer is different from my result layer (with the same parameters and in the same DEM terrain !!!). At first glance, it is difficult to notice this difference, but it seems to me that your resulting layer was processed twice by this algorithm. Only then is my resulting layer identical to your layer.
@@animalspl8016 oh, i didn't realize you were using the same DEM. it may have to do with your projection. i forget what I projected the DEM to, but it may have an impact on the amount of vertical exaggeration.
@@JohnNelsonMaps Thank you for your answer :)
hi john, how to blend the layers if i use arcgis pro 2.5?
you need version 2.9 or newer to use blend modes.
@@JohnNelsonMaps thanks john
Thank's
have fun!
I wonder you have the summit of creativity or patience? or both?
Ha! Thanks. But what if it’s neither?
Any clue as to how to generate the Plan Oblique layer in QGIS?
@@ChristopherCampbell sorry, I don’t
Excellent! Could you make the entire Map in ArcGIS Pro. Don't have Illustrator?
yes, absolutely! you can do almost everything i do here in Pro (draw a rectangle under the map in a layout to give it a 3D geologic slice appearance, etc). except for the grain effect on the map -that's just an Illustrator filter. a tricky Pro-only part would be making the fake shadows that I drew look blurry, but i do walk through that sort of thing fully in Pro in this series: th-cam.com/play/PLPjPOZQjCWEm8W7zdPKNtbseObgchGbBj.html
ahhh. i’m sad, this tool doesn’t work on larger rasters. i mosaiced a bunch together and so the tool failed. dl you know of another way to get this effect?
i've tried it on pretty large rasters and it worked. it took a while to process though, and the resulting file size was about 10x the original for some reason.
Can you still do all of this still without Illustrator? :)
yes. also check out this video: th-cam.com/video/kVsj6Z7UuLY/w-d-xo.html
my Plan Oblique tool has been running for like....10 hours. is this normal?
oh no! no, it should take a few minutes. also ensure that the output file name is short. sometimes i've seen long names cause issues. sorry for the inconvenience! hope it works out.
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I was trying this out last night but the plan oblique tool is accepting DEM data in projected coordinate systems only. none that i have downloaded from NASA SRTM work, any suggestions?
@@kevinnoel2880 if you re-project the DEM to a projected coordinate system that should do it. Set the map to a projection, then export the DEM (right click).