Olympus EM1 III vs Panasonic G9: Video King
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we battle. The Olympus EM1 III vs Panasonic G9. Who has the better stabilization? Panasonic with dual lens stabilization, or Olympus with IBIS plus digital? Does Olympus phase detection autofocus crush the contrast detection of the G9? Is Panasonic leagues ahead with it's image quality in 10 bit?
We'll test the Leica 12-60mm f2.8-4 on the G9 vs the Leica 12mm f1.4 @2.8 on the Olympus EM1iii. Then we'll see how stabilization behaves on both with the Leica 8-18mm f2.8-4.
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I'm trying to decide between these, but I'm baffled as to you preferring the G9 image quality? The Olympus shows deeper colours, black is black, shadows shade, sharper.. the G9 looks equalised... I mean the Olympus well yeah if your face is shaded you need to light it up, like people have been doing since forever in photography or film, it's unnatural that your shaded face is bright.
Not to get too technical, but the Olympus makes you appear sweaty and desperate whilst the Panasonic paints you as an anime elf.
The best in depth comparison of two cameras. Hats off to you sir.
Its anime elf vs Rudolph the red nosed reindeer.
Panasonic shows him like he is a blood donor - like every day and his kidney is failing, slightly.
Olympus shows him like he forgot to breathe out for a day or two.
Olympus wins just work on the shadows.
If the Olympus has the Panasonic's dynamic range you'd have an almost perfect camera. But you're very good at finding every camera's fatal flaw. Despite the dark shadows, I like the Olympus better overall. But then, I'm a photographer.
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I'm loving the Olympus Irish Alcoholic Color Scheme... Their color science is truly amazing.
Either you look drunk or the camera drunk (not being able to focus lock properly)
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Yes, a difficult camera for alcoholics...
hahahaha
Just fix your in camera profiles and you’ll be good on the Oly
I don't laugh easily. I love humor, but usually I do little more than smile. But this line:
"At zero it's unusable. Looks like Kodak just had sex with a Canon executive and they didn't clean up after."
I'm still wiping the coffee spray off of my monitor.
Yep that one had me chuckling.
If ever a line begged for a meeting...
So you like children's humor.
I feel like there's a blurry super 8 movie somewhere of that, shot on one of my Canon supe 8 cams with Ektachrome cartridge..
I’ve waited my whole life for this video. Even though the E-M1 mk iii only came out this year.
Hey, for the Olympus OMD EM1 MIII: before you shoot, go to menu G, find the Auto WB, make sure the Keep Warm Color is off, and then use Centre Weighted exposure mode.
Warm was already off. I vlog in rule of 3rds, center is for scrubs :)
@@cameraconspiracies Then try menu E3 Exposure Shift, adjust the exposure in whatever metering mode you like to your taste 😉
@@pangderek9507 I was thinking the same. As dark as the sky is staying, a +1 probably still won't clip the sky.
@@RobShootPhotos I think so too. Oly are really precious about their highlights.
music at the 4:56 is so good that I actually forgot what I'm watching at this point
and what about 9:26 ? :) it's so funny, that he laughs at his own lines :D
Zsolt Bottka 9:26 was crazy
Oh man that olympus is soo much better in every way, i prefer the image compare to the G9! It looks like a very good camera!
Hi from Auckland New Zealand. I really appreciate your videos man.
On setting for the G9. There is a newer setting in v2.0 firmware. It is in the setting menu for AE/AF. There is a "near" and "far" option. If set to near it will give priority to the main subject and objects closer to the lens. Almost never goes to the background. Might help with focus hunting of background. Usually works for me.
em1 III i think has a much more pleasing image the G9 looks really washed out for my old man eyes
Because it's ungraded with saturation and contrast all the way down.
Camera Conspiracies yeah I heard you say that I’m just commenting that the “out of box “ setting looks good
The Olympus is way too saturated.
@@cameraconspiracies can't they be matched, settings wise? Otherwise it is an odd comparison
@@cameraconspiracies so you tweaked the G9 profile settings but on the Oly only sharpness -1? No wonder they look very different contrast wise...
I've found the same issue with image quality comparing the EM1mk2 with the G9 in 8-bit, whether 4K or 1080p. The problem is Olympus's standard picture modes are just massively, horribly overcooked. If you dial back the contrast and sharpening settings to minimum it helps a bit, but really, it seems the only way to get nice footage out of the Olympus is to shoot in Log or Flat and grade in post, whereas the G9 produces lovely IQ in Natural straight out of camera.
Continuous AF on the Olympus is head and shoulders above the G9 though. If only Panasonic would give in and use PDAF like *everyone else*, they would have the perfect hybrid camera.
I like the muted mode on Olympus though, I find the colors much more balanced than natural mode.
Reading through the comments, you can tell who owns what brand. "If you tweak this and twurdle that....". Both cameras a great and there is much you can do to further produce the images that "you" want.
Me? Pana G9 for a long time. But I like both cameras.
Sound is noticeably better on the Em1-M3
I have no use for it, I don't even have a camera, but the autofocus test was fantastic. You're hilarious !
Corona lockdown has you starting to look like Nick Cage in Raising Arizona...
It looks like the Olympus exposure is not tied to the focus spot whereas the Panasonic exposure is tied to the focus spot.
Would love to see this test repeated with Oly exposure cranked up and/or auto spot metered. The G9 was blowing highlights to get your face exposed so nicely. ☀️
If I had to choose, I would prefer the Olympus to the G9 for the better phase-detect af, stability, and natural colour straight out of camera - less grading work in post. The G9 makes you look like a ghost who just had a bath in talcum powder, and it will give you fewer keeper-clips due to focus wobble and warpy-stabe. Olympus 'could' upgrade their codecs with firmware, but the G9 will never get better AF.
It feels like 4 years ago. Everybody had the GH4 and dreamed about a Panasonic with the stabilization like Olympus. But nobody believed this will be possible because Panasonic was so proud about the lens stabilization. Then the GX85 came out and everything changed, there where rumors about a GH5 with IBIS and about a GH5 with a larger multi aspect sensor. Big time for camera speculations.
It's like history repeating. This time it's the dream about a Panasonic with AF like Olympus or Sony. I think sooner or later all manufacturers will get IBIS, 10bit or more, 4k and more, reliable AF. So let's hope.
Maybe the GH6!
Canon is coming with ibis
The stabilization wobble on G9 would be a deal breaker for me personally. E-M1.3 had no discernible wobble. That olympus stabilization is really something.
Lovin your songs youve been incorporating in your vids lately keep them going bro its hilarious
In reality Casey is a psychedelic music producer trying to secretly influence our minds with this channel.
Genius way to get people to listen.
Try the portrait profile on the Olympus. It is quite pleasing and similar to Panasonics natural profile.
I like the beat during the autofocus test; good job!
Really interesting how when you walked toward the panasonic it focus tracked you perfectly and the olympus had you blurry until you got close then locked on suddenly. Also the hesitation to want to lock on at the start of that test was curious. Once it decided to, bang, done, but deciding to took a while. Weird.
On the em1-3 you can change how fast the AF works. It can track slow or extremely fast depending on the setting.
@@Lamentor219 You can change that on the G9 and most other cameras too.
Much prefer the colour on the Olympus.
kasey music production had the guy in the back at 5:15 like what this guys about to do Curious and intense lol CINEMATIC!
Olympus! Let this man's face come out from the shadows. That f1.4 2mm lens looks so nice on both cameras though!
The Olympus definitely shows off the histamine and inflammation response of plant foods 😁.
Nobody wants to hear about your religion.🙏🏻
@@joeltunnah Really? Nobody? Interesting how many thought different. lol
@@abyss9543 why don’t humans synthesize their own vitamin c like carnivores do?
@@joeltunnah Sure sounds like even you are interested now. Funny that. "Nobody is interested..." lol
Don't need to when we're eating our species appropriate diet. There is more than enough C in meat, marrow and organs. This is why through eons of evolution we have turned off the ability to synthesize vit C. The evolutionary process eliminates unnecessary functions. In other words, evolution didn't realize there would be dumbasses out there modifying bitter fruits into present day ultra sweet, fructose/glucose laden garbage. Yes Joel... all modern grains, fruits and vegetables are man made. As in Not Natural. Funny that...
@@abyss9543 you have no evidence that humans had the ability to synthesize vit C once, then lost it through “evolution”. More religious fairy tales? Even wolves eat vegetables and fruit. For some wolf groups it makes up the majority of their diet. My dog was an omnivore, and lived to 16.5. Why didn’t he die young from all the grain and vegetable carbohydrates in his diet?
Excellent music halfway. Overall good as usual thankyou :-()
The song at the end is fantastic. If it were 2002 you would've been signed to Def Jux
No, no he wouldn't. Fun song sure, but c'mon now, Casey might cry if faced with El-P.
P.S. A huge wrench in the testing you point out is the camera's LCD display.
A resolve could be to use and external monitor just to set the exposure and image settings on each, to match them as closely as possible. Then put away the monitor and do the walk about tests.
Failing access to a portable monitor, matching histograms as close as possible helps.
ohhh man battle of the most underrated cameras of all time. I'm biased but I'd always go olympus. I traded in my g9, for an EM1 II, which is just as capable as the III for what you're doing. I honestly think the Olympus can right all the wrongs you find with image quality, it's just a nightmare to get it right from the menus. I actually prefer the out of camera picture from Oly, and everything it does just seems to work. G9 and basically all Lumix M43 cameras are awesome though, so no hate from me here
For my use, Olympus makes a lot more sense. That's because I already have a GH5 and I want a second camera that has what the GH5 doesn't have: Good AF in video and more portability with good stabilization. In addition, Olympus is a better camera for photos with several innovations. The G9 seems to be a good option for those who want to spend less and want a single camera. Greetings from the Black Forest
On the g9 firmware 2.0 you can prioritize autofocus to close subjects or far subjects.
"[AF-ON: Near Shift] and [AF-ON: Far Shift] functions have been added.
[AF-ON: Near Shift] preferably focuses on a subject nearby while [AF-ON: Far Shift] preferably focuses on a subject far away."
Maybe this will help you.
this autofocus test is just EPIC!
The Olympus image quality looks way better to me, it just protecting its highlights more. If you want it brighter there are easy ways to make it do that.
Is there a camera better in the whole universe than the Panasonic Lumix G9?
Vm Vm for me no.
If it wasn't for the 30m recording limit I'd have bought it, instead I got the GH5 for my channel. Panasonic are awesome.
Vm Vm if you never have used an AF camera before
Not in mine universe.
The G9 is the camera I wanted my G2 to be.
580g 8-bit (72.5 g/b) vs 658g 10-bit (65.8 g/b :-)
Wow, so the G9 has a better Gram to Bit ratio! Great comparison! Can't wait for 12 bit then the camera will weigh even less!
@@winddealer1 Z cam E2 757g 12 bit (63.8 g/b ;-)
Dude, that rap was really enjoyable. I'd love to hear more!
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The AF on the Oly is better. The exposure could be from being different lenses, the aperture markings are sometimes rather generalized. Is there a face detect exposure on the Oly? Cycle through the different metering modes and see if you can find one that exposes better.
Maybe you can get close to flat profile with adjustable sharpening by using "muted" profile, +7 shadows, -7 highlights. Then dial in -2 sharpening.
I know you went with natural on both cameras, but the shadows on the Olympus were absolutely crushed most of the time. Maybe add some exp. comp. and raise shadows (via the curves adjustment) on the Olympus so it looks closer to the Panny boy?
Nice showcase
Autofucs on the G9 doesn't seem bad at all.
Doesn't the Olympus have a Flat mode with low to no sharpening?
The G9 looks a bit lifeless and sometimes too bright on the skin, the Olympus the complete opposite - almost like a phone with bokeh.
"The mystical unicorn riding in the mountain never found a way home... why? It's so scary in the woods, it's dark, there's insects looking at me... why are they doing that? It's scary... they have too many legs... it's a mountain, a scary dark mountain full of clouds... Why? Why is there so many insects looking at my face??? I just wanna lay down and sleep, travel to the top someday, but not today, I'm gonna walk back home in the city... I'm a city-boy, city-boy for life homie! I'm just a city cowboy, renegade, without a grenade, I carry a sword around, nobody knows why... I'm a dark horse lord who can't be found, without a name, and I don't sound insane at all..."
Agreed, 0% insane
"...am I still important..."
LoL
Yeah, the warpy snit on G9 with 8-18 is terrible. The EM1 looks good.
Problems with exposure? Oly settings E3 (I think so) +1/2 ev. Done. It is also recommended for photography (portraits). This is not a completely fair comparison. Panasonic lenses look worse on the Olympus, and Olympus lenses look worse on the Panasonic. For example, 17mm 1.2 looks a bit flat on g9, colors are a bit washed out, afc is ok, but on Olympus it is the best lens ever. Skin tones in Olympus looks great. I will add that afc works a bit better with native Olympus lenses (in M1). Interestingly, this applies mainly to video mode, not photo. 25 1.7 works great in photo, but not so good in video, especially compared to oly 25m or 30mm sigma. Olympus lenses also work worse on panasonic in video, but in photo mode they are fine,with som exceptions. It's vary from lens to lens. In general, for more serious work with video g9 is a better choice. Without a doubt. 4k 60fps, 10 bit. What more to say. For daily use m1 miii. The natural profile looks great, afc and ibis are fantastic. For photographers M1 miii. I had g9 and I also tested m1miii. Now I have m1mii and m1x. I don't care much about video.
I'm still shooting a g7, but shopping to upgrade to the g85 or g9 for the in body stabilization. Both cameras shown in your video have distinct advantages and disadvantages, but I prefer the panasonic, because it seems to do video much better. I actually wish that I could marry the Sony Autofocus to the panasonic. I have given camcorders some consideration but the versatility of the mirrorless keeps drawing me back. I have invested in a smallrig frame and a number of their accessories for my g7 and will outfit whichever camera I purchas in a similar fashion.
Just as a followup, I did in-fact purchas the G95, and I love that camera. The two reasons I chose it over the G9 are 1. Size and weight, and 2. No recording time limit, save the size of your recording media. This was after carefully weighing the advantages of the G9, including the G9's dual SD card slots, which for others may be a compelling reason to choose that camera. For others who have a frequent need to shoot in low light, a camera with an APS-C or full size camera may be a better choice. But for the type of filming that I do, the G95 and the G9 are both fully adequate, as is in most instances, the G7.
That AF test was trippy AF
My man took the autofocus game to the next level on this one 4:55
Good comparison, just one of many differences of course. The Olympus appears to have more saturation. I notice the red on your face and blue sky.
If you want the Olympus dark/midtones to look as washed out as the Panasonic, adjust the curves in camera using the curves button on the top right.
that beat near the end slaps tho
I could tell the different cameras just by the phase detection vs the DFD difference. Just subtle jitters here and there.
That's a real life camera filming comparison! Great Work! The Autofocus of the Panasonic is more capeable than I thought, much more pleaasing than the Olympus hard shifting and quite accurate, but I love the contrast and colors of the Oympus. And the amazing Image stabilazition. It looks like cinema quality to me! Too dark faces in shade situations are a common perception problem when taking pictures or filming. That's why there is so good and cheap accessory to fill in light in the face shadows. Or accept the problem and just crank up the ev to get it to Panasonic level brightness. Your talking is a perfect match to the test and gives nice thoughts about many more topics. I think I found the perfect blog!
I have the G9 and EM1.2, and I have never seen video like that coming off my Oly. Both great cameras IMO. Olympus AF is definitely better.
I actually like the Olympus colours and exposure much better. There is at least colour, Panasonic looks overexposed and somewhat colour-drained.
He mentioned he turned sharpness contrast all the way down for g9
The Olympus stabilization won out today. Also the Panny footage of you looked like you need iron supplements. Great segment tho, loved the slo mo part with the birds!
Pretty trippy. But now the million-dollar question: were you or weren't you sunburned, the E-M1 III thought so, but the G9 didn't agree...
Damn the olympus video from today looks much better. Shows how disastrous standard profiles can make one look haha (actually havent finishes this video yet) edit: oh damn that was neutral? Sheesh OLYMPUS what arebyou doing lol. It’s hyping all the blood in your face like you have sunburn and the whole image background etc not natural
i think the olympus colors look much better out of camera
This is an illustration of "out of camera" setting choices by the manufacturers. Oly should give that a bit more thought.
Panny looks overexposed and Oly underexposed.
yeah even my GX85 overexposes. i always dial down half a stop of exposure compensation
Man, the G9 would be a dream if only it didn't wobble around like a drunken sailer going through a storm because Panasonic couldn't be bothered to include phase detection..
The EM1 was better overall. If you desaturate the color a bit and tone down the sharpening in post, it would be interesting to see compared to how the Panasonic was shot (it was flatter). Nice comparison video overall.
6:47, am I wrong, or doesn’t the G9 have a AF Near feature already?
Yes
You're wrong. GH5s has it.
@@cameraconspiracies G9 got it too in the 2.0 firmware
G9 has it for sure
Camera Conspiracies double check
I prefer the Panasonic realistic colours and image. However, I am sure you can configure the Olympus however you like it. You just need to dive into those menus a bit deeper.
That song at 9:22 ... you could review Norwegian cheese cloth on a hot air balloon exclusively and I'd still watch the channel
I actually love what you said about the focus limiter. I know the olympus 60mm macro lets you switch a dial to set where the focus is within intervals... Would help a ton if you could tell the algorithm "aight if you get a finding that is out of my interval. Do not swap to that swallow flying 3 kilometers away. please"
It is obvious that you don't have that much experience with Olympus menus. Take some time to play with the Olympus video menus to get familiar with them. The learning curve is stepper but it rewards you with more flexibility once you learn your way around. I'm a photographer but own both Panasonic and Olympus bodies and I can get similar exposures from both bodies after adjusting the settings for each mode. I can't suggest video settings for the Oly because I hardly use video (not my thing). Love your videos BTW!
Problem with both of them is there's no AF primes wider than 24mm. So you're stuck with no toneh "f2.8" heavy wide zooms.
Welcome to my world as Micro Four Thirds only shooter. That's why I have an E-M1 II and a G85.
Sounds like a good problem to have.🙂
@@joeltunnah Although it's good to have a B cam, I'd rather have one camera that did it all.
@@danieldougan269 I don’t know, buying gear is fun, it keeps me entertained. I just bought a G95 on sale, enjoying the change from my EM5.3 and film cameras.
Man I really love those olympus colors
Ufff... you got me there. I am ex Olympus user and always thought that Panasonic has better video quality so I picked wrong. To my surprise I did not like Panasonic footage. Sure, you can see too much of the skin texture but somehow it's more pleasing to see more details then less...
The Oly looks like it has a polarized filter on the lens, and the saturation cranked up. Also, the Oly refuses to overexpose the sky, which is why it wont properly expose your face, weird.
It’s not weird at all actually, and it’s much better to pull up shadows in post than try to make blown out sky look decent. A professional shoot would put supplemental lighting on the talent.
Panasonic is like video game enemy AI. You turn your side to the enemy and the camera acts like you just teleported "WHERE DID HE GO. IS HE IN THIS TREE? TRY AND FOCUS THERE! NO?! OKAY JUST FOCUS BREATHE LIKE CRAZY UNTIL WE FIND HIM"
G9 won it for me today, but that stabilization on the EM1 is muuuuuch better.
In my uneducated opinion, I would say that the Oly has a 1 gen older sensor to the G9 with less sensitivity. The G9 is bumping up against its processor, overwhelming it with data frequently which keeps giving you delays in tasks. The autofocus algorithm isn't up to the task still and needs a rewrite. Overall, the G9 wins by a landslide.
For me, Olympus looks better. Maybe im sick or something but i choose Oly
You should apply basic color correction, so both cameras have the same level of saturation and luminance, this make no sense.
A photographer would tell you to put a little LED fill light on top of the olympus, but then you disregard photographers.
Bottom line here is that except for AF the G9 is far more competent as a video camera. Vlogging, Is lean Olympus for out of camera colors and AF. In photo, especially moving subjects Olympus all day every day. And I’ve used both extensively.
Great Video
That rap track was sick!
I like the contrasty image of the Olympus.
Definitely the best part of the video was the song... hilarious!
All I want is the perfect camera
that epic walk to focus hahaha
so badass yet so funny xD
Ever heard about picture profiles or metering modes?
the olympus rudolph the red nosed reindeer camer i can set focal limits on my fuji or was that my sony a77ii
The song during autofocus was the best song that ever existed. I want your life
Could it be possible that you have another metering mode on the olympus and therfore some scenes are so dark?
You create sick music brother
Well there is one major difference between cameras ;) Price :) For 1 Oly you can get 2 G9s or G9 and some nice lenses ;)
How did you do the dolly zoom without touching the camera? 😱
Where can I get your music? I like the videos you do, that's why I'm here, but I dig the tunes a lot.
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